1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Tuesday, the seventh 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: of February in London. Coming up today, a growing tragedy. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: More than four thousand people have died after earthquakes hit Turkey. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: In Syria, the French Connection BNP Parry Bear reports results 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: as higher interest rates lift European banks back on the table. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: The Fed's Bostic says rates could now be headed for 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: a higher peak. The UK must get on an economic 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: war footing brick Coyn is coming, and the British vault 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: rescuer may need a recharge. Those other stories we're looking 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: at in today's papers, and I'm leanne Gern's plus pretty incoherent. 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Danny Blanche Blower pulls no punches in his assessment of 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Bank of England rate setters. That's all straight ahead. On 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak Europe on DAB Digital Radio, London, Bloomberg eleven 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: three oh New York, Bloomberg Washington, d C, Bloomberg one 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties, San Francisco, Syrus 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: XM Channel one nineteen and around the world on Bloomberg Radio, 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: dot Com and var the Bloomberg Business Set. Good Morning, 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Carroll and I'm Caroline Hike. Here are the 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: stories that we're following today. Rescue teams are continuing the 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: search for survivors from toppled buildings in Turkey and neighboring Syria. 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: At least four thousand people have died after an earthquake 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: with a magnitude of seven points seven hit the border 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: between the countries. Mark Locock is the u n's former 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: under Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs. He's concerned about help 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: reaching affected parts of Syria. Millions who have fled the 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: fighting during the civil war away from the Syrian military 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: authorities are basically encamped in very rudimentary conditions, which may 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: be the place is worth worst affected in Syria by 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: deserve play. That was the former UN under Secretary General 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: for Humanitarian Affairs, Mark Locock. Rescue teams from overseas have 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: begun arriving in Turkey today as millions are without power 32 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: or heat in freezing temperatures. Turkeys President redp tibe Urduan 33 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: says his country is facing the strongest disaster in a century. 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: And now let's get two results from France's BMP Parry 35 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: bus So they've reported a fix sales and trading revenue 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: for the fourth quarter that beat average analysts estimates. BMP 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: parry Bus fourth quarter thick sales and trading revenue coming 38 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: in at one point zero nine billion euros, well above 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: the estimated eight hundred and fifty five million, and they're 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: also planning a five billion euro buy back for twenty three, 41 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: raising the five targets. BNP Paribus fourth quarter net income 42 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: is two point one five billion euros. That there is 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: a miss on the estimated two point to nine billion. 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Just to go to the latest results next from soft Bank, 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: their third quarter vision funds loss is six hundred and 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: sixty into one billion year. That was versus a profit 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: of fifty point four billion year on years. That is 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: the latest that we're getting from soft Bank. Now. Atlanta 49 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Fed President Raphael Bostic has told Bloomberg that the terminal 50 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: rates could be headed higher. The Atlanta Fed president doesn't 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: vote on policy this year and says that the base 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: case is still for rates to peak at five point 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: one percent. Meanwhile, the US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen says 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: that JANUS read hot jobs reports shows the US economy 55 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: is still on track for a soft landing. Here's what 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: she's told ABC is good morning America. You don't have 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: a recession when you have five hundred thousand jobs and 58 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: the lowest unemployment rate in more than fifty years. So 59 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: what I see is a path in which inflation is 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: declining significantly and the economy is remaining strong. That was 61 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: the former U. S. Tregury Secretary and former FED Chief 62 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen. Bloomberg will be speaking at to the current 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: Fed chief later today. You'll be able to listen to 64 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: that interview from five pm at London time for a 65 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Bank of England policymaker Danny blanch Flaire says collapsing house 66 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: prices will push the UK Center Bank towards rapid rate cuts. 67 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Speaking to us here on Bloomberg Daybreak, euro blanch Flaire 68 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: didn't mince his words. What people should see is a 69 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: collapsing housing market, a slowing economy. And the reason is 70 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that these interest rate hypes that have been going crazily 71 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: haven't actually impacted the economy yet. So what you have 72 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: is shot schools by COVID, shot caused by the Ukraine War, 73 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: shots caused by energy price rises. And then the central 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: bank goes and goes and makes it worse. We're bringing 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: you more of that interview with the former NPC rates 76 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: enter Danny blanche Flaire, now at Dartmouth College in a 77 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: few minutes time. His comments come less than twenty four 78 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: hours after the Bank of England policymaker Katherine managed her 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: fellow rates enters to quote, stay the course and carry 80 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: on raising rates. It's understood that the Prime Minister is 81 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: going to announce a reshuffle of his cabinet today and 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: is considering major changes to a government department. Bloomberg Samuel 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: Etien reports Richie Sunak is trying to reset his premiership 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: after a rocky first hundred days in office. The Prime 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Minister needs to appoint a new Conservative Party chair after 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: he sacked Nadeem Zahawi over a tax scandal more than 87 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: a week ago. Now, Bloomberg has learned that a wider 88 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: overhaul is being planned. This as officials have held talks 89 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: with ministers in recent days on breaking up the Department 90 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. Sunak is said to 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: be unimpressed with the department's focus on energy, which has 92 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: left little capacity to produce significant pro business policies. One 93 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: option being discussed is creating a stand alone department of 94 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Energy and a separate office for Business and Trade in London. 95 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm Samuel Etien Bloomberg Daybreak Europe Credit See is delaying 96 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: a much anticipated compensation day for some of its bankers. Sources. 97 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: The same meetings about bonuses due to be held on 98 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday have been canceled. Bloomberg understands the change mainly effects 99 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: bankers and the managing director or director level, and that 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: talks could be rescheduled in the weeks ahead. The news 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: comes after the lender announced that it will pay senior 102 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: bankers an upfront cash award this year to incentivize staff 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: to stick with the lender. Okay, there are a few 104 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: of our top stories this morning, just in terms of 105 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a bit more detail around BMP Parry Bar. Yes, they're 106 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: going to do this share buy back. Also, they seem 107 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: to have done particularly well in their fit trading business. 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: This of course has been an area of real strength 109 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: in terms of fixed income for the lender, so they 110 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: made one point one billion euros there, but they also 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: setting up a bigger goals for the year ahead, so 112 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: it does seem to be a pretty strong showing in 113 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: terms of BNP PIB and their fourth quarter earnings. Yeah, 114 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: and in terms of soft Bank, we're getting more details 115 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: there as well. Their third quarter net loss so over 116 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: seven and eighty billion, and they had been estimated to 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: make a profit in the third quarter of over two 118 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: hundred billion yen, so a really big miss from there. 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: And as we were telling you the Vision funds last 120 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: there of six hundred and sixty billion yen for the 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: third quarter that had been versus a profit year on year. 122 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: So that is the latest from soft Bank as well. 123 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Carline was also just interested to see the latest number 124 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: of on retail sales out for the British Retail Consortium 125 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: this morning. So disappointing last month, retail sales rising by 126 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: just four point two percent year on year in January. 127 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: That's around half of the pace of December, down from 128 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: growth of almost twelve percent year previously. I did notice 129 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: that one of the areas that spending was up strongest Cafgreys, 130 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: men's outfits and shoes. I read this as I discovered 131 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: that I have a whole in the elbow of my jacket, 132 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: so perhaps I have not been spending enough nightfits. Well, 133 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: I yeah, I think it's just notable isn't it that 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: there was a splurge for Christmas and then come January 135 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: the consumer and bitness under a lot more pressure. Yeah, 136 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe you need to buy your new jackets. Seven right, 137 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the UK must get onto an economic quote war footing. 138 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: Brit Coin apparently is coming and British role to the rescuer. 139 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: There may need a recharge. Now the paper review on 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Blue birdday break Europe the news you need to know 141 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: from today's papers Blue basically and go and joins us 142 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: now for the newspaper review. Then, so the headline in 143 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: the Telegraph, only an economic war footing can beat Biden's 144 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: subsidy blitz. That word should be used advisedly, of course, 145 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: but one of the details around this, Yes, indeed, Caroline, 146 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: good morning to you. So the Telegraph is reporting business 147 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: leaders are now urging Richie's Sunac to unveil these radical 148 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: reforms and this comes as a US races to attract 149 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: foreign investments with subsidies. In a letter to the Prime Minister, 150 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: the chief executives of Virgin Atlantic, Coots, Heathrow Airport and 151 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: also Rolls Royce's nuclear power projects are demanding a UK 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: plan and this is really to counteract the US Inflation 153 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Reduction Act. Joe Biden's three hundred sixty nine billion subsidies 154 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: package has already apparently, according to The Telegraph, attracted investment 155 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: away from the UK as they do plan to go 156 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: to the US instead. Later today, business leaders are going 157 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: to warn that the UK needs to move to this 158 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: economic war footing pretty strong words there, Caroline, and exploit 159 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: its existing advantage in energy industries connected to nuclear, wind, 160 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: hydrogen and also bio fuels. And it's also important to 161 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: note the EU is currently preparing its very own financial 162 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: incentives package, so this is really a warning that we 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: could be left behind unless we do make some radical changes. Okay, 164 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: let's change to The Guardian next has a story on 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: b coin, digital currency could be in use by the 166 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: end of the decade. I know we could go completely 167 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: cash less, but we could be using a new digital 168 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: pound by the end of the decade too. And this 169 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: comes as a Bank of England and the Treasury begin 170 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: drawing up these new plans. According to the Guardian, the 171 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: government is really speeding up its response and this is 172 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: because of the rise of privately issue you cryptocurrencies and 173 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: stable coins. We do know that they can be volatile, 174 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: and this will be with a public consultation process on 175 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: brit Coin, which is going to start today. It's also 176 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna last for four months. The Bank and the Treasury 177 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: are really going to try and reassure the public that 178 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: the state back digital currency dubbed brit Coin is going 179 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: to be as safe as cash. And this is really 180 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: following the collapse of FTX that we have seen. But 181 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the Chancellor, Jeremy Hunt says that the government could still 182 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: decide against going ahead with this, but momentum behind the 183 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: idea it's really building. So Stephen and Carol, I wonder Caroline, 184 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: not Carol, Stephen is Carol all in one word? I 185 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: wonder how you feel about going completely cash less because 186 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: this would work much like paper money. So what's the 187 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: point is my question? Like, if it's very similar to 188 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, just having a digital bank out, I don't 189 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: get it. I mean, it's been a very criticized. Actually 190 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: this it's not Bitcoin. The whole point of bitcoin and 191 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: other cryptocurrencies is that they are untethered to the nation state, right, 192 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: That's the whole kind of advantage of them. This would 193 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: be the absolute opposite. Loads of people have pulled cold 194 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: water on it. Um a solution in search of a problem, apparently, 195 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: according to the Lord's Economic Affairs Committee. Sorry I'm being 196 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: very negative. No, it's okay, but I just want to 197 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: say that I've lost my bank card again so I 198 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: can't get up daily. This is a daily occurrence in 199 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: my life. So sometimes if I just feel that we 200 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: can't have any cards or any forget. This is not 201 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: it's not a solution. It's asia to this problem. But 202 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: hopefully this will we come something that helps people like me. Actually, 203 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: and let's turn to The Times next. It has the 204 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: headline British Vault rescuer needs a recharge. Yes, indeed, so 205 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: e Y is hopeful of completing the sale of British Vault. 206 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: Now we have spoken about this before on the program 207 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: and it's this failed project to build this big giga 208 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: factory to make electric car batteries on the Northumberland Northumbrian coast. 209 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: This week now an Australian company, Recharged, has really won 210 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the bid to revive this failed project. But according to 211 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Alistair Osborne, he's been writing a comment piece for The 212 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: Times now he's questioning if the startup will really actually 213 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: be successful and if it is what the project needs 214 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: to be revived and have a new life. In the article, 215 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Osborne points out that Recharges backed by New York based 216 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: investment outfit, which has led by the former p WC 217 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: partner David Collard. He points out Collard's first key venture 218 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: was actually supplying Ppe during COVID, and he questions how 219 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: his AI and medical technology fronts have any links to 220 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: electric cars. Colleague's interest in British well was facilitated by 221 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: none other than Beefy. Now, if you're a cricket fan, 222 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: you know who beef he is. That's Ian both them 223 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: and now he's not just a cricketer, he is a 224 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: trade envoy to Australia. He's really helped coordinate this whole 225 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: bird but no one has disclosed what Collard is actually 226 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: paying for this. But this, on a serious note, is 227 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: really important, as Alistair points out that building this battery 228 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: plant is seen as an absolutely vital part of securing 229 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: the future for UK car manufacturing. But he is questioning 230 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: is this the right company going ahead? Is the startup 231 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: going to make things happen for you know, is in 232 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: admit iustrations. So that's the issue. So this whole thing 233 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: could be could happen in the next seven days. In fact, 234 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Saiddar Philip has also a kind of piece on this, 235 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: less opinion, a bit more factual, but he says, yeah, 236 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be wrapped up in the next seven days, 237 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: so very nice. And also two hundred jobs Caroline were 238 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: lost when I went into administration, because could we see 239 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: those people coming back to work if this has taken over. 240 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: So there's lots of questions around British fault at the moment. 241 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: All right, Leaneran's thank you very much. That look at 242 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: the newspapers. Now the Bank of England is getting it 243 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: totally wrong by continuing to increase interest rates despite forecasting 244 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: a dramatic drop in inflation over the medium term and 245 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: a long recession for Britain. Now that is the view 246 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: of Danny blanche Flower, professor of economics at Dartmouth College 247 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: and former Monetary Policy Committee member at the Bank of England. 248 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: We spoke to him after Catherine Man's comments on the 249 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: need for higher rates on Monday, and he was typically 250 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: colorful and pointed in his criticism of the bank policy incoherence, 251 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: he says, and the damage ahead for the UK economy. 252 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: Some of the story at the Bank of England is 253 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: that they can be less folki ish. I think what 254 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: you're going to see in the UK is you're going 255 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: to see the central bank having to respond to really 256 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: bad data and so you're going to start to see 257 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: more than we're seeing house prices tumbling. You're going to 258 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: start to see really bad stuff appearing as these economies 259 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: slow fast, and the central bank and the markets are 260 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: then going to respond to that. So I'm sitting here 261 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: waiting and central banks are sitting there thinking, oh goodness, 262 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: let's hope this idea of a soft landing is fine 263 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: and we're not going to see a shoes rock. And 264 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: my bet to the listeners here is that shoes will drop. 265 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: What does that mean for jobs? Recession of the UK 266 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: economy generally then in the next six months, well, I mean, 267 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: if you think of the UK economy clearly the central 268 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: bankers forecast and a recession lasting longer, think of it 269 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: a recession lasting longer than have in the Great Recession 270 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: at the State in two thousand age and nine. Um 271 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hunt has actually imposed a huge austerity budget, so 272 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: that austerity bites, the raising of rates bites, but it 273 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: hasn't been yet they take a time to have an effect. 274 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: As so listeners understand, as I sat at the Bank 275 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: of even my job was to think about what inflation 276 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: was going to be at about eighteen months to two 277 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: years down the road, and you change rates now because 278 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: it has it takes time to have an effect. So 279 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: what was going to see. What people should see is 280 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: a collapsing housing market, a slowing economy. And the reason 281 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: is that these interest rate hikes that have been going 282 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: crazily haven't actually impacted the economy yet. So what you 283 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: have is shots caused by COVID, shot caused by the 284 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine War, shots caused by by energy price rises, and 285 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: then the central bank goes and goes and makes it worse. 286 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: So slowing is coming. The only issue then is what 287 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: will politicy makers do and will they respond pretty quickly 288 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: as they say at the Bank of England, we already 289 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: have de Diner and ten Rairo's saying we shouldn't be 290 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: doing this and that that's going to move rates. The 291 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: idea that Catherine Man has, who represents the interest of 292 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: banks not that of ordinary people, is that we're going 293 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: to see rapid u turns as economies slow, and we 294 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: saw today. We just got numbers out this morning. P M. I. 295 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: In construction in the UK today is horrible, shows rapid slowing. 296 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Look at the European ones similarly. So you're likely to 297 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: see collapses in construction coming. And that's the first thing 298 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing, because that's what it rises in interest rates. 299 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Do they slow the mortgage markets, slow the housing market, 300 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: and then it feeds through two jobs and other things. 301 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: Is there something uniquely British about these issues though? I 302 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: mean you've drawn comparisons and parallels between the Third and 303 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: the Bank of England. But the UK economy, as as 304 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: you will though, is very different to the US economy. 305 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: Is there an aspect that is going to be a 306 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: uniquely British properly, it's called Brexit. I mean, Brexit is 307 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: obviously your uniquely bad thing. I mean I I have 308 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: opposed it to the nail from the very beginning. Here's 309 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: another thing which people forget. When I sat on the 310 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: Bank of England, Northern Rock collapsed and there were thousands 311 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: of people out in the streets queuing up outside banks. 312 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: That didn't happen in the United States when Layman Brothers 313 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: failed it on. So the UK had a bank collapse 314 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: where people were out in the streets. The ability of 315 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: the government to control things, I think is is weaker 316 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: here because we saw them crash. The stockmen crashed, the 317 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: foreign exchange market, crashed, the bond market, and we have 318 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: three prime ministers in a short time. So I think 319 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: the UK economy sits much much more on a knife 320 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: edge than the US economy does, which is much more 321 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: bounced back ability um and more credibly can make institutions 322 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: and policy makers. I think that's I think it's like 323 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: in aerably true. 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