1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous Podcasts. And we're here in Carmel, California 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: at the AT and T Pebble Beach pro Am. I'm 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: here today with former bachelor Zach Across. Zach, good morning, 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, Thank you for having me, Zach. Serious question 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: for you to start this thing out, fire away. How 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: does it feel to be a TikTok husband? 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 4: Oh kay? What she puts me through? 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: I am not Yeah, I am not the biggest TikTok 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: guy at all. 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: Is it a parent on my face or something? I 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 4: don't know. I hate it. 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: I am very much not a social media person. Yeah, 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 2: in all ways, Like I don't get on it a lot. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: I don't scroll on it a lot. It's just not 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: a huge part of my life. But no, it has 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: benefited me in the past and then benefits my wife 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: because she educates on skin and she here's what you've 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: got to do, here's the secret. They just can't listen 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: to this. I doubt either of them. Will. You just 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: have to start being like naturally bad at it and 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: she'll stop asking you. That's what happened with me. Jessica 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: would come in and be like, hey, I need I 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: need you to be in this video for me, or 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: will you show off your skin Carrey teen, or will 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: you put this outfit on? I'm like yeah, And I 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: tried like it wasn't like I was not doing my 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: best for her. But every time she'd be like, God, yeah, 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: come on, We'll just do that again and do it. 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just don't think I'm made for this. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: I try that. I've been trying that for years. 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: I think it was one of the first things I 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: told her as that I'm not built for this TikTok stuff. 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: So you're doing like and she's like, Oh, I got 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: this new trend. I found this new sound. We have 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: to do it. And it's almost started to like a 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: bartering tool, like, Okay, if you want to watch football 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: for nine hours a day, you got to film two 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: tiktoks with me. And I go, hmm, all right, fine deal, 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm a sucker. 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: A minute for nine hours, I guess I will do that. 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Before we kind of dive into some of the big 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: updates in your life, and there are some I think 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: something really interesting with you and I want to just 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: chat with you, and I don't necessarily know how to 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: phrase it, but you were the Bachelor. You are a 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: success story from the Bachelor one a few and yet you, 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: I think, even since you're on the show, said I'm 51 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 2: going to keep a full time job. Yeah, like I'm 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: not like this, this is a chapter a season. And 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: I did that. So I worked two years after I 54 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: was the Bachelor still for a software company. Yeah, and 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: then this happened in life happened, and I said, Okay, 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: I can transition out of it. But for me personally, 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: and I'm only speaking for my own person I was 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: very I got it was a very weird season where 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: I got very jealous and envious because so many other 60 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: people had left their job and were able to do 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: it successfully. Yeah. Now there's a conclusion to that that 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: I'll talk to about. But I want to stop there 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: and say, this has been your decision. Yeah, yeah, your world. 64 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: Why how does it feel like? Just walk us through 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: the No. 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: Uh, it's a great question because I what was very 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: clear to me, like I wasn't the biggest like uh 68 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: fan slash ball nowhere of what Bachelor looked like back 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: like when it started, and like I but I did 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: know like it was obviously one of the biggest successful 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: shows of all time. And what I like saw from 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: like my parents' perspective or they would watch it or 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: my sisters, it's like, okay, like these people were on 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: the show and you know they were forever, you know, 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: the guy from the Bachelor or the girl from the 76 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: Bachelor at or whatever, and like they could write a 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: career from that, and in my eyes, I thought, like 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: that is not necessarily something I want. And number two 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: is like I think over the years, the show doesn't 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: like automatically mean like you can have a career pivot 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: or career change, and I I know that, and so 82 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: like I I think for longevity of like my uh 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, for my life, for me and my wife, 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: like security, having a solid stable like career is what 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: I find, I guess the most secure for us. And 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: like I knew it wasn't going to come from the show, 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: like I was gonna you know, we were gonna do 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: all the fun and exciting things that you can get 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: out of it. But I think for it's like it's 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: like a needle in a haystack to really have that 91 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: like opportunity to really like totally career pivot, So that's 92 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: how I viewed it, and I just kind of stuck 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: true to it, and like Kate and I were very like, 94 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: we're we're in a great spot. So it works out 95 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: very well. But yeah, I just I just figured it 96 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: like that won't happen on us, Like the no way 97 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: is the show at the same level as what it was, 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: So it's just not going to happen, So let me 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: just do everything in my power to keep things normal. 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Did did you ever? It makes a lot of sense. 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Did you ever get the like comparison envy jealousy though. 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Not from Bachelor really, so like people that were on 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: the Bachelor or Bachelorette prior, Like not really that because again, 104 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm not like a big social media guy. I don't 105 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: find enjoyment from you know, making little tiktoks or like 106 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: constantly doing stuff on Instagram or whatever. I don't find 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: any enjoyment but what I do. But I did get 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: like a little bit of envy or jealousy. And I 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: don't think it came from really anyone from the Bachelor world, 110 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: but it came from like my uncle who's a voice actor. 111 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: I thought, like, oh, that kind of lifestyle, I know, 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: it's completely different from my software background and what I do. 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, that would be a route 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: I'd like to go. So I had a little bit 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: of envy of like, well, I mean, it'd be cool 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: if I could do some voice acting and stuff like 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: pivot from the Bachelor to do that, But that was 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: the extent. It was, like, that'd be cool. I'd like 119 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: to still pursue that, but I tried not to because 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: you know, this living in the world a Bachelor, like 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: social media like shows one thing, but behind closed doors, 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: you really know, like it's different, you know, it is different. 123 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: I uh, you know, I did this for two years 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: and I got a phone call one now I won't 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: mention who, from somebody who's on the show, and they 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: they were this was like probably yeah, two years after 127 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: my time. They were on the current season and they said, hey, 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: they're they're they're a big name. And they called me 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: and they said, hey, what do you kind of do 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: with this? Like how do you navigate this afterwards? And 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: I said, well, honestly, I went back to work because 132 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: I wanted health insurance and I had no money at 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: the time. I was making minimum wage. And he said yeah, 134 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: but everybody from the show becomes like millionaires after the show, right, 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure 136 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: somebody has, but this unless you kind of find your 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: niche and like this almost famous worked out because it 138 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: was ten years ago, one of the first podcasts to 139 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: ever be launched and existed, Right, this was kind of 140 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: like that we found lightning in a bottle. But it's 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: harder and harder. As you know, media gets more saturated 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: and it's harder and harder to find opportunities. And not 143 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: every person, I mean, Wells is a great example of this. 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: He's a host by trade, Like he was a host 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: way before he was on the show, So he's skilled 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: and talented. Not all of us are made to be 147 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: the Bachelor and then go host a television show. And 148 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: there's only a few shows out there, and there's a 149 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: lot of pros that should be getting those jobs and 150 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: do get those jobs. And so it was it was 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: a clear decision for me. But I did feel a 152 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: lot of envy. And my conclusion that story was I 153 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: actually started to get talk to people and they're like, 154 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm jealous of you for having a full time job, 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Like I was jealous of them because it looked like 156 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: they were out trapped in the world making money and 157 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: living lavish lea on social media, and then when we'd 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: sit and talk, they'd be like, I'm envious of you 159 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: because you have a stable like income and you have 160 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: a stable job. You're not searching all the time. Bob 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: Getty's a good example. He's here with us right now. 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: Bob has held a job for fifteen years. Yeah, post show. 163 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's the part that I only mention 164 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: this because I think it's something that people should be 165 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: educated on, is that everybody goes on reality television, comes 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: off and just works in entertainment. 167 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: It's taken care of for the rest of the hunt. 168 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: It's like going to be a millionaire, famous beyond belief. 169 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: Like no, that's the thing where I think a lot 170 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: most people would assume that, And I just hopefully I 171 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: tried to see through the bs and just now like 172 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: I know this is going to be like really exciting 173 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: and fun and really probably short lived, because like at 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: the end of the day, Kate and I joked about it, like, yes, 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: we had this awesome experience we met each other on 176 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: the Bachelor, and like people know of the bachelor and 177 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: all this, but we don't have any special talents or skills, 178 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: like in particular, normal guy, I worked a sales job 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: before you were in nurse from Canada, Like, we don't 180 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: have any special talents, Like we are lucky to be 181 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: here and like we'll take what we can get. But like, shoot, 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm not a singer or anything like that. Then that could, like, 183 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: you know, help your career. 184 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, say yes to the fun things that 185 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: pop up along the way. I got advice that I've 186 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: talked about before, but the advice was use this to 187 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: enhance life. You already had not changed it completely. Love it, 188 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: and it's felt like that. I would also imagine kind 189 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: of moving into your relationship and catching up a little 190 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: bit there. This I don't want to say normal, because 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: it's not normal. You guys are living a great life. 192 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: You're building a home right now, you're on television. But 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm imagining that it also helped you to feel like 194 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: you had more of a real relationship than if you 195 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: did come off the show and just put your you know, 196 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: fame out there and burn it as bright and as 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: long as you could. It probably stabilized you to it 198 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: helped the relationship. I think a ton. 199 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I think at the end of the day, 200 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: all you can have is normalcy from this and you 201 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: don't like you got to find your normalcy because you 202 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: won't have that. Like once we got back off the show, 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: it was like, oh wow, like life is different. 204 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: People like no of us. 205 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: This is kind of weird attention, but like having the 206 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: job security, having us like fortunately living in the same 207 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: city when we got off the show was huge, But 208 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: we did kind of follow the right tracks of like, 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: you know, date a little bit more separate places and 210 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: then move in that. You just have to find the 211 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: normalcy wherever you can, and we just we're very vocal 212 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: about it, but we were like, hey, this is so 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: cool that we just did this and this is batch crazy, 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: but let's be normal here, like remember like health insurance, Yeah, 215 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: let's have a job, car like anything, like we got 216 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: to buy a house. 217 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: When are we planning kids? Like it's crazy, yeah, well, 218 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: and but it's it's an incredible thing to watch because ultimately, 219 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: if the sh show is about finding love, and that's 220 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: when the show's most successful, you found it and you 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: two made the decision No, our relationship is more important 222 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: than anything else that comes from this experience. Let's again stabilize, 223 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: build a home together, build a family together, and then 224 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: what comes comes. Speaking of building a home, you are 225 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: building a home recently on social media. I saw that 226 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: you went into the home that's being built and you 227 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: wrote letters on the pillars. I'm sure that was your idea. Yeah, 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: of course, yeah, I found it on TikTok. Tell everybody 229 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: about this process of designing the home and why you 230 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: chose to build and not buy, and just kind of 231 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: walk catch everybody up. Yeah, so. 232 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: Little less than a year ago, Kate and I we 233 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: made a decision, like we were already married at this 234 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: point point, like we would love to just like start 235 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: or start our roots, grow our roots in Austin and 236 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: have our own place instead of renting because we'd moved 237 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: a handful of different places throughout the years. We found 238 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: this neighborhood that we fell in love with immediately. 239 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: It's like a. 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: Newish community, a lot of young parents and families and dogs, 241 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: and it's nice and pretty and it's on the outskirts 242 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: of Austin, and we're like, this has to be it. 243 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: And after a few months of just touring, we found 244 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: like literally a dirt lot and we just like we 245 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: saw the lot, we felt where it was in the 246 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: whole community, and we go, this is it, this is 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: where we need to be. And we found, you know, 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: the model that we really like. We've we found like 249 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: the best builder that we really liked. And the fact 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 3: that we built instead of just found one was My 251 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: wife is very particular about how things look and how 252 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: things feel. She's got this incredible interior design eye that's insane. 253 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: She spends literally hours a day just like building interest 254 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: words of like our living room and office and like 255 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: and changing it every day. 256 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh and you're going to benefit so much from that 257 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: because you're going to live in the most like comfortable place. 258 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: Oh it's going to look so beautiful. It look like 259 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: in a magazine. And uh so we're like, okay, if 260 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: we build, we can do that stuff. So we picked 261 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: the florest to fixtures, to everything. And then it's just 262 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: been awesome because we got really close with the builder 263 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: and we've been going on site to see the updates, 264 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: doing inspections and whatnot, and and the Kate came up 265 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: with the idea like we should write no it's and 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: I actually love the idea because I was like, you 267 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: know what, at. 268 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: The I think it's great. It's idea, it's. 269 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: Awesome, right, and just like knowing that's there, and who knows, 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: maybe down the road when you're I got to put 271 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: it in a new outlet and bust some drywall, I'll 272 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: see a little note from years before. So it's been awesome. 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: It's it'll be done in June, they say May, but 274 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: we're playing in June. 275 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Do you think it will be your forever home? No, 276 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: you don't. We we've talked about it. 277 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: We've I mean, we'd love to have this home for 278 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: a long time, but with being Canadian, my family just 279 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: recently moved to Arizona. I think that eventually we might 280 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: explore other locations, but this will be our home for 281 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: our kids. 282 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and speaking of kids, obviously, that's what you 283 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: get asked about which you're in your lifetimes. Yeah, is 284 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: it something that you guys are thinking through processing? Is 285 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: it one of the reasons why you decided to build 286 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: this house. It's like a big reason. 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: For sure. 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't no reason, but oh there's like already you know, 289 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: a date in mind, and she'd loved it. So yes, 290 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: there's there's kids somewhat not really on the. 291 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: Way but soon. Yeah, it's it's the best chapter of 292 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: like really, oh my gosh, it is uh it really 293 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: wrecks you though, Yeah, like being away socks. I FaceTime 294 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: sure with them this morning, and like you don't understand 295 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: just like how much your heart can like break and 296 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: feel for this like little thing that you're now responsible for. 297 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: I hear it's the moment like they're boring you, like 298 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: something kind of feel different, like a click. 299 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: I've always been cautious of telling people that because I 300 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: have buddies who are like, it didn't happen for me. Sure, 301 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: I think for the woman she carries the baby for 302 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: nine months, yeah, they feel this thing. For me, it 303 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: was that, but it was more it was a relief 304 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: for the safety of my wife. And then like a month, 305 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: then when the baby smiles at you or like needs 306 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: you as the hut like the dad, which isn't really 307 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: a thing for the first like five months, something like 308 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: something sparked in me and I was like, I am 309 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm fully connected. It's a weird moment where you know 310 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: it happens, but I have buddies who are like, it 311 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: didn't happen, right, away. I think I felt protection more 312 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: than I felt connection, and then connection came a few 313 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: weeks in and I was like, it's all over me. 314 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: I know, Oh that's so cool. But it's an amazing thing. 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I recommend it to anybody that wants a child to 316 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: definitely give their best shot. And the lead ups really fun. 317 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: It's really great. Now are you Valentine's Day's coming up? Zach? 318 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: You two are obviously have a lot going on in 319 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: your life. Are you a very romantic guy? No? Not 320 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: really No, And you know Valentine's Day was coming up? Yeah? 321 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: No, Kate, Kate made sure. 322 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, we've we've got plans and you know, 323 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: get her a little like a couple of gifts or 324 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: something like that. 325 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: I do try to be very cognizant and well in advance. 327 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm not like a last second guy. I'm very much 328 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: a planner. But am I romantic? 329 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know that's a fair Like my wife loves 330 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: receiving gifts and she loves giving gifts. I don't like 331 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: receiving gifts, and I'm not great at giving gifts. Yeah, 332 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: So it's like more like of an intentional decision I 333 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: have to make to be like, okay, let me think 334 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: about what I do. But we've also, in our mayriage 335 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: made it clear like hey, Valentine's Day doesn't mean that, 336 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 2: like I do something crazy for you, because then your 337 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: birthday comes up like two months later, and I'll do 338 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: something like this. We try to just like maybe enjoy 339 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: a bottle of wine and have a dinner and hang 340 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: out and be like, hey, I love you. Yeah, that's 341 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: like and for me that feels very romantic. Yeah, like 342 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: more romantic than anything else. I think she would love 343 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: a gift. She'd love a gift. Yeah. On to some 344 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: fun stuff here. Katie's a huge Justin Bieber fan, the 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: biggest How does that make you feel? It was an 346 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: adjustment for sure, you know, being in a threattle. I 347 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: didn't know this about her. This is in my notes here. 348 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: I had no clue that she was a Justin Bieber fan. 349 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: I knew like right when we got off the show. 350 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: You know, she would be like, oh I love Justin 351 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: Bieber and you know it's like he's got great music. 352 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Sure I grew up listening. 353 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, it's like pure infatuation and she's like 354 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: it's like she's like it was like not about like 355 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 3: him or like what who he looks like? It's like 356 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: his music transformed her life or like got her through 357 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: like her entire life. So she has this like I 358 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: got an obsession of jbb that I'm fully supportive of. 359 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: I love jbbes now because of her, and. 360 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: I liked him before. 361 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: But it's I mean, she she might be like top 362 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: ten super fan in Canada. 363 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Well, because he's Canadian? Is it a Canadian thing? Do 364 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: you think? For sure? Yeah? 365 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: For sure? 366 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: Because he's like he was from Canada, became the biggest 367 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: pop star in the US, and Kate a lot like 368 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: she would say like when she was growing up, she'd 369 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: want to eventually go to the States and like it's 370 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of a tough transition to do and 371 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: then boom, oh my gosh, our guy from you know, 372 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: Canada is now the biggest thing in the US. 373 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna follow that, you know, Like how cool is that? 374 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: We're gonna get in trouble for this conversation because I'm 375 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it because I'm naive. Yeah, is it 376 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: similar to like a Taylor Swift thing? Because when I 377 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: hear people who love Taylor Swift, they're like because her 378 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 2: music got me through life. It is exactly that. And 379 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: you just said that about Justin Bieber and I'm like, 380 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: is it similar? 381 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: It is, and I don't I don't know if I've 382 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: like truly ever met because there's a lot of tea Swifties, 383 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: right or swift whatever the fan the whole Swifties. I 384 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: think Swifties are you don't hear like I guess Believers 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: might be one, but you don't hear them as much 386 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: as like Swifties. But she is definitely that to where 387 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: it's like it's on another level of like I don't 388 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: know what happened, but like got her through like a 389 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: lot of things, and he. 390 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: Makes her so happy. 391 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: It'll be like we were watching the Grammys the other night, 392 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: and I mean, just like you you could hear a 393 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: pin drop like showed up on there and she's got 394 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: her camera film in she's getting all that and I'm like, 395 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: all right. 396 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: Baby, whatever makes you happy. But if I do this 397 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: with dua lipa, it's a problem all. 398 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: Of a sudden, Yeah, it doesn't work too well. I 399 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: only say we'll get in trouble because I've questioned and 400 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: not more just asked about the Swifties. Yeah, and I'm 401 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: guessing believers are very similar. They're passionate and I always 402 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: say something wrong and they get offended or I'm uneducated 403 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: on the matter, but I'm I'm so removed that I'm 404 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: learning as I go. 405 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: Nothing against them, no nothing, I'm just I'm curious. I 406 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: wish I could find like a like if I look 407 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 3: at it another way, like if I wish I had 408 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: a musician I looked up to that I love that much, 409 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't really care, like maybe I'm missing this like 410 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: joy for or listening to music that is like on 411 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: another level, like swifties who like love that I don't 412 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: have that. 413 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: I got asked this question at the super Bowl last week. 414 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: They said, Okay, in your golf group, I'm gonna ask 415 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: you the same questions. Okay, start paying. You have a foursome, right, 416 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: you're one of those forums. You get to pick three 417 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: who would be the three people dead or alive that 418 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: you would want to play golf with. They asked me 419 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: this question and I answered it, but it was hard 420 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: for me to answer because I was like, well, my dad, 421 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: like my mom, my father in law, like that would 422 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: if I had my ideal that would be the golf group. 423 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't have this like raging excitement for anybody. Tiger 424 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: Woods would definitely be up there, mostly because I just 425 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: want to tell people I play golf with Tiger Woods. 426 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 4: I would have to say that popped in my mind first. 427 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: It's not like it's not a oh my gosh, freak 428 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: out Tiger Woods. It's like, I just want to play 429 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: golf alongside Tiger Wood with a legend, you know, with 430 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: the legend, you know. So I have that going for me. 431 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: But if you had your ideal golf group or some 432 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: you're one of them. So you pick three people that 433 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: are alive, who would it be? And it can't be family. 434 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, it's too easy. 435 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: You have to said up, okay, shoot, okay, I'll start 436 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: with I'm just going to think of alive because it's 437 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: too many if you do this, yeah, live Probably my 438 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: favorite football player Brian Cushing. 439 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Brian Cushing, he's a stud. Yeah. 440 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: I know it's kind of like a random poll, but 441 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: he's the reason why I'm I'd love I got into football. 442 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: Alive alive. Let's do. 443 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: Oh Justin Bieber because which is funny. I was actually 444 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: in Hawaii with we were on a couples trip with 445 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: like Joey, Kelsey and Kate and I, Charity and Dalton, 446 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: and we were staying in Kawhi at Joey's old resort 447 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: he played tennis at and so we were playing golf 448 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: a ton and we met up with some of Joey's 449 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: old friends and guess who took a private jet to 450 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: Hawaii to get a quick round in in. 451 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: Kawhi before his wife was about to get birth. 452 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: Jabibs and Hayley and the buddies that we met of Joey. 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: They were going to grab us to go like hang 454 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: out and meet with him. And I'm trying to I'm 455 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: blanking out what happened, And I guess, like Jbib's only 456 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: played like. 457 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: Shep a little katie like she was. 458 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: She wasn't even at the course when we heard this, 459 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: because like the guys were like, yeah, it was. 460 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: Just I played with Biber like twelve times and I go, 461 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: what what? 462 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. She had to be panicking and. 463 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 4: So I call her. 464 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: I go, oh my gosh, babe, you're not going to 465 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: believe this, and she goes, where where is she? So yeah, 466 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: that was just a little thing. So I would do 467 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: that so I could be like, I'm buddies, yes, Bieber. 468 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, babe, Oh I love that. 469 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: And then last one, I guess can just be hmmm, 470 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean you said Tiger, I would love to play 471 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: with Tiger. I'll just go Rory. Oh yeah, yeah, I 472 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: feel like that'd be interesting to play with him. 473 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: We're out here with him right now at the Pebble 474 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: Beach eighteen. He's a he's a former champion, so he 475 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: came me one last year. He's the defending his title 476 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: here at Pebble Beach. Final question for you when it 477 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: comes to golf, Yeah, how is your game on a 478 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: skill of one to ten? 479 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: Ooh, the you're gonna ask me a handicap? 480 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: In it? 481 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: Pretty high? I'd say, right like ten being the best? Yeah, Like, oh, 482 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: I think I'm like a five. Hey, that's perfect. We're 483 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: out here, we're going to be playing here this afternoon. 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: You're so excited about it. It's a wonderful course. We're 485 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: playing an amazing piece of property. I guess I do 486 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: have a final question for you to wrap this thing 487 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: up for listeners out there. Obviously, we talked about you 488 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: building a home, we talked about you know, your life. 489 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: Just maybe in your own words, give everybody a little 490 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: update on where you and Katie are at in terms 491 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 2: of like life, how's it feeling, how's it going. 492 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: Just update everybody. Yeah, I get a little update. It's 493 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: just right now. Things are going amazing with Kate and I. 494 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: We have the house a couple months away. We are 495 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: planning for a family, and we'll say a couple months 496 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: several months, and you know, we're just beyond excited to 497 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: see what twenty twenty six. As we say, there's like 498 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: a really good feeling about this year. We're both like 499 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: pursuing some like exciting hot hobbies that we you know, 500 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 3: initially didn't like really want to or didn't really pursue, 501 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: and it's just going to be an exciting year of growth. 502 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: So you guys fight yeah, oh yeah, okay, Oh we 503 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: had to fight at the airport yesterday. 504 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 505 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 3: But it's like we call them TIFFs, yeah, because they're like, 506 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm very much so like figure it out in the moment, 507 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: and we do typically, so we like get it out 508 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: of the way. 509 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just my wife and I have oh yeah, 510 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: but nobody expects it because my wife is so sweet 511 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: and kind and like passive. Yeah, and so we were 512 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: we go to well, we haven't done it in a while, 513 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: but we we did like a year of marriage counseling, 514 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of it was about how do we 515 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: fight well because I am more of like, let's figure 516 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: it out, and my wife is more of a like 517 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: you're good, whatever you want, honey, and I'm like, no, 518 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: I want you to. I need some like pushback here, 519 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: like tell me what's wrong. Let's get this problem solved. Now. 520 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: This isn't night like, this isn't scary, this isn't bad. 521 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: So we've worked on it so much. But oh yeah, 522 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: we do uh and uh. And it's always funny because 523 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: I have yet to meet a healthy married couple who 524 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: does not have the ability to like go at each 525 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: other a little bit. Well, yes, but it's taking years 526 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: of work because it used to just be I like, 527 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Jessica, you have to tell me what 528 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: you're thinking. You have to tell me when I make 529 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: you mad, I'm gonna make you mad. It's me, I 530 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: meet myself made can imagine what it's like living with me. 531 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: But it's always healthy to hear when somebody can argue. 532 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: Yes and yeah, and it's like it's a work in progress, 533 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: like from the start to now, Like you have to 534 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: learn how to effectively fight. Yeah, that effective, actually effectively Yeah, 535 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: to come to a resolution because I mean yeah, yeah, 536 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: every couple will fight. 537 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 538 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: And she she's vocal, Like I know, she's cute, she's vokee. 539 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: That's a great way to end it. She's cute and 540 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: she's vocal. Zach Burnham A great day to day. Can't 541 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: wait to be out there on the course with you. 542 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Thanks for coming out to Carmel 543 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: by the Sea, and congratulations once again on all the 544 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: really incredible updates between you and Katie. Keep us updated 545 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: as you go. Thanks man. Thanks for having me. 546 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 547 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.