1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: with her radio. It is time for the Almost Famous podcast. Yes, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Ashley is still way. So I have two incredible co 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: host today, I mean absolutely beautiful specimens of men, Dean 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Angler and Wells Adams. Hello, Hi, this is gonna be 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: a fun day. We are currently sitting in UH in 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Wells's hometown for the A T and T UH Celebrity 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: pro Am. So what they would call it the T 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: and T prom Yeah, yeah, just be called the clam Bake. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Tell us the history. Okay, so a pro am is 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: when you have professional golfers play with celebrities. Happens a 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: bunch um, but the biggest one is the one that 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: happens here at Pebble Beach and um. It originally was 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: started by Bing Crosby in like the thirties. Bing Crosby 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: was like a amos old actor and he was a 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: member at Cyprus UH and would come up here from 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and he wanted to do a big golf 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: tournament with all his famous friends and the professionals, and 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: so he coined this tournament, Bing Crosby's clam Bake, and 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: then turned into the biggest like get in Hollywood. If 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: you got invited to play in Being Crosby's thing, it 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: was a big deal. And it's who being Crosby. Uh, 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: he's a famous old actor, singer, dancer, heartthrob. He's like you, 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: um but from like the thirties you can sing okay? 25 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: But why And so he was like he was a 26 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: big deal, Like why would anyone care to play with 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: bing Crosby? You know, like why did this then become 28 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: the pro am because like, who the heck cares about 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: playing with one guy? Anyways, you know, he would invite 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: all his famous friends, so like the who's who of 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood would come into Yes, it's probably similar to you 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: know last week and I've talked about the podcast lot 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 1: but you know, WELLS and I played in Orlando. And 34 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: the reason that you would travel so far to go 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: play in it is because for a couple of reasons. One, 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: it's a good time too. You want to see how 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: you compare to your friends. It's kind of like he 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: gets some competition going. And then the party is a 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: big deal, like this is supposed to be a big 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: So was there actually is there a clam bake? Is 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: that a thing? No, that's a big joke because that 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: he never actually had a dinner where they baked clams. 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: But so the original one was pebble beach, uh and 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Cypress and spy Glass. Cyprus is like a famous private 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: golf course. They no longer use Cyprus in the A 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: T and T pro am. They now use the NPCC, 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: which is where we are right now. Um. Anyways, it 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: was such a big deal that Hollywood, Hollywood elits all 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: want to be in this tournament, that they would do 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: crazy things. They'd find out where being Crosby's house was. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: He was a great golfer. Yeah, he won. Um, he 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: won the club championship at lake Side. He was a 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: member over lake Side up in Los Angeles. Um, he's 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: like scratch golfer. People would get sky riders and right 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: over his house. I want to be invited to the 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: claim that it was a huge, huge things funny, so 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: much so that a month before of the tournament he 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: would go down to Mexico and not tell anyone his 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: address because you don't want to be bothered because everyone 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: was trying to get in the tournament. So in the thirties, though, 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, how would they like, That's a long drive 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: for a car in the nineteen thirties from l A 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: to I was still like a six hour drive. Did 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: they have highways in the thirties, yeah? Was there Like 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: was there traffic laws in the thirties. Yeah, But we're 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: not like crazy here. Like the first car was like 67 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: what nineteen o seven, like the first production car, the 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Model T. I would say, yeah, lady, like we're still 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: early on here. Man, that's a long trip. That's a 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah. But anyways, it was listening and he 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: did for years like he did the Claimmate for a 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: long time. Ya and then now it's the A T 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and T. It got corporate and everything. And but like 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Costers here, Andy Garcia is here, uh kind of 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: thes Rice Daris, Rutger, Bill Murray, Jim Canals. We're talking 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: celebrities still a big thing. It's hard hard to get into. 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: I grew up here and I used to work as 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: a child, and I would love to play it one day. 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: And that celebrity I gotta television ship. If you're the 80 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Cassie director for the celebrities, if you're in, you're listening well, 81 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: as Adams would love to join. His name is Steve 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: John's Steve if you're listening, I would love to play it, 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: so would have been. Yeah, come on, if Steve's really listening, 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: I want to ring as well. So we've been over 85 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: to play some golf this week. We've been on to 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: hang out together at a great dinner. Last night, Um, 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman's brother took us to his golf course to preserve. 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Today we played the golf course that wells Adams worked 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: at growing up as a child, Carmelo Valley Ranch was 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: a range boy and a bag boy there. And uh, 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: I probably played that golf of course ten thousand times. 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: And Ben beat me today. I got lucky but shot 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: seventy six. Man, that's pretty good listen for berties. I 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: can't be upset losing to a guy who shot six 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: over no no no, or five over five over six 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: sounds better. You know what was interesting about the today too? 97 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: We played with two of your high school buddies. Um. 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: One of them name is Alex, and Alex told me 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: something on the range that he was a part of 100 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: the very first radio show you ever did. Is that true? 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: Did I get that right? So he went to a 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: high school called Robert Loui Stevenson, which is in Pebble 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Beach and it's a very nice school and they had 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: a radio program there And I didn't go to high school, 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: but I was friends with Alex and uh he was 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: doing a show and I asked if I could be 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: come do it. And my my first like radio entertainment 108 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: indstreet con was convincing a school that I didn't go 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: to to allow me to have my own radio show 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: U at their school. And that's how I that's how 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I started in radio, and that's why I went to 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: school for use. I was like, this is awesome. So 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: I end up going to college for broadcast journalism and 114 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: doing radio and college. And that's how it started, was 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: because Alex Brandt had a show. Yeah, we got to 116 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: play with in the day. Yeah, speaking of shows, Dean, 117 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: your show, is Jared's still co hosting right now? Or 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: is he taking time off? Yeah? If you're still listening 119 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: to this episode of Almost Famous, still ahead and cut 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: it short and flip it over to help I suck 121 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: at dating, because I'll tell you what it's gonna be 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: worth your time. Uh. Yeah, Jared just had a baby 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. That's great. Uh, he's still 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: co hosting with us Kaylin actually co hosted the last 125 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: episode of US, and we were a couple of drinks deep, 126 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she kept like nudging me. She was 127 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: like shut up, like stop, stop, stop. Every time she 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: said to stop, I was like, I'm just gonna go 129 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: even more into what I'm doing right now. Why just 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: because I was being ridiculous as I always am. Um, 131 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I check it out. Help I start at dating. 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, appreciate the plug. Are you enjoyed doing it? Yeah? 133 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's probably the highlight of my 134 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: week every single week when I log into my zoom 135 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: call and get to see Danielle and Amy. Well they 136 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: used to be there, not there so much anymore. But 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't even get the premise anymore. You're basically married 138 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: and Jared's married with a kid, so no one sucks 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: at dating anymore. Oh well, if you listen to the 140 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: last episode, I'll tell you what. There's very clear there's 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot of moments where Kitlin was like she was 142 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: like writing things out on the notepad. She was like, 143 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: stop talking about this, and I was like, Okay, I'm 144 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: so sorry, but I'm not gonna just I don't know, 145 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a it's you know, it's a good show. 146 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really want to. I don't 147 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: know what else to say about it. I mean, so 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: like sell us, like, why should we if we if 149 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: you guys don't suck it dating, why should we listen 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to Yeah, well, you know, just because you're in a 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: relationship or you have a baby doesn't mean you don't 152 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: suck at dating. I'm sure we all can attest to that. Like, 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are things where Jess or Sarah wants 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: more or better from you in like in certain arenas, 155 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, I think that the 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: idea of once you're taken you can just get lazy 157 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: is uh, you know, that's kind of everyone's ultimate downfall. 158 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: So that's what we do. We talk about how important 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: it is to keep the romance alive, how to always 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: put your partner first. Um, and even though we struggle 161 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: with it most of the time, we we always you know, 162 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: try to circle back to the life lesson that we're 163 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: all trying to teach that uh, you know, we're living 164 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: for for our significant other. For a long times, I 165 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: had home, I mean you you brought up a good 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: point because I head home tomorrow, um back to Denver. 167 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: I've been gone for eight days at this point. We 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: had a puppy. We got a puppy two days before 169 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: I left, and so then I've been gone for eight days, 170 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: leaving Jessica at home with this puppy, and I'm starting 171 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: to feel really bad about it. She's never made me 172 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: feel bad about it, but i just feel like I'm failing, 173 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: falling very short as it has been. Well, I'll tell 174 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: you what your first mistake is only to start feeling 175 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: bad now because you should have started feeling bad eight 176 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: days ago. Well why because that why was your new 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: wife and you just got an eight week old puppy 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and you take off for two weeks to go golf 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: with your friends. This was not I don't get me wrong. 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm I would do the exact same thing, and I 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: commend you for doing it. But I'm just saying, is like, 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: for the fact that jess hasn't laid into you more 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: about it, it it is very impressive on her part. She's 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: an incredible wife, you know. But part of getting this 185 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: dog was also knowing these strips and play him. So 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: this was all pre discussed. But at this point it's 187 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: time I need to get back home. Yeah, you know, 188 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to like as well as alluded 189 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: to earlier to shoot a seventy six on your last 190 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: round of golf on this trip, that you do very 191 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: what way to close out strong? You know on the 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: back nine and it have one par yeah, seven and two. Yeah, 193 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: that's pretty great. Um, it was. It's pretty intense day. Well, 194 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: it has been fun hanging out with you guys. I 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: think today what we need to do, um, because life 196 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: has moved on for all of us. Wells came up 197 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: with this idea, but I think we need to share 198 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: our stories on how you actually got onto the show. Obviously, 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Wells and Dean have gone on to do great things 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: post show. So successful post show you I'm killing it. 201 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with Dean. I feel like Amy 202 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: has something to do with Dean's venture into the best. 203 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Well you have a side stor I'm going to share 204 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: about Dean and Amy once he shares his story. So, 205 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: but here's the deal that my story is. I already 206 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: know how my story starts and end, so I'd rather 207 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: hear like Wells or you go first. Yeah, of course 208 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, but I'd like to see Dean's 209 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: version of the story and then I'll tell you all 210 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah. That's a good that's always fun with Dean. Yeah, 211 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Paton started out, I'll share my story. Everyone, take a seat, 212 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: settle settle in, get your drink ready. Wells has a 213 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: friend here that I wouldn't let in the house until 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: he tested negative for COVID. He's negative. So can you 215 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: text your friends? Ye? Nice? Jim's welcome back. All right. 216 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: My story goes back to when I was just a 217 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: wee little boy, right bold age is six years old. Uh, 218 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: And I was playing basketball out in my front yard 219 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: and I looked at my dad and I said, Dad, 220 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: one day I want to go and bachelor. I don't know. 221 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I had just broken up with my girlfriends, maybe like 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: four or five months prior, and I hated my job. 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: I was a tech recruiter and it was miserable. And 224 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm an adventure seeker at heart. And so my buddy 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: called me and he goes, hey, Dean, I'm gonna do 226 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: something for you and I just want you to follow 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: through with it, no matter what it is. And I 228 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: was like, Mike, Okay, dude, I love you. No matter 229 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: what it is, tell me what I gotta do. And 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: he goes, uh, my friend's girlfriend works for this woman 231 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: named Amy Sugarman, and she's best friends with a Bachelor 232 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: executive producer. And I was like okay, um, and he goes, 233 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: all right, she's gonna call you. And she calls me. 234 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: And you know when you just meet somebody and you 235 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: like don't fully realize how crazy they are, and like 236 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: you're like you're still new to getting to know them, 237 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: and so you like are fully present and you're like 238 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: super you know, into the conversation. And Amy and I 239 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: talked on the phone for maybe like an hour and 240 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: maybe not that long. It was a long time. We 241 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: had a long conversation. I would say like thirty or 242 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, which is long for me because I 243 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: hate phone calls. And then Amy was like, well, you're great. 244 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm gonna pass you on 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: to my friend Bennett, who is one of the executive producers. 246 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: And then I guess Bennett pased my nap. Yeah, well 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: there was three ps. It was a long It was 248 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: Bennett and it was Nicole no notics what that is? 249 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: And and you talked to one of the three piece. Yeah, 250 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, I'm sure Amy probably gets a 251 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of people being like, hey, like Nona my friend 252 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: for the show. So Amy took the time out of 253 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: her day to like go through the right avenues to 254 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: get it done, which I mean, goodis to Amy for 255 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: doing that. But I'm sure you probably get a lot 256 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: of people like asking you about that all the time. Um. 257 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: And then Bennett obviously didn't call me. Megan fire Soon, 258 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: who is now probably be an executive producer on the show, 259 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: called me. She's up there. She's yeah, she will be 260 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: at some point if she sticks with it. She's too 261 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: good at a cast producer to executive. Do you want 262 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: to hear an interesting tidbit though? Ye? Okay, so so 263 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: far the story is totally accurate, completely true. Hannah Winkleman 264 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: called me about you. I called you Hannah Winkleman. She 265 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: was and he's not a real person. Is totally a 266 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: real person, and she's an awesome person. So when did 267 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: you come over? So first I talked on the phone. 268 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta I gotta remember now. So 269 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: first I talked on the phone with you. Then I 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: hung up with you, and I called Bennett and I 271 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: was like, Bennett, you gotta meet this super ca Yeah, pictures. 272 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Hannah sent me a bunch of pictures, including a shirtless picture, 273 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: which I didn't even I didn't even request. So I 274 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: called Bennett, and Bennet's like, look, I don't do the 275 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: casting and I don't really like to like mess with 276 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: what they're doing. I can't do it. So then I 277 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: called you back and we talked for another hour. We 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: talked you're talking about Then I called Bennett back and 279 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: I go, trust me, trust me, call this guy. Have 280 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: your guys called this guy? Will I am not? It 281 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: is a real loss if you guys do not call 282 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: this guy. And then they called you because it didn't 283 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: take me. I had to do some problems. You really 284 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: had to work for it. That's great. Well, hey, thanks 285 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: for making thanks for working for it, Thanks for changing 286 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, thank you for for everything you've done 287 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: for me. It's funny. The shirtlesstally right, Yeah right, yeah, 288 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I know, and I don't tell 289 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: everybody that I know that works on that show. I brought. 290 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: I am the person, and it gives you kind of 291 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: power over them later on too, because you're like I 292 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: was right before. I'm probably gonna be right again later 293 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: on the shirtless picture. The thing is pretty funny too, 294 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: because maybe like two weeks prior, like not even that 295 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: much earlier, one of my best friends who has been 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: in the industry, he like works out an agency. Now 297 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: he works for Amazon. He's doing really well. But back 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: then he was like, Dean, you should like be a 299 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: male model, like you should go model. And I was like, Tommy, dude, 300 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: i am not like up to that caliber of looking 301 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: like I'm not a male model. Like It's just as 302 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: simple as that. And you guys don't disagree with that. No. 303 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: One of my buddy says you're the best looking man 304 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: he's ever seen. It just blows my mind. Actively make 305 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: yourself less attractive. You grow like terrible mustaches, you don't shower, 306 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: like a weird sideburn thing, going yeah, like six long hairs, Okay, 307 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: what else do you guys hate about? And you're still 308 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: better looking at that? Yeah? Okay, Well anyways, back to 309 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: my story, I mean, you're you're Brad Pitt. Yeah okay, 310 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: well I appreciate that anyway. So he's like, dude, you 311 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: have to try to be a model, and I was like, Okay, 312 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Tommy like, whatever do Let's try it. And so he's like, 313 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I set up a meeting with this the head of 314 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: modeling for Wilhelmina, and I was like looking through the 315 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Wilhelmina website and they're they're like the most insanely beautiful 316 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: man I've ever seen in my entire life. And I 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: was like, whatever, I'll go to dinner with this guy anyways. 318 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: And so we go to dinner and he like tells 319 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: me this whole life story and it was the weirdest 320 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: dinner of all time. Super nice guy, but like he 321 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: was like unloading a lot of emotional baggage on to me. Uh. 322 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: And then he was like, you're you're great. We love 323 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: your look. I could see you doing all these things. 324 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I need you to get some photos. And so I 325 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: was like, well, I'd have no money, so what do 326 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I do? And he's like, just go to like a 327 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: Nordstrom and like try a bunch of stuff on in 328 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the changing room and take pictures of yourself. And so 329 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: I like brought my one of my best friends, Josh 330 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: into the changing room with me in Nordstrom, took like 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of photos and like a suit blazer and 332 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: like shirtless yeah called shot. Yeah, there's like six years 333 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: ago too. And it's so funny because in all the 334 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: photos you can see the tags on the shirts and 335 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and so that's why Amy has eventually 336 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: sent one of those photos. And then anyways, then Bennett 337 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: tells Megan to get in touch with me, and Megan 338 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: calls me, and Megan and I talked for like three 339 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: hours on the phone. She can definitely talk. And it 340 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: was the same thing with Amy, you know, like you yeah, 341 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like one of those things 342 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: where you just unload everything and like you just get 343 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: you just talk for hours and then so eventually she 344 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: was like you're great. You're great. And this was like 345 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe a week before we left for filming. This is 346 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: like February three, and we left her film in February. 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Attention you guys film them February. We were early February. 348 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: I think you were very like a last minute. I 349 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: was the last edition. And I remember too, because I 350 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: did like two in person interviews at m ZK or 351 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: whatever the studio was in. Uh, did you not go 352 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: to the hotel and do all those things? Screw you? Yeah? 353 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I did. That didn't you know I did that. Yeah, 354 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that. She was like, coming 355 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: to the studio tomorrow, will sign some paperwork that's so 356 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: good looking, Dens. I have to go through like three 357 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: days of being locked in a hotel room and interviews. 358 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: They just look at Dean twice and say, you know what, 359 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: just come to the house, just get the show up 360 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: on the day. No. And it was funny too because 361 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: I was never really a fan of the show. I 362 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: knew this format and how the system works and stuff. 363 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: But I remember when I was in the production uh, 364 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: and I met like Louis and Todd and like all 365 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: of the cast, producers and all that stuff. Like there 366 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: was like there was like twenty of them and it 367 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: was me. And the next day they're like, yeah, we 368 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: want you to come. But in that interview or like 369 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: the meeting or whatever, they were like, so like, tell 370 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: us about yourself, and I was like, well, I know 371 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: the show we're works, Like if you guys end up 372 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: coming to meet my family at hometowns, it's gonna be 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: the weirdest episode you guys will ever have. And fully 374 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: expecting like never to even make it that far, you 375 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: know what, I mean, and they were like, oh, tell 376 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: us more wine. I explained why as we all saw 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: play out on TV if you guys watched that episode 378 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: or not. Uh, And it was just like I feel 379 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: like they were like already like interested because Amy pitched 380 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: me really well. And then I was like, my family 381 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: is really weird and they were like, wow, this guy's 382 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: the whole back perfect yeah. And then so I like 383 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: and then I left like a week later, and I 384 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: packed to be gone. I packed a tiny little uffel bag. 385 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite parts. I want to pretty 386 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: listen to this because you've told me this before. Well, 387 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I hope I'm gonna tell the story that I told you. 388 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: I packed a little tiny duffel bag. I was expecting 389 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: to be gone for four days. I brought maybe like 390 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: three T shirts, a pair of jeans, and one suit, 391 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: and and I like, I like called one of my 392 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: best girlfriends at the time. I was like Natalie, like 393 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: I watched the show and these guys are all wearing 394 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: like nice blazers and peak coats and like these cool 395 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: bombers and like expensive jeans, and I don't know in 396 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: any of those things. And she goes, oh, yeah, but 397 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: like maybe just go buy a couple of things, and like, 398 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's your style, so you're gonna make it work. 399 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: And I it's funny like looking back on it now 400 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: because I still don't dress like that. But it was 401 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: just like I had no idea how to prepare and 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. And then sure enough 403 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: I was on the show for two and a half months, 404 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: and so the two days that I was on it. 405 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: But and so, did you ever get more close? Now? 406 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I've got a couple more no, no, when you're on 407 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah. So my friend Mike, who I alluded 408 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: to earlier, I wore the same suit every road ceremony 409 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: and then the final one I got to see him 410 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: like during my hometown or something, and he brought me 411 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: an extra suit. So the suit that I was wearing 412 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: when I got dumped after hometowns was his suit that 413 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: he let me borrow. It's an unlucky suit, but I 414 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: looked very good in it. It was a little small 415 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: on me, but I just feel like I felt I 416 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: felt hot in it, you know what I mean. And 417 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: the other suits were The other suit was nice because 418 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: it was like a dark blue and I had like 419 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: a couple of ties, so I could like change the 420 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: lookup of it enough. And I like had friends on 421 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: the show that would like let me borrow their clothes. 422 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's something to be said 423 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: about that specifically, is a lot of people go into 424 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: it with the super high expectations and they think they're 425 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a knockout hit and everyone's gonna love them, 426 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and and just like a little bit of humility goes 427 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: a long way, you know, like just have like a 428 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: little bit of humility and be like I might get 429 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: kicked off in on day one or day five. People 430 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: don't really go into it thinking that anymore. You know, 431 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: they're thinking they want to be like an overnight celebrity. 432 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: And that's my big issue with it now. So that's 433 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: my genesis story as to how I got on The 434 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor at Now, I want to hear one of your guys, 435 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: is your sure is interesting? Well, I'm sure they're all interesting. No, 436 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: I really had. I had always heard that Amy got 437 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: you on the show. That's how I had heard the story, 438 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: And now hearing all of that, it was you really 439 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: did you skipped a lot of steps. I talked to 440 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Ammy on February three, and I was in a car 441 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: up to the mansion on February like twelve. Oh, so 442 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: I was talking to them in November. Yeah, that's what 443 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: I've heard. That seems that's even early too, I think 444 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of the guys. Yeah, I got my 445 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: first phone call six months before filming started. In between 446 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: that time, I had blown out my knee and had 447 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: surgery before, Like from the first phone call to when 448 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: I went on the ship, just blow you know how 449 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: how many? Yeah, I'm blown out three times? Really stop 450 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: being athletics? Well, I don't think. I think that means 451 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: the opposite. When your knees are dislocated from your body, 452 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: you're anti athletic. Uh, it is. Your story is interesting. 453 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: I still remember Amy and I went out to lunch 454 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: one day in Brentwood and we're in a car and 455 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: she got a phone call from you, and I was like, 456 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: who is that? And she said, this is this guy 457 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: that just got off the show and he's he's going 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: to be a star. He's gonna be a huge deal. 459 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I was very very short 460 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: amount of time. Yes, that's all I care about. And uh, 461 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: and then I started paying attention to you, and and 462 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: then we got to meet later on and obviously become friends. Uh, 463 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: and I have enjoyed a ton of members with you, 464 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: but I still remember that very first time. She was like, 465 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a stuff. Yeah, well it's funny too, 466 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: Like a sidebar from that, I've told this story to you, 467 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: and I probably told on a podcast once or twice 468 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: as well. But there was a time when after filming 469 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: was over, before this season had aired, and right before 470 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: I went to Bachelor in Paradise, which was like a 471 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe a four week gap, I was in Colorado visiting 472 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: my friend and we went to this wine store in 473 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: the Lower Highlands and they saw you, and I guess 474 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: I saw you too, but I didn't know who you were. 475 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: You're just some good looking guy. I didn't know you 476 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: were super famous. And we left the store and both 477 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: my two friends they were like, do you know who 478 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: that was? Do you know who that was? And I 479 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: go no, and they go that was Ben Higgins, he 480 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: was the Bachelor. And I was like, you guys should 481 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: have told me in the store. I was just on 482 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: the show. I would have introduced myself to it. Yeah. Yeah. 483 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: And we ran into each other a couple of random 484 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: times in Denver A couple of times you didn't say 485 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: hi to me. Yeah, we're getting when you're evil evil 486 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: outside and he just ignored me outside. You guys, you 487 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: guys have to understand exactly have to understand here. You. 488 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about your look that day, 489 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: but you look like you were like a monster energy 490 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: hat and just like got and I was like that 491 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: guy rides dirt bikes or like he just drove his 492 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: monster truck to the breakfast place, like I was on 493 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: the walk. I had a basketball, drews yonde to the pool, 494 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: and I had I had like a big old like 495 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: you can go to the bathroom look at yourself in 496 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the mirror and you'd be like, who the hell is 497 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I think I had white sox with like sandals. You 498 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: looked good, but he looked so he was so like 499 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: hurt by the fact that of my look, even though 500 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: he knew me that, he goes I'm not going to 501 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: even talk to him. I'll give him the Hey, what's 502 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: going on? Oh that was funny? Yeah, that was funny. 503 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: This is a guy who's currently in a mustache. Yeah, gotee. Yeah, 504 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: well I'll tell you Ben, Like literally, look you looked like, Uh, 505 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Mike Metzker, do you know who that is? He used 506 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: to be like a professional dirt bike rider and so like, 507 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: but like thirty years older, you look like him, and 508 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: I just I'm so sorry to recognize you. I promise 509 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: I would have said hi, had I know you. I'm 510 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: sick of talking about myself. I'm getting uncomfortable now. I 511 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: want to hear your guys, the stories off met Yeah, 512 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: people have heard mine, so I'll make mine short too. 513 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: So I think I've told this story a bunch of times, 514 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: but I'm happy to do it again because it was 515 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: my idea. So, uh, I was a radio host before 516 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the show, and I used to do a bit where 517 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: I would go on auditions for commercials in Nashville and 518 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: I would intentionally be bad at them. The whole bit 519 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: was is that I would have my co host, which 520 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: was always an intern, and we'd run lines on air 521 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: for the commercial. And so it was like a China 522 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: paper plant commercial, or it was like a mea Mixed 523 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: commercial or so something, and we would go over the 524 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: lines and I'm like, all right, the line is Mia mixed, 525 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Mia mix, we deliver and whatever, and then I'd be 526 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: like very serious about it. And then this is before 527 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook really and uh, snapchat and TikTok, and 528 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: I would make YouTube videos of me going to these 529 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: auditions and I would intentionally be bad at them because 530 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: I wasn't really trying to get the gig. I was 531 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: trying to get the bit, so I would be bad 532 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: at them and uh, and the next day had come 533 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: back and I would be inconsolable because they didn't get 534 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: the meal mixed commercials okay, but it was a good bit. 535 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: It was a funny bit something that I would get 536 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: it though. Actually I got the China paper plate commercial 537 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: even trying to be bad. You got it. Yeah, And 538 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: so so then do you carry the bit on into 539 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: the actual commercial itself or do you like then starting 540 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: One of them was for like the Tennessee Lottery, and 541 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: it was the whole concept was is that you're you're 542 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: like bouncing a basketball and you're looking around and thousands 543 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: of fans are are screaming your name, and then you 544 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: run to go do a layup. And I think how 545 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: it was written was like someone from the Grizzlies comes 546 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: and swatch it away or something like that. And the 547 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: whole thing was you miss the shots. You don't take 548 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: play lottery, you could win a million dollars something like that. 549 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: So I went to this audition straight up like Will Ferrell, uh, 550 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: like headband, sucks up to my knees, short shorts, like 551 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: old converses, and I was like nineteen sixties me and 552 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: I was like doing the whole thing and they didn't 553 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: hire me, which is fine. And then if you go 554 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: find you can go find this commercial. They stole the 555 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: look that I did. The entire thing was just like 556 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties like a guy. Yeah. Anyways, So I used 557 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: to do this a lot because it was it was 558 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: a good bit, and like, I was very happy with 559 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: my career and I thought it was fun and funny. 560 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: And my brother Brett, of whom yes, and he's trying 561 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: to marry him. He's married. I'm not trying, but I 562 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: do love brother is like he's the best. He's the best. 563 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: And he also was like the good looking one in 564 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: our family. No, Brett was Brett was a model and 565 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: that because he's old now and now he's older, but 566 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: he's still a very handsome anyway. So he lives in 567 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: Brentwood in Los Angeles, and he got approached by a 568 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: casting director and the cashing director came up to him. 569 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: Brett is also a guy that like his friends with everybody. 570 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know you guys know him, but 571 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: like for everyone out there, my brother is a guy 572 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: that knows everybody and everyone loves There's never been a 573 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: bad word said about my brother, and he's a person 574 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: that never loses a friend. So this was two thousand 575 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: maybe seven, two thousand eight. He was at Queues in Brentwood. Yes, 576 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: he loves like he and also, by the way, he's 577 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: the mayor of Cues. I've first of all cues. Yes, 578 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: it's a goddamn black hole. If I go in there, 579 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: I get absolutely tanked because what I don't pay for anything, 580 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: and the bartenders way double poor me because breast the 581 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: mayor cues. So he's in Queues watching his Kansas basketball 582 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure, and a cassenger comes out and he's like, 583 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't know who the hell you are, but you 584 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: are the most garious person I've ever met. Everyone loves you. 585 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking to you. Who the hell are you? And 586 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: are you single? And he was like, Miames, Brett, I 587 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: am not single. I just started dating a girl. But 588 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: like we just already doing like last week or whatnot? 589 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Who are you? And they started casting him for the show. 590 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: They offered him to go on the show. He went 591 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: through everything and at the you know, it takes months 592 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: to get through this for most not for not for Dean, 593 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: but for most people, it takes a long time. And 594 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: so for my brother. By the time they were like, okay, 595 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go start filming in March, he was like, 596 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm now very serious with this woman who now is 597 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: his wife and they're having a child together. It's baul ranging. Yes, sucks, 598 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: but back to the back to the part of my 599 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: my brother. Everyone loves my brother and my brother has 600 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: never lost a friend. Seven years go by. Okay, I 601 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: get dumped by the girl I'm dating in Nashville. I'm 602 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: doing this like weird morning show on this strange radio station, 603 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like I'm in a weird spot. Uh, 604 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: And my brother goes, hey, man, do you want to 605 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: go audition for the Batchelor. I'm still friends with his 606 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: casting director, And to me, I'm like, why the fund 607 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: are you still friends with this person? Like that was 608 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: seven years ago and you're married, Like this is so weird. 609 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, man, listen, I don't lose friends. 610 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: Like you never know what's gonna happen. He's like, I'll 611 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: send an email. So he sends an email to Melissa Chapions, 612 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: who is a big casting director for the show, and says, hey, 613 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: this is my brother would like to go on the show. 614 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: So this is like, great, we'll be in Nashville in November. 615 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: We'll set it up. Now. Remember I used to do 616 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: this bit where I would go on auditions and I 617 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: would try to kind of ruin it. Okay, So I 618 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: am in my mind with my the producers of the 619 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: radio show. I'm like, I'm gonna go do this batchelor thing. 620 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bomb it and it would be really, really funny. 621 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: So they called me up and they say, hey, listen, 622 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: we needs you at this hotel at this certain time. 623 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I have a afternoon drive show. 624 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: At the time, I was doing three different radio shows 625 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: for different three different formats, and I was like, I 626 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: need to I have a hard out, which is like 627 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: the douciest thing to tell somebody that you have unless 628 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: you're Tom Cruise. But I was like, I got a 629 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: heart out. So I need to leave early. And they're like, okay, fine, 630 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: you'll be the first person in. So I had done 631 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: my morning show. I go to my audition for the Bachelor, 632 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: and I'm wearing like my normal clothes. I remember I 633 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: was wearing all jean. I was wearing a jean jacket, 634 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: jean jeans at T shirt with like a bunch of 635 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: buttons or whatever. And I remember walking into this hotel 636 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: in downtown Nashville and everyone was wearing suits because like 637 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: that's what you wear when you get out of the limit. 638 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: And I remember looking around being like, well, MS is 639 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: off to a blood So I have to go first 640 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: because I have a heart out like a doucher. So 641 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I go first, and I was like listen, I got 642 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or whatever, and I sit there and then 643 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: they put a little camera. Bend did this. Dean didn't 644 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: do this because he lives in fantasy casting world. But 645 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: they have a little camera in there and they basically 646 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: interview you for a couple of minutes. And I had 647 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and I remember forty five minutes went by 648 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: and they're like, so you're a radio DJ, like do 649 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: your bit. So I had I had done my morning 650 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: show that day, so I did every bit I had 651 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: done that day, and it was right after I don't 652 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: know if anyone remembers this, but Justin Bieber had peed 653 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: into a bucket at a restaurant some for some reason, 654 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and he had like gone into the restaurant kitchen and 655 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: pete and do a bucket. Do you remember this? And 656 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: so the whole bit was like that buckets seen some ship. 657 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: But like, god damn it, that's a good day, you know. 658 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: It was just like you know, you could tell your kids, 659 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: like Justin Bieber beat on it was a good day. 660 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Like that was the bit. So I was like doing 661 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: this like weird, just beaber bit for these people. And 662 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: I remember, like forty five minutes in, I was like, 663 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: they think I'm funny. I was trying to bomb this 664 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: entire thing because I just wanted the bit from my 665 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: radio show. And I remember they go, um, so this 666 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: was in November. They go, what are you doing in March? 667 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: And I said, ladies, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow, 668 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: let alone doing March. So I don't know what you're saying. 669 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: They're like, well, we need you for March and April. 670 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a thing, and so I knew 671 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: that day that I was probably gonna get booked the show. 672 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: And then there's like the whole story of like flying 673 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: out to l A at the Sheridan in Los Angeles, 674 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: where they like poke and pride you when they do 675 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: weird stuff, and which Deem didn't have to do, which 676 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: annoys me because they did like a whole background check 677 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: on men, Like so they did a whole background check 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: on me. I remember there was a private eye. They 679 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: were like ticket, and I'm like, now I'm hearing this. 680 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dean has never paid a ticket, Like they 681 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: didn't give a about any Okay, for the record, I 682 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: did have to go to the private eye. I went 683 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: to the private eyed house and yeah, she lived in 684 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: Long Beach or something, and I went there. She ran 685 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: my social and I did have I mean, I've got 686 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot of misdemeanors on my record, like invading arrest 687 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: and underage drinking and like all these ridiculous things I 688 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: got before I was twenty years old, so I had 689 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: to experience all the things. I just went at a 690 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: different pace than everyone else. Yeah, but so what do 691 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: you do to not be of misdemeanors that like, yeah, 692 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: that works, well, there are no more I think as 693 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: long as you have no felonies. That's really what it was. 694 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: And the thing I think, I was really worried that 695 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: I had an active warrant out for my arrest. And 696 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: another thing too was I still have an active warn 697 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: The other thing, actually, I don't want me to steal 698 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: your story time, but this is all coming back to 699 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: me in a rush. So I remember. One of the 700 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: things was I needed to have an updated driver's license 701 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: because my driver's license was from Colorado and expired and 702 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: I was living in Los Angeles, and I went to 703 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: the d m v U to get a California driver's 704 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: license and they were like, you have like four speeding tickets, 705 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: you never paid five parking tickets. So I had to 706 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: literally pay the DNB like eleven which was basically like 707 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: my monthly salary at the time to even get a 708 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: California license, just in order to go on the show. 709 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: And like, sure enough, obviously fiscally it returned itself to me, 710 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: but there was there was a lot of fear in 711 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: my head where I was like, I'm doing to go 712 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: on a television show and like it could be the 713 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: worst decision of mys my entire life. Yeah, so I'm sorry, 714 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: but I did have to go to the Private Eye 715 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: for the RecA. Need to take STD tests and all 716 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: that stuff. Oh yeah, absolutely, you have to take the 717 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: crazy person test and and all you know, and and 718 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: funny enough, the only past that I the only test 719 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: that I passed was the STD test. You didn't you 720 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: didn't pass the every ly test. I failed. Oh, I 721 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: mean sure, I guess the mental test, but like I had, 722 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: you know, the background checks and all the other stuff. Interesting. Yeah, 723 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: So that that was basically my story. And then it 724 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: was I had to wait for six months and or 725 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: whatever it was. What is that like, because like so okay, 726 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: so you like go through it, and then like we 727 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: wanted on the show, and then I didn't know. Megan 728 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Firestone was also the person that was talking to me 729 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: every week or whatever, and I think she was making 730 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: sure that, like I was being a good boy. But 731 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: what I did that I think a lot of people 732 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: don't do. And if this is like a cautionary tale 733 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: for people that want to go on the show, what 734 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: I did was I called every X that I had, 735 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: which was only a couple, and I said, I'm going 736 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: on this show, I'm gonna have to talk about like 737 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: my past and if you don't think that, if you 738 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: don't want me to do this, and I won't do 739 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: this because I I respect for like for you and 740 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: how this just make you feel and everything and and 741 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: testament to all my exes, they're all like, you're a 742 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: an idiot and you have my blessing go on this show. 743 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: And so then I didn't feel bad because I was like, 744 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest about, you know, whatever happened with 745 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: all my exes. And I just didn't want like an 746 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: ex coming on the show being like you did another thing, 747 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: you did this, you know. So I just and every 748 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: time I watched the show, there's always like never done 749 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: on this past season, but there's always like an angry 750 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: X like comes, you know, and I didn't want that. 751 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: That's smart. I think it's a great cautionary tale too, 752 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: as if you're going to go on the show, kind 753 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: of cover your own cover your own basis. I guess 754 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: I my ex, my most recent ext that I had 755 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: just broken up with, I cheated on her and I 756 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: was I still am very ashamed and upset with myself 757 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: for doing that. But at the time, I like was 758 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: I was in a place where I was like kind 759 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: of denying it to like to myself, to everyone else, 760 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: and a lot of people, like the news outlets, were 761 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: reaching out to her and they were like, hey, do 762 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: you want to make a comment on your ex boyfriend 763 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: being on television show? And she's a saying she's like 764 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: one of the next people in the entire world. So 765 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: she always refused to comment. But I could imagine a 766 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: situation where like maybe my ex girlfriend wasn't as kind 767 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: as that one, and they would like they would love 768 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: to like dry drag your name through the mud. So yeah, 769 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: it's a good cautionary tail for sure. Did you mean 770 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: if this is a bit wells for you not to 771 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: get the gigs and then like every once in a 772 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: while you get the gig, and you got the Bachelorette gig, 773 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: why did you say yes? Like you weren't expecting to 774 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: go in and get it, and but then all of 775 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh, well, maybe now I'll do it. Well, 776 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: kind of going back to what Dean was saying about, 777 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: like there's something about like I'm not only gonna last 778 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: four days, I'm gonna pack for four days of whatever. 779 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: I kind of went into all those things like I'm 780 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: not really trying to do this, but if I do, 781 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: great every day is a blessing type of thing. Uh. 782 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: For me. Once they said that we want you to 783 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: be on the show, then I was like great. And 784 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: at the time, I had been in some long relationship 785 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: that hadn't worked. And the way that I rationalized the 786 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: whole thing was, well, normal dating hasn't worked for me. 787 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm still alone. At the time, I was thirty three. 788 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: That was kind of I was older than a lot 789 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: of people. I was like, maybe this is how it happens. 790 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: Like then I became open to it, uh, And so 791 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: that so I was able to sell myself on it. 792 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: When you were on the show, did you still think 793 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: you was part of your bed, like while you were 794 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: like in the mansion filming, where you still like, this 795 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be great for my radio show. No. I 796 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: remember being nervous that everyone was thinking I was going 797 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 1: to think that I was using this to like get 798 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: cloud in radio, which I don't think I really was. 799 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: I think in my mind I was this will always 800 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: be a funny antidote I'd be able to tell at 801 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: dinner parties and maybe sometimes on the radio, but for 802 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: the most part, like, I didn't think that was gonna 803 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: make me the next Ryan Seacrest, you know. Ah, but 804 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: I was nervous that people were going to think I 805 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: was doing that. But I also realized pretty early on 806 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: that Joe I didn't like me, and then it was 807 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: let's just see how long we can hold onto this thing. 808 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: Why didn't she like you? I think because I was 809 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: kind of her buddy, if you like. I don't think 810 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: she was attracted to me sexually. I think she was 811 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: attracted to me, like I think I had a good personality, 812 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: still do I'm pretty great. I think she thought it 813 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: was funny. So she was like, I think we'll keep 814 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: him around because he's like good, he's like good vibes. 815 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna I'm never gonna this kid. This 816 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: is not my man. Yeah, And I think I knew that, 817 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: And I think I was like, great, where are we 818 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: going next? We go into Argentina? Because you never kissed 819 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: her right at the end. Okay, we never saw it 820 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: on TV. Okay did you break up with you right 821 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: after kissing? Yes? Yes, so you guys made out and 822 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: then she said, hey, this isn't gonna work. Yes, do 823 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: you think she knew that she was going to say 824 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: that before she kissed he? And she just wanted to 825 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: like like send you on your way with maybe a smile. 826 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: I guess it was at the end, like you know, 827 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: there was only seven guys left or whatever at that time, 828 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: and I think she was trying to whittle down and 829 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: like I just said, here's the thing. I would do 830 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: so many things differently if I could go back, but 831 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't do anything differently because everything worked out 832 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: exactly what it was supposed to and I ended up 833 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: doing very well for myself. But um, in my mind, 834 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: like I never got to I was never on a 835 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: one on one until the day I got dumped, so 836 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: it was only on group dates, and I fucking killed 837 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: group dates. I was. I thought I did great every 838 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: single one. I got the first Rose, first group date, 839 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: the second one was like a football one that I 840 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: had the most touchdowns of anybody. But even though he 841 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 1: lost e well you know who got the freaking Rose, 842 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Rogers. He threw all of them, but I caught 843 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: all of them. But I was like, I'm doing so good, 844 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: but I don't have any alone time with you. So 845 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: any time that I had alone time with her, I 846 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: was like, so, I don't even know what your middle 847 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: name is, Like who are you? Like? Like what's your 848 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: a book? I was like trying to like figure things 849 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: out and then up watching a bat Robbie like the 850 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: second day being like I'm in love with you, I'm 851 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: making out Like that's crazy, that's that's much weirder than 852 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: like what I was doing. Even though I was the 853 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: weird guy. I didn't make it out with her, but 854 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 1: I was like trying to unders camp but her middle 855 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: name was So I went went through the show normally 856 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: and I should not have done that, And like, looking back, 857 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: I see that more aggressive. Hell yeah, like I'm not 858 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: a woos like when it HAPs to chicks take out 859 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: with chicks. But part of it that was just like so, 860 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: like how many brothers you have? Like things that you 861 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: asked on the first dance you said like nine consistent 862 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: first day and I remember, I remember the last day, 863 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: I got dumped. I got finally up the one on 864 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: one and she's shamed me for not making out with her. 865 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: The date cards said best in a best name muchacho, 866 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: which just kissed me, kiss kissed me, you will, and 867 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: so we I got. I was hanging out with her 868 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, you know, it's fine, 869 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: Like what you're doing, I get it, and like also, 870 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: you didn't write this day card but whatever. But I 871 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: was like, I've done the math. Do you know how 872 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: long we've hung out? And she was like how long? 873 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: I said, twenty seven minutes the entire time. Twenty seven minutes, okay, 874 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: which if I meet out with you ines I might 875 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: get canceling. I might get me too real quick. That's 876 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: like that's like picking up your first day and like 877 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: make another before you get You're not wrong. No, I 878 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: know I'm not wrong. You so have you seen Jojo 879 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: or Jordan's since no, Like it's so funny though, because 880 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: we were such buddies something. So after the show, like 881 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: she would text me and I remember we were at 882 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: my Heart and um, I heard fest in Vegas and 883 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: she was like, just so you know, you're the only 884 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: person other than Jordan that I followed from our show, 885 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: from from my show, and you're the only person that 886 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: I talked to because I think you're cool when I 887 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: think we're like we're friends. And I was like, that's cool. 888 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: You didn't need to fucking dump me in Argentina, Like 889 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. Uh. And then like weird things would come 890 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 1: out of the people that made it further than I did. 891 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: And if we don't need go into but things happened 892 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: for other people. The guys that made it further than 893 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: Wells did didn't end up coming out of this whole thing. 894 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: And I would send I would send screenshots to her 895 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: and I would say, just so you know, um, he 896 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: made it further than she. And I talked to every 897 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: one of my ex and they all said I was. 898 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: I was anyways, but I got nothing my love for Joe. Joe, 899 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: we were not meant for each other. And I think 900 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: that's why we both are happy because like I, I 901 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: don't care, like really, it's not how to say that 902 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: I don't care, like I'm happy for I really do 903 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: like Jordan. He was a good guy. We were friends 904 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: on the show and still our friends. Uh. And so 905 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: that's that's my story. Yeah, isn't it weird too too? 906 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean we have these moments now as we sit 907 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: around and like have drinks, you know, play golf and 908 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: talk and let's say like maybe five percent of total 909 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: conversation is ever about anything about the show when we're 910 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: hanging out like very little but just how yeah last 911 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: last a little bit. But like if we're hanging out 912 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: like in Orlando together, I don't think we probably brought 913 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: up the show once. Now. I don't think there was 914 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: one time. I don't think if Dean comes to my 915 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: house in Denver and visits, the show ever gets brought up. 916 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: But when Yeah, that's because we're legitimate friends. Though yeah 917 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm but I'm just what I'm saying is how much now? 918 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: My point to this whole intro was how much now 919 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: it has enhanced your life? Like you did just say, 920 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: like you're wearing a modern family jacket right now, like 921 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: the Jackie you have has modern family. You met your 922 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: fiance because of the show. Your career hasn't fully changed, 923 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: but it's been enhanced. I would say, you know, Dean 924 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: Calin's out here with us. Kalen is Kalen is. You know, 925 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: She's all I need in life. I don't need. I 926 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: don't need a great career like Wells. I don't need 927 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: uh a podcast. I don't need a fancy car like Ben. 928 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: You know I got two Well, I mean, if you 929 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: really think about it, Yeah, so the show led Wells 930 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: to Sarah be in the show let obviously me to 931 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: Calin more so than either you guys, But the show 932 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: also led Jess to you in a lot of ways, 933 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: where like she probably would never respond to you had 934 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: she not been on the show, and so like, in 935 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, we do have the show to 936 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: think for the success we've had romantically. Yeah, I mean 937 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: it's such a big, you know, pivot point in all 938 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: of our lives, and it's like it's something I look 939 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: at with a lot of gratitude. It's not always been ideal, 940 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, gratitude. Well, okay, so I think it's your 941 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: hearing even though this this episode has gone a good 942 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: thirty minutes passed how long it was supposed to. Yeah, 943 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: I can. I can do mine quick because a lot 944 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: of people listening has heard it. But uh, I was 945 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: dating girl just to get rid of a reminder. I 946 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: was dating somebody in college. I thought I was gonna 947 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: marry and uh, and she her and I are friends now, 948 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: so when the prefaces was saying we're friends and our friends, 949 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: but she was a freshman in college. I was a 950 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: senior in college. I was ready to marry her my 951 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: senior of college, you're that guy. I was that guy, 952 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: and uh I was. So she was in Bloomington, Indiana. 953 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: After I graduate, I went back to Warsaw and I 954 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: would drive down to Bloomington about every weekend. And at 955 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: some point, like I think for her, and it's totally fair, 956 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, her grab like alumni boyfriend is seems to 957 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: have nothing better to do than come and visit his 958 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: sorority girlfriend who's trying to have a good time in college, 959 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: and like, you know, want to take her on dates 960 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: and like want to do like weekend trips, and I 961 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: think she's just trying to have a good time in college. 962 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: And so we started doing Matthew McConaughey and Days with You. Yeah, 963 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: and so alrightight, alright. So I went down on a 964 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: trip I still remembers to Bloomington and she's like, what 965 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: are your dreams and what are your plans? And I said, 966 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, I think we got a good 967 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: thing going, Like I'll be in worse so I can 968 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: drive down and see you. And she doesn't know, like, um, 969 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: then you're never gonna leave Worsaw, my hometown. I was like, well, 970 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: there's not a huge reason too. There's a great job 971 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: there for me, like my parents are there and my 972 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: family is there. Uh, and she goes, I just think 973 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: when you do that, you're losing your IT factor. And 974 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and we kind of like, I 975 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of love this woman. Yeah, she's pretty, she's really great. Um. 976 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: And so a month later, it's summer and I wanted 977 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: her to stay in the up because I'm a jerk, 978 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: and she wanted to go take an internship in Austin, Texas. 979 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: And it was kind of my last hurrah at trying 980 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: to keep her in part of my life. And so 981 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: I'll drive you to Austin, Texas. I'll take the road 982 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: trip with your car down there. But let's break it up. 983 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: Let's do a trip to New Orleans, New Orleans, and 984 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,959 Speaker 1: then go to Austin from there. And so we drive 985 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: down to New Orleans and she, uh, we go out 986 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: to our first night, we have a great night. Second night, 987 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: we go this really fancy dinner. I still remember it 988 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: was I had no money in my name and it 989 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 1: was like a hundred fifty dollar dinner. And I thought, 990 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: I was, you know, gonna I got thought I was 991 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: a big deal and I also was so scared it's 992 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna have money. And at dinner that night, we go 993 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: and we walk home and we're gonna stop and get 994 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: a cocktail. Afterwards, we walk into this bar and there's 995 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: like a five minute wait, and so we're sitting on 996 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: the side of the bar and she just looks at me, goes, 997 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to be done. And 998 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: I said what, And there was no sign of this, 999 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: like pointing to this, but she goes, I think it's 1000 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: time for us to be done. And so that was 1001 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: the night before you got into the bar. We were 1002 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: like sitting waiting and like the waiting yet yeah, the hurricane. 1003 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 1: Well this is the best part of story. So I 1004 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: don't have a flight home, and I don't have any 1005 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: money to pay for a fight in New Orleans, so 1006 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: I have to drive to Austin and spent a week 1007 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: with her family that she's living at. So we drive 1008 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: nine hours in a car. She puts her hair headphones 1009 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: in and I drive her like the nine hours to Austin, Texas, 1010 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: and we don't say a word to each other the 1011 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: whole way. We get to her aunt and uncle's house 1012 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 1: in Austin, and I would wake up before she woke 1013 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: up every day and leave the house and come back 1014 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: home at eleven o'clock at night. Like I just find 1015 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: stuff to do for a week until my flight could 1016 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: take off because I didn't want to tell my parents. 1017 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: I was embarrassed and I didn't want to tell them 1018 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: to give me a new flight, and I have the 1019 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 1: money to buy a new flight, so I just waited out. 1020 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: Finally flew back um Tandana. I got back to Danna 1021 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: and UH and my buddy and I were gonna based 1022 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: on this. When she said you've lost your factor, I said, 1023 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm moving. So we decided to move to Peru, South America. 1024 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: And we lived in South America. And I end up 1025 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: getting homesick and missing her and thinking I can get 1026 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: her back. So I came back home early. I got 1027 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: back home. UH and my boss at my my job 1028 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,959 Speaker 1: was like a part time job, convinced me to leave 1029 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: town went to Denver. A year after moving to Denver, Um, 1030 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: I was so sad, and I told that whole first 1031 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: part of the story because I was so sad. I 1032 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: still missed her. Um. I didn't have any friends. I 1033 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: hated my job, and one of the ladies of my 1034 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: work said, then you remember this day, Shews, you're really 1035 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,919 Speaker 1: sad uh and you need to shake life up a bit. 1036 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign you up for Will you go with 1037 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: me to an audition for the Bachelor at And I 1038 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: said no, And she said, can I sign you up 1039 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: on the line? And I said, yeah, you can sign 1040 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: me up, And that's when the whole thing started. So 1041 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: she sign me up. A week later, they called um. 1042 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: Two weeks after that, I blow up my knee and 1043 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: that's when then I kept having conversations with him, but 1044 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell him I was hurt because I thought 1045 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: the show was gonna be starting soon and I was 1046 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, tough it out. And then I 1047 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: didn't hear from them for like three months, like they 1048 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: just disappeared. The show disappeared from my life. And so 1049 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: I went a hand got surgery. And then right the 1050 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: day I got surgery, um, my mom had came out 1051 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: to take care of me and helped me, nurse me 1052 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: back to help. My phone rang and it was in 1053 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: l A. And she called, and she the l A 1054 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: called and they said, hey, can then be out here 1055 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: in a week. So a week after my surgery, I 1056 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: came out to l a um and did the whole 1057 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: thing you're talking about. You know, you walk into a room, 1058 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: there's like twenty five people there. There's a bunch of 1059 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: random girls that are like, I don't know size. You 1060 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: go up to see if you're interesting the date or not. 1061 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: There's a room full of bunch of producers and I'm 1062 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: on crutches. And I really think the crutches were the 1063 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: thing that like sold me or why I stood out 1064 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: to them was I was on crutches, but I had 1065 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: long hair back then. My hair was down to here 1066 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: really yeah, And I left there they pointing to his shoulders. Yeah. Um, 1067 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: they asked me to cut it like when I left there, like, hey, 1068 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: this isn't the best look for you, Like, can I 1069 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,760 Speaker 1: see a picture of you with Yeah, I'll find that picture. Um, 1070 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: it's it's a great picture. Um. I happened with my 1071 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: fund and in fact, my buddies still make fun of 1072 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: me for to this day. Uh So, anyways, went on 1073 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: the show, um, and as I left, I had a 1074 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: similar feeling to you, because as I left the show, 1075 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: I had three friends over the night before I got 1076 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: dressed and went on the show, and they're picking out 1077 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 1: some clothes from me, and my one body goes, um, 1078 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of like studs on that show, 1079 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, and he's like he's like, 1080 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: I bet you're like you could be there like a 1081 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and like he meant that as a 1082 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: compliment to me, like there's a lot of studs on 1083 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 1: this show, and you might make it a couple of weeks. 1084 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: And so I went on the show fully predicting to 1085 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: be home fairly quickly, because all my friends seemed to 1086 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: think that I was gonna be coming home very in fact, 1087 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: my family like and like my family and friends had 1088 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: a consensus where it's like, don't quit your job. Been 1089 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: just take two weeks off like your vacation time. Now 1090 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: you'll be back and then nobody will have to know. 1091 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,479 Speaker 1: Um it would be like a fun little thing. They'll 1092 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: be like a fun a little like story you tell you. 1093 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 1: I was kind of my feeling. And what people don't 1094 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: always remember about my season was there was two bachelorrets. Um, 1095 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: so there's Britt and there's Caitlin, and we had to vote. 1096 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: Well that took two nights, but my intro to them, 1097 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: I was so nervous, and I was so overwhelmed and 1098 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: confused that I couldn't get any words out. So I 1099 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: blanked blacked out, but like worse than like blank and blackout, 1100 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: like I couldn't talk, like I couldn't figure out how 1101 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: to talk. So I was so nervous, and so I 1102 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: said thanks for having me, and I walked inside like 1103 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't even get anything going and so and then 1104 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: once all of our entrances were done, um, we all 1105 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: went back to the hotel because it was a two 1106 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: day film. It was two night filming, and so that 1107 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: was my only interactions, Like I laid the all night. 1108 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: Then I remember being like, you're an idiot and you're 1109 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: going home, like your friends are gonna make fun of you, 1110 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: like you have totally just like embarrassed yourself in front 1111 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: of like everybody, and you're gone. Well it didn't work 1112 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: out that way. I end up sticking around forbid, did 1113 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: you vote for Caitlin? I did? I wasn't fully can 1114 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: mean I knew like two from talking to two minutes 1115 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: of them, right, yeah, like you know then you blacked out, 1116 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: son't remember probably talking, but I remember that night I 1117 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: was so like up in the air I'm like, I 1118 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: don't know who to vote for. Producers like who you 1119 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: vote for? Us, Like, I don't know, Like I barely 1120 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: remember both their names right now. Um. And when I 1121 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 1: went onto the show, I found out the night before 1122 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: we started filming who the Bachelords are gonna be. So 1123 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: I have no premeditative like thought on any of this. 1124 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: And one of the producers like, you just get along 1125 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 1: with Caitlin really well, I think, And so I was like, 1126 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: I'll vote for Caitlin. Then she seems cool. They poisoned 1127 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: the well they were leading you that one. But the 1128 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: same thing happened to us. Everyone thought that Kayla Quinin 1129 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: was going to be the bachelor man and they announced 1130 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: that it was Joe Joe two nights before we got 1131 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: out of limos, and they came in with iPhones remember, 1132 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: and filmed our re action to watching, Like Jimmy Kimlon 1133 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 1: was h you mentioned something about this too. I remember 1134 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: before I left for the show, I didn't tell any 1135 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: of my friends either. I like told my brothers and 1136 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: I told like two of my best friends maybe like maybe, 1137 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: And then we had this huge barbecue like the night 1138 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: before I left for the show, and it was like 1139 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: for like someone's birthday party. But my two buddies that 1140 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: I told they were like, oh, like this you're going 1141 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: away barbecue And there was like forty people that like 1142 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 1: my forty closest friends whatever it was, and no one knew. 1143 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: And then sure enough the next day we go to 1144 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: the hotel and then we do like for the first 1145 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: time they've ever done it. They did like the live 1146 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: television thing. It's like I was gone all of a sudden, 1147 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: and like two days later I was on live TV 1148 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: um telling this woman that I want to go black 1149 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: and never go back. And all my friends were like, 1150 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: they were like, why did he never tell us he 1151 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: was going to the Bachelor? Also, why did you agree 1152 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: to say that on telling it? Because the land Lane 1153 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: is so smart and he can just kee finds ways in. 1154 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was going to say, uh, 1155 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: And he like, I think I told you the story before. 1156 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: I was like in the dressing room by myself with 1157 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: Megan Firestone and we were like going over what I 1158 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: was gonna say, Like how hard is it just to 1159 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: be like, Hey, I'm Dean, I'm so excited to be here, 1160 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to get to know you better. All right, 1161 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: see you later. So simple, but like in the moment, 1162 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't even make words right now, 1163 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so right before I 1164 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: go out there, Alan, who was like one of the 1165 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: executive former executive producers, he comes in. He goes, Dean, 1166 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: I know you're you know, you're really struggling on what 1167 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: you should tell this woman today. But I think, I 1168 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: think I think I got something good for you. And 1169 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: I go, I go along, that's great. I'm struggling, like 1170 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: what is it? And he goes, actually, never mind, you're 1171 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna be too scared to say it. And then and 1172 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: then he leaves, and then I'm like, wow, that must 1173 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 1: have been great, but like what, like, I'm so curious 1174 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: what it is? And so I like keep like taking 1175 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: shots at tequila to get ready for it. Nervous live 1176 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: studio audience, first time ever doing anything like that really, 1177 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: and uh, as we're like lining up behind the curtain 1178 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: to like walk out and introduce ourselves, Alan walks behind 1179 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: me again. I like, I like tap him my shoulder 1180 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: and like, Alan, tell me what you think I should say, 1181 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: and he goes, all right, I want to say I 1182 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: want to go black and never go back. And I 1183 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: was like, that is the dumbest thing, and like the 1184 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,959 Speaker 1: dumbest thing I could possibly say. And I thought about 1185 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: it for a couple more seconds, and I was like, 1186 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. And the worst part about it, too, 1187 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: is well, I that's bad. It's bad to say that, 1188 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,959 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But what I disliked the most 1189 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: about my delivery was I literally just said that and 1190 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: then left. I didn't. I wasn't like, oh, by the way, 1191 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: my name is Dean. You look beautiful. You didn't even 1192 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: tell your name. I didn't even I don't even think 1193 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: I told her my name. I walked out there and 1194 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: I stood right in front her for two seconds, and 1195 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: I looked up and down and I said I'm ready 1196 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: to go black and never go back. And then I 1197 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: exited stage right and they were also were like they 1198 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: were like, whatever you do, exit stage and left, so 1199 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: I also to the exit. And then I saw her 1200 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: like three days later, and I was like, I can't 1201 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: believe what I did two days ago. I'm so sorry. 1202 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: And thankfully, obviously she had a great sense of humor 1203 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: about it. What did she say to you that she's 1204 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I'll be honest, she was like, 1205 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: all right, let's get get let's get going then or 1206 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, but deaners, well, it 1207 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: is an interesting ride. Thank you both for sitting down 1208 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and sharing this time with us. It is fun to 1209 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: hear this because I haven't heard either of yours. Um, 1210 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: it's been a great episode of the Almost Famous podcast 1211 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: right here, the A T and T Celebrity A T 1212 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and T Pelbeach Program. Yeah, A T and T pel 1213 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Beach pro Am and Steve, if you're still listening to this, 1214 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 1: you got three Well you got shot a seventy six today. 1215 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: I just wanna let you know, wells shot seventy seven. Um. 1216 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: But hey, thanks guys for joining us with that. I've 1217 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Been Been, I've Been Ashley and That's the Almost Famous 1218 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: podcasting bong boom followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost 1219 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen 1220 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: to podcasts.