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Speaker 2: App feazzey sec Bye Bye bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Would it be a wah?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Is that French for goodbye bye bye? Goodbye? Sayonarra bye

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Speaker 3: in any language?

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Speaker 2: The SEC out of the college football playoff Happy Friday

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Speaker 2: erin Torres.

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Speaker 3: How are you well?

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Speaker 5: I'm great, enjoyed the heck out of the game on

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Speaker 5: Thursday night, and I was just telling Bow in the back,

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Speaker 5: is that listen? I love a good college football you

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Speaker 5: know narrative as much as the next. And I love

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Speaker 5: this old mysstory kind of proven Lane Kiffin wrong. I

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Speaker 5: was kind of pulling for Miami to win No SEC

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Speaker 5: team in the championship game for a third straight year.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I set out the meme last night.

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Speaker 5: But when Greg Sankie walks in all these commissioners meetings

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Speaker 5: over the next couple months, I hope all the commissioners

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Speaker 5: pull the Connor McGregor meme of who the F this guy?

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen, but I hope that

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, a lot to get to Greg SANKI wanting

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Speaker 2: more opportunities for the SEC in the future college football playoffs. Right,

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Speaker 2: five plus eleven, so then the SEC could have what

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Speaker 2: nine schools in the playoff. Not so fast, my friend,

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Speaker 2: because for back to back years they can't get a

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Speaker 2: team in the National champions straight game. And yes, Michigan

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Speaker 2: Washington was yes, yeah, you're right, you're right. So now

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Speaker 2: three straight years, even with tonight's outcome, not set up

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Speaker 2: three straight years. The last time he was Georgia and TCU,

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Speaker 2: as he pointed out to a text of the PTSD

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Speaker 2: from attending that game and how bad it was. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that last night's game is interesting in

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Speaker 2: the fact of it eliminated an SEC school, an ACC

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Speaker 2: school has now made it to the National Championship Game,

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Speaker 2: and an ACC school Aaron that was the last at

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Speaker 2: large team in the bracket to make it. So there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of tentacles coming from last night's game.

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Speaker 2: Miami now gets to play a National Championship game in

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Speaker 2: their home stadium. That's been done before with them in

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Speaker 2: college football. But I don't feel that the National Championship

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Speaker 2: Game has been lacking at any point without an SEC

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Speaker 2: team in the National championship, and in fact, I think

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Speaker 2: that there was a time where we were just so

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Speaker 2: so now I feel that for as great as Miami's

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Speaker 2: tradition is of being the U, it feels like there's

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Speaker 2: new blood, new blood in the College Football Playoff. I mean,

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Speaker 2: even having Ole Miss representing the SEC, it just didn't

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Speaker 2: They didn't even I'm not saying they're not an SEC team,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't the LSU Alabama, Georgia Florida quad that

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Speaker 2: you would get where we would be like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: them again. So it was new. It was different, but

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Speaker 2: it also may be a changing of the guard that

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Speaker 5: Well, I know we're not going to spend too much

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Speaker 5: time giving the former Old Miss coach, you know, airtime here,

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Speaker 5: but I bring it up because to your point about

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Speaker 5: even within the SEC, there's a tier above the tier.

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Speaker 5: The reason Old Miss had what was essentially an interim

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Speaker 5: coach for this playoff. I know he's the full time coach,

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Speaker 5: which you get the point is because their previous head

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Speaker 5: here and so it speaks to that for so long

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Speaker 5: again it was the Alabama's, the Georgia's, the LSUS, the Whomever's.

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Speaker 5: Definitely new blood in this not only this playoff, but

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Speaker 5: I think that it speaks to a lot of quickly

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Speaker 5: this sport, whether it be the SEC, how you build

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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating time in the world of college Could we.

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Speaker 2: Also point out that Lane Kiffin staying in the SEC

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Speaker 2: proves that it's maybe not as strong as it once was.

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Speaker 3: Okay, land On me, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So the thought process is is Lane Kiffin stays with

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Speaker 2: win a national championship, the thought process would be their

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Speaker 3: All I see what you're saying. Yep.

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Speaker 2: So like if he took his game to the ACC,

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Speaker 2: that maybe the path. If you think that the SEC

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Speaker 3: That's an interesting point. I hadn't thought of it.

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Speaker 5: What I will say is bigger picture and I know

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Speaker 5: we're kind of bouncing around here, but I think the

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Speaker 5: And so now I think even the narrative of well,

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Speaker 3: No, maybe it's the exact same as everything.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that it's bouncing around. I think

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Speaker 2: So you have two Big ten teams playing an ACC

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Speaker 2: So Miami's road to the NASH Championship Game is absolutely validated.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that there are points when you

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Speaker 2: So I think it's all connected.

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Speaker 5: And I think that was one of the themes of

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Speaker 5: But I said, they're out of their minds, run the

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Speaker 5: Old Mis made it a game. Trinidad Chamblis was incredible.

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Speaker 2: We are ten minutes into the show that is just

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Speaker 2: So it was about eighteen minutes they held the football,

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Speaker 2: In the end, Ole Miss had a chance to win

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Speaker 3: The National Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Interesting Okay, so I think that the U is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Us living in LA, this is like the Lakers might

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Speaker 5: I'm saying yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. It's Miami in

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Speaker 3: That's not what this is.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have high draft picks, They're gonna have top

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Speaker 2: five picks. That's gonna end up happening. But it's just

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Speaker 2: A happy Monday to you unless you're the head coach

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Speaker 3: Falcons. We found out last night.

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Speaker 2: Tough day for some NFL head coaches, as you heard

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Speaker 3: But Manzi, we're gonna power through.

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Speaker 6: I think he wanted out of there.

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Speaker 7: He was like, listen, if you don't fire me, I

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Speaker 2: This is how I look at Pete Carroll. Your job

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Speaker 2: I the Raiders took a risk. I mean it was

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Speaker 9: What did you love?

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Speaker 9: I love you, and what did you hate? Meet these

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, you you are our you are our thoughtful

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Dan. I haven't loved a sports story

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Speaker 10: Put your seatbelts on and get ready for the ride.

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Speaker 4: actually says is we aren't built for picks. We aren't

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Speaker 4: built for picks. Oh, by the way, courtesy to Sam

441
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 4: for dropping that one. I stole his line.

442
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 3: I was trying to pretend like.

443
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 4: So anyways, my favorite story of the season as has

444
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 4: now come full circle. I loved it. Thank you, Aaron Glenn.

445
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 4: I love that. From the weekend.

446
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: I'd also like to say Jason wanted me to jump

447
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: off the ship of Aaron Glenn Staying next year. He

448
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: actually tried to bully me a few weeks ago in

449
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: trying to move off of that and he it was close,

450
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: honestly it was. But in the end, I said, Aaron

451
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Glenn Stays. And again since the last time that I

452
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: checked the stat both the Cowboys, Titans, and Niners each

453
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 2: added interceptions, so the gap was zero and then the

454
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Speaker 2: next worst was six interceptions in the NFL.

455
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Speaker 4: How hard is it like? It's almost like you have

456
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Speaker 4: to try to not not.

457
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 3: Fall.

458
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was an interception yesterday. I think that went

459
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Speaker 4: off of an offensive linement that just fell into the

460
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: stomach of a defensive lineman.

461
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: There's no skill to that.

462
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 4: It's just so strained.

463
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: You got Drake Thomas's interception of brock Perty on the

464
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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey play on Saturday, and by the way, it

465
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: leads me to my love, I did love it. I'm

466
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: not going over one with the Seahawks win. I think

467
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: that they just as well could be bounced in the

468
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: divisional playoffs, especially if the Rams come to town. If

469
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: the Rams end up beating the Panthers, and that's the

470
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: matchup in the second round of the playoffs, but there

471
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: was something great about seeing them go to San Francisco

472
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 2: and take an offense again. Brock Perdy accounted for ten

473
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the last two games. He had eight touchdown

474
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: passes and two rushing five in each of the games

475
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: against the Colts and the Bears. And I know they

476
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: didn't have Trent Williams and that was a big part

477
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: of it. Not lost on me. But to see the

478
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 2: defense just absolutely swarm and take over and win in

479
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: San Francisco and avenge the loss from earlier in the

480
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: season and to grab the number one overall seed. As

481
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Speaker 2: a Seahawks fan, it was very, very satisfying on Saturday night.

482
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: But again it's Kobe Bryant once told Ted sobel sore

483
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: to be happy about job's not finished. When our boss

484
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: texted me congratulations, I had to use that meme. I

485
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: said it yesterday and it fell flat here, so I'm

486
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: hoping that. But I was happy on Saturday. But now

487
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: there's other business. But it was great to see the

488
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Speaker 2: Seahawks top the Niners.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

490
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Speaker 6: No, they convincingly won. It should have been twenty eight

491
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 6: to three.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's like the Seahawks offense. They ran the

493
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: ball better than they had in previous situations. But it

494
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: has been a Seahawk thing and one of the reasons

495
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: why I think people don't buy into them because they

496
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: should have been by twenty three to three. However, you

497
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: wanted to put it a bunch of situations that they

498
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: let go through their grasp and in the playoffs you

499
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: can't have those. Hopefully they can avoid them.

500
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Speaker 1: Now.

501
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: On Friday, we spent some real estate I forget if

502
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Speaker 4: I think it was during the Covino on Rich hours

503
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 4: on the fact that Dan turned down Rich Davis's invite

504
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: to go watch the game on Saturday night with a

505
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: bunch of people, a few of them will be rooting

506
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 4: for the Niners. So are you Are you very glad

507
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: that you did not join that party on Saturday night,

508
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: that just sitting there alone being able to watch every

509
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: single play.

510
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: One hundred because it would have been frustrating, especially to

511
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: like if the forty nine er fans were cheering in

512
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter where they had momentum up until that interception,

513
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: and if they would have scored, Like I don't know,

514
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: if the Seahawks win that game, if it's thirteen to ten.

515
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: The offense hadn't been doing a ton. Forty nine Ers

516
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: had seemed to find their you know, found their rhythm.

517
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: The amazing thing about what Seattle did was when they

518
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: then got the football is they did have a drive

519
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: that went the entire length of the field to kind

520
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: of take the air out of everything. But I would

521
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: not have enjoyed it. I would not have enjoyed the

522
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: comeback forty nine or cheers. I am so glad I

523
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: was at home, and I think I've told you this.

524
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: My son loves the animals of the NFL. Like, if

525
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: there's two teams playing, he's good cheer for the animal

526
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: over anything else. He's on this Rams kick and it

527
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: really ticks me off, and I'm trying to tell him

528
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: to not cheer for the Rams, but he also considers

529
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: it kind of a farm animal, which, all right, whatever,

530
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: he doesn't like the forty nine ers, because I was

531
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: at least able to convince him yes, and then he goes,

532
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: if the Rams play the forty nine ers, do we

533
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: cheer for the Rams? And I'm like, sure, yes, okay,

534
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: technically sheep, I guess yes, yeah, yeah right, yeah, I'm

535
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: not gonna fight.

536
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: I haven't won an argument yet in his four and

537
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: a half years.

538
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 9: On a related story, with our Moncey Bolanos having being

539
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 9: snubbed from being invited to this get together, Canino and

540
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 9: Rich will be in at the top of the hour.

541
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Speaker 9: Will there be a confrontation.

542
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: They're dead to me. I'm not speaking to them yet.

543
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 9: I agree. Yeah, like I didn't get invited, but I'm

544
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 9: actually not upset about that. I'm upset that they did

545
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 9: not invite you.

546
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 6: As you should be. No, no, no, they're dead to me.

547
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 6: They're dead to me. I may trip them as I

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 6: see them walk by.

549
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Speaker 8: Dan, you could have ultimately observed Rich observing his team

550
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 8: get the air squeezed out of him, which may have

551
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 8: been gratifying at the very end of it then maybe

552
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 8: not fun until that.

553
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: Sounds really selfish, But I think every fan should realize it.

554
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 3: It's not about him. It's about me. Yeah, it was

555
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: about me, It's true.

556
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 11: And and that's what it was about. Your pleasure, not

557
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 11: richest pain, right, that's it. Yeah, absolutely my joy rather joy. Yeah,

558
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 11: the pleasure kind of hit weird, hit your ear weird too.

559
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 11: Jason's trying to a pain for Yeah, I know, I

560
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 11: know it. I know I know where you're going. I

561
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 11: totally get it. But it did I guess it did?

562
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: It? Did it? Is the heat on? Am I sweating? Hate? Yeah?

563
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: Why are the windows fogging up? What's what's going on here? Sam?

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: All right? Sorry? Matzi? What did you love from the weekend?

565
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Speaker 6: I'll keep it quick here. What I loved about the

566
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 6: weekend is all the.

567
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 7: Memes and gifts I saw of Kurt Signetti after they

568
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 7: beat Alabama.

569
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 6: That video of him walking up and down the inspection.

570
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: Inspecting the car after your son used it for the night.

571
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 7: But it's that's the best. That's a good one. But

572
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 7: all of those clever people. I wish I could have

573
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 7: thought of something clever. I'm like wondering, what could I

574
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 7: say I'm doing, just like.

575
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 6: Kurt Signetti has up and down so good inspection.

576
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 7: I literally have been on social media all weekend just

577
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 7: to see what people are reposting with that Kurt SIGNETI

578
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 7: vant mean.

579
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 6: Hilarious, huh hilarious. Find loved it, loved it. Keep pulling them.

580
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: Out guys again.

581
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: I just love how college football was thought to be

582
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: built on the shoulders of all of these blue bloods,

583
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: if you will. And Indiana has become so much of

584
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: a story that I think they're now naturally becoming Monci's

585
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: college football team.

586
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: Naturally.

587
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: It's like starting to evolve. And it's truly one of

588
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 2: the best things that has happened to college football. And

589
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: is someone who is a fan of a school that

590
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: is a now rival of Indiana, I don't enjoy it

591
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: as much, but it's truly fascinating as a college football

592
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: fan to watch it to see how it's taken over,

593
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: honestly in such a positive way, like like we hate

594
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: transfer port when people are celebrating.

595
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: Heyle, who are you landed on the transfer board?

596
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: Like you even know where they were three months ago,

597
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: And it's completely taken over college football in a good way.

598
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: It really has.

599
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 7: And Kurt Signetti and Fernana Mendoza that people are saying

600
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 7: he's the old guy in up and then the kid

601
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 7: is Fernano Mendoza and there's it's exactly what they are

602
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 7: complete opposite, you know, the old guy is always like

603
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 7: grumpy and then the kid is in the background like like.

604
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: It's a good ying ying, so good yin yan. Whatever

605
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: it is, you balance the balance, the fun schway.

606
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: The the gun Pat McAfee it's just so it was great,

607
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: loved it. I was, sam, would you love from the weekend?

608
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 8: Well, I do love bowling, U Mancy Bolanos, and uh,

609
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 8: I was there's you know, I don't do enough bowling

610
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 8: in La. I've gone bowling like twice in the last

611
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 8: couple of years, once with Ryan Berschinger, who works here,

612
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 8: in for his birthday. But uh, it takes a lot

613
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 8: to coax me out of my apartment when I'm under

614
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 8: the weather a little bit. I just was gonna have

615
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 8: some dinner, watch the Holiday Bowl, go to bed, get

616
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 8: some rest. But Moncey calls me up at like seven

617
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 8: and she's like, hey, coming this Friday night. So this

618
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 8: is this was weekend love here, so it still counts.

619
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 8: So she she calls me up at like seven and

620
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 8: I'm like exhausted. I'm like, oh, my voice is crap.

621
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 8: You know, I just wanted to go to sleep. She's like,

622
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 8: We're going to place right down the street, right down

623
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 8: Ventura Boulevard, and it's really like a ten minute drive

624
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 8: for me.

625
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, bowling. I don't bowl enough here,

626
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: And you.

627
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 8: Know, it's just she cokes me out of my apartment

628
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 8: even though I was kind of under the weather. I

629
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 8: wasn't it was my Uh, it was my Michael Jordan

630
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 8: a bowling flu game. I don't know, just to at

631
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 8: least get me out there and get me going. So

632
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 8: we went, and uh it was. It was a lot

633
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 8: of fun. I love bowling, and so the only not

634
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 8: a lot of things can get me out on a

635
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 8: Friday night if I'm under the weather. But Moncey calling

636
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 8: me to go bowling, I yelled at him, was like,

637
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 8: we need you saw my crap today? Still, well, I worked.

638
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. It was like speed bowling. I

639
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: worked up a sweat.

640
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that, but

641
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 8: I was sweating because we were going so fast.

642
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: We bowled so much in two hours.

643
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's payback for the non Cavino

644
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: and Rich invite, but I think you're even I don't

645
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: think you guys have a reason to be mad. You

646
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: guys had your own bowling.

647
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 6: This was not planned at all. They are they never are.

648
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 7: I was gonna go bowlying with just the boyfriend, and

649
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 7: then when we booked two hours, we were like, oh

650
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: that's a long time, so you.

651
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: Just go back and forth between two poles. We need

652
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: like a group.

653
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 7: The boyfriend I were at the bar drinking and then

654
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 7: we like booked a lane. I called him because he

655
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 7: was down the street, and I called Brie because I

656
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 7: knew she was staying at a hotel down the street.

657
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 7: And I yelled at both of them to get out,

658
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 7: and I was like, I booked it in thirty minutes,

659
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Speaker 7: get to the bowling alley right now.

660
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Speaker 3: I was pouring rain.

661
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 8: I couldn't see the road, but I was like, okay,

662
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 8: actually got here pretty quick.

663
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Speaker 3: So I worked out and then so I loved it. It

664
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Speaker 3: was a great time.

665
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, not planning it worked out.

666
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: By the way, a great way to not go back

667
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: to back sickness. When you're recovering from a cold, go

668
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: to the bowling alley right, use the holes that other

669
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: people use, and then you won't get sick again. It's

670
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: a perfect remedy.

671
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Speaker 8: I I was like, I've been dealing with this chess

672
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 8: cold for like a week. I've gone to some of

673
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 8: those germanfested places in La Universal Studios German germ infested,

674
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 8: so what German's there vacation, But like I've just like

675
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 8: I've run the gamut of of of the Petri dish.

676
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 8: So but you know what we we we you got

677
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 8: to live life. So it was great time Friday night.

678
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 8: All right, top that Isaac long Crown with what you

679
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 8: love from that?

680
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: Isaac.

681
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 9: I can't There's there's no way. I just am kind

682
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 9: of contemplating in my mind some sort of Monsey Bowl

683
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 9: Lanio's endorsement deal for Bowling Alley. Yes, where you're come here,

684
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 9: come bowling wrong, kill you.

685
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 6: That's literally with me on the phone.

686
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: I didn't even give I love it.

687
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 9: Well, we'll have our marketing department get on that stat Yes,

688
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 9: you're right, I cannot compete. Uh, it's merely Miles Garrett

689
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 9: breaking the NFL all time sack record for the Cleveland

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 9: brown So much respect for him for breaking the record,

691
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 9: especially considering the relatively low amount of pass attempts by

692
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 9: the Browns opponents compared to other teams, which means that

693
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 9: he has a lot fewer opportunities than typical to sack

694
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 9: the quarterback, and the guy still broke the record. I

695
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 9: would encourage everybody. After the show on YouTube, they put

696
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 9: together a couple of videos on there, the NFL of

697
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 9: Miles Garrett off season conditioning routine and how he has

698
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 9: a whole team of specialists for every aspect of his training, nutrition, massage,

699
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 9: tissue recovery, et cetera, et cetera. They have this one drill.

700
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 9: They have an influencer who's like the only influencer that

701
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 9: I actually think is cool at our DC World one

702
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 9: and he goes through a workout with Miles Garrett and

703
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 9: as part of the drill, Miles Garrett is laterally pulling

704
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 9: a sled, so he's not going up and down, he's

705
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 9: going laterally back and forth. And he's so strong he's

706
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 9: literally pulling this guy with his body weight on the sled.

707
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 9: So hats off to Miles Garrett.

708
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: Quite the record.

709
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: I already used it my love, but if I had another,

710
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: I love how the Bengals accepted that with class yesterday.

711
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Let's get to our hate for the weekend. Maybe that

712
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: is Isaac Longcron's hate. Isaac, I'll throw it back to you.

713
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 9: That's exactly what my hate was. So the Bengals, Zach

714
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 9: Taylor and Jamar Chase were upset because the officials stopped

715
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 9: play after Miles Garrett's record breaking sack. They're down seventeen

716
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 9: to twelve in the fourth quarter, about five minutes ago,

717
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 9: they stopped the game and Zach Taylor and Jamar Chase

718
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 9: are complaining. Taylor says he was not informed of it

719
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 9: before the game, which is understandable, but he had his

720
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 9: undies in a bundle because he wanted to go with

721
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 9: a quick tempo and not sub after the set, and

722
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 9: that allowed the Browns the opportunity to match up with

723
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 9: the game stoppage when they wanted to go quick tempo,

724
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 9: and among other things, he said, we're fighting for our

725
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 9: lives here. We're playing for our lives here, and I'm like, dude,

726
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 9: first of all, that's essentially an extra timeout for your team.

727
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 9: You're down seventeen to twelve or five minutes ago, and

728
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 9: it'll be another thing if you were in playoff contention.

729
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 9: But come on, you've long since been eliminated from the playoffs.

730
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 9: It's an all time NFL record. It's not like a

731
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 9: guy moving into seventh place in franchise history on the

732
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 9: all time passes defense list. They only stop the game

733
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 9: if you break a prominent NFL record. So in that situation,

734
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 9: saying that you're playing for our lives here, no soft,

735
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 9: soft soft and unlikable.

736
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 7: Yes, swaft you and Jamar Chase for saying that do

737
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 7: you hate Monty?

738
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 6: What did I hate? Well?

739
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 7: I hated that the Clippers lost to the Celtics, but

740
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 7: more importantly, I hated that Derek Jones Junior, who just

741
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 7: came back from an injury that he suffered against the

742
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 7: Boston Celtics, where Jalen Brown dives for a ball, goes

743
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 7: into his knee, and the exact same thing happens with

744
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 7: Peyton Pritchard who dives for a ball, goes towards the

745
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 7: knee of the same knee for Derek Jones Junior, and

746
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 7: now he's out.

747
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 6: That's what I.

748
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: Hated, deja vous all over again.

749
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 6: With the same thing.

750
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 7: It was like you put the plays back to back

751
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 7: and you're like, how how does this happen?

752
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: Okay, it's the same team.

753
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: Jim Matte, right, they teach it's a Celtics things, right,

754
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: those darn Celtics.

755
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 6: I'm I was so mad. I was so the minute

756
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 6: I saw it, I said, he's out.

757
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 7: He's out again, same same knee, same injury, out again.

758
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I hated, and I hated that

759
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard played well yesterday because it took a little

760
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: bit of shine off of the Philip Rivers experiment, and

761
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: that makes you wonder maybe the cult should have just

762
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: gone with Riley Leonard over the list couple of weeks.

763
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: I hope it didn't take away from Philip Rivers, but

764
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: I guess in a way, kudos to Riley Leonard for

765
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: competing and playing well against the Houston Texans. He did

766
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: fill in for Daniel Jones and played well in that

767
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: loss to Jacksonville a few weeks ago. But we had

768
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: loved Philip Rivers over the previous three weeks. Unfortunately they

769
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: went oh and three. Riley Leonard held his own and

770
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: then some against Houston. Maybe they should have just played

771
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: him those three games.

772
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

773
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: I didn't wish any ill will for Riley Leonard, but

774
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: to see how well he played, then you're thinking, like,

775
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: all right, maybe maybe they shouldn't have gone to Philip Rivers.

776
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: Was Riley Leonard sorry injured?

777
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean to me, he was.

778
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: He was.

779
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: He got hurt in that Jacksonville game where he was

780
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: questionable to play. So you bring in Philip Rivers, you

781
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna be able to play against Seattle.

782
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: He ultimately was ready to play against Seattle, but they

783
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: had brought Philip Rivers in, and all right, when you

784
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: bring him in, you're not gonna be like, hey, you're

785
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: in a quarterback competition. You give him the job.

786
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: But yes, by the way, Ryan Clark, who was the

787
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: most out spoken against Philip Rivers over the last couple

788
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: of weeks, he was taking victory laps yesterday after that

789
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: kind of the opposite of what you're feeling right now.

790
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but hey, I loved what Philip Rivers gave

791
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: us and Riley Leonard hopefully le have a long career

792
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Yeah, all right, Iowa, Sam, would you hate?

793
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 8: I think Jason should go first because mine sort of related,

794
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 8: but I don't want to step on his.

795
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: Why don't we go to Jason first?

796
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: Sam doesn't want to Sam Up.

797
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: It's interesting the spins on Press Your Luck.

798
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 4: I think we've taught Sam. Well, he's stopping himself from

799
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: Sam and up. It's pretty amazing.

800
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: Well that was my Spanish name in the Spanish Samuel.

801
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 4: I've often said on this show that I care less

802
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: about what happens in sports than I do about how

803
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: it's covered. And this is what I mean. Uh, The

804
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: Steelers win last night on the missfield goal by what's

805
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: the name loot Pootoo, and uh, everyone goes nuts about

806
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: Mike Tarico's call. Now, most of it was positive, how

807
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: Tourrico's amazing, he got wrapped up in a great emotion.

808
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: And then there was a sub section of people, dare

809
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: I say, Sam, superstitious people, Ravens fans who did not

810
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: appreciate Mike Turrico saying this before the kick.

811
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 12: They went around the country and spoke to a lot

812
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 12: of the kickers who were coming out, and they decided

813
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 12: Tyler Luke was made of the right stuff for moments

814
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 12: like this. He now has a chance to win the

815
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 12: division for the Ravens the final play of the regular season,

816
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 12: for the final spot in the playoffs.

817
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: Tyler Luke from forty four stick good the Feelers' check

818
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 3: in to the North.

819
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: Now you notice Mike has set up the kick by

820
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: saying they went out and got this guy. He's built

821
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: for moments like this. And I hated that moment for

822
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Ravens fans. I'm the guy who's sitting there on my

823
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: couch saying, did Terarico just say that? That's the last

824
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: thing you want to hear if you're a Ravens fan

825
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: for a basically just an easy is a scene setter,

826
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: and in mont Rico does he missed.

827
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: Everything is just easy as it goes, just throwing along,

828
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: just like the holy Water. And then when they showed

829
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: the clip, it was the wrong end zone. This was

830
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: the kick, This was the end zone. Now there was

831
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: a clip that surfaced later on of the priest putting

832
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: the holy water in that end zone, but it wasn't

833
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: the ones shown on NBC. And I think Tarico realized

834
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: that midkick that his feel good story with the video

835
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: that they were showing did not add up. Some people

836
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: caught it to it online. It's an open ended stadium,

837
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: so you know, one end over the other, and he

838
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: was doing it in the far end zone at the

839
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: one that they were showing on NBC. Yeah, maybe maybe

840
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: not a good night for NBC in that Pittsburgh Steelers

841
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Ravens game. Tough one for Melissa's, tough one for Mike

842
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Trico and Iowa Sam wrap it up with.

843
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 8: This, whatever is to blame for Tyler Loops miss I

844
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 8: do hate, I do hate kickers having to deal with

845
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 8: moments like that. And Chris Boswell was just in that position,

846
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 8: you know, of whatever, ten minutes prior five minutes prior,

847
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 8: and it's just such a kicking is such such a

848
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 8: weird thing, Like it's a specialty. You're you're treated differently,

849
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 8: You're you're sort of like a different section of the

850
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 8: football team. And you're like the guys always say you

851
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 8: got one job, but there is something odds about a

852
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 8: sequence of snapping the ball, holding it, a setting it

853
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 8: and kicking it.

854
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: Through the uprights.

855
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 8: It it can things can go sideways, literally, and no

856
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 8: matter if you're nine of ten or ten of ten

857
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 8: from that distance through the season or whatever. It's just

858
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 8: like I feel for these guys because obviously they want

859
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 8: to make it. But it's like it's like, okay, you're

860
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 8: gonna sign this contract. Here, we're gonna give you ten

861
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 8: million dollars. And then I signed my name or whatever

862
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 8: someone signs their name, they didn't dot the lowercase J,

863
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 8: and they say, oh, it's invalid. Now you did everything

864
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 8: up until this point, but you didn't do that one

865
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 8: little bit, the little whether it's Boswell's extra point missed

866
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 8: or the field goal, and you were like and then like,

867
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 8: how does Isaiah likely feel after that? After making that

868
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 8: amazing catch to put them in position. And so like,

869
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 8: I saw John Harbaugh consoling Tyler Loop after the game

870
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 8: on the in the tunnel, and I just like, I

871
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 8: hate it. I feel for him because you know, these guys,

872
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 8: they just kick over and over hundreds, They've got thousands

873
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 8: of practice kicks and then it goes, it goes like this.

874
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for you, you were in a lose lose situation because

875
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: if Loop makes it, you're feeling bad for Chris Boswell.

876
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly.

877
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: So there, yeah, there was two kickers. There were Sports. Yeah,

878
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: that's sports. Baby.

879
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 7: They literally showed Chris Boswell right before the kick on

880
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 7: the sideline because he knew.

881
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 6: He was like they're about to win and they have

882
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 6: just cast his stick.

883
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: His guts were, you know, all wrenched up.

884
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 7: So he also went from like agony to ecstasy too,

885
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 7: and then port Tyler Lup went the other way.

886
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Speaker 3: All right there.

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890
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891
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892
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: All right, way to go.

893
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: You made it to the middle of the week and

894
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: we'll get to Carry Roads in a second.

895
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: He's just taking victory.

896
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: Laps around this day a year at Fox Sports Radio.

897
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: How many do you want to take in calling that

898
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh would be out as the Baltimore Ravens head coach.

899
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 10: You know what, Nan, I'm a humble guy. Yeah, you are, definitely,

900
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 10: And I Am not going to take any praise. I'm

901
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 10: just gonna let the conversation go where it may.

902
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: Is this Carry Rhodes? We sure? Are we sure?

903
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: This is carry? You didn't you did? You've been calling

904
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: this for a while. Yeah, that John Harball would not

905
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: return as the Ravens head coach. Carry and our team

906
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: up on Sundays on Fox Sports Radio in our end

907
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: Zone Radio show, bringing you all the action from the

908
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: late window of the NFL schedule. We sign off right

909
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: before Sunday Night football kicks off. And as we signed

910
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: off fun Sunday, I gave him three options on who

911
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: would be back next year. It was Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin,

912
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: and John Harbaugh. And when I asked about John Harbaugh,

913
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: you said that he would not be back. Was this

914
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: your gut? Was this intel? What let you know? On

915
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Sunday that Sunday Nights game in Pittsburgh would ultimately be

916
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh's last with the Ravens.

917
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's one of those things where it's it's

918
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 10: a gut felling for sure, but also being in the

919
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 10: locker room and being around guys and and you know,

920
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 10: you know, guys have their own agendas. People are trying

921
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 10: to reach certain milestones. You have coaches that are trying

922
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 10: to coach for their jobs. You have other coaches that

923
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 10: are seeking jobs. You have all these things that are

924
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 10: happening in a locker room. Right where are you supposed

925
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 10: to be on one accord? So when that all too common,

926
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 10: praise comes out like we're all in together. Yeah, we're

927
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 10: all in together when things are good, because when things

928
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 10: aren't good, people have you know, it's human and people

929
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 10: have thoughts and other agendas and other things that creep in.

930
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 10: And when you watch the Ravens this year, and not

931
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 10: even just this year, but the last couple of years,

932
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 10: when things are good, you don't hear a thing come

933
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 10: out of there. You don't, you know, don't you hear the

934
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 10: You hear the coach openly praising their star quarterback and

935
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 10: their star players. You hear the players being complimentary to

936
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 10: the coach all the time, and you know it's just

937
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 10: certain factors and certain like talking points and key points

938
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 10: come out when things are good. This year hasn't been

939
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 10: that at all. I mean from the start of the season,

940
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 10: the expectations were high. And when expectations are high, and

941
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 10: especially for a coach that's been there for a long time,

942
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 10: if you don't meet those expectations, there are ramifications. Now

943
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 10: if there's not going to be coordinators gone or players gone,

944
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 10: somebody's somebody's going to be gone.

945
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: And you think about their situation. The GM is set.

946
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 10: As many players as he's brought in and the type

947
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 10: of caliber players he brought in, they're good, right the

948
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 10: players have they underachieved for the Ravens a thousand percent.

949
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 10: But if you're not gonna get if you're not gonna

950
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 10: get rid of some of those key players, then where's

951
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 10: that fall to Dan? And so it's just like it's

952
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 10: almost like the process of elimination gut and also just

953
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 10: being in the locker room and knowing how the factory

954
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 10: works well.

955
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: And I want to get to that because it felt

956
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: that a lot of the comments from Harball were reactionary

957
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: to comments that were made instead of being proactive.

958
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: Is that fair?

959
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: Throughout the season where you talked about the leaks that

960
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: we would never hear, then we started to hear leaks,

961
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: and then it was in response to the leaks that

962
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: Harball would have to say what he had to say. Well,

963
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: then there was the Mike Preston article that was criticizing Lamar.

964
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: I felt that there was more of a campaign that

965
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: Harball was on his way out, and I felt that

966
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: the Preston piece in the Baltimore Sun about Lamar was

967
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: in response to all of the Harbaugh stuff. Whether that

968
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: was the way it actually went or not, the fact

969
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: is this stuff was getting out to people that we

970
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: hadn't seen in the last eighteen years with the Ravens. Yes,

971
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: and that's the tail tale sign. Then when the cracks,

972
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: when when the fishers start, fisher starts to widen, you know,

973
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: there's trouble there.

974
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 10: It's bigger than the fisher. It's a chasm at that point.

975
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 10: And so once you get to that point and then

976
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 10: all these things start to leak out and then the

977
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 10: performance goes down, and then we start to do our

978
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 10: own research and like have our data points on this team,

979
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 10: specifically in the Lamar years, and you see all the

980
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 10: years that they've had and they've been really good in

981
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 10: the regular season, there still be doubts of you know,

982
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 10: is Harbball making the right decisions?

983
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: Is Harbball being a little bit too lenient?

984
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 10: Is Horrball Like those things would still kind of come out,

985
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 10: but they would get swept under rug. But when you're

986
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 10: not winning, there's nowhere to hide those things, and so

987
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 10: that's where it comes out to.

988
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: I just I compare it.

989
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult to compare it to Pittsburgh

990
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: because of Pittsburgh's ownership with the Rooney family and how

991
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: they've always treated head coaches. The Ravens a newer franchise

992
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: in the world of the NFL. Plus you have Steve

993
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: is Shaddy, the owner took over from Art Modell and

994
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: the Modell family, so Bashadi's there, but there seems to

995
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: be quite a bit of loyalty to Harbaugh. I compare

996
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: it to I compare it to what happened in Seattle

997
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: with Pete Carroll, and I think a lot of these

998
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: long tenured coaches and the Saints are different. The Saints

999
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: were different as well because I felt that Sean Payton

1000
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: and Mickey Loomis were kind of running the Saints. When

1001
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Tom Benson ended up passing away, then Gail Benson took over,

1002
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: so the people that she knew best were Sean Payton

1003
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: and Mickey Loomis. So maybe their stay and Mickey Loomis

1004
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: is still in New Orleans, but their stays were longer

1005
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: because of the ownership situation in Seattle. Maybe it could

1006
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: have been like that because of the passing of Paul Allen,

1007
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: it ends up going to you know, through the estate

1008
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: and his sisters running the team. But the point I

1009
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: bring up is this is it's probably better to do

1010
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: it sooner rather than later. Okay, so for Baltimore in

1011
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: this case, Seattle waited a long time to let go

1012
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: of Pete Carroll, and where Seattle is now with a

1013
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: new head coach and a new energy, and it probably

1014
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: should have happened sooner. But the timing for them now

1015
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: to have Mike McDonald as their head coach, probably that's

1016
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: the way that it had to go. I just I

1017
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: don't see the ultimate reason carry when we look at

1018
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: all these other head coaching changes on the surface and

1019
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: on paper, to be like Hardball's the one that needs

1020
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: to go. And I'm not saying Lamar needs to go either,

1021
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying two years ago this team was

1022
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: in an AFC championship game. Last year they lost a

1023
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: playoff game in Buffalo. Like that, there's Mark Andrews drop.

1024
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 2: What happens to me ends up catches, you know, catching

1025
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: the pass, and things change. And so this year you're

1026
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: on a year where Lamar has been hurt. You haven't

1027
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 2: been afraid to change coordinators. They've had to go through

1028
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: many whether the defensive coordinator, whether it be Mike McDonald

1029
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: Leving or whether a b Rex, Ryan Leving or whoever,

1030
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: of all of the coaches that have been in Baltimore,

1031
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: at least at one point or another, they've been able

1032
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: to turn over that. And they've turned over the offensive

1033
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: coordinator position before. I just was surprised that this was it.

1034
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: And so that's why when you're talking about the messaging

1035
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: coming out, it seems like it was a lot more

1036
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: on the table, and after a long discussion yesterday, the

1037
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: move was ultimately made. But I just never felt that

1038
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens were at this point to let go of

1039
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh because of what we've seen throughout the NFL

1040
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: and what we've seen in other places. And so now

1041
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: that he's out, I think that it's simple, like Lamar Jackson,

1042
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: if this is Lamar Jackson aided, it's got to be

1043
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: careful for what he wished for, oh for sure, because

1044
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: the gress isn't necessarily greener on the other side. And

1045
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: as I used two cliches, he's also lost his shield.

1046
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh was a great shield because if things went wrong, yes,

1047
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: let's blame it on John Harbaugh. It's his fault. It's

1048
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: his fault for bringing in this coordinator, it's his fault

1049
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: for this and that. Now Lamar wins this battle, and

1050
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: with that becomes a lot of responsibility. So now Lamar,

1051
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: now Lamar has to produce. If you're the Ravens quarterback

1052
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: and it's his birthday today, is Chris Purpfett mentioned the

1053
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: theme threw out the show. But now all of this

1054
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: is on Lamar. And that's why I just say, be

1055
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: careful what you wish for, because you may want hardball out,

1056
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: but that may not be better for you as a player.

1057
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think the angle that it's solely Lamar

1058
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 10: wanted them out. I don't think that would be the

1059
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 10: main reason he's gone now. I say that because, yes,

1060
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 10: he is the franchise player. We've seen quarterbacks have that

1061
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 10: ability to you know, get the man they want or

1062
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 10: get rid of the man they don't want. Right, You

1063
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 10: made a great point, like it is it is on

1064
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 10: him now, and I think it was going to be

1065
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 10: on him now anyway. And I think they were kind

1066
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 10: of step in tow they were locked together, you know,

1067
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 10: like you have the head coaches and gms that are

1068
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 10: kind of locked together and one goal with the other

1069
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 10: has to go in this situation, you can't get rid

1070
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 10: of both of them, right, And so all right, if

1071
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 10: you're gonna choose a two time MVP, somebody that you

1072
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 10: still believe in that can get the job done, where

1073
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 10: you had a head coach that got the job done before,

1074
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 10: but as of that moment hasn't gotten back there yet, right,

1075
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 10: and had ample opportunities to get back there. Where in

1076
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 10: a player you talked about it, we've named and we've

1077
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 10: seen plenty emphasis and plenty instances where you know it

1078
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 10: wasn't Lamar's fault. Now, he's been at fault at times

1079
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 10: as well, but in these last couple of years, there's

1080
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 10: been other guys who you know, he's gotten the ball

1081
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 10: to and they fumbled or they've dropped the ball. Right,

1082
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 10: So you have that evidence. In the last couple of

1083
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 10: years where this team has been good and they have

1084
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 10: had their shortcomings, the players on the field have determined

1085
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 10: determined also why they haven't gotten there. But these past

1086
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 10: few years it hasn't been Lamar, and so we can

1087
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 10: remove that part of the you know, the big equation

1088
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 10: here right, Like, he hasn't come up short in those moments.

1089
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 10: So now if we put him at the right person,

1090
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 10: the person that can press the buttons to where you know,

1091
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 10: things matter, the small details matter for us to win,

1092
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 10: it has to come from the head coach. If the

1093
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 10: head coach isn't giving them the right tool, obviously he

1094
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 10: can't get the new hands to catch the ball, but

1095
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 10: like make them understand that there are consequences, consequences if

1096
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 10: you don't show up in the spot, and I don't

1097
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 10: think that was the case in the last couple of

1098
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 10: years with the Ravens.

1099
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 2: Do you do you find it an appealing job if

1100
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: you were a head coaching candidate, Yes, I is it

1101
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: appealing because of Lamar or is it appealing because of

1102
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: the franchise's structure and stability that they've shown throughout I

1103
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: guess it's inception.

1104
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: Both both and you don't you got it, you don't think,

1105
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: so go ahead.

1106
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: I just think with Lamar, who turns twenty nine today,

1107
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: that you're now coming off of another injury season.

1108
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: Yep. And it's not about I think the standard.

1109
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Of Super Bowls gets overblown, but it's the world that

1110
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: we live in, so we end up dealing with it.

1111
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: But there is good to come a time like this

1112
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: season where we saw Lamar couldn't run as well as

1113
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: he did when he was twenty three and twenty four. Absolutely,

1114
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: and so now how does that affect everything else that happens,

1115
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: Like the threat of Lamar Jackson was sometimes worse than

1116
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: what he would actually do because of all of the

1117
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: stuff that he could do on a football field, and

1118
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: he had one of the not this past year, but

1119
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: the year before was maybe I think it's top three,

1120
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: top two best passer season that we've seen. I know

1121
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: it's top five for sure, yeah, for what we've seen.

1122
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: So but that everything comes with that. So Lamar's ability

1123
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: to move the weapons that they have, Derrick Henry that's there,

1124
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: all of that works out, All of that now is

1125
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: kind of erase because it's now just all on Lamar.

1126
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: And so now, at twenty nine years old, which I

1127
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: think he's an older twenty nine than a younger twenty nine,

1128
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the second half of Lamar's career,

1129
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: which is maybe at the point we're at right now,

1130
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: is going to be better at the first half. And

1131
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: so that's the only thing that I would question, Like

1132
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: if I'm Baltimore, there's I'm not taking anybody on the

1133
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: defensive side. I am hiring an offensive head coach.

1134
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1135
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be locked in. And Harbaugh, I

1136
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: guess to his defense, he was more of CEO, right

1137
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 2: because he comes over as a special teams coach. Let

1138
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: the offense do that, let the defense do that. But

1139
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: you have to hire an offensive coach, and you've got

1140
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: to make it work because if it doesn't work, I

1141
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be the fall of the

1142
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: offensive head coach. It's going to go on the shoulders

1143
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: of Lamar, because now we're going to say, look, we

1144
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: fired John Harbaugh after eighteen seasons and one season where

1145
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: sure they finished below five hundred and eight to nine.

1146
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: But that was after you know, back to back playoff

1147
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: appearances and almost a bid to the Super Bowl.

1148
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: So now that's all on Lamar.

1149
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: So that's I just I find it appealing with the stability,

1150
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: and I find it appealing with the talent. But you

1151
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: better win right away, You better win next year, you

1152
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: better win the next year after that, because I just

1153
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: don't think that Lamar is going to continue to get

1154
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: better as a quarterback. There is going to be a

1155
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: slide in his career. And why do you feel that way, Dan,

1156
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: Why do you feel is going to a slide? I know,

1157
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: I know the obvious thing about the moment because he

1158
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: is probably top three the most dynamic quarterback that we

1159
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: have seen in the NFL. Michael Vick is I think

1160
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: I would put I would put up there. He put

1161
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: me on skates, yeah, right right. So, so just the

1162
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: threat of running the football right like that ability, it's

1163
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: going to happen with Josh Allen at some point where

1164
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is not going to be able to run

1165
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 2: as effectively as he has, and you've got to figure

1166
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: out a way to make that make your game be

1167
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: just as dangerous without that, And so that's the point

1168
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: that I look at with Lamar. There there are no

1169
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: questions about passing, there are no questions about running, there

1170
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: are no questions about reading defenses, just none of that.

1171
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: But your athletic ability which made him so dangerous, is

1172
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: not going to be there in your thirties like it

1173
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: was in your twenties, for sure. So that is the

1174
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: reason why. So if defenses don't have to worry about

1175
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Lamar running and breaking off.

1176
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 10: For they're gonna always have to worry abut him run.

1177
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 10: But they're not gonna have to worry about a sixty

1178
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 10: five yard run, no right, no, no, of course not.

1179
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 10: But then they're still gonna have to worry about it.

1180
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 10: It doesn't matter. I mean, we saw him in this

1181
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 10: game last week eighty five what eighty seventy five percent whatever,

1182
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 10: He is always going to be a threat. Like if

1183
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 10: you don't game plan for him and you play man

1184
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 10: and man coverage and you turn your back on Lamar

1185
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 10: Jackson at seventy five percent, he's still going to be

1186
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 10: a threat. And so that's the and that's the thing.

1187
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 10: So it just depends on what length we're talking about.

1188
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 10: And he's healthy next year, so like he's got the offseason,

1189
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 10: so that threat. My point is that threat is there,

1190
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 10: and that's why it's so important for next year for

1191
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 10: there to be success because there are now no more

1192
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 10: excuses because John Harbaugh isn't there. So all of that

1193
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 10: pressure and everything that's on lamar Is is now on

1194
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 10: his shoulders because of this decision. And I think it's

1195
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 10: ultimately the decision that they make, like the Seahawks chose

1196
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 10: Pete Carroll ultimately over Russell Wilson, but it really wasn't that.

1197
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 10: It was They just knew Russell Wilson probably was towards

1198
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 10: the end of his career. They didn't want to pay

1199
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 10: him the money that he was going to demand in

1200
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 10: his next and they shipped him out when they felt

1201
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 10: that they needed to, and it worked out great for him.

1202
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: I got a question that part.

1203
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 10: So in that situation, you thought you thought Pete Carroll's

1204
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 10: voice got I guess old end, and you would rather

1205
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 10: have had Pete Carroll than Russell Wilson at that point.

1206
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: I I don't think that they were tied together like

1207
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: they were with the Ravens. I think that they understood

1208
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: John Schneider and Pete Carroll understood that Russell Wilson was

1209
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: not the same quarterback that he once was. And so

1210
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: at the time, honestly, like when you looked at like

1211
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: when they should have traded Wilson or could have traded him,

1212
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: they maybe could have waited a season to do it,

1213
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: but they did it at the time that they did

1214
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: and were able to get the package that they got

1215
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: from from the Broncos, which was a very very healthy

1216
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: package because I think that they knew that he was

1217
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: going to be damaged to goods after that. Yeah, And what,

1218
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's older than Lamar Jackson as well, So like

1219
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: at the end, at the time of the trade, like

1220
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't Russell Wilson was twenty nine years old. Russell

1221
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Wilson was an older quarterback. But that's the Seahawks made

1222
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: that decision. I think you could still look at Lamar

1223
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: Jackson and say, all right, if he's healthy, he'll be fine,

1224
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: He'll be fine. Yeah, But it's also as the whole

1225
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: of the next five years and what is going on

1226
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: with the Ravens that you look at and say, all right,

1227
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: where are we going to be now, where we're going

1228
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: to be with the next five years, where you hope

1229
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: that the next coach that you hire is going to

1230
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: be there for that span and you're not hiring somebody

1231
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: new in two years. Sure, because if you are, then

1232
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: it was a complete mess in Baltimore, he called it from.

1233
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: The get go. How did you have some Louisville insights

1234
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: on there?

1235
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 9: I will not tell.

1236
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: He will not reveal his sources.