Speaker 1: You know that idea of there are so many women's
Speaker 1: stories who know that have never been told they need
Speaker 1: to be told, and so I guess you know, really
Speaker 1: it was about leaving people feeling with hope. And then
Speaker 1: they say, you know, there's that saying you should never
Speaker 1: meet your heroes and they're gonna disappoint you. But you know,
Speaker 1: the opposite was true. Every every single one of these
Speaker 1: women proved to be even more wonderful in real life.
Speaker 1: That was Dylan McGee and Sarah will Itski, the women
Speaker 1: behind the amazing new film Not Done, Women Remaking America.
Speaker 1: I'm a land Revere and this is Seneca's One Women
Speaker 1: to Hear. We are bringing you one hundred of the
Speaker 1: world's most inspiring and history making women you need to hear.
Speaker 1: The documentary Not Done comes at a moment when the
Speaker 1: world is recognizing the power of women's leadership. Women who
Speaker 1: lead countries are being praise for their handling of COVID,
Speaker 1: and there are more women's CEOs than ever In the
Speaker 1: Fortune five hundred, women's leadership is on full display, and
Speaker 1: Not Done. In dozens of interviews with women leaders, the
Speaker 1: filmmakers show how women are at the forefront of progress
Speaker 1: towards equality and inclusion in a new phase of the
Speaker 1: women's movement. Not Done is a maker's film by Verizon
Speaker 1: Media and McGhee Media, and the film is supported by PNG.
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of sitting down with Not Donne's
Speaker 1: executive producer Dylan McGhee and its director Sarah Willitsky. Listen
Speaker 1: and learn why. Dylan McGee and Sarah Willitsky are two
Speaker 1: of Seneca's Women to hear. Let's start with you, Dylan.
Speaker 1: You are the executive producer of Not Done. It truly
Speaker 1: an incredibly powerful film about the modern women's movement. What
Speaker 1: was your goal in making it? And what did you
Speaker 1: want people to come away with as you were thinking
Speaker 1: about it and doing it? Ah, Milan so many things.
Speaker 1: First of all, Not Done is part of a larger
Speaker 1: brand that I found it called Makers UM. And you
Speaker 1: know Makers really began UM. Just the the quick story
Speaker 1: behind it was that I, you know, my background is
Speaker 1: filmmaking UM and I had done UM a lot of
Speaker 1: films on UM, on white presidential men UM and a
Speaker 1: lot of African American history, but I hadn't really done
Speaker 1: anything that that was you know about my story UM anyway,
Speaker 1: So one stop shopping. I thought, well, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: something on women and I'm going to go to Gloria
Speaker 1: Steinham and I got HBO, but him me and we
Speaker 1: went to Gloria Steinham and we said, we're going to
Speaker 1: do a film in your Life for HBO and she
Speaker 1: said no. Um, she said, you know, you can't tell
Speaker 1: the story of the women's movement through the story of
Speaker 1: one person. And that sort of changed everything for me.
Speaker 1: You know, that idea of there are so many women's
Speaker 1: stories who you know that have never been told, that
Speaker 1: need to be told. And so, you know, makers really
Speaker 1: started with a mission to tell and document an archive
Speaker 1: women's stories. Um. And when we started, we actually did
Speaker 1: a hundred interviews. Short form YouTube had just started, and
Speaker 1: we did these short form videos on groundbreaking women from
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey and Hillary Clinton to you know, some of
Speaker 1: the first female firefighters in New York City, so the
Speaker 1: known and unknown, and then that was and then we
Speaker 1: did we used those hundred interviews to tell the story
Speaker 1: of the modern American women's movement from the nineteen sixties
Speaker 1: and Betty for Dance, feminine mystique all the way up
Speaker 1: to uh Cheryl Sandberg's Lenin had just come out, So
Speaker 1: it was this story we we'd like to say it's
Speaker 1: a documentary and reverse, but it was. So it was
Speaker 1: the story of the modern women's movement. And then you know,
Speaker 1: Sarah has been a part of all of these and um,
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like from where we left off
Speaker 1: to you know, let's say, from you know, the last
Speaker 1: election to today, so much had happened in the women's
Speaker 1: movement and we wanted to so if the original documentary
Speaker 1: is three hours, we felt like, let's let's add an hour,
Speaker 1: you know, let's do uh, let's do a series that
Speaker 1: really shows how the women's movement has been invigorated in
Speaker 1: many ways. It's so it's been so different, uh, in
Speaker 1: the past five years. Um. And so really that was
Speaker 1: the vision behind it. It was it was telling today's history.
Speaker 1: And and and I think you said, you know what
Speaker 1: do we want people to leave thinking and doing? And
Speaker 1: one of the hard things about tell in history that's
Speaker 1: happening as you're living it is that there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of perspective. It's like, all these things are happening
Speaker 1: and you're like, are they linked? But I think you
Speaker 1: know what Sarah did so brilliantly in directing this film,
Speaker 1: is that she showed, you know, there there is this
Speaker 1: progression and there is this hope when you see you
Speaker 1: know how the Women's March leads into me too, and
Speaker 1: then times up gets created and then there's this ripple
Speaker 1: effect in the elections. You know, you just see these
Speaker 1: that every action has a purpose, And so I guess
Speaker 1: you know, really it was about leaving people feeling with hope.
Speaker 1: Well that's always a good feeling to leave people with,
Speaker 1: particularly these days. But I wanted to ask Sarah, given
Speaker 1: the passion that Dylan just expressed in what's been happening
Speaker 1: in the movement today? I mean, it's been a time
Speaker 1: of extraordinary achievement in many ways and finally making a
Speaker 1: difference on so many issues. But let's not forget your
Speaker 1: film came out in a year when we're celebrating a
Speaker 1: hundred years of women's suffrage. So how did the suffrage
Speaker 1: movement help shape your thinking? Because obviously we're still on
Speaker 1: this journey together and I love the title because we
Speaker 1: are not done, And I think that should be your motto.
Speaker 1: You've been you've been telling us that for a long time. Well, so,
Speaker 1: so back to the suffrage movement. How did that influence Uh,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about the film, Sarah, Um, and what else
Speaker 1: was an influence on you? We heard from Dylan. Now
Speaker 1: let's hear your side. Yeah. Well, you know, we we
Speaker 1: were very much aware that you know, we were making
Speaker 1: it in the hundredth anniversary of the nineteenth Amendment. Uh
Speaker 1: and and in some ways that that was probably a
Speaker 1: good peg for us getting funding and um, you know,
Speaker 1: and and getting some interest in it being made. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's ultimately the films on about suffrage. But
Speaker 1: I think that was a good sort of anchor point
Speaker 1: for us in terms of, you know, being really conscious
Speaker 1: of how long this change takes to make and knowing
Speaker 1: that you know, people were working for suffrage for a
Speaker 1: hundred years before suffrage and then here we were a
Speaker 1: hundred years later. Um and uh, well now we've just
Speaker 1: gotten our first female vice president. But you know, um
Speaker 1: that there We've a lot had changed, but you know,
Speaker 1: there were still so many problems that women were wrestling with.
Speaker 1: It in some ways are more nuanced, right because they're
Speaker 1: not as obvious as um as just not having the
Speaker 1: right to vote. Um. But that in some ways that
Speaker 1: makes them even more intractable. UM, and that UM, thinking
Speaker 1: about that history and women who just had that perseverance
Speaker 1: to keep fighting and recognize that we're not done exactly
Speaker 1: and have to keep working for it. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, another way that that definitely packed us is
Speaker 1: also thinking about you know, we say the hundredth anniversary
Speaker 1: women getting the right to vote, but you know, really
Speaker 1: it was the hundredth anniversary of mostly white women getting
Speaker 1: the right to vote, right, and it took another forty
Speaker 1: five years for um, black women to be more included
Speaker 1: in that. And also keeping in mind, you know, as
Speaker 1: we know more of the history of the suffrage UM
Speaker 1: suffrage movement, that there was a lot of tension around um,
Speaker 1: you know, uh black women in that movement and uh,
Speaker 1: and kind of thinking about the women's movement and the
Speaker 1: evolution from then to now, UM, and kind of seeing
Speaker 1: the last few years as hopefully a stage that has
Speaker 1: finally become a more intersectional movement. UM. You know, no
Speaker 1: movement as perfect as Trees Colors says in our film,
Speaker 1: but the promise was a more intersectional movement, and so
Speaker 1: it was really important to us include especially in thinking
Speaker 1: about it as you know, this hundred anniversary to be
Speaker 1: making a film that represented that, um and that you know,
Speaker 1: didn't take as its starting point. Um that this has
Speaker 1: always been a perfect and diverse movement. But UM, but
Speaker 1: looking at how the you know, the face of the
Speaker 1: movement is changing now and so some of you know,
Speaker 1: some of our startings to my starting points and influences.
Speaker 1: Was also like rereading Audrey Lord and uh, Brandy Cooper's
Speaker 1: wonderful more recent book Um Eloquent Rage Um or Rebecca
Speaker 1: Traycer's wonderful book UM, Good and Mad and you know,
Speaker 1: which has a lot of that great history and contemporary history.
Speaker 1: So you created this incredible tapestry, some of which you
Speaker 1: just described. And Dylan, I'm going to ask you next.
Speaker 1: Not Done came out on PBS in late October, and
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how was it received and was it what
Speaker 1: you expected? On Asleep Milan, I think it was better
Speaker 1: than I expected. That's always good. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I always go you know, I think you go into
Speaker 1: these films with knots in your stomach of how it's
Speaker 1: going to be received by the public. And honestly, I
Speaker 1: felt a real sense of confidence on that part. I
Speaker 1: think Sarah did such a brilliant job of you know,
Speaker 1: again producing while you're living. It is very hard and
Speaker 1: finding this this thread of you know, the power of
Speaker 1: organizing and the intersectionality and the movement. I felt so
Speaker 1: proud of this film going into it. But you know
Speaker 1: this as someone who has been fighting this fight for
Speaker 1: a long time. So many incredible women work every day,
Speaker 1: so many of us are driven by this feeling of
Speaker 1: not being done. There are there is so much that
Speaker 1: has happened just in the last five years. I mean,
Speaker 1: with this film could have been it's you know, another
Speaker 1: three hours like our original three hours. So I was
Speaker 1: actually most nervous about how women who have been fighting
Speaker 1: this fight we're going to feel if their story wasn't
Speaker 1: represented in this um And you know how people how
Speaker 1: would be amazing women's soccer team that worked so hard,
Speaker 1: you know, and for fighting for equal pay. You know
Speaker 1: that wasn't in it. Uh, the incredible next generation of
Speaker 1: you know, the Greta's and you know, we we do
Speaker 1: briefly cover a young activist Kakata Iron Eyes and who's amazing,
Speaker 1: but you know, we really didn't get into the excitement
Speaker 1: of the next generation. So I was just focused on
Speaker 1: what was missing and what we're you know, so what
Speaker 1: were people going to say about that? And what again
Speaker 1: the power of women and you know, our unity as
Speaker 1: a sisterhood. People really said. It wasn't oh you forgot this,
Speaker 1: you forgot this? It was how can I help? How
Speaker 1: can I get this out into the world. And so
Speaker 1: I think that sort of warmed my heart the most.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I got a couple
Speaker 1: of emails. They're always a few couple call outs, but
Speaker 1: you know, I think people are feeling there's just a
Speaker 1: sense of it's you know, we were living through a
Speaker 1: lot right now and people are feeling helpless. And I
Speaker 1: do think just people were able to see the you
Speaker 1: know force through the treats that there's there is. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it restored some hope, as I said earlier,
Speaker 1: and when we come together we can clearly make a difference. Yes,
Speaker 1: very much. That's a big theme in the film. So,
Speaker 1: as both of you have said, Dylan starting out talked
Speaker 1: about Gloria Steynham and Sarah you mentioned a few of
Speaker 1: the other notables. Uh, the film is amazing in many ways,
Speaker 1: but it does have an extraordinary cast of women of achievement,
Speaker 1: who are part of this extory ordinary movement? Um, and
Speaker 1: you spot light them and it's a very impressive list,
Speaker 1: and I wonder sometimes it's like asking who is your
Speaker 1: favorite child. It's not a fair question, but of all
Speaker 1: the women, UM, I want to ask both of you
Speaker 1: this who were the most memorable? Perhaps in different ways.
Speaker 1: Well that, as you say, that is an unfair question,
Speaker 1: is like your favorite children, and it it you know,
Speaker 1: this film is like the cast as you would say,
Speaker 1: is you know personal heroes list of mine and they say,
Speaker 1: you know that there's that saying you should never meet
Speaker 1: your heroes and they're gonna disappoint you. But you know,
Speaker 1: the opposite was true. Every every single one of these
Speaker 1: women proved to be even more wonderful in real life.
Speaker 1: So it's very hard to say. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: as a as a TV kid, meeting people like Shonda
Speaker 1: Rhimes and her being so normal and wonderful as a thrill. Um.
Speaker 1: You know it's I think that what sort of stood
Speaker 1: out to me on the overall is um it was
Speaker 1: sort of the bookends of the first shoot and our
Speaker 1: last shoot, or at least I should say our first
Speaker 1: in person shoot and last in person shoot because we
Speaker 1: did do a couple remote interviews when we got into
Speaker 1: the covid Um period of time. But so you know there,
Speaker 1: our very first shoot day was centered around UM Kimberly Crunshaw,
Speaker 1: who is just uh, you know, lifelong incredible feminist and
Speaker 1: civil rights scholar and lawyer, UM and who is the
Speaker 1: person who actually coined the word intersectionality way back at
Speaker 1: the end of the eighties. And so for her to
Speaker 1: be the first and then the last shooting day involved
Speaker 1: a Glorious Steinham who obviously you can't get better than
Speaker 1: that UM and a Dylan mentioned her before. But Jakada
Speaker 1: iron Eyes, who we couldn't tell her full story in
Speaker 1: the film, but she's m a young climate justice and
Speaker 1: indigenous activist, was a big part of this Standing Rock
Speaker 1: protests UM in sixteen. And you know, so after Gloria Steina,
Speaker 1: the bar set pretty high. But she just came in
Speaker 1: and floored our entire crew, you know, like she's totally
Speaker 1: typical gigly sixteen year old and then you know, just
Speaker 1: sat down for an interview and was like, I she
Speaker 1: can't even say wise beyond her years because she was
Speaker 1: much smarter than most of the adults I've ever I've
Speaker 1: ever met, but I just left us with us a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of hope that, um, if if young women
Speaker 1: like her or even her alone, are are you know,
Speaker 1: leading this next generation, and then we're going to be
Speaker 1: okay because they get it much more than then you know,
Speaker 1: the adults in the room. I you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a little more. Uh. You know, they
Speaker 1: are all of our favorite children, and of course we
Speaker 1: love them all. But there is, um, there is a
Speaker 1: moment in the in the film. I'm a big, big,
Speaker 1: big fan girl of Britney Cooper, who Sarah mentioned is
Speaker 1: a black scholar and has written this amazing book, Eloquent Rage. Um.
Speaker 1: That's sort of a coming of age of and finding
Speaker 1: her black feminism. Um. And she's a professor at Rutgers,
Speaker 1: and she is you know, one of the things. You know,
Speaker 1: we we made this film in the middle we were
Speaker 1: almost I would say what Sarah done. When COVID happened.
Speaker 1: Our air date was supposed to be in June and
Speaker 1: we had to completely adapt, and so we did do
Speaker 1: a couple of our story had to change, and um,
Speaker 1: Brittany came in and we did a remote one of
Speaker 1: our two I think it was two remote interviews, and um,
Speaker 1: she just lights up the screen. And one of the things,
Speaker 1: one of the moments in the film that I love
Speaker 1: is she starts talking about UM Olivia Pope and Scandal,
Speaker 1: you know, Shonda Rhymes is UM series and how she
Speaker 1: and her friends would gather and they would tweet with
Speaker 1: each other, and it was so exciting to watch this
Speaker 1: um black female lead who was you know, fully complex character, UM,
Speaker 1: and how is a game changer for her, you know,
Speaker 1: and all her friends. And I just you know that
Speaker 1: that idea I think black women, you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's a line in that I can't remember who says it,
Speaker 1: but you know, like black women are really rocking it
Speaker 1: entertaining to Atlicia Garza. Yeah, and uh and and I
Speaker 1: think this story of representation obviously matters so much. And
Speaker 1: and honestly, I just can't help myself but mentioned that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're this is our Our film was supported
Speaker 1: by Proper and Gamble who and they're doing all this
Speaker 1: incredible unapologetic work. UM it really ending gender bias and
Speaker 1: came behind, you know, got behind this film in such
Speaker 1: a powerful way. And it's you know, brands like that,
Speaker 1: and you know this seeing is believing, right, So when
Speaker 1: you can see yourself up on the screen, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it changes everything. I mean, look at look at Kamala.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I feel for all those you know,
Speaker 1: like those young girls out there who can now see
Speaker 1: themselves as um a vice president. So that's just a
Speaker 1: really powerful moment for me and I love pretty good
Speaker 1: well that that's well said, and I and salute to
Speaker 1: a PNG as well, because we see equal is certainly
Speaker 1: something that they have really put forward in a very
Speaker 1: serious way, and we're all indebted to the company for
Speaker 1: its extraordinary example in this space. I think senecas one
Speaker 1: hundred Women to hear will be back after the short break,
Speaker 1: so that women are clearly memorable to both of you
Speaker 1: and will continue to be. Was there a particular lesson
Speaker 1: that I can ask each of you that you took
Speaker 1: from from the work as a whole or from anyone individual. Well, I'm,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you have me thinking now about being
Speaker 1: you know, on set and doing these interviews, and I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that I think it was
Speaker 1: maybe a little surprised actually that came through so strongly
Speaker 1: with all of these incredible women we were talking to,
Speaker 1: whether in some ways, whether it was you know, Jodi
Speaker 1: Cantor and Megan Tooey at the New York Times, or
Speaker 1: you know, these veteran activists like um Linda stars Or
Speaker 1: who helped organize the you know, First Women's March, is
Speaker 1: one of the co chairs or Treats Colors who I mentioned,
Speaker 1: who's one of the founder of Black Lives Matter, And
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, especially the activists are women who
Speaker 1: are involved in these really difficult struggles and ah, but
Speaker 1: they were so such joyful people and so clearly you know,
Speaker 1: motivated out of love and community. And you know, I think,
Speaker 1: and you know, anger is present for all of these women,
Speaker 1: and you know, outrage and anger definitely useful emotions and
Speaker 1: can spark a lot of useful UM activism and confuel
Speaker 1: people to an extent. But it really was really clear
Speaker 1: that it was it was joy and sisterhood or siblinghood
Speaker 1: that was necessary to kind of whether the inevitable setbacks
Speaker 1: and frustrations that you know, you have as you're trying
Speaker 1: to make change. UM. And so I think in person
Speaker 1: and then and then in the sort of when we
Speaker 1: step back and we're making the film. You know. UM.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things, as you mentioned before Milanny,
Speaker 1: that really really came through was UM. You know how
Speaker 1: important that that power of sisterhood ultimately is UM in
Speaker 1: terms of sustaining UM any of the fight that you
Speaker 1: know needs to be sustained if we ever really do
Speaker 1: make change. I think that's a wonderful lesson Sarah for
Speaker 1: all of us at Sally to think about, Dylan, how
Speaker 1: about you. My lesson really came more off the screen.
Speaker 1: I think it's UH believing in women actually making the
Speaker 1: film UM pays and dividends. You know, it's another sisterhood.
Speaker 1: Sarah is a first time director and she was given
Speaker 1: a chance and she took that baton and she ran
Speaker 1: with it. And I mean the first film out of
Speaker 1: the Gates in its extraordinary, And you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's we have to do representation externally and we
Speaker 1: also have to be very intentional. UM. You know our
Speaker 1: crew UH was majority women. UM and UH. You know again,
Speaker 1: another brand that we need to be grateful for is
Speaker 1: Verizon because it was the Verizon Future Fund that allowed
Speaker 1: us to hire Sarah. You know, they're investing in UM
Speaker 1: merging artists and technology and and entertainment. And it's it's
Speaker 1: again when you can give someone an opportunity and UM
Speaker 1: and watch them all grow that UM, it pays off. So,
Speaker 1: you know, trusting and believing and being intentional around getting
Speaker 1: women behind the tree. I think in nineteen there were
Speaker 1: only something like I don't have the exact statistic book
Speaker 1: of UM female directors directed the top one grossing films
Speaker 1: and and I think there's only been one woman so far.
Speaker 1: Who was you know, one UM an Academy Award for
Speaker 1: Best Director. So uh so my lesson learned is, you know,
Speaker 1: keep pushing, keep getting more women behind the camera. And
Speaker 1: Delan you should explain it was not just me, but
Speaker 1: we made this film with the almost exclusively female crew
Speaker 1: you know above the line and below the line as
Speaker 1: they say, so you know on our sets, the camera
Speaker 1: woman or their cinematographer, our sound person or gaffer grip,
Speaker 1: everybody you know, UM, everybody around UM was either female
Speaker 1: or non binary. And UM you know also on our
Speaker 1: production team and are incredible producer Ali Moss and our
Speaker 1: editor Madriana Pacheco, and UM, you know it was it
Speaker 1: was an exceptional experience. You know, we're working with Dylan
Speaker 1: and at makers on the Mickey Media. We've already have
Speaker 1: you know, have moved to a at least fifty fifty
Speaker 1: year predominantly female UM teams. But this was a special
Speaker 1: one that we decided to really commit to UM to
Speaker 1: being almost you know, exclusively UM female, UM or non binary.
Speaker 1: And Jana shout out honestly to the maker's men, right,
Speaker 1: because that makes a difference to you know, Mark Portard
Speaker 1: at PNG, Diego Scottie at Verizon, like you know, they
Speaker 1: became our maker's men who you know, helped push this
Speaker 1: forward and allowed us to make our dreams come true.
Speaker 1: We do need our male allies and absolutely, but Sarah,
Speaker 1: kudos to you for your your first venture here being
Speaker 1: so successful. What would you like to do next? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What's the next film? I don't have I don't have
Speaker 1: a great answer yet. There are you know, lots of
Speaker 1: things UM. I mean one of the things that you
Speaker 1: know this film I've taught us and Dylan mentioned this already,
Speaker 1: is that you know, there were so much that we
Speaker 1: couldn't fit into this film or the stories actually that
Speaker 1: we did tell in the film, each one of them
Speaker 1: could have been their own. You know future length film. UM,
Speaker 1: so you know, they're just I think there's so many, UM,
Speaker 1: there's so many stories, especially um women's stories that need
Speaker 1: to be told and that you know, there's been such
Speaker 1: an imbalance for for hundreds of years now, UM in
Speaker 1: the arts and in storytelling around you know, male centered
Speaker 1: um stories that it's going to take a while to
Speaker 1: um you know, tip it back. UM. So I there's
Speaker 1: some things bubbling. I can't give an exact answer yet,
Speaker 1: but well, that's perfectly fine. As the title of the
Speaker 1: film says, you know, we're we're not done, and one
Speaker 1: of the ways we're not done is in telling a
Speaker 1: lot more women's stories. Well, as I said at the outset,
Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect title, perfect title for the movement.
Speaker 1: And I think realizing it's not done, let me ask
Speaker 1: what makes both of you optimistic about the future. Will
Speaker 1: we get it done? We still on a long road
Speaker 1: to achieving gender equality. So how do you see it
Speaker 1: from your vantage point? Well, I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you know, I think we see in
Speaker 1: the film and that we've talked about make me hopeful.
Speaker 1: The amount of people you know back in the streets,
Speaker 1: glorious kind of the tests that she's never seen as
Speaker 1: much activism, you know, in her life, and that's hopeful.
Speaker 1: I think seeing um, the country willing to elact our
Speaker 1: first female vice president and a woman of color at
Speaker 1: that makes me hopeful. UM. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I had the chance to do this really wonderful. Um.
Speaker 1: The only time, in fact, I've been able to we've
Speaker 1: been able to screen the film in person. Was this
Speaker 1: like a block party that my cousin's wonderful Block Association
Speaker 1: and Harlem hosted the other week. Uh you know, so
Speaker 1: there was just a handful of people outside with an
Speaker 1: outdoor projector, but there were amongst the pretty diverse group
Speaker 1: of ages and people watching the film or you know,
Speaker 1: two young boys, maybe around ten years old, who remarkably
Speaker 1: sat pretty glued in their seats for um, you know,
Speaker 1: most of the hour. So I think seeing you know,
Speaker 1: boys honestly at that age absorbed this and thinking about
Speaker 1: a younger generation who you know, hopefully will grow up
Speaker 1: with a lot of this, just being common sense, UM
Speaker 1: and and being curious. You know, I think that's there's
Speaker 1: so many ways that it's important that um, you know,
Speaker 1: we have male allies and that they're able to also
Speaker 1: have their own gender revolution. But but you know, I
Speaker 1: think it all starts with that curiosity and openness. And
Speaker 1: I am encouraged that. Um that you know that even
Speaker 1: very young generation is growing up in that way. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll build on that. I have to sons sixteen and eighteen,
Speaker 1: two little feminist boys, or they're not boys anymore, their
Speaker 1: men um and Uh. While there are a lot of
Speaker 1: feminist jokes that go on in our hustled believe me,
Speaker 1: I don't get. I get. I get the benefits of
Speaker 1: these incredible young men. Uh. And I also get the
Speaker 1: brunt of them growing up in a feminist household. Um.
Speaker 1: But actually watching this election as complicated as it was
Speaker 1: as um, I think their generation was engaged in politics
Speaker 1: and understanding the shoes and a way that I never
Speaker 1: was when I was in high school and early college.
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm hopeful, um In I'm hopeful in
Speaker 1: those that next generation of of of being engaged. Well,
Speaker 1: that's good reason to be hopeful. And let me ask,
Speaker 1: how can anyone of our listeners get to see Not Done?
Speaker 1: So listeners can go to Not Done film dot Com,
Speaker 1: where it's available. It's also available on PBS dot org
Speaker 1: for a couple more weeks, Um, and Uh, you can
Speaker 1: also find it at makers dot com. Okay, well those
Speaker 1: are three good options. Uh. And I can't thank you
Speaker 1: both enough, not just for this wonderful conversation, Dylan McGee
Speaker 1: and Sarah Willinski, but for what you have come together
Speaker 1: to create Not Done. A powerful film, and we encourage
Speaker 1: everybody listening to take it in. Thank you both, Thank you, Milan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, so inspiring. We can learn so
Speaker 1: much from the women creating change all around us. Here
Speaker 1: are just a few of the points I took from
Speaker 1: the conversation. First, women's leadership is powerful, and women working
Speaker 1: together are unstoppable. They can help create that progress that
Speaker 1: leads to equality. Second, women's voices need to be heard
Speaker 1: and women's perspectives need to be seen. When we put
Speaker 1: women behind the camera as directors, writers, and cinematographers, we
Speaker 1: can see things in a fresh new way, and finally,
Speaker 1: to see just how impactful that vision can be. Watch
Speaker 1: the new documentary Not Done. Go to Nut Done film
Speaker 1: dot com or makers dot com. It is also available
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