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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. Thanks for being here

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Speaker 1: with us as we speak to you, some very interesting

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Speaker 1: exchanges going on upon Capitol Hill. R FK Junior, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's nominee to b Secretary of Health and Human Services,

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Speaker 1: a massive entity with enormous funding and a very big mission,

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Speaker 1: a very big mandate. Donald Trump nominee RFK Junior getting

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Speaker 1: pretty favorable treatment from Republicans and Democrats are really going

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Speaker 1: after him. We will dive into that momentarily because I

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Speaker 1: think that's a big, a big deal. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: that comes together there, everything from how COVID was handled,

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Speaker 1: to vaccines, to Medicare and Medicaid, and the state of

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Speaker 1: America's health which is on the whole poor, and it's

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Speaker 1: certainly worth trying to figure out why that is. So

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Speaker 1: we will dive into all of this, my friends. This

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Speaker 1: is absolutely top of the agenda. We also have a

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Speaker 1: very interesting proposal put forward by the Trump White House

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Speaker 1: offering federal employees a buyout essentially extended severance of almost

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Speaker 1: eight months if they are willing to just walk away,

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Speaker 1: essentially telling the federal workforce Look, if you're not really

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Speaker 1: doing anything, don't make us come find you and fire you.

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Speaker 1: Better for you to just take the eight months and

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Speaker 1: go do something else. And everybody's happy, especially the taxpayer

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Speaker 1: who's no longer carrying this weight of the expense of

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Speaker 1: these people that are not really doing anything. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think we should jump right into with the RFK

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Speaker 1: junior hearing. We haven't seen what they've said to Tulca yet.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen what they have done with Hotel that's

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Speaker 1: coming up. I had thought this would be the most

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Speaker 1: contentious of the nominations that would happen this week. It

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Speaker 1: started out, we don't have to play this a bunch

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Speaker 1: of protesters yelling protesters that do this stuff for idiots.

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Speaker 1: But here, let's just start play with it. This is

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Speaker 1: cut ten. This is kind of the baseline for what's

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Speaker 1: going on here. RFK juniors coming in with a mandate

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Speaker 1: to address the state of America's health play cut ten

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Speaker 1: and will dive in the United.

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Speaker 2: States has worse health than any other developed nation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we spend more on healthcare, at least double and in

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Speaker 2: some cases triple as other countries. Last year, we spend

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Speaker 2: four point eight trillion, not counting the indirect cause of

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Speaker 2: missed work. That's almost a fifth a fifth of GDP.

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Speaker 2: It is tanamount to a twenty percent tax on the

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Speaker 2: tire economy. No wonder America has trouble competing with countries

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Speaker 2: that pay of what we do for health and have

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Speaker 2: better outcomes and a healthier workforce. And I don't want

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Speaker 2: to make this too much about money. It's the human

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Speaker 1: Clay, there is something. There are a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that need to be addressed that are malfunctioning with our health,

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Speaker 1: not just our healthcare system, as in a lot of

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Speaker 1: money going to a lot of places in a little

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Speaker 1: car that says at some point maybe you'll get to

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Speaker 1: see a doctor. But the way that we address and

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Speaker 1: approach health as a country is something that needs an overhaul.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting to see how many Democrats are all

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's just that buck, it's that

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Speaker 3: until about six months ago, RFK Junior was one of

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Speaker 3: the most prominent Democrats from the most prominent Democrat family,

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Speaker 3: maybe other than the Clintons right now, but I think

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Speaker 3: even bigger than the Clintons and the Obamas, and it

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Speaker 3: is indicative of a reflexive anti Trump disposition where even

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Speaker 3: when you pick someone like RFK Junior, who has been

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Speaker 3: a lifelong Democrat and has I think it's fair to

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Speaker 3: say many opinions that are the antithesis of what a

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Speaker 3: lot of Republican voters believe. In other words, this is

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Speaker 3: a guy with a wildly divergent background relative to most

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Speaker 3: Republican Cabinet picks in any of our lives. Yet Democrats

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Speaker 3: And I think it's just for many people out there,

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Speaker 3: a reflection of the existing tribalism that RFK Junior is

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Speaker 3: unable to get any kind of Democrats support at all,

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Speaker 3: despite the fact is he's seventy four. For seventy three

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Speaker 3: and a half years, he's been a card carrying member

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Speaker 3: would have for him prior to endorsing Trump, what was

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Speaker 3: My point on all this is, this should be a

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Speaker 3: guy that gets eighty votes. I mean, this shouldn't even

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Speaker 3: be remotely a difficult confirmation process. He should be a

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Speaker 3: because he has been, as you pointed out, not on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. We should be very straightforward about this.

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Speaker 1: In the past, RFK Junior has said really dumb and

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Speaker 1: really bad things, many of them, too many of them

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Speaker 1: for me to recount. For all of you and anyone

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Speaker 1: who doubts me, I don't know. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: NRA is a terrorist organization? Because he did. He did.

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Speaker 1: He has repudiated these comments. He has said he does

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Speaker 1: not believe this anymore. Donald Trump at different points was

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Speaker 1: So I think we're in an era now where if

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Speaker 1: I don't want us to run away from that. Not

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Speaker 1: only was RFKA Junior a Democrat, RFK Junior was somebody

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Speaker 1: who took some very radical left positions, including if you're

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Speaker 1: not on board for climate change, you're a trader. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody who believes in climate change as an

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Speaker 1: existential threat is all that smart. But RFK Junior figured

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Speaker 1: that out. So I'll give him a pass on that.

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Speaker 1: There are some things he has been and some of

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Speaker 1: you might get annoyed at hearing this. This is just

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Speaker 1: fact right. Some things he's been very wrong on when

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Speaker 1: he was a Democrat Clay, but he has had a

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Speaker 1: red pill moment perhaps, I don't know how we want

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Speaker 1: to phrase it. He has changed, he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: He has a specific mission set that he wants to

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Speaker 1: accomplish for Donald Trump. Maha we are calling it. And

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Speaker 1: I think to that end he can be a very useful,

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Speaker 1: very useful implementur of Trump policy and vision. He was

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Speaker 1: right about COVID, he was right about Fauci, and he

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Speaker 1: was okay on COVID. He was much better on Fauci.

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Speaker 1: But that's many people out there that is enough. My

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Speaker 1: point on it is, I would understand if thirty five

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Speaker 1: Republicans said, hey, we're on board with RFK Junior, but

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Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen said we're not right Like I mean

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Speaker 1: specifically he liked lockdowns because of the change in CO

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Speaker 1: saw some very big things. I'm again balls and strikes here, folks.

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Speaker 1: I think RFK should be confirmed for this role. But

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Speaker 1: I can understand why some people have some questions about

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Speaker 1: what he said in the past.

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Speaker 3: The fact that right now are there any Democrats that

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Speaker 3: To me, this should be a bipartisan choice, because I

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Speaker 3: don't think that RFK Junior is actually a radical ideologue

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Speaker 3: committed to either party. Well, he's kind of radical on

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Speaker 3: some of the health issues, and he has he has

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Speaker 3: switched teams, right, so it's not surprising to me that

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Speaker 3: Democrats aren't on board with him. Clay, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: The most famous still living Kennedy is a Republican is

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Speaker 1: something of a slap in the face to Democrats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's all these different levels that intersect with R. F. K. Junior.

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Speaker 1: There's the Trump component, which which you mentioned, which is true,

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Speaker 1: which is just Trump for him, Democrats against him. That's

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Speaker 1: very straightforward, yes, But there's also the longer political separation

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Speaker 1: of this is a very famous legacy Democrat who has

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Speaker 1: HHS secretary. So the Democrat opposition, you know, again, I

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Speaker 1: despise I mean, I've been watching the questioning all morning.

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Speaker 1: That's why I've been sort of fired up on this.

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Speaker 1: They despise him, Clay, I mean, they actively loathe him,

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Speaker 3: Going to be confirmed. But this to me, has become

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Speaker 3: the battleground. Now we got hag set across fifty to

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Speaker 3: former Democrats which has really got it crazy to think about.

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Speaker 3: Trump is a former Democrat who has nominated two former

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Speaker 3: And those are the ones that are in the most

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Speaker 1: You know. Within I will say, at least radical Islam,

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Speaker 1: the penalty for apostasy, meaning leaving the religion, is death.

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Speaker 1: The apostasy in politics is something that people also punish severely,

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Speaker 1: at least politically speaking. And see you're saying he used

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Speaker 1: How could they have turned so much now if it's

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Speaker 1: really about what he believes. Of course, as we both know,

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Speaker 1: as everyone knows, it's not right. This is about power,

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people are pointing out, well, these

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Speaker 1: Democrats have gotten money from big farm. True democrats are

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Speaker 1: Corporation's true all that, But you know, there's all these

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Speaker 1: interesting hearing to watch because to your point, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he says he's not gonna stop anybody from getting a

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Speaker 3: I also think, and this is something that I bet

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Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners are really on top of

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Speaker 3: it's hard to know what really I mean. There are

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Speaker 3: rough outlines like don't eat a ton of sugar, exercise,

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Speaker 3: recognize are generally health related things, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You probably know.

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Speaker 3: More than I do, Like I don't know, for instance,

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Speaker 3: what vitamins I should be taking, or I feel like

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Speaker 1: All right, So, it is amazing to see how many

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Speaker 3: What percentage of our audience right now, some of them

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest it.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you're sixty two and you've been in a

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Speaker 3: How many of you would like this opportunity? I just

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Speaker 3: lot of people were in the service, they leave. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that Truman and Eisenhower the number of federal employees

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Speaker 3: probably declined as a result of that. But I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about someone in a time of peace who came in

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Speaker 3: and ten percent of the federal employees left. And again,

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Speaker 3: this is something that actually DC's mayors in favor of

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Speaker 1: It's not the part is the decision. It's a good one. Well,

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Speaker 1: she wants them back for very clear economic reasons. For

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's not that she's all of a sudden against government spending.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But my point is, if you just look at this,

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Speaker 3: is it unacceptable if you're a private employee, if you

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Speaker 3: got an email offering you nine months of pay to

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Speaker 3: this is an unbelievable outrage. That's what they're trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, the mentality, I've said this before to you, Clay,

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Speaker 1: when I was at the CIA, the State Department, Joe,

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Speaker 1: was that presidents come and go, but the department, meaning

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Speaker 1: the State depress is forever. That is very much the

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Speaker 1: it so that there's very little that you have to

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Speaker 1: actually do in order to keep those jobs. It's in fact,

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Speaker 1: I used to say at the CIA, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, the eighty twenty rule applies, which is that

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Speaker 1: of the people. Excellence is suspicious or excellence is suspect,

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Speaker 1: meaning if you try to do more or better, if

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Speaker 1: you aren't encouraged. You're told to sort of sit down,

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Speaker 1: shut up, and wait your turn. This is the culture

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Speaker 1: of these places. And when you look at someone like

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior, he's going to be if he gets confirmed,

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Speaker 1: which I think we all believe he will, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be taking over AGHS Health and Human Services. Clay

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Speaker 1: Health in Human Services has over eighty thousand employees. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Are they all doing now? Somebody might have an answer

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Speaker 1: for that. Oh, they're administering Medicare and Medicaid and all

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Speaker 1: these different Okay, but do we really need eight thousand

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Speaker 1: people doing this? Are they doing it well? Does anybody

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Speaker 1: even know? Could anyone even tell me off the top

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Speaker 1: of their head what the biggest non military employer in

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Speaker 1: the federal government is. I mean, you start to think

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Speaker 1: about this stuff. The Leviathan is so big we can't

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Speaker 1: even see the head of the tail. Remember Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: fired seventy five or eighty percent of Twitter. That's a

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Speaker 1: for profit company, buck, and it actually seems to work

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Speaker 1: I really do believe if we fired seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: the twenty five percent remaining, which would save us right

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Speaker 1: about half, I don't think we would see any difference

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Speaker 1: at all in the overall effectiveness of the federal government.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's remarkable. You see some of there

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Speaker 1: where these people are are employed, right, you know, Agriculture, HHS, Treasure, Treasury, Defense,

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Speaker 1: And then you speak to somebody the VA. The VA

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Speaker 1: is huge. You speak to somebody who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's basically socialized medicine, but only for members of the

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Speaker 1: military and the VA. I'll be honest, I've heard, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into this right now because

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Speaker 1: our phones will be lit up for three hours. You know,

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Speaker 1: some veterans say it's okay sometimes and there's some good

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Speaker 1: care that gotten. Other veterans tell me it's absolutely nightmare.

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Speaker 1: So you know, like any large system, I think there

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Speaker 1: are people that have differing opinions on it, but overall

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Speaker 1: it needs to be a lot better than it is. Clay,

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Speaker 1: the size of this is astonished, and size of all

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Speaker 1: of this is astonishing, and the the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is to have federal employees at these agencies who

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Speaker 1: don't have much to do. If they decide they want

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Speaker 1: to do something, you know what, A lot of it

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Speaker 1: is harassing the American people. This is the problem because

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Speaker 1: a lot of these federal agencies have binding regulatory authority

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Speaker 1: which goes, you know, beyond the constitutional, congressionally past statutes.

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Speaker 1: It's so it's all of a sudden if you work

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Speaker 1: at like, you know, the the Environmental Protection Agency, or

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Speaker 1: you know, you work at agriculture or something, you can say, well,

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Speaker 1: now we need to come up with something to do,

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Speaker 1: and we have more rules we need to pass.

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Speaker 3: I would also say this, I bet if you told

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Speaker 3: a federal government employee, if you finish every bit of

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Speaker 3: work you need to do this week as rapidly as

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Speaker 3: you can, I bet every single one of them could

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Speaker 3: have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off and do everything that they

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Speaker 3: actually needed to do as part of their job Monday

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Speaker 3: and Tuesday. Right Like this idea that they are grinding

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Speaker 1: What how many hours day do you think they're actually

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Speaker 1: working at home? Two? Maybe maybe it's just probably some

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Speaker 1: that is sort of the modern bureaucrats, you know, meeting potatoes,

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Speaker 1: zoom and emails. And you know I generally hate zoom meetings,

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Speaker 1: So you know I hate by the way I hate

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Speaker 1: I hate meetings. Actually I hate meetings. Do I agree

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Speaker 1: with that? I'm that's one of the big Thing's one

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Speaker 1: of the reason why I couldn't stay in the CIA.

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Speaker 1: Oh got it, guys, I'm having flashbacks. We need to

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Speaker 1: have a meeting about the meeting that we had at

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Speaker 1: the last meeting. I mean, this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it is a Swiss watch compared to the CIA.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, well, we'll take some of your

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Speaker 1: but he's still going to get through. Some breaking news,

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Speaker 1: it's so reckless to write something that's so untrue. They

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Speaker 1: don't care. Look at Russia collusion, look at all the

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Speaker 1: things they've written about Trump over the years. But we

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Speaker 1: had some interesting moments so far with RFK Junior and

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Speaker 1: the senators that were opposing him. We start talking to

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Speaker 1: ram Paul joining us. Don't we at the bottom here?

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Speaker 1: Or when is the bottom of the hour? Ran Paul's

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Speaker 1: that's right. So Senator ram Paul will be with us.

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Speaker 1: He's going to give us a particular view of what

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Speaker 1: has been going on up in Congress. But this is

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, better known by President Trump naming her Pocahontas.

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Speaker 1: Here is Elizabeth Warren who is having quite the feisty

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Speaker 7: And I'm asking you to connect right now that you

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Speaker 2: I'll comply with all the ethical guys.

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Speaker 7: That's not the question you and I.

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Speaker 2: You have said you're asking me, You're asking me not

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Speaker 2: to serve vaccine. You are, That's exactly what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: Look, no one should be fooled here. I part of

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Speaker 7: hh S. Robert Kennedy will have the power to undercut

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Speaker 1: She was really reaching for the tomahawk there, Clay.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, she scalped him. Look, I think, uh, I

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Speaker 3: think in general, so this is my big take, big

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Speaker 3: take on our f K junior, the thing that I

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Speaker 3: one billion percent agree with him on. We shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: most aggressive RFK junior questioners and attackers, I think what

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Speaker 3: you will find. I think this would be a fascinating

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Speaker 1: I think you will.

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Speaker 3: Find they are all the biggest beneficiaries of big pharma

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Speaker 3: donations and that's really what's undercutting and under undergirdings. So

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Speaker 3: you're at his core, this is mostly about the money,

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Speaker 3: not the ideology, and not the hysteria over he's going

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Speaker 3: to ban all back. I think I think all of

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Speaker 3: it is. Let me, I have three kids. They got

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Speaker 3: all their vaccines. I am a rational parent. They did

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Speaker 3: not get the COVID shot. Some of you can agree

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Speaker 3: or disagree with that. I was stunned soon you're going

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I was stunned by number of shots and when I

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Speaker 3: heard me talk about on this program. I want to

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Speaker 3: watch a football game. I don't want to see Travis

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Speaker 3: Kelcey telling me he needs to get two shots in

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Speaker 3: Oh this is an unacceptable pick because at its base,

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Speaker 3: RFK Junior I believe is right about the most significant

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Speaker 3: thing here, which is I think overnight the way we

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Speaker 3: talk about drugs in this country would change if you

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Speaker 3: could not advertise prescription drugs on television and Buck, remember,

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Speaker 3: I believe I'm correct in this. Only the United States

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Speaker 3: and New Zealand allow prescription drug advertising on television.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Saying you can't advertise tile and all I'm not saying

657
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Speaker 3: you can't advertise whatever you can buy over the counter

658
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Speaker 3: if you don't need a prescription for it, That's fine

659
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Speaker 3: to me. I think what you see is the reason

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Speaker 3: they spend all this money is because it pays off.

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Speaker 3: I also think buck it pollutes and negatively impacts what

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Speaker 3: the television networks will say when they are taking billions

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Speaker 3: of dollars from Pfizer and Maderna during the COVID shot era.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on here, and I would

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Speaker 1: this point to this play with what you're discussing with

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Speaker 1: the pharma advertisements. I mean, the most prescribed drugs in

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Speaker 1: the United States are drugs that address hypertension and h

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Speaker 1: and basically heart disease, right and that's high cholesterol, high

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Speaker 1: cholesterols really, so like lipid tour is the brand name

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Speaker 1: for I think that's the single most prescribed drug in

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Speaker 1: the cont in America. A lot of what the drugs

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Speaker 1: go to treat right now are things that are down

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Speaker 1: that are sort of further upstream from you need to

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Speaker 1: go see a doctor and get prescribed, which goes to

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Speaker 1: food health, you know, food, the healthy habits movement, all

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Speaker 1: these things which are if junior, I think wants to

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Speaker 1: address more more holistically as well. So I'm just pointing

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Speaker 1: out that like there are a lot of people, like

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Speaker 1: people need their high blood pressure medicine, they need their

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Speaker 1: high cholesterol medicine.

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Speaker 3: I think the reason they want the branding though, is

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Speaker 3: they want you to go in and say, hey, I

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Speaker 3: need this, instead of your doctor suggesting, hey, I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at your cholesterol readings. I'm going to give you this

685
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Speaker 3: medicine that's very brand specific because there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: competing medicines that can do the same thing. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, I think there's a lot of corruption inside

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Speaker 3: of the medical establishment because it's not a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 3: You know what, they have super hot drug rep chicks

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Speaker 3: who are rolling in to meet with medical medical vice

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Speaker 3: sales too. You want to talk about good looking people

693
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Speaker 3: who make a lot of money off their looks, there

694
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Speaker 3: aren't very many unattractive drug reps. They get in to

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Speaker 3: meet the doctors, they tell them, hey, here's all your samples.

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Speaker 3: Hey I noticed you're not writing scripts enough for ex brand.

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Speaker 3: And they go in and they convince doctors to stroke

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Speaker 3: the check so that they that they get those prescriptions.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say this too. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: federal employees. I think you could cut half of federal

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Speaker 3: employees and I think you would see no measurable difference

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Speaker 3: in the efficiency of the federal government.

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Speaker 1: Probably than that, but yeah, probably to be at least half.

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Speaker 3: I think you could cut but half of all prescription

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Speaker 3: drugs in this country and there would be no change

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Speaker 3: in the overall health of America. This is what RFK

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Speaker 3: Junior really is getting at. We pay more than anybody,

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Speaker 3: and we don't get the results that you would expect

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Speaker 3: from the money that we spend. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: because this is my big picture. I think this country

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Speaker 3: is wildly over medicated. I don't think most of your

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Speaker 3: kids need ADHD medication. Well, I don't think we need

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Speaker 3: to have antidepressants on levels. Do you see the graph.

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Speaker 3: American antidepressant use is off the charts compared to almost

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Speaker 3: every other country in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's a relatively new thing, Clay that the pathway to

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Speaker 1: success in life for millions of people is to be

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Speaker 1: in fluorescent lit, airless rooms, sitting in chairs, staring at

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Speaker 1: greens for ten to twelve hours a day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that actually hasn't been around very long. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: so the fact that human beings. But this is see

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Speaker 1: what what I'm trying to get to is there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of demonization of the pharmaceutical companies. And some of

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Speaker 1: it is obviously warranting you to talk about like oxycotton,

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Speaker 1: what happened there. Some of it is clearly warranty that is,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of yeah, right, yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. And then there's the undo influence that

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Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies have. That's another thing. But we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of very sick people in this country and right

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Speaker 1: now you could say that pharma in some ways is

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Speaker 1: the crutch, but it's a crutch that is needed for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people to be able to function. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, the number one I mean, and now there's

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Speaker 1: also as people get older, they're going to need more things.

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Speaker 1: Because you're older, your body starts to deteriorate. But trying

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Speaker 1: to get the country to be healthier so that we

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Speaker 1: don't need as many drugs is I think part of

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Speaker 1: the RFK mission this way is talking about food. Food

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Speaker 1: is the thing that you interact other than air and

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Speaker 1: water quality. Food is the thing that you interact with

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Speaker 1: the most on a day to day basis, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot. First of all, there's a huge industry of

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Speaker 1: just filling people with crap food. This came up in

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Speaker 1: the hearings. RFK Junior wants to let people know, Look,

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Speaker 1: if you're on food stamps, they're they're not gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not clear yet, but they're probably not gonna say

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Speaker 1: you can't just buy like leaders and leaders of Coca

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Speaker 1: Cola or something. But they do want people to have

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Speaker 1: some degree of education about you are slowly poisoning yourself.

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Speaker 1: This stuff is garbage for you. Don't eat this right.

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Speaker 1: So but that's all I think a big part of

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Speaker 1: what his mission is because if you just you know,

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Speaker 1: we want farmer companies to come out with new and

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Speaker 1: amazing drugs. I think glp ones are going to be

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Speaker 1: one of the most important drug classes that has ever

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Speaker 1: been discovered because I think over consumption, not just of calories,

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Speaker 1: but over consumption. You know that they're saying, now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: these glp ones work for gambling addiction. Early evidence. Just

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Speaker 1: to be clear, Yeah, I didn't know that that's super

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Speaker 1: intest for drug addiction. So these are things like you know,

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Speaker 1: o zempic monjar A. These are the brand names of

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Speaker 1: these things. These are the biggest class of drugs and

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Speaker 1: are becoming the biggest class of drugs in the world.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've got a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: are either already struggling with the diseases that over consumption causes.

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Speaker 1: Heart disease can be one of them, but diabetes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got to we got to help those people now,

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Speaker 1: millions and millions, tens of millions of Americans, And we've

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Speaker 1: got to look downstream, or I guess upstream, how are

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Speaker 1: you want to You got to look earlier on at

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Speaker 1: how do we how do we prevent people from needing

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Speaker 1: these drugs to be able to function in their fifties

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Speaker 1: and sixties and seventies. And I think the quality of

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Speaker 1: food and also the quantity of food at someone. But

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Speaker 1: the quality of food is such a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think RFK is really helpful. Also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he's clearly into like TRT and peptides,

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Speaker 1: which is a whole other I mean, you know, people

779
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Speaker 1: talk about how ripty is I'm like, yeah, guys, it's

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Speaker 1: not because he eats so much chicken breast. He's injecting,

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Speaker 1: and I'll I think it's great. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: as you get older, your tea levels drop and all

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Speaker 1: these things happen. But you know, RFK Junior wasn't jacked

784
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Speaker 1: his whole life until he got old and decided to

785
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Speaker 1: go down this pathway of functional medicine. So these are

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Speaker 1: all very important things that I think he brings to

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Speaker 1: the table. And I think that understanding the push pull

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Speaker 1: of you know, we want great drugs, we want great breakthroughs,

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Speaker 1: but we also don't want pharma to be you know,

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Speaker 1: it's particularly bad about my idea about prescription drug advertising.

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Speaker 3: I don't think prescription drug advertising is that effective, but

792
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Speaker 3: I think wrong, I think it's wildly effective. In general,

793
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: people don't keep the doctor he gives you that he

794
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Speaker 3: gives you the prescription that he thinks that you need.

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Speaker 3: If you think it like, oh, I think tons of

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Speaker 3: people go into their doctor's office and say, hey, I've

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Speaker 3: got shortness of breath.

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Speaker 1: I need you know this medicaid. See I've never gone

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Speaker 1: into a doctor's office in my entire life and been like,

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Speaker 1: I saw an ad for what do you think about?

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Speaker 1: I've know that's never happened, but maybe that's just me.

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Speaker 3: I think that it happens a lot, and that's why

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Speaker 3: they have, like, you know, the first part is like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make your life better, and then at

805
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Speaker 3: the back end, you know, they always rush in the

806
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Speaker 3: final five seconds. Hey, this can cause you know, explosive diarrhea,

807
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Speaker 3: like inability to you know, inability to like stand for

808
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Speaker 3: long pears. I'm like, I'm just very anti drugs in general.

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Speaker 3: I think that we've been marketed things that most of

810
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Speaker 3: the time we don't need, and so I'm skeptical. And

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Speaker 3: I do think it's strange that only the United States

812
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Speaker 3: and New Zealand allow prescription drug advertising on television, and

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Speaker 3: I definitely think it colors and disccredits the reporting on

814
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Speaker 3: drug related issues when you're taking billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'll give you an example.

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Speaker 3: YouTube wouldn't allow me to say, hey, I don't think

817
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: you guys should get the COVID shot. OutKick got deemed

818
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Speaker 3: all the time, to the point where I was getting

819
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Speaker 3: telephone calls from execs just saying, please don't say on

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Speaker 3: your show that you don't think somebody should get the

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Speaker 3: COVID shot. Because Pfizer and Maderna are spending so much

822
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Speaker 3: money on YouTube that they have convinced YouTube that you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be able to criticize the use of their drugs.

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 3: I don't think if they couldn't spend billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: on advertising, they have a lot of power there.

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Speaker 1: Well then look, I know that the pretty much the

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Speaker 1: second biggest advertiser on TV, and so clearly there they

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Speaker 1: must think they're getting some kind of a return on this.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought part of it was that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they get all these corporations that talk about these things

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Speaker 1: taking money from them. It's very hard to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: an honest arbiter. If you're like a journalistic enterprise, for example,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting huge dollars from the farmer companies. I

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Speaker 1: think that that probably slows down some of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the problem with banning pharma advertiser TV is

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Speaker 1: that millions and millions of people need these drugs. And

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Speaker 1: there is a free speech thing in America, mister free speech.

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Speaker 3: About don't you don't allow cigarette advertisements on television anymore?

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Speaker 3: You don't allow For a long time, they didn't allow

841
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: liquor to be advertised on television. I don't think you

842
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: can advertise like I mean, there are all sorts of

843
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: restrictions on what we allow to be sold. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe in free speech, but I also believe that

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Speaker 3: there's a reason why almost why shouldn't somebody be able

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Speaker 3: to advertise their new and improved blood pressure or their

847
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Speaker 3: new and improved cholesterol medication on TV like that, Because

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Speaker 3: I think the only reason they're advertising it is for

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Speaker 3: the brand value, because lots of people will go into

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Speaker 3: the doctor and say I need X brand, and there

851
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Speaker 3: may be a generic brand that actually makes more sense

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00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: that the doctor wants to use, but they're spending that money.

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Speaker 3: You don't buy advertising unless in general you're making four

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Speaker 3: or five X on a television ad. I think in

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Speaker 3: their calculus, if they weren't able to do it, their

856
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: products would be way less valuable.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Take foot away from anybody. If you like a cheese

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Speaker 2: berg McDonald's cheezburger, I cope, which my boss, you should

881
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Speaker 2: be able to get them. If you want to eat

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Speaker 2: Hostest wings, you should be able to do that, but

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Speaker 2: you should know what the impacts are on your family

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Speaker 2: and on your health.

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Speaker 1: You want a cheeseburger and a diet coke. Rfkay Junior says,

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Speaker 1: no problem, as long as you know what's going on

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Speaker 1: with it. We're joined now by doctor and Senator Rand

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Speaker 1: Paul from the great State of Kentucky. Senator Paul aways,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us. What were your

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaways today from the RFK hearing.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know there's something profound in the cheeseburger. You

892
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Speaker 8: know you want to choose or you can have it.

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Speaker 8: And at first glance you might miss this. But public

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Speaker 8: health used to be about information and persuasion. Let's wait

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Speaker 8: at audible. Somebody ought to say, you know, you eat

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Speaker 8: too many cheeseburgers. It's a problem. You know you eat

897
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Speaker 8: too many fries. It's a problem. You too many calories.

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Speaker 8: It's a problem. Maybe there's a problem with micro process food.

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Speaker 8: But give us information. It's not so much about mandate.

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Speaker 8: It's well, we got a long you know, probably decades

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Speaker 8: to go. Is the Anthony Faucis of the world, the

902
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Speaker 8: scolds who came along and said you have to do

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Speaker 8: what we tell you and no leeway for opinion in

904
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Speaker 8: a free country. Yeah, but your money. You have a

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Speaker 8: right to buy a cheeseburger.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: What we ought to readdress though, is if it's government's

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Speaker 8: money and or really the taxpayer's money, should the taxpayers

909
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Speaker 8: buy pongs for people? Should the taxes by twinkies and cheeseburgers?

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Speaker 8: So I think there really ought to be some restrictions

911
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Speaker 8: on the government money. But outside of that, I think

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Speaker 8: the notion that public health should be about advice is

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Speaker 8: one well taken.

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Speaker 3: You and I and Buck also are all pretty open

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Speaker 3: First Amendment guys. We talked about that with TikTok. There's

916
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Speaker 3: a variety of perspectives there. Buck and I were just

917
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Speaker 3: discussing one of our FK Junior's prominent ideas, which is

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Speaker 3: that prescribed pharmaceuticals, that is, drugs shouldn't be able to

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Speaker 3: advertise on American media television in particular radio. To be

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Speaker 3: fair as well, I believe it's true that only the

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Speaker 3: United States and New Zealand allow that. You're a doctor,

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Speaker 3: you may have had people come in and ask for prescriptions.

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Speaker 3: What's your perspective on that? Would it make more sense

924
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Speaker 3: to restrict those in your mind than not, or do

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Speaker 3: you think the prescription drug companies should be able to

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Speaker 3: advertise as much within their rights as any other product?

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Speaker 8: You know? I have no love loss for Big Pharma,

928
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Speaker 8: for a lot of the things they are peddling, and

929
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Speaker 8: for some of the information frankly not being accurate or truthful.

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Speaker 8: But at the same time, I respect the First Amendment

931
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Speaker 8: enough that people who disagree with me, and people who

932
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Speaker 8: want to publish something and sell something, unless they're committing fraud,

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Speaker 8: I'd let them do it. That being said, I think

934
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Speaker 8: there needs to be some pushback on how we over

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Speaker 8: medicate our country, and some of that's going to be

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Speaker 8: through more information, not less, So I wouldn't ban them

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Speaker 8: from advertising. I think it is unseemly that every other

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Speaker 8: ad on TV is pushing some drug on you, and

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Speaker 8: we ought to ask as a country, should we all

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Speaker 8: be on twenty drugs or should we go out and

941
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Speaker 8: get on the treadmill for thirty minutes a day and

942
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Speaker 8: maybe eat less food. So there's a lot of things

943
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Speaker 8: that can happen, and nobody's been pushing back on sort

944
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Speaker 8: of the world we live in, the big farmer world.

945
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Speaker 8: We live in the foot side of that is there

946
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Speaker 8: are people. You know, when I started medical school, people

947
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Speaker 8: had RHEUMATORI with arthritis for more than five or ten years,

948
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Speaker 8: off had gnarled hands. You could barely use their hands.

949
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Speaker 8: Now you almost never meet anybody. And it is the

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Speaker 8: miracle of some drugs that came from big pharmaceutical companies,

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Speaker 8: these anti inflammatory compounds, that it really allowed people to

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Speaker 8: invatoire authrotics to live fairly normalized. So there it's a

953
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Speaker 8: double edged sword. But I think we get tired of

954
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Speaker 8: them involved in the regulatory process. So I don't want

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Speaker 8: big pharma deciding what the rules are and creating the

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Speaker 8: rules just to keep out competition. I'm offended by Pfizer

957
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Speaker 8: and Maderna giving one point two trillion dollars directly to NIH.

958
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Speaker 8: I think it makes it impossible for NIH to be

959
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Speaker 8: objective when they get so much money in royalties over

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Speaker 8: the mri A vaccine. So there are many areas where

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Speaker 8: our crossover and join Robert Kennedy with on that banning advertising.

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Speaker 8: I probably wouldn't go there.

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Speaker 1: Senator, are are you a yes vote? And for anybody

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Speaker 1: who has any concerns over OURFK Junior, what makes you confident?

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Speaker 1: One way or the other. And what are the most

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Speaker 1: important things that you think he could pursue at AHHS.

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Speaker 8: I'm a definite, yes, a big fan of his. Doesn't

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Speaker 8: mean we agree on everything, but I'm a big fan

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Speaker 8: of his will vote for him. I think we need

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Speaker 8: something disruptive. I mean, if you look at and this

971
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Speaker 8: is this shouldn't be counterintuitive, but to some people it

972
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Speaker 8: still is. Our problem in our country is not a

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Speaker 8: lack of food. Our problem in our country is too

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Speaker 8: much food. And drawing attention to the chronic health problems

975
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Speaker 8: of too many calories of obesity is something, frankly, we

976
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Speaker 8: should do. I've talked with him about. I think it

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Speaker 8: was actually his uncle who started the presidential fitness program.

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Speaker 8: We need stuff like that again in the school. Maybe

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Speaker 8: we could have them down their phones for a few

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Speaker 8: minutes and have kids exercise, you know, touch the grass

981
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Speaker 8: as they say. So, I think there are a lot

982
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Speaker 8: of things that could come and I think he will

983
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Speaker 8: be a disruptor. The enormous inertia and mass of HHS,

984
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Speaker 8: a trillion dollar agency, is it's hard to shove it

985
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Speaker 8: one way or another, but I think he'll bring back

986
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Speaker 8: respectability to science and trust in government, if he would

987
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Speaker 8: just be honest and transparent with the studies. People on

988
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 8: the left have misdiagnosed this. They say, Oh, it's all

989
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Speaker 8: the right wing people and the vaccine skeptics that have

990
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Speaker 8: created this vaccine hesitency, And it's not true at all.

991
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Speaker 8: The vaccine hesitancy is coming from government being dishonest. They

992
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Speaker 8: need to be honest about it. I mean, with the

993
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Speaker 8: COVID vaccine in twenty twenty, I think there was evidence

994
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Speaker 8: that in twenty twenty one the disease was dangerous enough

995
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Speaker 8: for certain age categories, older age and overweight that the vaccine.

996
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Speaker 8: I think the benefits greatly outweighed the risk for certain ages,

997
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Speaker 8: but for kids, the science that have never been there.

998
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Speaker 8: In fact, I think the science is the opposite, and

999
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Speaker 8: it is definitely the opposite. Now the virus has become

1000
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Speaker 8: less potent that the risks of the vaccine for children

1001
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Speaker 8: actually outweigh the benefit. And yet the government still tells

1002
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Speaker 8: you you should give three vaccines to your six month old.

1003
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Speaker 8: I think that's malpractice. And by them, I think giving

1004
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Speaker 8: us misinformation from the government that made us distrustful of

1005
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Speaker 8: all the other information they give that made us distrust

1006
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Speaker 8: all the other advice we've gotten for decades because they're

1007
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Speaker 8: not being honest on the COVID vaccine.

1008
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Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul, you said you're a

1009
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Speaker 3: vote yes for OURFK Junior. How optimistic are he are

1010
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Speaker 3: you that he will get confirmed? And also, as a

1011
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: secondary part of that, how crazy is it that Democrats

1012
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Speaker 3: are so vociferously opposed to him, considering that until about

1013
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: six months ago, for seventy plus years of his life,

1014
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Speaker 3: he was a card caring Democrat. Same thing true for

1015
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Speaker 3: Tulsea Gabbert to a large extent. Take us into these

1016
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Speaker 3: confirmation battles and whether you think there will be much

1017
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Speaker 3: cross party support or is this basically a Republican or

1018
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: bust strategy for these guys and gals.

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Speaker 8: I think Bobby Kennedy will hopefully get a few Democrat votes.

1020
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Speaker 8: It is disappointing that they seem to have left out,

1021
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Speaker 8: you know, a thirty year life span in his in

1022
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Speaker 8: his in his a thirty year span in his life

1023
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Speaker 8: where he fought against polluting the Hudson River, where he

1024
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Speaker 8: fought for a cleaner environment, and he actually fought for

1025
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Speaker 8: it in the way that I think is actually the

1026
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Speaker 8: most libertarian way is that if you dump chemicals in

1027
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Speaker 8: the river, you ought to have to pay, and it's

1028
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Speaker 8: a liability thing. And so libertarians aren't opposed to liability.

1029
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 8: If you put something on my land, or if a

1030
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Speaker 8: creek runs through my property and yours and you you

1031
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Speaker 8: dump old cans of Talluine and paint Center in a

1032
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Speaker 8: sink hall on your property, I expect you to pay,

1033
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Speaker 8: really probably go to jail for it, frankly. But that's

1034
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Speaker 8: a liability system that RFK was a big part of,

1035
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Speaker 8: and in cleaning up the Hutson River, which everybody acknowledges

1036
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Speaker 8: much clean as it was when he started, and yet

1037
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Speaker 8: they give him no credit for that. I think think

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Speaker 8: it's because the left loves mandates. They love government so

1039
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Speaker 8: much that they want to force you to obey it.

1040
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Speaker 8: That any kind of advocacy for medical freedom or choice, well,

1041
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Speaker 8: that's right. They are for choice. I forgot the Left

1042
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Speaker 8: was for choice except for when it comes to medicines

1043
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Speaker 8: or vaccines. You want to take.

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul, are you expecting that all Republicans are going

1045
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Speaker 1: to go forward with this RFK nomination or could you

1046
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Speaker 1: see any hold outs? You know?

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Speaker 8: I think there's a possibility of losing two or three

1048
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Speaker 8: kind of like on the except nomination. If that happens,

1049
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Speaker 8: you know, the vice president can break the tie. But

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Speaker 8: I'm actually hoping if we lose two or three Republicans,

1051
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Speaker 8: that we gain two or three Democrats. So I'm still

1052
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Speaker 8: hopeful that we can. I mean a lot of what

1053
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Speaker 8: he's talking about, you know, there's been no voice for this,

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Speaker 8: There's been no voice for talking about chronic health and

1055
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Speaker 8: chronic illness and what are the things we can do

1056
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Speaker 8: to get people healthier? And a lot of these things

1057
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Speaker 8: don't involve mandates. It's persuasion. Convince people that there are

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Speaker 8: bad things in the food system, convinced people that there

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Speaker 8: are a risk to being sedentary and not exercising. I

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Speaker 8: can't see why the left would be opposed to that.

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Speaker 8: I actually have a bill to actually change the formulay

1062
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Speaker 8: for food stamps to disallow sugar sodas and disallow twinkies

1063
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Speaker 8: and ding dongs from taxpayer funds. I can't find one

1064
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Speaker 8: Democrat on it, because they love so much the idea

1065
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Speaker 8: of free stuff coming from the government that they can't

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Speaker 8: imagine that the taxpayer would place any kind of you know,

1067
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Speaker 8: rules or conditions on it. And so the way I

1068
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Speaker 8: look at it is I think high sugar and fat

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Speaker 8: food is up there. Frankly with cigarettes and alcohol. I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't ban them or tax them, but I think you

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Speaker 8: ought to be informed if you're going to eat, you know,

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Speaker 8: drink ten full strength soda is a day, what that

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Speaker 8: would be. It's like fifteen sixteen hundred cowardies just in

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Speaker 8: Coca Cola, and there are people out there drinking eight

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Speaker 8: to ten cokes in a day, Cokes or Pepsi's I

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Speaker 8: just means generic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. We're talking to Senator Ran Paul.

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Speaker 3: I know that you are probably the foremost almost on

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Speaker 3: Capitol Hill in terms of trying to rein in federal

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Speaker 3: budgets and spending. What do you think about Trump's perspective

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Speaker 3: on the federal government workforce of he just said, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen it, but it's similar to

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Speaker 3: things he said in the past that if you're not

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Speaker 3: in the office by February sixth, for every day that

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Speaker 3: he's going to fire you. He also offered basically a

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Speaker 3: payout to anyone who wanted to continue to work from home,

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Speaker 3: but that their largess I guess from the federal government

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Speaker 3: would run out in September. How do you analyze this?

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Speaker 3: What sort of success do you think he might meet

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Speaker 3: with on this perspective, this idea, the more the better.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we have a two trillion dollar institutional deficit

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Speaker 8: and nobody's budget it. We've got to make government smaller.

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Speaker 8: So everything he can do, you have to realize for

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Speaker 8: anybody who thinks he might have overstepped in this, that

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Speaker 8: the Biden administration on the way out did extraordinary things

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Speaker 8: to try to prevent from working. They wrote in five

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Speaker 8: year union contracts to try to exceed his term in office,

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Speaker 8: to try to say you don't have to work in person.

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Speaker 8: The problem with government workers not working in person is

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Speaker 8: there's no way to measure their work. You know, if

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Speaker 8: you're selling for me and I have a stock company,

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Speaker 8: and you're on the phone all day and you work

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Speaker 8: from home, one they listen to your phone calls too.

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Speaker 8: They measure your output, how many phone calls you take

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Speaker 8: each hour, And they measure if you're in a sales position,

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Speaker 8: your sales. So private businesses know how to measure profit

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Speaker 8: and know if you're working from home is worthwhile government

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Speaker 8: there's no way to police them. And my favorite story

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Speaker 8: was the guy that was at the EPA. He was

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Speaker 8: the second in charge of the EPA and for years

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Speaker 8: he'd missed six months of work every year, but he

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Speaker 8: told them he was at the EPA. But he told

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Speaker 8: them he worked for the CIA on the sly and

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Speaker 8: nobody questioned it. He did this for a dozen years.

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Speaker 8: They finally caught him one day because someone had the

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Speaker 8: wherewithal the call to CIA and said, do you know

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Speaker 8: Joe Smith? And they're like, no, never heard of him.

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Speaker 8: But no one had ever called to check up on

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Speaker 8: this cacamane any story that he worked for the CIA

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Speaker 8: and the part time. But this goes on throughout government.

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Speaker 8: There are people sitting at home. There are people sitting

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Speaker 8: in a chase lounge at a pool drinking a beer

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Speaker 8: as we speak, who are collecting government checks. I promise you.

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Speaker 3: What percentage is just a last question for you on

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Speaker 3: the way out. What percentage of government employees do you

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Speaker 3: think could not be employed by the government and the

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Speaker 3: average American would see no decline in overall efficiency.

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Speaker 8: If you eliminated the Department of Education. I can't tell you,

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Speaker 8: but there's got to be thousands of people over there.

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Speaker 8: You wouldn't know it, You would have no idea, and

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Speaker 8: in fact, scores might go up because scores have not

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Speaker 8: been improved over the years at all, since we compare

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Speaker 8: ourselves internationally, since we got the Department of Education. There

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Speaker 8: are no teachers over there. There are a bunch of bureaucrats,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of them are just deeo bureaucrats. So

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Speaker 8: I commended the President for trying to get rid of

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Speaker 8: all the deibs that we've got throughout government too. But

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Speaker 8: thousands and thousands of government workers could be gone and

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Speaker 8: you'd never know they were missing. They don't produce anything.

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Speaker 8: Most government workers are in place to hamper the economy

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Speaker 8: and hamper transactions. And so what they are is they

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Speaker 8: are a compliance cost. And so when you remove government workers,

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Speaker 8: if you remove the regulations, what you'd have is a

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Speaker 8: booming private economy. It would quickly absorb their numbers and

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Speaker 8: would lead to an area where you wouldn't even know

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Speaker 8: that anybody had lost their job because there'd be so

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Speaker 8: many new jobs created in the private market.

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Speaker 3: No doubt he's Senator Ran Paul fantastic. As always, Senator,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate you, and we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: has gotten so big thirty six trillion dollars. You just

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Speaker 3: start us talking about it with Senator Ran Paul. How

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