1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,435 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Tanya 2 00:00:22,715 --> 00:00:26,875 Speaker 1: Sue Chutchin is about to become the most important person 3 00:00:27,035 --> 00:00:31,955 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty four presidential campaign period, maybe the 4 00:00:31,995 --> 00:00:35,155 Speaker 1: most important person in the fight to prevent the sabotaging 5 00:00:35,195 --> 00:00:40,475 Speaker 1: of democracy, because if Judge Chutkin sides with Trump and 6 00:00:40,555 --> 00:00:43,835 Speaker 1: against Jack Smith in the gag order case, she will 7 00:00:43,875 --> 00:00:48,035 Speaker 1: be enabling Trump to claim that everything he does from 8 00:00:48,075 --> 00:00:52,715 Speaker 1: here on, in every threat he makes, every conspiracy theory 9 00:00:52,755 --> 00:00:57,555 Speaker 1: he stokes, every lie about President Biden he proclaims, has 10 00:00:57,715 --> 00:01:03,395 Speaker 1: been authorized by a federal judge, and you cannot stop him, 11 00:01:03,795 --> 00:01:07,595 Speaker 1: and the law cannot stop him, and the Constitution cannot 12 00:01:07,595 --> 00:01:11,995 Speaker 1: stop him, and that fresh hell will make the current 13 00:01:12,075 --> 00:01:14,715 Speaker 1: one we are living in read like a quick dance 14 00:01:14,915 --> 00:01:19,395 Speaker 1: in the spring rain. To read the full twenty five 15 00:01:19,475 --> 00:01:24,515 Speaker 1: page Trump gag order filing answer is an exercise in 16 00:01:24,595 --> 00:01:27,315 Speaker 1: realizing that for the right fee, there are lawyers who 17 00:01:27,395 --> 00:01:31,795 Speaker 1: will invent and argue for your right to saw off 18 00:01:32,155 --> 00:01:36,635 Speaker 1: their limbs. But more importantly, it soon becomes apparent that 19 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:40,035 Speaker 1: it is even more of an exercise by Trump to 20 00:01:40,115 --> 00:01:43,795 Speaker 1: get the judge and thus the courts, to in effect 21 00:01:43,915 --> 00:01:47,075 Speaker 1: sign off on every one of his anti democracy rages 22 00:01:47,355 --> 00:01:51,555 Speaker 1: and every call for assassination by proxy via mental gymnastics, 23 00:01:51,595 --> 00:01:56,235 Speaker 1: akin to proving a negative. The Trump lawyer's response, filed 24 00:01:56,355 --> 00:02:01,115 Speaker 1: late Monday night, right before the deadline, bursts with Trumpian 25 00:02:01,195 --> 00:02:04,595 Speaker 1: claims of rights that do not exist and precedents that 26 00:02:04,795 --> 00:02:08,675 Speaker 1: do not authorize his dangerous rhetoric and constitutional means to 27 00:02:08,755 --> 00:02:12,075 Speaker 1: destroy the Constitution that are not part of the American 28 00:02:12,115 --> 00:02:16,515 Speaker 1: system of representative government. Well, they don't exist now, and 29 00:02:16,595 --> 00:02:19,555 Speaker 1: they don't authorize him now, and they are not part 30 00:02:19,555 --> 00:02:23,835 Speaker 1: of America now. But if Judge Chuckin finds for Trump, 31 00:02:23,875 --> 00:02:26,715 Speaker 1: he will immediately claim they are all in effect, and 32 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:29,155 Speaker 1: he will exploit them. And four hundred and eighty two 33 00:02:29,235 --> 00:02:32,355 Speaker 1: days from now, we may very well be living in 34 00:02:32,395 --> 00:02:38,115 Speaker 1: an authoritarian state. Trump's lawyers gave away the subplot here 35 00:02:38,195 --> 00:02:43,075 Speaker 1: in the first sentence, literally the first sentence, the answer 36 00:02:43,075 --> 00:02:45,955 Speaker 1: to the Smith demand for a gag order begins quote 37 00:02:46,275 --> 00:02:49,675 Speaker 1: President Trump respectfully submits this response in opposition to the 38 00:02:49,715 --> 00:02:57,315 Speaker 1: prosecution's motion to impose unconstitutional prior restraints. There it is 39 00:02:58,155 --> 00:03:02,315 Speaker 1: it is the Special Council violating the Constitution, not Trump 40 00:03:02,355 --> 00:03:06,035 Speaker 1: who called for terminating them. There it is it is 41 00:03:06,075 --> 00:03:09,875 Speaker 1: the Special Council trying to hinder Trump, not Trump lying 42 00:03:09,915 --> 00:03:14,315 Speaker 1: about who he's being prosecuted by and why, and encouraging 43 00:03:14,355 --> 00:03:17,915 Speaker 1: his cult to kill at least one likely witness in 44 00:03:17,955 --> 00:03:21,555 Speaker 1: the case against him, trying to hinder all of them. 45 00:03:21,915 --> 00:03:25,195 Speaker 1: If Chuck con fines for Trump, Trump will proceed and 46 00:03:25,355 --> 00:03:28,435 Speaker 1: boast that his threat that kicked this all off, if 47 00:03:28,475 --> 00:03:32,955 Speaker 1: you go after me, I'm coming after you, is constitutionally protected. 48 00:03:33,515 --> 00:03:35,555 Speaker 1: He might as well put it on bumper stickers and 49 00:03:35,635 --> 00:03:40,555 Speaker 1: maga hats if you go after me, I'm coming after you. 50 00:03:41,595 --> 00:03:46,675 Speaker 1: But that's not a threat. The entire document, apparently written 51 00:03:46,715 --> 00:03:51,635 Speaker 1: mostly or largely by Todd Blanche, starts with the statement 52 00:03:51,635 --> 00:03:53,795 Speaker 1: of a Trump lie as if it were a fact. 53 00:03:54,435 --> 00:03:58,675 Speaker 1: Again and again. Trump's lawyers insist, repeat, assume the paranoid 54 00:03:58,675 --> 00:04:01,115 Speaker 1: delusion that Trump may or may not believe, but which 55 00:04:01,115 --> 00:04:03,395 Speaker 1: he has sold to his mob since the day the 56 00:04:03,435 --> 00:04:07,315 Speaker 1: Special Council was appoint that he is being prosecuted at 57 00:04:07,355 --> 00:04:11,155 Speaker 1: the direct orders of Joe Biden, and not because he 58 00:04:11,355 --> 00:04:14,235 Speaker 1: Trump is the most venal criminal in the history of 59 00:04:14,275 --> 00:04:20,555 Speaker 1: a nation amazingly abundant in evil bastards. Quote. This very 60 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:24,315 Speaker 1: motion came on the heels of adverse polling for President Biden. 61 00:04:24,875 --> 00:04:28,835 Speaker 1: His administration's plan is quite simple. On leash a forty 62 00:04:28,875 --> 00:04:33,195 Speaker 1: five page speaking indictment, discuss and leak its talking points 63 00:04:33,235 --> 00:04:35,955 Speaker 1: in the press, and then cynically attempt to invoke the 64 00:04:35,955 --> 00:04:39,075 Speaker 1: court's authority to prevent Trump and those acting on his 65 00:04:39,155 --> 00:04:44,835 Speaker 1: behalf from presenting his side of the story to the 66 00:04:44,875 --> 00:04:51,115 Speaker 1: American people during a political campaign. If Judge Chutkin does 67 00:04:51,155 --> 00:04:55,395 Speaker 1: not take the fascist conspiracy theory laden argument and break 68 00:04:55,435 --> 00:05:00,275 Speaker 1: it over Trump's head, he will then act as if 69 00:05:00,395 --> 00:05:05,235 Speaker 1: every single thing said in it has been endorsed by 70 00:05:05,555 --> 00:05:10,955 Speaker 1: the courts. It will no longer be Biden is prosecuting me. 71 00:05:11,515 --> 00:05:16,715 Speaker 1: It will be as Judge Chutkin agreed, Biden is prosecuting me. 72 00:05:17,915 --> 00:05:22,995 Speaker 1: Failure to take the opportunity presented to her to smash 73 00:05:23,115 --> 00:05:28,395 Speaker 1: Trump's delusional extra legal arguments now will give them the 74 00:05:28,435 --> 00:05:31,635 Speaker 1: authority of a court that did not bark in the night, 75 00:05:32,035 --> 00:05:34,675 Speaker 1: and it will give him the authority to behave in public, 76 00:05:35,075 --> 00:05:37,155 Speaker 1: just as he behaved in public in the month before 77 00:05:37,235 --> 00:05:43,715 Speaker 1: January sixth, behave as a terrorist. The Trump argument against 78 00:05:43,715 --> 00:05:47,355 Speaker 1: a gag order ignores the entire universe of reality. It 79 00:05:47,475 --> 00:05:52,515 Speaker 1: is about and it is only about Jack Smith as 80 00:05:52,555 --> 00:05:57,915 Speaker 1: some sort of political minion micro managed by Joe Biden, quote, 81 00:05:58,595 --> 00:06:02,475 Speaker 1: preventing Trump from defending himself in the political arena, while 82 00:06:02,515 --> 00:06:06,075 Speaker 1: giving President Biden and his surrogates, including those in the 83 00:06:06,195 --> 00:06:12,315 Speaker 1: corporate media, free reign to say whatever they want. Unquote. 84 00:06:12,515 --> 00:06:16,715 Speaker 1: It is premised on the idea that every single conspiracy 85 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:20,275 Speaker 1: theory and paranoid construction of MAGA and Trump and the 86 00:06:20,315 --> 00:06:26,555 Speaker 1: new American Fascism is indisputably correct, and Trump's lawyers make 87 00:06:26,635 --> 00:06:29,915 Speaker 1: no attempt to hide this quote. No one can doubt 88 00:06:29,995 --> 00:06:34,275 Speaker 1: that substantial segments of the US public harbor deep suspicions 89 00:06:34,515 --> 00:06:38,595 Speaker 1: regarding the prosecution's motives. In this case, President Trump has 90 00:06:38,635 --> 00:06:42,075 Speaker 1: a constitutional right to speak on this subject, both as 91 00:06:42,115 --> 00:06:48,115 Speaker 1: a political candidate and as a citizen of this country. Unquote. 92 00:06:48,315 --> 00:06:53,515 Speaker 1: Who caused that suspicion? Who nurtured that suspicion? Who has 93 00:06:53,635 --> 00:06:57,875 Speaker 1: exploited that suspicion? No one can doubt that substantial segments 94 00:06:57,915 --> 00:07:01,155 Speaker 1: of the US public harbor deep suspicions regarding the sudden 95 00:07:01,195 --> 00:07:04,355 Speaker 1: death of Ivana Trump and her inexplicable burial near the 96 00:07:04,395 --> 00:07:07,115 Speaker 1: first tea at her ex husband's golf course. But if 97 00:07:07,115 --> 00:07:09,635 Speaker 1: I ran for president against Donald Trump, and my entire 98 00:07:09,675 --> 00:07:11,955 Speaker 1: campaign was based on some kind of assertion that it 99 00:07:11,995 --> 00:07:15,475 Speaker 1: was obviously true that all those suspicions were justified because 100 00:07:15,515 --> 00:07:18,435 Speaker 1: we all know how she really died and why she 101 00:07:18,595 --> 00:07:22,075 Speaker 1: was really buried, there I would have to suffer the consequences, 102 00:07:22,195 --> 00:07:28,515 Speaker 1: legal and otherwise of this ridiculous and arrogant presumptions. Trump's 103 00:07:28,595 --> 00:07:32,595 Speaker 1: presumptions are no less ridiculous and no less arrogant, and 104 00:07:32,595 --> 00:07:37,035 Speaker 1: in many senses, far more slanderous. Now that he has 105 00:07:37,155 --> 00:07:39,755 Speaker 1: poisoned society, he wants to pretend he had nothing to 106 00:07:39,795 --> 00:07:43,195 Speaker 1: do with the poisoning. He's only commenting on the bad 107 00:07:43,275 --> 00:07:47,555 Speaker 1: taste in the water. And once again, what Judge Chutkin 108 00:07:47,675 --> 00:07:50,555 Speaker 1: rules in this case will not just decide whether or 109 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:53,035 Speaker 1: not there is a gag order, but it will decide 110 00:07:53,035 --> 00:07:55,115 Speaker 1: whether or not Trump gets away with making up a 111 00:07:55,235 --> 00:07:57,955 Speaker 1: false rumor and then running for president by pretending it's 112 00:07:57,995 --> 00:08:02,875 Speaker 1: not only true, but he's just speaking on suspicions that 113 00:08:03,035 --> 00:08:08,435 Speaker 1: substantial segments of the public harbor after he did everything 114 00:08:08,555 --> 00:08:11,875 Speaker 1: in his power for month upon month to get them 115 00:08:12,355 --> 00:08:20,995 Speaker 1: to gaslight themselves into being suspicious. There is as ever, 116 00:08:21,555 --> 00:08:24,995 Speaker 1: as in every utterance by Trump or in his defense 117 00:08:25,315 --> 00:08:30,235 Speaker 1: in this document neither shame nor conscience quote. The prosecution's 118 00:08:30,275 --> 00:08:35,435 Speaker 1: examples are intentionally vague in order to chill the First 119 00:08:35,435 --> 00:08:38,715 Speaker 1: Amendment rights of President Trump and his Council unquote. That 120 00:08:38,915 --> 00:08:43,715 Speaker 1: is one of twenty five different references in the filing 121 00:08:44,315 --> 00:08:48,595 Speaker 1: twenty five in twenty six pages, twenty five references to 122 00:08:48,715 --> 00:08:52,315 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. The document was in fact submitted roughly 123 00:08:52,315 --> 00:08:57,075 Speaker 1: twenty seven hours after Trump promised, boasted, crowed that if 124 00:08:57,075 --> 00:09:00,475 Speaker 1: he regains power, he will go to news organizations like 125 00:09:00,595 --> 00:09:04,355 Speaker 1: NBC and all the others and remove from them all 126 00:09:04,395 --> 00:09:08,435 Speaker 1: of the actions provided to them by the First Amendment. 127 00:09:09,995 --> 00:09:15,115 Speaker 1: This is what Judge Chutkin could solidify into what amounts 128 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:21,555 Speaker 1: to settled law in trump Land. His lawyers have also 129 00:09:21,555 --> 00:09:24,075 Speaker 1: included a passage in here which, if tchut con signs 130 00:09:24,115 --> 00:09:25,955 Speaker 1: with them, will be offered by Trump as proof that 131 00:09:25,995 --> 00:09:28,515 Speaker 1: the courts have ruled he had nothing to do with 132 00:09:28,595 --> 00:09:32,035 Speaker 1: the insurrection. The insurrection the only purpose of which was 133 00:09:32,075 --> 00:09:34,875 Speaker 1: to reinstall him in the White House by bloody force, 134 00:09:35,035 --> 00:09:38,835 Speaker 1: and which he inspired and he incited. It claims the 135 00:09:38,875 --> 00:09:44,155 Speaker 1: Special Council launched quote gratuitous out of court statements, wrongly 136 00:09:44,475 --> 00:09:48,555 Speaker 1: insinuating that President Trump was responsible for the events of 137 00:09:48,635 --> 00:09:55,555 Speaker 1: January sixth. On one more perverse easter egg, it cites 138 00:09:55,555 --> 00:09:59,075 Speaker 1: from a precedent case quote, if the First Amendment has 139 00:09:59,115 --> 00:10:03,195 Speaker 1: any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens 140 00:10:03,595 --> 00:10:08,275 Speaker 1: or associations of citizens for simply engaging in political speech unquote. 141 00:10:09,555 --> 00:10:12,395 Speaker 1: Forget for one moment that in this country the urging 142 00:10:12,475 --> 00:10:16,915 Speaker 1: of violence against prosecutors and judges and potential witnesses who 143 00:10:16,955 --> 00:10:19,395 Speaker 1: just happened to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs has 144 00:10:19,475 --> 00:10:24,475 Speaker 1: never been considered protected political speech. It's more important to 145 00:10:24,595 --> 00:10:29,075 Speaker 1: note which case that quote I just read comes from. 146 00:10:29,395 --> 00:10:36,155 Speaker 1: That's what matters here. It is from Citizens United, and 147 00:10:36,235 --> 00:10:38,755 Speaker 1: it is in there to set up an appeal to 148 00:10:38,795 --> 00:10:41,155 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, which, as we now know from the 149 00:10:41,235 --> 00:10:44,875 Speaker 1: latest pro public of revelations about Clarence and Ginny Thomas 150 00:10:44,915 --> 00:10:50,115 Speaker 1: and bribes, Clarence Thomas's Supreme Court corruptly decided Citizens United 151 00:10:50,155 --> 00:10:53,955 Speaker 1: and opened the Pandora's box of limitless political graft and 152 00:10:54,075 --> 00:11:00,515 Speaker 1: venality disguised as free speech. And yet none of this 153 00:11:00,915 --> 00:11:03,875 Speaker 1: that I have read you so far is the most 154 00:11:04,075 --> 00:11:09,675 Speaker 1: cynical and the most disingenuous of all the things in 155 00:11:09,755 --> 00:11:12,555 Speaker 1: the Trump answer to the Jack Smith demand for a 156 00:11:12,595 --> 00:11:19,995 Speaker 1: gag order or some action restraining Trump. Quote. The Constitution 157 00:11:20,235 --> 00:11:24,955 Speaker 1: does not permit the censorship of President Trump for the 158 00:11:25,395 --> 00:11:32,075 Speaker 1: unprovoked acts of third parties. President Trump has never called 159 00:11:32,115 --> 00:11:38,195 Speaker 1: for any improper or unlawful action, writes Todd Blanche or whoever, 160 00:11:39,075 --> 00:11:41,315 Speaker 1: and they cite a two thousand and three case Virginia 161 00:11:41,395 --> 00:11:46,275 Speaker 1: versus Plaque and quoting that intimidation in the constitutionally proscribable 162 00:11:46,355 --> 00:11:48,915 Speaker 1: sense of the word is a type of true threat, 163 00:11:49,395 --> 00:11:52,795 Speaker 1: where a speaker directs a threat to a person or 164 00:11:52,835 --> 00:11:55,635 Speaker 1: group of persons with the intent of placing the victim 165 00:11:55,675 --> 00:12:00,795 Speaker 1: in fear of bodily harm or death. Unquote. If Chutkin 166 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:04,515 Speaker 1: finds for Trump and not for the Special Council, the 167 00:12:04,875 --> 00:12:09,155 Speaker 1: distinctions without differences that are at the heart of Trump's 168 00:12:09,195 --> 00:12:15,515 Speaker 1: lifetime of getting away with it will become codified and 169 00:12:15,675 --> 00:12:22,395 Speaker 1: solidified and in cement. The judge has her choice. She 170 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:25,075 Speaker 1: can pick the side that will say that even the 171 00:12:25,195 --> 00:12:28,435 Speaker 1: judge in the witch hunt against poor Martyrdom Jay Trump 172 00:12:28,675 --> 00:12:31,835 Speaker 1: believes that telling a bunch of killers and sycopaths that 173 00:12:31,915 --> 00:12:34,235 Speaker 1: the chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff is guilty 174 00:12:34,315 --> 00:12:37,715 Speaker 1: of an act so egregious that in times gone by 175 00:12:37,795 --> 00:12:40,435 Speaker 1: the punishment would have been death. That that is not 176 00:12:40,595 --> 00:12:42,995 Speaker 1: the same as telling them something like, oh, I want 177 00:12:43,035 --> 00:12:44,675 Speaker 1: one of you to go kill the chairman of the 178 00:12:44,715 --> 00:12:49,595 Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs of Staff. She can choose that side, or 179 00:12:50,195 --> 00:12:52,995 Speaker 1: she can pick the side that believes that who says 180 00:12:53,875 --> 00:12:57,635 Speaker 1: something like that is more important than the precise phrasing 181 00:12:57,915 --> 00:13:02,275 Speaker 1: that if the speaker inspired the January sixth coup attempt, 182 00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:08,715 Speaker 1: the words are calculated to inspire an assassination attempt, as 183 00:13:09,155 --> 00:13:11,955 Speaker 1: would be the just to pick an example out of 184 00:13:11,995 --> 00:13:14,995 Speaker 1: thin air, the docksing of President Obama. H right, Trump 185 00:13:15,075 --> 00:13:22,915 Speaker 1: did that too. Judge chutkins upcoming choice and the jack 186 00:13:22,955 --> 00:13:26,835 Speaker 1: Smith response is not due until Saturday, is about far 187 00:13:26,915 --> 00:13:31,795 Speaker 1: more than just a gag order for somebody who deserves 188 00:13:31,835 --> 00:13:38,875 Speaker 1: it for the rest of time. This decision may actually 189 00:13:38,995 --> 00:13:44,435 Speaker 1: decide the presidential campaign, and thus, in turn, it may 190 00:13:44,475 --> 00:13:55,795 Speaker 1: actually decide whether American representative government lives or dies. The 191 00:13:55,875 --> 00:13:58,675 Speaker 1: other judges have been busy, and Trump continues to lose 192 00:13:58,675 --> 00:14:02,355 Speaker 1: at almost every turn. In the nearest parallel to Chutkins's 193 00:14:02,635 --> 00:14:07,835 Speaker 1: upcoming breathtaking choice, In her upcoming gag order ruling, Judge 194 00:14:07,875 --> 00:14:10,955 Speaker 1: Sarah B. Wallace of Denver has limited what Trump and 195 00:14:10,995 --> 00:14:14,635 Speaker 1: other parties in the Fourteenth Amendment ballot ineligibility case there 196 00:14:14,795 --> 00:14:19,235 Speaker 1: can say nothing quote that could reasonably be construed as 197 00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:23,475 Speaker 1: a threat, intimidation, or act of harassment intended to coerce, compel, 198 00:14:23,675 --> 00:14:27,675 Speaker 1: or adversely influence any party, council, or witness from fully 199 00:14:27,715 --> 00:14:33,155 Speaker 1: and freely participating in these legal proceedings, including quote statements 200 00:14:33,195 --> 00:14:37,875 Speaker 1: to the media or in public settings, including through social media, 201 00:14:38,555 --> 00:14:41,875 Speaker 1: that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case. 202 00:14:42,995 --> 00:14:46,435 Speaker 1: In Atlanta, Judge Scott McAfee has ruled that the identities 203 00:14:46,475 --> 00:14:49,235 Speaker 1: of the jurors in the prosecution of Trump there for 204 00:14:49,395 --> 00:14:52,835 Speaker 1: trying to steal the election in Georgia will remain protected. 205 00:14:52,915 --> 00:14:56,435 Speaker 1: No names, no videos, no sketches, no recordings, no identification 206 00:14:56,555 --> 00:15:01,275 Speaker 1: in any document by anything other than they're juror numbers. 207 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:04,995 Speaker 1: Even in the Florida case with Trump point Zeno, Judge 208 00:15:04,995 --> 00:15:08,395 Speaker 1: Eileen Cannon, trying not to fall off the chair behind 209 00:15:08,395 --> 00:15:12,115 Speaker 1: the bench, she has granted Jack Smith's motion to examine 210 00:15:12,155 --> 00:15:16,515 Speaker 1: potential conflicts involving Trump's co defendants Walt Nauda and Carlos 211 00:15:16,555 --> 00:15:20,435 Speaker 1: the Olivia and their Trump supplied lawyers, and she has 212 00:15:20,555 --> 00:15:23,875 Speaker 1: ordered that back up attorneys stand by in case she 213 00:15:23,955 --> 00:15:27,875 Speaker 1: has to throw the current lawyers out. And of course, 214 00:15:27,915 --> 00:15:30,275 Speaker 1: here in New York, the judge in the Attorney General's 215 00:15:30,275 --> 00:15:33,795 Speaker 1: civil fraud case against Trump has already awarded much of 216 00:15:33,795 --> 00:15:38,075 Speaker 1: the verdict to the prosecution. He's canceled the Trump Organization's 217 00:15:38,155 --> 00:15:41,355 Speaker 1: New York business certificates. He said that Trump and his 218 00:15:41,475 --> 00:15:47,355 Speaker 1: sons Oudai in cusy. That's right, isn't it, Uda and 219 00:15:47,435 --> 00:15:52,795 Speaker 1: cuse Trump that they quote repeatedly unquote violated New York 220 00:15:52,875 --> 00:15:55,395 Speaker 1: state fraud law. And in particular, Trump lied about how 221 00:15:55,475 --> 00:15:58,675 Speaker 1: much he was and is worth by only about three billion, 222 00:15:58,675 --> 00:16:04,675 Speaker 1: six hundred million dollars. The documents here clearly contain fraudt 223 00:16:05,075 --> 00:16:10,795 Speaker 1: voluations that defendants used in business, Judge and Goron said yesterday. 224 00:16:10,955 --> 00:16:14,275 Speaker 1: He then fined Trump's attorneys seventy five hundred clams each 225 00:16:14,715 --> 00:16:18,235 Speaker 1: for reusing legal arguments that had already been rejected by 226 00:16:18,275 --> 00:16:23,355 Speaker 1: the judge twice. Judge Arthur and Goron literally just put 227 00:16:23,475 --> 00:16:29,755 Speaker 1: Trump out of business here now. Metaphorically speaking, it is 228 00:16:29,875 --> 00:16:33,235 Speaker 1: up to Judge Chutkin to do exactly the same thing. 229 00:16:38,435 --> 00:16:41,875 Speaker 1: Also of interest in this three hundredth edition of the 230 00:16:41,955 --> 00:16:48,075 Speaker 1: podcast Good God. Three hundred episodes in four hundred and 231 00:16:48,195 --> 00:16:53,835 Speaker 1: twenty three days. Well, what's coming up? What's the opposite 232 00:16:53,835 --> 00:16:56,995 Speaker 1: of breaking news? Former baseball hero Kurt Shilling is a really, 233 00:16:57,035 --> 00:17:01,195 Speaker 1: really dangerous, hate filled man with a bad memory. And 234 00:17:01,355 --> 00:17:03,835 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior says he doesn't know what actually 235 00:17:03,875 --> 00:17:07,795 Speaker 1: happened on September eleventh. I know neither of these qualifies 236 00:17:07,795 --> 00:17:11,035 Speaker 1: as breaking news. Three hundred episodes in four hundred and 237 00:17:11,035 --> 00:17:13,755 Speaker 1: twenty three days. I'm going to have to revisit some oldies, 238 00:17:14,075 --> 00:17:18,715 Speaker 1: but goodies somewhere right. That's next. This is Countdown. This 239 00:17:18,795 --> 00:17:26,595 Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith Olberman. This will be a full 240 00:17:26,675 --> 00:17:30,275 Speaker 1: sports report. This will simply be a brief farewell and 241 00:17:30,435 --> 00:17:35,235 Speaker 1: thanks and tribute to Brooks Robinson. I don't think enough 242 00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:38,315 Speaker 1: people in baseball today understand that Brooks Robinson was the 243 00:17:38,315 --> 00:17:41,355 Speaker 1: greatest third baseman to ever play the game. Certainly defensively 244 00:17:41,435 --> 00:17:44,355 Speaker 1: and offensively. He was enough to lead the Orioles to 245 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:47,515 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty six World Series championship and another one 246 00:17:47,515 --> 00:17:52,195 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy. But this is about something else. Brooks 247 00:17:52,275 --> 00:17:58,435 Speaker 1: Robinson was one of those rare sports immortals who, to 248 00:17:58,515 --> 00:18:03,395 Speaker 1: the end didn't quite believe that he was anything special. 249 00:18:04,795 --> 00:18:08,675 Speaker 1: X Robinson was nice. I think to everybody he ever met, 250 00:18:09,315 --> 00:18:12,995 Speaker 1: he treated them with respect. He deferred to them, he 251 00:18:13,075 --> 00:18:17,755 Speaker 1: complimented them. He was always available for any small task 252 00:18:17,915 --> 00:18:21,915 Speaker 1: or favor asked of him. All the fan stuff, all 253 00:18:22,035 --> 00:18:25,035 Speaker 1: the do you know Brooks Robinson? Can I meet him? Stuff? 254 00:18:25,795 --> 00:18:32,275 Speaker 1: Brooks Robinson accepted with happiness and with gratitude, as we 255 00:18:32,595 --> 00:18:49,395 Speaker 1: will accept the memory of Brooks Robinson with happiness and gratitude. 256 00:18:52,275 --> 00:18:54,715 Speaker 1: Still ahead on countdown. I don't know if you've noticed this, 257 00:18:54,795 --> 00:18:57,795 Speaker 1: but occasionally I devote time on this podcast people in 258 00:18:57,955 --> 00:19:02,995 Speaker 1: media who have helped to destroy media. Now it's that 259 00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:06,355 Speaker 1: time again, kids, ladies and germs. Meet the man who 260 00:19:06,475 --> 00:19:11,035 Speaker 1: hired Megan Kelly at NBC News and who had, in 261 00:19:11,075 --> 00:19:14,755 Speaker 1: a previous incarnation as the chief of that department, turned 262 00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:18,835 Speaker 1: MSNBC into all Monica Lewinsky. And yes, I ran into 263 00:19:18,915 --> 00:19:21,635 Speaker 1: him on the street in front of my house not 264 00:19:21,795 --> 00:19:25,875 Speaker 1: long ago. Things I promised not to tell. Coming up 265 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:27,635 Speaker 1: first time for the daily round up of the miss Grins, 266 00:19:27,675 --> 00:19:32,795 Speaker 1: Morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's persons 267 00:19:32,795 --> 00:19:36,035 Speaker 1: in the world. The bronze, former Boston Red Sox pitcher, 268 00:19:36,075 --> 00:19:39,675 Speaker 1: former ESPN baseball announcer, former are a lot of things 269 00:19:39,995 --> 00:19:44,715 Speaker 1: from which he's always been off Kurt Schilling. Twitter user 270 00:19:44,795 --> 00:19:49,875 Speaker 1: Johnny Goodtimes reports that Schilling has retweeted the infamous online 271 00:19:49,915 --> 00:19:55,195 Speaker 1: anti semit Lucas Gage, then apparently undone the retweet without 272 00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:59,075 Speaker 1: any explanation. The Gauge post quote anytime you see two 273 00:19:59,275 --> 00:20:02,555 Speaker 1: Jews in leading roles debating each other in some political 274 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:05,995 Speaker 1: or moral conversation, you were witnessing the quote Jewish question 275 00:20:06,155 --> 00:20:09,475 Speaker 1: right before your eyes. How dare this group that considers 276 00:20:09,515 --> 00:20:12,435 Speaker 1: themselves separate believe they have the right to not only 277 00:20:12,475 --> 00:20:16,435 Speaker 1: dictate to the majority of that nation unquote You get 278 00:20:16,435 --> 00:20:21,795 Speaker 1: the idea. It's anti Semitic garbage. Lucas Gage is a 279 00:20:21,835 --> 00:20:27,195 Speaker 1: scumbag in passing. I'd like to point out that once, 280 00:20:27,235 --> 00:20:30,235 Speaker 1: when he was still not a societal pariah, not a 281 00:20:30,275 --> 00:20:32,875 Speaker 1: complete one anyway, Kurt Schilling went on my old partner 282 00:20:32,995 --> 00:20:36,035 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick's radio show and announced that if he ever 283 00:20:36,115 --> 00:20:39,035 Speaker 1: met me, he would punch me in the face. This 284 00:20:39,155 --> 00:20:43,995 Speaker 1: was in about twenty twelve twenty thirteen or so Kurt 285 00:20:43,995 --> 00:20:47,155 Speaker 1: Shilling and I met in nineteen ninety three, so twenty 286 00:20:47,275 --> 00:20:50,955 Speaker 1: years before he threatened if he ever met me when 287 00:20:50,955 --> 00:20:52,835 Speaker 1: he claimed to be a fan of my work on 288 00:20:52,955 --> 00:20:55,435 Speaker 1: SportsCenter and he was pitching for the Philadelphia Phillies and 289 00:20:55,475 --> 00:20:57,475 Speaker 1: I was doing play by play of a Philadelphia Phillies 290 00:20:57,515 --> 00:21:00,875 Speaker 1: game on ESPN. Then in nineteen ninety seven, Shilling and 291 00:21:00,915 --> 00:21:03,635 Speaker 1: I were both part of the NBC crew that broadcast 292 00:21:03,755 --> 00:21:06,995 Speaker 1: that year's World Series. Shilling and Barry Larkin, then a 293 00:21:07,035 --> 00:21:11,515 Speaker 1: player with the Reds, did the embryotic online coverage of 294 00:21:11,555 --> 00:21:15,395 Speaker 1: the World Series. It's not Loading, and he asked me 295 00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:18,675 Speaker 1: for tips about how to do television and they interviewed me. 296 00:21:18,755 --> 00:21:21,755 Speaker 1: So Kurt is as smart as he is, honest as 297 00:21:21,795 --> 00:21:26,555 Speaker 1: he is unbigoted, which ain't much the runner up. Speaking 298 00:21:26,555 --> 00:21:31,435 Speaker 1: of which, serial plagiarist Benny Johnson had serial liar. When 299 00:21:31,475 --> 00:21:34,795 Speaker 1: President Biden joined a United Auto Workers picket line yesterday, 300 00:21:35,515 --> 00:21:38,395 Speaker 1: he said, quote, I marched a lot of UAW picket 301 00:21:38,395 --> 00:21:41,115 Speaker 1: lines when I was a Senator since nineteen seventy three. 302 00:21:41,115 --> 00:21:44,075 Speaker 1: But I tell you what, first time I've ever done it. 303 00:21:44,195 --> 00:21:49,035 Speaker 1: As President Johnson deliberately altered the quote so he could claim, 304 00:21:49,115 --> 00:21:52,395 Speaker 1: Biden said, first time I've ever done it in person. 305 00:21:53,435 --> 00:21:57,595 Speaker 1: Johnson's lie was so egregious and clumsy and obvious that 306 00:21:57,675 --> 00:22:01,315 Speaker 1: he got called out by the Pentagon correspondent of the 307 00:22:01,315 --> 00:22:05,155 Speaker 1: conservative Washington Times, and he got called out by a 308 00:22:05,195 --> 00:22:09,235 Speaker 1: conservative pundit named Carmine Sabbia, And then he got called out. 309 00:22:09,275 --> 00:22:13,275 Speaker 1: This Benny Johnson squam got called out by an advisor 310 00:22:13,355 --> 00:22:18,635 Speaker 1: to Carrie Lake. When Carrie Lake's advisors say, you're doing 311 00:22:18,675 --> 00:22:22,195 Speaker 1: it wrong, man, you must really be doing it wrong. 312 00:22:22,995 --> 00:22:24,635 Speaker 1: By the way, good time to mention if you hear that. 313 00:22:24,755 --> 00:22:28,915 Speaker 1: Trump and Biden both went to see striking auto workers. 314 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:33,035 Speaker 1: Not quite another media fail. Trump is going to an 315 00:22:33,075 --> 00:22:36,995 Speaker 1: event today, reportedly arranged at a non union auto plant 316 00:22:37,235 --> 00:22:40,755 Speaker 1: and reportedly organized by the National Right to Work Foundation, 317 00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:43,515 Speaker 1: which is exactly what it sounds like, and which is 318 00:22:43,555 --> 00:22:46,715 Speaker 1: taking time out from its busy attempts to bring back 319 00:22:46,755 --> 00:22:50,595 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century and decertify the union at Starbucks to 320 00:22:50,675 --> 00:22:52,915 Speaker 1: help Trump out a little bit in the middle of 321 00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,235 Speaker 1: an auto strike. Trump is going to meet with a 322 00:22:55,235 --> 00:22:59,715 Speaker 1: group of scabs. But our winner, Trump stooge Robert F. 323 00:22:59,795 --> 00:23:02,715 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior. If you're wondering why he is like this. 324 00:23:02,915 --> 00:23:05,475 Speaker 1: It is because every time he sees a third rail 325 00:23:05,995 --> 00:23:09,715 Speaker 1: he has to grab it and kiss it. Did a 326 00:23:09,755 --> 00:23:13,555 Speaker 1: podcast with the CNN National security analyst Peter Bergen and 327 00:23:13,795 --> 00:23:16,235 Speaker 1: RFK Junior brought up nine to eleven and asked whether 328 00:23:16,275 --> 00:23:19,355 Speaker 1: Bergen bought the nine eleven Commission's explanation that it was 329 00:23:19,435 --> 00:23:22,995 Speaker 1: al Qaeda. Kennedy then confessed, quote, I don't know what 330 00:23:23,115 --> 00:23:25,355 Speaker 1: happened on nine to eleven. I mean, I understand what 331 00:23:25,475 --> 00:23:29,395 Speaker 1: the official explanation is. I understand that there is dissent. 332 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:33,035 Speaker 1: I know there's strange things that happened. One of those 333 00:23:33,075 --> 00:23:36,275 Speaker 1: buildings came down that wasn't hit by a plane, as 334 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:41,195 Speaker 1: it beld Eggsaven or Belding Tan. It was Area fifty one, Bob, 335 00:23:41,235 --> 00:23:45,555 Speaker 1: you're thinking of Area fifty one. Bobby, grab that third 336 00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:48,555 Speaker 1: rail and kiss it and then make sweet sweet love 337 00:23:48,635 --> 00:23:49,835 Speaker 1: do it. Kennedy Junior. 338 00:23:50,235 --> 00:24:03,955 Speaker 2: Two days worst person I know, as usual. 339 00:24:04,035 --> 00:24:07,315 Speaker 1: I heard an Lac before I saw him. I met 340 00:24:07,355 --> 00:24:09,715 Speaker 1: him first in nineteen ninety seven and spoke to him 341 00:24:09,755 --> 00:24:11,555 Speaker 1: on the phone a couple of times and realized he 342 00:24:11,595 --> 00:24:14,395 Speaker 1: was another one of those people you could hear without 343 00:24:14,515 --> 00:24:20,115 Speaker 1: actually using the phone. Married to this foghorn is his 344 00:24:20,275 --> 00:24:23,635 Speaker 1: utter fascination with himself. As I saw him approach from 345 00:24:23,675 --> 00:24:25,675 Speaker 1: the east as my dog and I walked from the west, 346 00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:28,475 Speaker 1: I tried to make myself small and invisible, but I 347 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:31,755 Speaker 1: really had nothing to worry about. As usual, Andy Lack 348 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:34,675 Speaker 1: was so absorbed with the sound of his own voice 349 00:24:34,675 --> 00:24:36,995 Speaker 1: and the brilliant points he was making, that I could 350 00:24:37,035 --> 00:24:41,635 Speaker 1: have blasted hello, Andy Adam threw a bull horn and 351 00:24:41,675 --> 00:24:44,755 Speaker 1: he would never have noticed. On the other hand, I 352 00:24:44,915 --> 00:24:48,915 Speaker 1: noticed again that phenomenon of his career and life, that 353 00:24:48,995 --> 00:24:54,355 Speaker 1: his wife Betsy looks a little like every woman anchor 354 00:24:54,475 --> 00:24:58,755 Speaker 1: he has ever hired. It was Andy Lack who, in 355 00:24:58,795 --> 00:25:01,715 Speaker 1: his second and finally incarnation as the head of NBC News, 356 00:25:01,995 --> 00:25:04,675 Speaker 1: decided that Megan Kelly should be brought over from fire 357 00:25:05,275 --> 00:25:08,795 Speaker 1: and given a reported sixty nine million dollars over three years. 358 00:25:08,835 --> 00:25:12,595 Speaker 1: Because I forget what he said, but the actual answer 359 00:25:12,755 --> 00:25:15,795 Speaker 1: was she looked like his wife when she was younger. 360 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:20,235 Speaker 1: As several of my remaining friends at NBC had told me, 361 00:25:20,275 --> 00:25:23,075 Speaker 1: he had already demoted a couple of the minority anchors 362 00:25:23,115 --> 00:25:26,475 Speaker 1: on MSNBC to make room for women anchors he liked 363 00:25:26,955 --> 00:25:32,115 Speaker 1: who look like his wife. At various stages of her life. 364 00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:35,715 Speaker 1: He probably never heard any of the racist, stupid, moronic 365 00:25:35,755 --> 00:25:38,035 Speaker 1: things Megan Kelly had said on the air, nor any 366 00:25:38,075 --> 00:25:40,235 Speaker 1: of the warnings he had been given about here, because 367 00:25:40,515 --> 00:25:46,515 Speaker 1: he was always talking, talking, talking makes me look like 368 00:25:46,595 --> 00:25:50,675 Speaker 1: a mute. Back in nineteen ninety eight at MSNBC, the 369 00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:54,195 Speaker 1: little sputtering nightly news magazine show Lack had hired me 370 00:25:54,235 --> 00:25:57,555 Speaker 1: to do suddenly exploded. We went from literally seventy or 371 00:25:57,595 --> 00:26:01,075 Speaker 1: eighty thousand viewers a night in total, to a million, 372 00:26:01,435 --> 00:26:03,235 Speaker 1: then to a million and a half, then to two 373 00:26:03,315 --> 00:26:06,435 Speaker 1: million a night, just as long as we continued to 374 00:26:06,475 --> 00:26:11,995 Speaker 1: mention Bill Clinton and or Monica s Lewinsky. So after 375 00:26:12,035 --> 00:26:14,995 Speaker 1: a couple of months of this, I decided to quit. 376 00:26:16,595 --> 00:26:19,155 Speaker 1: I had just left the office of my new therapist, 377 00:26:19,275 --> 00:26:22,115 Speaker 1: having spent most of the hour talking about the craziest 378 00:26:22,115 --> 00:26:26,035 Speaker 1: person I had yet met in broadcasting, Andy Lack, the 379 00:26:26,075 --> 00:26:28,755 Speaker 1: president of NBC News, when my phone rang out on 380 00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:31,995 Speaker 1: twenty third Street in New York, and it was Andy Lack. 381 00:26:34,555 --> 00:26:36,835 Speaker 1: The background here is that the problem, in short, was 382 00:26:36,835 --> 00:26:39,555 Speaker 1: that we had turned my not too successful magazine show 383 00:26:39,555 --> 00:26:42,315 Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety seven into the all Bill Clinton, Monica 384 00:26:42,395 --> 00:26:45,435 Speaker 1: Lewinsky showed nineteen ninety eight that there was not enough 385 00:26:45,715 --> 00:26:49,235 Speaker 1: new news about them. Every night did not matter. We 386 00:26:49,315 --> 00:26:52,075 Speaker 1: did at least one show a night, often too often 387 00:26:52,115 --> 00:26:55,995 Speaker 1: for two hours each. If Monica Lewinsky's lawyer said anything 388 00:26:55,995 --> 00:26:58,275 Speaker 1: more detailed than no comment, we stayed on the air 389 00:26:58,315 --> 00:27:02,595 Speaker 1: until we ran out of guests. The whole thing, including 390 00:27:02,595 --> 00:27:07,555 Speaker 1: television's crazed wall to wall reaction, was a carefully planned 391 00:27:07,635 --> 00:27:10,355 Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich plot in which he thought he could actually 392 00:27:10,355 --> 00:27:14,995 Speaker 1: impeach Clinton and then somehow impeach President Al Gore before 393 00:27:15,075 --> 00:27:18,075 Speaker 1: President Gore could get a new vice president confirmed, which 394 00:27:18,075 --> 00:27:22,195 Speaker 1: would mean the new new president would be Newt Gingrich. 395 00:27:24,155 --> 00:27:27,835 Speaker 1: So I wanted out because we were no longer just 396 00:27:28,035 --> 00:27:31,555 Speaker 1: covering this, we were participating in it. I said, let 397 00:27:31,595 --> 00:27:34,995 Speaker 1: me leave, or let me do something else, change the topic, 398 00:27:35,115 --> 00:27:39,195 Speaker 1: because I'm done. The problem was every time I said 399 00:27:39,235 --> 00:27:42,515 Speaker 1: something like I'm done, or I let my cynicism about 400 00:27:42,515 --> 00:27:45,195 Speaker 1: the story escape on the air, the ratings went up. 401 00:27:45,995 --> 00:27:48,555 Speaker 1: The year before, MSNBC was lucky to get one hundred 402 00:27:48,635 --> 00:27:52,795 Speaker 1: thousand viewers for one fifteen minute period a month. Now 403 00:27:52,835 --> 00:27:54,875 Speaker 1: we were upset if we did not get a million 404 00:27:54,955 --> 00:27:59,675 Speaker 1: viewers a minute MSNBC was actually making money, and that 405 00:27:59,795 --> 00:28:03,195 Speaker 1: was almost entirely because of my shows. So when I 406 00:28:03,275 --> 00:28:06,715 Speaker 1: wanted to quit, people like an wanted not to kill me, 407 00:28:07,435 --> 00:28:10,235 Speaker 1: but to force me to stay there and keep talking 408 00:28:10,795 --> 00:28:13,515 Speaker 1: like that woman who does the news on North Korean television. 409 00:28:14,435 --> 00:28:17,635 Speaker 1: To make that possible, Andy Lack tried everything, promises that 410 00:28:17,755 --> 00:28:20,035 Speaker 1: I and not Brian Williams, would be the next anchor 411 00:28:20,075 --> 00:28:22,715 Speaker 1: of NBC Nightly News once he got rid of Tom Brokaw, 412 00:28:23,155 --> 00:28:28,795 Speaker 1: more money, time off, threats, threats against my family, anything 413 00:28:28,995 --> 00:28:32,595 Speaker 1: except the first step towards letting me change the show 414 00:28:32,875 --> 00:28:36,075 Speaker 1: or leave it. The first step would have been just 415 00:28:36,195 --> 00:28:40,075 Speaker 1: talk to me, face to face. That was what he 416 00:28:40,115 --> 00:28:42,635 Speaker 1: was calling to talk about on the warm afternoon of 417 00:28:42,675 --> 00:28:46,195 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh of May nineteen ninety eight. How he 418 00:28:46,195 --> 00:28:49,995 Speaker 1: couldn't talk to me. It was exactly as crazy as 419 00:28:50,075 --> 00:28:53,275 Speaker 1: it sounds, and it underscored what I saw that Friday 420 00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:56,675 Speaker 1: evening on my dog walk. You think I can talk, 421 00:28:57,115 --> 00:29:01,675 Speaker 1: Holy cow. First I asked Lack if I could come 422 00:29:01,675 --> 00:29:03,275 Speaker 1: into his office to talk to him about it. He 423 00:29:03,275 --> 00:29:05,835 Speaker 1: said no. Asked him if we could talk about it 424 00:29:05,835 --> 00:29:08,035 Speaker 1: on the phone. At some point he said no. Then 425 00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:10,915 Speaker 1: he proceeded to talk about it well, he began, if 426 00:29:10,915 --> 00:29:13,195 Speaker 1: you're calling about this meeting of life business, if you 427 00:29:13,355 --> 00:29:14,995 Speaker 1: just want to stir the pot about how you're not 428 00:29:15,075 --> 00:29:16,955 Speaker 1: satisfied with the show at the moment, I might add, 429 00:29:16,995 --> 00:29:19,275 Speaker 1: only at the moment the nuance and subtleties of your 430 00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:20,995 Speaker 1: career will, I'd have to say no, we can't meet. 431 00:29:21,155 --> 00:29:23,275 Speaker 1: Of course, in saying that I'm always available to meet 432 00:29:23,315 --> 00:29:28,475 Speaker 1: with you, I love you. But to me, he paused 433 00:29:28,635 --> 00:29:32,195 Speaker 1: for no discernible reason, possibly in the desperate attempt to 434 00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:35,955 Speaker 1: remember what he had just said in my mind. There 435 00:29:35,995 --> 00:29:39,235 Speaker 1: now appeared at the bottom of that news channel ticker 436 00:29:39,275 --> 00:29:43,195 Speaker 1: that always goes across it that flashed a message about 437 00:29:43,235 --> 00:29:45,195 Speaker 1: not worrying about what I would hear next, that all 438 00:29:45,235 --> 00:29:46,995 Speaker 1: this was just some sort of test of the Andy 439 00:29:47,075 --> 00:29:52,835 Speaker 1: Lack emergency random thoughts warning system. He suddenly resumed, It's 440 00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:54,995 Speaker 1: just not the right time, it's premature, it's too early 441 00:29:55,035 --> 00:29:56,635 Speaker 1: in the process. And in saying it's too early in 442 00:29:56,635 --> 00:29:58,755 Speaker 1: the process, I'm not saying there is a process. I'm 443 00:29:58,795 --> 00:30:01,555 Speaker 1: just saying that there shouldn't be a process yet, because 444 00:30:01,595 --> 00:30:04,035 Speaker 1: it's just not right the right time for this, and 445 00:30:04,075 --> 00:30:06,755 Speaker 1: I don't think we've explored the options fully for improving 446 00:30:06,795 --> 00:30:08,555 Speaker 1: how you see what's happening. And when I say we, 447 00:30:08,835 --> 00:30:11,915 Speaker 1: of course I mean you and Phil Griffin, you and 448 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,115 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin, because Phil's part of this process, not to 449 00:30:14,155 --> 00:30:16,715 Speaker 1: imply there is a process, but rather he's just at 450 00:30:16,755 --> 00:30:19,395 Speaker 1: the beginning of this situation, of the resolution of this situation, 451 00:30:19,595 --> 00:30:22,355 Speaker 1: not that this is a situation that requires resolution necessary, 452 00:30:22,555 --> 00:30:25,195 Speaker 1: because I think you know, in life, you have many times, 453 00:30:25,195 --> 00:30:28,115 Speaker 1: many durations, many seasons, many years where you might say 454 00:30:28,115 --> 00:30:31,235 Speaker 1: you're unhappy or discontented or in some way not pleased 455 00:30:31,235 --> 00:30:33,515 Speaker 1: with what you're doing, but you'll have plenty of opportunities 456 00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:35,595 Speaker 1: to make changes in the direction of your life. Obviously, 457 00:30:35,635 --> 00:30:38,155 Speaker 1: not now. You made these changes last year, and you 458 00:30:38,195 --> 00:30:39,995 Speaker 1: committed to it, and I committed to it, and you've 459 00:30:39,995 --> 00:30:43,395 Speaker 1: done such an outstanding job, a thoroughly outstanding job, that 460 00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,555 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much we value you. And 461 00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:47,715 Speaker 1: I was on Larry King last week and Larry said 462 00:30:47,715 --> 00:30:50,075 Speaker 1: to me, I love Olderman, and I said, I love 463 00:30:50,115 --> 00:30:51,875 Speaker 1: Olderman and he said I wish I could be doing 464 00:30:51,915 --> 00:30:54,115 Speaker 1: for you what he's doing for you. And this is 465 00:30:54,155 --> 00:30:56,395 Speaker 1: not that you should think that I'm totally blowing smoke 466 00:30:56,475 --> 00:31:00,435 Speaker 1: up your backside. But the critical acclaim, especially the insider's 467 00:31:00,435 --> 00:31:04,155 Speaker 1: critical acclaim, the people whose opinions matter, consistently rating you 468 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,795 Speaker 1: as the best on the cutting edge, and for that matter, 469 00:31:06,835 --> 00:31:09,115 Speaker 1: the ratings have been outstanding. And I'm fully committed to 470 00:31:09,115 --> 00:31:11,075 Speaker 1: you in all senses of the word. But if you 471 00:31:11,075 --> 00:31:13,155 Speaker 1: want to talk to me about in some way changing 472 00:31:13,195 --> 00:31:16,035 Speaker 1: what you're doing, it just doesn't enter into the equation. 473 00:31:16,155 --> 00:31:19,235 Speaker 1: Because things are going so well, then we're just delighted 474 00:31:19,235 --> 00:31:21,435 Speaker 1: with the program, and you need to understand that on 475 00:31:21,515 --> 00:31:23,915 Speaker 1: my radar screen, this isn't even on the fast track, 476 00:31:23,955 --> 00:31:25,955 Speaker 1: because why should I say to you, Look, I want 477 00:31:25,955 --> 00:31:28,595 Speaker 1: to change this completely successful show when it's been such 478 00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:31,235 Speaker 1: a success and a complete one and a runaway hit, 479 00:31:31,355 --> 00:31:33,555 Speaker 1: and everybody says to me, how smoothly you've made the 480 00:31:33,595 --> 00:31:36,035 Speaker 1: transition from sports, And I can't talk to you about 481 00:31:36,075 --> 00:31:38,155 Speaker 1: it because I love you. I mean, I'm fully behind 482 00:31:38,195 --> 00:31:40,635 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent, and you have my support and 483 00:31:40,715 --> 00:31:42,875 Speaker 1: my commitment and my resources and they're all at your 484 00:31:42,915 --> 00:31:45,315 Speaker 1: beck and call anytime you need them or you need me. 485 00:31:45,395 --> 00:31:47,675 Speaker 1: But there aren't problems, and I love the show and 486 00:31:47,715 --> 00:31:49,755 Speaker 1: the thought of tinkering with it or adjusting. It just 487 00:31:49,915 --> 00:31:52,155 Speaker 1: is the farthest thing from my mind right now. But 488 00:31:52,195 --> 00:31:54,395 Speaker 1: you have to understand I'm completely committed to you and 489 00:31:54,435 --> 00:31:56,795 Speaker 1: Phil then what you're doing, and I just can't talk 490 00:31:56,795 --> 00:31:58,915 Speaker 1: to you about it now, although the door is always open, 491 00:31:59,115 --> 00:32:00,795 Speaker 1: and you know you can call me and talk to 492 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:03,195 Speaker 1: me at any time about anything. And when I say 493 00:32:03,595 --> 00:32:06,635 Speaker 1: I mean anything, I don't mean this, and I can 494 00:32:06,835 --> 00:32:13,115 Speaker 1: envision changing things because I don't have to click. That 495 00:32:13,355 --> 00:32:16,315 Speaker 1: was Andy Lack, the president of NBC News, talking to 496 00:32:16,395 --> 00:32:19,475 Speaker 1: me about not talking to me about changing the Clinton 497 00:32:19,555 --> 00:32:24,755 Speaker 1: Lewinsky TV marathon. It is possible that after all these years, 498 00:32:24,835 --> 00:32:27,755 Speaker 1: I did not quote his three minute spasm of words 499 00:32:28,115 --> 00:32:31,515 Speaker 1: completely accurately. But if I did not, I got damned close. 500 00:32:33,115 --> 00:32:36,675 Speaker 1: So the next time Megan Kelly says something stupid or 501 00:32:36,675 --> 00:32:40,395 Speaker 1: tweets something stupid, and it's got to be soon, she's due, 502 00:32:40,435 --> 00:32:45,315 Speaker 1: just remember, don't just blame her, spread it around. Blame 503 00:32:45,355 --> 00:32:49,235 Speaker 1: the guy who stuck her on an actual television network 504 00:32:49,515 --> 00:32:55,475 Speaker 1: with a reputation, Andy Lack, And say your criticisms of 505 00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:58,835 Speaker 1: Andy Lack as loud as you want, because just remember, 506 00:32:59,235 --> 00:33:03,715 Speaker 1: he's going to keep talking and he'll never hear a 507 00:33:03,755 --> 00:33:19,635 Speaker 1: word of it. I've done all the damage I can 508 00:33:19,675 --> 00:33:21,715 Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown has come to 509 00:33:21,715 --> 00:33:25,075 Speaker 1: you from the studios of the Olberman Broadcasting Empire, high 510 00:33:25,075 --> 00:33:28,955 Speaker 1: atop the Sports Capsule Building in New York. The music 511 00:33:29,035 --> 00:33:31,075 Speaker 1: you've heard was, for the most part arrange produced and 512 00:33:31,115 --> 00:33:34,355 Speaker 1: performed by Countdown musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanel. 513 00:33:34,715 --> 00:33:37,475 Speaker 1: Brian Ray handled the guitars, bass and drums. John Phillip 514 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:40,595 Speaker 1: Schanel did the orchestration and keyboards. It was produced by 515 00:33:40,635 --> 00:33:45,475 Speaker 1: Tko Brothers. Other music, including our Beethoven tunes, were arranged 516 00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:48,915 Speaker 1: and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. Sports music 517 00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:51,315 Speaker 1: is courtesy of ESPN, Inc. And it was written by 518 00:33:51,355 --> 00:33:55,435 Speaker 1: Mitch Warren Davis. We called the Olberman theme from ESPN two. 519 00:33:55,675 --> 00:34:00,035 Speaker 1: Our satirical and pithy musical comments are by Nancy Faust, 520 00:34:00,115 --> 00:34:03,235 Speaker 1: the best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was 521 00:34:03,235 --> 00:34:06,075 Speaker 1: my friend Tony Kornheiser, and everything else was pretty much 522 00:34:06,155 --> 00:34:09,515 Speaker 1: my fault. So that's Countdown for this the nine hundred 523 00:34:09,555 --> 00:34:13,195 Speaker 1: and ninety fifth day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup 524 00:34:13,195 --> 00:34:16,715 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Convict 525 00:34:16,835 --> 00:34:20,555 Speaker 1: him now while we still can. The next scheduled countdown 526 00:34:20,635 --> 00:34:24,155 Speaker 1: is tomorrow. Bolton says, the news warrants till then. I'm 527 00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:28,795 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman. 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