WEBVTT - 121623 What Are We Missing About Palestine? / Where Do We Go From Here? (Part 2) 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.439 Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I am your host, Rams's 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:06.880 Jah and I appreciate that you are continuing to ride 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 with us as we continue to broadcast the balance and 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.479 defend the discourse. From the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. Big 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.600 shout out to my manaq you Board, who is in 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.680 the Middle East this week changing the world. But have 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.840 no fear. We have two amazing guests in the studio 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:27.520 with us as we continue to discuss the ongoing problems 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.240 in Palestine. The gentleman to my left, my new friend 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.760 his name is Resistance is beautiful and a long standing 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.559 friend of the show, Suzanne oslo Is. They're both here 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.440 with us to have this conversation, so be sure to 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.920 stick around as we continue to have this conversation again 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.640 from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios, where we will pick 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.440 up where we left off talking about how it feels 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.440 to be in the United States when the United States 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:02.400 is actively simplified or sympathizing with pressor But first and foremost, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.720 we're going to discuss b A b A, Becoming a 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.000 Better Ally BABA and Today's babla A sponsored by Friends 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.400 of the Movement. You can sign up for the free 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.840 voter wallet from Fotmglobal dot com to support black businesses 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.440 and allied businesses as well as make an impact with 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.520 your spending. Again, that's Fotmglobal dot Com. And for today's Baba, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.759 we are going to shout out everybody who is spreading 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.760 the word on the goings on in Palestine, and we 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.200 are going to ask you to do the same. I'm 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.479 certainly doing my part. And that's not to say don't 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.480 be critical, that's not to say be one side, to 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.520 be biased anything like that. But if you see something 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.360 and you feel in your heart that it's wrong, please 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.919 speak up. That's that's what I'm trying to do today. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.080 I'd like for you both to you know, offer up 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.000 your social media's as well, because you know there's perhaps 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.440 ways people can support both. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:56.560 Of Sure, Suzanna to go first. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:57.639 Yes to Zann please first. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.760 So my name is suzanneya team and my Instagram handle 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.760 where I hang out. Please don't try to find me 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.360 anywhere else it's too hard. Is Sue's s u z 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.240 y A T I M A s l A M. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.560 And then mine is Resistance is Beautiful. You can find 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.000 me on Instagram, on TikTok and any platform. Probably I'm 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.520 going to start making as many as I can to 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.480 get the word out about the genocide and Palestine. So yeah, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.440 resistance is beautiful. Please follow me, send me a message, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.880 and let's hit the streets together. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.400 Sure. Sure, And you know we mentioned at the top 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.320 of the show Sean King, he's another person. But if 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.960 you are uninformed or under informed, there's a lot of 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.240 connective tissue there for you to tap into to become 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.800 more educated about what is happening on the ground in Gaza. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.680 And there are human beings that need allies. And if 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.600 you wish to become a better ally, hopefully we will 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.200 have given you enough. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.639 To take some action. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.960 So we appreciate that. So let's get back to this 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:07.160 conversation we've been having now we left off again. It's 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.280 important to say this because I realized that a lot 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.800 of people can co opt a narrative or pull something 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.560 from our conversation that isn't strictly speaking, what we're trying 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.160 to say in this conversation. What we're doing is being 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.000 critical of a government. On this show, we are critical 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.160 of governments. That's what we do. Government, government entities, white 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:29.200 supremacist institutions, you name it. That's what we do right, familiar. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.919 We want these institutions to be better and to work 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.960 for all people and to be equitable, and so in 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.120 this conversation we will be critical of the Israeli government 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.080 that in no way is a reflection of the human 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.880 beings that live in Israel and certainly not indicative of 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.640 how we feel about Jewish people. We started this conversation yea, 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.400 with love for our Jewish fri and sisters. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.560 We can be critical of the Chinese government without hating 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.120 the Chinese or hating religion, religions practiced by the Chinese. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.400 Perfect, perfect, Thank you, sir. So you both live in 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:08.880 the United States of America, How does that feel to 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.800 have the government here sending This government's. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:18.760 Been hijacked completely by Zionism. And the reality is that 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.440 the money that we make here in America should be 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.000 spent in America. And the reality is that the Republicans 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.360 and Democrats all come back after they've killed millions in 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.280 Iraq and Afghanistan and say we're so sorry. Right today, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.760 Democrats and Republicans say that was wrong. We should have 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.039 never killed those Iraqis in those Afghanis. One point five 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.080 million Iraqis were murdered by the United States government, according 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.120 to the British Medical Journal, one point five million. And 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.360 yet they want to convince us of more and more wars. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.120 The money should be used that we make here in America. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.520 That's what the money should be used for, to improve 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.760 our healthcare, our education, you name it. It should be used here. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.800 But how much does America give Israel. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.000 Point eight billion dollars a year? 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.000 Three point eight billion? 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.560 This came to the right show, Keep going, keep going. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.160 Absolutely, it's obvious. You just have to open your eyes. Sure, sure, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.240 I mean, this is our hard earned money. Speak to 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.920 any American one on one and they'll probably tell you 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.000 know what, you're right. I agree with you. I mean, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.839 this is not I don't believe in any way. This 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.720 is extreme, an extreme belief. You know, this is Sit 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.640 down with any American, talk to them like this and 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:22.800 they'll tell you're probably right. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:29.599 So my view on it has been you don't know 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.640 what you don't know. And there has been a very 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:39.200 clear agenda by to your point, hijacked government who wants you, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.159 the citizen of America, to think a very specific thing, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.840 and they have their very specific goals. To our earlier 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.920 conversation about a military base, in the Middle East. I 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.279 want one. And so there's it goes so deep. But 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.559 here's here's what we want. You've heard propaganda your whole 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.760 life and asking you could you just wait and could 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.120 you open your hearts just a little bit and could 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.960 you actually listen to our stories. We have stories, we 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.560 are connected to that land, and maybe before you form 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.840 an opinion, could you just hear what we have to say. Yeah, 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.200 And when I talk to Americans one on one, to 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.640 your point, that's what I get. I get people who 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.960 are going, oh okay, And so I have problems with 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.440 the American government who doesn't. But when I talk to 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.840 people one on one, they they are beautiful and they're 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.400 open and they are willing to have that conversation. And 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:33.920 that is all that we're asking. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.000 The American government in no way, shape or form represents 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.960 the American people. It is completely hijacked. Yeah, it is 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.719 completely and and you know, and the reality is three 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.400 point eight billion dollars of our tax money going to 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:51.279 Israel to murder children, to ethnically cleanse, to commit a 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.560 genocide is unacceptable. And as an American who pays taxes, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.200 I'm offended completely. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.440 I would like to to add because you know, for 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.240 a lot of people this even though this is happening 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:07.320 right now and there is a significant number of access 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.720 points into what's going on, the long standing narrative exists 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.320 with really black people, really like kind of oppressed people 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:14.840 in this land. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:15.120 Right. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.600 So what I want to say in solidarity, in the 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.400 spirit of fellowship, is that for me, you know, I 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.320 lived a big part of my life being. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:28.840 Cool. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:31.920 You know, I got to be cool. I got to 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.960 meet the rappers and whatever what all that stuff, right, 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.600 It was on the radio, right, And then I started 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.400 doing this show and then been doing the show for 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.560 three years, and then I had to do the way 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.560 black history fact finding out about all these atrocities that 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:52.920 were government sanctioned atrocities that happened against my people. And 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.560 how you know, people think of black people as like, oh, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.000 you're poor, you know all this stuff, and it's like, man, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:00.640 you know, we didn't used to be poor, and then 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.480 now we got poor. And then everybody we know who 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.600 took it and they it was the law that they 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.440 could take it, and all this stuff. And then people say, oh, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.920 well you you black people, you have a victim mentality 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.680 and you need to you know, you you you have 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.960 selective outrage. Why are you always mad at the police, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.600 And we're like, well, the police have all the money, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 and you know, poverty is what informs crime rates. And 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.080 there's a critical process to fixing these things. So it's 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.120 not selected outrages as much as it's one foot in 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.120 front of the other. We have to start with this outrage. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.160 And and so I said that to say, I can 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:35.440 only imagine what it feels like, yeah, to be in 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.560 an active like like this type of war zone, because 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.360 I had never seen my people be bombed on this land, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.719 of course, but from a from a from a spiritual perspective, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.600 I know exactly how it feels when a government turn 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.200 their back on There's. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.080 A book called The Color of Money. Okay, yes, I've 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.360 heard of this, and it talks about specifically how banks 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.760 ensured that African Americans couldn't succeed. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.640 Yeah. In fact, real quick, last last I believe it 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.800 was the last show or the show before we talked 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.000 about a bank robbery. There was a slave bank that 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.240 that popped up. It was run by white men and 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.280 it was you know, it was a government institution. Abraham 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.679 Lincoln signed it in the law. But they require they 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.840 stole billions of people of money from these black Civil 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.240 Civil War soldiers and ex slaves as they made money 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.720 and they deposited, and it was just sto This is 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.520 before redlining, This was during Jim Crow, This was doing 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.720 all that. This is just And then of course we 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.920 know about massacres, We know about you know, flooding black 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.680 owned land and just to to to sweep the black 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.920 people out. We know about all these things, and today's 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.640 show is not about that. But I want you to 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.120 know that if there is that feeling, that it is 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.120 shared here and that this is a safe space for that, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.120 you know, for that to exist. Now I do want 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.800 to talk about really I want to I want to 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.679 talk about your resistance, your forms of act that are 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.560 novel and creative, because we have a lot of people 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:11.760 who are activist slash activist adjacent that listen to this 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.719 show that appreciate sort of the creative ways that we 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.680 deal with things. Yeah, and so your type of activism 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.640 when you when you first got this letter and you said, 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.480 you know, I was taught by you were talking to 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.640 the black officers, and I was taught by your people 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.360 how to resist. Yeah, and then to see you know 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.640 what you did on Black Friday. You know, I want 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.840 you to speak to that and let us know where 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.920 your mind goes when the time comes to be active. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.040 So for us Palestinians, we have a statue of Nelson 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.280 Mandela in the West Bank. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:44.560 That's special. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:45.320 I forgot about that. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.760 Yeah, that's very special. I mean you talk about icon. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.040 You know, Malcolm X always would say, I'm going to 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.760 take my values and my morals from my occupier. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.400 Oh my gosh, that like it's through my veins, you know. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.280 So when the officer came, I just just telling him 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.640 what I learned from my heroes, you know what I mean. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:15.280 And yeah, there it is Palestine, and I know that 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.600 when I was speaking to that officer, I know that 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.200 it rang true. And the officer told me history repeats itself. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.079 That's what you told me, you know. And but doesn't 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.199 mean you stay complacent and what I tell him to. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.960 Thank you for this trespassing notice, thank you for the ticket, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.360 thank you for whatever. I have a court date coming up. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:36.240 Thank you so much. I'll be back onto the streets louder, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.800 more often and stronger. It won't stop me. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.720 That's That's where I want us to lean in. So 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.679 you also mentioned something to me before you were protesting 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.640 at a mall, a number of malls. Then, you know, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.600 the people asked you to leave the mall, leave the 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.040 grounds or whatever, and you told me something. It was beautiful, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.480 you said, I take it as a sign from God 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.360 that and I don't want to stay. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.800 You're pretty sure, I'll say it's sure. So as a Muslim, 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.439 you know, we pray five times a day, worship stand. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.920 We pray, worship no matter what, even if a genocide 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.280 is happening against our people. We don't stop our prayers 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.240 as we worship a Lah no matter what. He is 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.520 the King, he is the creator. And at the end 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.480 of every prayer, I always say the same thing, yeah Allah, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.000 Oh God, use me as your tool to spread awareness 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.880 about the genocide happening against Palestinians, whatever that may be. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.320 You want ten people to see me, great. You want 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.280 me to show up on this podcast on the radio, fantastic, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.240 I'll take it. When the officers come to me, they 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:37.920 say you can't stand here, I tell him, no problem. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.720 Where do you want me to stand? He says, stand 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.079 at that street light, and you'll see in video after 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.280 a video after video they move me from light to 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.280 light to light, and I see that as God's hand 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.440 at work, because every time I get moved, I get 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.439 moved to a busier and busier and busier intersection. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:54.360 I love it. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.840 I was at the first stop sign that you saw, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.160 and they moved me over to Scottsville Road in the 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.719 entrance of Fashion Square. Then they move me overwhere to 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.240 scott Still and Camelback, which is that's bigger, even bigger, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.160 and the same. When I wherever I go, I do 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.000 the same thing. I see it as God moving me 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.199 from place to place. Because that's it. I have completely 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.640 committed myself to this. I said, yeah, oh God, use 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.640 me as a tool whatever you want it. That's what 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:19.880 I do. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:25.480 I think that you know, there's there's a reason why 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.440 you have so many people following you, so many people 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.240 seeing your videos. But also I think that you know 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.600 the people that are maybe just be getting acquainted with 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.400 what it is you're doing right now. I think that 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:46.840 what your activism does is it suggests that all forms 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:53.640 of activism can be meaningful correct, and that if people 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.120 really believe, Because what I get from you every time 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:01.280 we talk is that there is a profile found belief 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.959 that exists in you and indeed Palestinian people. And I've 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.920 known this to be true long before October seventh about 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.360 people from the Middle East, Yes, and people who are 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:19.120 are Muslim and people who speak Arabic or Uru or 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.040 any of these languages. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:21.720 Is that. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:30.080 Belief is not hope, It is like it's bona belief. Yes, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.720 I believe absolutely whatever. Thanks be to God when the 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.000 good happens, and thanks be to God when the bad happens. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:42.200 You see, you know, absolutely happen everything you see. But yeah, 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.880 to your point, and I do want to mention one 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:48.800 more thing something that we believe in. Right, when occupation 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:55.960 becomes law, resistance becomes duty. Yeah, occupation becomes law, resistance 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:56.720 becomes duty. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.240 You have to resist. And there's many different ways of resisting. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.200 You can vote, you can civil disobedience, you can protest. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.040 You can call a senator like Mark Kelly who supports 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.640 Israel killing Palestinians. Mark Kelly, the senator in Arizona. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.840 He gets money from apac Apak is a lobbyist group 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.880 here in America that works for the Israeli government and 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:22.720 pays off all of our politicians. Aipac Apak pays off 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.160 all of these politicians. Why do you think they keep 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.320 saying what death and Gaza? What? Nothing's happening. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.760 Here's the one thing that Democrats agree on. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.120 Yeah, did you see because they're paid well, like mar Kelly, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.280 he got paid between two hundred and fifty thousand to 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.120 five hundred thousand by a pack. They give money to 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 all of our politicians and they buy them out. So 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.560 then when you look at them and you say that's weird, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.240 why are they like acting like nothing's happening because they 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.080 got paid by a pack. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.560 So let me ask you this. Yeah, I saw something. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.160 This was kind of a while ago. Now, Yeah, there 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.800 was a woman who she might have been a congresswoman. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.360 Uh and maybe she was even palist in. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.600 Rashida Trashida Klieb. Did they did they tell her that 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.600 she couldn't Yes, you, well, she's getting in. Yeah, they're 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.720 giving a lot of heat even in Congress silence censured her. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.560 Yeah, that's like she was here. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.400 She tried to come here to a su which is 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:19.360 I thought, that's why. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.280 That's why I was there. Okay, but then they didn't 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.800 told her that she's not allowed to speak. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.440 As Yeah, so a student group invited her and then 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.880 some people didn't like that. She's a Palsingian congresswoman. She's 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.160 the only Palasini in congress woman. She said, from the 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.520 river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Congress censured 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.760 her for that, even though other congress people have said, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.200 we're going to turn Gaza into a parking lot. Let's 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.040 put that aside for a minute. What I thought was 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.480 really weird, and a friend and notified me today about it. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.160 So she wasn't allowed to speak at this student organization 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.040 at Arizona State University. A few days later, guess who 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.720 came to talk at Arizona State University. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:53.640 Joe R. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.920 Pyo, who was a convicted felon and Arizona is paying 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.640 so much money because of what he did. But he 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.600 came and he got to speak because he's I think 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.359 running again for mayor and Fountain Hills. Why is he 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.120 allowed to come and speak and we're not blocking him, We're. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.159 Not at a congresswoman, a congressman is not allowed to 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.280 speak at Arizona State University. And so actually there's footage 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.760 you can see footage on like on my social media 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.160 where since since outside, you know, we're all outside, we're 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.400 not allowed to go inside to hear Rashida's speech. They 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.600 have her on a laptop right her voice, and the 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.000 media is there right with their cameras and everyone's sitting 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.080 by the laptop with microphones, and it's this iconic image, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.399 like it's something that will never leave my mind. Like 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.160 that's when you know, whatever she's saying is the truth, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.200 and the Empire of Lie's truth is treason. Wait a minute, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.440 she's not allowed to go into that room speak on 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.960 a podium. A congressman has to be on a laptop 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.359 through zoom and all of the media and everyone has 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.520 their microphones on the laptop and we're all standing in 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.719 asu on property but outside of the building that's been 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.480 locked listening to her. Wow, well that's interesting. I thought 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.600 this is the land of the free. I thought, this 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.720 is the land where we can express whatever we want 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.720 to express however we want without persecution. So real, real quick. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.160 Yeah, she was censured, Yes, because. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.760 Of what she said, from the River to the Sea, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:16.959 Palestine will be free. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.520 So she said this phrase. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.720 She said that phrase so because because they think that 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.920 that means that we are asking for the genocide of 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:26.560 all Israelis. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.920 So while they're committing a genocide. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.080 People hear what they want to hear. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.639 Well, true, this is true. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.960 This is all part of it's part of the psychological propaganda. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.359 So eventually, what will happen, depending on how many years 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.120 this goes on for eventually, what will happen is they'll 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:50.480 tell you the word Palestine, the words free Palestine, are violent, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.199 are illegal. In the book nineteen eighty four written by 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:55.960 Georgia orwell, what do they do? In the book, there's 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.720 a dictionary and every year that people who work for 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.120 the government they celebrate that they remove more and more 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.720 words from the dictionary in that book. Yes, the word 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.919 revolution has been removed from the dictionary. The word resistance 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.440 has been removed from the dictionary. It's the same here. 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.840 They do not want you to say the words free, 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:14.800 free Palestine, or from the river to the sea. And 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.520 eventually it's going to it's going to grow. It's like 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.480 a cancer, right the occupier is a cancer. It'll grow. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.359 And then he'll tell you, wait a minute, don't say 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.000 the word Palestine when you go as a Palasinian. If 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.400 you go to visit Palestine right now, as a Palestine Palaesinian, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:30.920 they say where are you from? And I say Palestine? 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.280 What did the Israeli soldiers tell me there is no 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.440 such thing as Palestine. They want to take from you. 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.119 Does a cancer stop when it spreads? Does it cancer stop? 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.880 Does it ask the liver permission? Does a cancer ask 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.440 the brain permission? It does not ask. It just spreads. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.840 And that's exactly what the Israeli government is. It's a cancer. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.720 It's a cancer to Jewish people. It's a cancer to Muslims, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.480 to Christians, to Atheists, to Mormons, to Catholics. And what 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:59.959 they're trying to do with Rashida klab the only Palestinian congresswoman, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.760 is telling her the words you're choosing are genocidal. Yet 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.840 they give four billion dollars a year. They've commit actual 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.280 genocide where they're dropping bombs as we're having this conversation 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.000 right now on Palestinians. Right now, as we're having this conversation, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:19.560 the US bombs are dropping on Palestinians right this minute. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:25.600 You know what here, I'm going to say this. We're 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.000 never going to have enough time on this show. I 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:29.880 have an hour on this show, but I do want 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:34.439 to take a moment and say the more I see this, yeah, 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:40.360 the more I feel like the nation state of Israel 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:46.200 is really causing a lot more harm in the world 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.480 than healing at pressolutely. You know, once upon a time 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.720 people were up in arms about, you know, Hamas having 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.640 killed a bunch of babies, and then it recently came 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.720 out that actually that wasn't true, it was not. The 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:03.800 most they could find was too and they couldn't even 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.720