1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: All right, I guess the first thing I want to do, 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: and you know, be remiss if I didn't mention. You know, 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: I think I should say the coaching staff are scouting staff. Um. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, community relations are sports science, our strength coaches 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: are trainers. Throughout this draft process, whether it was you know, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: the combine medical, the film evaluations by the coaches, traveling 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: to pro day's um, you know, these thirty visits we've had. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's been all hands on deck for the 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: entire organization. You know, the meal room and the cafeteria, 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you name it. Everybody throughout the organization has done a 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal job through this process. You know, my first exposure 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to you know a lot of the people on the team, 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and uh, it's been nothing but great so far and 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: looking forward to you know, getting the draft a week 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: from tomorrow and you know, I think a lot of 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: the hard work will pay off. So with that being said, 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, open up for any questions the philosophy. Yes, 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: player available, and then there's still a need. How do 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: you I think where we are our roster? I think 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: you know there's several needs to to you know, to 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: put a finger on exactly what the biggest need is 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: um would be difficult. So I think if you can 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: find two really good football players at at five and seven, Um, 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's how we've stacked the board, like let's 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: just throw kneed whatever perceived needed is out. Who are 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: the best football players in this draft? And you know, 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: we've set a vertical board and we have a horizontal 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: board as well, so we're still working through that. It's 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: not completely set. There's there's some conversation still to be had, 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: but um, you know, I don't think you can go 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: wrong with drafting good football players. Said he wanted to 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: identify seven players for seven spots. How close to doing 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: that are you at this point? We're close, We're close. 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna get with the coaches. I know Dave's 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. Um, you know, the scouts just left 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so we've had some some meetings with them. 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: We kind of set the board how how we saw things, 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: and we met with the coaches and you know, got 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: their rankings and how do they see things. So there's 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: a few players where you know, we're gonna shut the 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: door and lock it and have knock knockout dragouts and uh, 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: when we come out, we're gonna make the best decision 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: for the Giants. But there's not a lot of players 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: that were you know, there's a big separation in terms 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: of how we see them. So, um, do I have 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: seven right now? Yeah? As a as a personnel staff, 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, we actually did like a one through you know, 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: a hundred vertically, you know, as a as an exercise. Um, 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: but we're gonna get with the coaches and just make 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: sure that we you know, we're on board with not 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: just seven. If there's a move back scenario whatever that is. Um, 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: do we have ten, fifteen, you know, twenty players that 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: we like and make sure we get them in the 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: right order as football players to separated by one pick? 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: How much of this process are you trying to figure 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: out what CAROLINEA might do? Is that factor in how 57 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: you might order your picks? Yeah? Yeah, I've I've thought 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: about that several times. You know, what are they doing, 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out what position they might go? 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Because that will make a make a difference in what 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: you do. You know, if you're if you're sitting there 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: at five and there's somebody you really like and there's 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: two other players that maybe at the same position that 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: you like as well, or just two players in general 65 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: that you're happy with, um, regardless of position. That can 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: also you know, factor into who you take at number five. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, if you've got a crystal ball, I'd love 68 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: to see it. But that's we're going through several of 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: several of those scenarios. Who may be there, you know, 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: if they are, you know how how we're gonna you know, 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: go through and make the pick what we're gonna don 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: should I need an interview with the team's website that 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: you'd like to get as many at bats as possible. 74 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Roster building is never really a one year thing. But 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: are you approaching it this year as a one year 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: thing or you may be looking to get some adds 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: for down the line. Yeah. Both, I'd be open to both, 78 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: you know again, just I said it in my introductory 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: press conference. You know, we still want to compete today 80 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: and build for tomorrow, so you know, playing both sides 81 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of that. You know, if it's picks this year or 82 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: picks into the future. Um, you know again, those are 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: cost controlled assets that young players that you know could 84 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: really help us set the foundation here. So I'd be 85 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: open to either or the offensive tappic group coming out. 86 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Everybody told Neal and Quantum, but how about Shaw's close 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: in Mississippi State. Should he be in that conversation with 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: those two and do you project him as like a 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: top ten pick at his draft. I'm gonna give yard board. Yeah, 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk about, you know, any specifics or something. 91 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Charles is a really good player, you know, really good feet. 92 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: You know, we like him. Whether he should be up 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: in that group or not, Um, you know, that's for 94 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: everybody to decide. We'll see how it falls on draft night, 95 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: and then over time we'll see how it plays out. 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: But um, you know, all three of those players that 97 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned are are talented and and good players, and 98 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: they're great kids, and I think they all have bright futures. 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Off line here has been like an unsolvable rubic fume 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: for years now. How committed are you and your staff 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: to leading the draft believing you can put a capable, 102 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: perhaps even occasionally dominant offensive line on the field starting 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: in September. Yeah. I think they've said earlier to like, 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line is important, and there's several other posi 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: actions that are important for us to go compete and 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: and I understand again I wasn't here in the past. 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly you know everything that went on, 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I'm privy to you know. Recently, you know where the 109 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: offensive line was, and we tried through free agency with 110 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: the resources we have UM to upgrade the offensive line 111 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: the best we can and that will continue through the draft. 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: And again, I you know, if you want to build 113 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: it up both sides of the ball, build it up front. 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: You know, offensive line, you know, that's that's very important. 115 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: And you know, to get our best version of say 116 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: Kwan Daniel, you know, entire offense. That to your point, 117 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be very important, you know, to get that right, 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: whether it's running the ball or pass protection, so um 119 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: that that will definitely be a priority. You know, if 120 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: it's it's just the the need, the value, um where 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: that is, like, you just gotta make sure it mirrors up. 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the same boat, you know if 123 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: you try to force it and it's it's not the 124 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: right value, and we're sitting up here next year saying 125 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, yeah, we needed a guard, so 126 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: we reached for him, but the value wasn't right. So 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you gotta make sure when those two you know, meet 128 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: and they mirror each other, then that's when you're gonna 129 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: make the best decity talked about the possibility of how 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: do you how do you balance? You know, if they're 131 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: a guy on the board that you really love versus 132 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: you've got a really good trade offering, like those two 133 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: options on the table. Yeah, I've been there before. Like 134 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: you get greedy and you're like, let's move back and 135 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: then that guy's gone. You know, are you gonna sleep 136 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: better at night knowing you've got an extra sixth round 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: pick and you move back four spots but you lose 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: the guy you want or you just let's just take 139 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: the guy and not be greedy. So you played through 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: all those situations. Um, you know again, that's why sometimes 141 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I'll do a vertical board, just how many players are available? 142 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Who do we like if we move back x amount 143 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: of spots, are we're gonna get one of these five guys? Yes, 144 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: then it makes sense and you get an extra pick. So, um, 145 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: it's not something I have to do. Um, but we'll 146 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: we'll take phone calls, we'll listen, you know, we'll analyze 147 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: it and then you know, we'll call the team back. 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: If they're calling and let him know if we'll do 149 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: it or not. Draft and you get the number one 150 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: corner back in the drift, you know, because you're drafting 151 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: so high, I would think you're approaching and your whole 152 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: operations are coaches different, Whether James brad every time and 153 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: get the truck he's not on. It's the number one 154 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: cornerback either here or not here. Do you think he 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: can't be here? And if he's not, how much does 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: that affect? How do you going to the trap? So 157 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: what's your your questions more about James, not both? I 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: mean if James, you know, if you think James, there's 159 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a number one corner there at five, Okay, 160 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: you get through crystal Ball. Um, well we'll see. I 161 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Ye again, I don't know who the number 162 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: one to. Um, you know, we'll figure that out. But yeah, 163 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I've had great conversations with James Bradberry's representatives. I've talked 164 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: to James. Uh, he can still play in this league. 165 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: He's still starting corner. Um. You know, we we've talked. 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't here today. But you know again, yes, 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: they're contingency plans, which I mentioned is the combine and 168 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned that the owner media owners meetings where you 169 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: know he can still be a New York Giant. Um, 170 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: we we've gotten calls on James Breadberry. Yeah, we we 171 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: have gotten calls on James Bredber. When you approach this traft, 172 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of been said you don't have 173 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: a lot of salary cap space. You need about twelve 174 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: million or so roughly, that's what's been reporting. How does 175 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that influence what you may or may not do as 176 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: far as trading, moving around and just you know how 177 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: you just approach everything. Do you not let that affect you? Yeah? 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Not in this draft. I mean we're kind of again, 179 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: we're again contingency plan. So if we stay at every pick, Okay, 180 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: this is what it's going to cost us. If we 181 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: do move back, there is a cost savings to doing that, 182 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: but that's not going to drive our decision. We're not 183 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: going to pass up on a good player, um, you know, 184 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: to especially in the draft, for for a cost savings. 185 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, that's not going to be the genesis of 186 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: that decision. That question you said, like restructuring, what sort 187 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: of last resort you did? Your dory one? Just curious 188 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the timing. Why why do it? Yeah, you know the 189 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: public websites that they have out there, So there's some 190 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: things when you're dealing with the salary cap that that 191 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: they don't necessary they don't necessarily bake in when they're 192 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: doing that stuff. So, Um, there were some things that 193 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: occurred and we we had to we had to convert 194 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: at that time. How soon in the provid this is 195 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: your first year, but just basic more experience in Buffalo. 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: How soon in before the draft do you start talking 197 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: about trade value and potential trade up and trade down 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: scenarios with other teams. Uh? Yeah, we're again head down 199 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: in meetings with coaches, scouts and everything, so having haven't 200 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: really come up for air to start thinking about that. Hey, 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: does it make sense for us to move back move up? 202 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: We're just trying to right now. We're planning as if 203 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Hey we got five and seven and you know the 204 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: rest of our picks, the second, the two thirds, etcetera. Um, 205 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: we have received calls on you know, both picks. Um, 206 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: but again it's too early. We're still working through our process. 207 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: It's more Hey, let's let's stay in contact as the 208 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: draft gets closer. Um, you know, again, we'll go through 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: those scenarios. But it's just it's too early right now 210 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to make any type of decision like that. An advantage 211 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: do you think to being an unknown quantity here? You know, 212 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: you don't have a track record, you don't have h history, 213 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: oltany nobody, nobody probably knows what you're thinking. Is there 214 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: any advantage to that? Yeah? I think there could be, 215 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: But I think we're the picks are I don't sure. 216 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's gonna play in as much it's 217 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: the it's the fifth and seventh pick, so um. You 218 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: know again, I just know we're gonna get two good players, 219 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: and you know, there's enough needs that we have that 220 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, whether I had a track record or not, 221 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think where we're gonna go. You know, 222 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really have a good sense of that. 223 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: You said you had a pretty good idea of the 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: first I think the first four rounds changed a lot 225 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: of Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We've myself and probably four 226 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: or five others have seen the entire board. So between myself, 227 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Brown, Tim McDonald, Chris Pettitt, you know, we've seen 228 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the entire board. We had a couple of national scouts 229 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: that have have seen quite a bit of the board too. 230 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: So when we have those conversations, if you're talking about, 231 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, a receiver at USC and a receiver at Tennessee, 232 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: you know you've got multiple looks on those guys that 233 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: can have those conversations. If it's just an area scout 234 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: that's seen somebody at US in an area scout at Tennessee, 235 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: they can't really enter into that conversation because they haven't 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: seen them both. So you know, multiple looks along with 237 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the coaches on you know, the entire draft board. UM. Again, 238 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: that's part of our process, you know that we believe 239 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: in that will help us lead to the best decisions. 240 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: You said you received offered are a call about the pick? 241 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Have you received any offers for the five and seven? UM? 242 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Not a hard offer? Now, we haven't gotten the negotiations, 243 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, just some teams call and say, hey, would 244 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: you be willing to move? And that's kind of where 245 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: it is right now. And you know, my my comment 246 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: was us, you know, as the draft gets closer, you 247 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: know we can talk more if there's any specifics, if 248 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: you're serious about doing I just I think some teaps 249 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: that are just fishing around those discussions and possibly if 250 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: they do reach back out to you, does the parameters 251 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: around that possible or just uh the spitballing things change 252 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: or do they come back with the new price? What 253 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: is the philosophy there? Well, it's it's a situation where 254 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm perfectly fine at five and seven. So um. 255 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: And if it makes sense and it's something that blows 256 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: your doors off, then then you think about it. If 257 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: somebody offers something, nobody has offered anything, you know hard, 258 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, offered right now. Um, And to me, it 259 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: really wouldn't make sense right now to do anything again 260 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: unless it, you know, blew the doors office. It's like 261 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: something you can't turn down. So um, I think a 262 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: lot of it. Right now, you'll see, you know the 263 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: same as me. People are starting to come out of 264 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: meetings and stepping back meeting with their coaches. And now 265 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: you get into the kind of the the planning part 266 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: of it. You know, Okay, if it's a team behind 267 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: us and they want to move up, how can we 268 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: get there? Who we call? So just some exploratory calls 269 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: is typically what will happen. Now by Monday, you'll find 270 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: out a little bit more. Who's serious y'all may figure 271 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: out before you know, who's Jacksonville gonna take? Who's Detroit? 272 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: You know all those rumors, you know, it'll pick up 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: steam next week, I think, and there will be more 274 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: serious conversations. Um if there are teams that are you know, 275 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: legit serious thinking about coming up evaluation standpoint for you 276 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: obviously have a scouting background, scout. What's the biggest lesson 277 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: that you take into this process of scouting guys that 278 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: made or maybe you're wrong guys, there something philosophically that 279 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: you look at and you say, you know what this is? 280 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: This is I believe whatever? Yeah, absolutely, you're always you 281 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: know I called the autops of report. After you make 282 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: a decision, you look back and why did it work? 283 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Why didn't it work? And you know, over you know, 284 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty one years of doing this, you you've you gotta 285 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: roll the decks of players and situations that have occurred 286 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: that you can you know, reflect on and learn from. 287 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: So to me, the biggest thing is the collaboration, you know, 288 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: between the coaching staff and the personnel staff, because it 289 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense the draft a guy if if the 290 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: coaches want no part of him, because you know they're 291 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: dead on arrival. You know, as soon as that guy, um, 292 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, if they're worried about his hands, he drops 293 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: the ball. You know, they're up in my office. Told 294 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: you couldn't catch you know, I told you you know 295 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't do so, you know, and again there's there's 296 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of um, you know, how should I 297 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: say it? Just trying to get the coaches on the 298 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: same page, you know whatever it is. Like we joke 299 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: around about being lawyers, like we're going to present our 300 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: case to the coaches. We gotta figure out how to 301 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: how to get them to where we where we want them. 302 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: So if there's somebody we really like, you know, there's 303 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: a roundabout way to maybe get them to see it 304 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: how we see it or you know. Again, so to me, 305 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: the collaboration and then has been outstanding between Dave's and 306 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: his staff. They've been busting their but they've been at 307 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: pro days. We've had thirty visits, you know, these guys 308 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: coming through here. We've got six guys in the building today, um, 309 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: that they're meeting with. So they've been phenomenal. So the 310 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: collaboration and I think, um, when the coaching staff and 311 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the personnel staff are on the same page on a 312 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: player you know, and I typically think those are the 313 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: best decisions. Were continuency plans where James, Bradberry and Custis 314 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,479 Speaker 1: lead with the Giants. How, for lack of a better word, difficult, 315 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: are those contingency plans to enact to keep someone with 316 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: his cap number here? And also, why don't you need 317 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: to know that before the draft? It would seem to 318 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: be if you do have to make a move with him, 319 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: a big hole to fill once the draft is already complete. Yeah, 320 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's a tough part about this job because 321 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: you know what, like James Bradbury is a great, great person, 322 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: like a good player. He he is like I know 323 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: the two people very well that were in Carolina that 324 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: drafted him, you know, Brandon Being and Sean McDermott. They 325 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: were there, and he's he's a player we had talked about. 326 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: So um, you know, I like the kid, I like 327 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the skill set. It's just the situation we're in from 328 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, it is what it is. But there 329 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: are ways that you know, we can still make it 330 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: work and James can be here. So you know, if 331 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: people say, well, don't you cut him or trade him 332 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. Then there's a huge void and we're going 333 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: to play it out and you know, see how the 334 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: draft goes and see what the roster looks like. And 335 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: there's still contingency plans where we can keep James on 336 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: the roster. A great person and it's actously kind of cool, 337 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: hard business. Do you have to take it or kind 338 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: of the walker room might perceive it. If let's say 339 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: you keep them longer, long longer and then cut him 340 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: and puts him in to respots, does that way into 341 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: your decision? All? Yeah, you're always taking that into decision. Yeah, 342 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: that's part of the process too. You know, you're you 343 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: think about all that things, but you know, at the 344 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, you gotta do it's best for 345 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. And he's a he's a it's 346 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: still a player that can play at a high level 347 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: and as a starting corner in the league. What's that 348 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you'd be open to reworking the contract? I know it's tough. 349 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in details, but we've got contingency plans. 350 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: I won't get into details, but we can continue. What 351 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: is your sense or intuition on you know, how they 352 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: deal with those in these drafts with quarterbacks, right, nobody 353 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: likes them, and then everybody likes them. And then you 354 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: get a sense that at five and seven the only 355 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: teams who are interested in quarterbacks that you know, that 356 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of makes this whole thing go when you we 357 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: want quarterbacks, you know, do you get a sense of 358 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: how strong the market is and you know what the 359 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: teams are thinking about these guys. Yeah, not yet. I'm 360 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: guessing that will pick up steam. But you know, right now, 361 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I haven't. I mean you call around and you asked, 362 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: nobody's really showed their hands on the quarterbacks. I mean 363 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: they really haven't. You know, we know what teams have 364 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: been where, we know what you know again, a lot 365 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: of where these kids have went on visits and private workouts, 366 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: and we track a lot of that stuff. But um, 367 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I really haven't heard a lot on you know, what 368 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: teams are high on which quarterbacks. There hasn't been a 369 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of that. Joe, you said you still want to 370 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: compete today and build for tomorrow. So how important are 371 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: these two first round picks four today and for tomorrow 372 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: for this franchise? Yeah? Very important integral, you know, I mean, 373 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: there's for Brian and I it's are first two picks, 374 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: is you know, New York Giant head coach and general managers. 375 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: So in terms of foundational pieces, in terms of being 376 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: good players and the type of people we want, it's 377 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: it's very important generally speaking. What do you how do 378 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: you view a third round pick? Should you get like 379 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: a multi year starter? Is that a place? Yeah, I 380 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to put any pressure 381 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: on the guy. I mean, again, there's the hit rate 382 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: at third round is you know, I mean there's a 383 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: margin fair street, There's a margin fair across the draft. 384 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I've had guys that you 385 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: know come in and play and they have good careers. 386 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, some guys are backups, their contributors, um special teams, 387 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like, yeah, ideally they all turn 388 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: into starters. But you know, I don't want to put 389 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: a playtime percentage or anything. It's I asked because it's 390 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: been a spot where the Johnnies have not gotten much 391 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: out of the third round. It's just been talking two 392 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: dozen five, which is a very long time ago. Yeah, 393 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, having been a scout, when you value 394 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: the third round as of starters or yeah. I mean again, 395 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: ideally they all turn into starters. You'd prefer that. Um, 396 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: just looking over the past couple of years, I mean, 397 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: we had some guy is in you know where I've 398 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: been in the past. It's taking him some time to develop, 399 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: but they turned into good players. You know, some guys 400 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, took a couple of running backs in Buffalo there, 401 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: you know they split time. Um, but again it's sometimes 402 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: it's based on the situation, injury, you know what, the success. Yeah, 403 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: so I don't want to say, yeah, this guy is 404 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: gonna be a starter and then you guys crushed me 405 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: two years from now with final say do you feel 406 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the weight of responsibility? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, it's uh position, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 407 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I want to get it right. Joe said, you're still 408 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: feeling out Don Martindale from a point in his conference, 409 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: what traits do you think you're looking for and whatever 410 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you learned about the types of players. Still, yeah, I'll 411 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: give I'll give a wink a lot of credit. Like 412 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: he's he's very open minded. You know, he likes players 413 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: with versatility. You know, he doesn't necessarily have size length parameters. 414 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: But when we watched in Baltimore, you know, film you 415 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: can just see how much he values versatility and where 416 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: he can play players and how he can put them 417 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: in their best position to succeed. So, um, he's been 418 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: really good, really clear, really defined in terms of you 419 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: know what he's looking for. But you know, the versatility 420 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: piece is, you know, one of the things that I 421 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: really appreciate from watching the Baltimore stuff with him, and 422 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, some of the stuff we're looking for coming 423 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: through your first few months of this job about players 424 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: and stuff a value in the scott and staff and 425 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: front office and guys that are doing the draft evaluations. 426 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: These are guys that really working before obviously, Yeah, absolutely's 427 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: part of it. I mean we're we're in meetings and 428 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, just going through players, whether it's reading reports 429 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: or you know, how we do interviews at the Senior 430 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: Bowl or how we do interviews at the Combine. You know, 431 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: the information we're getting back from pro days to you know, 432 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: just having a couple of weeks of meetings. You know, 433 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: you're always evaluating everybody, and some of it's just you know, 434 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: maybe we're going to do things a little bit different 435 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: in terms of our process, and you know, who's gonna 436 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: buy in, who's gonna excel who's hand all hands on deck, 437 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: and you know it was adapted and you know the 438 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: staff has done a great job with that, and it's 439 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of good people in this building 440 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: and that have done a really good job over the 441 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: last you know, three months that I've been here. It's 442 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: the biggest lesson learned watching Brandon through this process. Oh, 443 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: Brandon through this process. Um, that's a good question to me. 444 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of what I was talking about 445 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: earlier when the coaches maybe you don't see eyed you know, 446 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: how to navigate that UM consensus, build UM, get people 447 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: on the same page. If there is a different discrepancy 448 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: between personnel and the coaching and then um, you know, 449 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: I was fortunate I was in a lot of meetings 450 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: and dealing with ownership. You know, it's not something you do, 451 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: um when you're an area Scout or National Scout or whatever. 452 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: So you know my interaction, you know, being in those 453 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: meetings with Brandon and you know the Pagoulas. You know, 454 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: it's something I would have never learned along the road 455 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: if I wasn't with Brandon. So that was very valuable. 456 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: Character concerns. If there's some stuff that's like non negotia bowl. 457 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Does it hurt? Like, how do you just weigh that 458 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: if there's something there after you do a homework I 459 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: guys to get close, how do you weigh that into 460 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: your evaluation? Yeah, it weighs heavy. It weighs heavy. So 461 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: if it's if it's a guy that you know, we 462 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: don't think fits from a character standpoint, will just take 463 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: come off the board. And you know, just if he 464 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: goes on and has a really good career somewhere else, 465 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: that's fine. You know, we just gotta get it right 466 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: for what we want in our building in terms of 467 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: durability and like guys injury yesty, yeah, yep, Yeah. We 468 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: just had our medical meeting Monday night. You know, the 469 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: medical staff they've done a great job, you know, the 470 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: combine working through all these guys and then some of 471 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: the players that weren't a um Indianapolis, you know, they 472 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: weren't combined guys, you know, getting that information too. So 473 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean that we take that all in the accounting. 474 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, they're the doctors and the medical folks, so 475 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, we lean on them on you know, what 476 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: the recommendations are. You know, in terms of taking or 477 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: not taking a player? Did I used to golf when 478 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: there's a less pressure obviously. How what do you think 479 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be like next Thursday? H prod a 480 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: long Yeah, probably a long day. Yeah. I mean I'll 481 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: probably get up and just come in here. And I 482 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: mean I'm in a temporary apartment right now, so I'm 483 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna sit there. Uh, probably too anxious to golf, 484 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: so yeah, and I'll probably come in, get a workout in. 485 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Um make some phone call. You know, I'm getting call 486 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: around the league, you know, call our general managers. Um, 487 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: see if you can get any information on you know, 488 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: what's going on in front of you. And you know, 489 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: you can probably take some calls if people are calling 490 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: and looking to move up. So um, yeah, I'll be exciting. 491 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: It's it's something you dream about and you know, for 492 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: it to that day to finally be here, it'll be 493 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: it'll be really cools. Yeah, I'll be calling to try 494 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: to get information. That does be the outgoing calls. Do 495 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: you sit in your mind and say, if I take 496 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: five and seven, I know in my mind I'm gonna 497 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: get to sure fire starters. You would like to thank 498 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: that I'm again I'm not gonna label these guys are 499 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: gonna be sure fire starters. There's so many you know, 500 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: there's so much that goes into it. Again, I'm not perfect. 501 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: You're here evaluate an imperfect human being. And you know, 502 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: again I don't want to, you know, put anybody under 503 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: that type of pressure. But yeah, we're gonna get two 504 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: guys that we think fit you know, from a character standpoint, 505 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, from an athletic standpoint as a football player, 506 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: and it's going to mirror up to what we're looking for. 507 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: So I'm confident we'll find somebody that checks all those 508 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: boxes enough where there will be a lot of starters. Yeah, 509 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean I really can't answer that. Um, it's a 510 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: good it's a good draft. There's depth in the draft, 511 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, a getting there, there's depth throughout the draft. Um, 512 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: you know, late into the first, second, third. Um, you know, 513 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: I do think it's a good draft. And you know 514 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: that's my job, in our staff's job to identify those players, 515 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, fourth fifth as well, you know, and one 516 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned how Gil there's a reason why these jobs 517 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: are open. You know, you get the roster you get 518 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have the Pro Bowl players and 519 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: coaches and things like that. Is one of the things 520 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: that really it was good about this job is what 521 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: you have as far as capital in this draft. And yeah, 522 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: really you come in and say you've got five and seven, 523 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: go yeah, absolutely, absolutely having to top ten picks, I mean, 524 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: that's it's definitely a good way to set the foundation 525 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: and get two really good players, you know, early on. 526 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: And um, you know again it's that you're not sitting 527 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: a fifteen or twenty and you know, trying to figure 528 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: out who's gonna be there. So the fact that you 529 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: can you know, we can list seven players and know 530 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: that we're gonna get two of them, you know, it 531 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: makes a little bit easier. But um, yeah, that was 532 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: definitely an attractive part of the job. Yeah. The good 533 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: thing about three or six is you get all day 534 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Friday to hey, we're the fourth pick, you know, in 535 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: the in the second round. So same deal. You can 536 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: do another vertical stack. Hey, we know we're gonna get 537 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: one of these four. If there's ten, you like, well, shoot, 538 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: maybe somebody calls you can move back and get another 539 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: pick and you're gonna get one of those guys. So 540 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff we're going to play, is it concerning 541 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: to you that Darius Tony is not here, has not 542 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: reported yet. It's it's voluntary. I mean everybody, nobody's asked 543 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: about the other guys that aren't here. I mean, there's 544 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: everybody's it's life, life happens. And I've had good conversation 545 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: with Codarius and we've been in tact and at the 546 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's voluntary. But that's that's what 547 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: it is. M m m hmmmm hm