WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2019 Week 8 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Chris Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>Check it down Man Now Down Man, Monday morning, October

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, twenty nine. Team then Dating the Book podcast

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<v Speaker 1>if Gill Alexander getting lines week eate the interactive first

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<v Speaker 1>salvo towards handicapping future week lines of the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you enjoyed Trivitch of the Old Stardust Show with

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<v Speaker 1>Roxy Roxborrow back in the day and as always, the

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<v Speaker 1>man who puts it all together, man who keeps it together,

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<v Speaker 1>the sports book director at the South Toward Hotel Casino

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<v Speaker 1>sports Book. That's Chrissie Andrews. He in Los Angeles. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get him back in Las Vegas in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>If not next week, we take a crack at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Our search for value in a year when the halves

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<v Speaker 1>and the have nots but a chasm between them, it

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<v Speaker 1>just gets wider and wider. Guessing lines with Chris Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy right here on the beating of the book, podcast

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<v Speaker 1>It is Gil Alexander producing number five. Jeff Parlay is

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<v Speaker 1>here as well. I I believe that is the pronunciation

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<v Speaker 1>of his last name, Parlay was happening good morning, Gil yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say this about guessing lines, because for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are tuning in down this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, it's guessing lines this morning, right, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it is. For goodness sake, week eight in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football he will be asking guessing lines with Chris Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>That will bring it here momentarily. But let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say this off the top. Well, let's bring in Chrissy,

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<v Speaker 1>for goodness sake, from somewhere in l A. Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the sports book director at the South Point

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel casino right here, perhaps back in the fold here.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a couple of weeks, we'll get a read on that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Chris Andrew's my book. A good morning, Chrissy, Hey Jilly,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? How you doing? Are we within a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks? Maybe? Maybe? Wow? Maybe within a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, but I don't want to count anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a I had a test last Wednesday. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh listen. I don't know if anybody's interested, but the

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<v Speaker 1>bone marrow biopsy, which is painful as hell in anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the results it takes a while to get the results.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the results tomorrow. If everything everything is good,

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<v Speaker 1>they're releasing me and I hope to be back in Launch,

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas Tuesday night. Keeping my fingers crossed, keeping my fingers

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<v Speaker 1>were all not counting anything yet. Listen, don't ever say

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<v Speaker 1>we're not interested. We are interested. We want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but boat marrow biopsy just said the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>about that, you said it's painful, Well, it's not so

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<v Speaker 1>much painful. They shoot you up. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they give you a morphine before you get it, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's one plus, you know, and then they shoot you

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<v Speaker 1>up with a local so it doesn't hurt that bad

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<v Speaker 1>when you do it, but it just hurts for days

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<v Speaker 1>and days afterwards, including you know. Still, So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like five days and you know, my back is still

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tender, you know, from it'll take a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>But meanwhile, I was hoping that's the last one I

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<v Speaker 1>have to get, and they tell you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>get at least two more, three, you know, So well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess let that be the worst of it. Given Yeah, yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, at least I get morphine, So what

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<v Speaker 1>the health you know, So at least the worst thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Well, we hope to get you back

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<v Speaker 1>here with it a couple of days. How did you

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<v Speaker 1>do as a as the head bookmaker here at the

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<v Speaker 1>director of the South Point Hotel Casino sports book How

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<v Speaker 1>did you do this weekend? Uh? You know, they're both

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<v Speaker 1>good days. You know. Saturday, you know, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any like huge, huge winds, but we just grind it

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<v Speaker 1>out the really nice day. And yesterday, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had some big wins, we had some big losses, but

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<v Speaker 1>once the dust settled at the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>we wind up with a pretty good day. Again, not great,

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<v Speaker 1>not really great, but pretty good. Yea, So no open

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<v Speaker 1>plaints for the whole weekend. And I gotta tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the handle overall, I think the biggest Saturday and Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>combined since I've been right, you know, other been other

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<v Speaker 1>than like a Super Bowl or something like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>our business is growing. That has to make Mr Vaughan

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<v Speaker 1>very happy. Um. And uh, you know, we're we do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of little things. Like I said, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily get you on ESPN and that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but we take pride in taking care of our customers

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<v Speaker 1>and That's one of the things I think we do

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<v Speaker 1>really well. And I wonder if you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, oh, biggest handle of a weekend. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll be able to say that time and time

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<v Speaker 1>again this year. Maybe not everywhere, I'm guessing you might. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be growing. Like last night, I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking and we didn't quite get there. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>week before, maybe two weeks ago, I said we had

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest handle in a game since I've been here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought maybe the Philly Dallas game would get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't quite get there, but it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big handle on that game. And again, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that has to do around the three, because we

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<v Speaker 1>only we don't move to juice. We only moved the number.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep everything in eleven a ten, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it works against us, but you know, overall it

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<v Speaker 1>has worked for us because, like I said, guys, come

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<v Speaker 1>into the you come into the South Point. You might

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<v Speaker 1>not get the number you want, but you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven attend. You aren't going to get any these

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fancy numbers associated with the three years seven

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever some other guys did you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lay eleven at tenure, and I think our customers appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week has heard on Visa and Jeff Parls Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>and Philadelphia was the highest handled game of any non

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<v Speaker 1>postseason game ever at South winch Do we have anything

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<v Speaker 1>exceed that this past week with me? No, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Philly Dallas game came, did not exceed that. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>The overall handle for the two days was fantastic, all right. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say this. I don't often we listen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not in the h Hey look at us. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>look look what I did kind of thing here, But

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<v Speaker 1>guessing lines has been an institution here. We have paid

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to the Startus Show, Roxy's little Star Start Us Show.

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<v Speaker 1>So from so many years ago with the Guessing Line show,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I in podcast form for many years and

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<v Speaker 1>now of course on a numbers game which is also

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<v Speaker 1>in podcast form. Um, let me just say this, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that thefl is going, the haves and the have nots,

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<v Speaker 1>the chasm growing between them, and so my guess is right,

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<v Speaker 1>have been as a result of that sort of dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>further and further off than in previous years. And that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sort of makes sense. And let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say this, on guessing lines, our read of what the

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<v Speaker 1>market ought to be has been consistently better then what

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<v Speaker 1>comes out here on Mondays. So this weekend, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to use that and the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I the only thing that I missed on it

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<v Speaker 1>was a push with the Niners. Niners historically the Redskins

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<v Speaker 1>only the second team in the modern era to not

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<v Speaker 1>cover excuse me to cover rather while scoring zero points. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was a push in contest. But essentially, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been better on New Orleans week after week than what

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<v Speaker 1>the market has suggested. I've had New Orleans favored the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks. Uh, incredulous about the Dolphins catching all

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<v Speaker 1>those points against the Bills, by the way, even more

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<v Speaker 1>incredulous later in the week when it was Ryan Fitzpatrick

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<v Speaker 1>announced and it didn't move at all. So as much

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<v Speaker 1>as some of these guests appeared a guest is rather

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be laughable on Monday, the market tends to

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<v Speaker 1>come to us or the results bear it out in

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<v Speaker 1>the end. So we're kind of on fire with the

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<v Speaker 1>guesses here now. I'm sure there'll be some laughers today,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what makes this a fascinating exercise. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we love this, Chris. And as always, you post these

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<v Speaker 1>right after the show, right, yeah, yeah, right, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as we hang up, I call Lou and we get

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers up. Let me you know a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a friend of our show, but a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of Visa and Aaron Renning, a guy that I've known

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a lot, and I highly respect Aaron. And

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<v Speaker 1>he framed it about as well as I could think

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. And he said, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>think parallel with a bookmaker, you want to think perpendicular

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<v Speaker 1>to the bookmaker. We all think the same, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>point in this, right, And I laughed. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy I worked with many, many years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just to pick it right and reasons I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put up a line so good nobody's gonna beta think

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the function of what we're trying to do here. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>As a young kid, I'm thinking, I think that's right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>well said, well said by Aaron Rennett. That's right, because

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<v Speaker 1>if we if if you know, the point is not

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<v Speaker 1>to guess them accurately, then we have nothing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be no point in the exercise. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>to find a few, a couple, maybe maybe more than

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, or a few where there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a difference and therefore perhaps some value. That said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start Thursday night football week eate in the National Football League. Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you got? Oh you'll love this one. Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>Washington at Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, knowing knowing the red Skins,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this. What was going the Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>game for those who will will absolutely crush that storyline

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<v Speaker 1>all week long. Um. Look, last week, UM, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Thursday game was super duper value. That was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones that where I said this should be

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City more than three. It ended up being Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City just by three on a Thursday night, and we

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<v Speaker 1>pounded Kansas City. As a result of really the guessing

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<v Speaker 1>lines discussion here, I would say, obviously this is a

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<v Speaker 1>different dynamic entirely because Minnesota is gonna be hugely favored

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<v Speaker 1>there at home. By the way, the Redskins yesterday case

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<v Speaker 1>Keenum and the Redskins lose to the Niners nine to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have that tweet from Dug Kazarian Jeff This

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<v Speaker 1>is historic NFL gambling history. The Redskins became just the

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<v Speaker 1>second team in the past twenty five seasons to cover

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<v Speaker 1>a point spread without scoring. Only other occurrence two thousand seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami lost three to nothing to Pittsburgh as sixteen point dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Skins the only team to uh get us

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<v Speaker 1>out of the wind column with a push and circue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday case keenum nine of twelve on a FedEx field

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<v Speaker 1>that was listen, that's a field that they don't They

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<v Speaker 1>can't seem to get together even in the best of weather,

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<v Speaker 1>and they use the excuse mid Atlantic region. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>mid Atlantic whatever, blah blah blah. They can't get that field.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your job, get that field ready. They can't in

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<v Speaker 1>the rain. It was just a slop fest. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what Michael Lombardi ad me on Lombardi Line yesterday, Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I think this line doesn't continue to go up?

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<v Speaker 1>My only answer was it's got to be the weather

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<v Speaker 1>and sharp betters have got to have figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>the field is going to impact This keenom was nine

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<v Speaker 1>of twelve or seventies seven yards, zero touchdowns, zero picks,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty passing yards. If you factor in sacks. The Skins

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<v Speaker 1>mustard a grand total of a hundred and fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>total yards. That was their eight loss in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, at FedEx. This is at Minnesota. Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins yesterday. Uh, he's the greatest quarterback who's ever lived.

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<v Speaker 1>Chrissy obviously twenty four of thirty four three thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns note picks, and wasn't sacked. He connected with

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<v Speaker 1>Stefon Digs on a sixty six yard pass from deep

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<v Speaker 1>in their own territory with a little over two minutes left.

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<v Speaker 1>After matching a career high with the four touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>he leads the Vikings to a forty two to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>win over the Lions. Lad the Vikings on four straight

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown drive starting in the first quarter ending in the third.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the first quarterback in league history to throw for

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<v Speaker 1>at least three hundred yards with a one hundred thirty

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<v Speaker 1>plus passer rating in three straight games. That's Kirk Cousins, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Dalvin Cook. Twenty two two touchdowns, dig

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<v Speaker 1>seven catches for one two out gained the Lions five

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<v Speaker 1>oh three to four thirty three. Adam Feeling, though, is

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<v Speaker 1>a question mark here. He had a game ending hamstring

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<v Speaker 1>injury in the first quarter after he was hurt while

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<v Speaker 1>scoring his seventh touchdown of the year. Zimmer Mike Zimmer

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<v Speaker 1>did not have an update on his condition after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that fourteen would be too short. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say fourteen and a half here in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the vikings. You're a little light at sixteen, and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how these thirds and night games go, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling where we're going to touch seventeen at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in the week. And again, I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you the winner. Uh. You know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was Zimmer, I would definitely put feeling on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a really important player to them, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>would hope they're not. They don't need him in a

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<v Speaker 1>game like this because they certainly have plenty of other weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna open sixteen and a half, I said, a

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<v Speaker 1>little pick above the market. I see all, I see

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much all sixteen. I'm gonna open sixteen and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I feeling we're gonna hit seventeen. A lot of public

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<v Speaker 1>money on these Thursday games, although the wide you guys

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<v Speaker 1>definitely come in and play like you talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City game last week. Why do you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>all over Denver in that game, all over I mean, uh,

0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.439
<v Speaker 1>overpowered him pretty much, you know, but they were so

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<v Speaker 1>the Wise guys certainly aren't shy about taking some big numbers, um,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what data we shoul it is. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling they might come in on Washington. But

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota say, that was a bad game for US uh

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<v Speaker 1>public and really wise that money on Minnesota pushed it up.

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<v Speaker 1>We might have going a three at one point. We

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<v Speaker 1>finally got a little bit of money back at three,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Wise guys were all over Minnesota. And really

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<v Speaker 1>this team is playing really really well right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's gotten into Kirk Cousins because I still

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<v Speaker 1>look at him and I'm not sure how good he is,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's certainly playing really really well right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it you have to look at coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I think got told with him a lot defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of defense. Didn't stop Detroit much yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is pretty good, and he's got some good weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, He's got Dalvin Cook is that digs uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know? And even though a feeling I think he

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<v Speaker 1>only cut one passes even though it was a great

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<v Speaker 1>Catchler touched them. But you know, besides him, they still

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<v Speaker 1>have other weapons. So there's a lot of things around

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins that are really helping him. And listen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the quarterback has to be like a point guard

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just distribute cabal right now, he's doing that

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<v Speaker 1>really well. So anyway, I'm gonna open that sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Um. I have a feeling we'll touch seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>at one point. But anyway, that's what I think. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that Washington game for us was really

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<v Speaker 1>really good yesterday. He started off that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>line or to go in and started us off on

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good day. Yeah. And San Francisco just basically

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of time there at the end, uh more

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<v Speaker 1>more or less, and had to kick a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't even just played for a field goal. They

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<v Speaker 1>certainly want to throw the ball around the yard when

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins had no time outs left. Alright, how many

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<v Speaker 1>early Sunday games? How many late Sunday games do we

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<v Speaker 1>have this week? I simply got let me see one.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get down that my computers. Most sloger one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, early three late,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the primetime games two teams on a by

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas and Dallas and Baltimore and Buys. All right, we'll

0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.360
<v Speaker 1>get to both of those teams. For those unfamiliar. We

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<v Speaker 1>we go through these and well rehash yesterday's games. With

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<v Speaker 1>lots to say about certain games. Let's do one from

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<v Speaker 1>the morning on on Sunday, this coming Sunday. Uh, Giants

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<v Speaker 1>at Detroit Giants at Detroit Giants yesterday lose to the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>That game got to three and a half late in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the Giants pre flop Yesterday. Se Kwan came

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<v Speaker 1>back eighteen carries seventy two yards a touchdown, Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 1>two of thirty five to twenty three, one touchdown a pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He was act eight times, Chris eight times by the Cardinals. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Giants were minus three in turnovers. It's their third

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<v Speaker 1>straight loss. Pat Shermer winless and five challenges this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that little note in the game. Uh, not

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<v Speaker 1>a not doing well on challenges either. So they lose

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<v Speaker 1>their two and five. Now Detroit, as we just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>lose to the Vikings. But Matthew Stafford thirty of forty

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<v Speaker 1>five three sixty four, four touchdowns, one pick. He was

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<v Speaker 1>sacked two times. By the way, he's the fastest quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to reach forty thousand yards passing in NFL history. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that Danny Amondola eight for one oh five catches,

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<v Speaker 1>eight for one oh five, Marvin Jones Jr. Ten catches

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<v Speaker 1>for ninety three yards and four count them four touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>for Marvin Jones and the Lions. They lose their third

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<v Speaker 1>straight game after a two oh and one start, They're

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<v Speaker 1>now two three and one. As everybody in Detroit can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just another year for the Lions, who are in

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<v Speaker 1>the cellar there in the NFC North. All that said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at Detroit. I'll say Detroit minus six, a little

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<v Speaker 1>white Detroit seven, and uh I see seven A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of spots with some juice on the dog. I think

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<v Speaker 1>seven probably the high water mark, but I think seven's

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<v Speaker 1>okay here. You know, I really Detroit's lost a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of heartbreakers, and as well as Minnesota played yesterday, Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>hung in there with them. I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know the defense didn't do much stount in Minnesota, but

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<v Speaker 1>their offense I thought really looked pretty good. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>that's on Stafford, and you're talking about him being the

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<v Speaker 1>first of forty thousand yards. A lot of that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the fact that he's probably been behind

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<v Speaker 1>most of his career, and he had the throw, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't bad yesterday, and they had some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>decent results on offense, and just the Giants looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they're heading in the wrong direction right now, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the Why guys pounded them pretty good yesterday. There was

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<v Speaker 1>another very good result for us. So I am an

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<v Speaker 1>open seven. Uh. Like I said, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>high water mark. I could see where the sharp players

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<v Speaker 1>will come in and take the Giants. But boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure we want to take a bet at seven with

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<v Speaker 1>these two teams. I don't have a problem with seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably did go right there. Let's do one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Tampa Bay at Tennessee. Geez uh, Tampa bet Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me just guess this one first before

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<v Speaker 1>we even talk about it. This has to be three,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine in favor of Tennessee. Uh Tannehill yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say this about before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the the ending sequence of that Tennessee Jiff already rolling

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes at this when we get to the closing

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<v Speaker 1>sequence of that Tennessee Chargers gave yesterday the Titans Charges game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say, is Ryan Tannehill uhe twenty nine three,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve three and twelve yards of the year, two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>one pick. Now here's the thing about him. He if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch that game, he completed a lot of passes

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<v Speaker 1>in tight quarters. I was very impressed by him as

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<v Speaker 1>an improvement. On Look, he's not gonna set the world

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<v Speaker 1>on fire, Ryan Tannehill, for goodness sake, it's still him,

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but he was so much better to me than Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Mariotta was. And Marcus Mariota, who's who's primary skill is

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<v Speaker 1>not turning the ball over. But really, Tannehill was so

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<v Speaker 1>much more effective for them, I thought. So the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this game yesterday between the Titans and the Charges.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Tampa Bay obviously coming off a bye

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<v Speaker 1>when last we saw them, they were in London getting

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<v Speaker 1>beat by the Carolina Panthers, so they have extra rest here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll say Tennessee minus three the the the closing

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<v Speaker 1>sequence of that game yesterday, which was just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>very controversial and one of these things. Where here it

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<v Speaker 1>here it is, by the way, here's Will Brinson's tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Charges got to the one yard line and one got

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<v Speaker 1>ten free seconds from Mike frabel to committed a false start.

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<v Speaker 1>Three drew defensive p I, four got a touchdown, five

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<v Speaker 1>had it reversed, six ran the ball again, seven fumbled,

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<v Speaker 1>eight lost. It's a great it's a great tweet for

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<v Speaker 1>Will Brinson. But essentially, if you missed it yesterday, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>Jurrell Casey recovered a fumble by Melvin Gordon at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line with fifteen seconds left, Tennessee pulled out a

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<v Speaker 1>victories Sunday over the Chargers after a frantic final minute.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers thought they had scored the go ahead touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>not once but twice UH in the final forty four seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>only to lose both on review by the replay official. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>That official also overturned Gordon being stopped on the Charges

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 1>final play. Philip rivers first. The first one was the

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<v Speaker 1>past to Austin Ekeler, took sixteen yards was ruled a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>only only to be reversed by the replay official for

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<v Speaker 1>not breaking the plane as he was tackled by Tenny mccaro,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny mccarlo, and Logan Ryan at the one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>after a false start, Malcolm Butler then was flagged for

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<v Speaker 1>defensive pass interference on Mike Williams in the end zone

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that gave the charges again the ball at the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon went over right tackle with thirty four seconds left

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<v Speaker 1>for what officials ruled the one yard touchdown, and the

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>replay officials then reversed the call for the second time

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<v Speaker 1>in what became a run for no game that set

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<v Speaker 1>up Gordon's final run with nineteen seconds left. Shenanigans, Chrissy, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this was one of This was one of these games

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<v Speaker 1>where if you had Tennessee, which I did. By the way, please,

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever complain about anything else ever again, remind

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<v Speaker 1>me of this game right, because I think the officials

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<v Speaker 1>got it right. But the notion that all of that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going my way is just an unbelievable upset.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a Chargers fan or a Charger's backer.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, if your charges back or you're probably like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get it right multiple times, you probably thought

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that I would disagree with you. But if you're a

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Chargers fan or if you're just an observer of the Chargers.

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 1>This was the most Chargers thing ever and I have

0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>said on this show, and I brought it up via

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Twitter yesterday. We have said on a numbers game on

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<v Speaker 1>numerous occasions, too many to count. Philip Rivers never sneaks

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.439
<v Speaker 1>the football. Find me footage of any time in his

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<v Speaker 1>career where Philip Rivers sneaks. It's almost as if it's

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<v Speaker 1>in his contract. And yesterday to me proved that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not sneaking there, you're never sneaking. And uh,

0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee gets the win. The Chargers folded two and five,

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Tennessees three and four. As far as this game, Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>minus three over Tampa Bay, I think that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be the line. I like your number better. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half. And I even see them two's

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<v Speaker 1>um on this show. I'm gonna say that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>open it too and a half. But I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I might wind up opening against three just

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<v Speaker 1>to take a bed because I think there's hals to

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<v Speaker 1>go to three. Uh. Tannehill was not bad yesterday. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>my notes? The on one thing? I was impressed me

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>guy in ten point eight yards per attempt, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the thing first things I look at. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys looked at that. Uh, that impressed me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that he's that he learned. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because we he's had. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>some rookie that all of a sudden we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. He's been around for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But he played really well yesterday. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee has all that many tools to make him that

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<v Speaker 1>much better than he has been. But I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>really played well. I know he's been anti Mariota for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and I really probably should I should

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have listened to you, because I think you're definitely right.

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So it looks like a big improvement to me over Mariota.

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<v Speaker 1>And why they're not a full three over Tampa Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really don't know. So on this show

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm going to say two and a half,

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:03.959
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to think about this one. I might

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<v Speaker 1>open three and take a bet because I think we

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 1>will get the three. Uh the boy that I guess

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to the Chargers. They're actually the next game up.

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>The boy, they do a lot of Chargery things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure our friend e down and what I think,

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<v Speaker 1>still a Charger fan, uh, just because he loves the punishment.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure I have a lot to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right about the sneak and uh. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure the Revs got it right. I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>that first one was a touchdown for sure. And how

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<v Speaker 1>they could overrule that second one, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>a massive body, you know, not right or wrong, But

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<v Speaker 1>how can they overrule the call in the field. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know. Well, we'll talk, we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed the Chargers too, so I'm sure in my opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>to a numbers game with Jill Alexander. Let's bring in

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<v Speaker 1>producing number five Jeff Parls here for a second. The

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<v Speaker 1>end of that Tennessee l A Chargers game yesterday. What

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the officials got right? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they got wrong? First off, precursor to this,

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<v Speaker 1>I had Chargers in game plus three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So that whole sequence, yeah, uh here's what I actually

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<v Speaker 1>agree with, what what Chris said. I thought the first touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>the Echoler touchdown that was overturned, I didn't think they

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<v Speaker 1>had a good enough angle to overturn that. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that should have stood on the field as a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>The the first Gordon touchdown to be overturned to the

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<v Speaker 1>second touchdown to be overturned, I thought he was down.

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought they got that one correctly. The third one,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost the football and almost it was clearly a fumble.

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell Casey clearly ended up with the ball, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think they ended up getting that one current. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first one. I didn't like the overturned second

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 1>one they got right. Third of the balls loose, clear fumble.

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<v Speaker 1>How about we're missing the sequence before that when the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans had the ball and on a third down play

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<v Speaker 1>they marked it probably way closer to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>down marker then it should have been. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down he may have gotten it, but they marked

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<v Speaker 1>it short, and then Rabel didn't challenge it. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what I very didn't challenge that because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he I thought he got it on the fourth down,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are right, that was it. Was fourth and inches.

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<v Speaker 1>With the way they marked it, it should have been

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<v Speaker 1>fourth in a holy yard and would even a yard

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<v Speaker 1>and a few and a few inches. I wish I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish there was a way to capture the audio.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a sports book yesterday. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of the game because obviously the two other

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>games that were going off the time, we're much more

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<v Speaker 1>marquis and much more bet upon, the Baltimore Seattle game

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the New Orleans Chicago game. So we

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>were left those of us betting on this game in

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<v Speaker 1>this frantic we don't know what the heck is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>debate with each other at every turn. And I wish,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I wish we could capture that audio and run that

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<v Speaker 1>back today. But it was very apparent on the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>on the last play with the fumble that Tennessee was

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>going to win that game, because we were like, wait, no, no,

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that's and then we were worried, you know, I was worried,

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, does he get the do they get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball at the one yard line? And then is

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<v Speaker 1>are the Titans gonna take a safety? And there was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no no, it's a touchback because he got

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<v Speaker 1>it in the end zone. So there was all minds

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<v Speaker 1>of things that could have gone wrong, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the as far as the spread. But interesting that you

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<v Speaker 1>thought you both and Chrissie believe that the first one

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<v Speaker 1>I should not have been overturned. We didn't see the ball,

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>but it did look like when his butt was down

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>there couldn't have been any part of his body at

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line. I don't know. Maybe it's my money talking,

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's your money telling you. Who knows. It's an

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting debate, for sure. We'll talk about it for weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the next game. Chrissie, We'll bring you,

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll bring you back in here. You said the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>is the next game, Chargers in San Diego. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you've got this message too from our friend to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't check them. I didn't check the phone yet. Yeah,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you got to check your message. Okay. I can only imagine, uh, yeah,

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>you can probably imagine it. Anyway. We got the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>at Chicago, Oh, speak of the devil charge. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all rivers yesterday for the Chargers twenty four or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three, twenty nine, two touchdowns, no picks, but again

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't sneak all the Nickeler, who should be the

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>entire Chargers offense should revolve around him, and the entrance

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.479
<v Speaker 1>of Melvin Gordon has screwed up everything. Seven catches, one

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>eighteen touchdown charges of the lost three straight five of

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>their past six. Uh. Their their offensive line was already

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<v Speaker 1>banged up with Mike Pouncey out Russell Okun trying to

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>work his way back. He has blood clots. But then

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>uh Forest lamp their left guard her Nankel midway through

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter. He was carted off the field as well.

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So they are banged up on the offensive line. Chicago yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>And if if the ghost of Michael Lombardi was here

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<v Speaker 1>right now, we'll have him on the show tomorrow. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was Michael Lombardi's Citizen Kane for Mitchell Trabiski yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four of fifty four for two fifty one. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the box score, that's what you see.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, thirty four or fifty one to fifty one,

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<v Speaker 1>And forget thirty fifty four, forget the fact that he

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>threw the ball fifty four times right coming off the intry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another matter for Matt Nagy to talk about two touchdowns,

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>no picks. But of those two hundred and fifty one

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>yards passing, got this one, Jeff listening to this, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty eight of the two fifty one. We're

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>in the last four minutes and twenty five seconds of

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the game. So really he did nothing. He said his

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>shoulder was fine. Allen Robinson was his favorite target, ten

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of eighty seven for a touchdown, but they were two

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of twelve on third down against New Orleans. They set

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a franchise record, the Bears did, and I'll put record

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>in quotes of seven carries. Seven carries, that's a franchise low.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen yards rushing by far, their few as this season. Uh,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And really all the fans had to cheer for was

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that Cordurell Patterson one hundred two yard kickoff return. The

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>Bears gave up a season high four hundred twenty four

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>yards and their loss to the Saints. While being held

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to two fifty two, they managed just four first downs

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>through the first three quarters. Wow. So you got the

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Chargers coming off that loss, you got the Bears coming

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>off that rabiscite game. And I'll just put it in

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<v Speaker 1>no man's land between three and seven and say Bears

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<v Speaker 1>minus five and a half, Well, you're dead on it's

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half. I see a couple of fives.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna open this five because this is the kind

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of game where the charges will cover. Well I win.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but it's a kind of game.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. We say in the NFL, you always want

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to buy low, sell high. We're buying low on both

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>these teams right now. I think I mentioned I mentioned

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>yards per temp. Really one of the first things I

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>looked at Mr Busy four point six yards per tempt.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>That was a low water mark. I'm pretty sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to look at my notes here. I'm pretty sure

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that was the worst yards per tempt from any quarterback

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL yesterday. And he really was pitiful. And

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>they ran the bolt seven times for seventeen yards, so

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not getting much help either. Uh, their defense is

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but this is one of those games. Go

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a really good game for us. Yesterday, all

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the money was on the Bears, and I remember, just

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>tell them, my god, I do not understand. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean we might win or lose, God knows. I

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>mean we lose plenty of games, Lord does. But I

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>just did not see the attraction with the Barons. I

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just didn't see it. And you know, you could say, well,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Petty Bridgewater is kind of fake and not really playing

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>as well as his record indicates. You know, I get

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>all that. But you know, and they did have a

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of injuries on New Orleans. But still you're land

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that many points. I mean, we closed this few five yesterday.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just couldn't understand it. A matter of fact,

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my sheep from last week. I like

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans plus the three and a half is you

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>know what it opens? You know on the point of five. Well,

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, look, we get I listen, I'm the

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>first person who admit it, get a lot wrong in

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, but we've sort of hit our

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>stride in New Orleans. Is the best example of that

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>both weeks now, both because Jacksonville last week gets the Bears. Yesterday,

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I had New Orleans favorite in both of those games.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>On guessing lines, New Orleans appears to be based on

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>what we've seen with Philadelphia. Based on what I mean, obviously,

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>people in Dallas and Minnesota and Green Bay and other

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>places are gonna have something to say about it. San

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Francisco is undefeated, but man, it's hard to make a

0:30:58.120 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>case that New Orleans isn't at the top of their

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>game right now with a backup quarterback. Right, I mean there,

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:06.239
<v Speaker 1>they look fabulous on defense, they win different ways to right,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they blocked a punt. I mean they're they're a well

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>rounded team, but you know, well coached, and they've got

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good players, and they had some holes

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>in the lineup yesterday with players missing, but you'd never

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>know it, certainly by looking at the at the final score.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>They're world coach. They've done a good job drafting and

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>picking up free agents, etcetera, etcetera. That's a good, good team.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And anyway, we're going back to Chicago and the Chargers.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I think five is what I'm gonna open. Like I said,

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I I kind of lean towards the Chargers in this game,

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>as heartbreaking is that was yesterday and they did some

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>good things, and you know, I mean, is it how

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>long are we going to have faith in Trabisky? I

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>think the Chicago people are getting extremely frustrated fans I'm

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about I'm not sure when management is going to

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 1>start pulling the plug, but he does not look like

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the answer, and they traded up and after him number

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>two overall. I mean, even at that time, I was

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>not sure why that was. He just had a very

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>brief career in North Carolina and I didn't think it

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>was all that great. But somehow the Scalps, you know,

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>fell in love with them. And you know that that

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>seems to happen every year with a lot of quarterbacks,

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's how we get a lot of bus out

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of the potion round quarterbacks. And that's not that's not

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 1>armchair quarterback. And we said it that day, like, how

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>are you DeShawn Watson, who he saw win a national championship?

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Right Like it just made no sense anyway. Uh so

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you're opening five on that. I'm gonna open five, you know,

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And I gotta tell you a kind of lean towards

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers in this one. I do think I do

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>think that was the game yesterday that might have been

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the tipping point for a lot of Trabinsky apologists to

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of doing about face yesterday. I have a feeling

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>three excuse me, four first downs in the first three

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>quarters against a good defense, for sure, But yeah, no,

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>seven carry seventeen yards again of a Troubinskys too hundred

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh fifty fifty one yards passing. One hundred and

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight of them were the last four minutes and

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>seconds of that game, so he had one thirteen yards

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>passing for almost that entire football game. To the flurry

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at the end, Let's do one more here before the break, Chris, Okay, Well,

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be not much to stalk about here Seattle

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and at Atlanta, and we don't know about Matt Ryan.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And uh uh, you know, I see one number up.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure it's an active number, but I

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>see one number right now, and it's gonna be hard

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to make that out. Matt Ryan. Matt Shaubs, the back up,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a nice veteran, played really well yesterday. That pretty big

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>difference between Shaub and Ryan, and I don't think you'll

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>see any numbers on this game until we get a

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit better of an update on Matt ran All right.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Ryan's right leg, for those who missed it, bent awkwardly

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>when he was sacked by Errol Aaron Donald fourth quarter

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of that game yesterday. He fumbled, Donald recovered, Ryan limped

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>off the field. He was escorted to the medical tent

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he was walked to the locker room, still

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>favoring the ankle. That was with seven thirty six remaining

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in the game. Dan Quinn. Head coach Dan Quinn said

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he did not know the severity of Ryan's injury. Ryan

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>wore a walking boot in the locker room. That was

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta's loss yesterday. Um was a final and at

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven to ten with a cosmetic touchdown there they

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>have thirty seven to ten Falcons one in six or

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 1>fifth straight loss. So, if it's Ryan or it's Shaw,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Shaw was six for six, I think in relief. If

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it was Ryan, I would say Seattle minus four on

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the road. If it's Shab it's probably closer to a touchdown.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But as you say that, we don't have anything. Yeah,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>just too big of a disparity right now. Nobody wants

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>to put that out there, including me. I don't want

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to put it out there until I find out a

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. It's like it's a Shaw mice packed up.

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But come on, I mean, you know, as much as

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's had their problems this year, it's not really starting

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>with Matt Ryan. I mean, he's still a pretty good quarterback.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of other problems on this team,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>but Matt Ryan is not the main cult group you

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>brought up our the moments ago, and I will check

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the phone in a moment see what he has to say.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know one of his big pet peeves over

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the years. He's a guy at Southern California, so he's

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>watched Pete Carroll intimately at USC and beyond. He is

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>not a fan understatement, not a fan of Pete Carroll.

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Seattle loses to Baltimore yesterday. Uh they do so by

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the score of thirty to sixteen UM in a game

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that was really marked by two defensive touchdowns for the Ravens.

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>That was the difference, a rare Russell Wilson mistake of

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>pick six that Marcus Peters in his first game for

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens, takes back to the house. And then there

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was a dk Metcalf fumble that was returned for a

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>touchdown with three forty seven left in the fourth quarter

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that made it a seventeen point game and really closed

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the door on the Seahawks. But think about Pete Carroll.

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll UM. Basically this is FeliCa said this yesterday

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a textic goes Beete. Carroll couldn't stop the

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty five Sooner's offense yesterday, right like that was just

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's supposed to be a defensive genius. There

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>was no spy, there was no rushed discipline. And think

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>about the different things that happened in that game too.

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 1>He kicks a fifty three yard field goal and pouring

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>rain on fourth and three at the Baltimore thirty five

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and thirteen thirteen tie with six fifty one left in

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the third quarter. Bad decision. He challenged a p I

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and lost. Of course, was out of timeouts midway through

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, um on and on and on and

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know, we we talked about handicapping coaches. Pat

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Carroll is like not on my good list at all,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think he's on a lot of people's good lists.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think that he's one of these coaches that

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>people are very have very different opinions on. Well, you know,

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you talked about those five for for Seattle and Jackson

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>at fourteen carries for a hundred and sixteen yards. Man,

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>he's on at some point you have to make an adjustment,

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 1>don't you. And by the way, that's not that big

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>of anabiration. The guy is, you know, arguably the best

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>running quarterback in the NFL. I mean, we can make

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>that kids. But I mean, come on, here's what you

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Davian Clowney said after the game quote, I always wanted

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to play against Michael Vick. I guess I'm getting the

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>new era with Lamar Jackson right there. And Jeff, what

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>did you say before the off air? What did you

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>say he's a better runner than Vick was? Oh my,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>he's a better runner. And that's and and I'm not

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>remember I remember my pearls. How good? There were multiple

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>plays yesterday that we're should have been losses of seven,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>losses of eight that he turned in the fifteen twenty

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>five yards. He was incredible running the ball yesterday. Yeah

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>he was. I mean, but man, Michael Vick generational. But yeah,

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I mean, it was phenomenal. But but you

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>so no line basically what you're saying here seatland Atlanta

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because of the line, Like I said, I see one

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>line at three and a. But I'm not sure that's

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>an active line. You know, sometimes by screen doesn't put

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>updates when they just scratch a me I'm not sure

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's an active line or not. All right, we'll come back,

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but you know, is he better than Michael Vickors. That's

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that's easy easy anybody Like I said, he's arguably the

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>best running quarterback in the NFL. Right now, were making

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>adjustment for forget making an adjustment. You should have known

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>before the game that was going to be part of it.

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that was curious. We'll come back. We'll continue

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.160
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0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.359
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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't Fable challenge Spot? I said no clue whatsoever.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's as if the refs told him he had no

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>chance at a reversal. Again, I'm just speculating, like I

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. Why why ate the what the flag?

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And then our buddy E would uh Chrissie was referring

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to Uh. He said, Uh, I'm no longer a Chargers fan.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>They deserve all of this bad carbon more and they

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.399
<v Speaker 1>employ a coach who couldn't coach a high school diadlywigs team.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So he feels he feels strongly about Anthony lynn Um.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And he also points out that everyone in San Diego

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 1>hate roots against them and Spanos. He says he respects Rivers,

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to see him get hurt, and he was.

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>In fact he was. He was the first one I

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>ever to talk about the Rivers. No sneak thing. Find

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>me footage of Philip Rivers game. It doesn't exist. Chrissie,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 1>let's do one more. Okay, Jets, we're playing tonight at Jacksonville. Okay,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so Jets unseen here sight unseen they are. By the way,

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I got the Jets tonight catching the nine. I'll take

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the Jets tonight. I think I think they cover that. Um.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, always you gotta always take a big gulp

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>when you're facing the Patriots. But I will take the

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Jets tonight. So Jacksonville. They win yesterday in a tight

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>game yesterday for most of the afternoon, but then they

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>pulled away from Cincinnati late. They went at seventeen and

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>cover three interceptions by the Jags in the fourth quarter

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>defensive touchdown. The Jags managed only field goals by uh

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the still perfect Josh Lambo through three quarters. They piled

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>up three nine yards in the first half but had

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to settle for just two field goals, So that game

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>probably should have been a lot wider of a margin

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>than it was. Leonard Fournett thirty one d d Westbrook,

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>six catches, one oh three. They outgained Cincinnati four out

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>rushed Cincinnati the two sixteen thirty three. By the way,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>all of those yards from Andy Dalton will get to them.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Eleven penalties for one thirty three. They did, uh, make

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of mistakes there with flags. So I'll say

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville minus three and a half as a placeholder, you're

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a little like four and a half. And I'm not

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>sure you know. Um. First of all, we'll see tonight again. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>we'll see tonight. But a lot of money did show

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>on jackson Bill yesterday, uh and throughout the week, and

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, sharp money and public money,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And Mitchew was okay. It wasn't great, he

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was okay. His QBR thirty three point six, which I

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>was surprised it was that low. Uh. He had one touchdown,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>no interceptions, eight yards per attempt, So it's really kind

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>of surprised that the QBR was out there. I don't know,

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>QBR is one of those. I like looking at it because,

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it gives you a different glimpse at

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.959
<v Speaker 1>some statistics, but I'm not sure what all goes into

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that formula. Anyway, I really thought four that was a

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>key to that game. He had a hundred thirty one

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>yards himself rushing. The rushed to to sixteen total. Or

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati had thirty three yards on the ground, holy count,

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and they ran twenty times. The rest of them had

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.359
<v Speaker 1>zero yards. Yeah, yeah, so I mean that I really

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>thought that was really the key to the game. And

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you're You're right, it probably should have been by a

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>wider margin, you know. I mean, everybody knocks dolt. It

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>probably deserves quite a big But I think if he

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>had a better team, you'd probably see a better result

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on it him. But anyway, I yeah, I'm probably gonna

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>open four and a half here as a placeholder, just

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>because I want to see the Jets. Student. I have

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the Jets myself in a couple of contests. Um, I

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>expect them to play well, can I, and if they do,

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>that number will come down. But you know, why do

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>guys love Jacksonville. They've been in love with them for

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like the last two decades. It seems like, you know

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>something open four and a half again as a placeholder.

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But if the Jets play well to night, and I

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of think they will, I think this number probably

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>come down. Remember we talked about how well guessing lines

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<v Speaker 1>we've had New Orleans better than the market did the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks. I had him favored the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about how that Miami line was ridiculous last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I my guest on Jacksonville last week was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>difference between my guests and what the market was at

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville minus five and a half. It ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>like minus three and a half or whatever was Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>gets it done. So we'll see how the Jets do

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and then that line will of course be more

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<v Speaker 1>So let's clean up some things. One on Twitter, I

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<v Speaker 1>have said out loud many times, find me a Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers snake. Warren Sharp has done just that, So thank

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you to Shy City Brian for pointing this out. Warren

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Sharp says says that he's seen one video one of

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a Philip Rivers snake. Yes, Parlay you you remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what Warren had to say. Since Rivers only

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>has seven rushes and short yard of situations, Warren saying,

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I went back to and watched all seven. Only one

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<v Speaker 1>of them was an actual quarterback sneak and he converted

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it for a first down technically a conversion rate on steakes,

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but it was his only conversion one, so he did

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<v Speaker 1>find one. So I stand corrected. How dare you? But yeah,

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the But the point is, the point remains. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's in his contract. It's as if it's in

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<v Speaker 1>his contracty no, no snakes. They didn't consider yesterday with you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Chrissy, Let's let's resume a week eight. Let's

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>uh do the rest of the early games. What's next?

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia ad Buffalo? All right? Um, this is not an

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.879
<v Speaker 1>easy line to guess, by the way, Uh, Philadelphia got

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>housed last night, and you know, look, I that was

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>one of those where it I didn't end up playing it,

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>but that was one of those on guessing lines might

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.439
<v Speaker 1>have been the exception. That one was the one where

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, I don't think Dallas deserves to

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>be a three point favorite here. So let me just

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 1>raise my hand this one. My first instinct was wrong.

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia got destroyed last night thirty seven to ten. Dallas

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>had their tackles back. Uh, they had a Marii Cooper back.

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they were kind of that the old full strength,

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>to use the hockey term, and uh, it was just destruction.

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Carson went sixteen twenty six for one touchdown, one pick.

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>He threw a pick and had two of Philadelphia's tow

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of Philadelphias three lost fumbles, also from Carson Wentz. They

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>dropped their second straight game after two game winning streak.

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Was just the second time in thirty three winning flips

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>coin flips that is that Doug Peterson hadn't deferred in

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>order to start the second half on offense, and it

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>backfired immediately when the Eagles fumbled on their first two possessions,

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>led to a pair of touchdowns from the Cowboys. It

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was fourteen to nothing. The Cowboys started with the ball

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Eagles side of the field twice in a row,

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 1>fourteen and nothing before you could blink um. By the way,

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>before that, Dallas was the only team in the NFL

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>that hadn't started any drive on the the opposite side

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of the field. But the Eagles allowed Zeke twenty two

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of one eleven and a touchdown one eleven and a touchdown.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Dallas finished with a hundred eighty nine yards of rushing,

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a hundred sixteen more than the average that Philly had

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>given up before Amari Cooper five catches one oh six um.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Dallas was eight of fourteen on third down four hundred

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 1>two yards of offense. The Eagles were minus three in turnovers.

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>They allowed Dallas uh to snap their three game losing streak. Anyway,

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Philli help. He was terrible and a couple and last

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>week I was talking about, like, who are the great

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in the NFL? And I threw Carson Wentz into

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that group. I'm not so sure I need. I think

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I have to remove him like as quickly as I

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>put as I put him in there, because I'm not

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>sure this is the pre injury WinCE we're seeing at all.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And then there's Buffalo, who not only was that incredulous

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>about the line against the Dolphins, you know a week

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>ago because I had at fourteen and I think or

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>fourteen a half and it end up being seventeen, but

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>when it when they switched from Josh Rosen to Ryan

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick midweek and it didn't move. This was the dumbest

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>line of the week on the Bills. They end up

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>winning by ten. By the way, the Dolphins did everything

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in their power to try to get the worst push

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 1>ever on that with a late fumble, but Buffalo, uh,

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they get it done. Jordan Phillips big play when he

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>tackled Ryan Fitzpatrick for a ten yard loss on first

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and goal from the Buffalo to Miami first and goal

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>from the Buffalo two, and that was one play later

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Davis White made a pick at the two to spark

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>a second half comeback. The Bills rallied from a five

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>point deficit to the Dolphins yesterday for a thirty one

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>win their five and one it's their best starting eleven

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>years um. But they didn't see it until Michael Hyde

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>with one thirty eight remaining in the game. I returned

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>an onside kick for a touchdown one play after Fitzpatrick

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:42.479
<v Speaker 1>get scored. Josh Allen did have one nice drive twelve played,

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight yard drive that followed White's interception. So this

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>is a strange line to make Philly at Buffalo because

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Philly was terrible, Buffalo was, you know, okay,

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and victory against the Dolphins. Some might even say not

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>good at all. So is it three? I'll say Buffalo

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>minus two and a half. It's one and a half.

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>And I like that number better than yours. And I

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>got to tell you right now. I mean we talk

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, not all the time, but often

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>on this show. The NFL is all about buying low

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>and selling high. It's not like you're selling Buffalo high,

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>but you are buying Philly low right now. And they

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>looked they looked awful yesterday. I mean, let's be honest,

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>they looked awful on National TV. That is always gonna

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>just sway the public opinion right there. I'm gonna open

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>one and a half. But I really kind of like

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Philly in this spot. Um, you know, whence I'm kind

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of with you, Gil, I probably would have had him

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>among the best quarterbacks in the league. But I'm not

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>sure where to put him now. I mean, he was

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>responsible for three turnovers yesterday, two fumbles and an interception,

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, is that an admiration or not.

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not sure, to be quite honest with you,

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 1>but I do think the rest of the team is

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, and I think I'm sketch right. I do

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.879
<v Speaker 1>think they're still a legitimate challenger. And now it's gonna

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>be very hard to get a record right now to

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs, but I do think they're a challenger

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.959
<v Speaker 1>to to the best teams in the NFC. I'm gonna

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>open one and after I gotta tell you right now,

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of leaning towards Philly in this game, and

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I think they're just not as bad as they looked

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>last night. It would not surprise me one iota if

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia won't this game, handling right like it's just the NFL.

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>This is a matchup could go. It wouldn't surprise me

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 1>if Buffalo did the same, right. This is one of

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 1>these This might be the answer to the question which

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 1>game do I want no part of next week? This

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>might be that game. Next Well, we've got a few

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 1>more coming up, so ye, don't hold me to that yet. Okay,

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati at the Ranch. That's a London game, correct, Oh,

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>yes it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, I'm sorry.

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati at the Rams. Cincinnati winless o and six. We

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. They uh they lost yesterday once again.

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:04.879
<v Speaker 1>They did to Jacksonville, kept with him for a while,

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>probably should have been down further, but they hung tied

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they got crushed at the end. Uh Andy

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Dalton two of forty three to seventy six, one touchdown,

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 1>three picks. He had four carries for thirty three yards

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in a touchdown. The reason I point that out is

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>because the rest of the Bengals had sixteen carries for

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>zero yards. Sixteen carries for zero yards. Alex Rickson, by

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 1>the way, was his favorite target, eight for one thirty seven.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>They were out gained by Jacksonville four six ninety one.

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>They were out rushed by Jacksonville two sixteen three to

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty three minus four in turnovers. They only had the

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 1>ball for twenty one minutes and forty two seconds. They

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>fall to o and seven for the first time in

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>eleven years. Sooner they're owing six or seven or own six.

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:46.359
<v Speaker 1>One are the one are the Bengals. They won seven

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.720
<v Speaker 1>oh and seven, so they fall to oh and seven

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in eleven years. Excuse me. They

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>were booed repeatedly by their home crowds, so maybe they're

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 1>happy to go to London. Um, here's some stuff. Miles

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>jack picked off Dalton at the Jacksonville ten to preserve

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the late lead. Uh, Yannick, Uh is am I pronouncing

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that correctly? Gockway, I'm sorry, Yannick and Golockway his interception

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>return of a floating screen pass put it away when

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>in Gockway. Here's here's what I wanted to point out

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 1>about in Gockway when he saw Giovanni Bernard in the game.

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 1>This is what he said after the game. He said

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he figured Cincinnati was going to throw a screen pass

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and got on position to pick it off. Quote. I

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>noticed when Bernard was in the game, they were looking

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to pass, and when it was Joe Mix and they

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>were looking to run, So I thought it was going

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to be a screen So efforts that simple. Uh, it

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>sells you something about the Cincinnati Bengals. Right there by

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the way first five possessions of the game, the Bengals

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>ran eighteen blaze and managed twenty yards your Cincinnata Bengals

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the Rams when Jared Goff two touchdowns ran for another.

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey's addition to the secondary worked out well yesterday.

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>The defense enjoyed the productive day five sacks, a pick,

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a fumble return for a touchdown against the Falcons. Ramsey

0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 1>uh blanketed Julio Jones kept into six catch is for

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety three yards, so that worked out well. First returns.

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Rams are gonna stay in Atlanta. For those wondering about

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 1>travel here, Rams are gonna stay in Atlanta to practice

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>at Georgia Tech for a few days before flying into

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>London for the game against the Bengals. Because it's in London.

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this before. It mutes what otherwise would

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 1>be a bigger spread to me because the travel sort

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of mitigates it. So I will put it just shy

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 1>of two touchdowns as opposed to two touchdowns are greater.

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll say Rams minus thirteen. Uh, it's twelve and a

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 1>half or thirteen. I might be more proud of about

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that guest than anything. Yeah, that's a very good guests.

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna open twelve and a half. You know, I

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>think this game will be a little closer than the

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 1>third team. Can you kind of mentioned that it mitigates

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the high scoring and the bloilout factor.

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm not sure that's always true good sometimes, But

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about some bad coaches. Zach Taylor. Is that

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the guy's just in Sinnati? Look, yeah, oh my god,

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>where did they get this guy? I mean, he is

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so bad. You know, he is just totally clueless. And

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, if you have guys on the defensive

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>lineman are reading plays like you know, come on, how

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>simple an explanation? Right? Yeah? Yeah? And I mean I listen.

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>The Brown family, who has owned the Bengals since their inception,

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>is notoriously cheap, and they have taken the city of

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati for a ride for low these many years. And

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I think this is just one more case. They found

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a kid that they you know, probably interviewed well and

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 1>had some people recommend him. He is not ready to

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>be an NFL coach. And I think there's some guys

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that grow into their positions, certainly the case, and other

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 1>guys that just don't have it. So far, I see

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing to tell me that this guy havn't you know,

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm going off on this tirade and I'm still open

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 1>twelve and it happen instead of thirteen. It's kind of

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>both numbers out there, but I'm gonna open twelve and

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 1>a half just because I just think thirteen is a

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.680
<v Speaker 1>little too high in this spot. And again, you're you're

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 1>buying low on Cincinnati selling high a little bit on

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the Rams, and I think this number is a little

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>bit out of hand. I wouldn't go crazy over it,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna open twelve and half instead of thirteen.

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>And there are both numbers around, but I'm gonna go

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 1>with the lower number. Chrisie, has there been anything yet

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>on the show that I've been like, what was the

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess Minnesota Washington is the one I was the

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>furthest off from. But even that doesn't really excite me

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that much. Um, But nothing yet that leaps off the page.

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 1>So I'm wondering if we're gonna get to it, which one,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeff I was gonna say, where I think we're on

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>our way to get you predicted? You predict I'm gonna

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>fall flat on my face. Well, maybe that's a good thing.

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Guess it's been the last couple of weeks. What's next,

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris Arizona at New Orleans Arizona and looks just say, yeah,

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees is upgraded to questionable and so is the

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Alvin for yeah. I mean, let's remember that about the

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans win yesterday. I think you point that's a

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 1>good thing to point out. There was no Alvin Kamara, right,

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and there was no Jared Cook, Alvin Kamara with an

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ankle and knee, Jared Cook with an ankle. So Teddy

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Bridgewater didn't have them at his disposal yesterday, and they

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>still crushed the Bears. The Saints go to five and

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>oh without Drew Brees in their thirty six to twenty

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>five win over the Bears, which, by the way, that score,

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in case you're wondering, very cosmetic. It was helped along

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>by an onside kick late. Um it was. It was

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>much more of a blowout than that. Latavia's Murray carries

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a d nine yards too touchdowns. Teddy Bridgewater Teddy Bear

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty three or thirty eight for two eight one two

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns note picks Michael Thomas nine catches, one thirty one.

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>The Saints were seven of fifteen on third down out

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>gained the Bears, as we mentioned, fifty two on the

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>ground they outgained him one fifty one to seventeen, and

0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>again a time of possession mismatch thirty seven six thirty four.

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>As far as the Cardinals who beat the Giants and

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 1>did so as three and a half point dogs in

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the end, Kyler Murray. The up and down first year

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of Kyler Murray continues. Fourteen of twenty one for one

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>oh four, no touchdowns, no picks. Did you have Chase

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Edmonds going in your fantasy league? Chase Edmonds twenty seven

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>carries for one six and three touchdowns. Cardinals were seven

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of fifteen on third down. They were one for one

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>on fourth downs. I mean that's been Kyler Murray's thing

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>third downs. He is been really good. Ten penalties though

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>for the Cardinals for eighty five yards. They were plus

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>three in turnovers versus the Giants. Their third straight win.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>They were oh three and one now they're three three

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in one. They had eight sacks, as I mentioned of

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones, four of them in a forced fumble from

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones. Um that's said, because you're right, Drew Brees

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I even mentioned this last week Drew Brees was thinking about,

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>or at least the Saints have been floating through reports

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>anyway that Breeze might want to come act for this game,

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>which is right before their bye week, when most would

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 1>have sort of assumed they'll just wait him out through

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the bye week. And Drew Brees says he hasn't told

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>anybody yet. He's said to people, I know when I'm

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>coming back. So this could very well be Drew Brees.

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll be Teddy Barry again. I don't know, but

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll say New Orleans by two touchdowns here at the

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>super Dome. Wow, you're a little high. It's the nine

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>nine and a half? Really yeah, I will lay that

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>all day long. I'm kind of with you and this one. Now,

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:38.959
<v Speaker 1>they they numbers up with or without Drew Brees, and

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I believe these are accurate numbers. I mean,

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, sometimes on my screen, I'm not sure

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 1>if they scratch scratch the game on my screen? How

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is that only nine? But not in a half of that.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't give me the Saints. Give me the Saints

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>with you him for what it's worth. Gil. One other

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>shop in town open the seven and a half, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>stop it, so no, I'm just I'm just saying this

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>open at seven and a half of the other places

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<v Speaker 1>in town. Chris, what ligam we're watching here? What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? Well? You know, I've been anti Murray really

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<v Speaker 1>thin today one and you know, he's been much much

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<v Speaker 1>better than I anticipated, much better. I'll give him that.

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<v Speaker 1>But so is New Orleans. I mean New Orleans. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said yesterday, a lot of wise guy money showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm not sure it was really on Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>as much it was against New Orleans because of their injuries. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this team has proven to be really, really good

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<v Speaker 1>and I have one very short better. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention his name, but a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 1>though exactly who it is who bet me on the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints to win the NFC. He had a pretty good

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>price on him, and he bet me on that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might be right. I think this might

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<v Speaker 1>be the best team in the NFC. He might be

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<v Speaker 1>uh And we've and we've been seeing this without Drew Breenes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a Hall of Fame quarterback. I'm gonna open

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<v Speaker 1>ten and listen, listen, you never know what goes through

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<v Speaker 1>the mind of a guy who's a competitive as Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees's forty years old, still playing pretty good football. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to question, like I said, the personality,

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, what made him what he is today.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're nuts that they play in this game, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would go with Teddy, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they would need him to win this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy is doing just fine. He's not he's not Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees yet, you know, but he's doing this fine. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give Breese the extra week off and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've got to buy after that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna get a healthy Breeds coming back. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna open this game ten and we'll see where they

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<v Speaker 1>go from there. Yeah, they're doing it with offense, they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it with defense, they're doing with special teams. Well

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<v Speaker 1>rounded football team. And that's and that's the first headline

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<v Speaker 1>line of today, that's for sure, because I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really well coached and really home coached. Absolutely, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do the last early game. The Oakland had Houston Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>and Houston, UM Houston who we mentioned or maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention Houston yesterday they lose to the Indianapolis Colts

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<v Speaker 1>in what was probably the biggest game of the day

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<v Speaker 1>just in terms of a divisional game. Uh, Indianapolis with

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty to twenty three win. Houston, for their part,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just focus on them. Deshaun Watson twenty three thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>three oh eight, one touchdown, two picks, sacked three times.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times have we said the Deshaun Watson retroactive

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<v Speaker 1>box score? And you could say this about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys, but it's really stark when it comes to Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>When he is clean, they win. When he is not,

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<v Speaker 1>it tends to be multiple sacks. So we get three

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<v Speaker 1>here for Deshaun Watson. UH. DeAndre Hopkins nine catches, one

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<v Speaker 1>oh six for a touchdown, Stills four catches for one

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<v Speaker 1>oh five. But uh, the Texans ten penalties fifty four yards.

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<v Speaker 1>They were held the field goals on three red zone

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<v Speaker 1>trips in the first half, had to contend with a

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<v Speaker 1>rare in the grasp call that took one touchdown off

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<v Speaker 1>the board, overturned replay review that put another one on

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<v Speaker 1>the board for Indie, and the plethora of penalties. As

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, fourth quarter, Houston started it by failing to

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<v Speaker 1>convert a second fourth in one attempt, then to Shawn

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<v Speaker 1>through an interception on the Texans next series, before Darius

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard sealed the win by picking off a tip pass

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty six seconds left. So Houston loses. They dropped

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<v Speaker 1>to four and three. Oakland. Um. Look, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>that first half was everything in that game, everything right,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Derek Carr has done this before. It's the old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the old reach over the goal line to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get a touchdown and the ball gets loses possession.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes through the end zone, doesn't you know, fumble

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds in play on the field, on the

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<v Speaker 1>playing field, but through the end zone. And the NFL rule,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me is the dumbest rule in sports, gives

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to the opposing team. I do not understand

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<v Speaker 1>the logic of that, because you are incentivised to reach over,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're incentivized to reach over the Drew Brees

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<v Speaker 1>wave kind of thing, then that does it just get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, give the give the Saints, excuse me, give

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders the ball back of the twenty or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but to it change possession. It's just a rule that

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense to me, so Derek Carr. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders making this a close game, they're down fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>ten at the time, and Car puts them a position

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<v Speaker 1>to retake the lead with the forty eight yard completion

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<v Speaker 1>down the middle to Waller gave Oakland first and goal

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<v Speaker 1>at the four. The second down scrambled them by Car

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<v Speaker 1>at the pylon um Blake Martinez forces the fumble, goes

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<v Speaker 1>through the end zone for a touchback. The next time

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland basically got the ball, they did get one play

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<v Speaker 1>because this is with seconds left, because immediately green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and scores with seconds left in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>so instead of it being seventeen fourteen Raiders, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>ten Packers. The Raiders have only time for one nonsense play.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the first half, green Bay gets

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<v Speaker 1>the ball first and the second they score again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen fourteen shift seventeen fourteen Raiders Packers. That's the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over and the Raiders fall to three and three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say Houston by six at Houston, do a little

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<v Speaker 1>light at six and a half, and boy, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I was. You know, it was not a

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<v Speaker 1>big game for the South Point. You know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty even on that. Uh, the early money was on

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders. Late money came back on the Packers, so

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<v Speaker 1>we were pretty much dead even on the games. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had opened and a couple of contests, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was really Prokland. I wanted to kill car. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that play. And we had to debate the

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<v Speaker 1>rule all you want. I mean, that's not the point.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is that is the rule. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did it last year and again, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>with his off hand, which is with his left hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just assume that his right hand is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a little stronger, so it's a left hand that

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<v Speaker 1>he's reaching over like that. And remember last year he

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<v Speaker 1>said after a game, somebody asking would you do that again?

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it the exact same way. Oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're confirming that you're an idiot. He didn't learn anything. Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another confirmation that he didn't learn a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he did the exact same thing again with

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<v Speaker 1>this off hand, reaching it like that. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they have third and goal from like the one inch line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad position of being. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was such a stupid play. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you this, I am now totally off car.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope they don't resign him for the

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<v Speaker 1>same as well. And I would tepe his house when

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<v Speaker 1>he's living in Henderson or Southern Highlands. He's never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it. The Los Vegas Broodens gonna kill this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>not not only get the Vegas, not only is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to Vegas. He's t being houses for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Somebody tweeted that to me. I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too old to do that stuff, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is just such a dumb playing. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear his comments after this game and after

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<v Speaker 1>the last time, and then he said I would do

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing. Well, I'm sorry, that is just

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<v Speaker 1>dumb dumb football. Can I and uh, that's enough on

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<v Speaker 1>my tyrant. I am opening six and a half and

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, as long as cars there, that will

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<v Speaker 1>never be a winning game. I'm sorry they will not

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<v Speaker 1>win the I'm not absolving Jon Gruden, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if if only he had a coach, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>if he was if Bill Belichick was his coach, you

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd ever do that? Again after the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>No Belichick, that again, and you ever do that again,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're out of here. You're out of here for good.

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<v Speaker 1>Not John Gluten. John was, yeah, I keep doing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good football. You know. I hate to say, because

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was much much better than car but Bret

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<v Speaker 1>Farve had some horrible, horrible mistakes in his career throwing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, still still advised passes the resulted in turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember after games he was, I'm gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way I'd play. I'm gonna keep playing my game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he'd have been so much better if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would have just throttled him and says, no, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not We know how great you are. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>a great quarterback, tremendous town that he made some dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>dumb plays over his career. He did. Listen, he won

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<v Speaker 1>one Super Bowl. If he was a smarter quarterback, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>have three or four in his in his pocket. One.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. At least at least more than one.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, at least more than one. Yeah, at least

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<v Speaker 1>more than one. And uh, you know, I see some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys and you know it again, part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is their mental attitude that have made him so great.

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<v Speaker 1>The car is not that great, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>he should learn to play this game a little better

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<v Speaker 1>because that was just a stupid, stupid play. We'll come back,

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to make a scheduling comment here? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>are we out of order? Did something happen? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and NFL scheduling swaps, so that the last game

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about that would be a four four

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<v Speaker 1>East Pacific. That Oakland, Texan game was flipped with Indie

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<v Speaker 1>and Denver and he never goes at one o'clock East.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris A kidding, just scolding Chris A. Okay, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a flipp in his schedule, all right, so let's do

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<v Speaker 1>so what's next schedule? Right? There? Will be all right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So what's the next game? Then? Uh? Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>at San Francisco. Carolina and San Francisco, San Francisco undefeated.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Redskins nine to nothing in the slop

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<v Speaker 1>uh FedEx field is the Niners were just uh slip

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<v Speaker 1>sliding in the in the rain yesterday six and over

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<v Speaker 1>the third time in franchise history, first since Kyle Shanahan,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he remembers from being O, C and D C

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<v Speaker 1>FedEx Field surface uh is not good, especially in clement weather. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The San Francisco d after holding the Rams of seven

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<v Speaker 1>points last week the Browns the three before that, Niners

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<v Speaker 1>are the first team now since two thousand five and

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<v Speaker 1>six since nineteen nine to limit an opponent to seven

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<v Speaker 1>or fewer points in fewer than two yards of offense

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<v Speaker 1>three straight games. More than half the people there Niners

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<v Speaker 1>fans yesterday at FedEx Field, a trend that the Redskins

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<v Speaker 1>are also familiar with. Even a let's go Niners chant

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<v Speaker 1>broke out its point, so way to go d C.

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<v Speaker 1>You still have the Mystics and maybe the Nets. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Carolina off the bottom Capitals and the Capitals

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<v Speaker 1>one year removed will still say the Caps, Yeah, Caps

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<v Speaker 1>a little sneaky futures play. I think of the NHL

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Caroline is coming off of bye. They when

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<v Speaker 1>we last saw them were beating Tampa Bay in London,

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco minus four and a half. Chris, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's high the half and kind of choe. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little white. I think had like the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth better and I think I'm gonna open at six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of that UM Carolina coming off of by

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably gonna help them. I agree with that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to believe in that San Francisco team. Uh, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the weakest link on their taking fight be Jimmy Garoppolov

1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:47.599
<v Speaker 1>and they have They really have a good running game,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a great defense. I think his team is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very legit, and I'm gonna open six. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better number. I think this number is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out myself. I got him to win

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<v Speaker 1>the West plus before the season, considering a of a

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<v Speaker 1>NFC or Super Bowl play on them as well. What's

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<v Speaker 1>another afternoon game Denver at Indianapolis. This is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually in the morning now, Jeff Okay, So Denver

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<v Speaker 1>Indeapolis originally schedule for afternoon is noway morning game Denver

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of by. UM No, no, no, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>extra rest party, yeah, extra rest. They lose to Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City badly on Thursday. And then there's the Colts that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about to beat the Texans. Jacoby Brissette. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it again, Christie, I know you want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave through the phone and choke me. Is it really

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<v Speaker 1>that big a drop off from Andrew Luck twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty nine twenty six of thirty nine for three

1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:44.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, four touchdowns, no picks, career high in touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Six of his incompletions were throwaways, so make it thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three if you want to do that. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>career best in passing total and yards, a career best

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<v Speaker 1>pass a rating one point seven. Zach Pascal by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>as biggest target six and one of six two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>They were eight of six seen on third downs were

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts um Colts by a touchdown minus seven. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half. I'm not sure I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>your number better, but I see, uh, I see a

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<v Speaker 1>six in the hallway place that I and I highly respect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I like your number better, although, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna respect them with their number at six, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm opening six and a half, and that's what I see,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily a six and a half. I see one seven

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of juice on the dog, which kind

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<v Speaker 1>of translates to a six and a half anyway. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna open at six and a half. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you if I see this one creeping higher, I

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<v Speaker 1>will creep it higher. My own self, will creep my

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<v Speaker 1>own self. I don't think. I don't think Denver is

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<v Speaker 1>a very good thing, and I think Indianapolis is really

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<v Speaker 1>a very legit team. And since we're on the subject

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<v Speaker 1>to quarterback, and then I had this kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>team when Andrew Luck was playing, Andrew Luck would still

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<v Speaker 1>be playing. And by the way, let me remind you

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<v Speaker 1>what we had the we put up the m v

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<v Speaker 1>P s before the season. Betting on the m v

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<v Speaker 1>P it was the second choice behind the homes. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a difference. But all that being said, I like

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<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Brisett. He's done really well and really gotten better

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<v Speaker 1>and better as the years gone on. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know legitimate starting quarterback. Ladies, gentlemen, noted

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Luck advocate and apologist Chris Andrews my two friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to apologize. I will tell you this. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, the debate was seven or seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So for you to say six and a half, that

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<v Speaker 1>surprises me. On that game, you're like, you're like that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do too, Yeah and do all right? So

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<v Speaker 1>what's the last afternoon game? Uh, Cleveland at New England. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so not much to say here. Cleveland off of by

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<v Speaker 1>New England's sight unseen. Tonight they play the Jets. They're

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half road favorites, not and a half point.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen some ten's out there. Um really depending

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<v Speaker 1>on where you go at the Jets tonight. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's gonna be more than a touchdown. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen the Patriots yet. The Patriots are not

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<v Speaker 1>though they're undefeated, they look like they have some chinks

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<v Speaker 1>in the armor. I mean, I'll say, I'll say it's

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a half. I'll probably I'm probably too light there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got to be more than a touchdown. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say seven and a half as a placeholder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're way light. It's ten and a half. Mhm um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's probably a pretty good spot for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, yeah, in New England coming off the short

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<v Speaker 1>rest because they're gonna be playing tonight and coming right

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<v Speaker 1>back you know. Um, you know, his Bilichick going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall prede to that short less, probably less than any

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<v Speaker 1>other coach, but still his players will. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not some sort of magic formula in New England. I mean,

1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:52.920
<v Speaker 1>those guys are gonna be a little bit more sore. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know throughout the week that they will be in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>who is just like I said coming off, I'll buy

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna have their like their practices make the

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<v Speaker 1>ten and a half's probably a shade too high. But

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<v Speaker 1>even tonight, I got some biggest sure on New England,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a ceiling we're I think we're nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half on the game. I'm gonna probably go

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<v Speaker 1>to ten after this once I get the what if,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they're gonna be highly in favor of

1:16:18.680 --> 1:16:20.760
<v Speaker 1>me meeting the dog. So I'm an open ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. You never have to beg too much for

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<v Speaker 1>a New England money, and I have a feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>won't have to beg for it next week, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you want New England, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to bet New England at the south Point, run quickly

1:16:30.880 --> 1:16:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in the next twenty minutes before Christie post them, I

1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:36.960
<v Speaker 1>would say, yeah, you got you got twenty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>The only the only thing I would say about me,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want it if it's ten and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I gravitate towards Cleveland, it would go against everything I

1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:45.519
<v Speaker 1>stand for, right, I would be betting on Freddie Kitchens

1:16:45.520 --> 1:16:49.040
<v Speaker 1>against against Bill Belichick. So like I can't come on again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying there's a coaching different area. Is the team

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm picking up might be a little some We'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back. We'll do the primetime game Sunday night, Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>We gate in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers twenty five of

1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:03.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty one for four nine, five touchdowns at a pick

1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:07.040
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, five touchdowns no picks. Ran for another. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the first perfect passer rating of Aaron Rodgers career.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe that? One? Fifty eight point three uh

1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:18.439
<v Speaker 1>season high for the Packers and points in that game. Uh,

1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:21.799
<v Speaker 1>even with Davante Adams out by the way, no Davante Adams,

1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay still puts up um forty two points in

1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:29.519
<v Speaker 1>that ball game. Winners Valdez Scantling two catches, one three

1:17:29.600 --> 1:17:32.400
<v Speaker 1>touchdown and then Kansas City will be Matt Moore, not

1:17:32.680 --> 1:17:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes will be on extra rest, but they won't

1:17:34.960 --> 1:17:37.600
<v Speaker 1>have their m v P quarterback. So because of that

1:17:37.680 --> 1:17:40.879
<v Speaker 1>quarterback changes, we talked about what's the difference between Mahomes

1:17:40.880 --> 1:17:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and more It's a bunch of points. It's more than

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, So I'll say it's Green Bay minus three.

1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:50.439
<v Speaker 1>On the road it's four. I'm not sure I disagree

1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:54.000
<v Speaker 1>with that four. By the way we met, I mentioned

1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:59.720
<v Speaker 1>QBR an awful lot um, So it's one zero and

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<v Speaker 1>the Rogers was ninety seven point two, certainly the highest

1:18:05.120 --> 1:18:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of the week. That may be some higher. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get a hundred hard to get, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember seeing some ninety eight and stuff out there over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. That's a pretty darny good passive rate to

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<v Speaker 1>b R. And I'm sure what do you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do to get a hundred with unbelievable yesterday? Certainly his

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<v Speaker 1>best game of the year without without his main receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>although what's the one guy? I had a big game?

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<v Speaker 1>My notes here, uh vast two catches but a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty three yards. I'm not sure I ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>of it before yesterday, you know, but he certainly makes

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<v Speaker 1>a big place like green day four. I see a strain.

1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I even see one three with some juice on the favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I see some three and asks, but I like four. Listen, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think Kansas City number one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're the home field advantage that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>used to over the years. For giving that much credit.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an article about one of the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the newspapers got a hold of me, talked about home

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<v Speaker 1>field advantages really hasn't been that prevalent in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And I think there's a lot of reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for that, coaching being one of them, the way teams

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<v Speaker 1>traveled being another one. But I don't think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge home field advantage for Kansas City here, certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>in this spot. And more, I mean, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's been around, he's capable, but again he's not He's

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<v Speaker 1>not great. You kind of know what we're agatting with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think four is plenty, and again you're probably buying

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<v Speaker 1>greening me a little bit high, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the late price. I think I like four

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<v Speaker 1>in this scheme. All right, Jeff tells me, because Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>knows my my guess is in advance. Jeff tells me

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<v Speaker 1>that this game, this Monday night game, is my most

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<v Speaker 1>far off guests of the year coming up. So the

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<v Speaker 1>matchup is who again Miami and Pittsburgh. Okay, Pittsburgh coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of by Miami coming off they're lost to the

1:20:00.520 --> 1:20:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Bills yesterday, but covering, And we talked about the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>last week. No way I thought it should be that

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<v Speaker 1>number of seventeen, especially midweek when it when it shifted

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<v Speaker 1>from Josh Roseen Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Dolphins end up covering.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost snatched a push from the jaws of a cover,

1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>but should have covered easily, and they do end up covering.

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<v Speaker 1>So my Ryan Fitzpatrick yesterday two eighty two, one touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>one pick against the Bills, one of his seven former teams. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins were up fourteen to nine after two consecutive

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five yard drives engineered by Fitzpatrick. UM cut the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills lead twenty one with a touchdown scamper later. By

1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that time it was over. The Bill's six game streak

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<v Speaker 1>of not giving up more than seventeen points was snapped,

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<v Speaker 1>and UH the Bills first time this year they've not

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<v Speaker 1>held an opponent two or fifty yards passing, actually fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>games in a row, so that that's what Fitzpatrick did.

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<v Speaker 1>He exceeded that number. Miami loses UM worst start since

1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it lost its first seven and the eleven. But his

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<v Speaker 1>performance yesterday again after they were outscored on to forty

1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>two over their first five games, you know, that should

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<v Speaker 1>that should drive it home to people. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>serviceable quarterback. I know he throws it all around the yard,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's Ryan Fitzpatrick is not Josh Rosen. The out

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<v Speaker 1>first down the bill seventeen. There was seven of thirteen

1:21:18.240 --> 1:21:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on third downs, two of two on fourth downs. They

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<v Speaker 1>outgained Buffalo three and one to three or five. They

1:21:22.520 --> 1:21:25.879
<v Speaker 1>were minus two in turnovers. Brian Flores says, Ryan Fitzpatrick,

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting next week, I have Pittsburgh minus seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Jeff just laughed at me. You know, as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you said that, I knew you were worried.

1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I wish somebody would have captain into my brain because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were gonna make it seven and a half.

1:21:43.120 --> 1:21:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I knew it. It's fourteen and a half of fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, I even see one sixteen with

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of juice on the dog. So we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably call it fifteen or fifteen and a half. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen and a half of fifteen. You know, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just say this, your numbers, right, I don't think it's right.

1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:08.360
<v Speaker 1>But this is way too high, way too high. Stop it.

1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:13.479
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing a Steeler fan? I mean even

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<v Speaker 1>like I had, I've had dogs over the years where

1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I've made him. I've got him in black and golf

1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>so that I can I name my one dog Ruoney

1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>after the Ruoney families. I am as Steeler Van period.

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<v Speaker 1>This is way do I wait? This is not only

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<v Speaker 1>my furthest off guest of the year, This is my

1:22:30.000 --> 1:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>furthest off guest of all time in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>guessing lines. I think so. I think so. In other words,

1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you're getting a one game teaser if you played Miami

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<v Speaker 1>according to your number, right, Chris, we gotta take a break.

1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:45.360
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back, We'll get We'll go through the games

1:22:45.479 --> 1:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that we love the most. I'll have something else to

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<v Speaker 1>say about this. It's coming up on a numbers game

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<v Speaker 1>right here at Visa. Welcome back to a numbers game

1:22:53.960 --> 1:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>with Jill Alexander. I'm just gonna point it out laugh

1:22:57.040 --> 1:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>every Monday when you want all of these have come

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<v Speaker 1>our way or are the results have proven us right

1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:06.120
<v Speaker 1>consistently on guessing lines as that's my farthest off guests

1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of all time, Chrissy, what are you finally putting up

1:23:08.200 --> 1:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh line at Officially, I'm gonna use fourteen just

1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>because I see it as high as fifteen and a

1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:16.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of spots. But I'm gonna over fourteen. I know

1:23:16.479 --> 1:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna bet me. That's that's fine. That's what we're here,

1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:21.799
<v Speaker 1>a ford. Uh So come on and lay the fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a believer, you might not get a better

1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>number all week. But there's a Steeler fan that's just

1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that's just too high. My line is better between you

1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and me, it's better. I'm taking Pittsburgh. I'm taking I'm

1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>excuse me. I'm taking Miami because it's absolutely ridiculous. I'll

1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>take them for a second straight week. I'm taking New

1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Orleans because I think that's way low against the Cardinals.

1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'm taking the Colts. If you're telling me that

1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the Colts are six and a half against the Broncos

1:23:52.840 --> 1:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>off the key number of seven, I will take the

1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Colts all day long. So those are the three I

1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>like the best. You boy, I would have to agree

1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>with you all three of those, you know, I I

1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>really think you're right, you know? Um, I like in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to those three, I like Tennessee. I think this

1:24:09.479 --> 1:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>number really should have been a solid three. It's really

1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>two and a half. I think that's what I'm going

1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to open, because a lot of time to make an adjustment.

1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>If I put up three, I know which way they're betting.

1:24:17.720 --> 1:24:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I like Philly, Um not a numbers play, but I

1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:24.519
<v Speaker 1>just think it's like I said, you're buying low someone

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<v Speaker 1>high a little bit, a little bit on Buffalo, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely buying low on Philadelphia. And then the three

1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>ding you mentioned. I like myself and I kind of

1:24:32.400 --> 1:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like San Francisco a little bit too. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>numbers a little cheak Chrissy, I love you, Thank you

1:24:36.320 --> 1:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>so much. Man. We'll do it again next week. Always fun. Yes, sir,

1:24:39.400 --> 1:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>hopefully I will see you this Yes, the return of

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and thank you, hope hopeful, fingers crossed. Thank you

1:24:45.760 --> 1:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody listening. Good luck with all your bets tonight