WEBVTT - “I’M KICKING MY ADDICTION”

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<v Speaker 1>the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Who's this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's up? Just struggling with sobriety?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess struggling with sobriety?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, how old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>What what sobriety? What kind of sobriety?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Well, it was originally a opioid kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it evolved to a myth. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can say that on stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Very sorry if I can't, you can say whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Yeah, it was opioid originally. I sent

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<v Speaker 2>it and I kind of beat that and it turned

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<v Speaker 2>into speed and I'm about a year sober from everything now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess I'm just kind of mentally hitting rock bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of engaging in drug seeking behavior. I

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<v Speaker 2>lost my insurance and I don't have any, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did to talk to so here, I am. Do you.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were getting clean off of the drugs, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have a counselor anybody who was helping you or

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<v Speaker 1>was it just a sheer force of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at first, with Defend, I definitely went through a program,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the program, I got a job at providing

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<v Speaker 2>the insurance and I used the insurance from that to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of continue to get counseling and stuff. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I met some people I probably shouldn't have and I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered Speed and it, you know, I kind of used

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<v Speaker 2>speed as a crutch saying I can get off that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and I kind of had a weird relationship

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<v Speaker 2>for like four years, swapping between the two of those.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been pretty pretty crappy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I'm going to tell you this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you know about me or my show, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen the YouTube videos and yeah, you know you're not a.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a real therapist. I'm a I'm a I

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<v Speaker 1>am a little I am a fourteen year old boy

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<v Speaker 1>in a gecko costume. Yeah, no, if you I and

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<v Speaker 1>I was. If you if if you accept that and

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, well, I'm happy to talk to you about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. I'm just here to talk. Man. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm gonna like relap. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I engaged in drugs behavior and then your notification popped

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<v Speaker 2>up on my phone. Screw it. I'm gonna give it

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<v Speaker 2>to the call. And I watched here and there, so

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<v Speaker 2>here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So how long, I mean, how long have you was?

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<v Speaker 1>So you you're a year or sober from everything? You're

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<v Speaker 1>not on You're not doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything, no nothing, now like maybe you know sweed here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, but I don't really count that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that might help me more than anything. But yeah, about

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<v Speaker 2>a year in some months now, probably a year in

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<v Speaker 2>three months to be exact. That's of July of last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, when you were kicking your addiction, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the most helpful thing for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly? Honestly, Uh, it was, Uh it's weird, but YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and you know, just just gunplog got into

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<v Speaker 2>like Gundam and stuff like that, like weird stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I found new things to focus myself on.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, so I'm building a little robots and

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty fun, but that's kind of lost its

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<v Speaker 2>luster now. And uh, like I said, I I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a high school drop I didn't say this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a hospital drop out. I'm currently getting my education again,

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<v Speaker 2>So go me on that. But I think that might

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<v Speaker 2>be part of the reason why I'm kind of stressed

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're starting, you're starting to get your education again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want the online Yeah, I found

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<v Speaker 2>an online high school and it's it was fifteen hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's not a ged it's an hospital, Obama,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can actually learn some things that I needed

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't back in high school before I dropped out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's they're good.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your like? Uh? I guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>ideal plan. Do you have a job that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try to do or a career you want to

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<v Speaker 1>try to go into.

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<v Speaker 2>I do, actually, yeah, so well not like a career,

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<v Speaker 2>but right now I have a plan. So my my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and my girlfriend, they both work at a hospital

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<v Speaker 2>and it pays very well, and I have it. I

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much have the job now. I just have to

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<v Speaker 2>get this just diploma out of the way so I

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<v Speaker 2>can actually have, you know, so I can pass the screening,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because they require diploma or gud. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>my plan right now, and I really want that because

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<v Speaker 2>it'll give me the kind of money I can have

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<v Speaker 2>to not do you know, painting and yard work and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the stressful ship. I don't like, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you with your you with your parents?

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not. I I moved out when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like in nineteen and so I've been on my own

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<v Speaker 2>since then. They my mom does help me out a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't like living at home. I like the freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm living with the roommate right now. And at

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<v Speaker 2>my last job, I saved up enough money to kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, situations like this where I lose my

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<v Speaker 2>job and need to figure things out, you know, m

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<v Speaker 2>M yeah, sorry, it's a little it's a whole can

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<v Speaker 2>of beans. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no. Well so in the past, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, how are you feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, like ship? I want? Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was on Facebook earlier trying to I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>I was engaging in drugs and behavior. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to find something and all, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to find math whatever I can.

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<v Speaker 1>But wait, hold on, I gotta I gotta ask you

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<v Speaker 1>how how how do you find meth on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they just is there just a dude on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>place with like no man taking pictures of math and post.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, when you do ship like that, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>meet a lot of people down the line, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of stick around on that friend's list because

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<v Speaker 2>you forget about them when you're done, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just remember some of those people and hit them up,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I thought there was like some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a created thing like.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like somebody you like, like selling a Renaissance style futon.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually no, no, I think it's people. I probably should

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<v Speaker 2>have like deleted them blocked a long time ago. Honestly

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, and you know I probably will now that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually on this weird Uh, sorry to call your

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<v Speaker 2>stream weird. It's not weird.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's very No, it's very it's very weird. What

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. That's very bizarre. It's very bizarre. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>need to hide from that idea. Tell me about I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>unless unless if it's unhelpful for you. If it's unhelpful

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<v Speaker 1>for you, I don't want to do it. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about the universe of that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Who are these guys? How do you not

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<v Speaker 1>like they're fucking I'm not like the FBI. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>neither names and addresses. But who are these guys? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you know them? Were they friends of yours?

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<v Speaker 2>I can kind of talk about how I even got

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<v Speaker 2>into that kind of life. See, Yeah, that so basically

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty seven now. I was living with some roommates

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<v Speaker 2>spec and I was about twenty four to twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and I, you know, I was I discovered opiates. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole different story. But with the mess life right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was with some roommates and my one of my

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<v Speaker 2>roommates caught me snorting you know, hydro's off of the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom sink, and they kicked me out, obviously. And funny enough,

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<v Speaker 2>these are my current roommates now. They forgave me and

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<v Speaker 2>I still I live with them to this day because

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<v Speaker 2>they're some of my best friends. And but before that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they kicked me out and I had nowhere to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a you know, a savedan's account at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. So I went to live with a different

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine who lived in kind of the shadier

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<v Speaker 2>part of town. And and when I got there, uh, yeah, first,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I kind of figured they were doing something

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<v Speaker 2>could get people over all the time. And they were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing stuff in his room all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I kind of walked in on it

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<v Speaker 2>one day and they were like, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it. You know, I've seen breaking bad. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell they were doing. Uh, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I try it? And they they they literally said

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want any part of this or you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this, and I was like, yeah, I dude,

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<v Speaker 2>that was you know, stupid and therefore that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>got into That's how I got into it basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Mhmm. How many years ago did you say that was?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? So, I'm twenty seven now, three or four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is rough roughly so in the year do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've talked to any doctor as

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<v Speaker 1>or therapist, but do you know if you did any

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<v Speaker 1>any like permanent damage to your body?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably a little bit. Uh. I didn't smoke it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was always a snorter for most things. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>I like this last year when I kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>off of everything, I have found it hard to find

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<v Speaker 2>open mune and things, and I used to like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is getting better, though. I will not lie like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't good. I wasn't like you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will say this, I didn't do it like every single

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<v Speaker 2>day all the time. I was more of like a

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend warrior or whatever like I would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was like I guess to say face

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you know, I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like so many people on that it's all so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, so you say it's getting better in the past year,

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<v Speaker 1>What if any what's been giving you dopamine? Even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit, uh video games, uh, alcohol, TV shows. I guess, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just living life. And I have a girlfriend now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with her for a year and been with

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<v Speaker 2>her for a year and almost three months now, and

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<v Speaker 2>she did help me out a lot, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, it wasn't just her like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and she knows about my past and stuff. She's at

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<v Speaker 2>work right now, so and I'd also don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>put all that on her either, you know, obviously, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's not her job to you know, consistently take care

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<v Speaker 2>of if I'm wanting to relapse. And most of the

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<v Speaker 2>time I kind of hide that. But yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have access to insurance right now, so and I

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<v Speaker 2>know I had some local stuff I can go to,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did do that. I went to a local

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<v Speaker 2>clinic that is income based, and honestly, they they don't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to care. I know that's kind of weird, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have the same kind of I didn't repeat

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<v Speaker 2>the same kind of care I got when I had insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So yeah, how did you meet your girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>Met her at work? Actually, I got a job at

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<v Speaker 2>the Mall of all Things after when I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>sober and she was, yeah, was doing what It was

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<v Speaker 2>just a pop culture retail store.

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<v Speaker 1>A pop culture retail store, like one of those like

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<v Speaker 1>like like what do you sell likes and ship like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, it was kind of like box lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, cool. Did you do a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>still go to malls, this.

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<v Speaker 2>One in particular, not really. We maybe made two grand

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<v Speaker 2>to day, but during the holidays, yes, during Christmas, Tom

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and all right, so things are going good with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the girlfriend. Has she been helpful for you

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<v Speaker 1>during this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly she's She's never judged me or threatened any weird stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>Like every time I've ever mentioned it in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>she's always been buried down for me. And that's been

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome experience because my eggs a whole other Canadians.

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<v Speaker 2>She was actually pretty damn abusive towards me, and to

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<v Speaker 2>the point that where she got arrested for it, which

0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I know they don't get that often. Where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's the you know, the other like normally it's

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<v Speaker 2>the dude's beaten girls. But now she hit me with

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<v Speaker 2>the car, and the neighbors called the tops on her,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the whole Canadians And she she weaponized

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<v Speaker 2>my addiction too. By anytime we got into a back argument,

0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.920
<v Speaker 2>she would just like yes, she would you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>call me an addict or her words, a junkie. I hate.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate being called that because I don't consider myself

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<v Speaker 2>a junkie at all. I've you know, yeah, sorry, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is new for me. I'm very sorry. What no, what?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel? Sorry right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm kind of just filling some beans on people

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<v Speaker 2>that are in my past, and what if they stumble

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<v Speaker 2>upon this some day. I don't want them to just

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<v Speaker 2>like message me I don't know where and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>did you talk to it about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well I didn't think about that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Given we can, we can, we can, we we can,

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<v Speaker 1>we can blur your name, will blur your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you, I mean, how do you feel talking

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<v Speaker 1>about all this stuff to me into into people on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I have adrenaline right now, So that might seem kind

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<v Speaker 2>of weird. It's definitely give me a gentlealine, but it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feels good to kind of like talk to

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<v Speaker 2>someone I don't know and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just okay, Well, it's interesting because I'm as you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm thinking about all this. I'm thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying talking to you too, and I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>am hoping that talking about this stuff is because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm thinking about like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read the chat letter too, and I hope the

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<v Speaker 2>chats be supportive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking about like I hope, I hope, but

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you talking about this is helpful for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I feel a lot better actually, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of came into this just I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 2>would kind of like still every being I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is way more beans, but those are in

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<v Speaker 2>the closet for now. I guess in the pantry, what

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<v Speaker 2>is your.

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<v Speaker 1>Dream in life?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What what's your ideal future looking like?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, honestly, it's kind of simple. My dream at the

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.520
<v Speaker 2>moment is I would you know, I live in a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty dense city right now, and I don't like that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not a huge fan of living in

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<v Speaker 2>THI cities. I like them. I love them. The other day,

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<v Speaker 2>I was having lunch with my goal friends and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let's go to a park. And I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up Google Maps and I just kind of noticed, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no green around here. I was, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking around for the green areas you can see

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<v Speaker 2>on the maps, you know, And I just I think

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<v Speaker 2>I want to list somewhere in the country side somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of live the life away from society

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, and just kind of visit society

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<v Speaker 2>when I when I need. I'd like to visit Japan too,

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I list to. We were going to go,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to go. Actually I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>go during COVID, but they shut it down, so I

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<v Speaker 2>spent all my favoring on drugs like a fool. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you anti? Are you? Are you anti living around

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<v Speaker 1>other people? Do not like being in a place where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a high volume of other folks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I guess you could say anti, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like something I like the Spies. But the other

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<v Speaker 2>day I gave a buddy a ride for where he

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<v Speaker 2>lives out which is in the countryside, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a forty five minute drive out from where I live,

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<v Speaker 2>and I stayed over there for the night and I

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed that, Like just I saw some foxes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on the way there, like just saw a deer, like

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw like just wildlife, and it felt cooler, like

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<v Speaker 2>the nighttime felt a lot cooler than it does where

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<v Speaker 2>I live. I know it's simple stuff, but I really

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<v Speaker 2>did notice it. And I don't know. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Yeah, I think I would like to. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I am anti city right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like living out of the way

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<v Speaker 1>would be helpful for this kind of drug seeking behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably yeah, because I don't you know, it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out here just chatting up every neighbor I have, Hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you do drugs? Like I'm not doing that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it probably would because you know, I can

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<v Speaker 2>get into other things that aren't just stuck within my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the confines of my wall, you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>walls mm hm mm hmm. Yeah. But I've gotten into

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<v Speaker 2>anime and stuff recently too, thanks to my girlfriend. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's been helpful. You know, just got a Facebook message.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope that's not somebody I was about to say you

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you get a notification. It's not for one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not that. I'm gonna I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>it on me right now. Sorry about that. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for this. I'm sorry if I have made this

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<v Speaker 2>a very awkward uh kind of peace for you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you haven't made the awkward at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm sure you had a stranger, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, No, I'm thinking about I guess, I'm I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about I'm I'm I just I don't know. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that it's helpful for you to No, definitely, I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather you be talking to a gecko on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>about all this than you know, uh, feverishly browsing the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook market place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I'm not. Yeah, just my my

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.680
<v Speaker 2>entire attention is actually on this, and you know what

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I speak. I'm gonna, I'm on the computer now. Actually

0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to you through my Google voice. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to just go ahead and walk people to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>alleviate that from you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't work at the drink like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, hold on, I gotta know that. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>know this stuff. These guys like do they do they

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<v Speaker 1>post like are they posting like drug dealer means like

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<v Speaker 1>that where it's like spunel up with like a grill

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got math and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's something like that. It's honestly, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>your real It's people that you would expect, so I

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<v Speaker 2>have to I've noticed when I got into this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's people that you really don't It's nothing like there's

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.200
<v Speaker 2>no stereotypes. Really, it's like the guy stayed with you know,

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 2>he's a hardworking guy. You know, works six hour shifts

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and I mean six hour days. Sorry, I'm nervous talking

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.520
<v Speaker 2>about people. I don't want to mention any names of accident.

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 2>It's people that you know that are just everyday people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like middle class, you know, lower class, some

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 2>even I've met a few higher class people. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely the people you meet doing this stuff is not

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 2>what you would expect like out of the movies or anything.

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.719
<v Speaker 2>And there's not like rotting teeth. I think that might

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.479
<v Speaker 2>be a late stage thing for people who just kind

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 2>of like let it all go and I have to see,

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I have met people like that, and there's people you

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>can spot from them all the way. But most of

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the people I met around my age in the thirties

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and deadly enough even in the early twenties,

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>they're just people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let me ask you this, and this might

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<v Speaker 1>be a can of worms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'm not son like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'm curious about your perspective on this, because,

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just got back from Australia and a

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of people there were talking to me about, you know,

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>various areas having having meth problems. And then of course

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in the States, you know, in California there's there's a

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>very big myth and fentanyl problem. And again I'm dumb

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>as ship. I'm a fourteen year old boy in a

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>gecko costume. But there's a lot of I guess, there's

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like what the fuck? And I'm I

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>don't ever talk about like political things on here, but

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm always there is kind of a thing of like

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<v Speaker 1>what what what's the solution overall to help cure this problem?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm curious if you have thoughts on that. As

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's who's been there.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say I do think that that NOLLA is

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 2>a huge problem right now. And this is coming from

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a nobody who lives in the southern United States. So

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<v Speaker 2>in just in the past two years, I have lost

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>my stepfather to fitt and all, and I've lost one

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:33.120
<v Speaker 2>of my actually yeah, one of my best friends two

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>years ago to that same thing. And I have my

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>best friend's wife passed away from it. I have lost

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 2>just not you know, I've lost three people I know

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 2>personally just in the past couple of years. And I

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 2>have lost people I know have lost more in the

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>connected kind of circle, you know. And it's always a

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 2>different kind of scenario. For example, with my my stepfather,

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:59.159
<v Speaker 2>he was a marine uh in you know, in Afghanistan

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 2>and I rag back and nineties nineties whatever that that

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>happened the nineties and early two thousands, and when he

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.479
<v Speaker 2>got injured in the war and he got on pay

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>medication as a disabled veteran, and you know, he got

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>hoo's on payments opioids and it grew from there. And

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was actually one of the first actually

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the first person who noticed what was wrong with me

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>when I was kind of avoidant and coming around occasionally.

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>He held me a lot, and it really sucks that

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>he's gone, honestly, and I'm kind of pissed off at

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 2>him sometimes that he even got on that. I don't

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 2>really know the situation on how he got to that,

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know, in his opioids, man, it's the crisis.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>And as for how I got onto it, it was

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 2>basically the exting kind of road, you know, just hydros

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and what you know. It just kind of grows from there.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.479
<v Speaker 2>And lately it's you know, you always see fitting all

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>people that will do rug dealers, they'll just kind of like, hey, man,

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I got this in and it's general I don't you know.

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Nine times out of ten they'll try to offer that

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to you. I've kind of I do not mess with

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>that anymore, though, I will say I I'd like to

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 2>have kicked that. I've even been in it. I've been

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>in front of it a few times now after I've

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>gotten sober, and I refuse, you know, just based on

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 2>the losses I've had over it.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know, and by the way, man, I'm sorry

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to hear about your how about your stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Father? Yeah, therapy helped me with that. One man he's in.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to believe it's a better place. I don't

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>not a religious guy, but he's not suffering, you know.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So again but like, you know, back back back to

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the original question, like do you do you have thoughts

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>on like what what the general solution could be to

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:47.360
<v Speaker 1>these problems?

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it might hold down to it might hold

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 2>on the mental health right now, like and just I

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, you know, I have thought about it,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>and not in the like kill your local fit and

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>dealer kind of way, just in like an actual, like

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>grand scheme of things. One of my best friends is

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>actually on it right now. And you know, I've already

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>lost another best friend and it's I don't know, like

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it's I had talked to him, I've poured my heart out,

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the family people his family and people

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>in his life, I've done the same thing. And it's

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>not like they're ignoring that. It's not you know, a

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are like, well, they don't care what

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>they do care, But it's just there is a sense

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 2>of hopelessness going on with a lot of people who

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>were kind of poor right now. You know, I don't

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 2>know if that makes any sense, but they're the sense

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>of hopefulness right now, hopelessness for a lot of people

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:52.360
<v Speaker 2>right now. And I really think that there there needs

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to be In my case, I wish I could go

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and get help right now. But the help I can

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>get right now is very cheaply, very cheap. It's very like.

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, yeah, you were talking to you were

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about that.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like getting a free trial

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and then all right, all right, so they want to

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>give me some medication. Okay, I can't afford that medication.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I need to pay my gas, pay my rent, you know,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and and I know, and the lucky I'm lucky because

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I do have a plan to get out of the

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>situation I'm in. But I do know of a lot

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of people who don't have a way out of that.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, you get a drug charge, who's going

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>to really hire you? You know, you you get in

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>a altercation, or you know, you steal something, you know

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>people are going to see that, so it kind of

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 2>creates a bad situation. And do you have any ideas?

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious about you too.

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, med I'm so like, I have, no I have.

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 2>It's complex, man, Yeah, it's I I'm not.

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to likes. I'm not if if you

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>took one look at me, you'd be like, I don't

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>know if this I don't know if this guy is

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy to solve the fentanyl crisis in America.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a bad one.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't have no idea. I have no idea.

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a complicated issue. Are I'm not. I'm not even

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>going to I'm not even going to.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I was curious about your thoughts as somebody who's been

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>there and is close to the situation. Well, I'm not

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>even going to try to come up with an opinion

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>on that.

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fine, And I will say this. I do notice,

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>like just based on people I know and going with

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>them to their treatments and stuff. Maybe it's the money thing.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the people who are hired to treat these issues

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>aren't paid enough because there is a it might be

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a des these senses, desensitized thing like maybe sorry, I

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>can't say it right, but some people might be desnthesized

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to that ordeal. You know, like the people in charge

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>of treatment, like the nurses or you know, things like that,

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>they don't seem to care because obviously they they might

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>expect to be that same person. Again, I don't know.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It probably depends by state too, you.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Know, like, what's your what's your name again? Give me

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you give me a fake one so I call you something.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go with Ace. Ace got that from

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>One Piece. Actually, I've been watching that one lately.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for I just want to say thanks for talking

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to me about all this stuff. Yea again, I hope

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this conversation was was helpful for you. I hope it's

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>helpful for the people listening to like have an idea

0:29:54.680 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>of what dealing with a situation like this is. Like, I, yeah,

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I found the thing that you were talking about about

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>how there is no stereotypical dealer. I thought that was

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>very interesting.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's or user.

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm very I'm I'm I'm proud of you, happy

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.719
<v Speaker 1>that your your life seems to be on an upswing,

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>going to school, getting nice girl friends. Are you are you?

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you this before we go, and you can

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>be honest with me. Are you optimistic about the direction

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that your life is going these days?

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm glancing at chat now after the conversation. Yeah,

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling a little bit better. Man a lot better. Actually, yeah,

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I kind of came into it just kind of like

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>in the throws, and I feel like I'm kind of

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>like just kind of yeah, I feel a lot better. Dude,

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I meant, I meant like on a I

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>met like on a macro. Not even I'm not even

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about this conversation. I'm just talking about in a

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>in a general macro sense. You are you optimistic about

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>where life is heading?

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's for me. Yeah. You know, you've got the

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>whole alien thing going on right now in America, so

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of exciting. So we hope it's not a distraction.

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm feeling a lot better, like compared to

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>me last year of the year before, or especially three

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>years before. I am. I am. I'm very positive.

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Actually awesome, Ace Ace, Ace, Ace, go out of delete.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, go ahead and delete Facebook entirely. What

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the fuck do you need it for? And or do

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you play? I can't think of a good reason to

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>be on Facebook at all.

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's it's successful. You're You're completely right. You

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>know what? On this stream, I'm going to delete my

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Facebook actively really good. Yeah, I'm doing it right now, like.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And they make it hard too, They like make you

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have to click a whole bunch of boxes and confirm

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>your phone number and all that. Ship. Yeah, delete facing book,

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>go look at trees.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Go. I need tech support people, because what I can go?

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that is now nowhere to go?

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh just typeing delete in the handlemar.

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>No, it's really county. They make it hard, they do.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, I promise you tonight it's just rapter this call.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen. You know. I'll give you my word

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>on that. I will not be findable. So if you

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>look at Facebook Chat, you're not going to find me.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be gone.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, were well, okay, we'll cut that out. Well, thank

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you will beep it up. Ace man, Thank you again

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 1>for talking to me about this. I'm glad to hear

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the life is going better. Is there anything else that

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to Yeah, about anything ever at all?

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Just life ever before we go, just.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whoever's listening, just stay positive the best way you can.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>And if it takes reaching out to a get go

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>on the internet, uh, just do that. It's better than

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the alternatives and whatever that whatever's going on in terms

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 2>of a case.

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Like mine, I'll go I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'll go

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ahead and say, I think you should talk to a

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>real therapist about this.

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>No, man, but I definitely talking to a real therapist.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Didn't talk to a counselor. I was being funny, but yeah, definitely.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:28.959
<v Speaker 2>If you have resources or have people who can help

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>you get resources, please do that because it will make

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a difference. And as as sad as it is, I

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 2>guess a little help better than no help.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, Hey, thank you.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>YouTube.

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting talking to Ace. Fuck, dude, I don't know.

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a This is not a podcast where I

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>pretend to know how to fix. This is not a

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>podcast I pretend to know how to fix anyone's issues,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>let alone a giant, systematic one. But it was cool

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>talking to Ace. I don't, I don't, I don't, I

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I like hearing a I like hearing about

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a good upward trajectory. I like stories like that. I

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like stories of people turning their lives around, right because

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been there before. Not with like you know,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>hardcore drugs or anything like that. But I think a

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>lot I think a lot of people can relate to

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>this idea of having been at one point or another

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in a time where your brain was just convinced that

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you were done and there was no perspective. Your brain

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>was just like, you're done, your life is fucked up,

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>You're hopelessly that's what he was talking about. He was

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about a lack of hope. You mentioned that. He said,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a lack of of of hope. I think there's I

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing that a lot of people can

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>can relate to. And you have enough of those over

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the course of your life, you realize that your your

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>brain is playing some tricks on you, and so I

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of a great amount of respect

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for people who can who have lived lives where they've

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>been at that point several periods of time and yet

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>found a way to prevail past it and have good

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>relationships and careers and you know, dopamine things. I should

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>have asked him the games he was playing. I wish

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I had something funny to say. I don't have anything

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>funny to say. I'm I'm always an I'm like after

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a heavy thing. I should say something funny. I don't

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>always have something funny to say, can we put a

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:18.720
<v Speaker 1>like some cartoon wiley coyote noises over over me saying

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>this right now like.

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>A like a you know that.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You don't actually you don't actually have to do that,

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>but if you're listening, if you don't, you don't have

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to actually do that. But if you're listening, just imagine

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that they were there. Thanks for calling Ace.

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 3>All from Kelly.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, what's up Kelly? How you doing?

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm great? How are you?

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, I'm feeling pretty good. I I've noticed, I've

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:54.959
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this before, but I've noticed I feel

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot better when I'm present. And that's that's that's

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>my happiness barometer. Am I actually present in what I'm doing?

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 3>And am I actually talking to Lyle?

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I feel very present right now. I feel present

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>to talking to you, so right. No, yeah, you don't

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>have any You've done nothing as far as I'm concerned

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to a podist for what's what's up?

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Kelly?

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I am also present. I am here. I was actually

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 3>getting ready for bed and I saw you were streaming

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, holy shit, you know, I might

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>as well try.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>To get in bang bang have we ever spoken before?

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 3>No, we haven't, but I've been listening to you to

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 3>the podcast. I'm a mail carrier, so im walking all

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>day by myself, you know, doing the devil's work, delivering

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 3>bills and shit. So and I just listened to you.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>How long have you been doing that?

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>For? Ten years?

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Years?

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 2>God?

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's yeah, long time.

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it is a long time. It isn't It

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel that long, but yeah, it's been a fucking minute.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Man, tell us the ins and outs of the mail.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. You know what, I'm going to tell

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 3>you something that happened to me today. So I'm at

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm at one of my boxes, and I'm I drive

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 3>a mail truck or a mail van. Actually it's like

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>a really big it's called a pro Master. It has

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 3>the uh United Day's Postal Service stickers and emblems all

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 3>over it. I'm in a full uniform. This guy drives

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 3>up to me and he's like, you're a mail carrier.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 3>I said, huh. He said, do you deliver the mail?

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like yes, and I kind of laughed. He

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 3>was dead serious. I thought he was joking. And I

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 3>get this shit all the time. He's like, well, I'm

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 3>just I'm trying to deliver this whatever he's trying to deliver.

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, yeah, I'm a male carrier, like I

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 3>can take whatever outgoing mail you want. And he's like, okay,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't know. I'm like, obviously I'm delivering mail.

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Like what do I look like? I just out here

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 3>for fun?

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>So he wasn't sure that you whether or not you

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>were a male carrier.

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess not. I thought he was joking.

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Was he How old was he?

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 3>He was probably older, like sixties, seventies.

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, Okay. You know, you know, this kind of reminds

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>me of of of a thing that I think about

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I may I don't know if this

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>is a good I don't know if this is a

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>good analogy, and you tell me if it's not.

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 3>But okay, okay, right heah uh.

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Some times I'll call a store and they'll pick up

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say, are you guys open? Okay? You know what?

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>You know where I'm getting at? And I'll say are

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys open? And they'll they'll respond like I'm the

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>biggest fucking idiot they've ever met, because yeah, of course

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>they're open. That's what they always say. They're like yeah,

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>because they answered, but A, I'm just confirming and B

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like what am I supposed to do? Just hang

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>up immediately, right?

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 3>No, that is very true.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So this guy, he just wanted to confirm that you

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 1>were a male.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just just like it. And I even

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 3>repeated it to him to see if like he understood.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 3>How like kind of dumb he sounded, asking me if

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I was a male person with I had mail in

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>my hand, I had a uniform on. I just walk

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 3>out of my mail truck and he was like, are

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 3>you a male carrier?

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, what, okay, So tell me what's the

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>what's the worst part of delivering mail?

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh? The worst part hm hmm, Well, I would have

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>to I would have to say, definitely doing it in

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:24.479
<v Speaker 3>the winter time. I'm in Ohio, so I have winter.

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I have no I can deal with the cold, the snow.

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Not a fan of I love the summer. I love

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>the heat. H but snow yeah, not a fan. And

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 3>then obviously the dumb questions of if I have a

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 3>male carrier, now do you do you?

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it true that you have to run away from

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>dogs and stuff?

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.760
<v Speaker 3>That is very, very true. I've had to definitely spray

0:41:54.880 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 3>some dogs from time to time, but it's also like

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 3>sad just spray dogs because.

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I love dogs, you've had to spray them?

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because we carry dog spray.

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>What is dog spray? I've never heard of that.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like pepper spray, but it's for dogs.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm not sure if there's much of a difference,

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 3>but we call it dogspray, and it's.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you're pepper spraying dogs.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So like if a dog, if there's such a

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 3>loose dog and it's like approaching you, you know, aggressively,

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, barking, you know, foaming at the mouth, and

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 3>you feel in danger. We have the spray that you're

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 3>supposed to carry on you and you can just spray

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 3>them and it's supposed to, you know, deter them from

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>biting you and attacking you.

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>How many in your tenure career, how many dogs have

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you pepper sprayed?

0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Only?

0:42:58.440 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Like only three?

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>But I can think of okay, you know that's pretty good.

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean what has like what okay, how far does

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the situation have to escalate before you I.

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Can't think of one that's come come to my mind

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>is when i'm you know, like uh, when like a carrier,

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, you're walking through people's yards. And there was

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 3>when I was on this one specific route I had,

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 3>uh this dog actually happened to jump the fence and

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 3>it was after I'd already passed its house, but it

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 3>was coming right at me and i'd have you know,

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 3>it's barking, and I just happened to turn around and

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I had enough time to actually get my spray out

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 3>because it was actually biting my bag, my my, you know,

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 3>postal bag, and so I had time to spray it

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>and then it you know, kind of whimpered away and

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 3>went back to you know, its house or yard or whatnot.

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's just kind of what happens. I mean,

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>it is effective.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Do the owners get mad at you for spraying the dogs?

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 3>So I guess it's really like it depends on who

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it is doing the spraying. So I so I actually

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 3>the next day went up to those people's house and

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 3>knocked on their door and kind of let them know

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>the situation and was kind of like, you know, I'm

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 3>sorry I had to spray your dog, but this is

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>what you know he did blah blah blah. And actually

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 3>that particular time, they tried blaming it on me and

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 3>saying that I walked up to their dogs, which was

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, a blatant lie. But you know, you just

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.959
<v Speaker 3>you just try to, you know, be the best person

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 3>you can and tell the truth. But sometimes people just

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>don't like to hear the truth. They think they're you're

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 3>all fine and dandy.

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>What about the other two times?

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>So one of the other times was I was kind

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 3>of in a more rougher neighborhood and this was kind

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 3>of like.

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess what I would call a rope a rogue.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Dog, and it had no owner, and it was just

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 3>walking the streets kind of you know, while as I

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 3>was delivering mail, and it just got too close to me.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And I was actually fairly new at that time. That

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 3>was kind of at the beginning of my coastal career,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 3>and I just was really really nervous and it got

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>too close and it was barking and it was a

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 3>bigger dog, and I just, you know, how to do

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 3>what I had to do.

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Now, Okay, So you know how like like if you're

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like a police officer, you have to like get pepper

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>sprayed yeah, do you have to get pepper sprayed?

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, No, that would be hilarious though, because

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of people that I would love to

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 3>see that happen too, you'd like to work with?

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Why? Why?

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Why are there people you work with that you want

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to see get pepper spray?

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Because I work with some crazy people, idiot people. I

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know if the postal service is wild?

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you know that makes What is it that

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>makes these people crazy?

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's just like their personalities and their

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>way of thinking. Maybe it's just because there's such a uh.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's people that still are at the post

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 3>office that are like eighty years old that haven't retired yet,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and I'm thirty, and then there's as young as eighteen

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 3>years old, So there's so many like age gaps and

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>so such a crazy.

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Would you say that they like? Well, what what exactly?

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Like, do you have any examples of things that people

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>have said or done that you you feel is uh

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>makes you want to pepper spray them?

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I can't think of like a specific situation, but it's

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 3>just more of like a uh, It's just like something

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 3>that happens like day to day, like it's just like

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 3>a random you know, someone says something just completely idiotic,

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 3>like the like the person I dealt with today asking

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>me for I'm a mail carrier.

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Just like that.

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know if I don't know if

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that guy, I don't know. If I agree with you

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 1>about that guy deserving to give pepper sprayed, I have

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>to I'll draw my personal line there.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I guess that just happened too many times to me

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 3>where I'm just like, really.

0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Now, Kelly, do you do you you personally? Do you

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>think you'll be in the uh in the force for

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean this guy who's eighty right and he's been

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 1>doing it probably since he was twenty. What do you

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>do you see yourself winding up like that dude? Or

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>do you have something else you want?

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I can I definitely can see myself maybe holding out

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>that long. But it's actually, uh kind of funny. I

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 3>was literally just talking to my mom about getting into

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 3>the dog grooming business.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh here, you're trying to You're definitely trying to make

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>up for a few sprayed dogs.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 3>I p't here, I guess so maybe yeah, I told

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 3>you I feel bad when you spray a dog you

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 3>feel so bad. I mean, I'm a dog owner. I

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>would never want my dog to be sprayed, but I

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 3>do understand that, you know, there are times where it

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 3>just happens.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, well, Kelly, I think about it like that.

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>But no, I am.

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of how many shampooed dogs equate

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to like erase, like, Okay, so if you sprayed three dogs,

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you probably have to shampoo at least twenty make for

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the spray do I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say twenty

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>shampooed dogs is worth three pepper sprayed dogs. And I don't.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm that just came up with that on the fly.

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That's open to interpretation. I'm open to hearing alternative viewpoints

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 1>on that, but that's just what I came up with.

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 3>So I think, I think twenty is a good number.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 3>But tonight, like, is my dog? Is she included in

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 3>that number?

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and say no, unless if you

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>pepper sprays her.

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I've never pepper swayed my dog. I could never.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Kelly, is there anything else you want to say to

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go?

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say today might be a bad day,

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 3>but tomorrow as a new one, so just look forward

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 3>to tomorrow. Have a good night, Kelly, you also thank you.

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, though, and people always say that. People

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>say that a lot. They say today is maybe a

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.439
<v Speaker 1>bad day, but tomorrow is a new one. But here's

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Tomorrow could all Tomorrow could also be bad.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow could tomorrow. Tomorrow could be worse, Tomorrow could be

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 1>worse but then the day after that could be even

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>worse than tomorrow. Two days from now could be double

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>as bad as today, but then the day after it

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>could be like a little bit better. Then the day

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>after that even worse than two days before that day,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and then the day after that is Sunday. I lost

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 1>track of days. Watch watch out for your dogs if

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>they go near the male people.

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Paul from Kylie, Hello, why is this the therapy?

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Who is this?

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 4>This is Kylie?

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I was Kylie asked if you were going to come

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to Richmond earlier.

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, dude, I don't know. I don't know when,

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm coming in September.

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 4>September.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.479
<v Speaker 3>That'll be awesome. You go to twenty one enough clubs,

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 3>don't you though? Uh?

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, Well I actually haven't. I have no idea.

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think I want to I want to

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>say I want to say yes, I want to say

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty one or not.

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, then i'll see you in like three years.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm eighteen?

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, I am no, I I get you. Man,

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>When I was fucking eighteen nineteen twenty, there were all

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 1>kinds of shows I wanted to go to that I

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>could not go to because I was a little boy. Well, anyway,

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>we're on the phone right now, Kylie's what's up with you?

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about?

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 4>Kind of I wanted to talk to you about my

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 4>looming problem of giving myself too much to do and

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 4>never feeling like I'm being productive enough.

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are you giving yourself so much to do?

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm becoming a sophomore in college in a couple

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 4>of weeks, and I took on like four jobs on campus,

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 4>and I'm also a STEM major. So I'm kind of

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 4>freaking out because I had to go back to college

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 4>in two weeks and then I will lose all my

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 4>social life after that.

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I don't I don't have any advice

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>for you. When I was in college, I was a

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:20.400
<v Speaker 1>film major and my roommate was a by some he

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was a biology major, and so he hated me because

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I had nothing to do ever because I was studying

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a not real thing and he had everything to do

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:38.399
<v Speaker 1>always because he was studying a real thing. I don't

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I have no. I get well because when I when

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I was in college, I tried really hard to not

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>have to do anything, to avoid specifically the issue that

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you have.

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I get that.

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 4>See my parents they always warn me because my dad

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 4>he was like that, he went to college and kind

0:53:59.920 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 4>of have fun, and then he always tells me, oh,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 4>you better be very serious in college. You better work

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 4>hard and do all this stuff, so you can not

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 4>work hardon older.

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>What I mean what so you're what what stem thing

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>are you in?

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Something microbiology or chemistry. I'm just trying to figure it out.

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that sounds that sounds that sounds awful.

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:28.959
<v Speaker 4>It's really it's really bad.

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a bummer. Is that sounds so awful?

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But I know that someone has to do it. I

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know why. I couldn't explain why chemistry is important,

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but like I know it is obviously right.

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, it's it's very important. Honestly, I don't

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.919
<v Speaker 4>know what I would do. I'm just trying to learn

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 4>it right now, but I'd love to be involved with it.

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 4>It's very cool.

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have like a vision for the future of

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a thing you want to do?

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I kind of wanted to go into what are treatment analysis.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Across the world?

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You know that sounds important?

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Good time?

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 4>Good time?

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>So what are these things that you're doing outside of

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>just the school that is given?

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not going to say the college that I

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 4>go to, but it's a really small one here in Virginia.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And I.

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Became part of you know you ever like heard about

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 4>the student assemblies that are at colleges and on campuses

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 4>and stuff.

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I got involved in the events.

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I got involved in one last year and

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.800
<v Speaker 4>then I decided to do it again this year. So

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 4>now I'm the vice president of that, which means I'm

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 4>going to run all the events on campus trying to

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 4>get things going on student engagement. And then I also

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 4>became the I started a club because I was bored.

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 4>It's a it's a journalism club where we write about

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 4>this stuff going on. So I gotta lead that. And

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 4>then I also, stupid me, decided to apply for this

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 4>position in the Board of Visitors of the campus, which

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 4>I would be the student representative of that, and I

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 4>have to work with the president of the college and

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 4>then the other college that works with us. And then

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I also became a residential assistant for the dormitories, so I.

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Have to work in Jesus Christ.

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know it's a it's a problem.

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Well no, well, okay, I'm out of all those Out

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of all those things, do you do you have a genuine,

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.760
<v Speaker 1>actual desire? Which ones do you have a real genuine

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>passion and desire to do versus like just doing them

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 1>because you signed up?

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean the R one I really wanted to do

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 4>because they give you free room and board, so I

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 4>would get out of the house, which sounds really nice.

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 4>There to visitors one's really nice because I get to

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 4>meet a lot of the higher ups to the colleges

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 4>and meet some really cool, amazing people. I get to

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 4>talk to representatives in Virginia and people on boards and

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 4>committees and okay, yeah, those two are probably the most important.

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the journal is something do you do? You were

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you is that something you were just doing because you

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>were bored or something you actively still enjoy Uh?

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 4>I say, I think I still enjoy it. Another thing

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 4>with it is I started working with the communications boards

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 4>leader guy, this doucebag, and he was he told me

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 4>he was gonna make me one of his interns and

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 4>if I just led the club, he would say me

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 4>like two hundred dollars a week just to lead the

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 4>club and write the news letter form. So I'd say,

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 4>that's very important of my food.

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And what was the first thing? Some the student events thing?

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, the.

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 4>The vice president of the student Assembly or whatever.

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and say that because you forgot

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>about that one. It's the least important to you.

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, alright, No, I kind of did that one of

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 3>the fight, all right, didn't.

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Want the other personal one, all right, so you could

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 1>ditch that?

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no for sure.

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>All right. So all right, so we're down one. Kind.

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually really I'm I'm I'm actually pretty fucking terrible

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>with advice, but I'm thinking about this as I'm talking

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to you. All Right, ditch the one that you don't

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>have a good explanation for, and then every single one

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of the other ones. In the times in which you're

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>stressing out, I would say, remember the reasons that you

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.920
<v Speaker 1>just gave as to why you're in all of those things,

0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully those reasons, if not dispelling your stress, well

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>at least make it feel as though your stress is

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>worth something.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 4>That's amazing.

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was really worried.

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I've been worrying about it all summer, trying to figure

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 4>out how I'm gonna deal with all of it. Because

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, I've grown up and as it taught that

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 4>you you never work en up. So even though I'm

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 4>doing all these things, I still feel like I'm not

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 4>working as hard as I should be.

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying okay, But but when you say it's

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>hard with but the word should okay. See you see

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing you I'm I have the lost track

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of all the things that you're doing, but you gave

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>me at least at least three of them. I think

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you gave me like well thought out reasons as to

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 1>why you're doing them that are more significant than I

0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>should this vague nonsense thing that doesn't really make that

1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:07.840
<v Speaker 1>comes from nowhere and it's nothing that whole I should

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 1>think so next time you feel like you're stressed out

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 1>or like you should be doing something forget about the

1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>should and think about the actual reasons behind the things

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing and let those guide to your behavior

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>instead of the should. Because it's good. It's good that

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this, because do you have you have

1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:30.720
<v Speaker 1>actual reasons that you gave me. You said that you

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>can meet this person, you do this thing because you

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like this, This gives you free this so you can

1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:40.720
<v Speaker 1>save money to do this. Those are all actual, tangible,

1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:43.480
<v Speaker 1>good reasons. Then the then the one that you thought

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.800
<v Speaker 1>about where it was like another reasons for spite. That's

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a terrible reason. You get rid of that one. And

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>then and then these these actual you've actual things to

1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:56.000
<v Speaker 1>guide you further. That makes sense.

1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does makes sense.

1:00:58.560 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Good good. I'm glad that made sense because a lot

1:01:03.200 --> 1:01:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of the times I don't really know what I'm doing.

1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Why am I doing this? Okay now, okay, this now

1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 1>is my turn.

1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:12.600
<v Speaker 4>You're helping out people, don't worry about.

1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It, I hope. So I'm why do I do this?

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I could sell T shirts.

1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I have gone out and met so many people

1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 4>That's something I've always wanted to do, is to meet

1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:30.000
<v Speaker 4>tons of people and learn tons of things, but have the.

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Guts to do it.

1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 1>You'll get to I think you'll get to do that. Well, actually,

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because you're studying a real you're going

1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:42.960
<v Speaker 1>into like chemistry. Mm hmm, I don't know. I don't

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 1>know anything about that. I don't know if you can

1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>meet people doing chemistry.

1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, you guys do a lot of things with that,

1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 4>you know. And there are some microbiologists that work with

1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.720
<v Speaker 4>the delegate and people in the house and do all

1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 4>types work with them. So science is everywhere. And then

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 4>climate change. My chemistry professor, she's an active studying that

1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 4>and teaches a course on it. That could be important.

1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I've said this on the podcast like ten times, but

1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I always feel like with climate change, you know, I

1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but I'm I'm ready.

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:24.040
<v Speaker 3>No, I feel the exact same way. Oh my god.

1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:27.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, you know, it's a natural process of the

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.760
<v Speaker 4>way the world works. By the way, buyers are completely normal.

1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:34.240
<v Speaker 4>The world goes through cycles, and you know, we're just

1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:39.120
<v Speaker 4>an organism, human race. We're just an organism, plain and simple.

1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:42.400
<v Speaker 4>And if we're not benefiting the Earth's or it's just

1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:44.880
<v Speaker 4>going to get rid of us, and that's fine because

1:02:44.920 --> 1:02:47.440
<v Speaker 4>we're not doing a good job. I'll say that much.

1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to make sure to smoke a ton

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of weed and eat a lot of McDonald's before we're

1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.440
<v Speaker 1>all dead. Kylie, is there anything else you want to

1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 1>say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think I think I said too much already.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck Carly, uh, God bless you and Jesus Christ to.

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<v Speaker 3>M by, good night bye.

1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Never beacon goes on the line making your phone calls

1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:21.800
<v Speaker 1>every night, thecon goes to unside. Was teaching you about

1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:23.520
<v Speaker 1>your life blood?

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<v Speaker 3>He's not friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>An expert