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Speaker 2: Hello, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 2: This is what's up? Just struggling with sobriety?
Speaker 1: I guess struggling with sobriety?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how old are you?
Speaker 2: I am twenty seven.
Speaker 1: What what sobriety? What kind of sobriety?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, it was originally a opioid kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and then it evolved to a myth. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can say that on stream.
Speaker 1: Very sorry if I can't, you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Yeah, it was opioid originally. I sent
Speaker 2: it and I kind of beat that and it turned
Speaker 2: into speed and I'm about a year sober from everything now,
Speaker 2: and I guess I'm just kind of mentally hitting rock bottom,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of engaging in drug seeking behavior. I
Speaker 2: lost my insurance and I don't have any, but I
Speaker 2: did to talk to so here, I am. Do you.
Speaker 1: When you were getting clean off of the drugs, did
Speaker 1: you have a counselor anybody who was helping you or
Speaker 1: was it just a sheer force of.
Speaker 2: Well, at first, with Defend, I definitely went through a program,
Speaker 2: and after the program, I got a job at providing
Speaker 2: the insurance and I used the insurance from that to
Speaker 2: kind of continue to get counseling and stuff. But then
Speaker 2: I met some people I probably shouldn't have and I
Speaker 2: discovered Speed and it, you know, I kind of used
Speaker 2: speed as a crutch saying I can get off that.
Speaker 2: You know, and I kind of had a weird relationship
Speaker 2: for like four years, swapping between the two of those.
Speaker 2: It's been pretty pretty crappy.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to tell you this. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you know about me or my show, but
Speaker 1: I'm not I've.
Speaker 2: Seen the YouTube videos and yeah, you know you're not a.
Speaker 1: I'm not a real therapist. I'm a I'm a I
Speaker 1: am a little I am a fourteen year old boy
Speaker 1: in a gecko costume. Yeah, no, if you I and
Speaker 1: I was. If you if if you accept that and
Speaker 1: understand that, well, I'm happy to talk to you about stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm just here to talk. Man. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna like relap. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I engaged in drugs behavior and then your notification popped
Speaker 2: up on my phone. Screw it. I'm gonna give it
Speaker 2: to the call. And I watched here and there, so
Speaker 2: here I am.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how long, I mean, how long have you was?
Speaker 1: So you you're a year or sober from everything? You're
Speaker 1: not on You're not doing.
Speaker 2: Anything, no nothing, now like maybe you know sweed here
Speaker 2: and there, but I don't really count that. I think
Speaker 2: that might help me more than anything. But yeah, about
Speaker 2: a year in some months now, probably a year in
Speaker 2: three months to be exact. That's of July of last year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when you were kicking your addiction, what was
Speaker 1: the most helpful thing for you?
Speaker 2: Honestly? Honestly, Uh, it was, Uh it's weird, but YouTube
Speaker 2: uh and and you know, just just gunplog got into
Speaker 2: like Gundam and stuff like that, like weird stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and you know, I found new things to focus myself on.
Speaker 2: And you know, so I'm building a little robots and
Speaker 2: it was pretty fun, but that's kind of lost its
Speaker 2: luster now. And uh, like I said, I I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a high school drop I didn't say this, but
Speaker 2: I'm a hospital drop out. I'm currently getting my education again,
Speaker 2: So go me on that. But I think that might
Speaker 2: be part of the reason why I'm kind of stressed
Speaker 2: out a lot lately.
Speaker 1: So you're starting, you're starting to get your education again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want the online Yeah, I found
Speaker 2: an online high school and it's it was fifteen hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's not a ged it's an hospital, Obama,
Speaker 2: so I can actually learn some things that I needed
Speaker 2: that I didn't back in high school before I dropped out.
Speaker 2: So it's they're good.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your like? Uh? I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: ideal plan. Do you have a job that you want
Speaker 1: to try to do or a career you want to
Speaker 1: try to go into.
Speaker 2: I do, actually, yeah, so well not like a career,
Speaker 2: but right now I have a plan. So my my
Speaker 2: mom and my girlfriend, they both work at a hospital
Speaker 2: and it pays very well, and I have it. I
Speaker 2: pretty much have the job now. I just have to
Speaker 2: get this just diploma out of the way so I
Speaker 2: can actually have, you know, so I can pass the screening,
Speaker 2: you know, because they require diploma or gud. So that's
Speaker 2: my plan right now, and I really want that because
Speaker 2: it'll give me the kind of money I can have
Speaker 2: to not do you know, painting and yard work and
Speaker 2: you know the stressful ship. I don't like, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, you with your you with your parents?
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I I moved out when I was
Speaker 2: like in nineteen and so I've been on my own
Speaker 2: since then. They my mom does help me out a lot,
Speaker 2: but I don't like living at home. I like the freedom.
Speaker 2: So I'm living with the roommate right now. And at
Speaker 2: my last job, I saved up enough money to kind of,
Speaker 2: you know it, situations like this where I lose my
Speaker 2: job and need to figure things out, you know, m
Speaker 2: M yeah, sorry, it's a little it's a whole can
Speaker 2: of beans. Man.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Well so in the past, uh,
Speaker 1: all right, how are you feeling.
Speaker 2: At the moment, like ship? I want? Like I said,
Speaker 2: I was on Facebook earlier trying to I was doing
Speaker 2: I was engaging in drugs and behavior. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I was trying to find something and all, and I
Speaker 2: was trying to find math whatever I can.
Speaker 1: But wait, hold on, I gotta I gotta ask you
Speaker 1: how how how do you find meth on Facebook?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are they just is there just a dude on Facebook
Speaker 1: place with like no man taking pictures of math and post.
Speaker 2: Basically, when you do ship like that, you kind of
Speaker 2: meet a lot of people down the line, and they
Speaker 2: just kind of stick around on that friend's list because
Speaker 2: you forget about them when you're done, and I, you know,
Speaker 2: just remember some of those people and hit them up,
Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought there was like some kind of like
Speaker 1: it was a created thing like.
Speaker 2: Or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like somebody you like, like selling a Renaissance style futon.
Speaker 2: Actually no, no, I think it's people. I probably should
Speaker 2: have like deleted them blocked a long time ago. Honestly
Speaker 2: I didn't, and you know I probably will now that
Speaker 2: I'm actually on this weird Uh, sorry to call your
Speaker 2: stream weird. It's not weird.
Speaker 1: No, it's very No, it's very it's very weird. What
Speaker 1: we're doing. That's very bizarre. It's very bizarre. There's no
Speaker 1: need to hide from that idea. Tell me about I mean,
Speaker 1: unless unless if it's unhelpful for you. If it's unhelpful
Speaker 1: for you, I don't want to do it. But like,
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about the universe of that
Speaker 1: whole thing. Who are these guys? How do you not
Speaker 1: like they're fucking I'm not like the FBI. I don't
Speaker 1: neither names and addresses. But who are these guys? How
Speaker 1: do you know them? Were they friends of yours?
Speaker 2: I can kind of talk about how I even got
Speaker 2: into that kind of life. See, Yeah, that so basically
Speaker 2: I'm twenty seven now. I was living with some roommates
Speaker 2: spec and I was about twenty four to twenty three,
Speaker 2: and I, you know, I was I discovered opiates. That's
Speaker 2: the whole different story. But with the mess life right now.
Speaker 2: I was with some roommates and my one of my
Speaker 2: roommates caught me snorting you know, hydro's off of the
Speaker 2: bathroom sink, and they kicked me out, obviously. And funny enough,
Speaker 2: these are my current roommates now. They forgave me and
Speaker 2: I still I live with them to this day because
Speaker 2: they're some of my best friends. And but before that, yeah,
Speaker 2: they kicked me out and I had nowhere to go.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a you know, a savedan's account at
Speaker 2: the time. So I went to live with a different
Speaker 2: friend of mine who lived in kind of the shadier
Speaker 2: part of town. And and when I got there, uh, yeah, first,
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of figured they were doing something
Speaker 2: could get people over all the time. And they were,
Speaker 2: you know, doing stuff in his room all the time,
Speaker 2: you know, and I kind of walked in on it
Speaker 2: one day and they were like, and you know, I
Speaker 2: saw it. You know, I've seen breaking bad. I knew
Speaker 2: what the hell they were doing. Uh, And I was like,
Speaker 2: can I try it? And they they they literally said
Speaker 2: you don't want any part of this or you don't
Speaker 2: want to do this, and I was like, yeah, I dude,
Speaker 2: that was you know, stupid and therefore that's how I
Speaker 2: got into That's how I got into it basically.
Speaker 1: Mhmm. How many years ago did you say that was?
Speaker 2: Uh? So, I'm twenty seven now, three or four years ago,
Speaker 2: I'd say this.
Speaker 1: Is rough roughly so in the year do you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've talked to any doctor as
Speaker 1: or therapist, but do you know if you did any
Speaker 1: any like permanent damage to your body?
Speaker 2: Probably a little bit. Uh. I didn't smoke it. I
Speaker 2: was always a snorter for most things. But yeah, like
Speaker 2: I like this last year when I kind of got
Speaker 2: off of everything, I have found it hard to find
Speaker 2: open mune and things, and I used to like it.
Speaker 2: It is getting better, though. I will not lie like
Speaker 2: I don't good. I wasn't like you know, and I
Speaker 2: will say this, I didn't do it like every single
Speaker 2: day all the time. I was more of like a
Speaker 2: a weekend warrior or whatever like I would kind of
Speaker 2: it was it was like I guess to say face
Speaker 2: you know, because you know, I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: like so many people on that it's all so you.
Speaker 1: Say, so you say it's getting better in the past year,
Speaker 1: What if any what's been giving you dopamine? Even if
Speaker 1: it's a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, uh video games, uh, alcohol, TV shows. I guess, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, just living life. And I have a girlfriend now.
Speaker 2: I've been with her for a year and been with
Speaker 2: her for a year and almost three months now, and
Speaker 2: she did help me out a lot, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna you know, it wasn't just her like, you know,
Speaker 2: and she knows about my past and stuff. She's at
Speaker 2: work right now, so and I'd also don't want to
Speaker 2: put all that on her either, you know, obviously, because
Speaker 2: that's not her job to you know, consistently take care
Speaker 2: of if I'm wanting to relapse. And most of the
Speaker 2: time I kind of hide that. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: don't have access to insurance right now, so and I
Speaker 2: know I had some local stuff I can go to,
Speaker 2: and I did do that. I went to a local
Speaker 2: clinic that is income based, and honestly, they they don't
Speaker 2: seem to care. I know that's kind of weird, but
Speaker 2: they don't have the same kind of I didn't repeat
Speaker 2: the same kind of care I got when I had insurance,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, how did you meet your girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Met her at work? Actually, I got a job at
Speaker 2: the Mall of all Things after when I was getting
Speaker 2: sober and she was, yeah, was doing what It was
Speaker 2: just a pop culture retail store.
Speaker 1: A pop culture retail store, like one of those like
Speaker 1: like like what do you sell likes and ship like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it was kind of like box lunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool. Did you do a lot of people
Speaker 1: still go to malls, this.
Speaker 2: One in particular, not really. We maybe made two grand
Speaker 2: to day, but during the holidays, yes, during Christmas, Tom
Speaker 2: we got a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Okay, and all right, so things are going good with
Speaker 1: the with the girlfriend. Has she been helpful for you
Speaker 1: during this time?
Speaker 2: Certainly she's She's never judged me or threatened any weird stuff,
Speaker 2: Like every time I've ever mentioned it in the past,
Speaker 2: she's always been buried down for me. And that's been
Speaker 2: an awesome experience because my eggs a whole other Canadians.
Speaker 2: She was actually pretty damn abusive towards me, and to
Speaker 2: the point that where she got arrested for it, which
Speaker 2: I know they don't get that often. Where you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's the you know, the other like normally it's
Speaker 2: the dude's beaten girls. But now she hit me with
Speaker 2: the car, and the neighbors called the tops on her,
Speaker 2: and that was the whole Canadians And she she weaponized
Speaker 2: my addiction too. By anytime we got into a back argument,
Speaker 2: she would just like yes, she would you know, just
Speaker 2: call me an addict or her words, a junkie. I hate.
Speaker 2: I hate being called that because I don't consider myself
Speaker 2: a junkie at all. I've you know, yeah, sorry, man,
Speaker 2: this is new for me. I'm very sorry. What no, what?
Speaker 3: Why do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you feel? Sorry right now?
Speaker 2: Because I'm kind of just filling some beans on people
Speaker 2: that are in my past, and what if they stumble
Speaker 2: upon this some day. I don't want them to just
Speaker 2: like message me I don't know where and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: did you talk to it about me?
Speaker 1: Well let's talk about this.
Speaker 2: Well, well I didn't think about that ship.
Speaker 1: Given we can, we can, we can, we we can,
Speaker 1: we can blur your name, will blur your name?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: How do you, I mean, how do you feel talking
Speaker 1: about all this stuff to me into into people on
Speaker 1: the internet.
Speaker 2: I have adrenaline right now, So that might seem kind
Speaker 2: of weird. It's definitely give me a gentlealine, but it
Speaker 2: kind of feels good to kind of like talk to
Speaker 2: someone I don't know and.
Speaker 1: Just okay, Well, it's interesting because I'm as you're talking
Speaker 1: to me, I'm thinking about all this. I'm thinking about, like,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying talking to you too, and I hope I
Speaker 1: am hoping that talking about this stuff is because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm thinking about like.
Speaker 2: I'll read the chat letter too, and I hope the
Speaker 2: chats be supportive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about like I hope, I hope, but
Speaker 1: I hope that you talking about this is helpful for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I feel a lot better actually, Like I
Speaker 2: kind of came into this just I didn't think I
Speaker 2: would kind of like still every being I had, you know,
Speaker 2: and there is way more beans, but those are in
Speaker 2: the closet for now. I guess in the pantry, what
Speaker 2: is your.
Speaker 1: Dream in life?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What what's your ideal future looking like?
Speaker 2: Uh, honestly, it's kind of simple. My dream at the
Speaker 2: moment is I would you know, I live in a
Speaker 2: pretty dense city right now, and I don't like that
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a huge fan of living in
Speaker 2: THI cities. I like them. I love them. The other day,
Speaker 2: I was having lunch with my goal friends and I
Speaker 2: was like, let's go to a park. And I pulled
Speaker 2: up Google Maps and I just kind of noticed, Wow,
Speaker 2: there's no green around here. I was, you know, I
Speaker 2: was looking around for the green areas you can see
Speaker 2: on the maps, you know, And I just I think
Speaker 2: I want to list somewhere in the country side somewhere
Speaker 2: and just kind of live the life away from society
Speaker 2: for the most part, and just kind of visit society
Speaker 2: when I when I need. I'd like to visit Japan too,
Speaker 2: That's all I list to. We were going to go,
Speaker 2: I was going to go. Actually I was going to
Speaker 2: go during COVID, but they shut it down, so I
Speaker 2: spent all my favoring on drugs like a fool. So
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 1: Are you anti? Are you? Are you anti living around
Speaker 1: other people? Do not like being in a place where
Speaker 1: there's a high volume of other folks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I guess you could say anti, Like it's
Speaker 2: not like something I like the Spies. But the other
Speaker 2: day I gave a buddy a ride for where he
Speaker 2: lives out which is in the countryside, and it was
Speaker 2: a forty five minute drive out from where I live,
Speaker 2: and I stayed over there for the night and I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed that, Like just I saw some foxes, you know,
Speaker 2: on the way there, like just saw a deer, like
Speaker 2: I saw like just wildlife, and it felt cooler, like
Speaker 2: the nighttime felt a lot cooler than it does where
Speaker 2: I live. I know it's simple stuff, but I really
Speaker 2: did notice it. And I don't know. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, I think I would like to. I
Speaker 2: guess I am anti city right now.
Speaker 1: What do you feel like living out of the way
Speaker 1: would be helpful for this kind of drug seeking behavior
Speaker 1: that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, because I don't you know, it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm out here just chatting up every neighbor I have, Hey, man,
Speaker 2: you do drugs? Like I'm not doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it probably would because you know, I can
Speaker 2: get into other things that aren't just stuck within my
Speaker 2: you know, the confines of my wall, you know, my
Speaker 2: walls mm hm mm hmm. Yeah. But I've gotten into
Speaker 2: anime and stuff recently too, thanks to my girlfriend. So
Speaker 2: that's that's been helpful. You know, just got a Facebook message.
Speaker 1: Hope that's not somebody I was about to say you
Speaker 1: I heard you get a notification. It's not for one
Speaker 1: of those guys, is it.
Speaker 2: No, it was not that. I'm gonna I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: it on me right now. Sorry about that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: thanks for this. I'm sorry if I have made this
Speaker 2: a very awkward uh kind of peace for you.
Speaker 1: No, you haven't made the awkward at all.
Speaker 2: I am. I'm sure you had a stranger, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, No, I'm thinking about I guess, I'm I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about I'm I'm I just I don't know. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that it's helpful for you to No, definitely, I would
Speaker 1: rather you be talking to a gecko on the internet
Speaker 1: about all this than you know, uh, feverishly browsing the
Speaker 1: Facebook market place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I'm not. Yeah, just my my
Speaker 2: entire attention is actually on this, and you know what
Speaker 2: I speak. I'm gonna, I'm on the computer now. Actually
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you through my Google voice. I'm going
Speaker 2: to just go ahead and walk people to kind of
Speaker 2: alleviate that from you.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't work at the drink like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, hold on, I gotta know that. I gotta
Speaker 1: know this stuff. These guys like do they do they
Speaker 1: post like are they posting like drug dealer means like
Speaker 1: that where it's like spunel up with like a grill
Speaker 1: and he's got math and stuff.
Speaker 2: No, it's something like that. It's honestly, it's going to
Speaker 2: your real It's people that you would expect, so I
Speaker 2: have to I've noticed when I got into this, it's
Speaker 2: it's people that you really don't It's nothing like there's
Speaker 2: no stereotypes. Really, it's like the guy stayed with you know,
Speaker 2: he's a hardworking guy. You know, works six hour shifts
Speaker 2: and I mean six hour days. Sorry, I'm nervous talking
Speaker 2: about people. I don't want to mention any names of accident.
Speaker 2: It's people that you know that are just everyday people,
Speaker 2: you know, like middle class, you know, lower class, some
Speaker 2: even I've met a few higher class people. No, it's
Speaker 2: definitely the people you meet doing this stuff is not
Speaker 2: what you would expect like out of the movies or anything.
Speaker 2: And there's not like rotting teeth. I think that might
Speaker 2: be a late stage thing for people who just kind
Speaker 2: of like let it all go and I have to see,
Speaker 2: I have met people like that, and there's people you
Speaker 2: can spot from them all the way. But most of
Speaker 2: the people I met around my age in the thirties
Speaker 2: and stuff, and deadly enough even in the early twenties,
Speaker 2: they're just people.
Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you this, and this might
Speaker 1: be a can of worms.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm not son like you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm curious about your perspective on this, because,
Speaker 1: you know, I just got back from Australia and a
Speaker 1: lot of people there were talking to me about, you know,
Speaker 1: various areas having having meth problems. And then of course
Speaker 1: in the States, you know, in California there's there's a
Speaker 1: very big myth and fentanyl problem. And again I'm dumb
Speaker 1: as ship. I'm a fourteen year old boy in a
Speaker 1: gecko costume. But there's a lot of I guess, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of like what the fuck? And I'm I
Speaker 1: don't ever talk about like political things on here, but
Speaker 1: I'm always there is kind of a thing of like
Speaker 1: what what what's the solution overall to help cure this problem?
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you have thoughts on that. As
Speaker 1: somebody who's who's been there.
Speaker 2: I will say I do think that that NOLLA is
Speaker 2: a huge problem right now. And this is coming from
Speaker 2: a nobody who lives in the southern United States. So
Speaker 2: in just in the past two years, I have lost
Speaker 2: my stepfather to fitt and all, and I've lost one
Speaker 2: of my actually yeah, one of my best friends two
Speaker 2: years ago to that same thing. And I have my
Speaker 2: best friend's wife passed away from it. I have lost
Speaker 2: just not you know, I've lost three people I know
Speaker 2: personally just in the past couple of years. And I
Speaker 2: have lost people I know have lost more in the
Speaker 2: connected kind of circle, you know. And it's always a
Speaker 2: different kind of scenario. For example, with my my stepfather,
Speaker 2: he was a marine uh in you know, in Afghanistan
Speaker 2: and I rag back and nineties nineties whatever that that
Speaker 2: happened the nineties and early two thousands, and when he
Speaker 2: got injured in the war and he got on pay
Speaker 2: medication as a disabled veteran, and you know, he got
Speaker 2: hoo's on payments opioids and it grew from there. And
Speaker 2: you know, he was actually one of the first actually
Speaker 2: the first person who noticed what was wrong with me
Speaker 2: when I was kind of avoidant and coming around occasionally.
Speaker 2: He held me a lot, and it really sucks that
Speaker 2: he's gone, honestly, and I'm kind of pissed off at
Speaker 2: him sometimes that he even got on that. I don't
Speaker 2: really know the situation on how he got to that,
Speaker 2: but you know, in his opioids, man, it's the crisis.
Speaker 2: And as for how I got onto it, it was
Speaker 2: basically the exting kind of road, you know, just hydros
Speaker 2: and what you know. It just kind of grows from there.
Speaker 2: And lately it's you know, you always see fitting all
Speaker 2: people that will do rug dealers, they'll just kind of like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I got this in and it's general I don't you know.
Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten they'll try to offer that
Speaker 2: to you. I've kind of I do not mess with
Speaker 2: that anymore, though, I will say I I'd like to
Speaker 2: have kicked that. I've even been in it. I've been
Speaker 2: in front of it a few times now after I've
Speaker 2: gotten sober, and I refuse, you know, just based on
Speaker 2: the losses I've had over it.
Speaker 1: So you know, and by the way, man, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to hear about your how about your stuff?
Speaker 2: Father? Yeah, therapy helped me with that. One man he's in.
Speaker 2: I'd like to believe it's a better place. I don't
Speaker 2: not a religious guy, but he's not suffering, you know.
Speaker 1: So again but like, you know, back back back to
Speaker 1: the original question, like do you do you have thoughts
Speaker 1: on like what what the general solution could be to
Speaker 1: these problems?
Speaker 2: I think it might hold down to it might hold
Speaker 2: on the mental health right now, like and just I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, you know, I have thought about it,
Speaker 2: and not in the like kill your local fit and
Speaker 2: dealer kind of way, just in like an actual, like
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things. One of my best friends is
Speaker 2: actually on it right now. And you know, I've already
Speaker 2: lost another best friend and it's I don't know, like
Speaker 2: it's I had talked to him, I've poured my heart out,
Speaker 2: and you know, the family people his family and people
Speaker 2: in his life, I've done the same thing. And it's
Speaker 2: not like they're ignoring that. It's not you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of people are like, well, they don't care what
Speaker 2: they do care, But it's just there is a sense
Speaker 2: of hopelessness going on with a lot of people who
Speaker 2: were kind of poor right now. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that makes any sense, but they're the sense
Speaker 2: of hopefulness right now, hopelessness for a lot of people
Speaker 2: right now. And I really think that there there needs
Speaker 2: to be In my case, I wish I could go
Speaker 2: and get help right now. But the help I can
Speaker 2: get right now is very cheaply, very cheap. It's very like.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, you were talking to you were
Speaker 1: talking about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like getting a free trial
Speaker 2: and then all right, all right, so they want to
Speaker 2: give me some medication. Okay, I can't afford that medication.
Speaker 2: I need to pay my gas, pay my rent, you know,
Speaker 2: and and I know, and the lucky I'm lucky because
Speaker 2: I do have a plan to get out of the
Speaker 2: situation I'm in. But I do know of a lot
Speaker 2: of people who don't have a way out of that.
Speaker 2: And you know, you get a drug charge, who's going
Speaker 2: to really hire you? You know, you you get in
Speaker 2: a altercation, or you know, you steal something, you know
Speaker 2: people are going to see that, so it kind of
Speaker 2: creates a bad situation. And do you have any ideas?
Speaker 2: I'm curious about you too.
Speaker 1: Honestly, med I'm so like, I have, no I have.
Speaker 2: It's complex, man, Yeah, it's I I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to likes. I'm not if if you
Speaker 1: took one look at me, you'd be like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this I don't know if this guy is
Speaker 1: the guy to solve the fentanyl crisis in America.
Speaker 2: It's a bad one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: It's a complicated issue. Are I'm not. I'm not even
Speaker 1: going to I'm not even going to.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was curious about your thoughts as somebody who's been
Speaker 1: there and is close to the situation. Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: even going to try to come up with an opinion
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, And I will say this. I do notice,
Speaker 2: like just based on people I know and going with
Speaker 2: them to their treatments and stuff. Maybe it's the money thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe the people who are hired to treat these issues
Speaker 2: aren't paid enough because there is a it might be
Speaker 2: a des these senses, desensitized thing like maybe sorry, I
Speaker 2: can't say it right, but some people might be desnthesized
Speaker 2: to that ordeal. You know, like the people in charge
Speaker 2: of treatment, like the nurses or you know, things like that,
Speaker 2: they don't seem to care because obviously they they might
Speaker 2: expect to be that same person. Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It probably depends by state too, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like, what's your what's your name again? Give me
Speaker 1: you give me a fake one so I call you something.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go with Ace. Ace got that from
Speaker 2: One Piece. Actually, I've been watching that one lately.
Speaker 1: Thanks for I just want to say thanks for talking
Speaker 1: to me about all this stuff. Yea again, I hope
Speaker 1: this conversation was was helpful for you. I hope it's
Speaker 1: helpful for the people listening to like have an idea
Speaker 1: of what dealing with a situation like this is. Like, I, yeah,
Speaker 1: I found the thing that you were talking about about
Speaker 1: how there is no stereotypical dealer. I thought that was
Speaker 1: very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's or user.
Speaker 1: And I'm very I'm I'm I'm proud of you, happy
Speaker 1: that your your life seems to be on an upswing,
Speaker 1: going to school, getting nice girl friends. Are you are you?
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this before we go, and you can
Speaker 1: be honest with me. Are you optimistic about the direction
Speaker 1: that your life is going these days?
Speaker 2: I think I'm glancing at chat now after the conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit better. Man a lot better. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of came into it just kind of like
Speaker 2: in the throws, and I feel like I'm kind of
Speaker 2: like just kind of yeah, I feel a lot better. Dude,
Speaker 2: I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I mean, I meant, I meant like on a I
Speaker 1: met like on a macro. Not even I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about this conversation. I'm just talking about in a
Speaker 1: in a general macro sense. You are you optimistic about
Speaker 1: where life is heading?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for me. Yeah. You know, you've got the
Speaker 2: whole alien thing going on right now in America, so
Speaker 2: that's kind of exciting. So we hope it's not a distraction.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm feeling a lot better, like compared to
Speaker 2: me last year of the year before, or especially three
Speaker 2: years before. I am. I am. I'm very positive.
Speaker 1: Actually awesome, Ace Ace, Ace, Ace, go out of delete.
Speaker 1: I don't know, go ahead and delete Facebook entirely. What
Speaker 1: the fuck do you need it for? And or do
Speaker 1: you play? I can't think of a good reason to
Speaker 1: be on Facebook at all.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's it's successful. You're You're completely right. You
Speaker 2: know what? On this stream, I'm going to delete my
Speaker 2: Facebook actively really good. Yeah, I'm doing it right now, like.
Speaker 1: And they make it hard too, They like make you
Speaker 1: have to click a whole bunch of boxes and confirm
Speaker 1: your phone number and all that. Ship. Yeah, delete facing book,
Speaker 1: go look at trees.
Speaker 2: Go. I need tech support people, because what I can go?
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is now nowhere to go?
Speaker 2: Uh just typeing delete in the handlemar.
Speaker 1: No, it's really county. They make it hard, they do.
Speaker 2: All right, I promise you tonight it's just rapter this call.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. You know. I'll give you my word
Speaker 2: on that. I will not be findable. So if you
Speaker 2: look at Facebook Chat, you're not going to find me.
Speaker 2: It's going to be gone.
Speaker 1: Okay, were well, okay, we'll cut that out. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you will beep it up. Ace man, Thank you again
Speaker 1: for talking to me about this. I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: the life is going better. Is there anything else that
Speaker 1: you want to say to Yeah, about anything ever at all?
Speaker 1: Just life ever before we go, just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever's listening, just stay positive the best way you can.
Speaker 2: And if it takes reaching out to a get go
Speaker 2: on the internet, uh, just do that. It's better than
Speaker 2: the alternatives and whatever that whatever's going on in terms
Speaker 2: of a case.
Speaker 1: Like mine, I'll go I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and say, I think you should talk to a
Speaker 1: real therapist about this.
Speaker 2: No, man, but I definitely talking to a real therapist.
Speaker 2: Didn't talk to a counselor. I was being funny, but yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: If you have resources or have people who can help
Speaker 2: you get resources, please do that because it will make
Speaker 2: a difference. And as as sad as it is, I
Speaker 2: guess a little help better than no help.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, thank you.
Speaker 2: YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's interesting talking to Ace. Fuck, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not a This is not a podcast where I
Speaker 1: pretend to know how to fix. This is not a
Speaker 1: podcast I pretend to know how to fix anyone's issues,
Speaker 1: let alone a giant, systematic one. But it was cool
Speaker 1: talking to Ace. I don't, I don't, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I like hearing a I like hearing about
Speaker 1: a good upward trajectory. I like stories like that. I
Speaker 1: like stories of people turning their lives around, right because
Speaker 1: I've been I've been there before. Not with like you know,
Speaker 1: hardcore drugs or anything like that. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot I think a lot of people can relate to
Speaker 1: this idea of having been at one point or another
Speaker 1: in a time where your brain was just convinced that
Speaker 1: you were done and there was no perspective. Your brain
Speaker 1: was just like, you're done, your life is fucked up,
Speaker 1: You're hopelessly that's what he was talking about. He was
Speaker 1: talking about a lack of hope. You mentioned that. He said,
Speaker 1: a lack of of of hope. I think there's I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that a lot of people can
Speaker 1: can relate to. And you have enough of those over
Speaker 1: the course of your life, you realize that your your
Speaker 1: brain is playing some tricks on you, and so I
Speaker 1: I have a lot of a great amount of respect
Speaker 1: for people who can who have lived lives where they've
Speaker 1: been at that point several periods of time and yet
Speaker 1: found a way to prevail past it and have good
Speaker 1: relationships and careers and you know, dopamine things. I should
Speaker 1: have asked him the games he was playing. I wish
Speaker 1: I had something funny to say. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: funny to say. I'm I'm always an I'm like after
Speaker 1: a heavy thing. I should say something funny. I don't
Speaker 1: always have something funny to say, can we put a
Speaker 1: like some cartoon wiley coyote noises over over me saying
Speaker 1: this right now like.
Speaker 2: A like a you know that.
Speaker 1: You don't actually you don't actually have to do that,
Speaker 1: but if you're listening, if you don't, you don't have
Speaker 1: to actually do that. But if you're listening, just imagine
Speaker 1: that they were there. Thanks for calling Ace.
Speaker 3: All from Kelly.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's up Kelly? How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm feeling pretty good. I I've noticed, I've
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but I've noticed I feel
Speaker 1: a lot better when I'm present. And that's that's that's
Speaker 1: my happiness barometer. Am I actually present in what I'm doing?
Speaker 3: And am I actually talking to Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel very present right now. I feel present
Speaker 1: to talking to you, so right. No, yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: have any You've done nothing as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 1: to a podist for what's what's up?
Speaker 2: Kelly?
Speaker 1: I'm just.
Speaker 3: I am also present. I am here. I was actually
Speaker 3: getting ready for bed and I saw you were streaming
Speaker 3: and I was like, holy shit, you know, I might
Speaker 3: as well try.
Speaker 1: To get in bang bang have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 3: No, we haven't, but I've been listening to you to
Speaker 3: the podcast. I'm a mail carrier, so im walking all
Speaker 3: day by myself, you know, doing the devil's work, delivering
Speaker 3: bills and shit. So and I just listened to you.
Speaker 1: How long have you been doing that?
Speaker 2: For? Ten years?
Speaker 1: Years?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is a long time. It isn't It
Speaker 3: doesn't feel that long, but yeah, it's been a fucking minute.
Speaker 1: Man, tell us the ins and outs of the mail.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. You know what, I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: you something that happened to me today. So I'm at
Speaker 3: I'm at one of my boxes, and I'm I drive
Speaker 3: a mail truck or a mail van. Actually it's like
Speaker 3: a really big it's called a pro Master. It has
Speaker 3: the uh United Day's Postal Service stickers and emblems all
Speaker 3: over it. I'm in a full uniform. This guy drives
Speaker 3: up to me and he's like, you're a mail carrier.
Speaker 3: I said, huh. He said, do you deliver the mail?
Speaker 3: And I'm like yes, and I kind of laughed. He
Speaker 3: was dead serious. I thought he was joking. And I
Speaker 3: get this shit all the time. He's like, well, I'm
Speaker 3: just I'm trying to deliver this whatever he's trying to deliver.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I'm a male carrier, like I
Speaker 3: can take whatever outgoing mail you want. And he's like, okay,
Speaker 3: I just didn't know. I'm like, obviously I'm delivering mail.
Speaker 3: Like what do I look like? I just out here
Speaker 3: for fun?
Speaker 2: Hm.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't sure that you whether or not you
Speaker 1: were a male carrier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess not. I thought he was joking.
Speaker 1: Was he How old was he?
Speaker 3: He was probably older, like sixties, seventies.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Okay. You know, you know, this kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me of of of a thing that I think about
Speaker 1: a lot, and I may I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is a good I don't know if this is a
Speaker 1: good analogy, and you tell me if it's not.
Speaker 3: But okay, okay, right heah uh.
Speaker 1: Some times I'll call a store and they'll pick up
Speaker 1: and I'll say, are you guys open? Okay? You know what?
Speaker 1: You know where I'm getting at? And I'll say are
Speaker 1: you guys open? And they'll they'll respond like I'm the
Speaker 1: biggest fucking idiot they've ever met, because yeah, of course
Speaker 1: they're open. That's what they always say. They're like yeah,
Speaker 1: because they answered, but A, I'm just confirming and B
Speaker 1: it's like what am I supposed to do? Just hang
Speaker 1: up immediately, right?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: No, that is very true.
Speaker 1: So this guy, he just wanted to confirm that you
Speaker 1: were a male.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just just like it. And I even
Speaker 3: repeated it to him to see if like he understood.
Speaker 3: How like kind of dumb he sounded, asking me if
Speaker 3: I was a male person with I had mail in
Speaker 3: my hand, I had a uniform on. I just walk
Speaker 3: out of my mail truck and he was like, are
Speaker 3: you a male carrier?
Speaker 1: And I thought, what, okay, So tell me what's the
Speaker 1: what's the worst part of delivering mail?
Speaker 3: Uh? The worst part hm hmm, Well, I would have
Speaker 3: to I would have to say, definitely doing it in
Speaker 3: the winter time. I'm in Ohio, so I have winter.
Speaker 3: I have no I can deal with the cold, the snow.
Speaker 3: Not a fan of I love the summer. I love
Speaker 3: the heat. H but snow yeah, not a fan. And
Speaker 3: then obviously the dumb questions of if I have a
Speaker 3: male carrier, now do you do you?
Speaker 1: Is it true that you have to run away from
Speaker 1: dogs and stuff?
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: That is very, very true. I've had to definitely spray
Speaker 3: some dogs from time to time, but it's also like
Speaker 3: sad just spray dogs because.
Speaker 1: I love dogs, you've had to spray them?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because we carry dog spray.
Speaker 1: What is dog spray? I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like pepper spray, but it's for dogs.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not sure if there's much of a difference,
Speaker 3: but we call it dogspray, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like you're pepper spraying dogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So like if a dog, if there's such a
Speaker 3: loose dog and it's like approaching you, you know, aggressively,
Speaker 3: you know, barking, you know, foaming at the mouth, and
Speaker 3: you feel in danger. We have the spray that you're
Speaker 3: supposed to carry on you and you can just spray
Speaker 3: them and it's supposed to, you know, deter them from
Speaker 3: biting you and attacking you.
Speaker 1: How many in your tenure career, how many dogs have
Speaker 1: you pepper sprayed?
Speaker 4: Only?
Speaker 3: Like only three?
Speaker 1: But I can think of okay, you know that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean what has like what okay, how far does
Speaker 1: the situation have to escalate before you I.
Speaker 3: Can't think of one that's come come to my mind
Speaker 3: is when i'm you know, like uh, when like a carrier,
Speaker 3: you know, you're walking through people's yards. And there was
Speaker 3: when I was on this one specific route I had,
Speaker 3: uh this dog actually happened to jump the fence and
Speaker 3: it was after I'd already passed its house, but it
Speaker 3: was coming right at me and i'd have you know,
Speaker 3: it's barking, and I just happened to turn around and
Speaker 3: I had enough time to actually get my spray out
Speaker 3: because it was actually biting my bag, my my, you know,
Speaker 3: postal bag, and so I had time to spray it
Speaker 3: and then it you know, kind of whimpered away and
Speaker 3: went back to you know, its house or yard or whatnot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's just kind of what happens. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is effective.
Speaker 1: Do the owners get mad at you for spraying the dogs?
Speaker 3: So I guess it's really like it depends on who
Speaker 3: it is doing the spraying. So I so I actually
Speaker 3: the next day went up to those people's house and
Speaker 3: knocked on their door and kind of let them know
Speaker 3: the situation and was kind of like, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry I had to spray your dog, but this is
Speaker 3: what you know he did blah blah blah. And actually
Speaker 3: that particular time, they tried blaming it on me and
Speaker 3: saying that I walked up to their dogs, which was
Speaker 3: I mean, a blatant lie. But you know, you just
Speaker 3: you just try to, you know, be the best person
Speaker 3: you can and tell the truth. But sometimes people just
Speaker 3: don't like to hear the truth. They think they're you're
Speaker 3: all fine and dandy.
Speaker 1: What about the other two times?
Speaker 3: So one of the other times was I was kind
Speaker 3: of in a more rougher neighborhood and this was kind
Speaker 3: of like.
Speaker 2: I guess what I would call a rope a rogue.
Speaker 3: Dog, and it had no owner, and it was just
Speaker 3: walking the streets kind of you know, while as I
Speaker 3: was delivering mail, and it just got too close to me.
Speaker 3: And I was actually fairly new at that time. That
Speaker 3: was kind of at the beginning of my coastal career,
Speaker 3: and I just was really really nervous and it got
Speaker 3: too close and it was barking and it was a
Speaker 3: bigger dog, and I just, you know, how to do
Speaker 3: what I had to do.
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, So you know how like like if you're
Speaker 1: like a police officer, you have to like get pepper
Speaker 1: sprayed yeah, do you have to get pepper sprayed?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, No, that would be hilarious though, because
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that I would love to
Speaker 3: see that happen too, you'd like to work with?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why are there people you work with that you want
Speaker 1: to see get pepper spray?
Speaker 3: Because I work with some crazy people, idiot people. I
Speaker 3: don't know if the postal service is wild?
Speaker 1: Why don't you know that makes What is it that
Speaker 1: makes these people crazy?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just like their personalities and their
Speaker 3: way of thinking. Maybe it's just because there's such a uh.
Speaker 3: I mean there's people that still are at the post
Speaker 3: office that are like eighty years old that haven't retired yet,
Speaker 3: and I'm thirty, and then there's as young as eighteen
Speaker 3: years old, So there's so many like age gaps and
Speaker 3: so such a crazy.
Speaker 1: Would you say that they like? Well, what what exactly?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Like, do you have any examples of things that people
Speaker 1: have said or done that you you feel is uh
Speaker 1: makes you want to pepper spray them?
Speaker 3: I can't think of like a specific situation, but it's
Speaker 3: just more of like a uh, It's just like something
Speaker 3: that happens like day to day, like it's just like
Speaker 3: a random you know, someone says something just completely idiotic,
Speaker 3: like the like the person I dealt with today asking
Speaker 3: me for I'm a mail carrier.
Speaker 2: Just like that.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: that guy, I don't know. If I agree with you
Speaker 1: about that guy deserving to give pepper sprayed, I have
Speaker 1: to I'll draw my personal line there.
Speaker 3: I guess that just happened too many times to me
Speaker 3: where I'm just like, really.
Speaker 1: Now, Kelly, do you do you you personally? Do you
Speaker 1: think you'll be in the uh in the force for
Speaker 1: I mean this guy who's eighty right and he's been
Speaker 1: doing it probably since he was twenty. What do you
Speaker 1: do you see yourself winding up like that dude? Or
Speaker 1: do you have something else you want?
Speaker 3: I can I definitely can see myself maybe holding out
Speaker 3: that long. But it's actually, uh kind of funny. I
Speaker 3: was literally just talking to my mom about getting into
Speaker 3: the dog grooming business.
Speaker 1: Oh here, you're trying to You're definitely trying to make
Speaker 1: up for a few sprayed dogs.
Speaker 3: I p't here, I guess so maybe yeah, I told
Speaker 3: you I feel bad when you spray a dog you
Speaker 3: feel so bad. I mean, I'm a dog owner. I
Speaker 3: would never want my dog to be sprayed, but I
Speaker 3: do understand that, you know, there are times where it
Speaker 3: just happens.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, well, Kelly, I think about it like that.
Speaker 2: But no, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of how many shampooed dogs equate
Speaker 1: to like erase, like, Okay, so if you sprayed three dogs,
Speaker 1: you probably have to shampoo at least twenty make for
Speaker 1: the spray do I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say twenty
Speaker 1: shampooed dogs is worth three pepper sprayed dogs. And I don't.
Speaker 1: And I'm that just came up with that on the fly.
Speaker 1: That's open to interpretation. I'm open to hearing alternative viewpoints
Speaker 1: on that, but that's just what I came up with.
Speaker 3: So I think, I think twenty is a good number.
Speaker 3: But tonight, like, is my dog? Is she included in
Speaker 3: that number?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say no, unless if you
Speaker 1: pepper sprays her.
Speaker 3: No, I've never pepper swayed my dog. I could never.
Speaker 1: Kelly, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I just want to say today might be a bad day,
Speaker 3: but tomorrow as a new one, so just look forward
Speaker 3: to tomorrow. Have a good night, Kelly, you also thank you.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, and people always say that. People
Speaker 1: say that a lot. They say today is maybe a
Speaker 1: bad day, but tomorrow is a new one. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Tomorrow could all Tomorrow could also be bad.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow could tomorrow. Tomorrow could be worse, Tomorrow could be
Speaker 1: worse but then the day after that could be even
Speaker 1: worse than tomorrow. Two days from now could be double
Speaker 1: as bad as today, but then the day after it
Speaker 1: could be like a little bit better. Then the day
Speaker 1: after that even worse than two days before that day,
Speaker 1: and then the day after that is Sunday. I lost
Speaker 1: track of days. Watch watch out for your dogs if
Speaker 1: they go near the male people.
Speaker 4: Paul from Kylie, Hello, why is this the therapy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Kylie?
Speaker 3: I was Kylie asked if you were going to come
Speaker 3: to Richmond earlier.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, I don't know. I don't know when,
Speaker 1: but I'm coming in September.
Speaker 4: September.
Speaker 3: That'll be awesome. You go to twenty one enough clubs,
Speaker 3: don't you though? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Well I actually haven't. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I think, I think I want to I want to
Speaker 1: say I want to say yes, I want to say
Speaker 1: it's twenty one or not.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, then i'll see you in like three years.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 4: I'm eighteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I am no, I I get you. Man,
Speaker 1: When I was fucking eighteen nineteen twenty, there were all
Speaker 1: kinds of shows I wanted to go to that I
Speaker 1: could not go to because I was a little boy. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're on the phone right now, Kylie's what's up with you?
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about?
Speaker 4: Kind of I wanted to talk to you about my
Speaker 4: looming problem of giving myself too much to do and
Speaker 4: never feeling like I'm being productive enough.
Speaker 1: Okay, what are you giving yourself so much to do?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm becoming a sophomore in college in a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, and I took on like four jobs on campus,
Speaker 4: and I'm also a STEM major. So I'm kind of
Speaker 4: freaking out because I had to go back to college
Speaker 4: in two weeks and then I will lose all my
Speaker 4: social life after that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't I don't have any advice
Speaker 1: for you. When I was in college, I was a
Speaker 1: film major and my roommate was a by some he
Speaker 1: was a biology major, and so he hated me because
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do ever because I was studying
Speaker 1: a not real thing and he had everything to do
Speaker 1: always because he was studying a real thing. I don't
Speaker 1: I have no. I get well because when I when
Speaker 1: I was in college, I tried really hard to not
Speaker 1: have to do anything, to avoid specifically the issue that
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 4: See my parents they always warn me because my dad
Speaker 4: he was like that, he went to college and kind
Speaker 4: of have fun, and then he always tells me, oh,
Speaker 4: you better be very serious in college. You better work
Speaker 4: hard and do all this stuff, so you can not
Speaker 4: work hardon older.
Speaker 1: What I mean what so you're what what stem thing
Speaker 1: are you in?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Something microbiology or chemistry. I'm just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds that sounds that sounds awful.
Speaker 4: It's really it's really bad.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a bummer. Is that sounds so awful?
Speaker 1: But I know that someone has to do it. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I couldn't explain why chemistry is important,
Speaker 1: but like I know it is obviously right.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's it's very important. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 4: know what I would do. I'm just trying to learn
Speaker 4: it right now, but I'd love to be involved with it.
Speaker 4: It's very cool.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a vision for the future of
Speaker 1: a thing you want to do?
Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to go into what are treatment analysis.
Speaker 3: Across the world?
Speaker 1: You know that sounds important?
Speaker 3: Good time?
Speaker 4: Good time?
Speaker 1: So what are these things that you're doing outside of
Speaker 1: just the school that is given?
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to say the college that I
Speaker 4: go to, but it's a really small one here in Virginia.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 4: Became part of you know you ever like heard about
Speaker 4: the student assemblies that are at colleges and on campuses
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 1: I got involved in the events.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got involved in one last year and
Speaker 4: then I decided to do it again this year. So
Speaker 4: now I'm the vice president of that, which means I'm
Speaker 4: going to run all the events on campus trying to
Speaker 4: get things going on student engagement. And then I also
Speaker 4: became the I started a club because I was bored.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a journalism club where we write about
Speaker 4: this stuff going on. So I gotta lead that. And
Speaker 4: then I also, stupid me, decided to apply for this
Speaker 4: position in the Board of Visitors of the campus, which
Speaker 4: I would be the student representative of that, and I
Speaker 4: have to work with the president of the college and
Speaker 4: then the other college that works with us. And then
Speaker 4: I also became a residential assistant for the dormitories, so I.
Speaker 1: Have to work in Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's a it's a problem.
Speaker 1: Well no, well, okay, I'm out of all those Out
Speaker 1: of all those things, do you do you have a genuine,
Speaker 1: actual desire? Which ones do you have a real genuine
Speaker 1: passion and desire to do versus like just doing them
Speaker 1: because you signed up?
Speaker 4: I mean the R one I really wanted to do
Speaker 4: because they give you free room and board, so I
Speaker 4: would get out of the house, which sounds really nice.
Speaker 4: There to visitors one's really nice because I get to
Speaker 4: meet a lot of the higher ups to the colleges
Speaker 4: and meet some really cool, amazing people. I get to
Speaker 4: talk to representatives in Virginia and people on boards and
Speaker 4: committees and okay, yeah, those two are probably the most important.
Speaker 1: Okay, the journal is something do you do? You were
Speaker 1: you is that something you were just doing because you
Speaker 1: were bored or something you actively still enjoy Uh?
Speaker 4: I say, I think I still enjoy it. Another thing
Speaker 4: with it is I started working with the communications boards
Speaker 4: leader guy, this doucebag, and he was he told me
Speaker 4: he was gonna make me one of his interns and
Speaker 4: if I just led the club, he would say me
Speaker 4: like two hundred dollars a week just to lead the
Speaker 4: club and write the news letter form. So I'd say,
Speaker 4: that's very important of my food.
Speaker 1: And what was the first thing? Some the student events thing?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 4: The vice president of the student Assembly or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say that because you forgot
Speaker 1: about that one. It's the least important to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, No, I kind of did that one of
Speaker 3: the fight, all right, didn't.
Speaker 1: Want the other personal one, all right, so you could
Speaker 1: ditch that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 1: All right. So all right, so we're down one. Kind.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really I'm I'm I'm actually pretty fucking terrible
Speaker 1: with advice, but I'm thinking about this as I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you. All Right, ditch the one that you don't
Speaker 1: have a good explanation for, and then every single one
Speaker 1: of the other ones. In the times in which you're
Speaker 1: stressing out, I would say, remember the reasons that you
Speaker 1: just gave as to why you're in all of those things,
Speaker 1: and hopefully those reasons, if not dispelling your stress, well
Speaker 1: at least make it feel as though your stress is
Speaker 1: worth something.
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really worried.
Speaker 4: I've been worrying about it all summer, trying to figure
Speaker 4: out how I'm gonna deal with all of it. Because
Speaker 4: you know, I've grown up and as it taught that
Speaker 4: you you never work en up. So even though I'm
Speaker 4: doing all these things, I still feel like I'm not
Speaker 4: working as hard as I should be.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying okay, But but when you say it's
Speaker 1: hard with but the word should okay. See you see
Speaker 1: here's the thing you I'm I have the lost track
Speaker 1: of all the things that you're doing, but you gave
Speaker 1: me at least at least three of them. I think
Speaker 1: you gave me like well thought out reasons as to
Speaker 1: why you're doing them that are more significant than I
Speaker 1: should this vague nonsense thing that doesn't really make that
Speaker 1: comes from nowhere and it's nothing that whole I should
Speaker 1: think so next time you feel like you're stressed out
Speaker 1: or like you should be doing something forget about the
Speaker 1: should and think about the actual reasons behind the things
Speaker 1: that you're doing and let those guide to your behavior
Speaker 1: instead of the should. Because it's good. It's good that
Speaker 1: we talked about this, because do you have you have
Speaker 1: actual reasons that you gave me. You said that you
Speaker 1: can meet this person, you do this thing because you
Speaker 1: like this, This gives you free this so you can
Speaker 1: save money to do this. Those are all actual, tangible,
Speaker 1: good reasons. Then the then the one that you thought
Speaker 1: about where it was like another reasons for spite. That's
Speaker 1: a terrible reason. You get rid of that one. And
Speaker 1: then and then these these actual you've actual things to
Speaker 1: guide you further. That makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does makes sense.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Good good. I'm glad that made sense because a lot
Speaker 1: of the times I don't really know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? Okay now, okay, this now
Speaker 1: is my turn.
Speaker 4: You're helping out people, don't worry about.
Speaker 1: It, I hope. So I'm why do I do this?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Man, I could sell T shirts.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I have gone out and met so many people
Speaker 4: That's something I've always wanted to do, is to meet
Speaker 4: tons of people and learn tons of things, but have the.
Speaker 3: Guts to do it.
Speaker 1: You'll get to I think you'll get to do that. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you're studying a real you're going
Speaker 1: into like chemistry. Mm hmm, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about that. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: meet people doing chemistry.
Speaker 4: Well, you guys do a lot of things with that,
Speaker 4: you know. And there are some microbiologists that work with
Speaker 4: the delegate and people in the house and do all
Speaker 4: types work with them. So science is everywhere. And then
Speaker 4: climate change. My chemistry professor, she's an active studying that
Speaker 4: and teaches a course on it. That could be important.
Speaker 1: I've said this on the podcast like ten times, but
Speaker 1: I always feel like with climate change, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I'm I'm ready.
Speaker 3: No, I feel the exact same way. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, it's a natural process of the
Speaker 4: way the world works. By the way, buyers are completely normal.
Speaker 4: The world goes through cycles, and you know, we're just
Speaker 4: an organism, human race. We're just an organism, plain and simple.
Speaker 4: And if we're not benefiting the Earth's or it's just
Speaker 4: going to get rid of us, and that's fine because
Speaker 4: we're not doing a good job. I'll say that much.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to make sure to smoke a ton
Speaker 1: of weed and eat a lot of McDonald's before we're
Speaker 1: all dead. Kylie, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: No, I think I think I said too much already.
Speaker 1: Good luck Carly, uh, God bless you and Jesus Christ to.
Speaker 3: M by, good night bye.
Speaker 1: Never beacon goes on the line making your phone calls
Speaker 1: every night, thecon goes to unside. Was teaching you about
Speaker 1: your life blood?
Speaker 3: He's not friendly.
Speaker 1: An expert