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Speaker 2: Hello, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who's this?

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Speaker 2: This is what's up? Just struggling with sobriety?

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Speaker 1: I guess struggling with sobriety?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how old are you?

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Speaker 2: I am twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: What what sobriety? What kind of sobriety?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, it was originally a opioid kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: and then it evolved to a myth. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I can say that on stream.

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Speaker 1: Very sorry if I can't, you can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Yeah, it was opioid originally. I sent

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Speaker 2: it and I kind of beat that and it turned

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Speaker 2: into speed and I'm about a year sober from everything now,

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Speaker 2: and I guess I'm just kind of mentally hitting rock bottom,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of engaging in drug seeking behavior. I

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Speaker 2: lost my insurance and I don't have any, but I

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Speaker 2: did to talk to so here, I am. Do you.

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Speaker 1: When you were getting clean off of the drugs, did

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Speaker 1: was it just a sheer force of.

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Speaker 2: Well, at first, with Defend, I definitely went through a program,

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Speaker 2: I met some people I probably shouldn't have and I

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Speaker 2: discovered Speed and it, you know, I kind of used

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Speaker 2: You know, and I kind of had a weird relationship

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty pretty crappy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to tell you this. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you know about me or my show, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not I've.

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Speaker 2: Seen the YouTube videos and yeah, you know you're not a.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a real therapist. I'm a I'm a I

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Speaker 1: am a little I am a fourteen year old boy

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Speaker 1: in a gecko costume. Yeah, no, if you I and

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Speaker 1: I was. If you if if you accept that and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm just here to talk. Man. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna like relap. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I engaged in drugs behavior and then your notification popped

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how long, I mean, how long have you was?

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Speaker 1: So you you're a year or sober from everything? You're

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your like? Uh? I guess, I guess

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Speaker 1: Now, you with your you with your parents?

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I I moved out when I was

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Well so in the past, uh,

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Speaker 2: At the moment, like ship? I want? Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I was on Facebook earlier trying to I was doing

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Speaker 1: how how how do you find meth on Facebook?

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Speaker 1: Are they just is there just a dude on Facebook

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Speaker 2: Basically, when you do ship like that, you kind of

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought there was like some kind of like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like somebody you like, like selling a Renaissance style futon.

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Speaker 2: Actually no, no, I think it's people. I probably should

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Speaker 2: have like deleted them blocked a long time ago. Honestly

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Speaker 2: I'm actually on this weird Uh, sorry to call your

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Speaker 1: No, it's very No, it's very it's very weird. What

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Who are these guys? How do you not

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Speaker 1: like they're fucking I'm not like the FBI. I don't

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Speaker 1: neither names and addresses. But who are these guys? How

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Speaker 2: I can kind of talk about how I even got

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've talked to any doctor as

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Speaker 2: Probably a little bit. Uh. I didn't smoke it. I

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Speaker 2: like so many people on that it's all so you.

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Speaker 1: Say, so you say it's getting better in the past year,

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Speaker 1: What if any what's been giving you dopamine? Even if

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Speaker 2: Bit, uh video games, uh, alcohol, TV shows. I guess, uh,

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Speaker 2: No, it was not that. I'm gonna I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: you know, he was actually one of the first actually

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00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: the first person who noticed what was wrong with me

436
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: when I was kind of avoidant and coming around occasionally.

437
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: He held me a lot, and it really sucks that

438
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: he's gone, honestly, and I'm kind of pissed off at

439
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: him sometimes that he even got on that. I don't

440
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: really know the situation on how he got to that,

441
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: but you know, in his opioids, man, it's the crisis.

442
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: And as for how I got onto it, it was

443
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: basically the exting kind of road, you know, just hydros

444
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: and what you know. It just kind of grows from there.

445
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 2: And lately it's you know, you always see fitting all

446
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: people that will do rug dealers, they'll just kind of like, hey, man,

447
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: I got this in and it's general I don't you know.

448
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten they'll try to offer that

449
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: to you. I've kind of I do not mess with

450
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: that anymore, though, I will say I I'd like to

451
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 2: have kicked that. I've even been in it. I've been

452
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: in front of it a few times now after I've

453
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: gotten sober, and I refuse, you know, just based on

454
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: the losses I've had over it.

455
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: So you know, and by the way, man, I'm sorry

456
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: to hear about your how about your stuff?

457
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: Father? Yeah, therapy helped me with that. One man he's in.

458
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to believe it's a better place. I don't

459
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: not a religious guy, but he's not suffering, you know.

460
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: So again but like, you know, back back back to

461
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: the original question, like do you do you have thoughts

462
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: on like what what the general solution could be to

463
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: these problems?

464
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: I think it might hold down to it might hold

465
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: on the mental health right now, like and just I

466
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: don't know, man, you know, I have thought about it,

467
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: and not in the like kill your local fit and

468
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: dealer kind of way, just in like an actual, like

469
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things. One of my best friends is

470
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: actually on it right now. And you know, I've already

471
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: lost another best friend and it's I don't know, like

472
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: it's I had talked to him, I've poured my heart out,

473
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: and you know, the family people his family and people

474
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: in his life, I've done the same thing. And it's

475
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: not like they're ignoring that. It's not you know, a

476
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: lot of people are like, well, they don't care what

477
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: they do care, But it's just there is a sense

478
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: of hopelessness going on with a lot of people who

479
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: were kind of poor right now. You know, I don't

480
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: know if that makes any sense, but they're the sense

481
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: of hopefulness right now, hopelessness for a lot of people

482
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: right now. And I really think that there there needs

483
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: to be In my case, I wish I could go

484
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: and get help right now. But the help I can

485
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: get right now is very cheaply, very cheap. It's very like.

486
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, you were talking to you were

487
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: talking about that.

488
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like getting a free trial

489
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: and then all right, all right, so they want to

490
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: give me some medication. Okay, I can't afford that medication.

491
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: I need to pay my gas, pay my rent, you know,

492
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: and and I know, and the lucky I'm lucky because

493
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: I do have a plan to get out of the

494
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: situation I'm in. But I do know of a lot

495
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: of people who don't have a way out of that.

496
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: And you know, you get a drug charge, who's going

497
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: to really hire you? You know, you you get in

498
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: a altercation, or you know, you steal something, you know

499
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: people are going to see that, so it kind of

500
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: creates a bad situation. And do you have any ideas?

501
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm curious about you too.

502
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Honestly, med I'm so like, I have, no I have.

503
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: It's complex, man, Yeah, it's I I'm not.

504
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to likes. I'm not if if you

505
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: took one look at me, you'd be like, I don't

506
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: know if this I don't know if this guy is

507
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: the guy to solve the fentanyl crisis in America.

508
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: It's a bad one.

509
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have no idea. I have no idea.

510
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: It's a complicated issue. Are I'm not. I'm not even

511
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: going to I'm not even going to.

512
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: I was.

513
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I was curious about your thoughts as somebody who's been

514
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: there and is close to the situation. Well, I'm not

515
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: even going to try to come up with an opinion

516
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: on that.

517
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, And I will say this. I do notice,

518
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: like just based on people I know and going with

519
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: them to their treatments and stuff. Maybe it's the money thing.

520
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Maybe the people who are hired to treat these issues

521
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: aren't paid enough because there is a it might be

522
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: a des these senses, desensitized thing like maybe sorry, I

523
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: can't say it right, but some people might be desnthesized

524
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: to that ordeal. You know, like the people in charge

525
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: of treatment, like the nurses or you know, things like that,

526
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: they don't seem to care because obviously they they might

527
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: expect to be that same person. Again, I don't know.

528
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: It probably depends by state too, you.

529
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: Know, like, what's your what's your name again? Give me

530
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you give me a fake one so I call you something.

531
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's go with Ace. Ace got that from

532
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: One Piece. Actually, I've been watching that one lately.

533
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for I just want to say thanks for talking

534
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: to me about all this stuff. Yea again, I hope

535
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: this conversation was was helpful for you. I hope it's

536
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: helpful for the people listening to like have an idea

537
00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: of what dealing with a situation like this is. Like, I, yeah,

538
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: I found the thing that you were talking about about

539
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: how there is no stereotypical dealer. I thought that was

540
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: very interesting.

541
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's or user.

542
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: And I'm very I'm I'm I'm proud of you, happy

543
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: that your your life seems to be on an upswing,

544
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: going to school, getting nice girl friends. Are you are you?

545
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this before we go, and you can

546
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: be honest with me. Are you optimistic about the direction

547
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: that your life is going these days?

548
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: I think I'm glancing at chat now after the conversation. Yeah,

549
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit better. Man a lot better. Actually, yeah,

550
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: I kind of came into it just kind of like

551
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: in the throws, and I feel like I'm kind of

552
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: like just kind of yeah, I feel a lot better. Dude,

553
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate.

554
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I meant, I meant like on a I

555
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: met like on a macro. Not even I'm not even

556
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: talking about this conversation. I'm just talking about in a

557
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: in a general macro sense. You are you optimistic about

558
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: where life is heading?

559
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for me. Yeah. You know, you've got the

560
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: whole alien thing going on right now in America, so

561
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: that's kind of exciting. So we hope it's not a distraction.

562
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm feeling a lot better, like compared to

563
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: me last year of the year before, or especially three

564
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: years before. I am. I am. I'm very positive.

565
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: Actually awesome, Ace Ace, Ace, Ace, go out of delete.

566
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, go ahead and delete Facebook entirely. What

567
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: the fuck do you need it for? And or do

568
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: you play? I can't think of a good reason to

569
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: be on Facebook at all.

570
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: You're right, it's it's successful. You're You're completely right. You

571
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: know what? On this stream, I'm going to delete my

572
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Facebook actively really good. Yeah, I'm doing it right now, like.

573
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: And they make it hard too, They like make you

574
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: have to click a whole bunch of boxes and confirm

575
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: your phone number and all that. Ship. Yeah, delete facing book,

576
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: go look at trees.

577
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Go. I need tech support people, because what I can go?

578
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is now nowhere to go?

579
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: Uh just typeing delete in the handlemar.

580
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: No, it's really county. They make it hard, they do.

581
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 2: All right, I promise you tonight it's just rapter this call.

582
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. You know. I'll give you my word

583
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: on that. I will not be findable. So if you

584
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: look at Facebook Chat, you're not going to find me.

585
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: It's going to be gone.

586
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, were well, okay, we'll cut that out. Well, thank

587
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: you will beep it up. Ace man, Thank you again

588
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: for talking to me about this. I'm glad to hear

589
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: the life is going better. Is there anything else that

590
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: you want to say to Yeah, about anything ever at all?

591
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Just life ever before we go, just.

592
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever's listening, just stay positive the best way you can.

593
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: And if it takes reaching out to a get go

594
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: on the internet, uh, just do that. It's better than

595
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: the alternatives and whatever that whatever's going on in terms

596
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: of a case.

597
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Like mine, I'll go I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'll go

598
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: ahead and say, I think you should talk to a

599
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: real therapist about this.

600
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: No, man, but I definitely talking to a real therapist.

601
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Didn't talk to a counselor. I was being funny, but yeah, definitely.

602
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 2: If you have resources or have people who can help

603
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: you get resources, please do that because it will make

604
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: a difference. And as as sad as it is, I

605
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: guess a little help better than no help.

606
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, thank you.

607
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: YouTube.

608
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: It's interesting talking to Ace. Fuck, dude, I don't know.

609
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm not a This is not a podcast where I

610
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: pretend to know how to fix. This is not a

611
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: podcast I pretend to know how to fix anyone's issues,

612
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: let alone a giant, systematic one. But it was cool

613
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: talking to Ace. I don't, I don't, I don't, I

614
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I like hearing a I like hearing about

615
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: a good upward trajectory. I like stories like that. I

616
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: like stories of people turning their lives around, right because

617
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I've been I've been there before. Not with like you know,

618
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: hardcore drugs or anything like that. But I think a

619
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: lot I think a lot of people can relate to

620
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: this idea of having been at one point or another

621
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: in a time where your brain was just convinced that

622
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: you were done and there was no perspective. Your brain

623
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: was just like, you're done, your life is fucked up,

624
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: You're hopelessly that's what he was talking about. He was

625
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: talking about a lack of hope. You mentioned that. He said,

626
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: a lack of of of hope. I think there's I

627
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that a lot of people can

628
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: can relate to. And you have enough of those over

629
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: the course of your life, you realize that your your

630
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: brain is playing some tricks on you, and so I

631
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: I have a lot of a great amount of respect

632
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: for people who can who have lived lives where they've

633
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: been at that point several periods of time and yet

634
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: found a way to prevail past it and have good

635
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: relationships and careers and you know, dopamine things. I should

636
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: have asked him the games he was playing. I wish

637
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: I had something funny to say. I don't have anything

638
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: funny to say. I'm I'm always an I'm like after

639
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: a heavy thing. I should say something funny. I don't

640
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: always have something funny to say, can we put a

641
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: like some cartoon wiley coyote noises over over me saying

642
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: this right now like.

643
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: A like a you know that.

644
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: You don't actually you don't actually have to do that,

645
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: but if you're listening, if you don't, you don't have

646
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: to actually do that. But if you're listening, just imagine

647
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: that they were there. Thanks for calling Ace.

648
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: All from Kelly.

649
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's up Kelly? How you doing?

650
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm great? How are you?

651
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm feeling pretty good. I I've noticed, I've

652
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but I've noticed I feel

653
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot better when I'm present. And that's that's that's

654
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: my happiness barometer. Am I actually present in what I'm doing?

655
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: And am I actually talking to Lyle?

656
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel very present right now. I feel present

657
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: to talking to you, so right. No, yeah, you don't

658
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: have any You've done nothing as far as I'm concerned

659
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: to a podist for what's what's up?

660
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Kelly?

661
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm just.

662
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: I am also present. I am here. I was actually

663
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: getting ready for bed and I saw you were streaming

664
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: and I was like, holy shit, you know, I might

665
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: as well try.

666
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: To get in bang bang have we ever spoken before?

667
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: No, we haven't, but I've been listening to you to

668
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: the podcast. I'm a mail carrier, so im walking all

669
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: day by myself, you know, doing the devil's work, delivering

670
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: bills and shit. So and I just listened to you.

671
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: How long have you been doing that?

672
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: For? Ten years?

673
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Years?

674
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: God?

675
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, long time.

676
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is a long time. It isn't It

677
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: doesn't feel that long, but yeah, it's been a fucking minute.

678
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Man, tell us the ins and outs of the mail.

679
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. You know what, I'm going to tell

680
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 3: you something that happened to me today. So I'm at

681
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm at one of my boxes, and I'm I drive

682
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: a mail truck or a mail van. Actually it's like

683
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: a really big it's called a pro Master. It has

684
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: the uh United Day's Postal Service stickers and emblems all

685
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: over it. I'm in a full uniform. This guy drives

686
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: up to me and he's like, you're a mail carrier.

687
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: I said, huh. He said, do you deliver the mail?

688
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like yes, and I kind of laughed. He

689
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: was dead serious. I thought he was joking. And I

690
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: get this shit all the time. He's like, well, I'm

691
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: just I'm trying to deliver this whatever he's trying to deliver.

692
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I'm a male carrier, like I

693
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: can take whatever outgoing mail you want. And he's like, okay,

694
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 3: I just didn't know. I'm like, obviously I'm delivering mail.

695
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: Like what do I look like? I just out here

696
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: for fun?

697
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Hm.

698
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: So he wasn't sure that you whether or not you

699
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: were a male carrier.

700
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess not. I thought he was joking.

701
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Was he How old was he?

702
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: He was probably older, like sixties, seventies.

703
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Maybe, Okay. You know, you know, this kind of reminds

704
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: me of of of a thing that I think about

705
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot, and I may I don't know if this

706
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: is a good I don't know if this is a

707
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: good analogy, and you tell me if it's not.

708
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: But okay, okay, right heah uh.

709
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: Some times I'll call a store and they'll pick up

710
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: and I'll say, are you guys open? Okay? You know what?

711
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: You know where I'm getting at? And I'll say are

712
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: you guys open? And they'll they'll respond like I'm the

713
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: biggest fucking idiot they've ever met, because yeah, of course

714
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: they're open. That's what they always say. They're like yeah,

715
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: because they answered, but A, I'm just confirming and B

716
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: it's like what am I supposed to do? Just hang

717
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: up immediately, right?

718
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: You know?

719
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: No, that is very true.

720
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: So this guy, he just wanted to confirm that you

721
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: were a male.

722
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just just like it. And I even

723
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: repeated it to him to see if like he understood.

724
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: How like kind of dumb he sounded, asking me if

725
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: I was a male person with I had mail in

726
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: my hand, I had a uniform on. I just walk

727
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: out of my mail truck and he was like, are

728
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: you a male carrier?

729
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: And I thought, what, okay, So tell me what's the

730
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: what's the worst part of delivering mail?

731
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Uh? The worst part hm hmm, Well, I would have

732
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: to I would have to say, definitely doing it in

733
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 3: the winter time. I'm in Ohio, so I have winter.

734
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: I have no I can deal with the cold, the snow.

735
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: Not a fan of I love the summer. I love

736
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: the heat. H but snow yeah, not a fan. And

737
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: then obviously the dumb questions of if I have a

738
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: male carrier, now do you do you?

739
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Is it true that you have to run away from

740
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: dogs and stuff?

741
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: It is.

742
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: That is very, very true. I've had to definitely spray

743
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: some dogs from time to time, but it's also like

744
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: sad just spray dogs because.

745
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: I love dogs, you've had to spray them?

746
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because we carry dog spray.

747
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: What is dog spray? I've never heard of that.

748
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of like pepper spray, but it's for dogs.

749
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not sure if there's much of a difference,

750
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: but we call it dogspray, and it's.

751
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: Like you're pepper spraying dogs.

752
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. So like if a dog, if there's such a

753
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: loose dog and it's like approaching you, you know, aggressively,

754
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: you know, barking, you know, foaming at the mouth, and

755
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: you feel in danger. We have the spray that you're

756
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: supposed to carry on you and you can just spray

757
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: them and it's supposed to, you know, deter them from

758
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: biting you and attacking you.

759
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: How many in your tenure career, how many dogs have

760
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: you pepper sprayed?

761
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: Only?

762
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: Like only three?

763
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: But I can think of okay, you know that's pretty good.

764
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean what has like what okay, how far does

765
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: the situation have to escalate before you I.

766
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Can't think of one that's come come to my mind

767
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: is when i'm you know, like uh, when like a carrier,

768
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, you're walking through people's yards. And there was

769
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: when I was on this one specific route I had,

770
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: uh this dog actually happened to jump the fence and

771
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: it was after I'd already passed its house, but it

772
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: was coming right at me and i'd have you know,

773
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: it's barking, and I just happened to turn around and

774
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: I had enough time to actually get my spray out

775
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: because it was actually biting my bag, my my, you know,

776
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: postal bag, and so I had time to spray it

777
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: and then it you know, kind of whimpered away and

778
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: went back to you know, its house or yard or whatnot.

779
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's just kind of what happens. I mean,

780
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: it is effective.

781
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Do the owners get mad at you for spraying the dogs?

782
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: So I guess it's really like it depends on who

783
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: it is doing the spraying. So I so I actually

784
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: the next day went up to those people's house and

785
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: knocked on their door and kind of let them know

786
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: the situation and was kind of like, you know, I'm

787
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: sorry I had to spray your dog, but this is

788
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: what you know he did blah blah blah. And actually

789
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: that particular time, they tried blaming it on me and

790
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: saying that I walked up to their dogs, which was

791
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean, a blatant lie. But you know, you just

792
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 3: you just try to, you know, be the best person

793
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: you can and tell the truth. But sometimes people just

794
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: don't like to hear the truth. They think they're you're

795
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: all fine and dandy.

796
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: What about the other two times?

797
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: So one of the other times was I was kind

798
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: of in a more rougher neighborhood and this was kind

799
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: of like.

800
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: I guess what I would call a rope a rogue.

801
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Dog, and it had no owner, and it was just

802
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: walking the streets kind of you know, while as I

803
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: was delivering mail, and it just got too close to me.

804
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: And I was actually fairly new at that time. That

805
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: was kind of at the beginning of my coastal career,

806
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: and I just was really really nervous and it got

807
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: too close and it was barking and it was a

808
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: bigger dog, and I just, you know, how to do

809
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: what I had to do.

810
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, So you know how like like if you're

811
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: like a police officer, you have to like get pepper

812
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: sprayed yeah, do you have to get pepper sprayed?

813
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, No, that would be hilarious though, because

814
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that I would love to

815
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: see that happen too, you'd like to work with?

816
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

817
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Why? Why?

818
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Why are there people you work with that you want

819
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: to see get pepper spray?

820
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Because I work with some crazy people, idiot people. I

821
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: don't know if the postal service is wild?

822
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: Why don't you know that makes What is it that

823
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: makes these people crazy?

824
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just like their personalities and their

825
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: way of thinking. Maybe it's just because there's such a uh.

826
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean there's people that still are at the post

827
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: office that are like eighty years old that haven't retired yet,

828
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: and I'm thirty, and then there's as young as eighteen

829
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: years old, So there's so many like age gaps and

830
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: so such a crazy.

831
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: Would you say that they like? Well, what what exactly?

832
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Like?

833
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 1: Like, do you have any examples of things that people

834
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: have said or done that you you feel is uh

835
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: makes you want to pepper spray them?

836
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: I can't think of like a specific situation, but it's

837
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: just more of like a uh, It's just like something

838
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: that happens like day to day, like it's just like

839
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: a random you know, someone says something just completely idiotic,

840
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: like the like the person I dealt with today asking

841
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: me for I'm a mail carrier.

842
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Just like that.

843
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I don't know if

844
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: that guy, I don't know. If I agree with you

845
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: about that guy deserving to give pepper sprayed, I have

846
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: to I'll draw my personal line there.

847
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: I guess that just happened too many times to me

848
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: where I'm just like, really.

849
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Now, Kelly, do you do you you personally? Do you

850
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: think you'll be in the uh in the force for

851
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean this guy who's eighty right and he's been

852
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: doing it probably since he was twenty. What do you

853
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: do you see yourself winding up like that dude? Or

854
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: do you have something else you want?

855
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: I can I definitely can see myself maybe holding out

856
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: that long. But it's actually, uh kind of funny. I

857
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: was literally just talking to my mom about getting into

858
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: the dog grooming business.

859
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh here, you're trying to You're definitely trying to make

860
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: up for a few sprayed dogs.

861
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: I p't here, I guess so maybe yeah, I told

862
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: you I feel bad when you spray a dog you

863
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: feel so bad. I mean, I'm a dog owner. I

864
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: would never want my dog to be sprayed, but I

865
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: do understand that, you know, there are times where it

866
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: just happens.

867
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: But but yeah, well, Kelly, I think about it like that.

868
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: But no, I am.

869
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of how many shampooed dogs equate

870
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: to like erase, like, Okay, so if you sprayed three dogs,

871
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: you probably have to shampoo at least twenty make for

872
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: the spray do I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say twenty

873
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: shampooed dogs is worth three pepper sprayed dogs. And I don't.

874
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: And I'm that just came up with that on the fly.

875
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: That's open to interpretation. I'm open to hearing alternative viewpoints

876
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: on that, but that's just what I came up with.

877
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: So I think, I think twenty is a good number.

878
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: But tonight, like, is my dog? Is she included in

879
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: that number?

880
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say no, unless if you

881
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: pepper sprays her.

882
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: No, I've never pepper swayed my dog. I could never.

883
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Kelly, is there anything else you want to say to

884
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?

885
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: I just want to say today might be a bad day,

886
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: but tomorrow as a new one, so just look forward

887
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: to tomorrow. Have a good night, Kelly, you also thank you.

888
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, and people always say that. People

889
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: say that a lot. They say today is maybe a

890
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: bad day, but tomorrow is a new one. But here's

891
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: the thing. Tomorrow could all Tomorrow could also be bad.

892
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: Tomorrow could tomorrow. Tomorrow could be worse, Tomorrow could be

893
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: worse but then the day after that could be even

894
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: worse than tomorrow. Two days from now could be double

895
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: as bad as today, but then the day after it

896
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: could be like a little bit better. Then the day

897
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: after that even worse than two days before that day,

898
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: and then the day after that is Sunday. I lost

899
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: track of days. Watch watch out for your dogs if

900
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: they go near the male people.

901
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: Paul from Kylie, Hello, why is this the therapy?

902
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

903
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: Who is this?

904
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: This is Kylie?

905
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: I was Kylie asked if you were going to come

906
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: to Richmond earlier.

907
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, I don't know. I don't know when,

908
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: but I'm coming in September.

909
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 4: September.

910
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 3: That'll be awesome. You go to twenty one enough clubs,

911
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: don't you though? Uh?

912
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Well I actually haven't. I have no idea.

913
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I think, I think I want to I want to

914
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: say I want to say yes, I want to say

915
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: it's twenty one or not.

916
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, then i'll see you in like three years.

917
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: How old are you?

918
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm eighteen?

919
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I am no, I I get you. Man,

920
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: When I was fucking eighteen nineteen twenty, there were all

921
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: kinds of shows I wanted to go to that I

922
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: could not go to because I was a little boy. Well, anyway,

923
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: we're on the phone right now, Kylie's what's up with you?

924
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about?

925
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: Kind of I wanted to talk to you about my

926
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: looming problem of giving myself too much to do and

927
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: never feeling like I'm being productive enough.

928
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, what are you giving yourself so much to do?

929
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: Well, I'm becoming a sophomore in college in a couple

930
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: of weeks, and I took on like four jobs on campus,

931
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: and I'm also a STEM major. So I'm kind of

932
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: freaking out because I had to go back to college

933
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: in two weeks and then I will lose all my

934
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: social life after that.

935
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't I don't have any advice

936
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: for you. When I was in college, I was a

937
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: film major and my roommate was a by some he

938
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: was a biology major, and so he hated me because

939
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do ever because I was studying

940
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: a not real thing and he had everything to do

941
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: always because he was studying a real thing. I don't

942
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: I have no. I get well because when I when

943
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: I was in college, I tried really hard to not

944
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: have to do anything, to avoid specifically the issue that

945
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: you have.

946
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get that.

947
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: See my parents they always warn me because my dad

948
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: he was like that, he went to college and kind

949
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 4: of have fun, and then he always tells me, oh,

950
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: you better be very serious in college. You better work

951
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: hard and do all this stuff, so you can not

952
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: work hardon older.

953
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: What I mean what so you're what what stem thing

954
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: are you in?

955
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

956
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: Something microbiology or chemistry. I'm just trying to figure it out.

957
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds that sounds that sounds awful.

958
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 4: It's really it's really bad.

959
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's a bummer. Is that sounds so awful?

960
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: But I know that someone has to do it. I

961
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know why. I couldn't explain why chemistry is important,

962
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: but like I know it is obviously right.

963
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's it's very important. Honestly, I don't

964
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 4: know what I would do. I'm just trying to learn

965
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: it right now, but I'd love to be involved with it.

966
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: It's very cool.

967
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: Do you have like a vision for the future of

968
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: a thing you want to do?

969
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to go into what are treatment analysis.

970
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: Across the world?

971
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: You know that sounds important?

972
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: Good time?

973
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 4: Good time?

974
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: So what are these things that you're doing outside of

975
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: just the school that is given?

976
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to say the college that I

977
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: go to, but it's a really small one here in Virginia.

978
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: And I.

979
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: Became part of you know you ever like heard about

980
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: the student assemblies that are at colleges and on campuses

981
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: and stuff.

982
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: I got involved in the events.

983
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got involved in one last year and

984
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 4: then I decided to do it again this year. So

985
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 4: now I'm the vice president of that, which means I'm

986
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: going to run all the events on campus trying to

987
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: get things going on student engagement. And then I also

988
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: became the I started a club because I was bored.

989
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: It's a it's a journalism club where we write about

990
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: this stuff going on. So I gotta lead that. And

991
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: then I also, stupid me, decided to apply for this

992
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: position in the Board of Visitors of the campus, which

993
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: I would be the student representative of that, and I

994
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 4: have to work with the president of the college and

995
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: then the other college that works with us. And then

996
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: I also became a residential assistant for the dormitories, so I.

997
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Have to work in Jesus Christ.

998
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's a it's a problem.

999
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: Well no, well, okay, I'm out of all those Out

1000
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: of all those things, do you do you have a genuine,

1001
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: actual desire? Which ones do you have a real genuine

1002
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: passion and desire to do versus like just doing them

1003
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: because you signed up?

1004
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 4: I mean the R one I really wanted to do

1005
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 4: because they give you free room and board, so I

1006
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 4: would get out of the house, which sounds really nice.

1007
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: There to visitors one's really nice because I get to

1008
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 4: meet a lot of the higher ups to the colleges

1009
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 4: and meet some really cool, amazing people. I get to

1010
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 4: talk to representatives in Virginia and people on boards and

1011
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: committees and okay, yeah, those two are probably the most important.

1012
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay, the journal is something do you do? You were

1013
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: you is that something you were just doing because you

1014
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: were bored or something you actively still enjoy Uh?

1015
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: I say, I think I still enjoy it. Another thing

1016
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: with it is I started working with the communications boards

1017
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: leader guy, this doucebag, and he was he told me

1018
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: he was gonna make me one of his interns and

1019
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: if I just led the club, he would say me

1020
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: like two hundred dollars a week just to lead the

1021
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 4: club and write the news letter form. So I'd say,

1022
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: that's very important of my food.

1023
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: And what was the first thing? Some the student events thing?

1024
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the.

1025
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: The vice president of the student Assembly or whatever.

1026
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say that because you forgot

1027
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: about that one. It's the least important to you.

1028
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, No, I kind of did that one of

1029
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: the fight, all right, didn't.

1030
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Want the other personal one, all right, so you could

1031
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: ditch that?

1032
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no for sure.

1033
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: All right. So all right, so we're down one. Kind.

1034
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm actually really I'm I'm I'm actually pretty fucking terrible

1035
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: with advice, but I'm thinking about this as I'm talking

1036
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: to you. All Right, ditch the one that you don't

1037
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: have a good explanation for, and then every single one

1038
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: of the other ones. In the times in which you're

1039
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: stressing out, I would say, remember the reasons that you

1040
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: just gave as to why you're in all of those things,

1041
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: and hopefully those reasons, if not dispelling your stress, well

1042
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: at least make it feel as though your stress is

1043
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: worth something.

1044
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

1045
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: I like that.

1046
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really worried.

1047
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: I've been worrying about it all summer, trying to figure

1048
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: out how I'm gonna deal with all of it. Because

1049
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: you know, I've grown up and as it taught that

1050
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: you you never work en up. So even though I'm

1051
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: doing all these things, I still feel like I'm not

1052
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: working as hard as I should be.

1053
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: And I'm trying okay, But but when you say it's

1054
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: hard with but the word should okay. See you see

1055
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: here's the thing you I'm I have the lost track

1056
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: of all the things that you're doing, but you gave

1057
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: me at least at least three of them. I think

1058
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: you gave me like well thought out reasons as to

1059
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: why you're doing them that are more significant than I

1060
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: should this vague nonsense thing that doesn't really make that

1061
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: comes from nowhere and it's nothing that whole I should

1062
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: think so next time you feel like you're stressed out

1063
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: or like you should be doing something forget about the

1064
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: should and think about the actual reasons behind the things

1065
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: that you're doing and let those guide to your behavior

1066
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: instead of the should. Because it's good. It's good that

1067
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: we talked about this, because do you have you have

1068
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: actual reasons that you gave me. You said that you

1069
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: can meet this person, you do this thing because you

1070
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: like this, This gives you free this so you can

1071
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: save money to do this. Those are all actual, tangible,

1072
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: good reasons. Then the then the one that you thought

1073
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: about where it was like another reasons for spite. That's

1074
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: a terrible reason. You get rid of that one. And

1075
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: then and then these these actual you've actual things to

1076
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: guide you further. That makes sense.

1077
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does makes sense.

1078
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1079
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Good good. I'm glad that made sense because a lot

1080
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: of the times I don't really know what I'm doing.

1081
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? Okay now, okay, this now

1082
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: is my turn.

1083
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: You're helping out people, don't worry about.

1084
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: It, I hope. So I'm why do I do this?

1085
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1086
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: Man, I could sell T shirts.

1087
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes I have gone out and met so many people

1088
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: That's something I've always wanted to do, is to meet

1089
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 4: tons of people and learn tons of things, but have the.

1090
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Speaker 3: Guts to do it.

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Speaker 1: You'll get to I think you'll get to do that. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because you're studying a real you're going

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Speaker 1: into like chemistry. Mm hmm, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know anything about that. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: meet people doing chemistry.

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Speaker 4: Well, you guys do a lot of things with that,

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Speaker 4: you know. And there are some microbiologists that work with

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Speaker 4: the delegate and people in the house and do all

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Speaker 4: types work with them. So science is everywhere. And then

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Speaker 4: climate change. My chemistry professor, she's an active studying that

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Speaker 4: and teaches a course on it. That could be important.

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Speaker 1: I've said this on the podcast like ten times, but

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Speaker 1: I always feel like with climate change, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I'm I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: No, I feel the exact same way. Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, it's a natural process of the

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Speaker 4: way the world works. By the way, buyers are completely normal.

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Speaker 4: The world goes through cycles, and you know, we're just

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Speaker 4: an organism, human race. We're just an organism, plain and simple.

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Speaker 4: And if we're not benefiting the Earth's or it's just

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Speaker 4: going to get rid of us, and that's fine because

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Speaker 4: we're not doing a good job. I'll say that much.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to make sure to smoke a ton

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Speaker 1: of weed and eat a lot of McDonald's before we're

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Speaker 1: all dead. Kylie, is there anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think I said too much already.

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Speaker 1: Good luck Carly, uh, God bless you and Jesus Christ to.

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Speaker 3: M by, good night bye.

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Speaker 1: Never beacon goes on the line making your phone calls

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Speaker 1: every night, thecon goes to unside. Was teaching you about

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Speaker 1: your life blood?

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Speaker 3: He's not friendly.

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Speaker 1: An expert