WEBVTT - Luke McCown on Saints Podcast | April 2, 2025 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.799 Welcome in to the New Orleans Saints Podcast, present a 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.560 buy seacake. You'll hear from players, coaches, broadcasters and writers 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.680 that cover the NFL on a daily basis. The New 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:25.080 Orleans Saints Podcast starts right now. Here's your host, Aaron Summers. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.639 Welcome to the New Orleans Saints Podcast. Aaron Summers Here, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.879 we kick off our position breakdowns today as we are 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.440 ramping up towards the NFL Draft. We're starting with quarterback prospects. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.879 Several names have been talked about for months now, like 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.760 Miami quarterback cam Ward and Colorado's Shador Sanders. But there 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.400 are a lot more names we'll hear called at the 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.479 end of the month with the draft being April twenty 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.920 fourth through twenty six. Helping me talk all things QBS 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.560 today our very own Saints legend, Luke McCown. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.080 Luca. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.560 It's great to have you back on the New Orleans 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.240 Saints Podcast. It's been a little bit of time now 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.080 since we were at the Combine. A couple of pro 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.000 days have happened. How are you. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.440 I'm doing well. I'm doing well. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.280 Track season for my kiddos is. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.640 Starting to wrap up, and so so the late nights 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.919 you know, track, track season can can or track meets 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.200 can get long because my kids run the four hundred 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.200 and the four by four and four by four generally 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.039 the last meeting. Yeah, and so so yeah, it can. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.680 It can create some late nights. So glad that that's 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.080 kind of wrapping up a little bit. But it's been good. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.600 Yeah, Well, spring is basically underway and we are getting 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.280 ready for the NFL Draft, So had to have you 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.520 on to preview the quarterback prospects that we have. There's 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.040 been a lot of noise around a bunch of them, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.120 but last year six went in the first round. How 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.920 do you think that the talent and depth compares to 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.000 last year's draft. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.520 Yeah, overall talent wise, I don't think uh, and I 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.800 think that this I'm not stating anything. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.480 That's that's and I've been said before. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.640 I don't think that overall talent wise, it's quite what 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.600 it was last year. You know, when you talk about 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.480 Caleb and gosh, you know Jade Dams and what he 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:23.400 did this year, obviously a Heisman Trophy winner, you got 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.800 both next you just gotta you know, everybody, all the 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.560 things that that that these guys did on the field 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.720 when they when they got into the regular season kind 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.919 of proved to you what they were, you know why 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.519 they were considered h where they. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.720 Were and and drafted where they were. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:45.120 And so I don't think overall, talent wise, you you 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:50.119 get that from this class. That's not to say that 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.760 there's guys that that aren't worthy obviously. Uh, you know, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.800 necessity kind of rules the day when it becomes you know, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.280 when it comes to the draft, and so team that 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.519 need quarterbacks are going to get quarterbacks. And it really 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:09.600 doesn't matter what the prognosticators say. It really doesn't matter, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:16.200 you know what the what the presumed talent level is. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.000 There's gonna be guys that are that go in in 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:25.000 areas that maybe they shouldn't otherwise simply from the standpoint 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.239 of need. And and like I said, necessity becomes king 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.600 on draft day and if you need a quarterback, you 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.560 have to go get one. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.160 Well, once again, following the saga of Aaron Rodgers and 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.200 where he's gonna land, it seems like it's going to 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.360 be with the Steelers. What are some of the NFL 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.160 teams that you think do have that need at quarterback 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.320 that will be drafting for one. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.360 Yeah, Well, obviously the Steelers. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.720 They're trying to address that, you know, with Aaron, and 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.280 it sounds like that's getting closer and closer to becoming 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:54.800 a reality. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:55.200 Obviously. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.240 The Oakland Raiders are one that you would kind of 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.880 go that they you know, they need guy. They've you know, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.640 they they've tried a few guys in the past and 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:11.800 it's just hadn't hadn't really been one to to stick yet. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.800 You know, I think there are several teams that that 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:19.400 you look at and and and you know, what's what's 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.760 New York gonna do? And I mean they've they've got 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.320 obviously Russ and and uh and Jabu now and and 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.320 so you know, what's their mindset? 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.240 Uh, do they feel like they're set? 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.360 They've got two veteran guys that have been in the league, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.600 that have won games, that have been successful. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:36.880 What's their mindset. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.279 I know a lot of people have have tried to 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:45.240 attach Schador to the Giants in some way, but uh, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.960 you know, to me, I think the move and signing 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.760 both of those pieces tells you that they're not in 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.200 the market, that they're not interested in a quarterback that 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.919 they they're going to go about it with with you know, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.600 a veteran presence and and not kind of hitch their 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.000 wagon to a rookie, you know, because quite honestly, the 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:09.920 Giants have to. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:10.960 Have to win this year. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.719 I mean that that staff is it's probably gonna be 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.159 given a short leash, I would, I would think, And 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.680 so I can see why they're gonna go to the 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.520 veteran route. Cleveland obviously, uh has has been quarterback needy 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:25.000 since I. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.600 Was drafted there in two thousand and four, So. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.520 You know, they're they're always looking to to to be 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.719 in a spot there. I think Kirk Cousins makes a 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.120 lot of sense. He's got a background with Kevin Stefanski 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.480 and and if that happens, then they're out of the 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.120 quarterback market. As far as the draft goes, I think, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.239 so yeah, it's gonna be interesting, to say the least. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.440 I mean, they're there's you know, again, every the quarterback 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.880 pick early in the draft is always the sexy pick, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:58.760 because everybody. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.600 Goes, well, you gotta have a franchise guy. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.200 We gotta Yeah, but you can set your franchise back 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.279 if you reach for a guy that's not a franchise guy. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.880 You you're gonna turn the whole building around. Because coaches 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.400 at that point are going to be on the hot seat. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.920 And and so. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.320 I think you're gonna find a lot of teams that 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.480 are going to explore every option outside of drafting one. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.840 Save cam Ward. I think I think. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.159 That's you can probably write that in Stone after his 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.599 pro day. I think that he's going to go to Tennessee. Uh. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.840 And I think that's probably the. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.360 The surest bet for where a quarterback is going to 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.760 go in this draft so far. Uh And and that'll 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.400 be the right play for Tennessee. They've they've got to 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.480 get that right. And I think cam is the only 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.160 one worthy of that. Uh. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.640 That pick, you know, as a number one. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:49.160 In this draft. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.039 And Ward out of Miami. He didn't participate in the combine, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.480 but as you mentioned, did do the on field drills 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.360 through at his pro day in Miami. What did you see? 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.000 Why do you think that he really solidified himself in that. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.400 Yeah, I think he's a little more dynamic than than 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.360 just about every other guy in this draft. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:15.480 He plays with extreme confidence. His journey is one that 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.600 you make movies out of. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:23.320 Right, a zero star recruit, incarnate word in Houston and 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:29.200 kind of growing from there. And so this this trajectory 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.760 that he's been on for the last four years is 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.400 really impressive, and as an evaluator, it makes you go, man, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.440 he had that type of hunger, that type of chip 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.160 on his shoulder, whatever you want to call it, that 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.720 his his progression, his growth is so impressive that you 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.560 you have to expect that it's going to be that 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.040 much more so when it's his job, when he's not 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.240 divided in school, when he's got plenty of money and 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.440 the resources to apply to his body, apply to training, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.880 all the different things that he's going to do the 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.360 you know, all the all the the the necessary things 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.760 off the field to become as good as he can be. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.760 And so I think as an evaluator, as a team 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.600 and you look at it as a coaching staff, you look 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.800 at that and go, man, that's our guy. And then 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.840 when he shows it to you on the field and 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.040 the things that you see in shorts that that obviously 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.520 don't mean a whole lot obviously, but when when it 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.800 matches what the tape shows, that's the big deal. When 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:38.080 when your traits match what shows up on tape and 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.560 it and it leads to productivity, that's when it all 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:42.520 kind of comes together. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.079 And Uh, and I think Cam did that magically. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.800 I don't think that he's some wildly athletic He's not 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.760 an Anthony Richardson athletic kind of a guy like that. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.480 But but he's slippery enough, he gets out of the 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:02.440 pocket well, he understands angles and and timing and rhythm. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:07.040 He just he gets it from a passer's perspective and 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:12.160 plays with just enough of the the off script and 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:17.560 athletic ability that you would need to to be successful. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.560 And I think that's what separates him from the rest 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.240 of the you know, the guys in this group. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.760 When you look at somebody like Jalen Millroe, who did 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.920 rush for twenty touchdowns, has that ability with his legs. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.120 Is that something you value based on scheme and what 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.080 you're doing as the NFL team their offense And when 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:37.800 do you rank that? 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.280 Yeah, No, it's extremely valuable it but like you just 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.560 said it, it will be. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.320 More valuable to a certain scheme, right. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:47.960 Uh. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.439 You would see that that that skill set being. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.040 Very well played out in the Philadelphia Eagles in a 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.880 Kellen Moore's system, It would be very well played out 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.400 in a in a Baltimore Ravens system. Even in a 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.120 in a Buffalo Bill system where they use Josh that 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.400 way a whole lot. As a matter of fact, I 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.080 think over the last you know whatever it is two 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.880 or three seasons, Josh has led the league in in 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.439 UH in touchdown runs. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.000 Over the span of three years or so. And so. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.920 It is he's one of my favorite guys in this draft. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.560 Not It's not like I think that he's gonna, you know, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.040 somehow jump into the first round. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.480 I don't. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.480 I I I tweeted this a couple of days ago. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.320 I think that he's got the highest ceiling of all 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.960 the quarterbacks in this draft because of his skill set, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.600 because of the traits that he has. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.240 Uh, he's incredibly smart. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.839 UH, he's a great leader, and and he has all 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.840 the raw athleticism that you would want to build around. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.280 And you know, he needs to get polished up, and 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.360 some team out there is going to fall in love 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.120 with it. And I had a conversation with Kurt Warner 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.880 on on Twitter just the other day, kind of a 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.560 back and forth, and it's just because he's raw and 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.240 has the traits doesn't mean he'll ever realize them. But 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:19.079 coaches in the NFL are generally and I say this 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.120 tongue in cheek, egotistical enough. They believe they can coach 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.040 that guy up. They believe that they that they're coaching 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.120 will get him to the to the next step, to 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.480 the next, you know, level of progression or development, and 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.480 somebody's gonna fall in love with him and probably take him. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.720 I think I don't see him going any lower than 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.160 probably the fourth round, because he's I think that his 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.440 skill set, his traits are are probably different, not probably 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.360 are different than just about anybody else in this. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.760 Draft, somebody that's on everyone's radar. I have seen his 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.600 name associated with the Saints a little bit as Jackson 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.760 Dart old mess quarterback. I've seen him comp to Garner. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:11:59.880 Men. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.400 Shoot, how do you feel about him? You think that's 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:03.360 a good comparison. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.199 No, I don't think that's a good comparison at all. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.960 I think Jackson's really sharp, I do, and and his 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:16.120 his rise since the Senior Bowl, through his combine performance 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.880 and then through his pro day performance has been something 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.600 to watch. I think he has played himself into the 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.800 first round, potentially at number nine. You know, as much 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:31.040 as the kind of the aura has been lately around 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.240 Mickey and Kellen and and visiting all these quarterbacks in 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.000 their pro days, it really seems like that it's quite 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:44.520 a possibility. And now again, I still believe that theirs 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.040 will be a philosophy of best available, and when it 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.520 comes to nine, I don't know that at number nine 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.199 that that they're gonna believe that Jackson is the best 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.120 available on the board. He'll be the best quarterback available, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.600 I believe at that point. Right now, I think it's 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.679 cam Ward Jackson, Darter, I thinks Doors after that, then 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.800 I think it's Tyler Shuck probably somewhere in the in 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.719 the second round, and then from there it's uh, it's. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.640 It's McCord, it's Milrow, it's yours and Howard. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.440 They'll all be interchangeable somewhere in the third to fourth round. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.480 I don't see any of those guys probably falling outside 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.320 of the fifth round. I think that's probably the depth 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.280 of it. But I do think that Jackson would fit 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.320 Kellen Moore's offense. I think I've I've spent some time 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.319 with Jackson in the off seasons prior in Dallas to 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.400 at some quarterback camps. He's built just like Dak Prescott. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:40.960 Big uh. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.440 You know, he's got a strong lower half, throws with 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:49.960 a great base, runs just well enough, but it's strong 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.880 in the pocket. He I think what separates him as 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.720 a passer. He understands the different types of throws. You 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.280 saw this at at the Senior Bowl. The different types 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.040 of throws necessary the back shoulders, down the seam, or 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.880 when to stop a guy or I just think that 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.000 he has a next level of understanding of the type 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.160 of throws that are necessary. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.520 And it's not even just the understanding, but the ability 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:13.280 to pull it off. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.079 There's a lot of us, a lot of us felt 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.240 good about understanding the types of throws that we needed, 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.200 but we couldn't pull it off right. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:24.320 So I do think that he would fit. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.520 I think I think again, you look at his progression 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.560 and completion percentage went up every year that he was 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.720 in college. Touchdowns to interception ratio was beautiful all four 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.520 years in college, and so I think he would be 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.760 a fit for what Kevin Moore wants to do. Again, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.960 I think his comp is probably more along the lines 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.440 of adjailent Hurts that throws a little bit better. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:50.680 I don't see the Gardner. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.760 Minshew comp but but yeah, I think it would fit 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.040 quite well in a Black. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:57.440 And Gold UNI. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.880 Yeah, twenty nine touchdowns, only six centers receptions, so very 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.640 efficient this season alone. So you think that he is 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.080 going to go ahead of shedor Sanders because I I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:10.480 haven't seen that out there. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.320 Yeah, I do. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.360 And that's just from my perspective, I think, and and 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.040 Tim Hauselback said it this week. Uh, and I've said 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.080 it for several weeks now months even. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.640 Yeah, you were saying this at the combine, you were, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:32.320 I think, what's your door? 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.800 Lax is the high end physical talent to go in 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.360 the in the upper half of the first round. He 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:45.520 obviously was was very productive Jackson State, very productive at 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:52.920 at Colorado. When you're choosing a guy inside the top ten, Uh, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.440 it all has to match. I mean you got to 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.160 check every box. And somebody is going to say, well 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.480 what about Bryce, that's an outlier. I don't And even 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.400 though you would say well what about Bryce young, Nick 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.880 Saban would tell you he was the best, the quickest 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:14.200 guy on their team by far, And so there are 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.200 physical traits that have to match. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.400 And then you know, you get in trouble when you 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:20.920 just rely on physical traits. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.360 Okay, so let's look at the Indianapolis Colts and what 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.040 they're doing now after drafting a guy just all physical trades. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.560 He only had thirteen starts in college that they weren't 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.840 necessarily wildly productive. But he has traits that nobody else 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.400 on the planet has, and so they draft him at 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.720 number four or whatever it was. And so traits are 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:45.800 what gets you drafted in the first round trades plus 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.680 productivity or what gets you drafted in the top ten. Right, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.040 Shudur has productivity, but he doesn't have very many traits 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.120 that set you apart. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.040 I would say he has an average arm. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:57.960 And this is not me. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.400 I'm not trying to beraate him or talk bad about him. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.199 This is my what I believe when I turn on 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.479 the tape. I think that he anticipates very well, if 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.280 he sees the field very well. I think he understands progressions. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.919 I think he understands, you know, timing and rhythm and 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.320 throwing guys open. I think he understands all of that. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.679 But he's he's going to be limited in his ability 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.920 to escape. He's going to be limited in his ability 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.840 to affect the game with his legs in a gotta 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.919 have it moment where stuff breaks down, and he's going 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.560 to be limited in those things, and and uh, he's 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.240 going to be limited in what he can do pushing 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.600 the ball down the field. Lots of guys have been 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:44.720 very successful in the NFL that had those exact same limitations, right, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.359 Drew Brees with one of them. So that's not to 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.879 say that he can't be a very good pro or 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.480 even a Hall of Famer someday. But when we talk 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:57.080 about where a guy is going to get drafted and 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.879 and and the slot that he should be projected in, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.199 and all of it has to match up. You know, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.600 talk to coaches and say, when you draft a guy 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.520 in the top ten with your number one pick, you 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.720 expect him to wear a gold jacket one day. And 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.119 and most guys that wear gold jackets have some pretty 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.199 unique traits about themselves. And then some guys, you know, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.320 like Tom Brady, that didn't really have unique traits about it. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.000 His unique trait was just his his grit, his will, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.000 and his mindset right some the ice flowing through his veins. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.760 Those were his unique traits, but they weren't physical giftings. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.960 And so so yeah, I think there's some things that 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.800 when when it comes down to it, I might be 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.600 totally wrong, and I'll and I'll be the first to 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.640 call it out if I'm totally right, it won't be. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.840 Hard to see if he goes second in the draft. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.520 I would just say my for for for what I 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.879 look at and quarterback I think cam Woard obviously is 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:52.960 a clear cut number one. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.280 Jackson Dart I think provides more of that. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.560 The the the physical capabilities that you want to see 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.239 in a quarterback drafted inside the top ten, and then 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.639 I do will go in the latter half of the 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.880 first round, I believe. But but that's how. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:09.280 I see it. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:14.320 Colorado's pro day is April fourth. What kind of scene 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.719 is that going to be? 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:23.720 I can't imagine, you know there, Uh listen, Coach Prime 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:29.080 is is uh uh no stranger to uh doing it big, right, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.359 And so I expect it to. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.040 Be over the top and a lot of fun. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.440 And uh if you're a if you're a Colorado fan, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.359 it will be the awesomest day ever. 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.600 And if you're if you're you know, some of those 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.119 out there. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.600 That that that don't appreciate the fandom and what Coach 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:51.240 Prime has brought to Colorado and uh and and you 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.240 know kind of the the the vibe that's kind of 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.960 taking place over the last two years down there. Then 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.480 there'll be like, oh, it's just a dog and pony show, but. 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.080 Uh, listen, I'm here for it. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.960 It's it's the game of football is what we love. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.280 And the more attention on it, the better for everybody, 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:15.600 for coaches, for players, for our college athletes, and. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.879 Uh listen, I don't I don't want to. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.080 I don't want to ever uh lose sight of the 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:23.720 fact that these are these these opportunities come around for 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.320 these young men and They've been working for them for 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.119 their whole life. I'll never forget my pro day and 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.199 I'll you know, just the the how much fun it was. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.280 All these coaches are coming to see you like they 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.960 are all these gems. They're coming to watch you do 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.159 your thing. So go out and do it and enjoy it, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.400 live it up, have fun doing it, put your best 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.440 foot forward. And uh and then you know, go to 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.920 sleep at night and rest well knowing that. And I've 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:52.919 I've prepared my whole life for this moment right here, 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.840 and I'm getting the opportunity to do it. And if 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.359 it goes well and and uh and you know, you 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.600 up your draft stock even. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:05.520 Better for quarterbacks that have taken their teams deep into playoffs. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.080 You know you're looking at Ohio States Will Howard for instance. 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.199 How much does that play into their stock? 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.040 I go back and forth on that because, uh, you know, 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.560 when I came out, there was a guy named J. P. 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.280 Lowsman that got drafted in the first round. 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.200 Again, got a strong arm, but didn't have a whole 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:28.680 lot of production at at Tulane at the time as 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.080 far as wins and losses go, and and uh and 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.159 yet somehow jumped up into the first round. 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.960 And so uh you. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.639 You want a guy that has a record of winning, 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.760 like a guy that and this is why they look. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.800