1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty nine, the year Taylor was born. Just kidding, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty nine and it is eighteen years old. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Selena has two major record labels in a bidding war. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: So many offers on the table, a bitch got to 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: eat on the couch. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: First, she was approached by the head of EMI Latin, 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the just launch Latin music division of major British record 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: label EMI. 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: It was Selena's second time at the Tejano Music Awards, 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: and she cleaned house. She dazzled the crowd, and she 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: and the Dinos took home. 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Six honors, convinced that they had found the next Gloria 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Stefan Music executive Jose Bahar found Selena backstage signing autographs 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: and introduced himself as the head of EMI Latin, and 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Selena replied, yeah right, but Bihar was the real deal, 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: and he wasn't the only scout in the crowd. 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: The heads of Stony Music were in attendance too. They 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: were just as impressed with Selena, and their eventual offer 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: for her was twice as generous as emis for a. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Young musician who had been living on the road in 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: a converted bus with her family. This was the. 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Dream, But for any young artist, a decision like this 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: can also be treacherous. 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: I also think a lot about what it must have 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: been like for Abraham back then, right, Like he had 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: been in the music industry, but let's be honest, his 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: band did not have anywhere near the success that Selena 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and Losinos. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Were going to have. 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Contracts had to be hard. Like Abraham wasn't a lawyer, 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: he didn't have access to that. And I think about 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: how many times I've signed a contract that was not 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: in my best interest. How many times you hear about 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: musicians like even Taylor Swift, right, yeah, you think about 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: one of the biggest artists in the world that had 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: all of those resources, that had two parents, that probably 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: could have hired whoever, and she still feels like she 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: got royally screwed in these contracts because it's hard, it's 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: a business that is not in the artist's favor. It 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: can really make or break a career. I think, well, see, 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of how contracts work. 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they can make you until you think 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: you're something, and then when you tried to go off 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: on your own, that's where they have this contract because 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: they own you, but you do need each other. 46 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: One of the first like TV things I did. I 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: think I signed away the rights for them to use 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: my image in perpetuity. 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: No, no, Stu. 50 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you ever see a hologram of me 51 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: at a casino. 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: Gambling, you're like a casino girl. See and look, you're 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: smart and you know all this shit now. But like 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: they got you on your very first contract. 55 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Back then, they were like, we will pay you an extra. 56 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Then I was like, where do I sign? Where do 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I sign? 58 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: We'll see, and that's where something like this happens. 59 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Up until this point, Selena and her family had dealt 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: with small regional labels across Texas. This was a new 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: level of. 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: Business, and just as he had been throughout her whole 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: career up until now, Selena's father, Abraham was the one 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: in front of this decision. 65 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Around Corpus Christi and San Antonio. Abraham Keythinia had already 66 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: garnered a reputation for being iron willed and stubborn and 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: for his hair trigger temper. 68 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: Behar had his own reputation, perhaps making him an Abraham 69 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: a perfect match. Years later, Behar would say in an interview. 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Selena's father to this day says he signed with me 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: because I already had a reputation in the business for 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: being a little bit aggressive, especially in that region of 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the country. Although he tortured me for like five or 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: six months, making it like he didn't want to sign 75 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: with me, and all that he still tells me to 76 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: this day, he knew he would sign right away. 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: The day after the Tajano Music Awards, Abraham Caithania and 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: jose bahar hammered out a deal over breakfast. Selena would 79 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: be the first artist to sign to EMI Latin. 80 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: The reason was simple. Abraham believed Selena was a star, 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and EMI would let Selena attempt a crossover album. 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: But not without conditions. 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm your Hoe, Liliana Oscaz. 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio And This is Becoming an Icon. 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: how today's most famous Latin v stars have shaped pop culture. 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: And given the world some extra tuble. 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable. 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only. 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Way we know how, with when us, whenasriesas, and a 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: lot of opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: our journey to find out what makes them so iconic. 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Selena's very first album cover. Joseph. One 94 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: word to describe it? 95 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: Oh god, one word? Uh? Why I don't have any mark? Yeah? 96 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Question mark. It's just all so wrong, just everything about it, 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: and it just makes me sad, you know, just looking 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: at it. Do you don't want to buy that album? 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: It's such an odd presentation of who we know and 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: love as Selina Quintania. It's such an odd presentation of anybody. 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: Period, any human alive. I would say, but how would 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: you describe it? Like visually, what are you looking at? 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: It's very like Moroccan Arabian nights in the desert, Like 104 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: if a camel popped up, I would not be surprised. 105 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's. 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Wearing like a head wrap with big earrings and a 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: big necklace and like a bralatt and the skirt that's 108 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe like bautique print. Let me just be very very honest. 109 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: This is somebody at a label that has confused cultures 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: and was just like thinking, oh, she's exotic, she's Mexican, 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: and they're like, where have I been? That's exotic? I've 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: been to Morocco and they just are basically conflating anything exotic. Yeah, 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: they put into this buckets. The good news is it 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: didn't make sense to Selena either. 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: They hated the makeup, they hated the hair, they hated 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: the clothes, and Selena from the get was just not 117 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: happy with this. And the label did end up calling 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: this cover the worst they'd ever gotten, Like. 119 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: Literally the worst they'd ever gotten. It was the worst 120 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: that has ever been produced on planet Earth. 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: It was also their fault. Our Girl had nothing to 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: do with us. 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: Okay, that's no shade to the album itself. It was 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: a top performing debut that week on Billboard's Regional Mexican 125 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Albums Chart at number seventeen, our girls very first time 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: on the chart. 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: But the story of this cover tells you a lot 128 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: about the high expectations around Selena at this point and 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: all the competing pressures and conflicting visions creatively around her. 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: Apart from the lifelong pressure to support her family with 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: her art, Selena dealt with the pressure from the label. 132 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: The parent label for Emi Latin saw the new division 133 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: as a quote unquote gamble, so Bihar had to deliver 134 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and Emi had scoffed at Behar's claim that he had 135 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: found the next Gloria Estephon, telling him he had only 136 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: been in Texas for a week. 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Before the recording of Selena's major label debut was finished, 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Bihar and his fellow execs Stephen Finfer, had requested permission 139 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: for her to begin recording material for a crossover. 140 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Album aka The Whole Reason Abraham chose Emi over Sony, 141 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: but Emi insisted that Selena needed a bigger fan base 142 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in order for a crossover to be successful. 143 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: Behar alleges that Emi didn't believe a Mexican American woman 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: had crossover potential, and. 145 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: So the strategy was to follow through on the parent 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: label's expectation that Selena first dominate the Mexican and South 147 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: American markets before attempting the English language cross. 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: So but think about that for a minute. Selena ylos 149 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Dino's spent their whole childhood playing in shows in Texas. 150 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: Their dad raises them on the Tahano music of his youth. 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: They're listening to American pop. It's like what Abraham said 152 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: all over again. They have to be more Mexican than 153 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: Mexicans and more American than the Americans. I think any 154 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Latin person in the US who's ever had imposter syndrome knows. 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: This is literally the nightmare. 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: It's so true. It's exhausting to try to win at both. 157 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: But as a Selena fan, I will say that she 158 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: had the chops to do it right, like she had 159 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: the raw talent to do it. But if we've learned 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: anything through two seasons of becoming an icon, it's that 161 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: a lot of these icons had like five, six, seven, eight, nine, 162 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: ten albums before they had global success. 163 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Selena's brother ab expressed that the band couldn't take a failure, 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: that under performing would put them at the bottom of 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: the totem pool for the label. 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: And I totally get that you only get one shot 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: at this, but I think that's like scarcity mindset, and 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: he needed to really believe in the talent that Selena 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: and the band had, and I get it. As the 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: lead producer for the album, I'm sure Abe felt tons 171 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: of pressure right because Abraham had also stipulated that his 172 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: son would produce the first full length album. 173 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: If the record underperformed, the label would find a producer 174 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: of their own for the follow up, like do a 175 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: good job, or we'll find someone who can. 176 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: As fate would have it, Aby did do a good job. 177 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: The debut album featured plenty of the Tahano sounds Selena 178 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: Ilosinos had cut their teeth on, like Quirostad, which dominated 179 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: airways in Texas that year. 180 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: It also had some curveballs, like my love dance track 181 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: That's a Little Madonna a Little Gloriac. There was also Sukiyaki, 182 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: a Spanish cover of a Japanese pops from the sixties, 183 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: not My. 184 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Favorite's Gonna Lie, and the classic Besitos, which introduced Goumbia 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: to Selena and the band's repertoire. The track was the 186 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: first collaboration between AB and Pete Estubio, a songwriter AB 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: would frequently collaborate on as time went. 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: On, Was it synth Ritz and Cumbia ritmon Besitos pointed 189 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: the way for Selena and the band's creative future. 190 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: What I find so interesting about the association we have 191 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: with Selena's style of music, which is the Hano music 192 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: but also Gumbia music, is that in researching for this episode, 193 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: in my head, I always thought that Cumbia belonged to Mexicans. 194 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: Wait it does, Wait it doesn't. 195 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: So Gumbia is actually Colombian. It's their music. It was 196 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: brought to Mexico. I think, like in the nineteen forties, 197 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: and we kind of adopted it and obviously like added 198 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: our own style of instruments to it. 199 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: We borrowed it permanently. 200 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: All told, Selena was really happy with the album. She felt, 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: in her words, that all the hard work paid off. 202 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: And it did, Hannah. The album would peak at number 203 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: seven on Billboard's Regional Mexican Album chart, making Selena the 204 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: Dehanna to watch. 205 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: And it opened the door to touring across the Southwest 206 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: into Mexico and through the Midwest Washington and Florida. 207 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: We ain't in Texas anymore, Toto. 208 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Selena's success was a decent indication that EMI's quote unquote 209 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: gamble might just pay off. 210 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: Abe would remain the principal producer on the next album, 211 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: nineteen nineties Ven Gonemule, and. 212 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: Perhaps embolden by the success of her major label debut, 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Selena would begin taking some risks. 214 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Risks and looks and in love. 215 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety, Selena's second album, Then Gonnigle, gave us 216 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: the all time classic Bye Lastacumbia. 217 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: Bye La Baye lah is Tacumbia. I just love that song. 218 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Also, by the way, let's not forget gave us Selena 219 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: in a mohawk, and here to tell us all about 220 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: that look is a man sporting a mohawk himself at 221 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: the moment, Joseph, it's true. Do you want tell us 222 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: a little about it? 223 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: Yes. After the embarrassment of the last album cover, Selena 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: decided to be bold. The night before they shot the 225 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: new cover, Our girl had a punk rock makeover montage 226 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: moment and hacked her hair off. 227 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: We're talking jon Jet, needle drop, sink full of hair dye. 228 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: That's the vibe. Selena showed up to the shoot the 229 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: next day in a dyed black mohawk, and the label 230 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: was livid. They're trying to present Selena as a good 231 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: girl and she's over here looking red to smash a 232 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: freaking guitar. 233 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: Although the Dinos were still very much part of the equation, 234 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: Emi Latin was promoting Selena first and foremost. 235 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: And around this time Selena would start taking a bit 236 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: more ownership of her personal life. 237 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: It's time to talk about Chris. 238 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Selena's guitarist and eventual love interest, Chris Bettis would enter 239 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: the picture during the recording of ven Gunmigo in nineteen 240 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: eighty nine, Aby recruited him off his big reputation within 241 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: the Tano music scene. 242 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Lakintanias went to see him perform. Betez reciprocated, and after 243 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: seeing Selena and the band's chops, he was sold. 244 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: He loved the Dino sound, and on top of that, 245 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: he was excited to learn about musical arrangement from ab 246 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: I get Ce brothers. 247 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Beez introduced harder edge guitar work the Dinos sound, which 248 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: would turn out to be a crucial ingredient. 249 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: But Abraham wasn't crazy about his harder edged rocker look 250 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: and insisted that Betty's clean up to align with his 251 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: family friendly vision fors. 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Which makes Selena's jone jet moment all the more interesting. 253 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: At nineteen, Selena was an adult, but Abraham was still abrahaming. 254 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: And despite Beta's musical contributions, Abraham by all accounts, had 255 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: a skeptical eye on him from the jump. 256 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Abraham was afraid Peez would sing the band, but Petez 257 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: and ab formed a strong collaborative friendship, and the first 258 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: routs of that friendship came the same year he started 259 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: getting involved with the band. 260 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Selena would appear in a Coca Cola commercial in Mexico, 261 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: which b T dubs that's how you know you've made 262 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: it over there? 263 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a quick spot. Selena sings a little 264 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: jingle to camera and dances with a. 265 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Partner in a red dress given to her by Mexican 266 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: actress and singer Lucy Amendez. 267 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Which also tells you a little bit about Selena's growing 268 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: footprint be on the Texas border. Oh and the jingle itself, 269 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: it was composed by Aby and Chris. 270 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: After Selena shot the commercial, ab treated the band to 271 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: a vacation in a comple and that's where Selena and 272 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: Chris's romance blossomed. 273 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Chris did try to fight it at first, and not 274 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: just because he was being professional, but because he had 275 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: a girlfriend in San Antonio. 276 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: And the low it was arobi though on a few level, honey. 277 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: But Chris ultimately couldn't fight it, and neither could Selena. 278 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: So they confess their feelings for one another at the 279 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: most romantic spot in the San Antonio metropolitan area, where 280 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: over personal pan pizzas. Pizza hut, No, y'all, I'm kidding. 281 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know they had personal pant pizzas, But what 282 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: else are you eating? At Pizza Hut. Maybe the salad 283 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: bar I don't know, but whatever they were at pizza. 284 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: Hut, I was going to say, what was the oragor y'all, 285 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: Selena and Chris were eighteen and twenty when they met. 286 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: But it's such a teen romance. I mean a pizza hut. 287 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Come on, we know our girl loves a pizza. She 288 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: loves Pepperoni pizza. But right, imagine passing through to pick 289 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: up your favorite pie and seeing them huddle together at 290 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: a table over to Cox. You think, aw get cute 291 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: and head back to the parking lot. 292 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: You wouldn't think for a second that that was an 293 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: artist who was playing crowds up to sixty thousand people 294 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: by that. 295 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Point, well unless maybe you'd seen that coke. But point being, 296 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Selena's career was at an inflection point when Petez joined. 297 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: The record were selling, the fan base was growing, and 298 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: the band was branching out. 299 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Musically, and yet Abraham saw Chris as a threat. So, 300 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: to Selena's dismay, she and Chris would keep their relationship 301 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: a secret. 302 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: I can kind of see why Abraham feels like that, 303 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: where this person coming in. If he influences his daughter, 304 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: he can probably you know, she might side with him, 305 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: and that's just a natural threat. I would say, like 306 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: as a as a macho man. Right, we'll call it that. 307 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think saying I think using the word macho 308 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: here is kind of the perfect way to describe what's 309 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: going on. 310 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: Right. 311 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: You have Abraham who is very much like household, head 312 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: of musical group, head of everything in his head, and 313 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: to me, it's like a control thing, right. I think 314 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to control his daughter. I think he wanted 315 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: to control Selena the performer and exerting control over her 316 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: by telling her who she could and couldn't date. It's 317 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: just another way that he really wanted to kind of 318 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: like live out his vision for this family group. But 319 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, Selena was a teenager, Like teenagers are going 320 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: to do what teenagers do. 321 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. You know. Also, 322 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: the thing is is that she's just also so young 323 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: like and unfortunately he does see her as a meal 324 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: ticket and you can't fuck with with my money. 325 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: That's kind of the vibe that I get after having 326 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: read so much about the relationship. It was kind of like, 327 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be poor, I don't want to 328 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: be broke. My entire success, our entire livelihood as a 329 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: family is riding on the success of this band. And 330 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: you know, you throw in a curveball, and let's be honest. 331 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Chris did not have the best history, right. He had 332 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: had some like big party on the road. He had 333 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: had some kind of brush up with the law. There 334 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: were allegations of drug use, right, So he wasn't like 335 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: a straight and narrow right. He played the guitar, he 336 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: had long hair, all of these ideas of like what 337 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Abraham deemed, you know, not a good influence on his daughter. 338 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: He kind of possessed all of those things. But what's 339 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: crazy is that battle between Chris and Abraham. It went 340 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: on their entire relationship even after Selena passed away. You know, 341 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: the two of them have been battling for her since 342 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: the day they met. And I get it, like I'm 343 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: going to be I'm going to have opinions about who 344 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: my son ultimately wants to be with. But at the 345 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: end of the day, like we all know how that 346 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: turns out if you exert authority there, like they're going 347 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: to push and Selena pushed. In any case, Selena and 348 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: Chris would eventually be found out by Suzette midway through 349 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: a tour. 350 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I know you know Susette, So 351 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: tell her that I'm pissnoid with her that she narked 352 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: on her sister. Well, Selena's mother was approving of the relationship. 353 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: Abraham pulled Chris off the tour of us and told 354 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: him it's over. 355 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: But Selena and Chris continued dating in secret. You can't 356 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: stop love bus. Okay, and we can't confirm whether Selena 357 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: still had the mohawk at this point, but off the 358 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: energy is there. 359 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Just imagine she does have the mohawk for this next part, 360 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: because it's just better that way. 361 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm there, I'm there. 362 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: One day, Abraham again stops the bus. He stomps over 363 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: to where Selena and Chris are sitting and shouts again 364 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: that it's over, but Selena screams. 365 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Back at him, that's kind of big, Like maybe this 366 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: is about a little more than a secret relationship, like 367 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: that kind of big. 368 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Chris tries to mediate between the two until Abraham 369 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: calls him, quote unquote a cancer to the family. 370 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: Damn Abraham. Well, with Chris now in the fray, Abraham 371 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: threatens to disband Selena E Loosino's if the relationship continues, 372 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: that is so much drama. 373 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: Like you need to do least guys saw him. 374 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: I know the young lovers stand down, and Abraham fires 375 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Chris from the group. 376 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Abraham told Texas Monthly that he dropped the guitarist off 377 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: at a Waterburger parking lot and told him to find 378 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: his way home. Which that's harsh, but you could do 379 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: words and Waterburger. I love me a number seven, so 380 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: do I. 381 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: In the Texas Toast hits every time, so good A 382 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: breakfast Burger probably wouldn't ease the hurt of losing your 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: girlfriend and your job at the same time. But Chris, 384 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: by his account, had been exhausted from dealing with all 385 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: of Abraham's drama and moved back to San Antonio. 386 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: Selena, however, was devastated. The two would continue to try 387 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: to see each other whenever she was in the area, 388 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: in secret, of course, but this would. 389 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: Prove too hard for Selena, so one night she banged 390 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: on the door of his hotel room in Corpus Christy 391 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: and demanded he elope with her, And just. 392 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Like that, Selena and Chris, at twenty and twenty two, 393 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: were married, at the Nuess County Courthouse. Abraham initially took 394 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: the news badly, but eventually accepted their marriage and allowed 395 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: Chris back into the band. 396 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: Duh, Chris would say, in hindsight, I thought with great 397 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: certainty that remembering those marriage vows would always be a 398 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: sort of glue holding us. We had every intention of 399 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: living happily ever after. Nobody could stop us from doing 400 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: that now. 401 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: And these sure were Selena's crowning musical achievements were soon 402 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: to follow, starting with her bona fide breakthrough album. 403 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: If the test was for Selena to prove that she 404 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: had star power in Latin America, you could say she 405 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: had already passed. 406 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: With flying colors, Baila Estakumiya became a hit single in Mexico, 407 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: Her concerts were drawing crowds in the tens of thousands, 408 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: and we already told you about the Kogas. 409 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Selena Ilosino's continue to weave modern popin' dance tracks into 410 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: their albums, planting the seeds for that long awaited crossover. 411 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: But we can't talk about crossovers without talking about the 412 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: album that made Selena a bonafide. 413 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: Star, nineteen ninety two's Ententre Amimundo featuring Goma. But you 414 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: have to like whisper it. 415 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: I know. 416 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: She builds bitch, she doesn't give it to you right away, 417 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: she teases you. 418 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Chrees. 419 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: Gomla would become Selena's signature track, solidifying her star status 420 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: in Texas and Mexico. 421 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: The song tells a story of this woman and literally 422 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: my life seeing her ex with a new flame. Though painful, 423 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: she accepts the need to move on, comparing their past 424 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: love to a wilted rose. 425 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: Ultimately, she's glad to have loved and lost than to 426 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: never have loved at all. 427 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Me on good day brunch. 428 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: On the flip side, there's Gegrillaz where she tells off 429 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: a former lover, singing and I am translating here, what 430 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: did you think that you were going to find a 431 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: love greater than mine that would make you happier? Well, 432 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: now you know it's not so easy. 433 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: Me on an even better day at brunch. 434 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: We have definitely both been both of these songs, maybe 435 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: sometimes on the same day at the same brunch. 436 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: Truly, And that's the beauty of Selena on this album. 437 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: Lyrically to Hano music usually told tales of deceitle women 438 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: and male victim. 439 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Hed Selena flipped that script on its head, using the 440 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: genre to give voice to deeply felt female characters and 441 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: their experiences. Entremi Mundo exemplifies just how far Selena had 442 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: come as a vocalist, how far ab had come as 443 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: a songwriter, and how in sync the whole band had become. 444 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: The track list incorporates power pop, R and B, disco, rock, 445 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: and funk in the Tehano and Tejano cumbia sounds that 446 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: Selena and company had perfected over the years. 447 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: This is say Lena, This is her like everything about 448 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: this hits. The red lipsticks, the simplicity of the makeup, 449 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: the body yaddi yadi, the crop top, the hair on 450 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: her head being like wild and free. The font this 451 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: is the Selena font. When you think of Selena's name, 452 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: it is written in one font. She owned this font. 453 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: This is it yeah and in red hello. 454 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: And this album had banger after banger after banger. I 455 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: mean La Caracacca, but also like Las Cadna's Gomo La floor, 456 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: sila quiere is like there's a lot here. 457 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Unlike the self titled record, the Selena we see on 458 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: the album cover here is her own woman she's wearing 459 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: an outfit she designed herself. 460 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: An outfit that once again said Abraham's hair on end. 461 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: But by that point Selena had staked out her territory 462 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: and no one could argue. With the album. 463 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: Sales, Interramimundo fild fifty thousand copies in pre sale and 464 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: would peak at the number one spot on Billboard's Regional 465 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: Mexican Albums. 466 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Chart, dethroning one of the Hano music's long standing acts, 467 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: La Mafia, granting Selena her first certified gold album and 468 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: cementing Selena's status as the Queen of. 469 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: The huntm Interramimundo singles La Carcacca, Gomona Floor, tekre Jaz 470 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: and Amame would come to dominate airwaves in Texas. 471 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: And in Mexico. To boost the album, EMI Latin President 472 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Jose Bihar sent Selena on a press tour in Monterrey. 473 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: The Mexican press would call Selena an artist of the people, 474 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: and Comona Floor climbed the Mexican charts along with Intremimundo. 475 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: All throughout Texas, Selena played sold out shows, including a 476 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: record breaking show at the Houston Astrodome attended by nearly 477 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand people. 478 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: In Mexico. She was the standout of the Festival Acapulco 479 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, and she drew seventy thousand attendees to 480 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: her show at La Verria and then We Will Leon. 481 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: The same band that had struggled to get through the 482 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: door at the Hannel music venues throughout the Corpus Christi 483 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: area was now playing two massive crowds. 484 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: This incredible moment in Selena Elosdino's career would be immortalized 485 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: in their nineteen ninety three live album Selena Live. 486 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: If you are new to Selena, and what I mean 487 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: by new to Selena meaning you've never watched her performances, 488 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: you've only watched the movie or you've only listened to 489 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: the songs, I really encourage you to go back and 490 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: watch the videos of her live performances. There's two in 491 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: particular that for me are the moment where she's performing 492 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: Gomola floor and by les La Cumbia. I think that's 493 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: from the live album that performance, and then also when 494 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: she's at the Ferria Monterrey when she performs La Carcacca. 495 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: They are because any people confuse, kids confused j Loo's 496 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: performance of Selena, how dare they with Selena's actual performances. 497 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: You guys, she does these long, extended versions of the song. 498 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that she doesn't like have choreography. 499 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: She obviously does, but so much of it feels really 500 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: almost kind of like improvised. 501 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: No, she was just vibing out. And that's what I 502 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: think that people could see. 503 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: You look at the stage presence that she has in 504 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: these clips. She really was such an icon. Like it's 505 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: incredible to watch her and the band just takes their 506 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: cue from her, like they're gonna riff as long as 507 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: she's gonna dance and as long as the crowd is 508 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: loving it. She's there to serve one community only, and 509 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: that is every person in the audience. 510 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: That's it, and you see it, like watching these videos, 511 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, wow, like she just 512 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: feels at home. 513 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: She had it. Selena electrified the crowd with her vocals 514 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: and her charm. She had turned out to be every 515 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: bit a star as Abraham imagined back in his mentor's 516 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: record shop. On the next Becoming an Icon, Selena's rise 517 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: is cut tragically short. Becoming an Icon is presented by 518 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Sonoo and Iheart's Michael gudda podcast network. 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