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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Everybody, Thursday edition of The

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Lots of news to

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Speaker 1: break down for you today and just a matter of

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Speaker 1: weeks before decision day. Everybody, can you feel it? I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's feeling good. But we stay focused, we

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Speaker 1: stay frosty. We do not relent until the votes are

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Speaker 1: in and tabulated, and then perhaps celebration in some places

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Speaker 1: can begin. We've got a lot of stories today. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice plenty of time to go

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Speaker 1: chase down people for obstructing access to abortion clinics. You

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Speaker 1: can riot, you can loud, you can obstruct access to

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Speaker 1: anything in this country, it seems if you're a leftist.

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Speaker 1: But abortion clinics, for the bidendj are sacred. There are

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Speaker 1: special rules that apply if somebody has to walk around

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Speaker 1: you to get into one. Federal time. We'll discuss that

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Speaker 1: big story there. We've also got the crime issue, which

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are realizing is really hitting hard Wisconsin and

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Speaker 1: the Mandela Barnes versus Ron Johnson Senate race. We're seeing

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Speaker 1: a big shift in relation to this the same thing

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Clay, we're seeing this with doctor Oz and Fetterman.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Fetterman's a lunatic for a bunch of reasons.

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Speaker 1: On crime specifically, we will dive into some of that.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that I believe is settling into everybody's

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Speaker 1: minds today is we were all prepared for in the

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Speaker 1: aftermath of a horrific hurricane. I was just saying, a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine was posting Clay her she lives right

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Speaker 1: there on one of the house is gone, there is

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Speaker 1: no house, and where's posting video of this online? Just

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Speaker 1: to show people the devastation and to ask for donations

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Speaker 1: to the Florida Fund, etc. So it has been absolutely devastating.

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Speaker 1: It's a once in a certainly once in you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty forty years, maybe once in a century, powerful hurricane.

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Speaker 1: We were ready for them to say that not only

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Speaker 1: is Ron DeSantis doing a terrible job, meaning the lib media,

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Speaker 1: but it was his fault too in some capacity, right

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Speaker 1: because a climate change or whatever. The problem with that

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Speaker 1: is that so far, the response to this catastrophic event,

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Speaker 1: and our thoughts still go out to all of our

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Speaker 1: listeners in the state of Florida, who I know are

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Speaker 1: still dealing with this. We've been talking to our station

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Speaker 1: And here is Joe Biden. He was down in Florida

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Speaker 1: yesterday right after we finished this program saying, yeah, Ron's

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Speaker 1: getting it done. Well, if the governor's done, is pretty

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Speaker 1: remarkable he's done in terms of you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: you know, first of all, the biggest thing governs so

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Speaker 1: many others that they recognize this thing called global warming.

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Speaker 1: The world is changed. Okay, just put aside his his

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Speaker 1: you know, illiterate nonsense about global warming, Clay. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's photos. I think you saw this too. There was

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Speaker 1: one of the bridges that connected some of the barrier

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Speaker 1: a causeway. Causeway has been rebuilt already. Yeah. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is uh. When Joe Biden says that Ron DeSantis has

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Speaker 1: all these different television shows talking about what a remarkable

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Speaker 1: some of the DeSantis voters. And this effectively ended it. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 1: their fact checkers out, and they said, well, she didn't

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Speaker 1: state of emergency last Friday, September twenty third. This wasn't

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Speaker 1: about getting the job done, Clay. And the other thing

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Speaker 1: we've seen riot reporters in the past. We've seen if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna come at DeSantis, you better not miss because

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Speaker 1: the response, he's going to say, really explain how what

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Speaker 1: So the lies are much tougher with him to get

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Speaker 1: say some people say, oh, DeSantis has not been challenged

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Speaker 1: an absolute Donnie Brook between he and Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to how well the Santists

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Speaker 1: To your point about religious freedom, it does feel like

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Speaker 1: also compounded by the fact that what we're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: There is also a free speech violation when you've got

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Speaker 1: government trying to core somebody to do something that violence

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Speaker 1: not only their religious beliefs, but also is compelled speech.

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Speaker 1: The compelled speech doctrine under the First Amendment subjects to

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Speaker 1: what they're doing here. So it's a hybrid right, it's

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Speaker 1: a compound right, and it's one that I don't think

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Speaker 1: But it is really discouraging and should be alarming to everyone,

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Speaker 1: their religious beliefs. Generally, your last question for you here,

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Speaker 1: of different arenas there. I don't know how closely. You've

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Speaker 1: from a marketplace of ideas perspective, building off the question

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Speaker 1: What should it look like if we're going to embrace

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Speaker 1: disclaimer upfront. I sometimes suffer from unfettered exuberance, especially where

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is involved. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a complete game changer if when he finally completes this transaction,

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Speaker 1: and I and surely hope that he does, I think

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Speaker 1: you'll see a number of changes immediately. Number one, I

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Speaker 1: think you'll start to see the disappearance of bots, or

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Speaker 1: their ideas without people being shadow band trottled or otherwise

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Speaker 1: philosophical beliefs. And I think what will happen will be

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Speaker 1: a net gain for humanity, a net gain for Twitter users,

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Speaker 1: and a net gain for the American people is they

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Speaker 1: can have fair conversations. To be frank, that hasn't been

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Speaker 1: happening on Twitter. It hasn't been happening on Facebook and

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Speaker 1: of an open public form. Senator Lee, where should folks

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Speaker 1: go to help out in your reelection? Which is a

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Speaker 1: race people need to actually be active in. Yes, thank you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is a close race. My opponent's claiming it's within

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Speaker 1: Your contribution, even if it's just five or ten dollars,

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Speaker 1: be greatly appreciated Senator Mike Lee. Everybody, Senator, thanks for

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Speaker 1: Clay is a Russia collusion truther, left wing hack posing

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Speaker 1: disingenuous it is. Speaking of slimy and disingenuous, how about

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Speaker 1: So that's what matters. Okay, his whole alway stand on principle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mitt was also marching with Black Lives Matter. Don't don't

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Speaker 1: slash b u c K. Welcome back Clay An Buck here.

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Speaker 1: You know we're gonna be joined by our friend Jesse

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Speaker 1: taking taking off his ascot, his top hat and monocle

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Speaker 1: after the tequila fiasco, and he will be joining us

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Speaker 1: here on the Clay Ann Buck Show. But we will

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Speaker 1: get to him tomorrow. Congressman Ted Bud is with us

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Speaker 1: now from North Carolina. He is in a very important

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Speaker 1: Senate race there. Congresson Bud, thanks for calling in. Glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you all. We're traveling all across North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making time. This is a tight race here

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Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I appreciate all your viewers are your

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Speaker 1: listeners paying attention to it. And anyway, we got thirty

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Speaker 1: three days to go and we're gonna run hard. And

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Speaker 1: you know so visit is a statistical margin of air

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Speaker 1: we're a couple of points ahead, but look, I don't

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest issue that you're hearing on the ground.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking with Mike Lee from Utah and

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Speaker 1: he said the number one thing he's hearing is inflation. Inflation, inflation.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina obviously has become kind of a bellweather state

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Speaker 1: for how the nation may well go. For people who

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Speaker 1: election night, thirty three days from you from now, when

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Speaker 1: we expect for you to be winning that seat. What

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Speaker 1: are people talking about in your state? What's the focus? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's inflation, for sure, that's the number one issue, but

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Speaker 1: it's closely followed by crime and education. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: we talk about inflation, I mean it's not a bar

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Speaker 1: graphs and pie charts. It's people talking about how do

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Speaker 1: they put groceries on their table and gas in their tank.

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Speaker 1: This week and last month, they were parents were trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to afford back to school clothes

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Speaker 1: for their kids. You know, it just gets worse. And

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Speaker 1: now we're looking at power bills going up this winter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a crisis for folks that are We're

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Speaker 1: just starting to get traction under the previous president. Now

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Speaker 1: under Joe Biden, you know, it's the train wreck. And

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Speaker 1: my opponent, Cherry Beasley, would be she would double down

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Speaker 1: on those policies. She would help subsidize eighty seven thousand

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Speaker 1: more i RS agents and rich people buying Tesla's, but

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Speaker 1: she won't help do anything to lower your power bill

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Speaker 1: or your gas bill. So it's breaking people's hearts here

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Speaker 1: and breaking their banks here in North Carolina. And when

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Speaker 1: it comes to crime, I mean what sheriffs and law

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Speaker 1: enforcements coming up to me all around the state and

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Speaker 1: they're saying, every single county in North Carolina is now

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Speaker 1: Ted Bud, he is running for Senate in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He's currently a congressman there. You know, the Biden economy

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Speaker 1: fortunes up to this point, and a good reason. What

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Speaker 1: has I mean inflation for the folks in your state,

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Speaker 1: how bad is it and what are some of the

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Speaker 1: stories you're hearing about its impacts. Well, you know, our

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Speaker 1: to one hundred billion dollars a year. I just left

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Speaker 1: and people with different farm organizations, and at the very end,

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Speaker 1: Farmer's Award for my work in Congress to support them.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to energy, you know what feels

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Speaker 1: like pain at the pump for all of us. It's

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Speaker 1: also even more painful if you're driving a truck or

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Speaker 1: it's more and more expensive. And it's the policies that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden did by shutting down the Keystone Pipeline, shutting

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Speaker 1: off energy production here in the US and now going

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Speaker 1: over to Saudi Arabia and begging for fuel and then

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Speaker 1: you know, and they say, no, we're gonna cut it

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Speaker 1: by two million barrels a day. And then he goes

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Speaker 1: to Venezuela and said, by the way, I know you're

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Speaker 1: hostile to the US, but we're gonna ease sanctions on

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Speaker 1: you all who hate the US, and we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: to do more business with it. It's completely backwards. And

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Speaker 1: you know, while that's foreign policy, it all matters at

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Speaker 1: the pump, it all matters in Wallace here in North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: and it's hurting people right here across the state. We're

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Speaker 1: I believe you went to app State for undergrad. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, this is not going to be a

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Speaker 1: serious gotcha question. But I'm curious. Were you watching the

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Speaker 1: right now, and if so, how did you celebrate? You know,

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Speaker 1: we celebrated. It was it was down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: I've got lots of friends and you know those in

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Speaker 1: Congress that are that were calling me and congratulating me.

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Speaker 1: They were heartbroken, of course, but way to go to

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Speaker 1: the Mountaineers. We're very proud of them. They've got such

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Speaker 1: they're such a powerhouse. And my degree is worth even

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Speaker 1: more now than it was back then. But they've done

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Speaker 1: such a great job at app State, and of course

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Speaker 1: back then we called it Appalachian State, but there's still

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Speaker 1: the Mountaineers, and I'm very proud of him. I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of the Mountaineers. To Clay. They got the big win

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Speaker 1: over Michigan, one of the greatest upsets in the history

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Speaker 1: of college football. Pluck couldn't believe it when it happened.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is a joke. I took

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Speaker 1: him for the first time congressman to a college football game.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, closing out

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Speaker 1: we're into October holiday season, I hate to bring it up.

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Speaker 1: You're probably starting to already see the Christmas celebrations. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: I hope you got the Halloween decorations. Do you do

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Speaker 1: anything Buck in your apartment for the holiday season? Like

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Speaker 1: your own Christmas tree? Like? Did you do any holiday

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Speaker 1: related decorations as a single man living in New York City. Well,

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Speaker 1: got a mini Christmas tree for like twenty bucks off

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Speaker 1: have any ornaments for it. Yeah, so it just looked

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Speaker 1: my apartment. It wasn't It would probably would have been

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Speaker 1: better to go treeless. In retrospect, we are ready for Halloween.

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Speaker 1: My wife goes all in for Halloween and we have

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Speaker 1: started to put all of the Halloween decorations out. But

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Speaker 1: are you dressing up? Are you going Cobra Kai this year?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? I think I can say what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be. The whole family's dressing up together. We're

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Speaker 1: going as the nineteen nineties starting five of the Chicago Bulls.

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Speaker 1: So for anybody out there who remembers the Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: wife are also going to be Chicago Bulls. So we

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Speaker 1: of Chicago Bulls. Wife's decision good one for her, but

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Speaker 1: you know they skip over. We go all in on

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Speaker 1: Halloween there's not necessarily a lot of Thanksgiving lated the festivities,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Thanksgiving itself, but in terms of like

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Speaker 1: the other day and they've already got all the Christmas

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Speaker 1: stuff up. So what I'm pointing out here is I

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Speaker 1: A lot of you are going to be on the road,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what he said here, but I

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Speaker 1: was going to play this. We've got Jesse Kelly on yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The fallout of him ordering seventy five dollars tequila shots continues,

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Speaker 1: and I guess he was taking shots on us on

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Speaker 1: his show yesterday. Let's see what he said. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: cut off. I'm gonna go on their show on Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's already lined up. I'm gonna go on their show

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Speaker 1: two thirty pm Eastern Time on Friday, and it's go time.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say is it's go time. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go defend my honor. And yes, okay, I

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Speaker 1: had an old fashion. That doesn't change the tequila accusations.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, I mean Jesse's very tall. So

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of Cobra Kai Clay, just remember, sweep

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Speaker 1: the leg you know you get tall guy, you got

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Speaker 1: to go for the legs. Such a good show, Such

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Speaker 1: a good show. Jesse will be on with us tomorrow

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Speaker 1: trying to defend the indefensible. But I would encourage you

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Speaker 1: to tune into two thirty and here how he can

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Speaker 1: defend seventy five dollars tequila shots. Quite the diva behavior.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say, Kamala Harris esque side chick behavior by

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly out on the rooftop of the Peninsula Hotel,

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Speaker 1: New York City. So I have a legal I have

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Speaker 1: a legal conundrum for you. This all for me, okay.

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Speaker 1: So there was on the field football on the football field, Yes,

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Speaker 1: there was an activist who was tackled. Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what was the activist even I think. I

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Speaker 1: think it's these animal rights people. I think are just

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Speaker 1: obsessively going onto the field and courts. Yea animal rights

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Speaker 1: active is tackled by a Los Angeles Rams linebacker Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 1: Protester has been identified as Alex Taylor ran onto the

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Speaker 1: this ram rammed him, took him down, tackle him the ground,

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Speaker 1: and now he is claiming that that is assault. Ye.

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Speaker 1: What I think is interesting is you know when you

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Speaker 1: see these guys, I do you remember that. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a red Bull commercial where the guy's naked

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Speaker 1: and he runs out of Wimbledon and they're like, and

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Speaker 1: he's off like a bull with gas. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: sort of this Remember that commercial? You guys remember that

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Speaker 1: there's this thing about And I actually remember, I believe

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Speaker 1: it or not. I was at a Yankees game a long,

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Speaker 1: long long time ago when I used to do these things,

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Speaker 1: and I remember a guy ran in the field and

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Speaker 1: and the stadium went wild over this, right like it

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Speaker 1: almost was kind of part and then eventually got tackled

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Speaker 1: by five guys. But on what are the legal react

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Speaker 1: Like if someone jumps on your football field, you're a

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Speaker 1: player and you lay hands on them, You're not defending yourself.

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Speaker 1: So are you making a citizens arrest? Like? How does

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Speaker 1: this work. I don't know the answer because I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there's that many comparable situations. My wife, when

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Speaker 1: I saw this happen, I was watching it and she said, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get sued. Now. I think one reason the guy.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I can't imagine very many juries.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say this, were it to go to a jury,

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Speaker 1: by a player, a football player in the game. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine very many juries are going to be sympathetic

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Speaker 1: towards him. But I think he probably wants the attention

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Speaker 1: of filing the lawsuit because remember Buck, the general rule

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Speaker 1: was this never goes on air when somebody runs on

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Speaker 1: the because people want to get attention they run on

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Speaker 1: the field. They don't show them on traditional tells. They

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Speaker 1: don't want to encourage it. It's like associating with terrorists. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but the problem is now everybody's got phones in the stadium,

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Speaker 1: so whenever anybody runs on the field, it goes by

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Speaker 1: because there's so many different people who can do it.

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Speaker 1: I think as a legal question feels really interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: It's a good legal as a legal question is interesting

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Speaker 1: because I mean, everyone, this stuff can be very serious everyone.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Monica Sellis, who was really the number

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Speaker 1: the time. This was back maybe the early nineties or

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Speaker 1: Lady Trees, had some straight up maniac run out and

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Speaker 1: but stabbed her with a knife. There was no security,

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Speaker 1: so people took the whole jumping on the field thing

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Speaker 1: or jumping on the court very differently after that. But

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Speaker 1: I do wonder I mean, okay, I mean to get

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Speaker 1: to the legal realities of tackling like a streaker, which

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Speaker 1: is a whole other thing, right because you're getting real close.

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Speaker 1: But if you tackle a streaker and your security guard,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's in your professional capacity to defend that space.

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Speaker 1: But if you are a player, I mean, what would

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Speaker 1: happen if somebody jumped on the field naked or not,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, we'll make it clothed, jumps on the field

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Speaker 1: and is making a run for it, and one of

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Speaker 1: these NFL guys who are you know, incredibly strong and

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Speaker 1: Knocks him out cold. Is that is that legal? Or

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Speaker 1: is that an assault? I think that's an assault, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's pretty clear. So how different

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Speaker 1: is the tackling from the punching. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: am very anti this kind of behavior, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: wondering how the statutory framework applies here. And obviously you

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Speaker 1: the law school hypothetical. It's actually a great law school

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Speaker 1: hypothetical because I even argue Buck that the story would

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Speaker 1: be different if he were naked, because if he's naked,

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Speaker 1: you're clear that he's unarmed and so not theoretically much

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Speaker 1: of a danger to a football player. But also the

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Speaker 1: football player laying this guy out actually assists security in

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Speaker 1: being able to do their job. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the law of California, which is I believe where

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Speaker 1: going to be criminal charges brought related to this incident,

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Speaker 1: but the guy has filed a civil claim I believe

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Speaker 1: against the guy who the player, Bobby Wagner, who tackled him.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I would, you know, if I

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Speaker 1: were giving legal advice I would tell players not to

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Speaker 1: tackle the guys running on the field unless they get

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Speaker 1: approached and they feel like they're actually in danger themselves.

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Speaker 1: But that was crazy, and I think it's becoming even

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Speaker 1: more encouraged because it goes on the Internet and the

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Speaker 1: name becomes even more pronounced, because even if television doesn't

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Speaker 1: show you, the internet of it being viral gets more attention.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, the fact that he was laid out by

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Speaker 1: a football player made that actually a bigger story than

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Speaker 1: it otherwise would have been if he just gotten tackled

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Speaker 1: by a security Do we even know what the animal

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Speaker 1: rights activists what is this like anti fur trade or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're you know, the one

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Speaker 1: person glued themselves to the basketball court or attempted to

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Speaker 1: do it. And I can't even keep up with what

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Speaker 1: these animals, but one, but they decided that this is

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Speaker 1: the best way to get attention for whatever their political

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Speaker 1: call or your beball skills. By the way, you play

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Speaker 1: little hoops, Clay, you got a jump shot played? I

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Speaker 1: was okay back in the day. You know I played.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you ask I played full court against twelve

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Speaker 1: year olds with other dads on Sunday with basketball season.

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're Achilles, You're Achilles. Tendon was saying, how

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Speaker 1: che All the dads said when we finished is if

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Speaker 1: there's no injuries, it's a successful game. Sure, full court.

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Speaker 1: I haven't hadn't day used to have at my grammar

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Speaker 1: school parents versus coaches basketball game. There were torn ac

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Speaker 1: there were broken legs, there were achilles snapping. Gotta make

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Speaker 1: sure you warm up, folks. You get to you get

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Speaker 1: to be Clay's age and things. Ten starts with falling part.

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Speaker 1: I was just happy not to get injured. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. We did a big whiffleball game, same thing.

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Speaker 1: The kids were striking us out like crazy, but nobody

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Speaker 1: was injured.