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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. We got some baseball to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Me and James are gonna go through the games,

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Speaker 1: the most interesting things we saw, and then kind of

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Speaker 1: every week, I think towards the end of the week,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about just trying to project the Mets

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Speaker 1: twenty six man roster come opening day. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of spots available, there's a lot of moving pieces,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys are performing really well, so it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation. Hope you guys enjoy it. Before you

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Speaker 1: drops a review, download and subscribe. James. A lot of

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Speaker 1: really good things going on in Mets Camp. I know

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Speaker 1: people kind of tune out a little bit for spring training.

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Speaker 1: The games don't necessarily matter, but some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing, and particularly a friend of the podcast

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Speaker 1: here we've on. I mean, I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 1: about these guys.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about Daniel Murphy doing the games, well, of course,

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Speaker 2: talking about our boy Dan Murphy doing the games.

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Speaker 1: Did a great job over there. I think that'll be

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Speaker 1: a good passing of the torch maybe one day from

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Speaker 1: Keith to Dan. But uh, Ryan Lambert, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the guy I really want to talk about. I know

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Speaker 1: that's the show, Ryan Lamber. I'm starting to show Ryan Lambert.

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Speaker 1: I'm planting my flag. We have to talk about him.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be my bold claim. He just makes

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Speaker 1: the opening day roster out of camp, all right, I

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Speaker 1: think there's no way that happens, but this should do it.

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Speaker 1: Do it.

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Speaker 2: It's impossible not to be just super excited by Ryan

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Speaker 2: Lambert right now. Like what he did on Monday against

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays backups, minor leaguers mostly for sure, he

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Speaker 2: had some of the nastiest stuff I've like ever seen

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Speaker 2: from relief pitcher.

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Speaker 1: He was like breaking these pitch models that people had.

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Speaker 1: His stuff was out of His fastball might just might

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Speaker 1: just be the best fastball in Major league baseball right now.

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Speaker 1: If he was at the major league level. Legitimately, the

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Speaker 1: the what's what's the word I'm looking for besides like

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Speaker 1: not using ivy B, but basically the ivy B that

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Speaker 1: he gets with the velo to the carriage, the lift,

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Speaker 1: it the it doesn't exist. You just don't see that

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Speaker 1: almost ever. And it looks like the secondary pitchers are

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Speaker 1: coming along too, which that's what will take him from

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Speaker 1: being just a power arm to being a legit reliever,

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Speaker 1: totally nerd stuff.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Lambert was sitting ninety eight miles now with his

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Speaker 2: fastball and he averaged twenty one and a half inches

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Speaker 2: of indus vertical break and he got up to twenty three,

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Speaker 2: which his number you basically never ever see, and Lambert doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He has a pretty high arm slop. He doesn't have

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Speaker 2: like he kind of looked like like Adrix Munio was

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Speaker 2: like a little bit. And the thing about Lambert that's

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Speaker 2: through the miners last year getting to double A is

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Speaker 2: that he struggled to throw strikes. He was just I

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Speaker 2: think he kind of said, fuck it, I'm throwing down

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Speaker 2: really couldn't do anything about it. He struck out the side.

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Speaker 2: side like it was other domination. Like it was the

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Speaker 2: point where there was a full slate of spring training

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Speaker 2: games going on. Of course locked into the Mets, but

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Speaker 2: the creators from all the other teams were like, who

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Speaker 2: is this Ryan Lambert to it? Like prospect people were

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Speaker 2: talking about him. Pitching nerves were talking about him, Relief

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Speaker 2: pitching people, fancy baseball lion Sey leagues were talking about him.

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Speaker 1: Everyone there was.

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Speaker 2: There was a coalescing moment a Monday afternoon where the

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Speaker 1: That was beautiful. Shout out his agent, Michael Big, shout

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Speaker 1: out to him, got him on the podcast. He got

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Speaker 1: us Ryan. He was texting me all the time during

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Speaker 1: his relief thing. It's just it's exciting to see someone

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Speaker 2: Shout out his mom. Every time I tweet about Ryan.

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Speaker 2: She likes the tweets, especially whenever I tweeted about the

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Speaker 2: fact that me Mark and Ryan made the deal when

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Speaker 2: he was on the show two summers ago that we

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Speaker 2: got to drink raw eggs together.

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Speaker 1: When he reaches the major leagues, would you rather raw

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Speaker 1: eggs be on a cold day or a warm day?

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Speaker 1: Because that's the conversation we're gonna have now it's happening

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Speaker 1: this year. Warm day one hundred percent. Really, I think

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Speaker 1: cold day might be better. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: may sweaty and warm drinking eggs we're gonna have.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have to rely on you to bring

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Speaker 2: the eggs from Queens because I think me coming from Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: it's just more time for the eggs to warm up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I gotta bus twenty minutes to city

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Speaker 1: Field dropping me up. Oh yeah, bus right from my apartment,

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Speaker 2: And again, as we start to talk about these conversations

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Speaker 2: of when like building this Mets opening day roster, Lambert

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Speaker 2: will not be on it unless he, like unless he's

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Speaker 2: like a seventy percent strike out rate in the spring.

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess that's the only way that can happen.

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Speaker 2: But he just he's still behind some other guys. Was

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Speaker 2: forty man clock. His needs to be added to the

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Speaker 2: forty man roster until the end of this next season

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Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Just double checking me on that

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Speaker 2: December twenty seven, So guys like Dylan Ross is ahead

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Speaker 2: just he's it's probably not going to be him, but

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Speaker 2: I think this is this just kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing I'll say about him, because people want

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Speaker 1: to actually hear about guys probably on the major league

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Speaker 1: roster for opening day. If there's not many pictures that

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Speaker 1: just yet. But that's the weird conversation. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: he still obviously can go down this year. It's not

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Speaker 1: Cour So, as you mentioned, no reason to start his

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Speaker 2: Definitely, and last year he's still the thirteen percent walker

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Speaker 2: see that again. You gotta see that, like it was

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Speaker 2: a forty percent strikeout rate. If he brought those exact

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Speaker 2: the best relievers in the whole show. But just to

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe he's still working on the splinker like he

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Speaker 2: told us a few years ago, and I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: Could still come out. It's just whenever that happens.

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Speaker 2: It was just fun though, for the whole world to

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Speaker 2: be focused on Ryan Lambert, and there's also some good

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Speaker 2: things we can draw from all of these spring training games.

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Speaker 2: One of the big things is just a way the

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Speaker 2: before we even talk about guys performance. So that game

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Speaker 2: on Monday, we went to Toronto's facility, a road game.

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Speaker 2: Send the road players, he said, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: What's always interesting though, I was talking about this with

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Speaker 1: So it's like you almost want your good pictures going

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think purposefully here, like Clay Holmes got

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Speaker 1: Pitches that is this last spring trade too.

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Speaker 2: Remember that's like that's horseshit right there, Like that's a

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Speaker 2: we want Clay Holmes to be eighty five by the

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Speaker 2: again that if he's get sitting forty now like that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love what the Mets are doing in terms

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Speaker 1: gonna go to WBC, so I'm sure that's part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why he gonna be Either Yeah, he might be.

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Speaker 1: He might be their chat innings either the WBC. Just

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Speaker 1: Commercia come out there and get people, slam in the

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Speaker 1: ball into the ground, get some quick outs. But that

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Speaker 1: Monday game, I just loved everything on the pitching side

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Speaker 1: again going there, the way that Clay Holmes pushed pitched.

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Speaker 1: I know that he gave up that bomb to Kazuma

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Speaker 1: or Cosmo Okamoto, who I'm all over for Rookie of

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Speaker 1: plus six hundred that's free. But it was cool to

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really solid year again

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Tobias Myers now getting to see

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Speaker 1: that he looks a lot. You mentioned it earlier in

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Speaker 1: grab him. You're like, that's just the world. He might

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Speaker 2: I mean as I just I think there's a wide

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Speaker 2: cool about Myers is that the fastball seemed to play up.

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Speaker 2: He was breaking off more curve balls again his spring training.

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Speaker 2: For everybody, including Baseball savat right now, Yes, guys mix

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Speaker 2: new pitches or a different movement on their pitches. A

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Speaker 2: for the kinks to be worked out there.

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Speaker 1: But he had curveball. He threw a splither.

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Speaker 2: I think he was not I think he threw none

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Speaker 1: What you said, Jackson, I saw the name Ray. I

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Speaker 2: much better at defense than what brand Nemo gave them

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Speaker 1: It's very obvious that the Mets are trying to improve defensively,

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Speaker 1: It's like a good stake. You gotta let it rest,

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Speaker 1: It feels Christian Yelich like where you're gonna get great

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Speaker 2: He didn't look great, but I see that happen also.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird like flip script of how previous

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Speaker 1: spring trainings have felt, where a lot of familiar faces,

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Speaker 1: we kind of know what's going on, and we're just

436
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Speaker 1: looking at the new superstars basically over the last few

437
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Speaker 1: off seasons that came in. Where now we're looking at

438
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Speaker 1: all the role players and in a crazy one of

439
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Speaker 1: the crazyt sittings I'm ever gonna say, it's like almost

440
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Speaker 1: a little more fun to see like these random guys

441
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Speaker 1: because like we just know wansor do we know Franciscolendor.

442
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Speaker 1: They were gonna be good, all those guys brought in.

443
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Speaker 1: Now we're starting to find out what we're doing in

444
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Speaker 1: in the player development. We've heard so much about the pitching,

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Speaker 1: but seeing it coming on the hitting side, that's the

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Speaker 1: really fun part for me. Well that's the thing.

447
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Speaker 2: We've never had really particularly good or deep farm systems.

448
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Speaker 2: Like the last time I remember this much joining the

449
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Speaker 2: spring train, I mean last year it was fun watching

450
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Speaker 2: like it was funny exciting to watch like Jet Williams

451
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Speaker 2: yang out spring training, but like the Pete spring training

452
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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen is the last time I had this

453
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Speaker 2: kind of like whoa, Yes, this is fun to watch,

454
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Speaker 2: and like just knowing that these guys all have decent

455
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Speaker 2: runways to five major league roles sooner rather than lay there,

456
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Speaker 2: it's fun to see. Also interesting note from the Wednesday

457
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Speaker 2: game again, Mark Fiantis has not played third base.

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Speaker 1: He played first base. He will not play third base

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: He can't look great defensively at first either. Christian Royo

461
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Speaker 2: actually played there if he do, Bruhan played short and

462
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Speaker 2: that dude, this he's still so fast. I can't believe

463
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Speaker 2: how fast he is. And I don't know if he's good,

464
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Speaker 2: but he's fast, definitely. I don't know if he's good,

465
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Speaker 2: he's definitely fast. And Clifford has looked good at first

466
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Speaker 2: base a few times in these last couple of games,

467
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Speaker 2: coming into the games like.

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Speaker 1: Great double played in the game home looking like Keith.

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Speaker 2: Murph talked about him getting off the bag because we

470
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Speaker 2: haven't had the lefty first basement in a while, so

471
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Speaker 2: it's easy to forget the differences between lefty and righty

472
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Speaker 2: first base and how that stretch looks.

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Speaker 1: Was the last I Davis or James Loney lonely for sure?

474
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Speaker 1: Or was Adrian Gonzalez lefty? He actually might have, sneaky

475
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Speaker 1: been the last left handed first baseman the Mets have had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's lefty. Yeah, of course he was lefty. Wow, that

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Speaker 1: might have the EW twenty eighteen. That might be the

478
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Speaker 1: last time the Mets had a lefty first baseman. I mean, we.

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Speaker 2: Definitely someone fill in, Like when Pete busts his wrist right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a look. I'm gonna look at some

481
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Speaker 1: teams here. Yeah, who did that first? But like and

482
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Speaker 1: then we've taken a long time talk about it. But

483
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Speaker 1: we also saw a great stuff what Tom Smith? Tom Smith?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course Jack Wenninger, Now we know it's Wenninger. Wenninger,

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Speaker 2: Wenninger and Joanan Tong great things talk about both of them.

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Speaker 1: Wenninger, dude looks like a pro. He looks like again,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you can clarify. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's like a front line starter. I don't know

489
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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be like ever reached that a status.

490
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Speaker 1: But he just seems like he's gonna be a really

491
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Speaker 1: good pitcher, one of those guys that like every rotation needs.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be a solid piece. He's got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of pitches, throws in the mid to upper nineties. I'd

494
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Speaker 1: like everything that I'm seeing out of him. Again, another

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Speaker 1: guy who I'm gonna say I think has a pretty

496
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Speaker 1: high floor.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's I want to see a guy like Wendinger.

498
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Speaker 2: How much he's changed since being draft and even since

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Speaker 2: having success last year when we talked about him at

500
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Speaker 2: the mid season point last year when he got think

501
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Speaker 2: made at least my top ten Mets prospects. We saw

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Speaker 2: velocity up in this spring start. We saw the fastball

503
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Speaker 2: sitting around ninety five, which is eighteen inches of iv B,

504
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Speaker 2: which is from a higher arms loss doesn't have as

505
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Speaker 2: much life from gods to lower slots. But still I

506
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Speaker 2: say that's at least an average fastball from where he

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Speaker 2: grows it. And again we saw it sitt ninety five

508
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Speaker 2: in the spring. So if you're sitting ninety five in

509
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Speaker 2: the spring, you're probably going to get tick too ticks

510
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Speaker 2: by the time we get to midsummer when you really

511
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Speaker 2: get going on that. We saw a lot of the splitter,

512
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Speaker 2: which is his nasty pitch. That was a with pitch

513
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Speaker 2: like there was a while on the Baseball savonn game

514
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Speaker 2: leader board on Tuesday where he had the most whiffs

515
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Speaker 2: of any pitcher who pitched in the league. I was like,

516
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Speaker 2: that's nice to see. We saw the sinker, we saw

517
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Speaker 2: the slyder, and last year he had a spike curve.

518
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Speaker 2: This was reports from Baseball America that he was throwing

519
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Speaker 2: this tight curveball that was kind of playing off his

520
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Speaker 2: tight color that he used to kind of jam together

521
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Speaker 2: his color and his sweeper had this like ty Giro slider.

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Speaker 2: He threw a totally different curve in this game, two

523
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Speaker 2: plane action. It seemed like something that was like maybe

524
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Speaker 2: the same sweeper intent but had more drop on it

525
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Speaker 2: from a grip. Change's not sure about. That was totally

526
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Speaker 2: new pitch. So the fact that there's still this active

527
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Speaker 2: tinkering the velocity is holding like he just has a

528
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Speaker 2: lot of weapons. And Gary and Murph were both marveling

529
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Speaker 2: at the way he was able to sequence those secondaries

530
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Speaker 2: as a younger guy who hasn't had that much experience,

531
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Speaker 2: not a ton of major league hitters and that Cardinals lineup,

532
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Speaker 2: but that Astros line up on Tuesday, but he looked

533
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Speaker 2: very in control of varying commands. He had guys on base,

534
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Speaker 2: he worked around them, he got swings and misses like

535
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Speaker 2: he was super in control of a game, could use

536
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Speaker 2: any of his pitches, geang swings and misses.

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Speaker 1: With all of them. Really really loved what I saw there.

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Speaker 1: I think was it Lance that made a video recently,

539
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Speaker 1: Lance Barstowski about how the sweeper is like kind of

540
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Speaker 1: now losing some popularity, that it because it's being overdone.

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Speaker 1: Something that like a curveball used to be twelve to six,

542
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Speaker 1: but then there was also kind of a more two

543
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Speaker 1: planey curveball. And I think that's about for sure now

544
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Speaker 1: that weirdly might play really well because everyone's so looking

545
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Speaker 1: for the sweeper. Everything sweeps, everything's going horizontal, we're having

546
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Speaker 1: the two planes there could really add some depth for

547
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Speaker 1: a guy like winninger, where getting that pitch over and

548
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Speaker 1: being able to get some chase, get some swing and miss,

549
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Speaker 1: even generate some ground balls probably on a pitch like that,

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Speaker 1: I think that could be huge for him. Like that's

551
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Speaker 1: that might It's funny baseball such a trendy sport. We

552
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Speaker 1: might now see people going back to the curve ball

553
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Speaker 1: that worked for so long because the sweeper is getting

554
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Speaker 1: so overplayed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what the last five years of baseball

556
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Speaker 2: it looked like when the Astros kind of figured everything out,

557
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Speaker 2: like everyone needs these high riding fastballs. Then you have

558
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Speaker 2: guys who don't really with their arm slot and just

559
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Speaker 2: really shouldn't be throwing high riding fastballs. I know, we

560
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Speaker 2: have to go back to two seamers, back to the sinkers,

561
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Speaker 2: and everyone's throwing sweeper. All these guys who probably don't

562
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Speaker 2: have the right supernation and pronation throw with sweeper. They're

563
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Speaker 2: throwing sweepers. Oh, we gotta get off that. Like find

564
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Speaker 2: your change ups, finder splid there, just find your curve balls,

565
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Speaker 2: like it always changes every single pitchers.

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Speaker 1: You gotta find what works for them.

567
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Speaker 2: But the fact that Wenninger has this many things, the

568
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Speaker 2: fact that he was keeping them in the zone so much,

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Speaker 2: the fact that the velosity was good, Like it's I

570
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Speaker 2: really like that I see from Winninger. He he probably

571
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Speaker 2: gets a shot at some point this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. But the only reason is is

573
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Speaker 1: just that there's a long line in front of him

574
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Speaker 1: right now, and I'm gonna say line. But everyone has

575
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Speaker 1: been questions. I hope we have the really difficult decision

576
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Speaker 1: of if he needs if he should get a look,

577
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Speaker 1: and it's because he's pitching so well that you have

578
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Speaker 1: to consider it. But also at the same time, if

579
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Speaker 1: he's pitching, there's probably a lot of injuries and that's

580
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Speaker 1: not gonna be good for this team.

581
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Speaker 2: Sure, but also is the thing where he hasn't gotten

582
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Speaker 2: to triple A yet, so we hasn't used that ball yet.

583
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Speaker 2: So it's getting nice to see his stuff still pop

584
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Speaker 2: in the models and his movements still look good, even

585
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Speaker 2: better in some places with the new baseball.

586
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Speaker 1: That's always a fear. Yeah. I also loved what we

587
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Speaker 1: saw from Jonah Tonk today. I know the final slash

588
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: line got a little like murky or whatever, but the

589
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Speaker 1: fact that, yeah, the fact that he was throwing that

590
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Speaker 1: cutter as much as he was, and then hearing him

591
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Speaker 1: after the game talk about how he needs live game

592
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Speaker 1: feedback basically on that cutter. Like at times it looked great,

593
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Speaker 1: at times it didn't look good. That's what's gonna happen

594
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Speaker 1: when you're learning a new pitch. But as we said,

595
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Speaker 1: we saw so much improvement from this kid over the

596
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Speaker 1: last two years. He has a sponge and it seems

597
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Speaker 1: like right now him, just and Willard are getting to

598
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Speaker 1: work hard on trying to find that pitch that moves

599
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Speaker 1: glove side. The fact that it looks like this already

600
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Speaker 1: and he's using it in game and we're seeing some

601
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Speaker 1: success that makes me unbelievably excited for Jonah Tong because

602
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Speaker 1: if he gets that, he's just gonna be.

603
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Speaker 2: A front line storry. He's gonna be an ace one

604
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Speaker 2: hundred percent. And the thing with Tongue is that again

605
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Speaker 2: he's like, I need to throw this pitch.

606
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Speaker 1: He spammed that pitch.

607
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Speaker 2: He threw eighteen I think eighteen colors and fifty total pitches,

608
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Speaker 2: thirty six percent average, ninety to one and a half

609
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Speaker 2: miles an hour, fifteen inches of lift induce phytical break,

610
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Speaker 2: which was a lot. It's a fun shape, so he

611
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Speaker 2: could he couldn't get He couldn't consistently get that glove

612
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Speaker 2: side movement. He couldn't do it like sometimes it's just

613
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Speaker 2: kind of sat or kind of spun and favored. That's

614
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Speaker 2: a little bit what happened to the one that Gorman

615
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Speaker 2: hit out. The center fields also got helped a bit

616
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Speaker 2: by the wind. The biggest thing that tong has said

617
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Speaker 2: about this new pitch, he has to throw it in

618
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Speaker 2: the zone, and he was throwing in the zone. He

619
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Speaker 2: got his hall strikes on it had a sixty one

620
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Speaker 2: percent in zone rate that I think is a big

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Speaker 2: key for him.

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Speaker 1: But again it's just from his slot.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be difficult from the find that consistency

624
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Speaker 2: of getting that pitch to consistently go to the left.

625
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Speaker 2: But I mean, this is the first time he ever

626
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Speaker 2: threw it a game. Not a bad thing. And we

627
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Speaker 2: can talk about the curve yes, good talk about the curveballs.

628
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Speaker 1: Curveball is great. Curveball's great, moving a little bit differently

629
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Speaker 1: the last year. And I think the biggest thing and

630
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Speaker 1: something that we've talked about in this podcast before, with

631
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Speaker 1: that it was too slow. Too slow being that it

632
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Speaker 1: was just you could see it out of the hand

633
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't that the pitch wasn't good, just when

634
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Speaker 1: you have that difference in ve low sometimes that big

635
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Speaker 1: of a difference can make a pitch a little bit

636
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say predictable, that's not the right word,

637
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Speaker 1: but easy to pick up. You can see it and

638
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: with tong because it was such a slow curveball and

639
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: it humped so much. It did seem like hitters were

640
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: never fooled by it last year, and that was something

641
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: we like, you can get away with that at double

642
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Speaker 1: A and triple A, but once you get to the

643
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Speaker 1: major league level, they're like, snipper body, come on, like

644
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Speaker 1: I can catch up to ninety seven. Doesn't matter how

645
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Speaker 1: good your fastball is. That curveball is easy to tell.

646
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Speaker 2: Also, last year that curveball was very like pronounced it

647
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Speaker 2: had like sixteen seventeen inches of drops and negative sixteen

648
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Speaker 2: inches very coal break. This one was like negative three,

649
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: negative four.

650
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: So again, it's.

651
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: Coming entire I think some people are talking about the

652
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: fact that it might be a death ball. Slider shape

653
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: is when you kind of just really rip the gyro

654
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: slider and do it.

655
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, if you can throw a

656
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: slider at his arm angle, just know like that seems

657
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: like such an impossible pitch for him to throw because

658
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: you have to you have to get side of the slider.

659
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: He's naturally on top of everything.

660
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: So again that I mean that probably is how we

661
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: so coming down in the curveball. But he's I mean,

662
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch him tinker. I really, I don't know.

663
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: I just kind of trust he's going to be able

664
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: to figure it out. The fact that he's this opens

665
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: to these new pitches, it seems like also coming out

666
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: already with this new stuff. It's nice about the pairing

667
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: of him and Willard. We know Willard's whole thing is

668
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: nasty stuff in the zone, so he's trying to do

669
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: some more nasty things in his zone. I think he's

670
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: still not getting swings and missus though Tongue they weren't

671
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: missing that fastball.

672
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: It's still hard.

673
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: He has to throw that fastball lower because if he's

674
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: aiming that fastball higher where the pitch will perform better,

675
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: if anything's coming below the belt, they're going to know SEASPI,

676
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: they're going to spit. That's what happened that Rangers start

677
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: last year where he got blown up, but they never swung.

678
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: They just they didn't swing.

679
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, So right now he's trying to kind of tunnel

680
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: all of these off the fastball. So he's trying to

681
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: catch pickoff strikes low with the fastball. But then to

682
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: do that you have to get swings and misses with

683
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: other stuff, and the other stuff is not not swing

684
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: and missing yet because if from that angle he ever

685
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: gets that tunneling down, he is going to be disgusting.

686
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like almost impossible to hit him consistently.

687
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Bam and your savage.

688
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah man, when we saw what you savage, we did

689
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: wound his little run.

690
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just it's fun to watch his tinkering.

691
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: It's why spring training is great. Don't care so much

692
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: about the results this process.

693
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: That was very fun.

694
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: Also, two other guys that want to shout out because

695
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: they're not going to be in the bullpen opening day,

696
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: but I definitely think both these guys are in the

697
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: bullpen in June. Jonathan Pintaro, that's your boy. He again,

698
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: he's getting hit kind of hard. But like every time

699
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: I watch a pitch, I'm like, it's a fun looking pitch.

700
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: I like that you're high on him because I'm of.

701
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: The camp medium and I'm higher than you. But I

702
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: think he can't be a major.

703
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: League believer for sure. I'm of the camp of like

704
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: I understand what the vision is. We've in the time

705
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: that I've seen him pitch, it's just never worked. That's

706
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. For sure, we got to

707
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: get there. But also a.

708
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ah advert yeah, as Alzla got into the game

709
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. His slily was his primary pitch, as it

710
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: was years ago when he was still healthy and everything

711
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: went good. I think he's going to be a long

712
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: road back. We're confirmed that he will not be on

713
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: the opening day roster.

714
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: That's fair.

715
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: Daviston said that he has to get hot in triple A.

716
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: But like fun, let I mean, let let the all

717
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: of these bullpen guys work themselves out. And Murphy had

718
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: a good point talking about on the broadcast that a

719
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: lot of the guys in this bullpen, not even a

720
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: lot of the guys were projected to make the bullpen.

721
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: There's just a there's a wealth of closing experience now

722
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: in this pen. Yes, so with Devin Williams, Luke Weaver

723
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: has closed, Luis Carcia has like twenty saves on his resume.

724
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: Kimberl is like one of the greatest closers ever.

725
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: Gary firmly stamping Hall of Fame closer Greig Gamble today

726
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: on the broadcast.

727
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: I mean, as that's a guy, right, there's bass Gary,

728
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: Gary and Murph for talking about bad money halftime shower.

729
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: I can't I can't believe that that was that was

730
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: amazing to hear. But it's just it does seem like

731
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: a few more of those guys been broad in And

732
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: of course als Lad was a closer for a few years.

733
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: Lambert was a decorated SEC closer. Like there's just there's

734
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: a lot more closer vibes from a lot of these

735
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: guys right now, which I mean closer are the best

736
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: reliever usually so, or at least the guy with the

737
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: biggest balls.

738
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: Yes, and what did our bullpen not really have that

739
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 1: much last year ball? So I'm interested in seeing some

740
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: balls from the guys other.

741
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: Quick things, and we're gonna do our fast when we

742
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: got out of here. A twenty six man roster preview.

743
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Brett Baty's going to get into games soon. I think

744
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: his first appearance they said would be out first base,

745
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: and who will play him outfield? So it's just he's

746
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Brett bay Is becoming a super utility man. Was never

747
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: on my radar, but I guess.

748
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: It's Brett Beatty becoming Jeff McNeil was never on my radar.

749
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: He's like fun loving Jeff McNeil. He's like the anti

750
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil. He and last year every single game he

751
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: would like be too happy er Jeff McNeil, jeffic getissed.

752
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Haad love Jeff. But if Jeff McNeil had the battle

753
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: ball look that Brett Baidy have. I think Jeff McNeil

754
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: might assault somebody, might might have choked slammed Antoine Richardson.

755
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Last year, aj Minter is still behind where he was

756
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: believed to be, he said, a month behind. Everybody in camp.

757
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: The word is they hope he gets into a Grapefruit

758
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: League game. I'm beginning to be grateful if we see

759
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: him in the first half.

760
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get where I'm putting him on Jed

761
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Lowry watch right now, official watch. I don't know if

762
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: he ever plays again. That's it.

763
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: And then the last thing, Francisco Lindor got his stitches

764
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: out and they said that he could put a glove,

765
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: probably like by the end of this week, early next.

766
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Week, which that's such a funny update.

767
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna see him hitting lefty within four

768
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: day's probably.

769
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's he.

770
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: He might try to get to the World Baseball Classic

771
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: of p a knockout. That's not a conversation, No, no, no,

772
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 2: We're going to see Fredday Pralta pitch on Friday. We're

773
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna see Nolan McLain on Thursday. Everything's funder now, A

774
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: lot of good things going on.

775
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: God, I love baseball. I'm so happy it's back. I've

776
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: been glued to spring training every single day. It's amazing.

777
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Since now the Olympics are over, it's nice to have

778
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: sports at one pm.

779
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like real sports, like baseball. All right, quick pass

780
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: through twenty six man roster. You're ready? Okay, Uh, let's

781
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: let's go over the guarantees, right yep, so Wan Soto,

782
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pulling up the roster ron Soo Francisco lidoor. Well,

783
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: I guess he's technically not a guarantee for the opening date.

784
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Technicclusion, you got not a guarantee.

785
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco Marcus Simeon, Francisco, did you hear Murphy's knowing

786
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: about Polanco too? What do you say I missed it?

787
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: He said that.

788
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: I think it was just pregame or maybe we're in

789
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: the first inning. Say, been watching Planco in the backfields?

790
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Looks great at first base.

791
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear that. Daniel Murphy also made the

792
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: switch from second base to first base, just saying a

793
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: lot to say there, So I lost track? How many

794
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: were we at? All? Right?

795
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: Wan So though, Bobachhet, Joge Polanco, Marcus Emion, Brett Batty,

796
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Francisco Alvarez, Luis Robert Yep, that's seven. Why did I

797
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: not go to the fifth finger?

798
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: Yea? What do you doing?

799
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: It was seven? That was seven? Seven okay? Freddie Peralta

800
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: eight yep. Nolan McLain, David Peterson, Clay Holmes, Sean and

801
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Iakoda Sanga if healthy?

802
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: So that puts us at that was six plus seven thirteen.

803
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh I thought we were yeah, yeah, thirteen.

804
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Okay, the mess up boys try to count to that one.

805
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: We've got Devin Williams fourteen, Luke Weaver fifteen, Brooks Raley sixteen,

806
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: Luise Carcia seventeen, Tobias Myers eighteen. I think that's of

807
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: super firm eighteen. I think Louise Torrenz.

808
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Nineteen is definitely on the team.

809
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: Mark Fiano's will be on the team if he's on

810
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: the roster twenty so right now we have to project

811
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: him and Tyrone Taylor twenty one. So that leaves us

812
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: a right few technically, or an outfielder, whether it be

813
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Carson Benz or Mike Talkman, and that leaves us two

814
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: bullpen spots, and.

815
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I do think I still think it's gonna be Wasscar

816
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Brasobon is one of them, right, surely just because he

817
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: just he just has the option. Yeah, but I don't

818
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: know if you start him in the minors.

819
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Like we haven't seen Brian Hudson yet, who we acquired

820
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: from the White Sox was with the Brewers. He's not

821
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: optionable because if he doesn't make the team, we lose him.

822
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: All the all the other choices that I'm seeing, Like,

823
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: I guess Kimberl could theoretically on the bras Obon spot

824
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: again because he doesn't have the option.

825
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: Those seem to be the two. My boy, Austin Warren

826
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: is still looking good. I'm an Austin bel Siker sweeper option. Yeah,

827
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: so that's fine, he will be in the triple A bullpen.

828
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: But it's kind of Kimberl and Mike Bauman do not

829
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: have options, no, and they're pretty much fighting for the

830
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: Brasobon spot. Like if they show any sort of life,

831
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I think they probably make it out of opening day,

832
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: but are also the first to be cut.

833
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: It's those two it's Brian Hudson's Brazo bond for those two.

834
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Bull spots, and then on the bench and also right field.

835
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm still a believer that it's gonna be Mike Talkman

836
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: over bench. Bench looks great. It's nothing against him. It

837
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: just seems like they got Talkman for this exact reason

838
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: of let let bench have to be out of control

839
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: good and Talkman also is playing well right now, so Talkman,

840
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I think, would be that last guy. It's not gonna

841
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: be Ronnie. There's no shot Ronnie's on the opening day roster.

842
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie had the moment.

843
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: I think it was two days ago. So we's gonna

844
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: talkbout Ronie. Ronnie had a blast.

845
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's this, This the Ronnie Mauricio funding game.

846
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: The next inning, he forgot how many outs there were,

847
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: which two playing shortstuf. That's not not as strong. That's

848
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna be.

849
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Cluff looks nice. I'm locked in on club.

850
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Did you did you see the tweet from Jackson Cluff

851
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: how they said that he was the super soaker at

852
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: b YU and he replied with the little sas meme

853
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: where which for the Twitter game alone. I'm in on

854
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: Jackson Cluff, Nah, Jack, I would never.

855
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: I would not expect the Mormons to have a good

856
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Twitter game, but I'm happy Cluff does.

857
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's.

858
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: A I don't know, but why why don't you think

859
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: it would be Ronnie if Francis Scool Indoor is not

860
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: ready opening day?

861
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: Because how long does Francis School Indoor have to not

862
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: be He has to be not ready for a month.

863
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I know.

864
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Speaker 2: I think even it's just like four or five days,

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Speaker 2: so I think you can preserve that service time. He

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Speaker 2: won't burn the option of Ronnie's only up for four days.

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Speaker 2: We also don't really know if he can like actually

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Speaker 2: play short stop. The fact that he played there with

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Speaker 2: a group of starters makes me think that they at

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Speaker 2: least want to give him the shot to do it.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday the home spring training game. Baschet Leoff, I mean,

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Speaker 2: not Lef, it's it's Simeon. It's so though it's Bashett

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Speaker 2: one two three, Mariso is playing short Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I see it as they

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Speaker 1: want him to crush triple A and that's a break

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Speaker 1: glass in case use.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess it probably just does wind up, especially

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Speaker 2: because do you think Bruhan's.

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Speaker 1: A better defender short than Ronnie. I don't know anything

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Speaker 1: Bruhan at shortstop. Truthfully, he has no options, So if

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Speaker 1: they don't keep him up, he's gone, and I gotta

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Speaker 1: imagine that he's gonna get a look. I think it's

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Speaker 1: really between him and Jackson Cloff truthfully, alright, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Not that I prefer Ronnie Marisio. I want that to

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Speaker 1: be very known. Ronny Maurrisso is the best player I

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Speaker 1: have of all these guys were mentioning, I guess Greg

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Speaker 1: Kessinger two is up for that possible spot, which like,

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Speaker 1: who cares, But so Christian Royal. Maybe Christian roy was

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Speaker 1: playing thirty, he hasn't been playing short. Okay, that's big then.

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Speaker 2: So again, so as of right now, you still think

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Speaker 2: it'll be Brasubon and then you had to pick the

892
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Speaker 2: one reliever to make the team, Hudson Kimbrel or.

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Speaker 1: Mike Bowman. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually say brass Band

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Speaker 1: starts in triple A because I think they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: that was gonna be my take. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do two with the guys with no options. I think

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Speaker 1: Hudson's on this team. As long as he pitches and

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Speaker 1: looks decent, I think he's gonna be on the team.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm just gonna give it to Kimbrell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think he'll be Hudson.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be Kimberl Browse Abond triple A talkman

902
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: in right field and the bench, Tyrone Taylor being the

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Speaker 2: fourth outfielder with Fianto's being the right handed.

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Speaker 1: Ben and and maybe yeah, it's probably gotta be Crough

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Speaker 1: because you you kind of need a left handed bat

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Speaker 1: on the bench, or like Jared Young's, maybe that last

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Speaker 1: spot if Jackson Cluff is starting at shortstop, which is

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But you can't.

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Speaker 2: Can you have Mark Fiandos and Jared Young on one roster?

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Speaker 1: You could, I guess, but you don't really.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if baby Baby is the backup

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Speaker 2: and fielder, then yeah, it's bad, like this baby can't

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Speaker 2: DH on opening day?

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Speaker 1: Who isn't Day Blanco? Maybe Boba shit, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's not Mark Fiento's. He's not

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Speaker 1: going up against Paul Skins, No fucking way, no, no shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's fun.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll try to do this every single week

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Speaker 2: and see how close we can get.

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Speaker 1: Unless they go Ronnie DH and they're like Ryan's are

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Speaker 1: DH for a lot of the year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you're talking about lefty bat, I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say, there's no really a better lefty bat that's accessible.

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Speaker 2: If it's not going to be Carson, Benja, Brett Bady

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Speaker 2: is going to be in the field, it's Ronnie. He's

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Speaker 2: the next best lefty bat. I mean, Jared Young probably could.

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Speaker 1: Be a good lefty bat. Like Jared Young hits the

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Speaker 1: ball quite hard. Yeah, he has an option, he does.

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Speaker 2: But that's why it's hard to hold Jared Young and

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Speaker 2: Mark Fiano's in the same major league roster as we

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Speaker 2: saw last year.

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Speaker 1: Agreed that part is true. It's just a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys with no defensive value hanging out to I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, I'm not gonna carry either way who that

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Speaker 1: last spot is. Like, I hope Francisco indoors on the

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Speaker 1: opening day roster, and then it's really easy put whoever

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Speaker 1: the fuck you want in that last spot. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: even Melendez to have that spot, honestly. Yeah, cool, that's

939
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Speaker 1: fine with me.

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Speaker 2: That's another good left handed bat. But it's gonna be

941
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. Also, have you looked at how

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Speaker 2: many left handed position players. It seems like we've just

943
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Speaker 2: signed as their nrys. It's like all of them left handed.

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Speaker 1: Look look look.

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Speaker 2: At their yeah, look at their batting, look at their

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Speaker 2: NRI position players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, there's I mean, all the outfielders are lefty.

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Speaker 1: Everybody every other position is like righty, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Chris Ware got in the game catching on Wednesday to

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Speaker 2: a ballplayer. Yeah, all those outfields are lefty bats besides Pache,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess they all the outfielders are. That is

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Speaker 1: a good point. I didn't even consider that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jose Ramos isn't but you know, yeah, as first basement

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Speaker 1: and he plays outfield too though, Yeah, he just does

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Speaker 1: basement and yeah, I guess that's it, right. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much it really dense conversation for forty minutes. To God,

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Speaker 1: we have flow state. I love what we do this

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Speaker 1: but just fun, that's it. Thank you as for listening,

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