WEBVTT - Ep 65: Bear Grease [Render] - Whitetail Antlers, Underground dogs, and Bucking Mules 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:16.560 M My name is Clay and Nucleman. This is a 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.680 production of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.160 where we render down, dive deeper, and looked behind the 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.280 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.800 So Josh is now like the audio bad boy of 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.920 the bear Grease podcast. I gotta rep now got a 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.360 you got you got priors. Well, he got reprimanded. He 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:02.600 got reprimanded for fidgeting, heavy breed, drinking on the podcast. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.880 Not alcoholic drinks, non alcoholic drinks, but drinking on the podcast. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.480 And then and so we were texting Josh. You know, Okay, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.520 here's here's the thing that we all do, and we 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.800 all know it when you actually need to talk to 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.319 someone about something serious and you turn it into like 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:18.960 a little bit of a joke. You're doing a bit. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.640 Yeah you see what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like rather 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.800 than like call Josh and like front him, yeah, just 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:30.119 like which is to be Britt Reeves says that who's 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:36.759 never anyone in his life. I was like, hey, stop, 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.120 so we so, so we send a text thread and 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:47.160 we're liked, h your bad, you need to watch. I'm 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.280 just saying no, no. So after a couple of joking 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.000 text messages about the heavy breathing, then it was like, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.639 Josh is really this is how we create a villain. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:02.880 He's he's adjusting that mike to briefe directly into it. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.360 I'd like to bring up a point like the chairs 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:10.160 provided are very noisy, Like is that our ads ambiance? 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.520 I mean, it's not like we're sitting in a recording studio. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.120 It's your lay has attacked Josh. Josh has now attacked back. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.080 He says, this is not a recording studio. Wow, that 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:27.000 really hurts my feeling, he said, he said, King, Yeah, 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.760 he did it in a joke style. So what if 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.760 you after this, like Clay, I know you think this 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.880 is a recording studio, it's not. You think that all 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.040 the taxidermy deadens the sound, but it doesn't took that 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.280 bear out of here, This thing that sounds like an echo. Chack. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.519 Wonder I wonder whether like resonance would be if you 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.399 removed every bear hide from here, it would be It's 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.920 definitely it's seriously echoe it was when he first moved in. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.840 But now with all the bear hides and the first 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.560 the first absorble lotour five, six, seven, eight, eight bear hides, 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:02.320 a full deer hide of mountain hawks, eighteen coon hides 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.000 of mountain line. Did you say mountain a black panther shoulder, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:12.760 mount black panther shoulder, mount bear chaps? Does it really? Well? 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.360 Welcome to the bear grea surrender guys. I'm very excited 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.960 about today's podcast. I want to just pitch this in 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.200 right here at the front so that everybody will know 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.360 August second through the fourth, this podcast comes out on 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.440 the third of two. There's time left. There's time left. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.480 There's a big season opener sale for First Light, f 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.000 h J gear, Pelps, the game calls and all the 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.760 meat Eater brands and basically I'm not gonna go through 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.240 all the exact stuff, but if there was ever time 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.880 to buy a first Light gear, it's now big sales 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.720 on everything that they've got. Also with Phelps there's some 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.040 stuff that's even off with the first Light. Um. Phelps 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.520 is having a big, big sale. Their bugle that has 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.960 the built in diaphragm is revolutionizing. ELK call I mean 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.040 you know, typically, Josh, you use a like a turkey 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.320 type die forragm call and then you blow through a 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.720 bugle tube and it takes a little bit of a 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.400 little bit of practice to blow it. Is there a 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.640 video where I can see that used, like in a 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.200 home shopping network type of Yes, and Texas. There happens 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.760 to be two gentlemen that I just I met him 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.160 just briefly. Uh, clud Nucomb and brag Reaves that made 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.040 a little video at a gas station with tex come back, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.640 we got some work for you. Just first, let you 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.960 have any bootcut pants for Isaac? Oh, no, I wish. Hey, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.800 what would you say to a guy who says I 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.120 like to buy my stuff at the last minute and 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.800 at full price? Like is this a good opportunity for them? No? 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.799 If that guy would need to wait to the fifth 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.599 of August? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, like roll the dice. I 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.360 don't know if it's going to show up in time, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.120 wait until wait if I was like okay, cool, but 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.080 if you want if you want a good deal stuff, yeah, 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.000 and to get it in plenty of time for the season. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.600 Now is the Times season openers sale? Very well? You know? 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.960 And look how our main man here is dressed and overalls. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.279 This is kind of like done lap stole right here. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.080 You know, this is this is aneated. This is all 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.320 high tech stuff yourself and this is all you need 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.200 is overalls, right and I go to attitude and perfect balance. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.240 I have all those on white teeth, and you wear 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.440 quite a bit at first leg all the time. Well, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.479 we're just begging them to make us some overalls. Cut 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.760 that out. I got it. Don't cut it out. I 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.600 don't cut it out. If I get in trouble, I'm 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.960 gonna blame you, though you got the last render. So 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.359 we always every now and then describe are the structure 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.120 of our podcast for anyone who Every other week we 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.080 have the Bargeras Render, which is where we gather up 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.480 a group of people to talk about the real Bargeras, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.720 which is our documentary style podcast, which we do every 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.200 other week. So we produce a weekly podcast. So this 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.960 week on the Render, we are going to be talking 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.960 about our gas station tax Jeremy road show podcast. Very fun, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.440 it was very entertaining. Oh Man, me and Isaac when 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.839 we kind of built this idea and I built this 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.520 idea means I called Isaac and was like, this is 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.600 what I'm gonna do, and he was like, great idea. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.839 But it just means a lot when he's like, great idea. 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:23.560 Do it. So when we built this podcast, I was like, yes, man, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.640 I was like, this is uh, this is gonna be good. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:33.200 Why is that dog barking? Tessar, I can't take dogs barking, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:39.440 he says that, and they're always barking. So I was 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.840 excited about this because it was just a different style 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.760 of podcasts and we've ever done it. Was it was, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.360 but it was a lot of fun. It was primarily 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.640 in the field content. We had two feature guests, one 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.960 of which was Missy Nukeam and was JP Shreef, who 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.520 couldn't be here. He was gonna come, but he wasn't 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.039 able to, but so we're gonna talk about that a 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.800 little bit later. Fascinating character. I've met him before, Old J. B. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.000 Shrieve Introductions. We're gonna go counterclockwise this time. To my right, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:14.800 Josh Landbridge, Spillmaker, Josh still as the Beargrease Audio bad 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.480 Boy himself, Josh Billmaker, Gary Nucomb to his right, Gary, 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.560 how you been man? Excellent? Excellent? You got a lot 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.760 to say on this podcast, you know, I can't wait. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:30.240 You gotta tear bubbling over. Good. Good to your right, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.200 Missy knucom great to see Misty. You know I've said 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.200 a lot. I think I have about an average amount 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.480 of think. Great to You're right. Isaac Neil, Assistant producer, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.400 Assistant to the producer of the Bear Grease podcast. Yes, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.600 great to have you, Thank you. I kind of missed 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:53.000 the bootcut jeans and cowboy boots. Well, I was at 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.080 you went full revers a lot. I was at a 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.320 show all weekend and I had my my boot cut 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.400 jeans and my cowboy boots on and down. I tell 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.560 you how I got the cowboy boots assumed bottom. Did 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.160 you my wonderful faking off of a corpse or something? 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.679 My wonderful father, Chris Neil says, you want some cowboy boots? 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.720 And I said, yes, I'd love some cowboy boots. Thank 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.200 you very much, he said. My podiatrist said, I can't 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.600 wear him anymore. I thought he was going to get 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:22.680 him from the podiatrist like somebody couldn't context clues of 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.040 doctor doctor anyway, So he gave me the boots. Right. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.640 I love the boots. I was standing on concrete all 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.720 weekend at a trade show, and today I was just like, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:36.400 I'm tired. I'm going with my supportive tennis shoes short. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.600 But I did get this shirt from my dad as well, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:44.480 so it's all it's a great well looking good, looking good. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.679 And then to your right, Brent Raives, great to see, Brett, 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.440 great to be seen. You're wearing a very nice pay 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:59.800 overall today and a new pair of shoes. Bears and gentlemen. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.840 Brent Reeves is wearing a powdered blue pair of trousers socks, yeah, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.360 with bears decorated. Does that bear have a fishness? What 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:15.240 else would have? In the grizzlies? These are These are 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.520 a present from Bailey, these socks. She gets me socks 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.000 with I got socks with the hound dogs on them, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.920 with trout. You would appreciate them jobs, fish, bears, animals, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.160 so I like to wear them. Excellent. And who are 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.440 you good? Who are you? My name is Clay Newcombe. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.000 I'm the host of the Beargrease podcast. So we're gonna 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.439 we're gonna talk about the text Durmy road show. But 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.320 before that, I wanna wait through a few things. Brent 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.040 tell me about your dog Tree and the other night 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.640 whalen first cut out of the box, turning loose, he 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.840 goes trees. I look on my garmen hundred fifty yards. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.120 I walked to the spot where he's at, and he 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.040 still sounds like he's a quarter of a mile away. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.959 And we're hunting up in the woods where we found 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.240 where you guys were at, where we coon hunted up 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.880 with Michael. I get to the edge of the slough 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.959 right here, Manu, it's flat ground all the way in there, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.319 so there's no heels, there's no there's not a hollow 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.080 tree close, there's not a there. There's a slow right 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.240 in front of me, but there's no beaver. Damn, there's nothing. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.280 I don't understand why I can't hear this dog. It 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.640 shows him to be at this point twenty ft away. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.120 I walked twenty fre ft and I'm standing on this 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.280 bare ground, flat bare ground in the river bottoms, and 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.360 this dog sounds like he is a quarter of a 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:29.240 mile away, just like I can't where's my dog? So 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.360 I'm looking at micaels Michael, I can't find my dog. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.080 And I'm looking at the garment and that thing is 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.440 spinning around in circles like a Ceiland fan. I know 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.680 I am right where this dog is at, or where 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.559 the collar is at. And then I get to listen 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.040 and he is barking under my feet. What under my feet? 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.920 He is in the in the ground, and I think, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.960 somebody's gotta get a shovel. I gotta dig my dog. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.760 I walked I could see real quick. Yes, that sounds 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.440 like the next Clean Uncome song. Somebody to get a shovel. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:09.320 I story could be. Uh. So I'm I'm twenty ft 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.840 away from the edge of the slough and the water. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 I can see. It's not running water, it's standing water. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.559 But I can see the water moving. So I walked 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.280 over to the edge and and laid down and looked 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.199 under and there's a six inch gap between the top 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.600 of the dirt and the water. You can see there 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.000 is a beaver run, a beaver hole that goes up 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.320 in this bank. And I get down there and I 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.640 can hear it, and it sounds like whaling has got 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.600 a paper towel tube and he's barking through it and 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.400 barking out that hole. You know, that would be light 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.199 in there, and I can't see anything. It's just water. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.120 So I called him and when he comes out, he 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.839 looks like he's in a submarine periscope. All I can 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.560 see is the top of his eyes and the rest 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.480 of him is under water. At that point, he comes 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.320 right out, swims out, and I grab him by the 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.960 collar and pull him up, and I looked at Michael. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.200 Michael said, we're just gonna say he had the coon. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.000 I ain't going down there to check there. And from 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.080 this how far in there was he? Uh fifteen yards? 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.400 Oh my gosh. Yeah, he was way back in there. Yeah, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.120 I mean, it wasn't like he was right on the 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.520 edge of the bank. He was fifteen yards away from 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.120 the edge of the water. No flashlight. He's a man, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.440 He's a good dog. Okay, So I've got I've got 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.120 a little bit of a story bear nucman. I went 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.439 this week to get ready for bear season, and we 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.800 went and we took we took our mules to a 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.240 piece of property where we bear hunt. You may have 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.600 seen us have the mule the mule videos where we're 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.640 hauling bait. And we took uh, we took Banjoe up 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.960 there and right out of the shoot Banjo. Y'all seen 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.079 me post some stuff about Banjo and he's not doing great. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.000 Clay and Banjo are in the strained era of their relationship. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.160 He's had a little bit of recidivism, hadn't he. Yeah, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.080 he's kind of would you say that he's he's sort 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.680 of the Josh spielm anchor, that he's the bad boy 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.400 of the mule patre. But he so. My history with 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.720 ban Joe is is that he started off really good. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.440 You do remember, though, that there was one episode of 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.480 the Burgrea Surrender that I titled Kicked by a Mule 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.360 because he kicked me when he walked out. That's a 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.959 strike against an animal if it ever reaches out and 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.440 kicked it. That's like getting bit by a dog. It's 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.440 like way to you know, usually don't give him too 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.000 many more chances than that. But because he was it 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.199 was kind of my fault. I kind of scared me. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.960 Wasn't like trying to hurt me. You know, he got 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.280 a pass. He kicked me right in the thigh. Well. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.680 I started riding him in January and he was doing 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.400 really great. First time I wrote him, just just wrote 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.000 him around the round pen. Usually start riding them in 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.600 a round pen just as it contained controllable environment. And 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.160 I had packed on him. I had done all the 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.680 there's there's multiple training exercises that you do to basically 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.480 train a mule. Well, I got over just over zealous 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.680 with how good he was doing. And so one day 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.640 back in the spring, I just to just I'm just 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.520 gonna write him out in our small pasture out here. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.400 And he was doing fine, everything was okay, and then 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.840 I went under a tree and the limbs of the 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.080 tree raked against my hat and made just kind of 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.520 a scratching noise. Josh, it would probably be like your mustache, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.520 like scratching up against some microphone is what it sounded like. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.880 And so Banjo it spooks him. He runs, He makes 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.760 like a like just a quick run, and when he does, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.840 I kind of tightened out on the saddle, just trying 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.800 to stay on. And when I do, I think that 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.200 spooks him, and he bucks twice real big. I mean, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.200 I couldn't sit, And when you're in the saddle, it 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.280 feels like a giant like you know, rodeo buck. It 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.360 probably was. And uh, but he bucked hard twice and 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.960 I flew off the front. He bucked mouth, No big deal. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.280 I actually got back up on him and wrote him 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.240 right then, just to let him know everything was okay. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.800 But since that time he has been ultra spooky about 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.480 almost everything. So I started riding him in the round 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.840 pen again and still doing all my normal exercises, my lunging, 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.520 my I don't really even know what to call it, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.200 but there's like five This is not clay with his 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.000 hands over his head, bending at the knees, not those 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.800 kind of lunches. That's right, it's right. I was upright 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.320 on top of its back doing some sort of horseback 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:33.160 gymnastics would so anyway, Misty saw that one Misty and 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.680 my nephew were in the garden when that happened. And 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.240 then two or three weeks later, after i'd worked him 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.960 a couple of times and ridden him a couple of times, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.840 and I thought, okay, we're over him getting spooky. Um, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.720 we're over him getting spooky. We're good. I was riding 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.680 him and I had ridden him for thirty or forty 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.520 minutes in the round pen, and just all of a sudden, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.040 he just got spooked, unprovoked, spooked is what it felt like. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.600 And he bucked two times and I flew off the 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.160 exact same way. So he drops his head and spends 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.040 hard right and I keep going left and uh, but 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.520 the second time I landed on my feet. Yeah, money, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.480 that was money Hawki Henson's technique. And he was a 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.320 saddle bront rider man could ride the hair off of 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.800 winged pegasus. And when he got and when he come 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.720 off of that bronc, it was nine miles in the 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.600 air and he landed on his feet and walked off 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:32.440 like a stud that he was. Yeah, fact check that. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.000 What's his name, Mony Hulki. Okay, So so now I'm 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.720 scared of Banjo, just to be if I'm being honest 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:46.040 like and and he is hyper's he's hyper aware of 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.080 me now when I'm around him, when I put stuff 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.040 on his back, and I've only got on him a 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.600 couple of times. And I've actually sent an inquiry out 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.720 to my friend Thy Evans t s Mules on Instagram, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.400 who's a master muleman, and um, he's supposed to answer 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.919 my question on his podcast. I said, basically, I had 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.200 a young bull that was doing good rolling. Multiple times, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.760 everything was okay, buck me off. The second time he 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.199 bucked me off. He's gotten much spooky, and I think 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:15.960 I know the answer of what to do is you 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.879 just gotta keep doing the same thing. But so we 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:26.520 take Banjo two the land to haul all our materials up. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.879 Because I am building this story has some complexity in it. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:35.760 I'm building pit blind for black bears. Yeah, and that's 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.919 all I'm gonna say about that. Decoys roll top like 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.720 a rice field. You're speaking my language. Now, Well, we 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.520 have to hand big it, and so I had to 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.800 bring I had to bring a bunch of stuff. So 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.280 I was gonna use Banjo as our pack animal, which 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.399 I did Banjo. I get Banjo all packed up, I 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.040 get is he saddled up. Bears gonna lead Banjo and 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:02.159 I'm gonna ride. And as soon as Bear untiesed Banjo 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.119 from the tree, I said, Bear, whatever happens to that mule. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.159 I just had a feeling just by the way he 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.040 was acting that he was gonna act up. I said, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.800 whatever happens, just hold onto him. You're not on his back, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.640 so he's not gonna hurt you. Just hold onto him. Well, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.399 the second I get on Izzy and ride off a 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:25.159 little bank kind of towards him, Banjo get spooked and 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.080 just throws a bucking fit. Nobody's on his back. I'm 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:36.080 on Izzy, but he, for comfort is running towards Izzy, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.199 and so I'm I'm trying to take Izzy away. And 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.520 I started like trotting down the road to just kind 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.480 of get away from him, just let him buck it out, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.919 and then I was gonna catch him. Well, he he's 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.520 just like right up on me, and is he just bucking? 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.479 And I mean and and I'm I'm confident that Izzy's 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.240 gonna get spooked and buck me off, which she's never done. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:01.359 And anyway, finally the darn thing bucks and just throws 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.240 a fit and probably five or six big bucks, you know. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.400 And then finally he was like he quits, and he's like, okay, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.520 I'm free, and Bear dropped the lead way to call 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.359 him out. I don't think you should call your kids 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.879 out on the nationally. I'm sorry. I just wish you 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.400 to hell, that's all. I'm not mad at him anymore. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.920 And the mule just ben Joe has my steel chainsaw 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.400 and the steal. He's got a pick axe and shovel 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.560 and he's got all my stuff on him and he 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.080 just takes off a running down this road and we're 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.359 way out in the middle of whether we're at the truck. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.320 He's going just were he's going. Wherever he's going, I 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.760 don't know. And so it's always a touch and go 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.840 thing when a mule takes off, because if you chase it, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.280 they'll just keep running. But if you don't go after him, 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.680 then you keep keep running too. So Baron Knucam, though, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.239 this is where I'll regain Bear's dignity inside of this. 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.679 That boy never gets He never missed a lick like 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.320 his facial expression never changed, his demeanor never changed, the 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.320 energy coming out of his body never changed mine. Did 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.440 I get worked up? I mean, I was like, I don't, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.280 I don't cuss, but like most people probably would have 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.920 would have been a good time to do it. But 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.199 I mean I was just like you know, I mean, 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.040 I was being real intense, and Bair just never never 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.440 made made a move in anyway. Bard takes after the mule, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.720 and about ten minutes later I see him walking back 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.520 with banjo and then we go up on up on 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.480 to where we're going, and maybe you should have him 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.760 line for maybe you should have him ride banjo. So 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.480 much happening in this story. I feel like I don't 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.960 know much about mule training and have it paid as 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.720 much attention outside of just filming videos. But I'm hearing 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.399 a lot Clay that I think Tie Evans or not 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.440 I could work with you on all right. I mean, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.159 I just Bear being able to get ban Joe not 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.600 sending a lot of loose energy. Um, you thinking that 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.760 you weren't mad at Bear, that you weren't happy with 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.160 them either. I can assure you bare new exactly where 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:20.199 your emotions were at in that moment. I think I 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.440 think there's some things here. Also, I question whether or 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.359 not you felt. I really do. When people have traumatic 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.400 experiences like Rex or they always think they remember things 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.040 exactly how it happened, and they almost never do. Your 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:37.040 memory placed tricks on you in my right bridge in 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.480 those kind of moments. Well you saw it both times. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.240 Well I'm more heard and turned so I saw it 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:48.640 when you were on your Yeah, I heard, I saw 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:54.120 like yeah, I think the mule is reading your emotions 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.880 and reacting. I just thought of that when I know what, Mr. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.520 I'm not so calm before that, right, that doesn't matter. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.960 I mean, we're all real calm when our kids are 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.679 being behaving like perfect angels. Do they have a mule 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.000 barn sale around here anyway? There? But he said at last, 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:18.560 I was waiting for Good to say, it's just no 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.840 question I want monkey with that mule. Well, I I 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:25.879 think you just have problems with mules. I've got years 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.800 in best in this mule. I've had it since it 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.480 was weaned, and I think it'll be fine. I agree. 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.280 I don't think we're getting rid of the mule for 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.080 being a little jumpy. I think that I think really 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.560 if if if he just keeps stacking up excess, then yeah, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.679 I think that let's let's try the mule handler first, Like, 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.520 let's go that angle, Let's let's get some emotional discipline. 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:47.800 I'm just I'm being a little bit facetious because I 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:49.719 know you're not out of control with your mules. You're 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.960 real restraint. But I think if if you're real restraint 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.760 in your actions, like you don't take action. But I 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.600