1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: You may have guessed, I'm not Taylor Zarzer. He is 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: actually out this week. He's working the Bowl circuit. He's 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the busiest man in sports. So while Taylor is out 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: and he is covering all of those games, we are 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: holding it down. But don't worry because I've brought in 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the best reinforcements in all of football, and that is 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: rhtt Brian from Titans Radio. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and coach mack Hi. 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for inviting me after it. But that's fine. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: No, I invited you. It was a group you just played. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: Second, well, I introduced rhet because I like him better, 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: but that's. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: Just what I said. 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: But also it was a group text. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: You got it at the same time if we were 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: both invited, all right, Moving on, the Titans just played 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: the Saints and there's a lot to talk about with that, 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: and also we're getting ready to wrap up this season 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville against the Jags. That's always a fun and 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: matchup and there's a lot of storylines going into that game. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: So we have plenty of things to talk about in 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: this edition of Monday Night Titans. 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: So I guess the best place to start is. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: The Saints game did not go the way the Titans 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: had hoped, but it was a very exciting game. 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: Mac. 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: When you think back on everything that transpired, what really 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: sticks out in your mind, Well, the. 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: Fact that you could tell in the second half that 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: the Titans are really having a hard time keeping up 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: in space with their receivers and we knew how depleted 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: the secondary was. And also going into it, I mean, 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: I study a lot of tape, Rett Night, you know, 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: do a lot of research on it, and Tyler Shuck 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: has been on a heater anyway, But and again it's 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: not an excuse, it's a reality. If they had enough 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: shots at you, especially with a really really accomplished receiver 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: like Chris Olave, they were going to hurt you. They 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: were going to hurt you. So to me, there were 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: several moments in the game where the Titans had a 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: chance to get enough score separation that they could put 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: something between them and the Saints as to where they 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: couldn't come back, but it didn't work out. And then 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: of course the strip sack fumble really was the difference 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: in the ball game. As far as just. 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: Points spread, yep, Rett, was there anything that really stuck 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: out to you about the matchup? 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: Just overall? 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: Well, it just I think to piggyback off of Mac 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: the explosive plays. Now, the Titans, if my account is correct, 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: had five of their ten longest planes were X plays, 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: and the problem with that is when they got into territory, 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: they'd have a drive stall or whatever and they'd have 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: to rely on Joey Slide to kick it into that 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 4: wind at Nissan Stadium, which he was very capable of doing. 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: Only problem is that's three and not seven, and so 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: there's part of it. The other as Mac talked about 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: allowing X plays, and it wasn't just Chris Olave. In fact, 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: they hadn't had much of a run game in the 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: last month. They won three in a row. Come into 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: this ballgame. Alvin Kamara has missed now five games with 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: both knee and ankle injuries. And so if you look 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: back at their previous game books, it was games where 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: like Tyler Shuck was the leading rusher and it was 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: thirty yards or it was Taysom Hill. And so this 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: was a game where they were able to establish and 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: maintain a run game, to get those scores and get 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: those drives together and also just eat up the clock. 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: Audrick estimate he might have had the best game of 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: his career so far, becaus he was originally a draft 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: pick of the Broncos and I don't remember if he 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: ever flirted with one hundred yard game there, but he 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: finished I think with ninety four yards on the ground, 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: and so that was a big part of it for 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: me as well. 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, it was just it was just the inability 77 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: in the second half for the Titans defense to slow 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: down the Orleans offense. 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's so frustrating because in the first 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: half of the game, it really felt like the Titans 81 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: were doing a lot of the. 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Things that they set out to do. 83 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: We saw the defense have a couple of really good stops, 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, two three and outs I think in the 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: first three possessions that the Saints had, which is really strong, 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: and so you kind of felt like that was working. 87 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Then the offense is making some big plays. We're getting 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of point separation there because the Titans 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: had some good scores and there were some big moments. 90 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, in the second half, it felt like a 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: different team. 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean because just because of all the things 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: that that Rech said, right, and the thing that was 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: very very you know and again offensively, I mean, cam 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: Ward is a magician. He's a magician with some of 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: the things he did. But when they got down to 97 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 3: the in the low red zone, it wasn't just the 98 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: red zone place, it was low red zone. They had 99 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: to settle for field goals. Rather than punching a couple 100 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: of those in, they punch a couple of those in. 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 3: It's a different story. 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the cam Ward of it 103 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: all a little bit, because we did see him make 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: some wild plays. His overall stat line he had twenty 105 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: one completions on forty attempts, two hundred and fifty one 106 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: yards passing. 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: He took four. 108 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: Sacks, two touchdowns two passing touchdowns, i should say, and 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: then he also rushed twice for ten yards. 110 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: So overall, I mean not. 111 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: Statistically incredible, but man, some of the plays that we 112 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: saw him, especially extending some of those plays when it 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: looked like he was dead in the water and then 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: was able to turn something into i mean, turn nothing 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: into something probably great. 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: She said that because, I mean, you can read stats 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: off of the sheet, but the visuals of what he 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: was doing, yeah, was pretty incredible. And that you're one 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: hundred percent correct because some of those times, I mean, 120 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: he was he was under pressure, but he never he 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: never displayed the fact that he felt pressured. He was 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: always looking downfield. I mean, the guy he's taken every 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: snap this year as a rookie quarterback in the National 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: Football League. But you could just if you've watched him 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: from day one today, whatever this is now that we're 126 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: talking about it, you can see the growth. And plus 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: you feel like I've been on teams like this before 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: with a quarterback when you felt like, as long as 129 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: he's got it in his hands, you got a chance. 130 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: And that's what it felt like. 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: The thing that stuck out to me that I kept 132 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: thinking during the game is regardless of stats and what's 133 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: on paper, cam Ward is never dead. Cam Ward's never dead, 134 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: like it takes a whistle to end it, because no 135 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: matter if there's one, two, three guys on top of him, 136 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: he's gonna do whatever he can to try and make 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: a play until he physically cannot, until somebody stops the play. 138 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: Well, the point, in fact, was the fourth down play 139 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: that was reviewed and then they said his n was down, 140 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: which it was. It's the correct call, but just the fact, 141 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: just the fact that he was able to take it 142 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: to that level and still had the enough presence of 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: mind to flick it out there. Looked like it was 144 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: going to be a first down to give you another 145 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: chance right at the end. I mean, you're right, Amy, 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: it's he's never dead. 147 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: He's never dead. 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 5: He is the Music City Houdini. Yeah, that's what he is. 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: And I think the interesting thing is we have already 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: heard interim head coach Mike McCoy speak this week about 151 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: the fine line of extending plays with your bodies, with 152 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: your body and making off schedule plays that you. 153 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 5: Know you can live and die by those things. 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: And we saw some of that take place yesterday, But 155 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: it also was against a Saints defense that is very good. 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: I mean, that is one of the things that has 157 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: helped them in this wind streak they're currently in. I'm 158 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: gonna say the other part of it in the cam 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: Ward just the body of work this year and looking 160 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: at his numbers and max right, numbers don't always speak everything, 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: but he's ninety nine yards away from breaking Steve McNair's 162 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: passing yardage. The year that Steve McNair in two thousand 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: and three was the co ENVP with Peyton Manning. Now 164 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: that tells you a couple things, the evolution of this 165 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: game as passers in quarterbacks and how that is such 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: a driving forces because I mean, it's nothing to have four. 167 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: And five thousand yard passers. 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: However, the Titans in Titans history never had a four 169 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: thousand yard passer. 170 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: We know that. 171 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: Then Matt can tell you this all day long because 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: he spent time there starting out his career. The Chicago 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: Bears in their one hundred and six year history have 174 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: never had a four thousand yard passer. Now that's a 175 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: different deal. That's a run game and defense. But for 176 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: him to be ninety nine yards away from that and 177 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: being the most passing yardage by a rookie in franchise history, 178 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 4: and technically they say second in franchise history because Warren Moon. 179 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: But Warren Moon wasn't a rook he was just new 180 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: to the NFL. He won five Great Cup Championships when 181 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: he came in and had a lot of big time 182 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: CFL moments under his belt. But just seeing those numbers, 183 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: it's wild to think of that. And the other thing 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm thinking is, you know what, in the not too 185 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: distant future, cam board as my grandmother would say, good 186 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: Lord Willing and the Creeks don't rise, will be the 187 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: titans first four thousand yard passer. 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't see that not being a thing. 189 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: Well, and that just just I mean, just in totality. 190 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: You know where this where this season went with all 191 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: of these young rookie players not only play in it 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: was It's different when rookies are playing spot play. These 193 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: guys are starters. They are starters, and they've made it. 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: They've made a They've made a huge difference in this 195 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: and I mean it was an exceptional, exceptional draft class. 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: Those guys that were able to you know, stay healthy 197 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: all year and contribute. So there's a lot, there's a 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: lot to build on. But having a quarterback go through 199 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: all of those trials and tribulations that he went through 200 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: as a rookie with every snap, you can't you can't 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: purchase how important that. 202 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: Is for him. 203 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Well you have to imagine that we will see the 204 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: biggest dividends from that, the biggest payback from that when 205 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: we get in to OTAs in training camp before the 206 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: twenty sixth season. I mean, think about the fact that 207 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: a cam Ward will have had some time to rest 208 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: which he hasn't had time to do since the off 209 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: season before the twenty twenty four season when he was 210 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: playing at Miami, and even then, I mean, you've got 211 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: off season stuff. Then you play a whole college season 212 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: where Miami did pretty well, and then you know, and 213 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: then you have the off season where you're training for 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: your pro day, you're training for the Combine, you're training 215 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: for everything else that you're doing. Then you get drafted, 216 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Then there's OTAs, then there's mini camp, then there's the 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: training camp. 218 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it just doesn't stop. 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: So having time for him to rest, for him to 220 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: process everything that he has been through, for him to 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: have a frame of reference for what in the world 222 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: he needs to work on and improve upon for twenty 223 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: six and already have the established chemistry, already have the 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: established rhythm with so many of the guys on offense 225 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: who are on the in the same boat that he 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: is from a rest recovery ability, freshness standpoint. I mean, 227 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: how valuable is all about? 228 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Well, the thing that you said that is spot on 229 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: is that is now he and all those rookie players 230 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: that played with him understand the process. Yeah, because you 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: come into this league as a coach or as a player. 232 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: Your first time in it, you don't know whether it's 233 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: pumped or stuffed. Yep, you really don't. And things happen 234 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: at at warp speed. That processing that you're talking about 235 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: now and a frame of reference is massive. 236 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much for anybody in the NFL. 237 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: You think you know until you get there, no matter 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: what you do, you think you know. 239 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: You don't know what you don't know. 240 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: You don't know until you do it once and then 241 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: and then things get real. 242 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. But that that that that's why there's a foundation 243 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: to build on here. 244 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: There really is. 245 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: And to you to further that point, I'm just thinking 246 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 4: about the guys in year two and year three, like 247 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: Peter Skeronsky in year three. 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 5: Right, pretty dog gone good? 249 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: Right, you dog gone good? 250 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: And then Cedric Gray comes back from missing a week 251 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: in concussion protocol and has twelve tackles and has over 252 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty tackles. 253 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Now, can we talk about Cedric Gray? What a force 254 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: in year two? 255 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's really year one, and I keep telling that, 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: I see keep saying that because I'm right. 257 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: Okay, he continued, he is not a rookie, but he 258 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: did miss the majority of his rookies. 259 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 5: He missed ten games to injury. 260 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: Well, not only ten games, he missed the start of it. 261 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 3: You talk about having a point of reference. Yeah, yeah, 262 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean he he when he hurt his shoulder in 263 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: that practice and was out for all that time. He 264 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: missed so much developmental time and developmental knowledge. 265 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: He's like a red red shirt rookie. 266 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean he was. He's a first year player. 267 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: And the fact that he was able to step in 268 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: once he got once he was able to participate in 269 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: practices and got healthy, you could just see him exponentially 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: get better. I mean, I cut my teeth on linebackers 271 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: in this league, and you can watch him and know, Okay, 272 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: this dude's got what it takes. He just needs now, 273 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: As I always say, tie him on task to do 274 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: it and give him a lot of credit. Give him 275 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: a lot of credit for that, because I mean, at 276 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: the beginning of this season, he wasn't started, he wasn't 277 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: counted on to be a starter. He was not Give 278 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: him credit, Give coach Frank Bush credit. The guy's a player, 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: and that's something else to build on. 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: And seeing a guy like James Williams coming in for 281 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: him last week leading the team in tackles and having 282 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: a quarterback sack that was nearly a safety. That's another 283 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: guy in year two. And then a guy that I've 284 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: kind of just been keeping an eye on is Jalen Harrold, 285 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: the two hundred and fifty second pick of the twenty 286 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: twenty four draft. In round seven, he's start to build 287 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: a case for himself to be a contributor. You're talking 288 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: about a guy that prior to the trade deadline was 289 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: just playing teams, doing his part. And you look after 290 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: about week seven or eight, I think he's had ten 291 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: straight games where he's had twenty five snaps or more. 292 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: Wow. 293 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: And so some of that's designed, you know, by necessity 294 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: after a trade of Draymond Droones and some other things 295 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: like that. But I'm excited about Rooks going into year two. 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: Second your guys into year three and so on and 297 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: so forth. 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Mack. 319 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: You brought up that you are a bit of a 320 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: linebacker guru, you know, given your history. 321 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: In the National. 322 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: In the National Football League and whatever he says, he's right. 323 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Compliments I've ever had in all my seasons in the 324 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: bit of it. 325 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't want you to get a 326 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: big head, but I do want to talk about the 327 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Titans linebackers group because overall we've seen throughout the course 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: of the season, we've seen some big play from those guys. 329 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Cedric Gray we touched on a little bit. 330 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Cody Barton has been such a great addition to this 331 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: team as well. 332 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: What has stood out to you about. 333 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: His play not only in what he's been able to 334 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: accomplish on the field, but how he's been as a 335 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: leader within the group of well. 336 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: Within this group. I mean, he was a veteran player, 337 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: and it was a really good free agent signing, but 338 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: when when he was when he was brought in here, 339 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: what that group really needed. And again, you always in 340 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: that group, it's not only for the group, but it's 341 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: for the defense and totality. You need somebody to run 342 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: the show. You need somebody to be able to run 343 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: the show, and you need you need somebody that people 344 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: are able to depend on that when they say something 345 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: during the course of the ball game that everybody will 346 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: follow in line. Well, he he's a veteran player, he's 347 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: extremely extremely smart, and he reminds me of some of 348 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: the He reminds me a whole lot of the guy 349 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: that I coached here that was a linebacker coach at 350 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: the Saints this weekend is Peter Sermon. Now here's a 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: guy that she's a very very smart player, that's a 352 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: good player physically, but also people trusted him. And if 353 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: you'll go back to our good friend Keith Bullock, he 354 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: will tell you that coming up, that was the guy 355 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: he trusted to get him set up and lined up 356 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden progress his career as to 357 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: where he could be a signal caller sooner or later. 358 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: That's what Cody Barton's done well. 359 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: And you need a guy like that in a linebacker's 360 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: room that has a lot of young guys who are 361 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: being asked to contribute, right ratt yes. 362 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: And it also speaks to Cody Barton's leadership ability because 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: you know about a guy that he hadn't stayed in 364 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: one too many spots very long himself, and it just 365 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: did some conversations with him this year. 366 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: You know, he was still learning this defense. 367 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 4: He was still but he knew that he had to 368 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: lead by word, lead by example, all those kinds of things, 369 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: and he just happened to have a little more tenure 370 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: under his belt before he came here. 371 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 5: So that's the part. 372 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: About this, I think this is the interesting dynamic. And 373 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: I go back to what coach Mack has already said 374 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 4: in this hour, Frank Bush deserves a lot of credit 375 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 4: for making that unit cohesive, working together, working in that 376 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: second level as nicely as they have done. 377 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and in talking to Cody Barton, one of the 378 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: things that he said was so appealing to him about 379 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: coming to the Tennessee Titans, because of course you get 380 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: offers from other people and everything during free agency was 381 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: the opportunity to really build something within a defense. It 382 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: wasn't just about how he would be be able to contribute, 383 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: but it was about the leadership opportunities. 384 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: It was about. 385 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Being someone who could get in almost on the ground 386 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: floor of a new project and really build up that foundation. 387 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: And it seems like he's really done that. 388 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 3: Well, he's a professional and he's got he's got a 389 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: professional approach to it. And what Red said is true 390 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: to come in like that from the outside and immediately 391 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: to have your teammates, now this is a young team, immediately, 392 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: but you can tell that they respect him, you know, 393 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Simmons respects him, I mean and respecting the National 394 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: Football League locker room is huge, it really is. But 395 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: you don't get it just by credentials that you bring in. 396 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: You get it by what you do every day. And 397 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: he's a he's a pro. 398 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the secondary of it all a 399 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: little bit because it's just been brutal back there in 400 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: terms of inner injuries. We saw Jalen armor Davis go 401 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: down this past Sunday with an achilles injury. That's just 402 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: not something you want to see. Marcus Harris was put 403 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: on IR last week. That's not something you want to see. 404 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: Mac. What do you do a shows anybody what you 405 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: do exactly. 406 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: What they're doing. I mean, you try to, you scour, 407 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: you scour the practice squads, and you bring in somebody 408 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: that you've got to report on that you think might 409 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: be able to help you. But it's hard, and because 410 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: of the space game in the National Football League, I mean, 411 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: you know, we've witnessed it, that stuff that back there. 412 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: First of all, it takes it takes skill back there, 413 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: because that's hard, hard position, but it also takes some cohesiveness, 414 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: and they've not been able to have any cohesiveness. Not 415 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: anybody's fault, but the fault is attrition. And that's just 416 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: the truth of it, and it's it's just it's just 417 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: very very hard and and to me it's it's first 418 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: of all, there's a lot a lot that it puts 419 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: on the player coming in to be able to catch up, 420 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: not only to catch up with a new environment, but 421 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: catch up with what you're doing in four days in 422 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: a game plan. And also it puts a lot of 423 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: lot of stress on the coaches because that's that I've 424 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: done it before. I mean I've had corners that I've 425 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: had to bring in and flip sides of the field 426 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: during quarters so i can tell them do what they 427 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: were doing. I mean that is in this league, especially 428 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: with what happens with offenses in the space game. The 429 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: space game, you've got to have cohesion back there and 430 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: you need you need some first lineability and when people 431 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: are hurt, you just can't have that. 432 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, to max point, as you're saying that, I'm thinking 433 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: this puts a lot of pressure on Denard Wilson. It 434 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: puts a lot of pressure on Steve Jackson, the secondary coach. 435 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: All these guys are back there helping that level and 436 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: I'll tell you, I'll go I'll go step further. It 437 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: puts pressure on them on the hooker, the loan vet 438 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 4: back there trying to do his thing because in his 439 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: mind he's going down the tight rope of Okay, I 440 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: have to do what I need to do, and I 441 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 4: don't need to take my eye off the ball, but 442 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: I also need to make sure my guys are lined 443 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: up where they're supposed to be by the looks that 444 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: were shown. So there's a there's a balancing act there. 445 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, and it's it's it's not only schematically, it's just 446 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: sooner or later back there in the back and physically 447 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to be able to match up. You're 448 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: gonna to be able to match up speed wise. That 449 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: that's that's the that's the difference back there, because you know, 450 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: the closer you move to the line of scrimmage, then 451 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: as far as what happens to you, it happens, it 452 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: happens quicker. But it's not there's not the ramifications of 453 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: playing in space back there, because sooner or later you're 454 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: gonna be one on one and one on one in 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: this league. Back there is a scary proposition. And I'm 456 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: going to tell you why all the rules been towards 457 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: the offense on that that's just the league we live in, 458 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: and the National Football League is is A is A 459 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: is a predator type of situation as far as if 460 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: you see somebody hurt, you're going after them. Yeah, you're 461 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: going after him. And and that's that's just what happens. 462 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: It's oh, you're you're one on one in open water. 463 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: Ye're one on one in and open water. And then 464 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: if you touch them, then their flag comes out. It's 465 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: a hard, hard position to play. That's why there's such 466 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: a premium on those dudes. And to your point, when 467 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: we started this discussion, what do you do? You try 468 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: to cobble it together as best as you can. And 469 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: it not only puts pressure on those people back there, 470 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: but to rest point, it puts pressure on the people 471 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: up front. Now now all of a sudden, there's pressure 472 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: to get to get pressure on the quarterback, there's pressure 473 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: on the line. I mean, you just need to keep 474 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: people healthy. 475 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be important. That would fix all of 476 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: our problems. If everyone could just stay healthy. Mac just 477 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: solved it. Yeend, I guess we're done here. 478 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's that's because I'm sort of a linebacker guru. 479 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, a bit, I said a bit of a linebacker, 480 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: A bit that I said I was, I was trying 481 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: to be nice. 482 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: I won't do it anymore. It remains what you meant. 483 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: I guess I was. 484 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: The Titans are getting ready to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, 485 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: and that is always a fun game because the two 486 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: teams don't really like each other so much. And I 487 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: love a good rivalry, and I know you guys do too, 488 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: But this one could have some additional ramifications for the Jags. Right, 489 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: This isn't a throwaway game for Jacksonville by any stretch 490 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: of the imagination, and Rett, that's going to make it 491 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: quite a challenge in sunny Florida, right it is. 492 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: They beat the Colts in Indianapolis on Sunday twenty three, seventeen, 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: final score, and they are playing for something called the 494 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: number one seed in the AFC, which means a first 495 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: round by and all of those kinds of things and 496 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: home field advantage for as long as you win at 497 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: home and all those good things. It's a huge deal 498 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: because Houston still has to say in this and if 499 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: things go one way or the other, Houston get winning 500 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: the division because of the tiebreaker there. But yeah, so 501 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: Jacksonville is twelve and four, first place in the AFC 502 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: South Division, and they may be the hottest team in 503 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: the league right now. They've been pretty doll gone good 504 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: all year, but they're riding a seven game win streak, 505 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: and one of the big reasons why is the continued 506 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: elevated play of their former number one overall pick and 507 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 4: quarterback Trevor Lawrence. I have a firm believer that, at 508 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: least in twenty twenty five, that Liam Comb, the head coach, 509 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: in his first year, has unlocked some of the best 510 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: attributes of this young man's play. He did have one 511 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: pick yesterday, but he has only had one turnover in 512 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: the last five games of this seven game win streak, 513 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: and that has been one of the things on him 514 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: is ball security. 515 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: A lot of fumbles. Those things it happened back in college. 516 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: Three seven hundred and fifty two yards passing twenty six 517 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 4: touchdowns to twelve interceptions, sixty percent completion percentage, been sacked 518 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: thirty nine times. The thing that he did yesterday in 519 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 4: Lucas Oil Stadium, though, is that he used his legs 520 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: twenty six yards rushing, two rushing touchdowns. That was the 521 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: difference in this thing. So he's been elusive in that 522 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: part of it. But he's got some good players around him. 523 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: I find it interesting that as we get to this 524 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: last week of the regular season that Parker Washington is 525 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 4: the actual leading receiver on this team with fifty three 526 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: catches for seven to sixty and four scores, not Brian 527 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, who's had kind of a sophomore issue. 528 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 5: The defense is just as good as it was. 529 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you think about the first matchup in week 530 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: thirteen at Nissan Stadium. It was a twenty three to 531 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: was it twenty three to five? 532 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: Twenty five to three? 533 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: I got my numbers, transpos I'm not a math major. 534 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 4: You can tell that already. 535 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: That's okay. I have it right here. 536 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 5: And it's still led by those big guys up front. 537 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: I mean, josh heinz Allen seventy six quarterback pressures right now, 538 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: eight quarterback sacks. He sacked cam Ward twice that day. 539 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: They had three total. Eric Arnstead thirty four pressures himself. 540 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: Foyer Alua Khan is there, Cedric Gray one hundred and 541 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 4: thirty four tackles. He's been a tackling machine since they 542 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: picked them up in free agency from Atlanta. That defense 543 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: ninety four point eight yards per game on the ground, 544 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 4: allowed one to seventy seven through the air, and they 545 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: can force turnovers. You know, this is a team that 546 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: is again at home for so much on the line, 547 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: riding a seven game win streak. The place will be 548 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: very loud, and this is where the Titans have to 549 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 4: make hay where they can and make as few mistakes 550 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: as possible. 551 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: Well, they're the most complete team right now in the 552 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: AFC South, you know, because especially since the quarterback got 553 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: heard at Indy. India was on a heater until they 554 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 3: lost their quarterback. And when you start losing your people, 555 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: it makes a huge difference. I mean, the helmet may 556 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: look the same, but it's different when you lose your people. 557 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: But they're the most complete team and what they've done, 558 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: and again, Trevor Lawrence is a great example of a 559 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: number one overall pick that has had four different offensive coordinators. 560 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: You talk about time on task, but the ability has 561 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: always been there, has always been there, and so and 562 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: that's right. I mean, the first of all, that thing 563 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: was foundationally built on a defense, and their defense, their 564 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: defense is kept them alive until you know they've got 565 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: they they got the they've got the quarterback working, and 566 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: he's right. I mean he's he lost you know, some 567 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: of his top receivers. But the totality of that team, 568 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: as I say, they're the most complete team in the 569 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: in the ANFC South and they've got everything in the 570 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: world to play for. I've been involved with teams like 571 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: that where it's i mean, it says this this week, 572 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: they will be hyper focused on the Titans because they 573 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: they've got an opportunity to do something that they haven't 574 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: done there in a while. And plus, I mean there's 575 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: a little bit of sand paper between these two organizations. 576 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: Let's just say that, just a bit. Yeah, I've been 577 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 3: involved in it, all three of us have, you know, 578 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: there's some sand paper there. So anyway, it's a huge, 579 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: huge challenge, you know, for a Titans team right now 580 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: that is clearly i mean not at full strength against 581 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: an opponent that's playing for everything that is pretty much 582 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 3: at full strength. 583 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting what rehtt says about how loud 584 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be, how crazy that environment's going to be. 585 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: We Jacksonville, We've gone a couple times and you know, 586 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: people are there, but they're not super into it. They 587 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: are fired up about the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville, Florida 588 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: right now. 589 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: It is the talk of the town. 590 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: We've been down there in the past when the best 591 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: thing that was going on was what was happening in 592 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: the pool. 593 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there are weird times. 594 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on down there now? It's it's most 595 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: important that you're right. I mean, it's a it's a 596 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: big deal where they are, and that's the ebbs and 597 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: flows the National Football League. 598 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: And to your point about the sandpaper they were, there's 599 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: no one they'd like to see crushed and get a 600 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: thirteenth win and win then you know, earn a first 601 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: round by and the number one seed, than to do 602 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: it against the Tennessee Titans. 603 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 604 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, they they enjoy beating the Tennessee Titans, and I 605 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: think would enjoy even more seeing the way that the 606 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Titans have continued to show improvement over these last couple 607 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: of weeks. Even what happened with the Saints, there was 608 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: still a lot of bright spots, a lot of signs 609 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: of improvement. We've seen the growth over this over the 610 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: last few weeks with this team, and it feels as 611 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: though there's a lot of good heading into that. The 612 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Jags would like nothing more than to destroy that Jelo. 613 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: Jags don't carry about anything good that's going on with 614 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: the Titans. We just don't. Just like during those years 615 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: when the Titans were dominating, we could care less what 616 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: was going on with somebody else, but oh. 617 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: I cared if it was bad. 618 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: The other part of this too, is offensively. One thing 619 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: I left out. They've been able to run the football 620 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: Travesytn's had a very nice year. The rookie Baseel Tutan, 621 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: who was shelved last week with an injury. Both of 622 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: those guys have worked very well in tandem and can 623 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: catch the ball out of the backfield. They've got a 624 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: dynamic there that I think has helped offset some of 625 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: the wide receiver type issues that they've had. And then 626 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 4: Brenton Strange has emerged as the top tight end since 627 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: Evan Ingram departed a while back. So they've got weapons 628 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: at the disposal. The big one is the run game 629 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: is huge. And then what Trevor Lawrence does, because he's 630 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: had a very nice year. 631 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, as I say to me right now, at 632 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: this point in time, they probably weren't at the beginning 633 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: of the year in the AFC South. They're the most 634 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: complete team right now going into playoff season for the 635 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: AFC South. 636 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: I guess the real question now is are either of 637 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: you going to throw hands with a Jags player? Because 638 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there to do it. 639 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: As I have. 640 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: We can't gauge in that stuff unless you're there, because 641 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: you're like the leader of the Jets, correct, and you're 642 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: like the back. Yeah, you're like the gang. You know 643 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: in West Side story, you're the leader when you start fighting, 644 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: everybody does. I've seen you start fights before on the field. 645 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: For those who aren't familiar with this story, I did 646 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: not actually get in. 647 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: A fight with a that's a lie. 648 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: You spilled Jaguars players. 649 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: No, no, stop it. You started the fight. Jarrell Casey 650 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: was trying to calm things down, and you went in 651 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: there and pushed him into a fight. That's not on 652 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: the field here at Nissan Stadium. I saw it. I 653 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: saw it from upstairs. I saw it. So just go 654 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: ahead tell the people what you want on this program. 655 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: I saw it. 656 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: What actually happened is the Tennessee Titans had just beat 657 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars Assan Stadium. I was about to do 658 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: an interview with Jarrell Casey for the Big Boards like 659 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: they do the postgame interview, and I'm wait. 660 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: Which is why you started the fight. 661 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've got Darrell here. He had been exchanging 662 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: words with somebody for the entirety of the game, and 663 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was now. I'll have to 664 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: look at the picture because we have photographic evidence, of course. 665 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: But they continued to exchange words while Jerrelle was waiting 666 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: for this interview to start, and then it got a little. 667 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: More than words. 668 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: They it got a little physical and they start fighting, 669 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just standing there and I didn't step away 670 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: because I enjoy a good fight every now and then. 671 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: So I was just standing there taking it in. 672 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: And but it looked like I was involved. 673 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: You know you were involved because I saw you. Here's 674 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: here's what you did. Here's right, here's Jerrell. He's starting, 675 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: he's and you're going like his pushing. No, I was 676 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: not push push, pushed it in. And then after you 677 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: gave I said, what are you What were you doing? 678 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 5: Amy? 679 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: She said, I just wanted to be sure that if 680 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: he got into a fight, he won. 681 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: I was just standing there, but then on Wednesday practice, 682 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: Brian I Rackpo in his big Brian a Rackpo voice 683 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: applauded me for hanging in there and for being in 684 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the action. And then I felt because and mighty, and 685 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: I felt very impressive. 686 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: He saw the same thing I did. 687 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: He saw he knows, he knows what's. 688 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 5: Northwest in the middle, they're just banging against each other. 689 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: Happen. 690 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: He was like Mick in Rocky, where he's standing. 691 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 5: There just. 692 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: Well, that's not true, but it is one of my 693 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: favorite stories, and I try to tell it every year 694 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: around a matchup with the Jags because it just never 695 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: gets old to me. 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We are excited about the upcoming matchup 726 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and so let's talk some matchups. 727 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: Love, I love some some matchup conversation. 728 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: Rhett took us through a preview of kind of what 729 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: the Jags are working with here. Rhtt, I'm gonna start 730 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: with you, cam Ward. What is the matchup that he 731 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: should be preparing for the most this season this week, 732 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not. 733 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 4: Well, I mean just keeping those big dudes away. I 734 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 4: mean josh heinz Allen, as we've talked about this hour, 735 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 4: sacked him twice back in Week thirteen at Nissan Stadium, 736 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: and so he and Eric Armstead. I mean, there's a 737 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 4: host of guys that kind of make that happen up front, 738 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: but Trayvon Walker is one, Devon Hamilton's another, but Josh 739 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: heinz Allen is probably the a number one he needs 740 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 4: to make sure he stays away from. And look, over 741 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 4: the last month, Cam has done a good job in 742 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: quicker releases. 743 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: He had a little step back in. 744 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: That on Sunday against the Saints in some spots, but 745 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 4: I think the quick release is a big part of it. 746 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 4: And then the thing that has really been the difference 747 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: maker in all of this over the last month is 748 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: can you get Tony Potter and Taja Spears rolling in 749 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 4: the run game because that is an effective diffuser of 750 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 4: pass rush if you can kind of establish some of 751 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: those things. 752 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's look, this is a really really good 753 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: defense and that's it's not just it's not just cam 754 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: Ward against them. I mean that the whole, the whole, 755 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: the whole offensive unit has got to do, has got 756 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: to do their part because they're going to bring heat. 757 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: I mean when I study tape and I mean, you know, 758 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 3: during the broadcast, when I say, look, here's where they're 759 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 3: going to bring heat, I know what I'm talking about. 760 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: And they're gonna bring. They're gonna bring. They're not going 761 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: to back off of this. Earlier in this program, you know, 762 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 3: you talked about the importance of this game for them. 763 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: This is this is in their mind right now, and 764 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: so there's gonna be a lot of heat on this 765 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: offensive unit. The other thing that has to happen is 766 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 3: if you progress the football against this team, you've got 767 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 3: to score touchdowns in the low red zone. You cannot, 768 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 3: you cannot. Really, this is not gonna be a field 769 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: goal game. It's just not going to be because of 770 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: the way of the heater that their offense is on 771 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. So you've got to do a much better job. 772 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: You're getting it down to the red zone, like what's happened, 773 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: But you got to score touchdowns in the red zone. 774 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: So what's what's the key? What is the barrier to 775 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: the Titans. Obviously they are able to move the football, 776 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: they're able to get to the red zone. What's the 777 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: barrier there, Well, I. 778 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 3: Mean, it just depends on what the team's defenses are doing. 779 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: I mean, but sooner or later, And again it goes 780 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: back to what I'm talking. You've got to win your 781 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: one on ones. You've got to win your one on ones. 782 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 3: You got to win your one on sooner or later. 783 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: It gets to down to bone on bone. It's bone 784 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 3: on bone up front, and then you've got to be 785 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: able to separate in the in the back end. That's important. 786 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: The other thing, uh, just thinking about this and some 787 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 4: of the reasons why there's been a barrier, there is 788 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 4: some self inflicted things. We've had moments where there's been 789 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: you know, pre snap penalties and those things get them 790 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 4: even after they maybe they had you know, had a 791 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 4: potential first down and it brought the ball backwards. The 792 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 4: Jags defense has really amped up their sure tackling. They 793 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 4: missed two tackles against the Colts on Sunday, Wow, and 794 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: so I think that was the fewest yards allowed they'd 795 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: had all They're starting to tune this thing up. So 796 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 4: that's the thing that is going to be the answer. 797 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 4: On the defensive side of this for the Titans is 798 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: tackling got you in trouble against the Saints. 799 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 5: You got to shore up the tackling. However, you ca hand. 800 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 2: What's it going to take for the Titans to really 801 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 2: establish a solid run game, because we see them have 802 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: success when the run game is really firing on all cylinder. 803 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 3: You got everybody has to It gets down to individual matchups, 804 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: man on man. Everybody has to move their person. When 805 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: they've had success running the football as a group. As 806 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 3: a group, they've they've established the line of scrimmage on 807 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: the defensive side, they've moved them. When they have not 808 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: done that, then they have not been able to get 809 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 3: any traction, I mean. And so what they've got to 810 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: do is they got to They got to get. You 811 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 3: got to get You got to win your one on ones. 812 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: When I say bowt on bone, I'm talking about one 813 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 3: on one matchups. That's the National Football League. 814 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 4: That's why they always say it takes eleven to make 815 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 4: that happen. It's everybody doing their part. And if haven't been, 816 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 4: somebody flinches at the line, or they're in illegal shift 817 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 4: or any of those things that kind of sets you back, 818 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: you know, behind the eight ball, so to speak. 819 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: Well again, it comes down to matchups too, because you know, 820 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: as we sit here talking about it, I promise you 821 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: when you're in the film room, you're you're getting you're 822 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 3: looking and you're getting matchups and say it. Here, here's 823 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: the soft spot. Here's what we've got to go after. 824 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: That works on both sides of the line of scrimmage. 825 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: And so you've got to be you can't be the 826 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 3: soft spot. I mean, that just happens. 827 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, the Titans are getting ready 828 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: to take on the Jags, and we've got one more 829 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: segment on the other side of this break. Now, the 830 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans are taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville. 831 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: Kickoff for that game is noon Central Time. Titans Radio 832 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: guns on the air at eleven AM. Titans Countdown is 833 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: always a good time. Rhet will be there, Mac will 834 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: be there, I will be there, and then Mac and 835 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Taylor's ourser will have the call. Lucas Pantica will also 836 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: be there as well, covered Will Bowling and everybody else, 837 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: so whole crew gang will all be there in the 838 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: final minutes of this game, or of this game, this show, 839 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: whatever this is we're doing. 840 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 5: We're running four minute offense here. 841 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Really enjoy having you guys together. As we approach the 842 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: end of the season. Do you have any memories of 843 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: this season that you want to relive or moments that 844 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: bring you joy? Maybe fights you've been in as that's 845 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: been a theme of. 846 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: The Maybe maybe fight you Maybe that's been a theme 847 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: of the show. 848 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 3: You know, when you go through it, when you go 849 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 3: through a season like this, the the fact of the 850 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 3: matter is in this league, regardless of whether you're winning 851 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 3: or losing, you still do a lot of work. Yeah, 852 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: you work, and you work and then and then I 853 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: mean the rewards. How many times have we talked about this. 854 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 3: The rewards are not money. The rewards are winning games. 855 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 3: And when you when you don't have many wins, then 856 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: you really dig in and try to and you can't 857 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: work harder because I mean, this is a twenty four 858 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 3: to seven gig. I mean, it really is. I mean, 859 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: people aren't in it, don't don't realize it. But the 860 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: thing that that that I take away from it is 861 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: we've always done it very very professionally with Titans Radio, 862 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: and that's extremely extremely important, because you can't cut any 863 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 3: corners regardless, regardless of what's happening on the field, as 864 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 3: in a broadcast and in preparation, you can't cut any corners. 865 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 3: And that's the way I was raised in this league, 866 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: and that's that's those are the things that I remember. 867 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 3: And then, plus when you've got very few wins to celebrate, 868 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 3: when you do win, it's a good feeling. It's a 869 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 3: lot of it's a lot of fun, I mean, and 870 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: it's there's there's moments, there's moments through it when you 871 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: can see and the thing that I enjoyed the most 872 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 3: about this year was is you could see the growth 873 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 3: of these young players because you know, as a lifetime 874 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 3: coach in this league, I know how important development of 875 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 3: players is. And then when you can visually see it 876 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: week after week, then you know you've got a chance 877 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: for something good to happen eventually. 878 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 4: I would start with the very first win of the 879 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: season and how crazy that was in Arizona. That was 880 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: a wild time out in the desert. Most recently the 881 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 4: James Williams block punt, Yeah, and just what that means 882 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 4: with the tide to tim Shaw Titan for Life and 883 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 4: all of those. Just I have a really soft place 884 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 4: in my heart for Tim Shaw, and I really like 885 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: James Williams and kind of seeing his game grow throughout 886 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 4: this and just what that special team's phase has done. 887 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Jim dk is a rookie starter as a 888 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 4: returner for the AFC and the Pro Bowl, and he 889 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 4: set a new NFL record on Sunday. I mean, this 890 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 4: is a record previously held by Tim Brown, Hall of 891 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 4: Famer from the Raiders for all purpose yardage by a rookie. 892 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 4: He has twenty three hundred and seventeen yards with one 893 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 4: game to go, So there's a chance that record stays 894 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 4: his for a while, yep. But just to see all 895 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 4: of these guys kind of grow up together. And yeah, 896 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: the winds were few, but the are still quite quite 897 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 4: a few. 898 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, plenty of those. 899 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 4: And that's what we don't need to get lost on 900 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: is too many of the bad things. There are places 901 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 4: to improve and learning moments, but it's wild to think 902 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 4: that it's all coming down to Sunday in Jacksonville, and 903 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 4: then that book is closed on twenty twenty five, and 904 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of things to talk about in 905 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. 906 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 907 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: It happens so fast it feels like it's the longest 908 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: shortest year, and that's always how it feels with football season. 909 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: It lasts forever and also is gone in the blink. 910 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 3: Well that's the way the Nice to FOOTBA League is. 911 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 3: This is what my thirty ninth straight year in it. Yeah, 912 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean I can remember the first game I was 913 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 3: ever in, just like I remember the last one. 914 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: We do isn't that crazy? 915 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: Crazy? 916 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 2: What an awesome thing we get to do every single week? 917 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 918 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well guys, thanks for filling in today. It 919 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: was lovely to spend some time chatting with you. Always 920 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: a blast when you are here. 921 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: Glad to be here, even though I'm second to Ritt. 922 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 3: I mean, and you've told me that, so we're fine. 923 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 5: And we didn't have any fights with players, so there's that. 924 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and we don't have a fights with 925 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: players only because it's a victory Monday and we couldn't 926 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: get them here, and not a victory Monday, it's a 927 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: regular Monday, it is, and we couldn't get him here. 928 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: And you are still my second. 929 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: Favorite, second favorite. Yeah, I've been second favorite all my life, 930 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: So that's good. 931 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 1: For Rett Brian and our second favorite coach Black I'm 932 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: Amy 933 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 5: Wellth this has been the OTP