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Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of Three Rounds with

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier. Hey, it's been a minute. I've been training.

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Speaker 2: I'm fit, I'm ready. Dan Thomas has been traded. Dean

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Speaker 2: Thomas is fit and ready in him and I gonna fight,

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Speaker 2: and we got three rounds today. We're gonna go hard

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Speaker 2: and Dan Thomas got some answering to do, so let's

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Speaker 3: From experienced row one.

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Speaker 2: My man Dean Thomas the other day was on the

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Speaker 2: podcast and he said this, We.

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Speaker 1: Got to understand that MMA is a star driven sport.

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Speaker 1: We have a star problem in the UFC, much less

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Speaker 1: the GFL than they were stars twenty ten years ago. Like,

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Speaker 1: how do they expect the fifty to fifty split revenue

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Speaker 1: and you don't even know what the revenue is going

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Speaker 1: to be get.

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Speaker 4: Under the CFL.

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Speaker 1: It's like they gave him all this money and then

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Speaker 1: now they can't afford, apparently to pay the rest of

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Speaker 1: their fight stars they got Dakota to Cheva, who's a star.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if you guys like Mma, do this

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Speaker 1: for Mma, trader to the UFC. You know she belongs

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Speaker 1: in the UFC. Listen, get rid of bank Alive in

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Speaker 1: the UFC. Trader, Franklive, we don't.

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Speaker 4: Need he's not.

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Speaker 1: This guy fit right in at the PFL. Another guy

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Speaker 2: D You're talking about the light heavyweight champion magamont on

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Speaker 2: Caliath and you're talking about Dakota who fights PFL. Dean,

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Speaker 2: it would take a blind man to know to not

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Speaker 2: at the Chova.

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Speaker 3: His name did a covid did Chova? Was her name?

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Speaker 4: The Chovava?

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Speaker 3: It would take a.

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Speaker 2: Blind man to not know that, uh, to not know

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Speaker 2: that you're looking at a star. But Dean, a UFC

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Speaker 2: light heavyweight champion. There has to be something that was

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Speaker 2: lost in translation when you made that statement.

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Speaker 3: Please tell me.

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Speaker 1: That, all right, So first off, let me say this.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this for two years. I said this

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Speaker 1: needed to make that trade.

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Speaker 3: About on Caliath.

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Speaker 1: Yes, when al cal was running around trying to get fights,

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Speaker 3: Shut up, Dean.

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Speaker 1: It was a year ago where he was still begging

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Speaker 4: There and we could use Dakota. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So I went back. I went back after all this

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Speaker 4: Conveniently brought it out now when he's defending, he's a.

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Speaker 3: Chance about the fighting, he's about to fight for a

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Speaker 1: The perfect time for them to bring it out now.

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Speaker 1: But I went back, and not only that, am I

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Speaker 1: doubling down. I'm trippling down, and I'm still saying that

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Speaker 3: Treat balk Dean. Get out of here.

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Speaker 4: D I am tried down Dakota di Cheva.

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Speaker 1: She is fifteen and zero with an eighty percent knockout rate.

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Speaker 1: If you don't think that the UFC could make her

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Speaker 1: all of MMA. A blond headed girl next door, a

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Speaker 3: Dean. You're going crazy. You're going crazy, dude, you said

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, the way they tried, the way they

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Speaker 1: he's out there knocking people out. The public loves that.

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Speaker 1: They love when you can take an unassuming looking person,

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Speaker 1: next door. She's a pretty girl with an eighty percent

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Speaker 4: In the UFL.

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Speaker 3: She gets to the UFC in the knockout, stop Dean.

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Speaker 3: Until she gets to the UFC in the level of competition.

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Speaker 4: Maybe what makes you think the knockouts will stop?

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Speaker 1: She maya Santos who arguably beat Valentina chef Chanks.

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Speaker 4: She knocked her out.

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Speaker 2: You know, MMA math does not work Dean, you know

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Speaker 3: Doan? You know, no does work.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you come up here with this bs, Dan,

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Speaker 2: and the fact that you're tripling.

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Speaker 4: Down, Dean, tripling down on it.

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Speaker 2: The competition level raises, and then the knockout stopped and

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Speaker 2: then you got another person. First off, don't ever say

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Speaker 2: Rond de Ralci again, because you couldn't recreate Ronde Ralci.

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Speaker 2: You can't recreate Connor McGregor. You can't do what you

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Speaker 2: did the first time again.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that?

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Speaker 4: I know?

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Speaker 1: So I'm making the analogy that she's a pretty girl

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Speaker 1: that has a finishing ability. She has a finishing ability. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that analogy that they could create a star based on that.

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Speaker 2: But Dean, you know how they always say you catch

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Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle. That happens once. There's only gonna

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Speaker 2: be ever one Rond de Ralci. Any, dude, If Valentina

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Speaker 2: Chef Tanko has not rolls to that level of stardom.

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Speaker 3: No what will Because she's won as much as anybody

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Speaker 3: in the world, even Amanda bro when she was winning

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Speaker 3: all those fights. Never rolls to that level of stardom.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you that I think Dakota Jakeva de

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Speaker 1: Cheva could I think she could have. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what happened now because the UFC probably will never get her,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still tripling.

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Speaker 2: Down on it, and I'm saying vagamunt on Calive, I'm

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Speaker 3: Every day, all day. Give me a world champion male fighter.

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Speaker 2: I don't care where he's from over someone that is

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Speaker 2: fighting in a different organization that we don't know that

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Speaker 2: it translates. But I think this young lady's phenomenal. I

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Speaker 2: just think that Dean Thomas has completely lost his mind

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Speaker 2: and this is.

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Speaker 3: Why we may get canceled. Wrong two Charles Olivera.

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Speaker 2: Dean was supposed to fight Ralfaiela's Eve in Brazil. I

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Speaker 2: was very very hard on the decision to do that.

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Speaker 2: After Charles got knocked out, fazebe falls off of the

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Speaker 2: fight card, Charles Olivera now needs an opponent. Mattis Gamrock

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Speaker 2: said he's ready to fight Charles o'lavera. Diego Lopez has

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Speaker 2: said he would go up and he would fight Charles o'lavera,

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Speaker 2: but Charles said he doesn't want Gamrock.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want a wrestler. He's been preparing for a striker,

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Speaker 3: but Dean. Charles also said earlier.

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Speaker 2: Don't buy into the idea that these guys are all

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Speaker 2: itching for a fight because they've been offered it and

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Speaker 2: they won't take it. If you're Charles Olavera, Dean, are

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Speaker 2: take any fight? And if Mata's Gamerd is the guy, Mataz,

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Speaker 2: Gamerd is the guy. Even though Charles goes, I don't

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Speaker 2: really want to fight a wrestler.

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Speaker 4: You gotta he got a double he got a back

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Speaker 4: down on that. He's got to back those statements.

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Speaker 1: I mean, backcheck those statements, because after coming out and

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who said he would fight you

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Speaker 1: and then and then he said yes, and now you

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Speaker 2: That's bad then, and I love Charles, but that's bad, Dean.

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Speaker 4: That's bad. You can't do that, Charles.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that, Charles, you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I think that you gotta hope that Diego Lopez somehow

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Speaker 2: trying to take him down Gamrock, that's all he would

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Speaker 3: Charles just said, Dean, it's bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing, but Charles just said, I'd have to

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Speaker 2: change my entire game plan. I've been preparing for a

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Speaker 2: Gamrock who's wrestling as much. I'd have to change everything,

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Speaker 2: and I don't really want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem that he was like, it's not a

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Speaker 1: good look. He was telling all these guys it's not

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Speaker 1: a good look. With Charles, this is not a good look.

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Speaker 1: You can't criticize these guys for not accepting fights and

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Speaker 1: then you not accept the fight. Like, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: preach it, you gotta practice it. So he gotta step

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Speaker 3: He has to take the fight if that's the fight

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Speaker 3: that's offered. I believe there are some better options, though.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe you look at a Moi Kano, you look.

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Speaker 2: At a Diego Lopez, because Diego Lopez has nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem with the Diego Lopez fight. He just

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Speaker 2: had that big win at New Cha UFCM.

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Speaker 3: So that dude's riding hot. Dude's riding hot.

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Speaker 2: I would prefer Olivera to get a fight that is

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Speaker 2: as dangerous to catch him because he got knocked out

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Speaker 2: so bad last time.

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Speaker 3: Look. I like the Moi Kano fight. I like the

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Speaker 2: Brazilians fighting in Rio dejon Niro and Charles is the

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Speaker 2: I first off, after watching Bud fight Canelo, which was

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Speaker 1: I watched this and we have our priorities way misplaced

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Speaker 3: See why why?

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Speaker 1: Just the fact that like every time when when Jake

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Speaker 4: This fight shouldn't be happening. And then he didn't even

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Speaker 3: I thought it was that was the craziest thing.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing that stood out to me the

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering how this even came about it. It can't

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Speaker 4: That can't be the reason.

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Speaker 3: Why World Champions so recently. How could he be broke?

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like, is he doing this for money?

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Speaker 1: And how's even Jake Paul doing this when no one

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Speaker 2: But Jake Paul has been able to carve out and

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Speaker 3: He kind of makes his own rules.

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Speaker 4: He makes his own rules, and it.

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Speaker 2: Seems like people are playing by those rules. I remember

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that's happened since the beginning of time.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are very powerful in boxing, but with ZUFA boxing,

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Speaker 2: They were very disappointed. But how can you take those

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Speaker 4: That's my point. That's my point.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think that this whole thing that we have,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand why I talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't know why they were fighting, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: Giontae Davis's last fight was at one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and thirty six pounds. Jake Paul seriously his last

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Speaker 4: Was at one hundred and thirty six pounds. And we

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Speaker 2: No, Bro, When I hear the boxing broadcast cut off

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Speaker 4: They said that about Canelo. They was like, Canelo put

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