WEBVTT - Succession S4 Ep 8 + Yellowjackets S2 Ep 7

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast contains spoilers for season four episode eight of

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<v Speaker 2>Succession on HBO, season two episode seven of Yellowjackets on Showtime. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Jason Sepsion and I'm Rosey Night and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to x Revision, the Crooked media podcast where we

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<v Speaker 2>dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>In this week's very intense episode, it's market Moves and

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<v Speaker 3>then moving all over the place, up, down, all around. Terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>terrible times. In Succession season four episode eight. Trigger warning,

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<v Speaker 3>it's too much like the real world. It's too much

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<v Speaker 3>in the airlock. It's getting intense in the forest. In

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<v Speaker 3>Yellowjackets season two episodes, you thought last week's episode had

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<v Speaker 3>a bomber ending, wait till you see this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>And in Nodout, we've got a Yellow Jackets theory from

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<v Speaker 3>listener Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, Market Moves. I wanna be the CEO.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanna do it all alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Rigging votes is my real test beating move.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I will elect a president to live in the House

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<v Speaker 2>so white.

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<v Speaker 1>In turn, he'll regulate kill the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>From inside Market Moves, that's right, it's Market Mooves, folks.

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<v Speaker 4>The number one source for economic prosperity.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's grow that bank account, folks. We're talking about episode eight,

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<v Speaker 2>America Decides of the Succession television program written by Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong himself, and it is it's a tense one. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I speak for you, Rosie. Everybody on our staff

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<v Speaker 2>and every listener of the market moves Financial success audio program.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say I hope our next presidential election is

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<v Speaker 2>just like that, I hope it happens exactly that way.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the American dream. If you're in line, folks,

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<v Speaker 3>stay in line. Bere's we're changed in the paradigm. It's

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<v Speaker 3>election day, Tom, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the future of American democracy is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>on edge. He's under tremendous pressure to deliver massive ratings

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<v Speaker 2>and explosion of ratings lest he loses job. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the first post Logan election night at ATM

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<v Speaker 2>and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to be big.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken knows the stakes. It's the post As we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his dad is gone. He is now the

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<v Speaker 2>co CEO along with Rome, and so they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>really make it happen. So he really puts the spurs

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<v Speaker 2>to Tom, telling him like it's gotta be huge, it's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be big. Tom in turn, is toxic and

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<v Speaker 2>abusive as we like to his staff.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to see efficiency, we love to see fear.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to see lots of people fired and the

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<v Speaker 2>remaining employees to live in a state of constant anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>That's capitalism, folks, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What we love.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Tom, you know, really rides them and he

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<v Speaker 2>tells them like, let's put the most mentally unwell people

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<v Speaker 2>on the air, because that's what gets the ratings, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what are that's what our audience loves. Much more

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<v Speaker 2>experienced in terms of elections. Staff says, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>it says to Tom, hey, your foot where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be on your feet all night, you gotta have comfortable shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Those shoes aren't gona be comfort.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Tom is also worried that he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to piss his pants, you know, like an astronaut, which

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<v Speaker 2>leads us to our first prompt, Rosie, when you have

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<v Speaker 2>to get comfortable total maximum comfort level, because you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to settle in for like a long drive, or you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be on your feet for a long period

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<v Speaker 2>of time. Because there's a mega mega mega important election

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<v Speaker 2>that's going and you are running the coverage, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>won't get to get to a bathroom because if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the bathroom, some malfunction will happen. Nobody will

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<v Speaker 2>be there to fix it. What is your go to

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<v Speaker 2>comfort outfit?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoo? If I'm running as I am, you know, multi

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<v Speaker 3>headed corporations, I'll just wear wherever I want. I'll wear

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<v Speaker 3>some Vori sweatpants. Yes, I did like. I will take

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<v Speaker 3>a note. I liked the when they showed different people

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<v Speaker 3>who worked at ATM's Feet. All of them were wearing

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable slippers. I will join them. I will wear shoes,

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<v Speaker 3>some big, cushy, expensive ug boot. I will be extremely comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>And then, you know what, just to add little chaos,

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<v Speaker 3>just in case I gotta go on a zoom call,

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<v Speaker 3>gotta fire a few hundred people over the internet, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just wear like a buttoned down shirt and tie. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pure chaos, but I think it it does double duty.

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<v Speaker 1>I for no.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason at all, I'm going to echo your take and

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<v Speaker 2>say that I would wear the Viory Sunday joggers on

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<v Speaker 2>my pants and also on my I'd wear one on

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<v Speaker 2>each arm, one pair on each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't wear like a single pair on my upper

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<v Speaker 2>body because then it would constrict my movement. But I'd

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<v Speaker 2>have one pair on each arm, the pair the normal

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<v Speaker 2>way on my legs, and I have another pair on

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<v Speaker 2>my head, and then I would just kind of wrap

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<v Speaker 2>maybe five or six of them around my torso to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of keep that covered, because I believe in modesty

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want I don't want to show too

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<v Speaker 2>much skin, but I want to be extremely comfortable, and

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<v Speaker 2>I find that the Viori fabrics, again just this is

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<v Speaker 2>completely my unbiased opinion, are the most comfortable of fabrics,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps ever created by human hands. I think you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to go to like some kind of fantasy world where

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<v Speaker 2>elves create magical garments to find a garment that is

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<v Speaker 2>that most comfortable as that it's really true.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could intimidate people with the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>extra legs that you had kind of flailing around your body.

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<v Speaker 3>You could stuff them if you wanted to make it

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<v Speaker 3>look like you had multiple arms, some kind of goro

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<v Speaker 3>intimidation technique, or you could choose them to hide important

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<v Speaker 3>documents as you go around doing the inevitable shady things

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<v Speaker 3>that you would need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all all stuff that I may or may

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<v Speaker 2>not do. I don't want to lock myself down say

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<v Speaker 2>anything that could be used against me later. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's right. I think that's right. And you always

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep people guessing as to where your limbs are.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg uh has apparently been hanging out with Mattson, with Madson.

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<v Speaker 2>He's spent the evening at some very lurid establishment, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>forcing senile older men to dance, which is so troubling it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds absolutely haunting. But Greg is loving it. Because Greg

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<v Speaker 3>is moving up of the desperate succession ladder and he

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<v Speaker 3>he is climbing higher than some may expect.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, I agree with you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think what would be the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most surprising outcome this season? You know, you could you

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine this character, that character rising high or bottoming out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think truly one of the most surprised, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, other than Willam, Greg the egg ending up

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<v Speaker 2>on top somehow or or nearer the top is would

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<v Speaker 2>be so shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's looking likely.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Agree, and I think it's something that from the very

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<v Speaker 3>earliest days of the historical documents that have shown us

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<v Speaker 3>what has occurred in the roy family. Many viewers have thought,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't it be so ironic and tasty and delectable if

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<v Speaker 3>strange cousin greg who may or may not even really

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<v Speaker 3>be related to anyone and who is just absolutely useless,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't it make a lot of sense for him to

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<v Speaker 3>end up on top? Isn't that the topsy turvy world

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<v Speaker 3>we live in? And I do believe that this episod

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<v Speaker 3>so we may be getting that I need to say

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<v Speaker 3>as well, like I have.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I've said I understood my shave aligned with Matson.

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<v Speaker 3>But we learn in this episode that, as many people suspected,

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<v Speaker 3>myself included, Madson is a live wire. He does not care.

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<v Speaker 3>He will tell Gregory Peggory some important, very secret information

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<v Speaker 3>that will end up causing a big problem, and he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't even care. He'll do it while he's dancing with

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<v Speaker 3>a sexy old see no man.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh. Exit polls suggest that while it is uncomfortably

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<v Speaker 2>close for those of you who you know wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>a fascist president.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know that small minority.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that it looks as if Jimenez and Evis are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take the nights are looking good. Uh, It's important

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<v Speaker 2>we learn that the ATN folks in the know who

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<v Speaker 2>know about poll numbers not leak that or even hint

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<v Speaker 2>at it on air because they could lose their election

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<v Speaker 2>certification something or other. And also it would be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as an attempt to swing the election for a candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I gotta tell you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to be seen doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not want to be seen doing that. But

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite thing about this information that they are guided

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<v Speaker 3>with is that it then becomes essentially a battle plan

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<v Speaker 3>of how they can do just that. And it is

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<v Speaker 3>impeccable that they took the advice, and we're like, that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds great, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shiv is of course pulling for Jimenez while Roman is

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<v Speaker 2>marching and ce kaling for Herminken HIV facetimes Lucas. She's

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<v Speaker 2>still they're still working together. Of course, as we just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>she wants Lucas to release a statement about the Indian numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>to get in front of that news, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a great time to do it because the

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<v Speaker 2>nation is going to be absolutely entranced by the election.

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<v Speaker 2>And the results of the election. This is the time

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<v Speaker 2>to just news dump news, dump news, dump news dump.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucas drops that he has uh, you know, been discussing

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<v Speaker 2>India with his team, and also.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Gleig.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Cash just casually laying the biggest snake in the wild,

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<v Speaker 3>the most power hungry wild person. Just let him know

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<v Speaker 3>in a club. But there was definitely plenty of other

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<v Speaker 3>people who could have over heard. And that's not the if.

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<v Speaker 2>If they if they were not hard of hearing, as

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<v Speaker 2>this older gentleman may have been. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you are clutching an older man who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to dance to your chest and making him dance, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably not listening to f Yeah, someone is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on the business details that are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of moving back and forth. Shiv is of course alarmed

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<v Speaker 2>by this, like what.

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<v Speaker 3>The fuck are you talking to?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to great.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And Lucas is basically just like, hey, here's a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>What about we just never say anything about the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Prompt number two, Rosie, that's the best day to release

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<v Speaker 2>bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>The best day to release bad news. And I say

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<v Speaker 3>this as many years as a journalist and the enertiment business.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you the best day to release bad

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<v Speaker 3>news is at like five pm on a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the plan, baby, that's what you've got to do.

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<v Speaker 3>If you see a studio announce some news right then oooh,

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<v Speaker 3>they do not want you to see it now. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four our news cycle, internet news cycle is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of different, but that is generally the best rule. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Shiv is absolutely right here. It's also great to release

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<v Speaker 3>it within a very busy twenty four our news cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>Matson is very unlikely to become the main character of

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<v Speaker 3>the news here. Nobody's gonna carey, oh, some fluffed up

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<v Speaker 3>numbers like that's just that's normal. That's what tech people do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not gonna make the news when you have people

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<v Speaker 3>setting mail in vote offices on fire and voting an

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<v Speaker 3>electoral fascist. So ship is not wrong. But if you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking to drop a press release, you want no one

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<v Speaker 3>to see Gopher end of business day Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great it's it's absolutely a classic. It's tried

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<v Speaker 2>and true. You know, if I say we're we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be charged with insider trading and bring that up

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<v Speaker 2>for absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely not gonna happen. Of course, this is why we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. This is why you trade on the outside,

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<v Speaker 3>make the outside money.

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<v Speaker 1>I trade. I'm it's all outside.

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<v Speaker 3>All the trading I do is out doors, outdoors and

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<v Speaker 3>touching grass and trading the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Never never, never indoors inside. That's no roof. That is

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<v Speaker 1>almost is the roof, and there is no roof. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the limit. What's the limits limit, there's no roof, no ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>That said.

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<v Speaker 2>I always like to peg bad news to whatever holiday

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<v Speaker 2>is around.

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<v Speaker 3>If there is gonna, says we ken is great too,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Very If it's calendar dependent, I like to do like

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<v Speaker 2>eleven fifteen pm Eastern on New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's great, you know something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I wait until someone famous dies, someone famous and beloved,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I just kind of slip it in there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really good, in between the o bits and

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<v Speaker 3>the memorials and just kind of like, oh, inside of trading,

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<v Speaker 3>I lost three billion dollars. Bo love that guy. Rest

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<v Speaker 3>in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big phone call episode. Shiv takes a

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<v Speaker 2>call from Nate. Nate is very, very nervous, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>also feeling hopeful. You know, because of the exit polls,

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<v Speaker 2>we learned that a future him and his administration would

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<v Speaker 2>not have an issue with the Gojo deal. They just

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<v Speaker 2>basically rubber stamp it and let it go, and we

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<v Speaker 2>love that for business. Shiv is promising a new ATN

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<v Speaker 2>for a new administration. Hey, you know, we're being kind.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be gentler, We're gonna be better, We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna love us. It's gonna be great. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be very very very lefty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Nate is like makes a great point where

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, well, then why aren't you reporting on the

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<v Speaker 3>domestic terrorism that is occurring tonight that we're starting to

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<v Speaker 3>get rumblings off on social media. Someone is attacking voting

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<v Speaker 3>offices where they are counting mail in ballots and that

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<v Speaker 3>what they thought was an electrical fire is actually looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it was vandalism. And she's like, yeah, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, we're definitely gotta gotta cover that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, what is fire? Who are people?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just salomons?

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<v Speaker 1>What what is it? What is a person? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>How does a person set a fire? Could it be

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<v Speaker 2>an accident? Could Uh, you know, what is a flannel

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<v Speaker 2>of material? These are all questions that we could ask, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will ask, and we'll be asked over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of this episode. Any question, but who set this fire?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Very important my question no one needs to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken takes a call from his ex wife Ravah.

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<v Speaker 1>She is panicked, of course.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In last episode, we learned that Ken and Roba's daughter, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 2>who is Indian I believe, was pushed by a raven

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<v Speaker 2>head person or a Manken person and they made some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of uh, you know, kind of like racist uttering,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're already on edge and now there's this

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<v Speaker 2>SUV following them, and Ken is like, oh, that's sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's mine. Sorry I put I put private security on

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<v Speaker 2>you and I didn't. I'm sorry I didn't. I should

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<v Speaker 2>have told you, but I didn't mention it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ps Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I everything I do, including secretly putting armed

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<v Speaker 2>men on your tail, is because I love you, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're working on making a kinder, gentler world

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<v Speaker 2>for you, my my beautiful daughter Sophie, who I love

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<v Speaker 2>very much. Maybe we'll see Ken then calls Nate to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the line with Candidate Jimenez, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, Dan Jimenez, when you win, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>should look at tech for no apparently no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no reason at all. You know that definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>because you should look at it to kill the Gojo deal,

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<v Speaker 3>Like say, no reason, Just just look at it, Dodgy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bad, bad things, that huge force, huge force in

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<v Speaker 3>our world, and maybe you should look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Prop Number three.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, although I may be wrong, that this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that we see candidate Jimenez, certainly this season.

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<v Speaker 2>So this leads me to my next prompt. This is fiction,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, work of fiction, this show that we take

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<v Speaker 2>very seriously. So seriously we've modeled an entire fake show

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<v Speaker 2>after this show. The minimum age for to be president

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<v Speaker 2>is thirty five. But let me ask you this is

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<v Speaker 2>it realistic to elect someone for president who is not

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine years old?

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie? That is the prompt. Look, come on, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be eighty nine to ninety ninety one, high eighties

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<v Speaker 1>at least president.

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<v Speaker 3>It is part of the American rule, the American law.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the Constitution it says you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be like ten years away from dying or you can't

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<v Speaker 3>be the president. Right. That's like, that's a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of the American rulebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you don't want anybody in there who hasn't lived

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<v Speaker 2>a full and I mean full, like right to the edge,

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<v Speaker 2>life like right to the end that candles all the

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<v Speaker 2>way down. You don't want them thinking about just life

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because they've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>They've done it. They're not going to be distracted. They've

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<v Speaker 3>spent many life, they've lived through multiple depressions. They have

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<v Speaker 3>played and manipulated the markets through those depressions and made

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<v Speaker 3>very very, very large amounts of money. And now they're successful.

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<v Speaker 3>They're in their eighties, they're out here, they're being presidents.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not showing up for votes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, high is they're all, okay, what's your ideal

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<v Speaker 2>age for a president? President elect?

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred and two?

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I also life experience, lived a century. They remember before

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<v Speaker 3>these things existed, like tech. They can go up against tech.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, what's tech? They don't have Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say, with no cybernetic enhancements, no kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cryo tubes, just like a raw dogging life, a

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<v Speaker 2>human being that just lived, uh, you know, without any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of uh special medical technology things to keep them going.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, yeah about one hundred, like one o two,

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<v Speaker 2>one oh three.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. I think that's the sweet sport.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what everybody wants, so that you can get out

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<v Speaker 2>of your second term by like one o eight one

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<v Speaker 2>oh nine and then quietly pass away, you know, happily.

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<v Speaker 2>Rome heads to the Menken lif to meet with the

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<v Speaker 2>Menca Nights. Jared MANCN is pissed that Rome wasn't able

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver Connor dropping out of the race, and mancan

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<v Speaker 2>tells Roman that, you know what, it looks like we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna lose to Night.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like it. I want to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very focusbut on losing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very focused on losing. I think losing is winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the new winning is losing because when I lose,

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<v Speaker 2>I can throw just dirt on the entire process and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look how rid this entire processes, and that will set

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<v Speaker 2>me up to win the next time around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He wants to destabilize the American government and economy

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<v Speaker 3>so that he can take it when it's vulnerable. Very

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<v Speaker 3>historical precedent for that, don't google who's done that? In

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<v Speaker 3>the past. You don't need to do that, but it

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<v Speaker 3>has been done. It has been done. And I will

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<v Speaker 3>say this is a scene that introduces one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best word word uses this episode that will continue to go.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants Roman to help him with the narrative, and

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<v Speaker 3>you will now hear the word narrative come up in

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<v Speaker 3>every other sentence. Everybody is worried about the narrative. Jared's

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<v Speaker 3>dream narrative is that he was maligned and oppressed and

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<v Speaker 3>pushed to the side because he was the real working

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<v Speaker 3>man's candidate. But obviously that narrative could change, and atn sadly,

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<v Speaker 3>well gladly depending where your stocks are. For everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>a big handle on shaping that narrative. As we will see.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at at and Headquarters, Greg is asking Tom, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>important questions about his role with the company going forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, where's my fucking coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>Greg?

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<v Speaker 2>And Greg is like, hey, man, I just fired three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do coffee anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It was yeah, it was either one hundred people in

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<v Speaker 2>three days or three hundred people in a day, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do coffee anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tom makes a very measured statement, a very measured response.

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<v Speaker 3>Very realistic, relatable. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>When he says, listen, if you don't get my coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be chaos, and that chaos is gonna spread,

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<v Speaker 2>and that and China's going to invade Taiwan and that

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<v Speaker 2>means world War three and that means the nukes are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna fly, and that means the end of all complex

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<v Speaker 2>life on Earth, And like, do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for that because you didn't get my coffee? And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, in that case, if it's that important,

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<v Speaker 2>we should do something a little stronger, No, a little

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<v Speaker 2>more powdery. No, what do you think about that? So

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<v Speaker 2>I think very reasonably, just completely a very completely reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do. Greg and Tom snorted a little coke

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<v Speaker 2>off the back of their hands behind a whiteboard.

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<v Speaker 3>And Greg has put himself in a terrible situation here

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<v Speaker 3>because Greg did not want to do drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to do Greg didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>two nights in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted he didn't want to get addicted. He hadn't. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I might get addicted. Do it two nights

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<v Speaker 3>cine arroo, and he decided that he would have to.

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<v Speaker 3>He got pay pressure by Tom. You know, understandable. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have a prompt for you, Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good, good good.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is Tom so tired? Why is he so tired?

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<v Speaker 3>Last episode he needed to go to sleep at the party.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode, he needs his coffee or he's gonna fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>He so tired, Jason? Why is Tom so tired?

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<v Speaker 1>Low t no testosterone.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not taking his ATN, not taking his ATN testosterone pills.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got to start taking them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are many products on nugenic I'm sure Nugenics for one,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is one that has come highly recommended, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>by older athletes of an American extraction. Doug Flutie, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>has handled his low te problem through nugenics. Eugenics not

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<v Speaker 2>a sponsor of the Market Moves program. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>saying I think Tom should perhaps look into it, or

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<v Speaker 2>like a human growth hormone or some other kind of

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<v Speaker 2>low testosterone.

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<v Speaker 1>Amplified that he should look at it. I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's you're right to flag it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the maybe the tea is low. Dad said he

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<v Speaker 2>did father a child recently. He'll get to that, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>find that out.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll find that so, but you know what, for now,

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<v Speaker 3>for now he's got you know, good old toot, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got the cocaine. He's going to keep going. That's going

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<v Speaker 3>to keep him going for now, but it will probably

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<v Speaker 3>make him tired tomorrow. Spoiler warning tom you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be tired again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the rule? You can't do it two days

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, so you can you skip a day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not get addicted if you do it. I do

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<v Speaker 3>believe that when you go to school in certain states,

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<v Speaker 3>they probably tell you that if you do drugs once

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<v Speaker 3>or twice in a row, you will become addicted. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe if the books say so, it could be true.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Greg needs to worry. That motherfucker is tall.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like his metabolism is very fast. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be okay. I was very impressed actually

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<v Speaker 3>by his good point, skilful attempt not to do the

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<v Speaker 3>coke and pretend to do it. It was That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of my old time favorite great moments. It was very good.

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<v Speaker 3>But now they're both on coca and that's obviously gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be great for democracy because everyone knows best decisions are

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<v Speaker 3>made while you're on cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>Connor calls and he harangues Tom about the pro con

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>stories that are out there on social media, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>not making it to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no con coverage. I have not even seen

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 3>Conn's face for the con comment. He says, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>give me some sugarman.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe everyone voted for me. You don't know to which

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Willis says Schrodinger's cat.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, until you count the votes, Tom, you don't know.

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>One could be president, Connor could be president. You don't know.

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>You don't know. Nobody knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, we discover in this episode of Counner and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a bid to be presidential.

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he is a guy who says, shan't and a last.

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<v Speaker 3>He is Willa understandably once again the people's champion. Will

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 3>are coming through here. She says, fuck Kentucky when they

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>discover that con did not win Kentucky, which was one

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 3>of the few places they expected him to win, and

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 3>he says, no, Willa, not fuck Kentucky.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 5>Won't.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I won't be that person. I shan't become that man.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 3>He says, alas Kentucky, Willa, alas Kentucky. That doesn't even

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 3>make sense. But I love it because I use the

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>lass all the times. You love it, Use a lass,

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>It'll make you rich.

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<v Speaker 1>As polls close.

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<v Speaker 2>One of Aten's Steve Kornacky knockoffs has a touch screen malfunction,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tom absolutely now amped to the gills on the

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.719
<v Speaker 2>marching powder, reacts like he is coked to the gills

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>on the marching powder, and Ken calls while this is

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>going on, He's like, what the hell is going on

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 2>with a touch screen? Get that touch green up on.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Smash your head in like a soft boiled egg. Meanwhile,

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>we mentioned Rosie mentioned earlier how there's this been there's

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<v Speaker 2>this robing about a voting center that's been set on

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 2>fire in Wisconsin, a key battleground state.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know, listen it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to go by the facts, see if

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you want to be one of those people who just

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>goes by the fact.

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Just the facts, that's the question.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>The fast the facts, which is like okay, basic, But

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>if you want to be that person, then sure Menken

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Nights did set this voting precinct on fire. It also

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>happens to be a heavily democratic h.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's just a coincidence, Just a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Ken, and Shiv want to know why it's not

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>being covered. Why aren't we covering this? Tom says, because

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>we can't cover it because you think our audience wants

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>to hear about how their side is bad. No, they

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 2>want to hear about how their site is good, and

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>so we.

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Can't cover this.

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<v Speaker 2>And Roman says, well, why not just say it was anybody?

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Why not just say it was antifile? Why not just say,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it was all in.

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Communists that that.

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to just do that. Why can't we just

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>do that? And I you know, that's you know, if

0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to just go by facts, and what a

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.959
<v Speaker 2>boring life you're gonna lead. I live in a I

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>live in a world of pure imagination, Yeah, just like him,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>where everything changes to fit my whims whenever I want.

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a much better way.

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 3>To be definitely more fun when to eat some grass

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 3>that's actually little Mimi flakes while you're burning down a

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 3>vote in mail in ballot space?

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Do it?

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>You could live that well? Pure imagination?

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, Uh, there's you know, kind of like a small

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>wrinkle with the voting center. Turns out that some ballots

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>were lost.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, maybe one hundred thousand, you know, some

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 3>small amount.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Just some small amount of heavily democratic ballots.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>And this news sets making hq at Jimenez hq uh

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<v Speaker 2>racing to kind of shape the post election fire narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that word again, Narrave. Shive meets with Tom Uh.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>She wants to talk fire and narrative.

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Tom is making smarmy faces at her, and he's threatening

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>to blow up her relationship with Mattson. And then he

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>accused of of killing her dad. Kind of unhinged but okay,

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and she responds by telling Tom that she's pregnant by him,

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>and to which Tom responds, is this a negotiating tactic?

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Prompt number four, Rosie, does Tom believe Shiv?

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<v Speaker 3>I do not believe that Tom, in that moment on

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<v Speaker 3>the Marching Powder regime that he has decided to take

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>part in this episode. I do not believe that in

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>the moment he believes her. I actually believe that him

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 3>saying is this a negotiating tactic is the most honest response.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.959
<v Speaker 3>Those two are so far gone at this point. I mean,

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 3>he just accused her of killing her own dad, which

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>is cruel and also just patinly untrue. No matter how

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 3>stressed out. Logan was they are way past toxic. They've

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 3>gone to you know, sub level atomic bun situation here

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 3>where they're just consistently doing the most terrific shit. I

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 3>truly believe that he does think that though as shit

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 3>walks out of the room, I do believe it begins

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>to settle.

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is kind of like, oh, did that really happen?

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I read it a couple of ways. On the one hand,

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that he doesn't believe her. On the other hand,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd think he was also like, well, she might be pregnant,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>but it might not be.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's why he.

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Said something mean. I did think that that could also

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 3>be it. The kind of nate of it all, the

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the open relationship of it all, like that is his

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>ultimate cruel comeback, because in his mind he thinks it's

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>very unlikely that it's his.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>With the ballance burned and the absence te bells not

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>yet counted. Mencoln basically calls ATM. He's he's manc in

0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>HQ is LinkedIn with Roman. Roman is mencn's guy, Mencn's

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>ambassador to ATN, and MENCN just wants hey, just like say,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I won just stop the count and say that we

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>won Milwaukee. Shiv realizes because Roman basically says and Ken

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>confirms that atn's coverage tonight on the Milwaukee incident, the

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>fire and the fallout from the fire, and which way

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 2>that state goes will one hundred thousand, million, billion percent

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>be shaped by the perception that a Mancan administration will

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>kill the Gojo deal. Period, that's it. They will go

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Mancan because mencol will kill the deal, and that's it,

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and they will make that promise.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>So this is a very interesting and bleak episode is bleak,

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>very fucking bleak. But the thing I find most interesting

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>is Shiv is in conflict with herself because now she's like, oh,

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I I a fascist to become president because I'm a

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>liberal and I believe in all these liberal things. But

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 3>she has done everything along the way to be horribly

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>complicit in this. And even I have to say, Kendall,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like he spends a lot of this episode.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>He's not being big boss material. He is in a

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 3>moral quandary.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>He is in a moral quandary. Well listen, like it's

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>all well and good. I think we've all, you know.

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Invitent how the fascist to become president.

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've you know, it's one thing to invite neo

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 2>Nazis and fascists and white nationalists to your party, you know,

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to just come over and have tea and crumpets.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we've all done that.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's another thing to have them stay, you know,

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and in your house. And I think Shiv and Ken

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 2>are dealing with the fact that, hey, I just invited

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>these guys over for like a little NFL on Sunday,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>and now all of a sudden they're moving in.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that what I want? Maybe it is, I don't know. Uh.

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>The ATEN headcore Naki Darwin briefs the Roys and Shiv

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and basically says, like, okay, uh, you can actually look

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>at this precinct which burned, and you can look at

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>the voter rolls and see all the people who voted.

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>And who registered, and you could before and yeah, and

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>they're either Democrats or registered as Republicans, and you could

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 3>basically say here's how they would have voted. H.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Ravenhead is on the air. You remember Ravenhead, of course,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the uh, the ATEN on air talent guy who again

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>loves his Red Mind camp a couple of times because

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>of the wonderfullyster eggs in there, and it named his

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>dog Blondie after some German leaders dog.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I forget who.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>He's basically on the air saying like, oh, so I

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>guess we're you know, like the.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Fire only burned the Democratic votes.

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Now the fires Kiki, and they're gonna tell you who

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to but who voted. And they're not actually gonna count

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>the votes. They're just gonna tell you, oh, these people voted,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 3>and they are gonna take your freedom as American voters.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>And of course it's a masterclass in reflection and shaping

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 3>the narrative.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>The pressure is building. Shive corners Greg and threatens to

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>flat out threatens to murder him.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>This was interesting because there.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Was no it was all stick and I'm not even sure,

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like what the what's the pitch? It's just like do

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>this or or what? And Greg asks like, okay, what's

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 2>in it for me? And she's like, I won't pull

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>your intestines out of your butt.

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 3>That is what she says. I mean, I think the

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 3>pitches don't tell the boys that I am in bed

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 3>with Matson, which of course he knows because Matson is

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 3>just a fucking blaber. Mouth, but like she did not

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 3>approach this the right way, because shit, Greg is first

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 3>of all broke, second of all an idiot. Fird of all,

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 3>he literally asks her for a bribe. He could have

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 3>just given him like one hundred thousand dollars, which to

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>people like us and people like the voice is nothing.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 3>That's like pocket money to shive, to us, to market

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 3>moves listeners who have invested wisely. She could have just

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 3>thrown him, you know, a little bit, a little bit

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>of cash, little bit sweet. And actually Greg probably would

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 3>have stayed quiet just for a little bit longer.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Roman leans on Tom and Darwin the head Kornaki, to

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 2>call Milwaukee from incoling, let's do it, let's do it.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Just say it.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Becaids Wisconsin in his favor. He's gonna get the ten votes.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:34.919
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be great.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Darwin is like, well, we can't really call

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>it because like there's this whole process and it's going

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 2>course and all that. But what we can if we

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of couch it as like a pending call.

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Can you make a chiron, can you make a graph?

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Take a pree call.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>This is punctuated by a Darwin getting Bodego Wasabi in

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>his eyes and then Greg pouring lemon Croy into it. Luckily,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Darwin is able to go on the air and ATM

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>makes a call. Mancin wins Wisconsin. Ken is kind of unhappy.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Connor goes on the air and concedes, basically throwing it

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>to Mancan and saying, hey, you know it's we lost,

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 2>But that Jared Menkin, he's pretty great, isn't he. Yeah,

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And in return for this he will get ambassador to Slovenia.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Shouts to Luka Doncic and Willa is like, well, you know,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>it's very very sad that the country is going to

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>be overrun by Nazis.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, shopping.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 3>In Vienna, you know, Venice the lunch. Also, Connor does

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a goes off script, does a

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a little bit of a jazz thing,

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 3>does some scatting, threatens the country by telling them the

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 3>conheads are coming. He says, so I'm a billionaire. You'll

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 3>have to find someone else's tee to suck a lot.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a terrible performance and I loved every second of it.

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Cornna. Never see you again when you go

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 3>to Slovenia. You're never coming back. The wory's like keeping

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>you that forever.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>So when it becomes clear that Arizona on the up

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and up is gonna go red now at and is Boxington,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 2>they already called Wisconsin pending, but they called it.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>They didn't ever say pending either, like they.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Just right, they just basically called it.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 3>They called it, And so.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 2>With aasy basically going Mancoln, that means they have to

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>call Mencoln as the winner of the presidential election.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Roman is slavering at the mountain.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 3>He's so happy.

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Ken Ken is like, oh, my daughter, hold on a second,

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to call a time out. So in private,

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Ken voices his concerns to Roman and for you know,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>democracy and diversity and the safety of his children and

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>In Romans like fuck it, who can He says that.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>He says, quote, dad's dead in the country is just

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>a big pussy waiting get fucked, which brings us to

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>prop number five. Has Roman always been this bad? Or

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>because Roman's always been bad, Roman's terrible.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 3>He's fallen off the nihilistic cliff and there is no

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>coming back. Multiple times throughout this episode he says nothing matters,

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 3>nothing's real, it's all bullshit, like all we did was

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 3>program a good night of TV. It's almost like he

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>is so depressed and so unhinged and unconnected from reality

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 3>after his dad's death, that this has become like a

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 3>game to him. And I think that as much as

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 3>we know Kendall really wants to run the company by

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 3>himself because he's a little backstab and bitch, I think

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Roman has those designs too, But whereas Kendall wants it

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.760
<v Speaker 3>because Kendall sees himself having some grand legacy like his dad,

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I think to Roman it's just about winning a game.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>It's nightmarishly scary to watch Roman this episode. He doesn't

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 3>like Menkin. Go back a few episodes, he was calling

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 3>him a Nazi. He just he is lavishing in this

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 3>chaotic kind of fucking moral void. It's incredibly scary to watch.

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>It was frightening. I don't know if Roman has always

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 2>been this bad, but I do think Roman is the

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 2>type of person who lowers himself to the level of

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the people around him. And it feels like, listen, the

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>hotline of Jared Mancoln is intoxicating, that kind of like

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>has way to power.

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you like have.

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>The most powerful, potentially person in the world on speed

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 2>dial if you just kind of like push a couple

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>of levers here and there. And I think he's really

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>fired up about that. And I think that he also

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>thinks that, uh, nothing bad.

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:44.919
<v Speaker 1>We're really well.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, a voting place got burned by nazis, okay,

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>but stuff burns all the time. This way, we have

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 2>fire departments. Why do fire departments exist because stuff catches fire.

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 3>He's so in his own bubble as well. Politics has

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 3>never affected any of them at the p One of

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>the most prescient, brilliant real things about that episode is

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>that the party has Republicans, Democrats, all different donors because

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of people, as we know is true

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>in real life, those people are friends. Yeah, those rich

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>people are friends. They stay close. That's the circles we

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 3>move in here at Market Moose. You know, it doesn't

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 3>matter your political alignment as long as you bow to

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 3>the god of money. And Roman I think has been

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 3>so couched in that that he cannot see that mencan

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 3>is not that mencan does not come from that world.

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Mencan will likely not play by those rules. And also

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I think there is an element of the you know

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 3>you talked about Roman. Has he been always been this bad?

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Roman's always been like a troll, and he's enjoyed trolling people,

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 3>whether he's trolling Jerry. This is that full blown edge

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 3>lord bullshit coming to the forefront of like, oh I

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 3>can I can edgeloord Us into having a nightmare President.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 3>He'll call me and he'll ask me what I think.

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>All I know is why didn't you know?

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Stuff uh bursts into flame every day and I don't

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>see anybody caring about it when that happens.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Something's on fire right now?

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 3>How come nobody's it happens every one second and I

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>was talking about it.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Now all of a sudden people care about fire.

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Hyritic Ken goes to shiveh and he says, flat out listen,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Mancoan is offering to kill the deal, just like unambiguously

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>kill it. And he admits that, Hey, I want to

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>run the company myself, and I'm a little threatened by

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Roman's relationship with mancoln uh and so I have some

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 2>hesitations here and she and Shive goes yeah, And then

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 2>hesitation is also because you're a good person. Yeah you

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>kill the kid, Yeah, you've done other bad things. The

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 2>taking of a life the worst, but other.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Stuff, many of other bad things.

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>But you're good. You're a good person.

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you'd say, hey, we fucked up the Wisconsin call,

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you can do that, and you can make us do that,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and we can do that. Now, she does not admit

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that part of the reason that yes, of course she

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>loves democracy. Who doesn't, come on, everyone loves It's great pluralism.

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>She cares about it. But you know, she is also

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>working with Mats and so there is also that angle,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.959
<v Speaker 2>which she does not reveal at this moment. She gets

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 2>on the phone to see if Jimenez can can maybe

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>promise or at least promise to think about killing the deal.

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 2>And does she get through?

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Does she not? She doesn't get through. She bluffs.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 3>I think she even I think she called the number

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 3>POPO is related to not get through, like.

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because even if she she a man would have answered,

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>you're probably right, I would have answered.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Even if she doesn't want to ask Nate, because she

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 3>actually knows that in that situation, she might be the

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>one who could get Nate to say yes. But she

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 3>needs the deal to go through, so she bluffs, and

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I have to say I've been supporting her best season,

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>but this is terrible bluff.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I I let's talk about that. Uh So Shiv bluffs

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and it's a very bad bluff, Like it's obviously.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't sell it.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't sell it at all.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't even doesn't even send Nate like a security text

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 3>to be like, just fucking trust me. If Ken cals,

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 3>you just go with whatever.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Like so Ken gets.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>On the horn with Nate and he immediately figures out

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that she bluffed, and so his spider sense now is tingling.

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>He goes to Greg and be like, what's going on

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>or anything, and this is where he finds out that

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>she's been working with Matts and he comes in.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Greg fed like a piece of fucking paper.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I just need to say, like.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Greg is standing just looking Shive in the face through

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 3>a plate glass window, selling her the fuck out. But

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>you know what, Ship should have known as soon as

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 3>she should have gone to them and been like, I've

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>been playing mats and so I could get all the

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 3>inside of DLS. She did not play this well at all.

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 3>This is a cell Shiv moment. I feel like it's

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 3>gone very badly for this episode.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Sell sell Shive, not an operator, not a person you

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>can deal with. Unfortunately, I was thinking of her dad's

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 2>quote to the to the children, all of the children,

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>you're not serious people.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's not serious.

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>She is not a serious person at all.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 3>She's an un serious person. At this point, this was.

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Really bad, shif like, you fucking chuffed it.

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>That was awful. So Ken comes in. He says, you're

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>working with Matson. She denies it, but she's fucking absolutely caught.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>And now Ken is on the Menka train. Shi is

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, pulls out her you know, final like ace

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in the hole, which is like, I guess I'll go public,

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>uh and be like, hey, you're all terrible people and

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you did this quick crow over the Gojo deal and

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why you made the call. And Ken Roman are like,

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't believe you. We don't believe you do that.

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So by MANCN gives a victory speech that is something

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 2>out of an early gear mor del Toro movie, Like

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>he looks like he's about to rip off his face

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and turn into a demon.

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 3>This is all school fascism.

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Mancan calls Roman. Ken maybe has a sliver

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of anxiety about the closeness of their relationship. This phone

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>call like he's calling my brother. Tom meanwhile is being

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>personally attacked for the ATM call, like he is the

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>focal point of that call. Shiv gets on the horn

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>to Lucas, trying to muster some kind of response to this.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Lucas is like, holy shit, you guys elected a fascist. Wow,

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And Siv is like, okay, get your head together. We

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>need to figure out a way to fuck over our

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>brothers and get Manken out of here. And while Ken

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>tries to go see his family and his daughter, whose

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>security is now very much a threat under a a

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>in a nation ruled by Jered Mancon, but rathers like

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 2>we're sleeping.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh who that is?

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the election night in the world of succession,

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and it is a doozy, folks.

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 3>It was a doozy, definite doozy. I will say, now, look,

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 3>we said Selshiv, and I do still believe that simply

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 3>just because I think that the only way this ends

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 3>at this point is with all of Roy's probably going down.

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 3>But you know, they say, hell, hath no fury like

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>a woman scorned. What does Shiv know that you, Jason,

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 3>the knowledgeable stocks and bonds economic type person, that you

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 3>are you had mentioned that you felt like Ken could

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 3>be taken down by somebody rat sucking him with the

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, whole murder thing, the little thing about the murder.

0:46:57.560 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>The little thing about the murder.

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that has to be the front of

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Shiv's mind when it comes to rap fucking the brothers.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Is it enough and does it do enough?

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Do you? But I'm buying it though with them purposefully

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 3>using the news to get a deal killed, you know,

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 3>like those two things together, does that make enough of

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 3>a problem to get rid of them, even though ATM

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 3>would surely survive.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you.

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I think you do it like like a one two punch.

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I think you come out with so much heat on

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 2>this election. I think you come out right away and

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you say, my brothers did a handshake deal with Jared

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 2>MANCN that they would call Wisconsin for him, despite the

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 2>absence of hundreds of thousands of votes, thousands of votes

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that surely would have tilted Democratic, in return for a

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 2>promise from Jared Mancon to lop the head off the

0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>GOJO deal as soon as he is in the old

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 2>full office. And I think you lead with that, and

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I think you let that kind of boil and stew

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 2>for like a week two weeks that go, you know,

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of wash around the news cycle like two three times,

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 2>and once that is starting to like fade and shrink

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, then you hit him with oh, by

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:17.879
<v Speaker 2>the way, my.

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Brother killed a guy. Yeah, and he told me about it.

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>It was at my wedding and in Italy, you know,

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>after he tried to commit suicider before or sometime around then,

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 2>he admitted to me and my brother and that he

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 2>did kill a waiter at my wedding.

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that that would be a huge hit obviously

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.879
<v Speaker 3>for Kendall. I do believe that Kendall and Rome could

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 3>be seen on their way out and have the board

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 3>do the Gojo deal and then I go out with Greg.

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I think when you.

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Go, I think you go for a triple too.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:00.439
<v Speaker 2>After you let the PS my brother kill the guy

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>wash around for a little while, then I think you

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe ad for a week or two weeks ago. PS,

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 2>my other brother Roman was sending our lead Council of

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Waste star Royco Jerry Dick pics for an extended period

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of time and also sent our data dictics at a meeting.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 3>And you know what, I think that Shiv could possibly

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 3>get Jerry on side for that if it meant a

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 3>bigger payout for Jerry. I think Jerry is sick of it. Okay,

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 3>let me ask you this, what is Tom's fate? Because this,

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 3>to me, I feel like Tom's road is at an end.

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 3>This feels like a Shakespearean tragic end to his ladder climbing.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, he basically waited for the kids to tell

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 3>him what to do. But here's the one. His face

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 3>is being put all over the actual the liberal news media,

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 3>even the right wing media people are saying he called

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Wisconsin too early and it is his fault. And not

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 3>only that, but he is in the pocket of Jared Mankin,

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and they say, this man knows Jared Mankin. He's an

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 3>associate of Jared Mankin. Did Tom's quest for ratings? Did

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 3>that set him on the path to ATN execution? Is

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 3>he out?

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I think Tom? Well, it depends.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I think Tom is out. I think his career is

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be essentially over. He is the face of this. Yeah,

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Ken and Rome are going to moon walk away from this.

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not going to take the blame for it. It's

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be all about Tom and that narrative is

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 2>already taking shape, and I think as a result of this,

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Tom is going to find himself as like the you know,

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:41.240
<v Speaker 2>the CEO or the head of programming at like whatever.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>The Succession Universe version of the Blaze.

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Is yes, yes, yes, yes, some.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Right wing YouTube channel they were kind of like yeah

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>for like a low six figure salary. That is going

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 2>to make him very, very miserable and unhappy because he's

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 2>working with people like who don't drink wine?

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, And I do feel like obviously this episode in Succession,

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 3>as we said, feels very rooted in reality. But the

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 3>last question I have for you is like, how far

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 3>so we know Kendall drops it at the end of

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the episode when he's on the phone to Rava. Next

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 3>week is the funeral, so we know that's no longer

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 3>going to be the finale. How far do you think

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that we see the nightmarish Nazi ramifications of menking go

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 3>in that final episode. Do you think it's going to

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 3>like jump a shark potentially or do you think it's

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be more like ominous kind of ripple effect?

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Where do you see that going?

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I think we don't get too much more of it. Honestly,

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I think when we leave this story, the election is

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 2>still going to be being litigated in the courts, but

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 2>that ultimately it will be Jimenez and but that we

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 2>don't go too much deeper on it. It'll just be

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:51.720
<v Speaker 2>about these people.

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're right. I think one of the

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 3>smartest things about Succession is they spent you know, four

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 3>seas and basically saying, look at how stupid these people are,

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 3>look at all the terrible mistakes they made, and look

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 3>at how rich they are, and don't worry though, because

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 3>they're just rich and they just really only affect their

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 3>own world. And I think it's an incredibly smart move

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 3>that at the end they were like, oh, but now

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 3>they are directly impacting you and your lives and who

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 3>is president, and however you feel about that, positive or negative,

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 3>that is what is happening. I mean, we see that

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 3>the three siblings essentially choose the outcome of American democracy,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 3>and I just think that in itself is the bleakest

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:37.839
<v Speaker 3>statement that the show has to make. So I agree

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 3>with you. I think that we get the funeral. I

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 3>think the finale's probably gonna deal with whether or not

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 3>the Gojo sale goes through, and I think we leave

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 3>the world in a kind of bleak state of Oh,

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 3>look what the Roys did.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 6>Up next Yellow Jaggets, We're stepping out of the airlock

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 6>and into the wild wilderness of Yellow Jackets Season two,

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 6>episode seven.

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 3>If you thought succession was bleak, Oh baby, are you ready?

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 3>It's an intense time in the forest once again in Burial,

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 3>directed by Anya Adams and written by Rich Monahan and

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Liz Fang. It's a depressing time in the snowy wilds,

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 3>which we are instantly alerted to thanks to the famous

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Batman soundtrack hit Something in the Way by Nirvana. The

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:41.359
<v Speaker 3>girls are still mourning shorn as baby, and the fact

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 3>that they are absolutely snowed in, like snow to the

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 3>windows snowed in is not helping their spirits. But Lotty notices,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.919
<v Speaker 3>was it magic? We don't know? It's seven episodes seven

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:56.360
<v Speaker 3>and season two. We don't know what's going on? Lotty notices.

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 3>The snow is stopped, and suddenly the girls are inspired

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 3>to dream of and survival. They begin to dig themselves out,

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and in a move that will surely relieve many viewers,

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Shawna secretly buries her baby under some rocks, making a

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 3>little baby too, substantially lessening the chance that they will

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 3>eat the baby. I feel she's keeping it away from them.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 3>The baby eating odds are going down.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you come let me ask you this.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of obviously there's been a lot

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of conjecture that they might eat the baby.

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Can you It feels like one of those can they

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>come back from this?

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Like? Do you do you burn these characters if they

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 2>eat the baby.

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that is why they did the dream sequence

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 3>eating the baby.

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I think because you got that horrific visceral shock and

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 3>then the reveal that it wasn't real. Because I don't

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 3>think you can come back now. If they did do it,

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't have killed the baby because the baby did

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 3>die naturally, it seems. But I do agree. I think

0:54:56.200 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 3>that Shawna's put in her little thur baby package and

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>she's putting it under some stones. It's a very moving moment.

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 3>She does it where no one else can see. I

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 3>think we can for now probably say that I think

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 3>baby eating is off the table, because I think you're right,

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 3>these are characters people have grown to love. We see

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 3>them in the adult timeline, and you are meant to

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 3>care about them and care about their journey, and I

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 3>think that could be quite hard to come back from.

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.280
<v Speaker 3>As you point out, Shanna is not the only one

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.960
<v Speaker 3>who is horribly impacted by the death of the baby.

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 3>It's clear that it's affecting all the girls, but none

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:36.480
<v Speaker 3>more so than ty and Van. Tye kind of cries

0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 3>to Van and says, hey, I really thought the baby

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 3>was going to survive. I thought this was something positive

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 3>for us, and Van brings up a very good point,

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 3>which also the showruners have talked about quite extensively. What

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 3>if the baby had survived. What would you do with

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 3>a baby? They're all starving, they don't have any food.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Shauna couldn't breastfeed because she's starving, and it's just another

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 3>mouth to feed. It seems quite bleak from Van, who

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 3>is a bit of a spiritual Lottie follower, But we

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 3>learn here and I feel like this is probably gonna

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 3>be really big going into the next couple of episodes.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Van reveals that she no longer sees her constant gay immortality,

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, getting eaten by a wolf, surviving surviving a

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 3>plane crash where she should have died and also surviving

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 3>her not dead body being burnt after she was eaten

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:28.280
<v Speaker 3>by a wolf. She used to feel like that meant something,

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that she was here for a reason, and Ty's like,

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 3>you are here for a reason, I promise you, like

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 3>you can do it. But Van is on the nihilistic

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 3>train to nowhere, questioning her place in the world and

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 3>the wilderness and wondering why the fuck she's still alive,

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I feel like it's a very relatable position.

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 2>It really felt like Van has done a lot of

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 2>living and learning. She's probably done the most evolving of

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 2>any of the characters that we've seen, and that's why

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 2>it's both fascinating and I think a good development for

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Tie that kind of see them discovering the chemistry.

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>A little bit over the course of this episode.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and they are rediscovering it at Camp Green Pine,

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Lottie's wellness cult, I mean wellness retreat and the Stages is.

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>An intentional They're an intentional.

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Intentional community. Apologies apologies don't suit me. An intentional community.

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 3>And guess what, that community has new members because every

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 3>adult survivor from the core group is there. Lotty is there,

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 3>of course, she's running it. Natalie's there, of course, she's

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 3>basically joined the cult. I think she's playing a long game,

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 3>but it's unclear. Misty turned up to save Natalie. She's

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 3>been there twenty four hours and she is all in.

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 3>She seems to love the cult. Van Tie and Shawna

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 3>all recently arrived. So you have a little bit of

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 3>an unsanctioned Yellow Jackets reunion, and Lotty's not going to

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 3>waste this opportunity. Lot He's like, you're here, let's pick

0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 3>some activities. It's like summer camp, but people probably don't

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 3>have to give up all their worldly belongings to join

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 3>a summer camp. Shawna picks self care. She thinks it

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 3>means spars and you know, painting your toenails, but it

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 3>actually means that she's gonna have to look after a

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 3>very cute baby goat named Bruce.

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>She gets into it, She gets very into it.

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 3>And I have to say, this is one of my

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 3>this is such good writing. But Shawna is just absolutely

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 3>fucking sure that she's gonna have to kill the goat. Yes,

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 3>and everybody is like nobody says it, Like nobody ever

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 3>says it. But she's convinced that she's gonna have to

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 3>look after this goat, grow close to it, and then

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 3>have it die. And I think we can understand where

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 3>that fear is coming from. Tye selects the creepily named Renewal,

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 3>which leads her to painting a cabin with a makeup brush.

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 3>It's very mister Meagi, very karate kid. Van chooses foraging,

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 3>but Van's also like, fuck you, I'm just going to

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 3>forage some whiskey out of my car. Like I'm not

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 3>doing this shit.

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Not doing this. I don't have a lot of time left.

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that exactly.

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do what I gotta make the most of

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 3>what I got. Ye Misty gets left with guidance, sending

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 3>her to an isolation tank, which she is less than

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 3>happy to experience, but where she almoratedly treats viewers to

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 3>a season best sequence that has to be seen to

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 3>be believed. But we will get to that in a

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 3>little while. In a wilderness, coach Ben oh man, he's

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 3>still struggling. I love this is such a cool way

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 3>to kind of I think we're going to be ending

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 3>this part of his disassociation storyline here, but he gets

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 3>he hallucinates getting a call from his ex boyfriend or

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 3>his boyfriend who is still you know, not in the wilderness.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 3>But this time we see his boyfriend in the cabin,

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 3>and Ben is just fully invested in this fantasy, in

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 3>this delusion. He talks to him, he wants to know,

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 3>and the boyfriend's like, no, it's over. You've got to leave.

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 3>We can't do this anymore. And Ben kind of screams

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 3>after him into the forest and all the girls look

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.840
<v Speaker 3>at him, like, who the fuck is Paul, Who are

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 3>you talking to? And Ben's kind of like, oh, don't worry,

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm all good man, I'm doing good. I'm doing okay,

1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 3>And he kind of has a creepy smile on his face,

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 3>which doesn't bode well. No, Misty is digging out the

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 3>cabin and she overhears Aquila, Marie, and Jen celebrating her

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 3>aptitude at Shawna's birth. Yay love to hear a compliment,

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>but quickly she also hears Maray reveal that she thinks

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Misty is more psychotic than ever, and I have to say,

1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:31.919
<v Speaker 3>Maray is not wrong. Mary suggests that Misty actually did

1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 3>something to Crystal, perhaps killed her.

1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, what we say on this program, we

1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:39.720
<v Speaker 2>were right.

1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Mari was right Mary.

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 5>But Misty, being that you know, delightful and always innovative

1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.800
<v Speaker 5>sociopath that she is, uses this intel to manipulate the

1:00:55.880 --> 1:00:58.680
<v Speaker 5>crew by suggesting that they should all go and look

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 5>for her dead friend Crystal, which.

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Kind of wins a keeler over to the side and Marie,

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think she's believing it. So this episode, if

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you have ever wondered about the rules of Yellow Jacket's cannibalism,

1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:13.680
<v Speaker 3>which of course is a large part of the mystery

1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 3>of the show, we start to get hints here about

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:22.240
<v Speaker 3>how that part of the wilderness culture is going to

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 3>be shaped, because Lotti does a little speech about the

1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:29.360
<v Speaker 3>wilderness when Misty suggests going to find Crystal, and it

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:33.040
<v Speaker 3>comes out that Lotty basically believes that Shawna's baby was

1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 3>a sacrifice that allowed Shawna to live. If you remember

1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:42.080
<v Speaker 3>the girls said Marie specifically tactless as ever when Shawna

1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:45.160
<v Speaker 3>was in labor, said Wilderness, I hope Shawna doesn't die.

1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 3>And Lotti seems to have put two and two together

1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and made a supernatural five and decided that the reason

1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 3>the baby died was the wilderness taking that so Shawna

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<v Speaker 3>could live. And I think that that hints quite likely

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<v Speaker 3>that we could the killings that we see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that opening sequence that kind of got the Internet talking

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<v Speaker 3>in that first ever episode of the show, we might

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<v Speaker 3>be in a situation where those killings are sacrifices to

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<v Speaker 3>appease the worldness or to get something that they want.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think something really we get something really interesting here,

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<v Speaker 3>which is some of the JV squad, like Jen and

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of other girls who are like very

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<v Speaker 3>not in the center of the story. They're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if Crystal, if she's missing, if she's dead,

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<v Speaker 3>like what if we just hate her? And they are

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly chill about it. They're like, could be a nice stack,

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<v Speaker 3>like not saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean once you eat one person, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>a person that you like, liked, who was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not well popular, but she was like the queen Bee.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one. Yeah, it was like a main mover

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<v Speaker 1>and shaker in this group, Chris the weirdo. Nobody even

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<v Speaker 1>knew that. Don't eveny know Chrystal exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, That's what I'm saying. And then like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not saying I hope she's not saying. I hope she's dead,

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<v Speaker 3>but like if she if she was, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>like a waste.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope right, if she was dead, I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>the rich and nutritious areas for body are still worth eating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hope that we could have another delicious little

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<v Speaker 3>group barbecue, little little fun delusion for full tommies. But

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<v Speaker 3>Misty is not gonna let anyone eat her friend. She's

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<v Speaker 3>not having it. She goes out to search for Crystal,

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<v Speaker 3>who she's pretending is still alive, with Mari and Aequila

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<v Speaker 3>and does little Meryl Streep style performance. She cries, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do this, it's so hard. She's channeling her

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<v Speaker 3>best Steel Magnolias, and she sneaks off to find Crystal

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<v Speaker 3>before her teammates. Now she says, Crystal, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>let them eat you. But I think she really just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want them to find the dead body, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>then they will probably know she did kill her. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't find Crystal's body at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 3>cliff where Crystal fell to her untimely death. You mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>does anyone really know Crystal? Let's talk about this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>was Crystal real? Did Crystal exist?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Crystal existed, but I also think her quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote death. Uh, you know, it might be a Horvey situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be, you know, like something odd going on that.

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<v Speaker 2>There is something there's a lot of in this episode

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<v Speaker 2>and previous episodes, but definitely overtly in this episode we

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<v Speaker 2>will get to the big one, the big we will

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<v Speaker 2>write there is a lot of people seeing things, having

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<v Speaker 2>full conversations that did not happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I remember from the very first time Crystal

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<v Speaker 3>showed up and this season and she was singing, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was out there in the backyard with Misty, it

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like a lot of their interactions were happening with

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<v Speaker 3>no one else around. Now people were saying, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>look for Crystal, We'll look for your friend, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So the assumption is there was a person called Crystal

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<v Speaker 3>who was in yellow jackets and people seemed to be

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<v Speaker 3>aware of her existence. But the Crystal that we know

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<v Speaker 3>who was Misty's best friend, who Misty killed, it's becoming

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<v Speaker 3>more and more unclear whether that version of Crystal ever

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<v Speaker 3>really existed, and the fact that Crystal's body isn't there

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Harvey's mysterious friend took it. Maybe somebody already found

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<v Speaker 3>it to eat it. Maybe a moose ate it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but the fact it's not there is very suspicious,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we'll likely come into play in these

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<v Speaker 3>next two episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Misty does still never exist. It is interesting, it is, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's interesting because there is a distinct lack

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<v Speaker 3>of interest in finding Crystal, and there is when you

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<v Speaker 3>go back and watch the episodes, Crystal rarely ever interacts

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<v Speaker 3>with anyone, if ever, when Misty isn't there. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just very interested in what that relationship really looks like

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<v Speaker 3>and how Crystal plays into kind of Misty's ongoing journey

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously like deep troubles and struggles with her mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>So she does not find Crystal's dead body, but she

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<v Speaker 3>does find Coach Ben and he's very creepy and calm,

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<v Speaker 3>and he shaved off his beard and he's about to

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<v Speaker 3>throw himself off a cliff. Yes, he's just like I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this is similar to the Crystal lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this did he really shave off his beard or

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<v Speaker 2>or is this he was notably having a hallucination, a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with his partner, and it seemed, at least I

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<v Speaker 2>read it as the shaving was like a reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>either that conversation or.

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<v Speaker 1>Some version of.

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<v Speaker 2>Him has now intersected with this forest reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's definitely some kind of strange acceptance that Ben

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<v Speaker 3>has come to here that seems to be connected to

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<v Speaker 3>his past disassociation delusions and the forest. And it's also

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<v Speaker 3>unclear whether he sees this as committing suicide, like he

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<v Speaker 3>seems very calm about it. He seems like he knows

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<v Speaker 3>what he has to do. And it is a very

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<v Speaker 3>interesting interaction because for once, Misty does not kill someone.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, he actually asks her to kill him. He says, Missy,

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't you just push me off the edge like.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done so many times in the year person who

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<v Speaker 2>kills people?

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't you just do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>And Misty actually have to say in once again we

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<v Speaker 3>are Misty defenders here she uses her evil powers for good.

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<v Speaker 3>She tells him, I'm gonna tell everyone that you were

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<v Speaker 3>like creepy, that you were impregnated. Sure not, She's like

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<v Speaker 3>she's trying, She's like, don't kill yourself, because then I

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<v Speaker 3>will control the narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>I will control the narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, and I'm gonna tell everyone you're gay,

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<v Speaker 3>and that one He's actually like, i'd like you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Please do it.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows in his heart that that was the one

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<v Speaker 3>fuck up that he had made in his past he

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<v Speaker 3>wished he could change, was that he didn't get to

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<v Speaker 3>live out with his partner. But you know what, in

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<v Speaker 3>the end, a non Merril Street performance. I do believe

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<v Speaker 3>Misty was quite upset. Misty breaks down into tears and

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<v Speaker 3>Coach Ben is like, actually, I'm not gonna kill myself,

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<v Speaker 3>shocking you.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think he was a Misty fan. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I think maybe we're seeing him come up

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<v Speaker 3>out of the depths of despair he has been in

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<v Speaker 3>and start to try and be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>active in the cannibal cabin community, which I know has

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<v Speaker 3>been hard for him. Yes it has, it's been hard,

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<v Speaker 3>but this was also I will say, Missy's very lucky

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<v Speaker 3>that this happened, because she absolutely would have got blamed

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<v Speaker 3>for that murder even if she didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing you can't be around listen If you're

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<v Speaker 1>around one dead body, it's an you know it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>she felt, it's an accident. If you're around two, now

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<v Speaker 1>the hard questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Start, and the second one is somebody you already poisoned,

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<v Speaker 3>you already tried, lest we not forget.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at that point, uh, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of the doubt evaporates quite quickly. Yeah, X ray

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<v Speaker 2>vision will be back, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>At Camp green Pine. Misty and Shawna have a little

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<v Speaker 3>argument after Shawna tries to judge Misty about her panchan't

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<v Speaker 3>for killing, and Misty rightfully points out that Shawna is

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<v Speaker 3>also a murderer and not just that. But Shawna wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have even gotten away with it if it wasn't for Misty.

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<v Speaker 3>Shanna says, Misty doesn't take killing seriously. But Misty's like, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I was the only one who took your murder seriously enough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And thank you? Yeah I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where's my thank you? You never even thank me,

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<v Speaker 3>You were never grateful for it. That's bad. It's classy

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<v Speaker 3>Misty home truth. But yeah, can Misty face some home

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<v Speaker 3>truth of her own? Before we get to that Shawna

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<v Speaker 3>tells Lottie, I'm not going to kill the goat and not.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, bro, nobody said you have to kill it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just look after the goat. The goat is innocent. If

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<v Speaker 3>you look after the goat, maybe you start to look

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<v Speaker 3>after yourself better. And this leads to like a massive

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<v Speaker 3>revelation for Shaana where she kind of cries and Melanie Lynsky,

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<v Speaker 3>Melanie Lynsky's at a high level, giving a great performance.

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<v Speaker 3>Shauna basically just says, I've always kept Cally at arm's

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<v Speaker 3>length because I thought she would die or I'd find

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<v Speaker 3>out she wasn't even real, yeah, which is obviously exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to Shana in the forest. So it sounds

1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:27.040
<v Speaker 3>like that trauma of the wilderness is really fucking her up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to say, we always say it about Ty,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm saying it to you, Shauna, get some help,

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<v Speaker 3>not just go to a therapist. Like that's very sad,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wish that you and Callie can find a good,

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<v Speaker 3>non in prison way of bonding before this all ends.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's having great foods at Camp Green Pine Misty heads

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<v Speaker 3>into the isolation tank, and I really love this because

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<v Speaker 3>Misty is like terrified to face herself. She is sure

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<v Speaker 3>that she is going to have a nightmarish time in

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<v Speaker 3>the isolation tank, that she's gonna see all the terrible

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<v Speaker 3>murders she's committed, or you know, have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>all the awful things that she's done. But instead she

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<v Speaker 3>just enjoys a magnificent musical vision which features Walter dancing

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<v Speaker 3>in a top hat a human version of her pet

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<v Speaker 3>parrot Caligular. She's standing in front of like a very

1:12:21.000 --> 1:12:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Twin Peaks lodge red curve.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like big Lebowski.

1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dream Sequence meets Twin Peaks meets meets Altered States.

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<v Speaker 3>And the only thing that even hints towards Misty's past

1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:40.799
<v Speaker 3>is you get this really great illustration of the plane

1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:43.680
<v Speaker 3>recorder that she smashed. You get a little syringe from

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<v Speaker 3>all the people she's murdered driving through. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>she's having a great time. She's laughing, Walter is doing

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<v Speaker 3>a great little dance routine. And then you see Walter

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<v Speaker 3>pull out a Garfield phone iconic. I still want one

1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.519
<v Speaker 3>of those. I wanted when ever since I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>And as the Internet so wonder Flea deciphered he writes

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<v Speaker 3>in morse code as he is dialing, and you see

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<v Speaker 3>it come up on the screen. I love you backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you to those Internet sitters and detectives who found

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<v Speaker 3>that out for us. Hilariously, Misty's only takeaway from her

1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:21.880
<v Speaker 3>isolation is that Water loves her. She loves Walter, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna be like happily ever after together. So she

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<v Speaker 3>calls him and tries to make up. Walter does not answer,

1:13:27.520 --> 1:13:30.960
<v Speaker 3>but she leaves a very unhinged voicemail, which I loved.

1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:33.600
<v Speaker 3>She even does a fake no you hang up, No,

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<v Speaker 3>you hang up, she admits to Adam's murder over the phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you know that thing you said? It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>But will Walter get her message? We don't know because

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't pick up. But you know what, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the only romance going down. Van and Tie they find

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<v Speaker 3>each other in the candle lit groves of camp Pine.

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<v Speaker 3>Why who put out all those candles in the woods?

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<v Speaker 3>Seems dangerous, but you know what, it's romantic and they

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<v Speaker 3>share an illicit kiss. Tis like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a long time so I can be in this and

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<v Speaker 3>Van's like, bro, I can't wait for you literally.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't don't have that, don't have waiting a few times, Sorry, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got cancer. And it's not one of those good

1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:19.760
<v Speaker 3>kinds of cancer where people are like, oh, it's so

1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:21.479
<v Speaker 3>lucky you got this kind or oh we caught it

1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:24.240
<v Speaker 3>just in time. No, remember how my mom died of cancer?

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<v Speaker 3>Well now I got it and I got like months

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<v Speaker 3>to live. And Tie is upset and I wants to

1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:31.640
<v Speaker 3>know why she didn't call. But let's be real, it's

1:14:31.640 --> 1:14:37.519
<v Speaker 3>because Tie sucks. But tis a terrible friend as adult,

1:14:37.840 --> 1:14:39.240
<v Speaker 3>just not doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget the whole thing.

1:14:40.760 --> 1:14:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Ty's wife is currently in hospital in a coma. Where

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<v Speaker 3>is her son who?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Tie put her in that coma.

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<v Speaker 3>I put her in a coma.

1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:54.599
<v Speaker 2>That's right, She's in a coma of ties making. And

1:14:54.640 --> 1:15:00.760
<v Speaker 2>now Tie is off somewhere rekindling the the romance, her

1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:07.759
<v Speaker 2>high school romance shockaches while her her partner, her legal partner,

1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:12.479
<v Speaker 2>cole parent, lies in a coma that she put her in.

1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Terrible stuff, terrible, heart warming scene.

1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Heart warming scene, a terrible scene. So yeah, Lotti also

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<v Speaker 3>has a breakthrough, and I want to say, this is

1:15:23.800 --> 1:15:26.599
<v Speaker 3>a big we were right moment. Jason absolutely called this

1:15:26.720 --> 1:15:31.200
<v Speaker 3>like what work last week? And Lotty's breakthrough is a

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying one because Lotti is sitting with her therapist, who

1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:38.760
<v Speaker 3>we mentioned seemed a little bit of us and as

1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Jason pointed out, we learned this episode that she is

1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:46.640
<v Speaker 3>not real. She gives her some very bad advice. We

1:15:46.680 --> 1:15:48.960
<v Speaker 3>see her saying things to her like, is there anything

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<v Speaker 3>of value in this life that doesn't come with risk? Lotti?

1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:55.720
<v Speaker 3>She says, Lotti, what does self repression ever give us? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the reason you want to see these women is

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<v Speaker 3>because the feral part of you is and what he

1:16:02.360 --> 1:16:05.040
<v Speaker 3>starts to suspect that something is up and then dun't

1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:10.240
<v Speaker 3>dunt dune. The therapist transforms into the ant La Queen,

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<v Speaker 3>who has been a rare sight this last two seasons,

1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:18.560
<v Speaker 3>and she says, does a hunt that has no violence

1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:27.479
<v Speaker 3>feed anyone? Before disappearing. So is this just a straight

1:16:27.600 --> 1:16:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Lotty hallucination or is she being like manipulated by the

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<v Speaker 3>wilderness and the Antler Queen into this kind of magical

1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:38.360
<v Speaker 3>thinking about the girls and having them all there at

1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Camp Green Pine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's some version of the latter. Obviously,

1:16:43.160 --> 1:16:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we I think we're circling around it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's pretty clear that whatever it is

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<v Speaker 2>is coming from the outside and it's you know, there

1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was a time listeners will remember not that long or

1:16:56.080 --> 1:17:00.599
<v Speaker 2>we were pretty sure Lottie was behind in some former

1:17:00.680 --> 1:17:05.080
<v Speaker 2>fashion moving this kind of stuff forward. But it's very

1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:07.840
<v Speaker 2>clear that she is a victim of this like everybody else.

1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I will also say they said something interesting, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that they seem to suggest that nobody really really

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<v Speaker 1>remembers what happened exactly.

1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:21.479
<v Speaker 3>That's about I was gonna I have a big so

1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:24.479
<v Speaker 3>in an extremely bad friend move in my opinion. Van

1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:26.960
<v Speaker 3>brings her bottle of boos to the sharing lord, and

1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:29.200
<v Speaker 3>it seems very fair. It seems like they all try

1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and encourage Natalie to drink, though I will say I

1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:34.720
<v Speaker 3>think Natalie says no, so good for you, Natalie, But

1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I was I was feeling mad about that. I didn't

1:17:36.560 --> 1:17:41.599
<v Speaker 3>feel like that. Yes, I was like drinking and started showing

1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:42.880
<v Speaker 3>her like it was.

1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:44.679
<v Speaker 2>It was bad and then she's like, I have very

1:17:44.720 --> 1:17:45.880
<v Speaker 2>serious addiction issues.

1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh why don't you have a drink?

1:17:47.080 --> 1:17:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And Sean is like, oh, you aren't you a fuck? Up,

1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:52.280
<v Speaker 3>like how you can't be telling us this, And I'm like, bro,

1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:54.880
<v Speaker 3>you are bad friends. Like I'm not surprising Natalie ended

1:17:54.960 --> 1:17:58.120
<v Speaker 3>up so fucked up. But Lottie, I will say in

1:17:58.160 --> 1:18:02.720
<v Speaker 3>a rare responsible moments, and she's like, you gotta leave,

1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:06.080
<v Speaker 3>like none of this is real, Like I'm hallucinating. But

1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.559
<v Speaker 3>they're just like, now we're wasted. We want to get wasted.

1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.639
<v Speaker 3>We want to have fun and drink and dance and

1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:17.120
<v Speaker 3>just enjoy our life. And in an unbelievable moment which

1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I actually had to watch, I had to rewind it

1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:24.240
<v Speaker 3>to really check that they did this. But Misty almost

1:18:24.320 --> 1:18:27.360
<v Speaker 3>kills the vibe by referencing the crash as you know

1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:28.640
<v Speaker 3>that first summer.

1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:33.840
<v Speaker 2>It was so funny, like a summer camp thing, right,

1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and everyone's.

1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Like what the fuck? Like no, and also like first summer,

1:18:38.320 --> 1:18:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, did that happen to you? Again? Like what happened?

1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:45.960
<v Speaker 3>But it does lead to that very big revelation that

1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:48.680
<v Speaker 3>you were mentioning about when Nat asks everyone like how

1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:52.600
<v Speaker 3>much do you actually remember about being there? And it

1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:56.439
<v Speaker 3>seems like they don't really remember very much about being

1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:57.240
<v Speaker 3>in the woods.

1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Now this is a this is mind blowing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I always perceive the flashbacks as remembers.

1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it feels like we and the way that the

1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:12.320
<v Speaker 3>narrative has been structured and edited, we often learn things

1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:16.080
<v Speaker 3>that feel very relevant to where the characters are in

1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the modern day. So the fact that they sort of say, oh,

1:19:19.840 --> 1:19:22.320
<v Speaker 3>for me, it's blurry or like I repressed it, and

1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:24.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, Ty says, it feels like things have just

1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:29.200
<v Speaker 3>been completely pulled out of her brain. That's very supernatural,

1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:30.000
<v Speaker 3>leaning to be.

1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, s same here, which leads me, I guess these

1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>are just I mean again, I always thought that the

1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>flashbacks were their memories, but clearly they're not, and so

1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I think we can take them. On the one hand,

1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that the upside is we can take those

1:19:53.479 --> 1:19:55.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot more seriously.

1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:59.480
<v Speaker 3>A little bit more objective rather than unreliable narrators. But interestingly,

1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:02.200
<v Speaker 3>also especially heading into the end of this season, then

1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:05.840
<v Speaker 3>what will be season three whenever the writers strike is over.

1:20:08.520 --> 1:20:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Who is showing them to us? And what is the purpose?

1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:14.080
<v Speaker 3>How do these women try and navigate their lives with

1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.240
<v Speaker 3>these memories of all the terrible things they did as girls?

1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:19.479
<v Speaker 3>And Shawna does have the journals, and Shawna definitely knows

1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:21.120
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more because she talks a lot about

1:20:21.160 --> 1:20:24.880
<v Speaker 3>shame and the terrible things they did. But Natalie, Antie

1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and Lotti, they all basically say that they don't really

1:20:27.960 --> 1:20:28.799
<v Speaker 3>remember anything.

1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I kind of related to this.

1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been wondering if the Antler queen is not any

1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:42.360
<v Speaker 2>one of them is a different entity altogether. Now, it

1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>might be a alter ego of Lotties. I think that

1:20:45.840 --> 1:20:46.360
<v Speaker 2>that is.

1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>In that's in play.

1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Or even an all ego of Ties. You know, we

1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:56.240
<v Speaker 3>know Nighttime Tie is like a separate personality that.

1:20:56.400 --> 1:20:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Is in the cards.

1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:00.679
<v Speaker 2>But I also wonder if it's not a complete separate

1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:06.280
<v Speaker 2>entity altogether. Yeah, And I am also wondering if, as

1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>with Tie, they are all kind of in various ways

1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:18.519
<v Speaker 2>wrestling with their alter with their evil alter views. You know,

1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:22.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously Tie is the one that's you know, most obviously

1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.400
<v Speaker 2>in that kind of conflict, But I do wonder if

1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the rest of them aren't having that kind of struggle,

1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:35.160
<v Speaker 2>but just not perceiving it as a completely binary, different

1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:37.040
<v Speaker 2>person that's inhabiting their body.

1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>No, I definitely could see that. I think that's something

1:21:39.000 --> 1:21:41.200
<v Speaker 3>really interesting there, especially because of that theory we were

1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:43.559
<v Speaker 3>talking about last week. About like the girls needing to

1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.160
<v Speaker 3>come back together again to kind of like get rid

1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:49.600
<v Speaker 3>of whatever, the dark thing that they brought back. That

1:21:49.640 --> 1:21:52.160
<v Speaker 3>could definitely just be like a different part of that

1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:55.160
<v Speaker 3>personality that they had to repress. And also I think

1:21:55.720 --> 1:21:58.000
<v Speaker 3>that that and like Queen being a different person is

1:21:58.000 --> 1:22:01.880
<v Speaker 3>actually really interesting because in the episode five, where at

1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:05.720
<v Speaker 3>the end we see Natalie's vision where they're in the

1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.680
<v Speaker 3>plane and she sees the the Antler Queen lift up

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:12.160
<v Speaker 3>the veil from pausing, that people discovered that she saw

1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:15.880
<v Speaker 3>herself as the Antler Queen. I don't think Natalie's Antler Queen,

1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:19.200
<v Speaker 3>but I do think that Antler Queen represents a role

1:22:19.240 --> 1:22:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that maybe they played at different points. Maybe they all

1:22:23.120 --> 1:22:25.479
<v Speaker 3>took that on, maybe that was something they did. Or

1:22:25.920 --> 1:22:28.400
<v Speaker 3>as you said, could we know that Harvey had a

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:30.839
<v Speaker 3>friend who told him not to return to the camp.

1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:33.400
<v Speaker 3>That could be the Antler Quin. She could be the

1:22:33.439 --> 1:22:35.120
<v Speaker 3>one who runs those woods. You could be in a

1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:40.799
<v Speaker 3>much more simple Witch style series. But I will say

1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:43.599
<v Speaker 3>the end of this episode I think leans into one

1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:47.920
<v Speaker 3>of our big really out their tin FOI hat theories,

1:22:47.960 --> 1:22:51.120
<v Speaker 3>which is the like parallel timeline theory where things are

1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:54.320
<v Speaker 3>happening at the same time. So the girls are talking

1:22:54.360 --> 1:22:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and it seems like they're going to have a breakthrough,

1:22:56.000 --> 1:22:58.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of this realization they don't really know stuff. But

1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:03.920
<v Speaker 3>on Lotty's playlist, Lightning Crashes by Live starts to play

1:23:03.920 --> 1:23:06.080
<v Speaker 3>in Van says, this is my favorite song if you

1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>like all these outrageously well selected needle drops. There is

1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:13.960
<v Speaker 3>official Yellowjackets playlist on Spotify, and there's just so many

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:18.120
<v Speaker 3>good choices on there. So they begin to dance. Misty

1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:22.040
<v Speaker 3>realizes that it's snowing, and they start to kind of

1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:26.680
<v Speaker 3>have this party, and it seems like really good bonding,

1:23:26.840 --> 1:23:32.120
<v Speaker 3>this freedom between them. But in the past, kid, Misty

1:23:32.640 --> 1:23:39.439
<v Speaker 3>starts humming the song, and that to me is because

1:23:39.439 --> 1:23:42.280
<v Speaker 3>of what comes next. It seems unlikely to me that

1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:44.880
<v Speaker 3>they would connect that song to something.

1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Good right in the future. Why would you do that?

1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.679
<v Speaker 3>But there's this idea that those things could be happening

1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:52.439
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, and the song is almost kind

1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:56.920
<v Speaker 3>of leaking through that ethera between the two timelines is

1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>very interesting to me. So Misty hams a song Shorn

1:24:00.080 --> 1:24:01.880
<v Speaker 3>freaks the fuck out. She's like, where did you hear that?

1:24:02.960 --> 1:24:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Why are you singing that? And then she's like you

1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:08.680
<v Speaker 3>killed my baby. She slaps Misty. She's biting van like

1:24:08.720 --> 1:24:12.519
<v Speaker 3>her rage is just it's overflowing at this point, and

1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Lotty as the marta that she is, She turns to Shauna.

1:24:20.760 --> 1:24:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Shauna punches her in the face. Lotty wipes her nose.

1:24:24.320 --> 1:24:27.519
<v Speaker 3>She tells Harvey and Travis to leave, says Travis, take

1:24:27.560 --> 1:24:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Harvey to the bedroom. Doesn't want to see this, and

1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:32.840
<v Speaker 3>she tells Shawna, you want to get this rage out.

1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:35.800
<v Speaker 3>We need you here, not like this. We need you

1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:39.720
<v Speaker 3>here present. We need you here in a way that

1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.640
<v Speaker 3>you can help us. We need you. You survived, the

1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>baby didn't survive. You need to be here. So Shauna

1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:51.559
<v Speaker 3>understands the very bleak implications of this and just beats

1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:57.040
<v Speaker 3>the shout of Lotty. It is I so brutal.

1:24:57.400 --> 1:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>To the point where I'm watching this and going on,

1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't how does she live through There's no medical

1:25:04.840 --> 1:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>care out there. I'm like, you could die from this.

1:25:08.200 --> 1:25:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I felt like so they I think they know where

1:25:12.960 --> 1:25:15.360
<v Speaker 3>we're all at with fan theories and everything right, because

1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:19.759
<v Speaker 3>it is so bad that when Shauna rolls off of Lotty,

1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Lotty looks dead. The prosthetics are unbelievable. Her face is

1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:29.360
<v Speaker 3>just absolutely swollen and cut, and Lotty didn't she never

1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:32.360
<v Speaker 3>fought back. This scene made me cry because it one,

1:25:32.400 --> 1:25:36.360
<v Speaker 3>it's very intense, but also there is this unbelievably weird,

1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:39.600
<v Speaker 3>emotional self sacrifice that Lotty is taking here and she

1:25:39.800 --> 1:25:42.639
<v Speaker 3>just takes it. It's it's really just upsetting to watch,

1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and you think you think Lotty's dead, and Shauna shakes

1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:50.439
<v Speaker 3>her and and I felt like they would probably leave

1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:55.320
<v Speaker 3>it there, and that's your cliffhanger, but it's Lotti, she'd

1:25:55.320 --> 1:25:59.640
<v Speaker 3>probably magic. She takes this kind of staggering breath just

1:25:59.680 --> 1:26:03.080
<v Speaker 3>before it cuts to black, and spits blood from between

1:26:03.080 --> 1:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>her broken teeth, and Shauna goes outside and ices her

1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>bleeding knuckles, and it's just incredibly bleak stuff. And you'd

1:26:11.960 --> 1:26:14.960
<v Speaker 3>think that that was where the episode would end because

1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:17.040
<v Speaker 3>it was so horrific and shocking and you sort of

1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:20.519
<v Speaker 3>can't really take any more. But no, the show still

1:26:20.560 --> 1:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>wants you to have an anxiety attack, still wants Shanna

1:26:22.920 --> 1:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>to have an anxiety attack, wants to leave you as

1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:30.280
<v Speaker 3>on edge as possible. So Jeff brilliant. Another brilliant Jeff moment.

1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:33.400
<v Speaker 3>He calls Camp Green Pine and very aware that his

1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:36.040
<v Speaker 3>phone may be buggd good.

1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>This is a good day God call by Jeff, very.

1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Good call by Jeff. He says hey Seana, and Shawna,

1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>in a good mum moment, says, how's Cally? Did something happen? No, hey, Shawna,

1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:51.519
<v Speaker 3>So some bad news. Remember that guy that you got

1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:54.680
<v Speaker 3>into a crash with and he was missing and the

1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:58.200
<v Speaker 3>police were interested in him. Well, it turns out they

1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:02.800
<v Speaker 3>found his remain Remember him, Adam. We don't have anything

1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:04.800
<v Speaker 3>to do with it, but you know it sounds like

1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>they found him in this park. Uh cool, have a

1:27:10.040 --> 1:27:15.400
<v Speaker 3>good trip by incredible and that's the end of the episode.

1:27:15.479 --> 1:27:17.479
<v Speaker 3>So Adam's remains on now in play.

1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:22.919
<v Speaker 2>Guys, I feel like we got some, as you mentioned,

1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:30.719
<v Speaker 2>some really good evidence for either the either the present

1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>timeline is happening first or they're happening at the same time,

1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and these are two versions of the same people who

1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>are being informed by the events in the other time.

1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Very lupers like somehow the time there is a correlation

1:27:50.520 --> 1:27:53.759
<v Speaker 3>between what is happening in both timelines. I'm so interested.

1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>There is two episodes left of this season. We have

1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:58.479
<v Speaker 3>ended up in an outrageous situation where we have two

1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:02.439
<v Speaker 3>episodes left of this and two episodes of Succession. I

1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:05.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know how they're gonna wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I have zero ability to call this one.

1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I could not make a bet. I would not be

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:10.240
<v Speaker 3>on market moves.

1:28:10.200 --> 1:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Both shows, honestly, both shows.

1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I would love to know. I mean, there was that

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<v Speaker 3>great video that you shared in our like pre pro

1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:19.880
<v Speaker 3>chat where it was the guy who plays Carl from

1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Succession and he's like, you will never guess. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you think you might know about the way it's

1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:26.439
<v Speaker 3>gonna end, you will never guess.

1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>David rash, We'll have the will have the link to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Video because it's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>In the show notes, yeah, he says you may think

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<v Speaker 2>that you can predict it, but you never will, which

1:28:38.760 --> 1:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>leads me to believe that everything that we have guessed at.

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<v Speaker 3>Is completely wrong. Yeah, I know. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Succession has that tendency too. I mean Yellow Jackets has

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<v Speaker 3>that potential too, where there's so much that they have

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<v Speaker 3>to do in two episodes. They have to wrap certain

1:28:55.400 --> 1:28:59.479
<v Speaker 3>things up, but they also have to set up conflict

1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:01.240
<v Speaker 3>for the third season. They have to give us a

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<v Speaker 3>certain amount of answers, so that people will stay invested,

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<v Speaker 3>but they also have to leave us with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of questions. So it's going to be a really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be incredible up next nerd Out.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's nerd Out, way you tell us what you

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<v Speaker 3>love them, why, or a theory that you're excited to share,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick shas a bloody yellow Jackets theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick says this came to mind hearing your theory that

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<v Speaker 2>Shawna's nosebleed landing on the symbol related to the birds

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<v Speaker 2>falling to their deaths. Misty suggests it is related to

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<v Speaker 2>the iron in the ground. What is known for its

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<v Speaker 2>iron content blood, which we have been seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of symbolism around. Could that be the link. Also, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're pregnant, like Shawna, you also need more iron than normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be part of.

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<v Speaker 2>A supernatural explanation for some of the strange happenings as

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<v Speaker 2>the show progresses. But this might not explain the significance

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<v Speaker 2>of the symbol. Do the symbols point to iron rich

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<v Speaker 2>or light areas or something. Okay, that's probably a stretch,

1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:07.679
<v Speaker 2>but still, Nick, this is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been thinking more and more about the symbols,

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<v Speaker 2>and I now this is based on nothing other than

1:30:22.200 --> 1:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>our own navel gazing, but I have been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>decipher the symbol as a kind of pictorial representation of

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<v Speaker 2>intersecting timelines.

1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>You have like one timeline coming in this way, other

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<v Speaker 1>ones coming.

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<v Speaker 2>In this way, and then they all meet in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle somehow Is that it? I don't know, but seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that symbol, like, let me ask you this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>going back in episode there's that pull out shot of

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<v Speaker 2>Lotties cult camp and we see that the chairs and

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<v Speaker 2>this outdoor kind of arena are are set up in

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<v Speaker 2>the shape of the symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think she did that on purpose?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean she they actually I noticed this week

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<v Speaker 3>and they they actually use they have little symbol like

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<v Speaker 3>necklaces with the symbol on if they're in her cult.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that leans into Lotty's idea that it's

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of protection. But how much does she realize

1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>that could be happening on like a grander scale at

1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:32.760
<v Speaker 3>the cult I'm very interested in. I also think this

1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>theory is interesting because I feel like the symbol is

1:31:35.200 --> 1:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>something they have to answer this season. Yes, and the

1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:41.799
<v Speaker 3>iron thing is interesting because Lottie says that the symbol

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<v Speaker 3>is for protection and in like medieval folklore and also

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<v Speaker 3>like fantacy, iron is always something that was used against

1:31:48.479 --> 1:31:52.040
<v Speaker 3>magic or to protect against witches and stuff. So maybe

1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>there's something in there with the blood and the iron

1:31:54.320 --> 1:31:59.280
<v Speaker 3>content and kind of how that may be impacting the girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Though I will also I do think both of us

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<v Speaker 3>have moved away from the more logical explanations that we

1:32:06.400 --> 1:32:08.519
<v Speaker 3>used to think, like that is it an iron rich

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<v Speaker 3>area and they're hallucinating based on what they're eating out

1:32:11.280 --> 1:32:14.120
<v Speaker 3>of the ground, like is it an army base. I

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<v Speaker 3>still think I would be very surprised if that was

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<v Speaker 3>the route they went at this point, because I feel

1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>like they're doing so much supernatural adjacent work. Though I

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<v Speaker 3>will say this is I think it would be a stretch,

1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>and I think they would have to really commit to

1:32:28.120 --> 1:32:30.719
<v Speaker 3>it in a very deep and serious way that would

1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:32.920
<v Speaker 3>probably take a whole season. I do think there is

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<v Speaker 3>a version of this show where it's just about the

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<v Speaker 3>impact of trauma and there's actually nothing supernatural and there's

1:32:40.080 --> 1:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>nothing weird. It's just how they experience that terrifying time

1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:47.599
<v Speaker 3>and how that kind of bleeds into their daily life now.

1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:49.760
<v Speaker 3>But I think that would be almost you'd have to

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<v Speaker 3>take almost like a barrier level switch to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to explain that away. I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking about the iron and this, you know, one of

1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the things I've been wondering. There's, you know, in fairy folklore,

1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>in various various cultures that have like fairy folklore, Like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the facets of fairy folklore is that they'll

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<v Speaker 2>throw this huge feast and a party for people, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you eat their wonderful food, then all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 3>You be you Yeah, like Greek mythology too, Yeah, who

1:33:23.560 --> 1:33:25.519
<v Speaker 3>eats the pomegranate? You know, you end up trapped in

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<v Speaker 3>the world of the dead.

1:33:26.760 --> 1:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>And I you know, I don't know if a fairy

1:33:29.960 --> 1:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>thing is going on, but it does feel like, certainly

1:33:32.240 --> 1:33:37.040
<v Speaker 2>with the imagery around the initial cannibal incident, it does

1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>feel like they they have eaten of this magical feast

1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and now are trapped somehow.

1:33:45.320 --> 1:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it feels I increasingly think it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be.

1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:51.519
<v Speaker 1>It just has to be supernal.

1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I think so too. And also, if we're going back

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<v Speaker 3>to the symbol, I think you could say the symbol

1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>does look like a fairy, the dress with all the

1:33:57.920 --> 1:34:00.479
<v Speaker 3>different things coming out of it. I would I would

1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:04.639
<v Speaker 3>love for them to do. I love like hard fantasy

1:34:04.680 --> 1:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. There's this great series of books by

1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Holly Black setting like the World of the Fayfolk, and

1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that taught me a lot about those kind of rules

1:34:12.360 --> 1:34:15.919
<v Speaker 3>and things like you know, iron being used to repel fairies.

1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:19.080
<v Speaker 3>And I would absolutely love if they did like a

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<v Speaker 3>big swing like scary that Antler queen is a fairy

1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:25.559
<v Speaker 3>and this was them kind of taking part in this

1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:29.439
<v Speaker 3>feast of the fee who eat who do eat? Humans

1:34:29.439 --> 1:34:31.760
<v Speaker 3>who have this terrifying kind of thing, and they are

1:34:31.800 --> 1:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>now part of that world and kind of partially half

1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:37.000
<v Speaker 3>in half out of that world. Would also work as

1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>a kind of version of our final destination theory, where

1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:42.720
<v Speaker 3>they're basically stuck in between two worlds and are being

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<v Speaker 3>hunted down by something from both. I'm in now, that's it,

1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Yellow Jackets, Fairy Show, that's my, I'm into it, that's

1:34:48.040 --> 1:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>my that's my headcanon. Now it's all fairies.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so mutching it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have theories and passions you want to share,

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