Speaker 1: Warning.
Speaker 2: This podcast contains spoilers for season four episode eight of
Speaker 2: Succession on HBO, season two episode seven of Yellowjackets on Showtime. Hello,
Speaker 2: my name is Jason Sepsion and I'm Rosey Night and
Speaker 2: welcome to x Revision, the Crooked media podcast where we
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Speaker 3: In this week's very intense episode, it's market Moves and
Speaker 3: then moving all over the place, up, down, all around. Terrible,
Speaker 3: terrible times. In Succession season four episode eight. Trigger warning,
Speaker 3: it's too much like the real world. It's too much
Speaker 3: in the airlock. It's getting intense in the forest. In
Speaker 3: Yellowjackets season two episodes, you thought last week's episode had
Speaker 3: a bomber ending, wait till you see this week's episode.
Speaker 3: And in Nodout, we've got a Yellow Jackets theory from
Speaker 3: listener Nick.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Market Moves. I wanna be the CEO.
Speaker 4: I wanna do it all alone.
Speaker 2: Rigging votes is my real test beating move.
Speaker 3: This is my cause.
Speaker 2: I will elect a president to live in the House
Speaker 2: so white.
Speaker 1: In turn, he'll regulate kill the deal.
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Speaker 2: Let's grow that bank account, folks. We're talking about episode eight,
Speaker 2: America Decides of the Succession television program written by Jesse
Speaker 2: Armstrong himself, and it is it's a tense one. I
Speaker 2: think I speak for you, Rosie. Everybody on our staff
Speaker 2: and every listener of the market moves Financial success audio program.
Speaker 2: When I say I hope our next presidential election is
Speaker 2: just like that, I hope it happens exactly that way.
Speaker 3: This is the American dream. If you're in line, folks,
Speaker 3: stay in line. Bere's we're changed in the paradigm. It's
Speaker 3: election day, Tom, just.
Speaker 2: Like the future of American democracy is a little bit
Speaker 2: on edge. He's under tremendous pressure to deliver massive ratings
Speaker 2: and explosion of ratings lest he loses job. You know,
Speaker 2: this is the first post Logan election night at ATM
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: Got to be big.
Speaker 2: Ken knows the stakes. It's the post As we mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know, his dad is gone. He is now the
Speaker 2: co CEO along with Rome, and so they've got to
Speaker 2: really make it happen. So he really puts the spurs
Speaker 2: to Tom, telling him like it's gotta be huge, it's
Speaker 2: got to be big. Tom in turn, is toxic and
Speaker 2: abusive as we like to his staff.
Speaker 1: We love that.
Speaker 2: We love to see efficiency, we love to see fear.
Speaker 2: We love to see lots of people fired and the
Speaker 2: remaining employees to live in a state of constant anxiety.
Speaker 3: That's capitalism, folks, that's.
Speaker 1: What we love.
Speaker 2: And so Tom, you know, really rides them and he
Speaker 2: tells them like, let's put the most mentally unwell people
Speaker 2: on the air, because that's what gets the ratings, and
Speaker 2: that's what are that's what our audience loves. Much more
Speaker 2: experienced in terms of elections. Staff says, you know, we're
Speaker 2: it says to Tom, hey, your foot where you're gonna
Speaker 2: be on your feet all night, you gotta have comfortable shoes.
Speaker 1: Those shoes aren't gona be comfort.
Speaker 2: And then Tom is also worried that he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to piss his pants, you know, like an astronaut, which
Speaker 2: leads us to our first prompt, Rosie, when you have
Speaker 2: to get comfortable total maximum comfort level, because you've got
Speaker 2: to settle in for like a long drive, or you
Speaker 2: got to be on your feet for a long period
Speaker 2: of time. Because there's a mega mega mega important election
Speaker 2: that's going and you are running the coverage, maybe you
Speaker 2: won't get to get to a bathroom because if you
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, some malfunction will happen. Nobody will
Speaker 2: be there to fix it. What is your go to
Speaker 2: comfort outfit?
Speaker 3: Whoo? If I'm running as I am, you know, multi
Speaker 3: headed corporations, I'll just wear wherever I want. I'll wear
Speaker 3: some Vori sweatpants. Yes, I did like. I will take
Speaker 3: a note. I liked the when they showed different people
Speaker 3: who worked at ATM's Feet. All of them were wearing
Speaker 3: comfortable slippers. I will join them. I will wear shoes,
Speaker 3: some big, cushy, expensive ug boot. I will be extremely comfortable.
Speaker 3: And then, you know what, just to add little chaos,
Speaker 3: just in case I gotta go on a zoom call,
Speaker 3: gotta fire a few hundred people over the internet, I'll
Speaker 3: just wear like a buttoned down shirt and tie. It's
Speaker 3: pure chaos, but I think it it does double duty.
Speaker 1: I for no.
Speaker 2: Reason at all, I'm going to echo your take and
Speaker 2: say that I would wear the Viory Sunday joggers on
Speaker 2: my pants and also on my I'd wear one on
Speaker 2: each arm, one pair on each other.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wear like a single pair on my upper
Speaker 2: body because then it would constrict my movement. But I'd
Speaker 2: have one pair on each arm, the pair the normal
Speaker 2: way on my legs, and I have another pair on
Speaker 2: my head, and then I would just kind of wrap
Speaker 2: maybe five or six of them around my torso to
Speaker 2: kind of keep that covered, because I believe in modesty
Speaker 2: and I don't want I don't want to show too
Speaker 2: much skin, but I want to be extremely comfortable, and
Speaker 2: I find that the Viori fabrics, again just this is
Speaker 2: completely my unbiased opinion, are the most comfortable of fabrics,
Speaker 2: perhaps ever created by human hands. I think you'd have
Speaker 2: to go to like some kind of fantasy world where
Speaker 2: elves create magical garments to find a garment that is
Speaker 2: that most comfortable as that it's really true.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I think you could intimidate people with the amount of
Speaker 3: extra legs that you had kind of flailing around your body.
Speaker 3: You could stuff them if you wanted to make it
Speaker 3: look like you had multiple arms, some kind of goro
Speaker 3: intimidation technique, or you could choose them to hide important
Speaker 3: documents as you go around doing the inevitable shady things
Speaker 3: that you would need to do.
Speaker 2: This is all all stuff that I may or may
Speaker 2: not do. I don't want to lock myself down say
Speaker 2: anything that could be used against me later. But I
Speaker 2: think that's right. I think that's right. And you always
Speaker 2: want to keep people guessing as to where your limbs are.
Speaker 2: Greg uh has apparently been hanging out with Mattson, with Madson.
Speaker 2: He's spent the evening at some very lurid establishment, apparently
Speaker 2: forcing senile older men to dance, which is so troubling it.
Speaker 3: Sounds absolutely haunting. But Greg is loving it. Because Greg
Speaker 3: is moving up of the desperate succession ladder and he
Speaker 3: he is climbing higher than some may expect.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I agree with you, and I
Speaker 1: think what would be the.
Speaker 2: Most surprising outcome this season? You know, you could you
Speaker 2: can imagine this character, that character rising high or bottoming out,
Speaker 2: but I think truly one of the most surprised, Like
Speaker 2: you know, other than Willam, Greg the egg ending up
Speaker 2: on top somehow or or nearer the top is would
Speaker 2: be so shocking.
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3: It's looking likely.
Speaker 1: I feel like I.
Speaker 3: Agree, and I think it's something that from the very
Speaker 3: earliest days of the historical documents that have shown us
Speaker 3: what has occurred in the roy family. Many viewers have thought,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be so ironic and tasty and delectable if
Speaker 3: strange cousin greg who may or may not even really
Speaker 3: be related to anyone and who is just absolutely useless,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it make a lot of sense for him to
Speaker 3: end up on top? Isn't that the topsy turvy world
Speaker 3: we live in? And I do believe that this episod
Speaker 3: so we may be getting that I need to say
Speaker 3: as well, like I have.
Speaker 1: We all know.
Speaker 3: Look, I've said I understood my shave aligned with Matson.
Speaker 3: But we learn in this episode that, as many people suspected,
Speaker 3: myself included, Madson is a live wire. He does not care.
Speaker 3: He will tell Gregory Peggory some important, very secret information
Speaker 3: that will end up causing a big problem, and he
Speaker 3: doesn't even care. He'll do it while he's dancing with
Speaker 3: a sexy old see no man.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh. Exit polls suggest that while it is uncomfortably
Speaker 2: close for those of you who you know wouldn't want
Speaker 2: a fascist president.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know that small minority.
Speaker 2: Right, that it looks as if Jimenez and Evis are
Speaker 2: gonna take the nights are looking good. Uh, It's important
Speaker 2: we learn that the ATN folks in the know who
Speaker 2: know about poll numbers not leak that or even hint
Speaker 2: at it on air because they could lose their election
Speaker 2: certification something or other. And also it would be seen
Speaker 2: as an attempt to swing the election for a candidate.
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, you.
Speaker 1: Don't want to be seen doing that.
Speaker 3: You do not want to be seen doing that. But
Speaker 3: my favorite thing about this information that they are guided
Speaker 3: with is that it then becomes essentially a battle plan
Speaker 3: of how they can do just that. And it is
Speaker 3: impeccable that they took the advice, and we're like, that
Speaker 3: sounds great, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Shiv is of course pulling for Jimenez while Roman is
Speaker 2: marching and ce kaling for Herminken HIV facetimes Lucas. She's
Speaker 2: still they're still working together. Of course, as we just mentioned,
Speaker 2: she wants Lucas to release a statement about the Indian numbers,
Speaker 2: to get in front of that news, you know, and
Speaker 2: this is a great time to do it because the
Speaker 2: nation is going to be absolutely entranced by the election.
Speaker 2: And the results of the election. This is the time
Speaker 2: to just news dump news, dump news, dump news dump.
Speaker 2: Lucas drops that he has uh, you know, been discussing
Speaker 2: India with his team, and also.
Speaker 1: You know Gleig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cash just casually laying the biggest snake in the wild,
Speaker 3: the most power hungry wild person. Just let him know
Speaker 3: in a club. But there was definitely plenty of other
Speaker 3: people who could have over heard. And that's not the if.
Speaker 2: If they if they were not hard of hearing, as
Speaker 2: this older gentleman may have been. You know, I think
Speaker 2: when you are clutching an older man who doesn't want
Speaker 2: to dance to your chest and making him dance, uh,
Speaker 2: he's probably not listening to f Yeah, someone is not
Speaker 2: going to be on the business details that are kind
Speaker 2: of moving back and forth. Shiv is of course alarmed
Speaker 2: by this, like what.
Speaker 3: The fuck are you talking to?
Speaker 1: We talked to great.
Speaker 2: Uh, And Lucas is basically just like, hey, here's a picture.
Speaker 2: What about we just never say anything about the numbers.
Speaker 2: Prompt number two, Rosie, that's the best day to release
Speaker 2: bad news.
Speaker 3: The best day to release bad news. And I say
Speaker 3: this as many years as a journalist and the enertiment business.
Speaker 3: I will tell you the best day to release bad
Speaker 3: news is at like five pm on a Friday night.
Speaker 3: That's the plan, baby, that's what you've got to do.
Speaker 3: If you see a studio announce some news right then oooh,
Speaker 3: they do not want you to see it now. Obviously,
Speaker 3: twenty four our news cycle, internet news cycle is kind
Speaker 3: of different, but that is generally the best rule. Of course,
Speaker 3: Shiv is absolutely right here. It's also great to release
Speaker 3: it within a very busy twenty four our news cycle.
Speaker 3: Matson is very unlikely to become the main character of
Speaker 3: the news here. Nobody's gonna carey, oh, some fluffed up
Speaker 3: numbers like that's just that's normal. That's what tech people do.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna make the news when you have people
Speaker 3: setting mail in vote offices on fire and voting an
Speaker 3: electoral fascist. So ship is not wrong. But if you're
Speaker 3: looking to drop a press release, you want no one
Speaker 3: to see Gopher end of business day Friday.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: It's a great it's it's absolutely a classic. It's tried
Speaker 2: and true. You know, if I say we're we're going
Speaker 2: to be charged with insider trading and bring that up
Speaker 2: for absolutely.
Speaker 3: Definitely not gonna happen. Of course, this is why we're
Speaker 3: going to happen. This is why you trade on the outside,
Speaker 3: make the outside money.
Speaker 1: I trade. I'm it's all outside.
Speaker 3: All the trading I do is out doors, outdoors and
Speaker 3: touching grass and trading the same.
Speaker 1: Never never, never indoors inside. That's no roof. That is
Speaker 1: almost is the roof, and there is no roof. That's
Speaker 1: the limit. What's the limits limit, there's no roof, no ceiling.
Speaker 1: That said.
Speaker 2: I always like to peg bad news to whatever holiday
Speaker 2: is around.
Speaker 3: If there is gonna, says we ken is great too,
Speaker 3: if there's.
Speaker 2: Very If it's calendar dependent, I like to do like
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen pm Eastern on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 3: Well that's great, you know something like that.
Speaker 2: Or I wait until someone famous dies, someone famous and beloved,
Speaker 2: and then I just kind of slip it in there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really good, in between the o bits and
Speaker 3: the memorials and just kind of like, oh, inside of trading,
Speaker 3: I lost three billion dollars. Bo love that guy. Rest
Speaker 3: in peace.
Speaker 2: This is a big phone call episode. Shiv takes a
Speaker 2: call from Nate. Nate is very, very nervous, but he's
Speaker 2: also feeling hopeful. You know, because of the exit polls,
Speaker 2: we learned that a future him and his administration would
Speaker 2: not have an issue with the Gojo deal. They just
Speaker 2: basically rubber stamp it and let it go, and we
Speaker 2: love that for business. Shiv is promising a new ATN
Speaker 2: for a new administration. Hey, you know, we're being kind.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be gentler, We're gonna be better, We're gonna be
Speaker 2: people are gonna love us. It's gonna be great. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be very very very lefty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Nate is like makes a great point where
Speaker 3: he's like, well, then why aren't you reporting on the
Speaker 3: domestic terrorism that is occurring tonight that we're starting to
Speaker 3: get rumblings off on social media. Someone is attacking voting
Speaker 3: offices where they are counting mail in ballots and that
Speaker 3: what they thought was an electrical fire is actually looks
Speaker 3: like it was vandalism. And she's like, yeah, yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: of course, we're definitely gotta gotta cover that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, what is fire? Who are people?
Speaker 3: It's just salomons?
Speaker 1: What what is it? What is a person? Uh?
Speaker 2: How does a person set a fire? Could it be
Speaker 2: an accident? Could Uh, you know, what is a flannel
Speaker 2: of material? These are all questions that we could ask, uh,
Speaker 2: and we will ask, and we'll be asked over the
Speaker 2: course of this episode. Any question, but who set this fire?
Speaker 2: I think it's important to ask.
Speaker 3: Very important my question no one needs to know.
Speaker 2: Ken takes a call from his ex wife Ravah.
Speaker 1: She is panicked, of course.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: In last episode, we learned that Ken and Roba's daughter, Sophie,
Speaker 2: who is Indian I believe, was pushed by a raven
Speaker 2: head person or a Manken person and they made some
Speaker 2: sort of uh, you know, kind of like racist uttering,
Speaker 2: and so they're already on edge and now there's this
Speaker 2: SUV following them, and Ken is like, oh, that's sorry,
Speaker 2: that's mine. Sorry I put I put private security on
Speaker 2: you and I didn't. I'm sorry I didn't. I should
Speaker 2: have told you, but I didn't mention it.
Speaker 1: Ps Uh.
Speaker 2: You know I everything I do, including secretly putting armed
Speaker 2: men on your tail, is because I love you, and
Speaker 2: you know, we're working on making a kinder, gentler world
Speaker 2: for you, my my beautiful daughter Sophie, who I love
Speaker 2: very much. Maybe we'll see Ken then calls Nate to
Speaker 2: get on the line with Candidate Jimenez, and he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, Dan Jimenez, when you win, maybe you
Speaker 2: should look at tech for no apparently no reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no reason at all. You know that definitely not
Speaker 3: because you should look at it to kill the Gojo deal,
Speaker 3: Like say, no reason, Just just look at it, Dodgy.
Speaker 3: It's bad, bad things, that huge force, huge force in
Speaker 3: our world, and maybe you should look at it.
Speaker 1: Prop Number three.
Speaker 2: I believe, although I may be wrong, that this is
Speaker 2: the first time that we see candidate Jimenez, certainly this season.
Speaker 2: So this leads me to my next prompt. This is fiction,
Speaker 2: of course, work of fiction, this show that we take
Speaker 2: very seriously. So seriously we've modeled an entire fake show
Speaker 2: after this show. The minimum age for to be president
Speaker 2: is thirty five. But let me ask you this is
Speaker 2: it realistic to elect someone for president who is not
Speaker 2: eighty nine years old?
Speaker 1: Rosie? That is the prompt. Look, come on, you got
Speaker 1: to be eighty nine to ninety ninety one, high eighties
Speaker 1: at least president.
Speaker 3: It is part of the American rule, the American law.
Speaker 3: I think in the Constitution it says you've got to
Speaker 3: be like ten years away from dying or you can't
Speaker 3: be the president. Right. That's like, that's a big part
Speaker 3: of the American rulebook.
Speaker 2: Because you don't want anybody in there who hasn't lived
Speaker 2: a full and I mean full, like right to the edge,
Speaker 2: life like right to the end that candles all the
Speaker 2: way down. You don't want them thinking about just life
Speaker 2: stuff because they've done it.
Speaker 3: They've done it. They're not going to be distracted. They've
Speaker 3: spent many life, they've lived through multiple depressions. They have
Speaker 3: played and manipulated the markets through those depressions and made
Speaker 3: very very, very large amounts of money. And now they're successful.
Speaker 3: They're in their eighties, they're out here, they're being presidents.
Speaker 3: They're not showing up for votes.
Speaker 2: You know, high is they're all, okay, what's your ideal
Speaker 2: age for a president? President elect?
Speaker 3: One hundred and two?
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: I also life experience, lived a century. They remember before
Speaker 3: these things existed, like tech. They can go up against tech.
Speaker 3: They say, what's tech? They don't have Facebook.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, with no cybernetic enhancements, no kind
Speaker 2: of cryo tubes, just like a raw dogging life, a
Speaker 2: human being that just lived, uh, you know, without any
Speaker 2: kind of uh special medical technology things to keep them going.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah about one hundred, like one o two,
Speaker 2: one oh three.
Speaker 3: I think so. I think that's the sweet sport.
Speaker 2: That's what everybody wants, so that you can get out
Speaker 2: of your second term by like one o eight one
Speaker 2: oh nine and then quietly pass away, you know, happily.
Speaker 2: Rome heads to the Menken lif to meet with the
Speaker 2: Menca Nights. Jared MANCN is pissed that Rome wasn't able
Speaker 2: to deliver Connor dropping out of the race, and mancan
Speaker 2: tells Roman that, you know what, it looks like we're
Speaker 2: gonna lose to Night.
Speaker 1: But I like it. I want to lose.
Speaker 3: I'm very focusbut on losing.
Speaker 2: I'm very focused on losing. I think losing is winning.
Speaker 2: I think the new winning is losing because when I lose,
Speaker 2: I can throw just dirt on the entire process and say, hey,
Speaker 2: look how rid this entire processes, and that will set
Speaker 2: me up to win the next time around.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He wants to destabilize the American government and economy
Speaker 3: so that he can take it when it's vulnerable. Very
Speaker 3: historical precedent for that, don't google who's done that? In
Speaker 3: the past. You don't need to do that, but it
Speaker 3: has been done. It has been done. And I will
Speaker 3: say this is a scene that introduces one of the
Speaker 3: best word word uses this episode that will continue to go.
Speaker 3: He wants Roman to help him with the narrative, and
Speaker 3: you will now hear the word narrative come up in
Speaker 3: every other sentence. Everybody is worried about the narrative. Jared's
Speaker 3: dream narrative is that he was maligned and oppressed and
Speaker 3: pushed to the side because he was the real working
Speaker 3: man's candidate. But obviously that narrative could change, and atn sadly,
Speaker 3: well gladly depending where your stocks are. For everyone has
Speaker 3: a big handle on shaping that narrative. As we will see.
Speaker 2: Back at at and Headquarters, Greg is asking Tom, you know,
Speaker 2: important questions about his role with the company going forward,
Speaker 2: and Tom.
Speaker 1: Is like, where's my fucking coffee?
Speaker 3: Greg?
Speaker 2: And Greg is like, hey, man, I just fired three
Speaker 2: hundred people.
Speaker 3: I don't do coffee anymore.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, it was either one hundred people in
Speaker 2: three days or three hundred people in a day, whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be.
Speaker 1: I don't do coffee anymore.
Speaker 2: And Tom makes a very measured statement, a very measured response.
Speaker 3: Very realistic, relatable. Yes.
Speaker 2: When he says, listen, if you don't get my coffee,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be chaos, and that chaos is gonna spread,
Speaker 2: and that and China's going to invade Taiwan and that
Speaker 2: means world War three and that means the nukes are
Speaker 2: gonna fly, and that means the end of all complex
Speaker 2: life on Earth, And like, do you want to be
Speaker 2: responsible for that because you didn't get my coffee? And
Speaker 2: he's like, well, in that case, if it's that important,
Speaker 2: we should do something a little stronger, No, a little
Speaker 2: more powdery. No, what do you think about that? So
Speaker 2: I think very reasonably, just completely a very completely reasonable
Speaker 2: thing to do. Greg and Tom snorted a little coke
Speaker 2: off the back of their hands behind a whiteboard.
Speaker 3: And Greg has put himself in a terrible situation here
Speaker 3: because Greg did not want to do drugs.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to do Greg didn't want to do
Speaker 2: two nights in a row.
Speaker 3: Wanted he didn't want to get addicted. He hadn't. He
Speaker 3: was like, I might get addicted. Do it two nights
Speaker 3: cine arroo, and he decided that he would have to.
Speaker 3: He got pay pressure by Tom. You know, understandable. But
Speaker 3: I have a prompt for you, Jason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good good.
Speaker 3: Why is Tom so tired? Why is he so tired?
Speaker 3: Last episode he needed to go to sleep at the party.
Speaker 3: This episode, he needs his coffee or he's gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 3: He so tired, Jason? Why is Tom so tired?
Speaker 1: Low t no testosterone.
Speaker 3: He's not taking his ATN, not taking his ATN testosterone pills.
Speaker 2: I think he's got to start taking them. You know,
Speaker 2: there are many products on nugenic I'm sure Nugenics for one,
Speaker 2: I think is one that has come highly recommended, certainly
Speaker 2: by older athletes of an American extraction. Doug Flutie, for example,
Speaker 2: has handled his low te problem through nugenics. Eugenics not
Speaker 2: a sponsor of the Market Moves program. But I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I think Tom should perhaps look into it, or
Speaker 2: like a human growth hormone or some other kind of
Speaker 2: low testosterone.
Speaker 1: Amplified that he should look at it. I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think it's you're right to flag it because you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the maybe the tea is low. Dad said he
Speaker 2: did father a child recently. He'll get to that, he'll
Speaker 2: find that out.
Speaker 3: He'll find that so, but you know what, for now,
Speaker 3: for now he's got you know, good old toot, he's
Speaker 3: got the cocaine. He's going to keep going. That's going
Speaker 3: to keep him going for now, but it will probably
Speaker 3: make him tired tomorrow. Spoiler warning tom you're going to
Speaker 3: be tired again.
Speaker 1: Is that the rule? You can't do it two days
Speaker 1: in a row, so you can you skip a day.
Speaker 3: I'm not get addicted if you do it. I do
Speaker 3: believe that when you go to school in certain states,
Speaker 3: they probably tell you that if you do drugs once
Speaker 3: or twice in a row, you will become addicted. So
Speaker 3: maybe if the books say so, it could be true.
Speaker 3: I don't think Greg needs to worry. That motherfucker is tall.
Speaker 3: I feel like his metabolism is very fast. I think
Speaker 3: he's going to be okay. I was very impressed actually
Speaker 3: by his good point, skilful attempt not to do the
Speaker 3: coke and pretend to do it. It was That was one
Speaker 3: of my old time favorite great moments. It was very good.
Speaker 3: But now they're both on coca and that's obviously gonna
Speaker 3: be great for democracy because everyone knows best decisions are
Speaker 3: made while you're on cocaine.
Speaker 2: Connor calls and he harangues Tom about the pro con
Speaker 2: stories that are out there on social media, but they're
Speaker 2: not making it to eighteen.
Speaker 3: There is no con coverage. I have not even seen
Speaker 3: Conn's face for the con comment. He says, come on,
Speaker 3: give me some sugarman.
Speaker 1: Maybe everyone voted for me. You don't know to which
Speaker 1: Willis says Schrodinger's cat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until you count the votes, Tom, you don't know.
Speaker 3: One could be president, Connor could be president. You don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know. Nobody knows.
Speaker 2: Also, we discover in this episode of Counner and I
Speaker 2: think this is a bid to be presidential.
Speaker 1: Yes, he is a guy who says, shan't and a last.
Speaker 3: He is Willa understandably once again the people's champion. Will
Speaker 3: are coming through here. She says, fuck Kentucky when they
Speaker 3: discover that con did not win Kentucky, which was one
Speaker 3: of the few places they expected him to win, and
Speaker 3: he says, no, Willa, not fuck Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Won't.
Speaker 3: I won't be that person. I shan't become that man.
Speaker 3: He says, alas Kentucky, Willa, alas Kentucky. That doesn't even
Speaker 3: make sense. But I love it because I use the
Speaker 3: lass all the times. You love it, Use a lass,
Speaker 3: It'll make you rich.
Speaker 1: As polls close.
Speaker 2: One of Aten's Steve Kornacky knockoffs has a touch screen malfunction,
Speaker 2: and Tom absolutely now amped to the gills on the
Speaker 2: marching powder, reacts like he is coked to the gills
Speaker 2: on the marching powder, and Ken calls while this is
Speaker 2: going on, He's like, what the hell is going on
Speaker 2: with a touch screen? Get that touch green up on.
Speaker 2: Smash your head in like a soft boiled egg. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: we mentioned Rosie mentioned earlier how there's this been there's
Speaker 2: this robing about a voting center that's been set on
Speaker 2: fire in Wisconsin, a key battleground state.
Speaker 1: And you know, listen it.
Speaker 2: If you want to go by the facts, see if
Speaker 2: you want to be one of those people who just
Speaker 2: goes by the fact.
Speaker 3: Just the facts, that's the question.
Speaker 2: The fast the facts, which is like okay, basic, But
Speaker 2: if you want to be that person, then sure Menken
Speaker 2: Nights did set this voting precinct on fire. It also
Speaker 2: happens to be a heavily democratic h.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's just a coincidence, Just a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Right, Ken, and Shiv want to know why it's not
Speaker 2: being covered. Why aren't we covering this? Tom says, because
Speaker 2: we can't cover it because you think our audience wants
Speaker 2: to hear about how their side is bad. No, they
Speaker 2: want to hear about how their site is good, and
Speaker 2: so we.
Speaker 1: Can't cover this.
Speaker 2: And Roman says, well, why not just say it was anybody?
Speaker 2: Why not just say it was antifile? Why not just say,
Speaker 2: you know, like it was all in.
Speaker 1: Communists that that.
Speaker 2: I want to just do that. Why can't we just
Speaker 2: do that? And I you know, that's you know, if
Speaker 2: you want to just go by facts, and what a
Speaker 2: boring life you're gonna lead. I live in a I
Speaker 2: live in a world of pure imagination, Yeah, just like him,
Speaker 2: where everything changes to fit my whims whenever I want.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a much better way.
Speaker 3: To be definitely more fun when to eat some grass
Speaker 3: that's actually little Mimi flakes while you're burning down a
Speaker 3: vote in mail in ballot space?
Speaker 1: Do it?
Speaker 3: You could live that well? Pure imagination?
Speaker 2: Now, Uh, there's you know, kind of like a small
Speaker 2: wrinkle with the voting center. Turns out that some ballots
Speaker 2: were lost.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, maybe one hundred thousand, you know, some
Speaker 3: small amount.
Speaker 1: Just some small amount of heavily democratic ballots.
Speaker 2: And this news sets making hq at Jimenez hq uh
Speaker 2: racing to kind of shape the post election fire narrative.
Speaker 2: There's that word again, Narrave. Shive meets with Tom Uh.
Speaker 1: She wants to talk fire and narrative.
Speaker 2: Tom is making smarmy faces at her, and he's threatening
Speaker 2: to blow up her relationship with Mattson. And then he
Speaker 2: accused of of killing her dad. Kind of unhinged but okay,
Speaker 2: and she responds by telling Tom that she's pregnant by him,
Speaker 2: and to which Tom responds, is this a negotiating tactic?
Speaker 2: Prompt number four, Rosie, does Tom believe Shiv?
Speaker 3: I do not believe that Tom, in that moment on
Speaker 3: the Marching Powder regime that he has decided to take
Speaker 3: part in this episode. I do not believe that in
Speaker 3: the moment he believes her. I actually believe that him
Speaker 3: saying is this a negotiating tactic is the most honest response.
Speaker 3: Those two are so far gone at this point. I mean,
Speaker 3: he just accused her of killing her own dad, which
Speaker 3: is cruel and also just patinly untrue. No matter how
Speaker 3: stressed out. Logan was they are way past toxic. They've
Speaker 3: gone to you know, sub level atomic bun situation here
Speaker 3: where they're just consistently doing the most terrific shit. I
Speaker 3: truly believe that he does think that though as shit
Speaker 3: walks out of the room, I do believe it begins
Speaker 3: to settle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is kind of like, oh, did that really happen?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I read it a couple of ways. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: I think that he doesn't believe her. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: I'd think he was also like, well, she might be pregnant,
Speaker 2: but it might not be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why he.
Speaker 3: Said something mean. I did think that that could also
Speaker 3: be it. The kind of nate of it all, the
Speaker 3: the open relationship of it all, like that is his
Speaker 3: ultimate cruel comeback, because in his mind he thinks it's
Speaker 3: very unlikely that it's his.
Speaker 2: With the ballance burned and the absence te bells not
Speaker 2: yet counted. Mencoln basically calls ATM. He's he's manc in
Speaker 2: HQ is LinkedIn with Roman. Roman is mencn's guy, Mencn's
Speaker 2: ambassador to ATN, and MENCN just wants hey, just like say,
Speaker 2: I won just stop the count and say that we
Speaker 2: won Milwaukee. Shiv realizes because Roman basically says and Ken
Speaker 2: confirms that atn's coverage tonight on the Milwaukee incident, the
Speaker 2: fire and the fallout from the fire, and which way
Speaker 2: that state goes will one hundred thousand, million, billion percent
Speaker 2: be shaped by the perception that a Mancan administration will
Speaker 2: kill the Gojo deal. Period, that's it. They will go
Speaker 2: Mancan because mencol will kill the deal, and that's it,
Speaker 2: and they will make that promise.
Speaker 3: So this is a very interesting and bleak episode is bleak,
Speaker 3: very fucking bleak. But the thing I find most interesting
Speaker 3: is Shiv is in conflict with herself because now she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I I a fascist to become president because I'm a
Speaker 3: liberal and I believe in all these liberal things. But
Speaker 3: she has done everything along the way to be horribly
Speaker 3: complicit in this. And even I have to say, Kendall,
Speaker 3: I feel like he spends a lot of this episode.
Speaker 3: He's not being big boss material. He is in a
Speaker 3: moral quandary.
Speaker 2: He is in a moral quandary. Well listen, like it's
Speaker 2: all well and good. I think we've all, you know.
Speaker 3: Invitent how the fascist to become president.
Speaker 2: Well, we've you know, it's one thing to invite neo
Speaker 2: Nazis and fascists and white nationalists to your party, you know,
Speaker 2: to just come over and have tea and crumpets.
Speaker 1: I think we've all done that.
Speaker 2: But it's another thing to have them stay, you know,
Speaker 2: and in your house. And I think Shiv and Ken
Speaker 2: are dealing with the fact that, hey, I just invited
Speaker 2: these guys over for like a little NFL on Sunday,
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden they're moving in.
Speaker 1: Is that what I want? Maybe it is, I don't know. Uh.
Speaker 2: The ATEN headcore Naki Darwin briefs the Roys and Shiv
Speaker 2: and basically says, like, okay, uh, you can actually look
Speaker 2: at this precinct which burned, and you can look at
Speaker 2: the voter rolls and see all the people who voted.
Speaker 3: And who registered, and you could before and yeah, and
Speaker 3: they're either Democrats or registered as Republicans, and you could
Speaker 3: basically say here's how they would have voted. H.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Ravenhead is on the air. You remember Ravenhead, of course,
Speaker 2: the uh, the ATEN on air talent guy who again
Speaker 2: loves his Red Mind camp a couple of times because
Speaker 2: of the wonderfullyster eggs in there, and it named his
Speaker 2: dog Blondie after some German leaders dog.
Speaker 1: I forget who.
Speaker 2: He's basically on the air saying like, oh, so I
Speaker 2: guess we're you know, like the.
Speaker 1: Fire only burned the Democratic votes.
Speaker 3: Now the fires Kiki, and they're gonna tell you who
Speaker 3: to but who voted. And they're not actually gonna count
Speaker 3: the votes. They're just gonna tell you, oh, these people voted,
Speaker 3: and they are gonna take your freedom as American voters.
Speaker 3: And of course it's a masterclass in reflection and shaping
Speaker 3: the narrative.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: The pressure is building. Shive corners Greg and threatens to
Speaker 2: flat out threatens to murder him.
Speaker 1: This was interesting because there.
Speaker 2: Was no it was all stick and I'm not even sure,
Speaker 2: like what the what's the pitch? It's just like do
Speaker 2: this or or what? And Greg asks like, okay, what's
Speaker 2: in it for me? And she's like, I won't pull
Speaker 2: your intestines out of your butt.
Speaker 3: That is what she says. I mean, I think the
Speaker 3: pitches don't tell the boys that I am in bed
Speaker 3: with Matson, which of course he knows because Matson is
Speaker 3: just a fucking blaber. Mouth, but like she did not
Speaker 3: approach this the right way, because shit, Greg is first
Speaker 3: of all broke, second of all an idiot. Fird of all,
Speaker 3: he literally asks her for a bribe. He could have
Speaker 3: just given him like one hundred thousand dollars, which to
Speaker 3: people like us and people like the voice is nothing.
Speaker 3: That's like pocket money to shive, to us, to market
Speaker 3: moves listeners who have invested wisely. She could have just
Speaker 3: thrown him, you know, a little bit, a little bit
Speaker 3: of cash, little bit sweet. And actually Greg probably would
Speaker 3: have stayed quiet just for a little bit longer.
Speaker 2: Roman leans on Tom and Darwin the head Kornaki, to
Speaker 2: call Milwaukee from incoling, let's do it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Just say it.
Speaker 3: Becaids Wisconsin in his favor. He's gonna get the ten votes.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Darwin is like, well, we can't really call
Speaker 2: it because like there's this whole process and it's going
Speaker 2: course and all that. But what we can if we
Speaker 2: kind of couch it as like a pending call.
Speaker 3: Can you make a chiron, can you make a graph?
Speaker 1: Take a pree call.
Speaker 2: This is punctuated by a Darwin getting Bodego Wasabi in
Speaker 2: his eyes and then Greg pouring lemon Croy into it. Luckily,
Speaker 2: Darwin is able to go on the air and ATM
Speaker 2: makes a call. Mancin wins Wisconsin. Ken is kind of unhappy.
Speaker 2: Connor goes on the air and concedes, basically throwing it
Speaker 2: to Mancan and saying, hey, you know it's we lost,
Speaker 2: But that Jared Menkin, he's pretty great, isn't he. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And in return for this he will get ambassador to Slovenia.
Speaker 2: Shouts to Luka Doncic and Willa is like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: it's very very sad that the country is going to
Speaker 2: be overrun by Nazis.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, shopping.
Speaker 3: In Vienna, you know, Venice the lunch. Also, Connor does
Speaker 3: a little bit of a goes off script, does a
Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of a jazz thing,
Speaker 3: does some scatting, threatens the country by telling them the
Speaker 3: conheads are coming. He says, so I'm a billionaire. You'll
Speaker 3: have to find someone else's tee to suck a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a terrible performance and I loved every second of it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Cornna. Never see you again when you go
Speaker 3: to Slovenia. You're never coming back. The wory's like keeping
Speaker 3: you that forever.
Speaker 2: So when it becomes clear that Arizona on the up
Speaker 2: and up is gonna go red now at and is Boxington,
Speaker 2: they already called Wisconsin pending, but they called it.
Speaker 3: They didn't ever say pending either, like they.
Speaker 1: Just right, they just basically called it.
Speaker 3: They called it, And so.
Speaker 2: With aasy basically going Mancoln, that means they have to
Speaker 2: call Mencoln as the winner of the presidential election.
Speaker 1: Roman is slavering at the mountain.
Speaker 3: He's so happy.
Speaker 2: Ken Ken is like, oh, my daughter, hold on a second,
Speaker 2: I have to call a time out. So in private,
Speaker 2: Ken voices his concerns to Roman and for you know,
Speaker 2: democracy and diversity and the safety of his children and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: In Romans like fuck it, who can He says that.
Speaker 2: He says, quote, dad's dead in the country is just
Speaker 2: a big pussy waiting get fucked, which brings us to
Speaker 2: prop number five. Has Roman always been this bad? Or
Speaker 2: because Roman's always been bad, Roman's terrible.
Speaker 3: He's fallen off the nihilistic cliff and there is no
Speaker 3: coming back. Multiple times throughout this episode he says nothing matters,
Speaker 3: nothing's real, it's all bullshit, like all we did was
Speaker 3: program a good night of TV. It's almost like he
Speaker 3: is so depressed and so unhinged and unconnected from reality
Speaker 3: after his dad's death, that this has become like a
Speaker 3: game to him. And I think that as much as
Speaker 3: we know Kendall really wants to run the company by
Speaker 3: himself because he's a little backstab and bitch, I think
Speaker 3: Roman has those designs too, But whereas Kendall wants it
Speaker 3: because Kendall sees himself having some grand legacy like his dad,
Speaker 3: I think to Roman it's just about winning a game.
Speaker 3: It's nightmarishly scary to watch Roman this episode. He doesn't
Speaker 3: like Menkin. Go back a few episodes, he was calling
Speaker 3: him a Nazi. He just he is lavishing in this
Speaker 3: chaotic kind of fucking moral void. It's incredibly scary to watch.
Speaker 2: It was frightening. I don't know if Roman has always
Speaker 2: been this bad, but I do think Roman is the
Speaker 2: type of person who lowers himself to the level of
Speaker 2: the people around him. And it feels like, listen, the
Speaker 2: hotline of Jared Mancoln is intoxicating, that kind of like
Speaker 2: has way to power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like have.
Speaker 2: The most powerful, potentially person in the world on speed
Speaker 2: dial if you just kind of like push a couple
Speaker 2: of levers here and there. And I think he's really
Speaker 2: fired up about that. And I think that he also
Speaker 2: thinks that, uh, nothing bad.
Speaker 1: We're really well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, a voting place got burned by nazis, okay,
Speaker 2: but stuff burns all the time. This way, we have
Speaker 2: fire departments. Why do fire departments exist because stuff catches fire.
Speaker 3: He's so in his own bubble as well. Politics has
Speaker 3: never affected any of them at the p One of
Speaker 3: the most prescient, brilliant real things about that episode is
Speaker 3: that the party has Republicans, Democrats, all different donors because
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, as we know is true
Speaker 3: in real life, those people are friends. Yeah, those rich
Speaker 3: people are friends. They stay close. That's the circles we
Speaker 3: move in here at Market Moose. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter your political alignment as long as you bow to
Speaker 3: the god of money. And Roman I think has been
Speaker 3: so couched in that that he cannot see that mencan
Speaker 3: is not that mencan does not come from that world.
Speaker 3: Mencan will likely not play by those rules. And also
Speaker 3: I think there is an element of the you know
Speaker 3: you talked about Roman. Has he been always been this bad?
Speaker 3: Roman's always been like a troll, and he's enjoyed trolling people,
Speaker 3: whether he's trolling Jerry. This is that full blown edge
Speaker 3: lord bullshit coming to the forefront of like, oh I
Speaker 3: can I can edgeloord Us into having a nightmare President.
Speaker 3: He'll call me and he'll ask me what I think.
Speaker 1: All I know is why didn't you know?
Speaker 2: Stuff uh bursts into flame every day and I don't
Speaker 2: see anybody caring about it when that happens.
Speaker 1: Something's on fire right now?
Speaker 3: How come nobody's it happens every one second and I
Speaker 3: was talking about it.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden people care about fire.
Speaker 2: Hyritic Ken goes to shiveh and he says, flat out listen,
Speaker 2: Mancoan is offering to kill the deal, just like unambiguously
Speaker 2: kill it. And he admits that, Hey, I want to
Speaker 2: run the company myself, and I'm a little threatened by
Speaker 2: Roman's relationship with mancoln uh and so I have some
Speaker 2: hesitations here and she and Shive goes yeah, And then
Speaker 2: hesitation is also because you're a good person. Yeah you
Speaker 2: kill the kid, Yeah, you've done other bad things. The
Speaker 2: taking of a life the worst, but other.
Speaker 3: Stuff, many of other bad things.
Speaker 1: But you're good. You're a good person.
Speaker 2: And if you'd say, hey, we fucked up the Wisconsin call,
Speaker 2: you can do that, and you can make us do that,
Speaker 2: and we can do that. Now, she does not admit
Speaker 2: that part of the reason that yes, of course she
Speaker 2: loves democracy. Who doesn't, come on, everyone loves It's great pluralism.
Speaker 2: She cares about it. But you know, she is also
Speaker 2: working with Mats and so there is also that angle,
Speaker 2: which she does not reveal at this moment. She gets
Speaker 2: on the phone to see if Jimenez can can maybe
Speaker 2: promise or at least promise to think about killing the deal.
Speaker 2: And does she get through?
Speaker 1: Does she not? She doesn't get through. She bluffs.
Speaker 3: I think she even I think she called the number
Speaker 3: POPO is related to not get through, like.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even if she she a man would have answered,
Speaker 2: you're probably right, I would have answered.
Speaker 3: Even if she doesn't want to ask Nate, because she
Speaker 3: actually knows that in that situation, she might be the
Speaker 3: one who could get Nate to say yes. But she
Speaker 3: needs the deal to go through, so she bluffs, and
Speaker 3: I have to say I've been supporting her best season,
Speaker 3: but this is terrible bluff.
Speaker 2: I I let's talk about that. Uh So Shiv bluffs
Speaker 2: and it's a very bad bluff, Like it's obviously.
Speaker 3: She doesn't sell it.
Speaker 1: She doesn't sell it at all.
Speaker 3: Doesn't even doesn't even send Nate like a security text
Speaker 3: to be like, just fucking trust me. If Ken cals,
Speaker 3: you just go with whatever.
Speaker 1: Like so Ken gets.
Speaker 2: On the horn with Nate and he immediately figures out
Speaker 2: that she bluffed, and so his spider sense now is tingling.
Speaker 2: He goes to Greg and be like, what's going on
Speaker 2: or anything, and this is where he finds out that
Speaker 2: she's been working with Matts and he comes in.
Speaker 3: Greg fed like a piece of fucking paper.
Speaker 1: I just need to say, like.
Speaker 3: Greg is standing just looking Shive in the face through
Speaker 3: a plate glass window, selling her the fuck out. But
Speaker 3: you know what, Ship should have known as soon as
Speaker 3: she should have gone to them and been like, I've
Speaker 3: been playing mats and so I could get all the
Speaker 3: inside of DLS. She did not play this well at all.
Speaker 3: This is a cell Shiv moment. I feel like it's
Speaker 3: gone very badly for this episode.
Speaker 2: Sell sell Shive, not an operator, not a person you
Speaker 2: can deal with. Unfortunately, I was thinking of her dad's
Speaker 2: quote to the to the children, all of the children,
Speaker 2: you're not serious people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not serious.
Speaker 1: She is not a serious person at all.
Speaker 3: She's an un serious person. At this point, this was.
Speaker 1: Really bad, shif like, you fucking chuffed it.
Speaker 2: That was awful. So Ken comes in. He says, you're
Speaker 2: working with Matson. She denies it, but she's fucking absolutely caught.
Speaker 2: And now Ken is on the Menka train. Shi is
Speaker 2: you know, pulls out her you know, final like ace
Speaker 2: in the hole, which is like, I guess I'll go public,
Speaker 2: uh and be like, hey, you're all terrible people and
Speaker 2: you did this quick crow over the Gojo deal and
Speaker 2: that's why you made the call. And Ken Roman are like,
Speaker 2: we don't believe you. We don't believe you do that.
Speaker 2: So by MANCN gives a victory speech that is something
Speaker 2: out of an early gear mor del Toro movie, Like
Speaker 2: he looks like he's about to rip off his face
Speaker 2: and turn into a demon.
Speaker 3: This is all school fascism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mancan calls Roman. Ken maybe has a sliver
Speaker 2: of anxiety about the closeness of their relationship. This phone
Speaker 2: call like he's calling my brother. Tom meanwhile is being
Speaker 2: personally attacked for the ATM call, like he is the
Speaker 2: focal point of that call. Shiv gets on the horn
Speaker 2: to Lucas, trying to muster some kind of response to this.
Speaker 2: Lucas is like, holy shit, you guys elected a fascist. Wow,
Speaker 2: And Siv is like, okay, get your head together. We
Speaker 2: need to figure out a way to fuck over our
Speaker 2: brothers and get Manken out of here. And while Ken
Speaker 2: tries to go see his family and his daughter, whose
Speaker 2: security is now very much a threat under a a
Speaker 2: in a nation ruled by Jered Mancon, but rathers like
Speaker 2: we're sleeping.
Speaker 1: Uh who that is?
Speaker 2: That is the election night in the world of succession,
Speaker 2: and it is a doozy, folks.
Speaker 3: It was a doozy, definite doozy. I will say, now, look,
Speaker 3: we said Selshiv, and I do still believe that simply
Speaker 3: just because I think that the only way this ends
Speaker 3: at this point is with all of Roy's probably going down.
Speaker 3: But you know, they say, hell, hath no fury like
Speaker 3: a woman scorned. What does Shiv know that you, Jason,
Speaker 3: the knowledgeable stocks and bonds economic type person, that you
Speaker 3: are you had mentioned that you felt like Ken could
Speaker 3: be taken down by somebody rat sucking him with the
Speaker 3: you know, whole murder thing, the little thing about the murder.
Speaker 1: The little thing about the murder.
Speaker 3: I feel like that has to be the front of
Speaker 3: Shiv's mind when it comes to rap fucking the brothers.
Speaker 1: Is it enough and does it do enough?
Speaker 3: Do you? But I'm buying it though with them purposefully
Speaker 3: using the news to get a deal killed, you know,
Speaker 3: like those two things together, does that make enough of
Speaker 3: a problem to get rid of them, even though ATM
Speaker 3: would surely survive.
Speaker 1: I think you.
Speaker 2: I think you do it like like a one two punch.
Speaker 2: I think you come out with so much heat on
Speaker 2: this election. I think you come out right away and
Speaker 2: you say, my brothers did a handshake deal with Jared
Speaker 2: MANCN that they would call Wisconsin for him, despite the
Speaker 2: absence of hundreds of thousands of votes, thousands of votes
Speaker 2: that surely would have tilted Democratic, in return for a
Speaker 2: promise from Jared Mancon to lop the head off the
Speaker 2: GOJO deal as soon as he is in the old
Speaker 2: full office. And I think you lead with that, and
Speaker 2: I think you let that kind of boil and stew
Speaker 2: for like a week two weeks that go, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of wash around the news cycle like two three times,
Speaker 2: and once that is starting to like fade and shrink
Speaker 2: a little bit, then you hit him with oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, my.
Speaker 1: Brother killed a guy. Yeah, and he told me about it.
Speaker 2: It was at my wedding and in Italy, you know,
Speaker 2: after he tried to commit suicider before or sometime around then,
Speaker 2: he admitted to me and my brother and that he
Speaker 2: did kill a waiter at my wedding.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that that would be a huge hit obviously
Speaker 3: for Kendall. I do believe that Kendall and Rome could
Speaker 3: be seen on their way out and have the board
Speaker 3: do the Gojo deal and then I go out with Greg.
Speaker 3: I think when you.
Speaker 1: Go, I think you go for a triple too.
Speaker 2: After you let the PS my brother kill the guy
Speaker 2: wash around for a little while, then I think you
Speaker 2: maybe ad for a week or two weeks ago. PS,
Speaker 2: my other brother Roman was sending our lead Council of
Speaker 2: Waste star Royco Jerry Dick pics for an extended period
Speaker 2: of time and also sent our data dictics at a meeting.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I think that Shiv could possibly
Speaker 3: get Jerry on side for that if it meant a
Speaker 3: bigger payout for Jerry. I think Jerry is sick of it. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me ask you this, what is Tom's fate? Because this,
Speaker 3: to me, I feel like Tom's road is at an end.
Speaker 3: This feels like a Shakespearean tragic end to his ladder climbing.
Speaker 3: You know, he basically waited for the kids to tell
Speaker 3: him what to do. But here's the one. His face
Speaker 3: is being put all over the actual the liberal news media,
Speaker 3: even the right wing media people are saying he called
Speaker 3: Wisconsin too early and it is his fault. And not
Speaker 3: only that, but he is in the pocket of Jared Mankin,
Speaker 3: and they say, this man knows Jared Mankin. He's an
Speaker 3: associate of Jared Mankin. Did Tom's quest for ratings? Did
Speaker 3: that set him on the path to ATN execution? Is
Speaker 3: he out?
Speaker 1: I think Tom? Well, it depends.
Speaker 2: I think Tom is out. I think his career is
Speaker 2: going to be essentially over. He is the face of this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Ken and Rome are going to moon walk away from this.
Speaker 2: They're not going to take the blame for it. It's
Speaker 2: going to be all about Tom and that narrative is
Speaker 2: already taking shape, and I think as a result of this,
Speaker 2: Tom is going to find himself as like the you know,
Speaker 2: the CEO or the head of programming at like whatever.
Speaker 2: The Succession Universe version of the Blaze.
Speaker 3: Is yes, yes, yes, yes, some.
Speaker 2: Right wing YouTube channel they were kind of like yeah
Speaker 2: for like a low six figure salary. That is going
Speaker 2: to make him very, very miserable and unhappy because he's
Speaker 2: working with people like who don't drink wine?
Speaker 3: Okay, And I do feel like obviously this episode in Succession,
Speaker 3: as we said, feels very rooted in reality. But the
Speaker 3: last question I have for you is like, how far
Speaker 3: so we know Kendall drops it at the end of
Speaker 3: the episode when he's on the phone to Rava. Next
Speaker 3: week is the funeral, so we know that's no longer
Speaker 3: going to be the finale. How far do you think
Speaker 3: that we see the nightmarish Nazi ramifications of menking go
Speaker 3: in that final episode. Do you think it's going to
Speaker 3: like jump a shark potentially or do you think it's
Speaker 3: going to be more like ominous kind of ripple effect?
Speaker 3: Where do you see that going?
Speaker 2: I think we don't get too much more of it. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I think when we leave this story, the election is
Speaker 2: still going to be being litigated in the courts, but
Speaker 2: that ultimately it will be Jimenez and but that we
Speaker 2: don't go too much deeper on it. It'll just be
Speaker 2: about these people.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I think one of the
Speaker 3: smartest things about Succession is they spent you know, four
Speaker 3: seas and basically saying, look at how stupid these people are,
Speaker 3: look at all the terrible mistakes they made, and look
Speaker 3: at how rich they are, and don't worry though, because
Speaker 3: they're just rich and they just really only affect their
Speaker 3: own world. And I think it's an incredibly smart move
Speaker 3: that at the end they were like, oh, but now
Speaker 3: they are directly impacting you and your lives and who
Speaker 3: is president, and however you feel about that, positive or negative,
Speaker 3: that is what is happening. I mean, we see that
Speaker 3: the three siblings essentially choose the outcome of American democracy,
Speaker 3: and I just think that in itself is the bleakest
Speaker 3: statement that the show has to make. So I agree
Speaker 3: with you. I think that we get the funeral. I
Speaker 3: think the finale's probably gonna deal with whether or not
Speaker 3: the Gojo sale goes through, and I think we leave
Speaker 3: the world in a kind of bleak state of Oh,
Speaker 3: look what the Roys did.
Speaker 6: Up next Yellow Jaggets, We're stepping out of the airlock
Speaker 6: and into the wild wilderness of Yellow Jackets Season two,
Speaker 6: episode seven.
Speaker 3: If you thought succession was bleak, Oh baby, are you ready?
Speaker 3: It's an intense time in the forest once again in Burial,
Speaker 3: directed by Anya Adams and written by Rich Monahan and
Speaker 3: Liz Fang. It's a depressing time in the snowy wilds,
Speaker 3: which we are instantly alerted to thanks to the famous
Speaker 3: Batman soundtrack hit Something in the Way by Nirvana. The
Speaker 3: girls are still mourning shorn as baby, and the fact
Speaker 3: that they are absolutely snowed in, like snow to the
Speaker 3: windows snowed in is not helping their spirits. But Lotty notices,
Speaker 3: was it magic? We don't know? It's seven episodes seven
Speaker 3: and season two. We don't know what's going on? Lotty notices.
Speaker 3: The snow is stopped, and suddenly the girls are inspired
Speaker 3: to dream of and survival. They begin to dig themselves out,
Speaker 3: and in a move that will surely relieve many viewers,
Speaker 3: Shawna secretly buries her baby under some rocks, making a
Speaker 3: little baby too, substantially lessening the chance that they will
Speaker 3: eat the baby. I feel she's keeping it away from them.
Speaker 3: The baby eating odds are going down.
Speaker 1: Can you come let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of obviously there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of conjecture that they might eat the baby.
Speaker 1: Can you It feels like one of those can they
Speaker 1: come back from this?
Speaker 2: Like? Do you do you burn these characters if they
Speaker 2: eat the baby.
Speaker 3: I think that is why they did the dream sequence
Speaker 3: eating the baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think because you got that horrific visceral shock and
Speaker 3: then the reveal that it wasn't real. Because I don't
Speaker 3: think you can come back now. If they did do it,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have killed the baby because the baby did
Speaker 3: die naturally, it seems. But I do agree. I think
Speaker 3: that Shawna's put in her little thur baby package and
Speaker 3: she's putting it under some stones. It's a very moving moment.
Speaker 3: She does it where no one else can see. I
Speaker 3: think we can for now probably say that I think
Speaker 3: baby eating is off the table, because I think you're right,
Speaker 3: these are characters people have grown to love. We see
Speaker 3: them in the adult timeline, and you are meant to
Speaker 3: care about them and care about their journey, and I
Speaker 3: think that could be quite hard to come back from.
Speaker 3: As you point out, Shanna is not the only one
Speaker 3: who is horribly impacted by the death of the baby.
Speaker 3: It's clear that it's affecting all the girls, but none
Speaker 3: more so than ty and Van. Tye kind of cries
Speaker 3: to Van and says, hey, I really thought the baby
Speaker 3: was going to survive. I thought this was something positive
Speaker 3: for us, and Van brings up a very good point,
Speaker 3: which also the showruners have talked about quite extensively. What
Speaker 3: if the baby had survived. What would you do with
Speaker 3: a baby? They're all starving, they don't have any food.
Speaker 3: Shauna couldn't breastfeed because she's starving, and it's just another
Speaker 3: mouth to feed. It seems quite bleak from Van, who
Speaker 3: is a bit of a spiritual Lottie follower, But we
Speaker 3: learn here and I feel like this is probably gonna
Speaker 3: be really big going into the next couple of episodes.
Speaker 3: Van reveals that she no longer sees her constant gay immortality,
Speaker 3: you know, getting eaten by a wolf, surviving surviving a
Speaker 3: plane crash where she should have died and also surviving
Speaker 3: her not dead body being burnt after she was eaten
Speaker 3: by a wolf. She used to feel like that meant something,
Speaker 3: that she was here for a reason, and Ty's like,
Speaker 3: you are here for a reason, I promise you, like
Speaker 3: you can do it. But Van is on the nihilistic
Speaker 3: train to nowhere, questioning her place in the world and
Speaker 3: the wilderness and wondering why the fuck she's still alive,
Speaker 3: And honestly, I feel like it's a very relatable position.
Speaker 2: It really felt like Van has done a lot of
Speaker 2: living and learning. She's probably done the most evolving of
Speaker 2: any of the characters that we've seen, and that's why
Speaker 2: it's both fascinating and I think a good development for
Speaker 2: Tie that kind of see them discovering the chemistry.
Speaker 1: A little bit over the course of this episode.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they are rediscovering it at Camp Green Pine,
Speaker 3: Lottie's wellness cult, I mean wellness retreat and the Stages is.
Speaker 1: An intentional They're an intentional.
Speaker 3: Intentional community. Apologies apologies don't suit me. An intentional community.
Speaker 3: And guess what, that community has new members because every
Speaker 3: adult survivor from the core group is there. Lotty is there,
Speaker 3: of course, she's running it. Natalie's there, of course, she's
Speaker 3: basically joined the cult. I think she's playing a long game,
Speaker 3: but it's unclear. Misty turned up to save Natalie. She's
Speaker 3: been there twenty four hours and she is all in.
Speaker 3: She seems to love the cult. Van Tie and Shawna
Speaker 3: all recently arrived. So you have a little bit of
Speaker 3: an unsanctioned Yellow Jackets reunion, and Lotty's not going to
Speaker 3: waste this opportunity. Lot He's like, you're here, let's pick
Speaker 3: some activities. It's like summer camp, but people probably don't
Speaker 3: have to give up all their worldly belongings to join
Speaker 3: a summer camp. Shawna picks self care. She thinks it
Speaker 3: means spars and you know, painting your toenails, but it
Speaker 3: actually means that she's gonna have to look after a
Speaker 3: very cute baby goat named Bruce.
Speaker 1: She gets into it, She gets very into it.
Speaker 3: And I have to say, this is one of my
Speaker 3: this is such good writing. But Shawna is just absolutely
Speaker 3: fucking sure that she's gonna have to kill the goat. Yes,
Speaker 3: and everybody is like nobody says it, Like nobody ever
Speaker 3: says it. But she's convinced that she's gonna have to
Speaker 3: look after this goat, grow close to it, and then
Speaker 3: have it die. And I think we can understand where
Speaker 3: that fear is coming from. Tye selects the creepily named Renewal,
Speaker 3: which leads her to painting a cabin with a makeup brush.
Speaker 3: It's very mister Meagi, very karate kid. Van chooses foraging,
Speaker 3: but Van's also like, fuck you, I'm just going to
Speaker 3: forage some whiskey out of my car. Like I'm not
Speaker 3: doing this shit.
Speaker 1: Not doing this. I don't have a lot of time left.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I gotta make the most of
Speaker 3: what I got. Ye Misty gets left with guidance, sending
Speaker 3: her to an isolation tank, which she is less than
Speaker 3: happy to experience, but where she almoratedly treats viewers to
Speaker 3: a season best sequence that has to be seen to
Speaker 3: be believed. But we will get to that in a
Speaker 3: little while. In a wilderness, coach Ben oh man, he's
Speaker 3: still struggling. I love this is such a cool way
Speaker 3: to kind of I think we're going to be ending
Speaker 3: this part of his disassociation storyline here, but he gets
Speaker 3: he hallucinates getting a call from his ex boyfriend or
Speaker 3: his boyfriend who is still you know, not in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: But this time we see his boyfriend in the cabin,
Speaker 3: and Ben is just fully invested in this fantasy, in
Speaker 3: this delusion. He talks to him, he wants to know,
Speaker 3: and the boyfriend's like, no, it's over. You've got to leave.
Speaker 3: We can't do this anymore. And Ben kind of screams
Speaker 3: after him into the forest and all the girls look
Speaker 3: at him, like, who the fuck is Paul, Who are
Speaker 3: you talking to? And Ben's kind of like, oh, don't worry,
Speaker 3: I'm all good man, I'm doing good. I'm doing okay,
Speaker 3: And he kind of has a creepy smile on his face,
Speaker 3: which doesn't bode well. No, Misty is digging out the
Speaker 3: cabin and she overhears Aquila, Marie, and Jen celebrating her
Speaker 3: aptitude at Shawna's birth. Yay love to hear a compliment,
Speaker 3: but quickly she also hears Maray reveal that she thinks
Speaker 3: Misty is more psychotic than ever, and I have to say,
Speaker 3: Maray is not wrong. Mary suggests that Misty actually did
Speaker 3: something to Crystal, perhaps killed her.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, what we say on this program, we
Speaker 2: were right.
Speaker 3: Mari was right Mary.
Speaker 5: But Misty, being that you know, delightful and always innovative
Speaker 5: sociopath that she is, uses this intel to manipulate the
Speaker 5: crew by suggesting that they should all go and look
Speaker 5: for her dead friend Crystal, which.
Speaker 3: Kind of wins a keeler over to the side and Marie,
Speaker 3: I don't think she's believing it. So this episode, if
Speaker 3: you have ever wondered about the rules of Yellow Jacket's cannibalism,
Speaker 3: which of course is a large part of the mystery
Speaker 3: of the show, we start to get hints here about
Speaker 3: how that part of the wilderness culture is going to
Speaker 3: be shaped, because Lotti does a little speech about the
Speaker 3: wilderness when Misty suggests going to find Crystal, and it
Speaker 3: comes out that Lotty basically believes that Shawna's baby was
Speaker 3: a sacrifice that allowed Shawna to live. If you remember
Speaker 3: the girls said Marie specifically tactless as ever when Shawna
Speaker 3: was in labor, said Wilderness, I hope Shawna doesn't die.
Speaker 3: And Lotti seems to have put two and two together
Speaker 3: and made a supernatural five and decided that the reason
Speaker 3: the baby died was the wilderness taking that so Shawna
Speaker 3: could live. And I think that that hints quite likely
Speaker 3: that we could the killings that we see, you know,
Speaker 3: that opening sequence that kind of got the Internet talking
Speaker 3: in that first ever episode of the show, we might
Speaker 3: be in a situation where those killings are sacrifices to
Speaker 3: appease the worldness or to get something that they want.
Speaker 3: And I think something really we get something really interesting here,
Speaker 3: which is some of the JV squad, like Jen and
Speaker 3: like a couple of other girls who are like very
Speaker 3: not in the center of the story. They're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know, if Crystal, if she's missing, if she's dead,
Speaker 3: like what if we just hate her? And they are
Speaker 3: incredibly chill about it. They're like, could be a nice stack,
Speaker 3: like not saying it.
Speaker 2: I mean once you eat one person, and that was
Speaker 2: a person that you like, liked, who was one of
Speaker 2: the most popular.
Speaker 1: Well not well popular, but she was like the queen Bee.
Speaker 1: It was one. Yeah, it was like a main mover
Speaker 1: and shaker in this group, Chris the weirdo. Nobody even
Speaker 1: knew that. Don't eveny know Chrystal exactly.
Speaker 3: Really, That's what I'm saying. And then like you know,
Speaker 3: not saying I hope she's not saying. I hope she's dead,
Speaker 3: but like if she if she was, it would be
Speaker 3: like a waste.
Speaker 2: I hope right, if she was dead, I hope that
Speaker 2: the rich and nutritious areas for body are still worth eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that we could have another delicious little
Speaker 3: group barbecue, little little fun delusion for full tommies. But
Speaker 3: Misty is not gonna let anyone eat her friend. She's
Speaker 3: not having it. She goes out to search for Crystal,
Speaker 3: who she's pretending is still alive, with Mari and Aequila
Speaker 3: and does little Meryl Streep style performance. She cries, oh,
Speaker 3: I can't do this, it's so hard. She's channeling her
Speaker 3: best Steel Magnolias, and she sneaks off to find Crystal
Speaker 3: before her teammates. Now she says, Crystal, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: let them eat you. But I think she really just
Speaker 3: doesn't want them to find the dead body, because yeah,
Speaker 3: then they will probably know she did kill her. Interestingly,
Speaker 3: she doesn't find Crystal's body at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: cliff where Crystal fell to her untimely death. You mentioned,
Speaker 3: does anyone really know Crystal? Let's talk about this. Yes,
Speaker 3: was Crystal real? Did Crystal exist?
Speaker 2: I think Crystal existed, but I also think her quote
Speaker 2: unquote death. Uh, you know, it might be a Horvey situation.
Speaker 3: It might be, you know, like something odd going on that.
Speaker 2: There is something there's a lot of in this episode
Speaker 2: and previous episodes, but definitely overtly in this episode we
Speaker 2: will get to the big one, the big we will
Speaker 2: write there is a lot of people seeing things, having
Speaker 2: full conversations that did not happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember from the very first time Crystal
Speaker 3: showed up and this season and she was singing, and
Speaker 3: she was out there in the backyard with Misty, it
Speaker 3: seemed like a lot of their interactions were happening with
Speaker 3: no one else around. Now people were saying, oh, we'll
Speaker 3: look for Crystal, We'll look for your friend, you know.
Speaker 3: So the assumption is there was a person called Crystal
Speaker 3: who was in yellow jackets and people seemed to be
Speaker 3: aware of her existence. But the Crystal that we know
Speaker 3: who was Misty's best friend, who Misty killed, it's becoming
Speaker 3: more and more unclear whether that version of Crystal ever
Speaker 3: really existed, and the fact that Crystal's body isn't there
Speaker 3: maybe Harvey's mysterious friend took it. Maybe somebody already found
Speaker 3: it to eat it. Maybe a moose ate it. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but the fact it's not there is very suspicious,
Speaker 3: and I think we'll likely come into play in these
Speaker 3: next two episodes.
Speaker 2: Misty does still never exist. It is interesting, it is, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because there is a distinct lack
Speaker 3: of interest in finding Crystal, and there is when you
Speaker 3: go back and watch the episodes, Crystal rarely ever interacts
Speaker 3: with anyone, if ever, when Misty isn't there. So I'm
Speaker 3: just very interested in what that relationship really looks like
Speaker 3: and how Crystal plays into kind of Misty's ongoing journey
Speaker 3: and obviously like deep troubles and struggles with her mental health.
Speaker 3: So she does not find Crystal's dead body, but she
Speaker 3: does find Coach Ben and he's very creepy and calm,
Speaker 3: and he shaved off his beard and he's about to
Speaker 3: throw himself off a cliff. Yes, he's just like I'm done.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this is similar to the Crystal lines.
Speaker 2: Is this did he really shave off his beard or
Speaker 2: or is this he was notably having a hallucination, a
Speaker 2: conversation with his partner, and it seemed, at least I
Speaker 2: read it as the shaving was like a reaction to
Speaker 2: either that conversation or.
Speaker 1: Some version of.
Speaker 2: Him has now intersected with this forest reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely some kind of strange acceptance that Ben
Speaker 3: has come to here that seems to be connected to
Speaker 3: his past disassociation delusions and the forest. And it's also
Speaker 3: unclear whether he sees this as committing suicide, like he
Speaker 3: seems very calm about it. He seems like he knows
Speaker 3: what he has to do. And it is a very
Speaker 3: interesting interaction because for once, Misty does not kill someone.
Speaker 3: In fact, he actually asks her to kill him. He says, Missy,
Speaker 3: couldn't you just push me off the edge like.
Speaker 2: You've done so many times in the year person who
Speaker 2: kills people?
Speaker 3: Couldn't you just do that?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: And Misty actually have to say in once again we
Speaker 3: are Misty defenders here she uses her evil powers for good.
Speaker 3: She tells him, I'm gonna tell everyone that you were
Speaker 3: like creepy, that you were impregnated. Sure not, She's like
Speaker 3: she's trying, She's like, don't kill yourself, because then I
Speaker 3: will control the narrative.
Speaker 1: I will control the narrative.
Speaker 3: And she's like, and I'm gonna tell everyone you're gay,
Speaker 3: and that one He's actually like, i'd like you to do.
Speaker 1: That, Please do it.
Speaker 3: He knows in his heart that that was the one
Speaker 3: fuck up that he had made in his past he
Speaker 3: wished he could change, was that he didn't get to
Speaker 3: live out with his partner. But you know what, in
Speaker 3: the end, a non Merril Street performance. I do believe
Speaker 3: Misty was quite upset. Misty breaks down into tears and
Speaker 3: Coach Ben is like, actually, I'm not gonna kill myself,
Speaker 3: shocking you.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was a Misty fan. But you
Speaker 3: know what, I think maybe we're seeing him come up
Speaker 3: out of the depths of despair he has been in
Speaker 3: and start to try and be a little bit more
Speaker 3: active in the cannibal cabin community, which I know has
Speaker 3: been hard for him. Yes it has, it's been hard,
Speaker 3: but this was also I will say, Missy's very lucky
Speaker 3: that this happened, because she absolutely would have got blamed
Speaker 3: for that murder even if she didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you can't be around listen If you're
Speaker 1: around one dead body, it's an you know it happened,
Speaker 1: she felt, it's an accident. If you're around two, now
Speaker 1: the hard questions.
Speaker 3: Start, and the second one is somebody you already poisoned,
Speaker 3: you already tried, lest we not forget.
Speaker 2: I think at that point, uh, you know, the the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt evaporates quite quickly. Yeah, X ray
Speaker 2: vision will be back, and we're back.
Speaker 3: At Camp green Pine. Misty and Shawna have a little
Speaker 3: argument after Shawna tries to judge Misty about her panchan't
Speaker 3: for killing, and Misty rightfully points out that Shawna is
Speaker 3: also a murderer and not just that. But Shawna wouldn't
Speaker 3: have even gotten away with it if it wasn't for Misty.
Speaker 3: Shanna says, Misty doesn't take killing seriously. But Misty's like, actually,
Speaker 3: I was the only one who took your murder seriously enough.
Speaker 1: That's right. And thank you? Yeah I didn't get a
Speaker 1: thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, where's my thank you? You never even thank me,
Speaker 3: You were never grateful for it. That's bad. It's classy
Speaker 3: Misty home truth. But yeah, can Misty face some home
Speaker 3: truth of her own? Before we get to that Shawna
Speaker 3: tells Lottie, I'm not going to kill the goat and not.
Speaker 3: He's like, bro, nobody said you have to kill it.
Speaker 3: Just look after the goat. The goat is innocent. If
Speaker 3: you look after the goat, maybe you start to look
Speaker 3: after yourself better. And this leads to like a massive
Speaker 3: revelation for Shaana where she kind of cries and Melanie Lynsky,
Speaker 3: Melanie Lynsky's at a high level, giving a great performance.
Speaker 3: Shauna basically just says, I've always kept Cally at arm's
Speaker 3: length because I thought she would die or I'd find
Speaker 3: out she wasn't even real, yeah, which is obviously exactly
Speaker 3: what happened to Shana in the forest. So it sounds
Speaker 3: like that trauma of the wilderness is really fucking her up.
Speaker 3: And I want to say, we always say it about Ty,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying it to you, Shauna, get some help,
Speaker 3: not just go to a therapist. Like that's very sad,
Speaker 3: and I wish that you and Callie can find a good,
Speaker 3: non in prison way of bonding before this all ends.
Speaker 3: Everyone's having great foods at Camp Green Pine Misty heads
Speaker 3: into the isolation tank, and I really love this because
Speaker 3: Misty is like terrified to face herself. She is sure
Speaker 3: that she is going to have a nightmarish time in
Speaker 3: the isolation tank, that she's gonna see all the terrible
Speaker 3: murders she's committed, or you know, have to deal with
Speaker 3: all the awful things that she's done. But instead she
Speaker 3: just enjoys a magnificent musical vision which features Walter dancing
Speaker 3: in a top hat a human version of her pet
Speaker 3: parrot Caligular. She's standing in front of like a very
Speaker 3: Twin Peaks lodge red curve.
Speaker 1: It was like big Lebowski.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dream Sequence meets Twin Peaks meets meets Altered States.
Speaker 3: And the only thing that even hints towards Misty's past
Speaker 3: is you get this really great illustration of the plane
Speaker 3: recorder that she smashed. You get a little syringe from
Speaker 3: all the people she's murdered driving through. But you know what,
Speaker 3: she's having a great time. She's laughing, Walter is doing
Speaker 3: a great little dance routine. And then you see Walter
Speaker 3: pull out a Garfield phone iconic. I still want one
Speaker 3: of those. I wanted when ever since I was a kid,
Speaker 3: And as the Internet so wonder Flea deciphered he writes
Speaker 3: in morse code as he is dialing, and you see
Speaker 3: it come up on the screen. I love you backwards.
Speaker 3: Thank you to those Internet sitters and detectives who found
Speaker 3: that out for us. Hilariously, Misty's only takeaway from her
Speaker 3: isolation is that Water loves her. She loves Walter, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like happily ever after together. So she
Speaker 3: calls him and tries to make up. Walter does not answer,
Speaker 3: but she leaves a very unhinged voicemail, which I loved.
Speaker 3: She even does a fake no you hang up, No,
Speaker 3: you hang up, she admits to Adam's murder over the phone.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 3: She's like, you know that thing you said? It's true.
Speaker 3: But will Walter get her message? We don't know because
Speaker 3: he didn't pick up. But you know what, it's not
Speaker 3: the only romance going down. Van and Tie they find
Speaker 3: each other in the candle lit groves of camp Pine.
Speaker 3: Why who put out all those candles in the woods?
Speaker 3: Seems dangerous, but you know what, it's romantic and they
Speaker 3: share an illicit kiss. Tis like it's going to be
Speaker 3: a long time so I can be in this and
Speaker 3: Van's like, bro, I can't wait for you literally.
Speaker 2: We don't don't have that, don't have waiting a few times, Sorry, don't.
Speaker 1: I've got it.
Speaker 3: I've got cancer. And it's not one of those good
Speaker 3: kinds of cancer where people are like, oh, it's so
Speaker 3: lucky you got this kind or oh we caught it
Speaker 3: just in time. No, remember how my mom died of cancer?
Speaker 3: Well now I got it and I got like months
Speaker 3: to live. And Tie is upset and I wants to
Speaker 3: know why she didn't call. But let's be real, it's
Speaker 3: because Tie sucks. But tis a terrible friend as adult,
Speaker 3: just not doing well.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Ty's wife is currently in hospital in a coma. Where
Speaker 3: is her son who?
Speaker 1: By the way, Tie put her in that coma.
Speaker 3: I put her in a coma.
Speaker 2: That's right, She's in a coma of ties making. And
Speaker 2: now Tie is off somewhere rekindling the the romance, her
Speaker 2: high school romance shockaches while her her partner, her legal partner,
Speaker 2: cole parent, lies in a coma that she put her in.
Speaker 2: Terrible stuff, terrible, heart warming scene.
Speaker 3: Heart warming scene, a terrible scene. So yeah, Lotti also
Speaker 3: has a breakthrough, and I want to say, this is
Speaker 3: a big we were right moment. Jason absolutely called this
Speaker 3: like what work last week? And Lotty's breakthrough is a
Speaker 3: terrifying one because Lotti is sitting with her therapist, who
Speaker 3: we mentioned seemed a little bit of us and as
Speaker 3: Jason pointed out, we learned this episode that she is
Speaker 3: not real. She gives her some very bad advice. We
Speaker 3: see her saying things to her like, is there anything
Speaker 3: of value in this life that doesn't come with risk? Lotti?
Speaker 3: She says, Lotti, what does self repression ever give us? Like,
Speaker 3: maybe the reason you want to see these women is
Speaker 3: because the feral part of you is and what he
Speaker 3: starts to suspect that something is up and then dun't
Speaker 3: dunt dune. The therapist transforms into the ant La Queen,
Speaker 3: who has been a rare sight this last two seasons,
Speaker 3: and she says, does a hunt that has no violence
Speaker 3: feed anyone? Before disappearing. So is this just a straight
Speaker 3: Lotty hallucination or is she being like manipulated by the
Speaker 3: wilderness and the Antler Queen into this kind of magical
Speaker 3: thinking about the girls and having them all there at
Speaker 3: Camp Green Pine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's some version of the latter. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I don't think we I think we're circling around it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think it's pretty clear that whatever it is
Speaker 2: is coming from the outside and it's you know, there
Speaker 2: was a time listeners will remember not that long or
Speaker 2: we were pretty sure Lottie was behind in some former
Speaker 2: fashion moving this kind of stuff forward. But it's very
Speaker 2: clear that she is a victim of this like everybody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I will also say they said something interesting, which
Speaker 1: is that they seem to suggest that nobody really really
Speaker 1: remembers what happened exactly.
Speaker 3: That's about I was gonna I have a big so
Speaker 3: in an extremely bad friend move in my opinion. Van
Speaker 3: brings her bottle of boos to the sharing lord, and
Speaker 3: it seems very fair. It seems like they all try
Speaker 3: and encourage Natalie to drink, though I will say I
Speaker 3: think Natalie says no, so good for you, Natalie, But
Speaker 3: I was I was feeling mad about that. I didn't
Speaker 3: feel like that. Yes, I was like drinking and started showing
Speaker 3: her like it was.
Speaker 2: It was bad and then she's like, I have very
Speaker 2: serious addiction issues.
Speaker 1: Oh why don't you have a drink?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And Sean is like, oh, you aren't you a fuck? Up,
Speaker 3: like how you can't be telling us this, And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: you are bad friends. Like I'm not surprising Natalie ended
Speaker 3: up so fucked up. But Lottie, I will say in
Speaker 3: a rare responsible moments, and she's like, you gotta leave,
Speaker 3: like none of this is real, Like I'm hallucinating. But
Speaker 3: they're just like, now we're wasted. We want to get wasted.
Speaker 3: We want to have fun and drink and dance and
Speaker 3: just enjoy our life. And in an unbelievable moment which
Speaker 3: I actually had to watch, I had to rewind it
Speaker 3: to really check that they did this. But Misty almost
Speaker 3: kills the vibe by referencing the crash as you know
Speaker 3: that first summer.
Speaker 2: It was so funny, like a summer camp thing, right,
Speaker 2: and everyone's.
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck? Like no, and also like first summer,
Speaker 3: I'm like, did that happen to you? Again? Like what happened?
Speaker 3: But it does lead to that very big revelation that
Speaker 3: you were mentioning about when Nat asks everyone like how
Speaker 3: much do you actually remember about being there? And it
Speaker 3: seems like they don't really remember very much about being
Speaker 3: in the woods.
Speaker 2: Now this is a this is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 2: Because I always perceive the flashbacks as remembers.
Speaker 3: Yes, it feels like we and the way that the
Speaker 3: narrative has been structured and edited, we often learn things
Speaker 3: that feel very relevant to where the characters are in
Speaker 3: the modern day. So the fact that they sort of say, oh,
Speaker 3: for me, it's blurry or like I repressed it, and
Speaker 3: you know, Ty says, it feels like things have just
Speaker 3: been completely pulled out of her brain. That's very supernatural,
Speaker 3: leaning to be.
Speaker 2: Yes, s same here, which leads me, I guess these
Speaker 2: are just I mean again, I always thought that the
Speaker 2: flashbacks were their memories, but clearly they're not, and so
Speaker 2: I think we can take them. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: I think that the upside is we can take those
Speaker 2: a lot more seriously.
Speaker 3: A little bit more objective rather than unreliable narrators. But interestingly,
Speaker 3: also especially heading into the end of this season, then
Speaker 3: what will be season three whenever the writers strike is over.
Speaker 3: Who is showing them to us? And what is the purpose?
Speaker 3: How do these women try and navigate their lives with
Speaker 3: these memories of all the terrible things they did as girls?
Speaker 3: And Shawna does have the journals, and Shawna definitely knows
Speaker 3: a little bit more because she talks a lot about
Speaker 3: shame and the terrible things they did. But Natalie, Antie
Speaker 3: and Lotti, they all basically say that they don't really
Speaker 3: remember anything.
Speaker 1: I kind of related to this.
Speaker 2: I've been wondering if the Antler queen is not any
Speaker 2: one of them is a different entity altogether. Now, it
Speaker 2: might be a alter ego of Lotties. I think that
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: In that's in play.
Speaker 3: Or even an all ego of Ties. You know, we
Speaker 3: know Nighttime Tie is like a separate personality that.
Speaker 1: Is in the cards.
Speaker 2: But I also wonder if it's not a complete separate
Speaker 2: entity altogether. Yeah, And I am also wondering if, as
Speaker 2: with Tie, they are all kind of in various ways
Speaker 2: wrestling with their alter with their evil alter views. You know,
Speaker 2: obviously Tie is the one that's you know, most obviously
Speaker 2: in that kind of conflict, But I do wonder if
Speaker 2: the rest of them aren't having that kind of struggle,
Speaker 2: but just not perceiving it as a completely binary, different
Speaker 2: person that's inhabiting their body.
Speaker 3: No, I definitely could see that. I think that's something
Speaker 3: really interesting there, especially because of that theory we were
Speaker 3: talking about last week. About like the girls needing to
Speaker 3: come back together again to kind of like get rid
Speaker 3: of whatever, the dark thing that they brought back. That
Speaker 3: could definitely just be like a different part of that
Speaker 3: personality that they had to repress. And also I think
Speaker 3: that that and like Queen being a different person is
Speaker 3: actually really interesting because in the episode five, where at
Speaker 3: the end we see Natalie's vision where they're in the
Speaker 3: plane and she sees the the Antler Queen lift up
Speaker 3: the veil from pausing, that people discovered that she saw
Speaker 3: herself as the Antler Queen. I don't think Natalie's Antler Queen,
Speaker 3: but I do think that Antler Queen represents a role
Speaker 3: that maybe they played at different points. Maybe they all
Speaker 3: took that on, maybe that was something they did. Or
Speaker 3: as you said, could we know that Harvey had a
Speaker 3: friend who told him not to return to the camp.
Speaker 3: That could be the Antler Quin. She could be the
Speaker 3: one who runs those woods. You could be in a
Speaker 3: much more simple Witch style series. But I will say
Speaker 3: the end of this episode I think leans into one
Speaker 3: of our big really out their tin FOI hat theories,
Speaker 3: which is the like parallel timeline theory where things are
Speaker 3: happening at the same time. So the girls are talking
Speaker 3: and it seems like they're going to have a breakthrough,
Speaker 3: kind of this realization they don't really know stuff. But
Speaker 3: on Lotty's playlist, Lightning Crashes by Live starts to play
Speaker 3: in Van says, this is my favorite song if you
Speaker 3: like all these outrageously well selected needle drops. There is
Speaker 3: official Yellowjackets playlist on Spotify, and there's just so many
Speaker 3: good choices on there. So they begin to dance. Misty
Speaker 3: realizes that it's snowing, and they start to kind of
Speaker 3: have this party, and it seems like really good bonding,
Speaker 3: this freedom between them. But in the past, kid, Misty
Speaker 3: starts humming the song, and that to me is because
Speaker 3: of what comes next. It seems unlikely to me that
Speaker 3: they would connect that song to something.
Speaker 1: Good right in the future. Why would you do that?
Speaker 3: But there's this idea that those things could be happening
Speaker 3: at the same time, and the song is almost kind
Speaker 3: of leaking through that ethera between the two timelines is
Speaker 3: very interesting to me. So Misty hams a song Shorn
Speaker 3: freaks the fuck out. She's like, where did you hear that?
Speaker 3: Why are you singing that? And then she's like you
Speaker 3: killed my baby. She slaps Misty. She's biting van like
Speaker 3: her rage is just it's overflowing at this point, and
Speaker 3: Lotty as the marta that she is, She turns to Shauna.
Speaker 3: Shauna punches her in the face. Lotty wipes her nose.
Speaker 3: She tells Harvey and Travis to leave, says Travis, take
Speaker 3: Harvey to the bedroom. Doesn't want to see this, and
Speaker 3: she tells Shawna, you want to get this rage out.
Speaker 3: We need you here, not like this. We need you
Speaker 3: here present. We need you here in a way that
Speaker 3: you can help us. We need you. You survived, the
Speaker 3: baby didn't survive. You need to be here. So Shauna
Speaker 3: understands the very bleak implications of this and just beats
Speaker 3: the shout of Lotty. It is I so brutal.
Speaker 2: To the point where I'm watching this and going on,
Speaker 2: I don't how does she live through There's no medical
Speaker 2: care out there. I'm like, you could die from this.
Speaker 3: I felt like so they I think they know where
Speaker 3: we're all at with fan theories and everything right, because
Speaker 3: it is so bad that when Shauna rolls off of Lotty,
Speaker 3: Lotty looks dead. The prosthetics are unbelievable. Her face is
Speaker 3: just absolutely swollen and cut, and Lotty didn't she never
Speaker 3: fought back. This scene made me cry because it one,
Speaker 3: it's very intense, but also there is this unbelievably weird,
Speaker 3: emotional self sacrifice that Lotty is taking here and she
Speaker 3: just takes it. It's it's really just upsetting to watch,
Speaker 3: and you think you think Lotty's dead, and Shauna shakes
Speaker 3: her and and I felt like they would probably leave
Speaker 3: it there, and that's your cliffhanger, but it's Lotti, she'd
Speaker 3: probably magic. She takes this kind of staggering breath just
Speaker 3: before it cuts to black, and spits blood from between
Speaker 3: her broken teeth, and Shauna goes outside and ices her
Speaker 3: bleeding knuckles, and it's just incredibly bleak stuff. And you'd
Speaker 3: think that that was where the episode would end because
Speaker 3: it was so horrific and shocking and you sort of
Speaker 3: can't really take any more. But no, the show still
Speaker 3: wants you to have an anxiety attack, still wants Shanna
Speaker 3: to have an anxiety attack, wants to leave you as
Speaker 3: on edge as possible. So Jeff brilliant. Another brilliant Jeff moment.
Speaker 3: He calls Camp Green Pine and very aware that his
Speaker 3: phone may be buggd good.
Speaker 1: This is a good day God call by Jeff, very.
Speaker 3: Good call by Jeff. He says hey Seana, and Shawna,
Speaker 3: in a good mum moment, says, how's Cally? Did something happen? No, hey, Shawna,
Speaker 3: So some bad news. Remember that guy that you got
Speaker 3: into a crash with and he was missing and the
Speaker 3: police were interested in him. Well, it turns out they
Speaker 3: found his remain Remember him, Adam. We don't have anything
Speaker 3: to do with it, but you know it sounds like
Speaker 3: they found him in this park. Uh cool, have a
Speaker 3: good trip by incredible and that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3: So Adam's remains on now in play.
Speaker 2: Guys, I feel like we got some, as you mentioned,
Speaker 2: some really good evidence for either the either the present
Speaker 2: timeline is happening first or they're happening at the same time,
Speaker 2: and these are two versions of the same people who
Speaker 2: are being informed by the events in the other time.
Speaker 3: Very lupers like somehow the time there is a correlation
Speaker 3: between what is happening in both timelines. I'm so interested.
Speaker 3: There is two episodes left of this season. We have
Speaker 3: ended up in an outrageous situation where we have two
Speaker 3: episodes left of this and two episodes of Succession. I
Speaker 3: don't know how they're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 1: I have zero ability to call this one.
Speaker 3: I could not make a bet. I would not be
Speaker 3: on market moves.
Speaker 1: Both shows, honestly, both shows.
Speaker 3: I would love to know. I mean, there was that
Speaker 3: great video that you shared in our like pre pro
Speaker 3: chat where it was the guy who plays Carl from
Speaker 3: Succession and he's like, you will never guess. He's like,
Speaker 3: whatever you think you might know about the way it's
Speaker 3: gonna end, you will never guess.
Speaker 1: David rash, We'll have the will have the link to that.
Speaker 3: Video because it's very good.
Speaker 2: In the show notes, yeah, he says you may think
Speaker 2: that you can predict it, but you never will, which
Speaker 2: leads me to believe that everything that we have guessed at.
Speaker 3: Is completely wrong. Yeah, I know. And I feel like
Speaker 3: Succession has that tendency too. I mean Yellow Jackets has
Speaker 3: that potential too, where there's so much that they have
Speaker 3: to do in two episodes. They have to wrap certain
Speaker 3: things up, but they also have to set up conflict
Speaker 3: for the third season. They have to give us a
Speaker 3: certain amount of answers, so that people will stay invested,
Speaker 3: but they also have to leave us with a lot
Speaker 3: of questions. So it's going to be a really interesting
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be incredible up next nerd Out.
Speaker 3: In today's nerd Out, way you tell us what you
Speaker 3: love them, why, or a theory that you're excited to share,
Speaker 3: Nick shas a bloody yellow Jackets theory.
Speaker 2: Nick says this came to mind hearing your theory that
Speaker 2: Shawna's nosebleed landing on the symbol related to the birds
Speaker 2: falling to their deaths. Misty suggests it is related to
Speaker 2: the iron in the ground. What is known for its
Speaker 2: iron content blood, which we have been seeing a lot
Speaker 2: of symbolism around. Could that be the link. Also, when
Speaker 2: you're pregnant, like Shawna, you also need more iron than normal.
Speaker 1: Could be part of.
Speaker 2: A supernatural explanation for some of the strange happenings as
Speaker 2: the show progresses. But this might not explain the significance
Speaker 2: of the symbol. Do the symbols point to iron rich
Speaker 2: or light areas or something. Okay, that's probably a stretch,
Speaker 2: but still, Nick, this is very interesting.
Speaker 3: This is very interesting.
Speaker 2: I have been thinking more and more about the symbols,
Speaker 2: and I now this is based on nothing other than
Speaker 2: our own navel gazing, but I have been trying to
Speaker 2: decipher the symbol as a kind of pictorial representation of
Speaker 2: intersecting timelines.
Speaker 1: You have like one timeline coming in this way, other
Speaker 1: ones coming.
Speaker 2: In this way, and then they all meet in the
Speaker 2: middle somehow Is that it? I don't know, but seeing
Speaker 2: that symbol, like, let me ask you this. This is
Speaker 2: going back in episode there's that pull out shot of
Speaker 2: Lotties cult camp and we see that the chairs and
Speaker 2: this outdoor kind of arena are are set up in
Speaker 2: the shape of the symbol.
Speaker 1: Do you think she did that on purpose?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean she they actually I noticed this week
Speaker 3: and they they actually use they have little symbol like
Speaker 3: necklaces with the symbol on if they're in her cult.
Speaker 3: So I think that leans into Lotty's idea that it's
Speaker 3: some kind of protection. But how much does she realize
Speaker 3: that could be happening on like a grander scale at
Speaker 3: the cult I'm very interested in. I also think this
Speaker 3: theory is interesting because I feel like the symbol is
Speaker 3: something they have to answer this season. Yes, and the
Speaker 3: iron thing is interesting because Lottie says that the symbol
Speaker 3: is for protection and in like medieval folklore and also
Speaker 3: like fantacy, iron is always something that was used against
Speaker 3: magic or to protect against witches and stuff. So maybe
Speaker 3: there's something in there with the blood and the iron
Speaker 3: content and kind of how that may be impacting the girls.
Speaker 3: Though I will also I do think both of us
Speaker 3: have moved away from the more logical explanations that we
Speaker 3: used to think, like that is it an iron rich
Speaker 3: area and they're hallucinating based on what they're eating out
Speaker 3: of the ground, like is it an army base. I
Speaker 3: still think I would be very surprised if that was
Speaker 3: the route they went at this point, because I feel
Speaker 3: like they're doing so much supernatural adjacent work. Though I
Speaker 3: will say this is I think it would be a stretch,
Speaker 3: and I think they would have to really commit to
Speaker 3: it in a very deep and serious way that would
Speaker 3: probably take a whole season. I do think there is
Speaker 3: a version of this show where it's just about the
Speaker 3: impact of trauma and there's actually nothing supernatural and there's
Speaker 3: nothing weird. It's just how they experience that terrifying time
Speaker 3: and how that kind of bleeds into their daily life now.
Speaker 3: But I think that would be almost you'd have to
Speaker 3: take almost like a barrier level switch to be able
Speaker 3: to explain that away. I feel like.
Speaker 2: Thinking about the iron and this, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the things I've been wondering. There's, you know, in fairy folklore,
Speaker 2: in various various cultures that have like fairy folklore, Like
Speaker 2: one of the facets of fairy folklore is that they'll
Speaker 2: throw this huge feast and a party for people, and
Speaker 2: if you eat their wonderful food, then all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: You be you Yeah, like Greek mythology too, Yeah, who
Speaker 3: eats the pomegranate? You know, you end up trapped in
Speaker 3: the world of the dead.
Speaker 2: And I you know, I don't know if a fairy
Speaker 2: thing is going on, but it does feel like, certainly
Speaker 2: with the imagery around the initial cannibal incident, it does
Speaker 2: feel like they they have eaten of this magical feast
Speaker 2: and now are trapped somehow.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it feels I increasingly think it
Speaker 2: has to be.
Speaker 1: It just has to be supernal.
Speaker 3: I think so too. And also, if we're going back
Speaker 3: to the symbol, I think you could say the symbol
Speaker 3: does look like a fairy, the dress with all the
Speaker 3: different things coming out of it. I would I would
Speaker 3: love for them to do. I love like hard fantasy
Speaker 3: stuff like that. There's this great series of books by
Speaker 3: Holly Black setting like the World of the Fayfolk, and
Speaker 3: that taught me a lot about those kind of rules
Speaker 3: and things like you know, iron being used to repel fairies.
Speaker 3: And I would absolutely love if they did like a
Speaker 3: big swing like scary that Antler queen is a fairy
Speaker 3: and this was them kind of taking part in this
Speaker 3: feast of the fee who eat who do eat? Humans
Speaker 3: who have this terrifying kind of thing, and they are
Speaker 3: now part of that world and kind of partially half
Speaker 3: in half out of that world. Would also work as
Speaker 3: a kind of version of our final destination theory, where
Speaker 3: they're basically stuck in between two worlds and are being
Speaker 3: hunted down by something from both. I'm in now, that's it,
Speaker 3: Yellow Jackets, Fairy Show, that's my, I'm into it, that's
Speaker 3: my that's my headcanon. Now it's all fairies.
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