1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:00,679 Speaker 1: Warning. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: This podcast contains spoilers for season four episode eight of 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Succession on HBO, season two episode seven of Yellowjackets on Showtime. Hello, 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: my name is Jason Sepsion and I'm Rosey Night and 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: welcome to x Revision, the Crooked media podcast where we 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: In this week's very intense episode, it's market Moves and 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: then moving all over the place, up, down, all around. Terrible, 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: terrible times. In Succession season four episode eight. Trigger warning, 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: it's too much like the real world. It's too much 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: in the airlock. It's getting intense in the forest. In 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Yellowjackets season two episodes, you thought last week's episode had 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: a bomber ending, wait till you see this week's episode. 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: And in Nodout, we've got a Yellow Jackets theory from 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: listener Nick. 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Market Moves. I wanna be the CEO. 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: I wanna do it all alone. 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Rigging votes is my real test beating move. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: This is my cause. 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: I will elect a president to live in the House 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: so white. 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: In turn, he'll regulate kill the deal. 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: From inside Market Moves, that's right, it's Market Mooves, folks. 24 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: The number one source for economic prosperity. 25 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Let's grow that bank account, folks. We're talking about episode eight, 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: America Decides of the Succession television program written by Jesse 27 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: Armstrong himself, and it is it's a tense one. I 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: think I speak for you, Rosie. Everybody on our staff 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: and every listener of the market moves Financial success audio program. 30 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: When I say I hope our next presidential election is 31 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: just like that, I hope it happens exactly that way. 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: This is the American dream. If you're in line, folks, 33 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: stay in line. Bere's we're changed in the paradigm. It's 34 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: election day, Tom, just. 35 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Like the future of American democracy is a little bit 36 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: on edge. He's under tremendous pressure to deliver massive ratings 37 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: and explosion of ratings lest he loses job. You know, 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: this is the first post Logan election night at ATM 39 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: and it's. 40 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: Got to be big. 41 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Ken knows the stakes. It's the post As we mentioned, 42 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, his dad is gone. He is now the 43 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: co CEO along with Rome, and so they've got to 44 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: really make it happen. So he really puts the spurs 45 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: to Tom, telling him like it's gotta be huge, it's 46 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: got to be big. Tom in turn, is toxic and 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: abusive as we like to his staff. 48 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: We love that. 49 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: We love to see efficiency, we love to see fear. 50 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: We love to see lots of people fired and the 51 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: remaining employees to live in a state of constant anxiety. 52 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: That's capitalism, folks, that's. 53 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: What we love. 54 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: And so Tom, you know, really rides them and he 55 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: tells them like, let's put the most mentally unwell people 56 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: on the air, because that's what gets the ratings, and 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: that's what are that's what our audience loves. Much more 58 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: experienced in terms of elections. Staff says, you know, we're 59 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: it says to Tom, hey, your foot where you're gonna 60 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: be on your feet all night, you gotta have comfortable shoes. 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Those shoes aren't gona be comfort. 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: And then Tom is also worried that he's gonna have 63 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: to piss his pants, you know, like an astronaut, which 64 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: leads us to our first prompt, Rosie, when you have 65 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: to get comfortable total maximum comfort level, because you've got 66 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: to settle in for like a long drive, or you 67 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: got to be on your feet for a long period 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: of time. Because there's a mega mega mega important election 69 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: that's going and you are running the coverage, maybe you 70 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: won't get to get to a bathroom because if you 71 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, some malfunction will happen. Nobody will 72 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: be there to fix it. What is your go to 73 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: comfort outfit? 74 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 3: Whoo? If I'm running as I am, you know, multi 75 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: headed corporations, I'll just wear wherever I want. I'll wear 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: some Vori sweatpants. Yes, I did like. I will take 77 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: a note. I liked the when they showed different people 78 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: who worked at ATM's Feet. All of them were wearing 79 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 3: comfortable slippers. I will join them. I will wear shoes, 80 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: some big, cushy, expensive ug boot. I will be extremely comfortable. 81 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: And then, you know what, just to add little chaos, 82 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: just in case I gotta go on a zoom call, 83 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: gotta fire a few hundred people over the internet, I'll 84 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: just wear like a buttoned down shirt and tie. It's 85 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: pure chaos, but I think it it does double duty. 86 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I for no. 87 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Reason at all, I'm going to echo your take and 88 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: say that I would wear the Viory Sunday joggers on 89 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: my pants and also on my I'd wear one on 90 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: each arm, one pair on each other. 91 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. 92 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: I wouldn't wear like a single pair on my upper 93 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: body because then it would constrict my movement. But I'd 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: have one pair on each arm, the pair the normal 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: way on my legs, and I have another pair on 96 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: my head, and then I would just kind of wrap 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: maybe five or six of them around my torso to 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: kind of keep that covered, because I believe in modesty 99 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: and I don't want I don't want to show too 100 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: much skin, but I want to be extremely comfortable, and 101 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: I find that the Viori fabrics, again just this is 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: completely my unbiased opinion, are the most comfortable of fabrics, 103 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: perhaps ever created by human hands. I think you'd have 104 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 2: to go to like some kind of fantasy world where 105 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: elves create magical garments to find a garment that is 106 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: that most comfortable as that it's really true. 107 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: I like that. 108 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: I think you could intimidate people with the amount of 109 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: extra legs that you had kind of flailing around your body. 110 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: You could stuff them if you wanted to make it 111 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: look like you had multiple arms, some kind of goro 112 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: intimidation technique, or you could choose them to hide important 113 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: documents as you go around doing the inevitable shady things 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: that you would need to do. 115 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: This is all all stuff that I may or may 116 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: not do. I don't want to lock myself down say 117 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: anything that could be used against me later. But I 118 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: think that's right. I think that's right. And you always 119 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: want to keep people guessing as to where your limbs are. 120 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Greg uh has apparently been hanging out with Mattson, with Madson. 121 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: He's spent the evening at some very lurid establishment, apparently 122 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: forcing senile older men to dance, which is so troubling it. 123 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Sounds absolutely haunting. But Greg is loving it. Because Greg 124 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: is moving up of the desperate succession ladder and he 125 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: he is climbing higher than some may expect. 126 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I agree with you, and I 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: think what would be the. 128 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Most surprising outcome this season? You know, you could you 129 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: can imagine this character, that character rising high or bottoming out, 130 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: but I think truly one of the most surprised, Like 131 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, other than Willam, Greg the egg ending up 132 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: on top somehow or or nearer the top is would 133 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: be so shocking. 134 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you. 135 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: It's looking likely. 136 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I. 137 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: Agree, and I think it's something that from the very 138 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: earliest days of the historical documents that have shown us 139 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: what has occurred in the roy family. Many viewers have thought, 140 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be so ironic and tasty and delectable if 141 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: strange cousin greg who may or may not even really 142 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: be related to anyone and who is just absolutely useless, 143 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't it make a lot of sense for him to 144 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: end up on top? Isn't that the topsy turvy world 145 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: we live in? And I do believe that this episod 146 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: so we may be getting that I need to say 147 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: as well, like I have. 148 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: We all know. 149 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: Look, I've said I understood my shave aligned with Matson. 150 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: But we learn in this episode that, as many people suspected, 151 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: myself included, Madson is a live wire. He does not care. 152 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: He will tell Gregory Peggory some important, very secret information 153 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: that will end up causing a big problem, and he 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: doesn't even care. He'll do it while he's dancing with 155 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: a sexy old see no man. 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. Exit polls suggest that while it is uncomfortably 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: close for those of you who you know wouldn't want 158 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: a fascist president. 159 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah you know that small minority. 160 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: Right, that it looks as if Jimenez and Evis are 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: gonna take the nights are looking good. Uh, It's important 162 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: we learn that the ATN folks in the know who 163 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: know about poll numbers not leak that or even hint 164 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: at it on air because they could lose their election 165 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: certification something or other. And also it would be seen 166 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: as an attempt to swing the election for a candidate. 167 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, you. 168 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Don't want to be seen doing that. 169 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: You do not want to be seen doing that. But 170 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: my favorite thing about this information that they are guided 171 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: with is that it then becomes essentially a battle plan 172 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: of how they can do just that. And it is 173 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: impeccable that they took the advice, and we're like, that 174 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: sounds great, let's do it. 175 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: Shiv is of course pulling for Jimenez while Roman is 176 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: marching and ce kaling for Herminken HIV facetimes Lucas. She's 177 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: still they're still working together. Of course, as we just mentioned, 178 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: she wants Lucas to release a statement about the Indian numbers, 179 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: to get in front of that news, you know, and 180 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: this is a great time to do it because the 181 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: nation is going to be absolutely entranced by the election. 182 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: And the results of the election. This is the time 183 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: to just news dump news, dump news, dump news dump. 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: Lucas drops that he has uh, you know, been discussing 185 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: India with his team, and also. 186 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: You know Gleig. 187 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cash just casually laying the biggest snake in the wild, 188 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: the most power hungry wild person. Just let him know 189 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: in a club. But there was definitely plenty of other 190 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: people who could have over heard. And that's not the if. 191 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: If they if they were not hard of hearing, as 192 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: this older gentleman may have been. You know, I think 193 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: when you are clutching an older man who doesn't want 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: to dance to your chest and making him dance, uh, 195 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: he's probably not listening to f Yeah, someone is not 196 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: going to be on the business details that are kind 197 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: of moving back and forth. Shiv is of course alarmed 198 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: by this, like what. 199 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: The fuck are you talking to? 200 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: We talked to great. 201 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Uh, And Lucas is basically just like, hey, here's a picture. 202 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: What about we just never say anything about the numbers. 203 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: Prompt number two, Rosie, that's the best day to release 204 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: bad news. 205 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: The best day to release bad news. And I say 206 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: this as many years as a journalist and the enertiment business. 207 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: I will tell you the best day to release bad 208 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: news is at like five pm on a Friday night. 209 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: That's the plan, baby, that's what you've got to do. 210 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: If you see a studio announce some news right then oooh, 211 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: they do not want you to see it now. Obviously, 212 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: twenty four our news cycle, internet news cycle is kind 213 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: of different, but that is generally the best rule. Of course, 214 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: Shiv is absolutely right here. It's also great to release 215 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: it within a very busy twenty four our news cycle. 216 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: Matson is very unlikely to become the main character of 217 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: the news here. Nobody's gonna carey, oh, some fluffed up 218 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: numbers like that's just that's normal. That's what tech people do. 219 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: That's not gonna make the news when you have people 220 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: setting mail in vote offices on fire and voting an 221 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: electoral fascist. So ship is not wrong. But if you're 222 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: looking to drop a press release, you want no one 223 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: to see Gopher end of business day Friday. 224 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: I listen. 225 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: It's a great it's it's absolutely a classic. It's tried 226 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: and true. You know, if I say we're we're going 227 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: to be charged with insider trading and bring that up 228 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: for absolutely. 229 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 3: Definitely not gonna happen. Of course, this is why we're 230 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: going to happen. This is why you trade on the outside, 231 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: make the outside money. 232 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: I trade. I'm it's all outside. 233 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: All the trading I do is out doors, outdoors and 234 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: touching grass and trading the same. 235 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Never never, never indoors inside. That's no roof. That is 236 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: almost is the roof, and there is no roof. That's 237 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the limit. What's the limits limit, there's no roof, no ceiling. 238 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: That said. 239 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: I always like to peg bad news to whatever holiday 240 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: is around. 241 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: If there is gonna, says we ken is great too, 242 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: if there's. 243 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: Very If it's calendar dependent, I like to do like 244 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: eleven fifteen pm Eastern on New Year's Eve. 245 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: Well that's great, you know something like that. 246 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Or I wait until someone famous dies, someone famous and beloved, 247 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: and then I just kind of slip it in there. 248 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 249 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really good, in between the o bits and 250 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: the memorials and just kind of like, oh, inside of trading, 251 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: I lost three billion dollars. Bo love that guy. Rest 252 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: in peace. 253 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: This is a big phone call episode. Shiv takes a 254 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: call from Nate. Nate is very, very nervous, but he's 255 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: also feeling hopeful. You know, because of the exit polls, 256 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: we learned that a future him and his administration would 257 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: not have an issue with the Gojo deal. They just 258 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: basically rubber stamp it and let it go, and we 259 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: love that for business. Shiv is promising a new ATN 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: for a new administration. Hey, you know, we're being kind. 261 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna be gentler, We're gonna be better, We're gonna be 262 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: people are gonna love us. It's gonna be great. We're 263 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: gonna be very very very lefty. 264 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Nate is like makes a great point where 265 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: he's like, well, then why aren't you reporting on the 266 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: domestic terrorism that is occurring tonight that we're starting to 267 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: get rumblings off on social media. Someone is attacking voting 268 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: offices where they are counting mail in ballots and that 269 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: what they thought was an electrical fire is actually looks 270 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: like it was vandalism. And she's like, yeah, yeah, of course, 271 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: of course, we're definitely gotta gotta cover that. 272 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know, what is fire? Who are people? 273 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: It's just salomons? 274 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: What what is it? What is a person? Uh? 275 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: How does a person set a fire? Could it be 276 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: an accident? Could Uh, you know, what is a flannel 277 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: of material? These are all questions that we could ask, uh, 278 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: and we will ask, and we'll be asked over the 279 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: course of this episode. Any question, but who set this fire? 280 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: I think it's important to ask. 281 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: Very important my question no one needs to know. 282 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: Ken takes a call from his ex wife Ravah. 283 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: She is panicked, of course. 284 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 285 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: In last episode, we learned that Ken and Roba's daughter, Sophie, 286 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: who is Indian I believe, was pushed by a raven 287 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: head person or a Manken person and they made some 288 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: sort of uh, you know, kind of like racist uttering, 289 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: and so they're already on edge and now there's this 290 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: SUV following them, and Ken is like, oh, that's sorry, 291 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: that's mine. Sorry I put I put private security on 292 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: you and I didn't. I'm sorry I didn't. I should 293 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: have told you, but I didn't mention it. 294 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Ps Uh. 295 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: You know I everything I do, including secretly putting armed 296 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: men on your tail, is because I love you, and 297 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, we're working on making a kinder, gentler world 298 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: for you, my my beautiful daughter Sophie, who I love 299 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: very much. Maybe we'll see Ken then calls Nate to 300 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: get on the line with Candidate Jimenez, and he's like, 301 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, hey, Dan Jimenez, when you win, maybe you 302 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: should look at tech for no apparently no reason. 303 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no reason at all. You know that definitely not 304 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: because you should look at it to kill the Gojo deal, 305 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: Like say, no reason, Just just look at it, Dodgy. 306 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: It's bad, bad things, that huge force, huge force in 307 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: our world, and maybe you should look at it. 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Prop Number three. 309 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: I believe, although I may be wrong, that this is 310 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: the first time that we see candidate Jimenez, certainly this season. 311 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: So this leads me to my next prompt. This is fiction, 312 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: of course, work of fiction, this show that we take 313 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: very seriously. So seriously we've modeled an entire fake show 314 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: after this show. The minimum age for to be president 315 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: is thirty five. But let me ask you this is 316 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: it realistic to elect someone for president who is not 317 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: eighty nine years old? 318 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Rosie? That is the prompt. Look, come on, you got 319 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: to be eighty nine to ninety ninety one, high eighties 320 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: at least president. 321 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: It is part of the American rule, the American law. 322 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: I think in the Constitution it says you've got to 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: be like ten years away from dying or you can't 324 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: be the president. Right. That's like, that's a big part 325 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: of the American rulebook. 326 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: Because you don't want anybody in there who hasn't lived 327 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: a full and I mean full, like right to the edge, 328 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: life like right to the end that candles all the 329 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: way down. You don't want them thinking about just life 330 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: stuff because they've done it. 331 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: They've done it. They're not going to be distracted. They've 332 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: spent many life, they've lived through multiple depressions. They have 333 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: played and manipulated the markets through those depressions and made 334 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: very very, very large amounts of money. And now they're successful. 335 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: They're in their eighties, they're out here, they're being presidents. 336 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: They're not showing up for votes. 337 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: You know, high is they're all, okay, what's your ideal 338 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: age for a president? President elect? 339 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: One hundred and two? 340 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: I like it. 341 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: I also life experience, lived a century. They remember before 342 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: these things existed, like tech. They can go up against tech. 343 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: They say, what's tech? They don't have Facebook. 344 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, with no cybernetic enhancements, no kind 345 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: of cryo tubes, just like a raw dogging life, a 346 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: human being that just lived, uh, you know, without any 347 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: kind of uh special medical technology things to keep them going. 348 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah about one hundred, like one o two, 349 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: one oh three. 350 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: I think so. I think that's the sweet sport. 351 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: That's what everybody wants, so that you can get out 352 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 2: of your second term by like one o eight one 353 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: oh nine and then quietly pass away, you know, happily. 354 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: Rome heads to the Menken lif to meet with the 355 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: Menca Nights. Jared MANCN is pissed that Rome wasn't able 356 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: to deliver Connor dropping out of the race, and mancan 357 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: tells Roman that, you know what, it looks like we're 358 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 2: gonna lose to Night. 359 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: But I like it. I want to lose. 360 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm very focusbut on losing. 361 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm very focused on losing. I think losing is winning. 362 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 2: I think the new winning is losing because when I lose, 363 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: I can throw just dirt on the entire process and say, hey, 364 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: look how rid this entire processes, and that will set 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: me up to win the next time around. 366 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. He wants to destabilize the American government and economy 367 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: so that he can take it when it's vulnerable. Very 368 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: historical precedent for that, don't google who's done that? In 369 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: the past. You don't need to do that, but it 370 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: has been done. It has been done. And I will 371 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: say this is a scene that introduces one of the 372 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: best word word uses this episode that will continue to go. 373 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: He wants Roman to help him with the narrative, and 374 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: you will now hear the word narrative come up in 375 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: every other sentence. Everybody is worried about the narrative. Jared's 376 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: dream narrative is that he was maligned and oppressed and 377 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: pushed to the side because he was the real working 378 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: man's candidate. But obviously that narrative could change, and atn sadly, 379 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: well gladly depending where your stocks are. For everyone has 380 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: a big handle on shaping that narrative. As we will see. 381 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: Back at at and Headquarters, Greg is asking Tom, you know, 382 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: important questions about his role with the company going forward, 383 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: and Tom. 384 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: Is like, where's my fucking coffee? 385 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: Greg? 386 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: And Greg is like, hey, man, I just fired three 387 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: hundred people. 388 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: I don't do coffee anymore. 389 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: It was yeah, it was either one hundred people in 390 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: three days or three hundred people in a day, whatever 391 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: the case may be. 392 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't do coffee anymore. 393 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: And Tom makes a very measured statement, a very measured response. 394 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: Very realistic, relatable. Yes. 395 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: When he says, listen, if you don't get my coffee, 396 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: it's gonna be chaos, and that chaos is gonna spread, 397 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: and that and China's going to invade Taiwan and that 398 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: means world War three and that means the nukes are 399 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: gonna fly, and that means the end of all complex 400 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: life on Earth, And like, do you want to be 401 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: responsible for that because you didn't get my coffee? And 402 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: he's like, well, in that case, if it's that important, 403 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: we should do something a little stronger, No, a little 404 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: more powdery. No, what do you think about that? So 405 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: I think very reasonably, just completely a very completely reasonable 406 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: thing to do. Greg and Tom snorted a little coke 407 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: off the back of their hands behind a whiteboard. 408 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: And Greg has put himself in a terrible situation here 409 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: because Greg did not want to do drugs. 410 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: He didn't want to do Greg didn't want to do 411 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: two nights in a row. 412 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: Wanted he didn't want to get addicted. He hadn't. He 413 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: was like, I might get addicted. Do it two nights 414 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: cine arroo, and he decided that he would have to. 415 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: He got pay pressure by Tom. You know, understandable. But 416 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: I have a prompt for you, Jason. 417 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good good. 418 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: Why is Tom so tired? Why is he so tired? 419 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: Last episode he needed to go to sleep at the party. 420 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: This episode, he needs his coffee or he's gonna fall asleep. 421 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: He so tired, Jason? Why is Tom so tired? 422 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Low t no testosterone. 423 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: He's not taking his ATN, not taking his ATN testosterone pills. 424 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: I think he's got to start taking them. You know, 425 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: there are many products on nugenic I'm sure Nugenics for one, 426 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: I think is one that has come highly recommended, certainly 427 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: by older athletes of an American extraction. Doug Flutie, for example, 428 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: has handled his low te problem through nugenics. Eugenics not 429 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: a sponsor of the Market Moves program. But I'm just 430 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: saying I think Tom should perhaps look into it, or 431 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: like a human growth hormone or some other kind of 432 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: low testosterone. 433 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: Amplified that he should look at it. I think you're right. 434 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: I think it's you're right to flag it because you know, 435 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: maybe the maybe the tea is low. Dad said he 436 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: did father a child recently. He'll get to that, he'll 437 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: find that out. 438 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: He'll find that so, but you know what, for now, 439 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: for now he's got you know, good old toot, he's 440 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: got the cocaine. He's going to keep going. That's going 441 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: to keep him going for now, but it will probably 442 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: make him tired tomorrow. Spoiler warning tom you're going to 443 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: be tired again. 444 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Is that the rule? You can't do it two days 445 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: in a row, so you can you skip a day. 446 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm not get addicted if you do it. I do 447 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: believe that when you go to school in certain states, 448 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: they probably tell you that if you do drugs once 449 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: or twice in a row, you will become addicted. So 450 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: maybe if the books say so, it could be true. 451 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: I don't think Greg needs to worry. That motherfucker is tall. 452 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: I feel like his metabolism is very fast. I think 453 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: he's going to be okay. I was very impressed actually 454 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: by his good point, skilful attempt not to do the 455 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: coke and pretend to do it. It was That was one 456 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: of my old time favorite great moments. It was very good. 457 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: But now they're both on coca and that's obviously gonna 458 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 3: be great for democracy because everyone knows best decisions are 459 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: made while you're on cocaine. 460 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: Connor calls and he harangues Tom about the pro con 461 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: stories that are out there on social media, but they're 462 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: not making it to eighteen. 463 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: There is no con coverage. I have not even seen 464 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 3: Conn's face for the con comment. He says, come on, 465 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 3: give me some sugarman. 466 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Maybe everyone voted for me. You don't know to which 467 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: Willis says Schrodinger's cat. 468 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, until you count the votes, Tom, you don't know. 469 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: One could be president, Connor could be president. You don't know. 470 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: You don't know. Nobody knows. 471 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: Also, we discover in this episode of Counner and I 472 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: think this is a bid to be presidential. 473 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Yes, he is a guy who says, shan't and a last. 474 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: He is Willa understandably once again the people's champion. Will 475 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: are coming through here. She says, fuck Kentucky when they 476 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: discover that con did not win Kentucky, which was one 477 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 3: of the few places they expected him to win, and 478 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: he says, no, Willa, not fuck Kentucky. 479 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: Won't. 480 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: I won't be that person. I shan't become that man. 481 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: He says, alas Kentucky, Willa, alas Kentucky. That doesn't even 482 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: make sense. But I love it because I use the 483 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: lass all the times. You love it, Use a lass, 484 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: It'll make you rich. 485 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: As polls close. 486 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: One of Aten's Steve Kornacky knockoffs has a touch screen malfunction, 487 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: and Tom absolutely now amped to the gills on the 488 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 2: marching powder, reacts like he is coked to the gills 489 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: on the marching powder, and Ken calls while this is 490 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: going on, He's like, what the hell is going on 491 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: with a touch screen? Get that touch green up on. 492 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: Smash your head in like a soft boiled egg. Meanwhile, 493 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: we mentioned Rosie mentioned earlier how there's this been there's 494 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: this robing about a voting center that's been set on 495 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: fire in Wisconsin, a key battleground state. 496 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: And you know, listen it. 497 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: If you want to go by the facts, see if 498 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: you want to be one of those people who just 499 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: goes by the fact. 500 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: Just the facts, that's the question. 501 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: The fast the facts, which is like okay, basic, But 502 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: if you want to be that person, then sure Menken 503 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: Nights did set this voting precinct on fire. It also 504 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: happens to be a heavily democratic h. 505 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: Oh, that's just a coincidence, Just a coincidence. 506 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: Right, Ken, and Shiv want to know why it's not 507 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: being covered. Why aren't we covering this? Tom says, because 508 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: we can't cover it because you think our audience wants 509 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: to hear about how their side is bad. No, they 510 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: want to hear about how their site is good, and 511 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: so we. 512 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: Can't cover this. 513 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: And Roman says, well, why not just say it was anybody? 514 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: Why not just say it was antifile? Why not just say, 515 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, like it was all in. 516 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Communists that that. 517 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: I want to just do that. Why can't we just 518 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: do that? And I you know, that's you know, if 519 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: you want to just go by facts, and what a 520 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: boring life you're gonna lead. I live in a I 521 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: live in a world of pure imagination, Yeah, just like him, 522 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: where everything changes to fit my whims whenever I want. 523 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: And I think it's a much better way. 524 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: To be definitely more fun when to eat some grass 525 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: that's actually little Mimi flakes while you're burning down a 526 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: vote in mail in ballot space? 527 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Do it? 528 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: You could live that well? Pure imagination? 529 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: Now, Uh, there's you know, kind of like a small 530 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: wrinkle with the voting center. Turns out that some ballots 531 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: were lost. 532 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, maybe one hundred thousand, you know, some 533 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: small amount. 534 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: Just some small amount of heavily democratic ballots. 535 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: And this news sets making hq at Jimenez hq uh 536 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: racing to kind of shape the post election fire narrative. 537 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: There's that word again, Narrave. Shive meets with Tom Uh. 538 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: She wants to talk fire and narrative. 539 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: Tom is making smarmy faces at her, and he's threatening 540 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: to blow up her relationship with Mattson. And then he 541 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: accused of of killing her dad. Kind of unhinged but okay, 542 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: and she responds by telling Tom that she's pregnant by him, 543 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: and to which Tom responds, is this a negotiating tactic? 544 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: Prompt number four, Rosie, does Tom believe Shiv? 545 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: I do not believe that Tom, in that moment on 546 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: the Marching Powder regime that he has decided to take 547 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: part in this episode. I do not believe that in 548 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: the moment he believes her. I actually believe that him 549 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: saying is this a negotiating tactic is the most honest response. 550 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 3: Those two are so far gone at this point. I mean, 551 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: he just accused her of killing her own dad, which 552 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: is cruel and also just patinly untrue. No matter how 553 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: stressed out. Logan was they are way past toxic. They've 554 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: gone to you know, sub level atomic bun situation here 555 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: where they're just consistently doing the most terrific shit. I 556 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: truly believe that he does think that though as shit 557 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: walks out of the room, I do believe it begins 558 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: to settle. 559 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is kind of like, oh, did that really happen? 560 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: Now? 561 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: I read it a couple of ways. On the one hand, 562 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: I think that he doesn't believe her. On the other hand, 563 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: I'd think he was also like, well, she might be pregnant, 564 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: but it might not be. 565 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why he. 566 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: Said something mean. I did think that that could also 567 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: be it. The kind of nate of it all, the 568 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: the open relationship of it all, like that is his 569 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: ultimate cruel comeback, because in his mind he thinks it's 570 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: very unlikely that it's his. 571 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: With the ballance burned and the absence te bells not 572 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: yet counted. Mencoln basically calls ATM. He's he's manc in 573 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: HQ is LinkedIn with Roman. Roman is mencn's guy, Mencn's 574 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: ambassador to ATN, and MENCN just wants hey, just like say, 575 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: I won just stop the count and say that we 576 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: won Milwaukee. Shiv realizes because Roman basically says and Ken 577 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: confirms that atn's coverage tonight on the Milwaukee incident, the 578 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: fire and the fallout from the fire, and which way 579 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: that state goes will one hundred thousand, million, billion percent 580 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: be shaped by the perception that a Mancan administration will 581 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: kill the Gojo deal. Period, that's it. They will go 582 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: Mancan because mencol will kill the deal, and that's it, 583 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: and they will make that promise. 584 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: So this is a very interesting and bleak episode is bleak, 585 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: very fucking bleak. But the thing I find most interesting 586 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: is Shiv is in conflict with herself because now she's like, oh, 587 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: I I a fascist to become president because I'm a 588 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: liberal and I believe in all these liberal things. But 589 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: she has done everything along the way to be horribly 590 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: complicit in this. And even I have to say, Kendall, 591 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: I feel like he spends a lot of this episode. 592 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: He's not being big boss material. He is in a 593 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: moral quandary. 594 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: He is in a moral quandary. Well listen, like it's 595 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: all well and good. I think we've all, you know. 596 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: Invitent how the fascist to become president. 597 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, we've you know, it's one thing to invite neo 598 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 2: Nazis and fascists and white nationalists to your party, you know, 599 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: to just come over and have tea and crumpets. 600 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I think we've all done that. 601 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: But it's another thing to have them stay, you know, 602 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: and in your house. And I think Shiv and Ken 603 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: are dealing with the fact that, hey, I just invited 604 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: these guys over for like a little NFL on Sunday, 605 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden they're moving in. 606 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Is that what I want? Maybe it is, I don't know. Uh. 607 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: The ATEN headcore Naki Darwin briefs the Roys and Shiv 608 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: and basically says, like, okay, uh, you can actually look 609 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: at this precinct which burned, and you can look at 610 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: the voter rolls and see all the people who voted. 611 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: And who registered, and you could before and yeah, and 612 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: they're either Democrats or registered as Republicans, and you could 613 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: basically say here's how they would have voted. H. 614 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Ravenhead is on the air. You remember Ravenhead, of course, 615 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: the uh, the ATEN on air talent guy who again 616 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: loves his Red Mind camp a couple of times because 617 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: of the wonderfullyster eggs in there, and it named his 618 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: dog Blondie after some German leaders dog. 619 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: I forget who. 620 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: He's basically on the air saying like, oh, so I 621 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: guess we're you know, like the. 622 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Fire only burned the Democratic votes. 623 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: Now the fires Kiki, and they're gonna tell you who 624 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: to but who voted. And they're not actually gonna count 625 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: the votes. They're just gonna tell you, oh, these people voted, 626 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: and they are gonna take your freedom as American voters. 627 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: And of course it's a masterclass in reflection and shaping 628 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 3: the narrative. 629 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: That's right. 630 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: The pressure is building. Shive corners Greg and threatens to 631 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: flat out threatens to murder him. 632 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: This was interesting because there. 633 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: Was no it was all stick and I'm not even sure, 634 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: like what the what's the pitch? It's just like do 635 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: this or or what? And Greg asks like, okay, what's 636 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: in it for me? And she's like, I won't pull 637 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: your intestines out of your butt. 638 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 3: That is what she says. I mean, I think the 639 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 3: pitches don't tell the boys that I am in bed 640 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: with Matson, which of course he knows because Matson is 641 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: just a fucking blaber. Mouth, but like she did not 642 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: approach this the right way, because shit, Greg is first 643 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: of all broke, second of all an idiot. Fird of all, 644 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: he literally asks her for a bribe. He could have 645 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: just given him like one hundred thousand dollars, which to 646 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: people like us and people like the voice is nothing. 647 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: That's like pocket money to shive, to us, to market 648 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: moves listeners who have invested wisely. She could have just 649 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: thrown him, you know, a little bit, a little bit 650 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: of cash, little bit sweet. And actually Greg probably would 651 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: have stayed quiet just for a little bit longer. 652 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: Roman leans on Tom and Darwin the head Kornaki, to 653 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: call Milwaukee from incoling, let's do it, let's do it. 654 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: Just say it. 655 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: Becaids Wisconsin in his favor. He's gonna get the ten votes. 656 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. 657 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Darwin is like, well, we can't really call 658 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: it because like there's this whole process and it's going 659 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: course and all that. But what we can if we 660 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: kind of couch it as like a pending call. 661 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 3: Can you make a chiron, can you make a graph? 662 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Take a pree call. 663 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: This is punctuated by a Darwin getting Bodego Wasabi in 664 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: his eyes and then Greg pouring lemon Croy into it. Luckily, 665 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: Darwin is able to go on the air and ATM 666 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 2: makes a call. Mancin wins Wisconsin. Ken is kind of unhappy. 667 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: Connor goes on the air and concedes, basically throwing it 668 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: to Mancan and saying, hey, you know it's we lost, 669 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 2: But that Jared Menkin, he's pretty great, isn't he. Yeah, 670 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: And in return for this he will get ambassador to Slovenia. 671 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: Shouts to Luka Doncic and Willa is like, well, you know, 672 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: it's very very sad that the country is going to 673 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: be overrun by Nazis. 674 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, shopping. 675 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: In Vienna, you know, Venice the lunch. Also, Connor does 676 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of a goes off script, does a 677 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of a jazz thing, 678 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 3: does some scatting, threatens the country by telling them the 679 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: conheads are coming. He says, so I'm a billionaire. You'll 680 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: have to find someone else's tee to suck a lot. 681 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: It's a terrible performance and I loved every second of it. 682 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, Cornna. Never see you again when you go 683 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: to Slovenia. You're never coming back. The wory's like keeping 684 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: you that forever. 685 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: So when it becomes clear that Arizona on the up 686 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: and up is gonna go red now at and is Boxington, 687 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: they already called Wisconsin pending, but they called it. 688 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 3: They didn't ever say pending either, like they. 689 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: Just right, they just basically called it. 690 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 3: They called it, And so. 691 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: With aasy basically going Mancoln, that means they have to 692 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: call Mencoln as the winner of the presidential election. 693 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: Roman is slavering at the mountain. 694 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: He's so happy. 695 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: Ken Ken is like, oh, my daughter, hold on a second, 696 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: I have to call a time out. So in private, 697 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: Ken voices his concerns to Roman and for you know, 698 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: democracy and diversity and the safety of his children and 699 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. 700 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: In Romans like fuck it, who can He says that. 701 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: He says, quote, dad's dead in the country is just 702 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: a big pussy waiting get fucked, which brings us to 703 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: prop number five. Has Roman always been this bad? Or 704 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: because Roman's always been bad, Roman's terrible. 705 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: He's fallen off the nihilistic cliff and there is no 706 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: coming back. Multiple times throughout this episode he says nothing matters, 707 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: nothing's real, it's all bullshit, like all we did was 708 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 3: program a good night of TV. It's almost like he 709 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 3: is so depressed and so unhinged and unconnected from reality 710 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: after his dad's death, that this has become like a 711 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: game to him. And I think that as much as 712 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: we know Kendall really wants to run the company by 713 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: himself because he's a little backstab and bitch, I think 714 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: Roman has those designs too, But whereas Kendall wants it 715 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 3: because Kendall sees himself having some grand legacy like his dad, 716 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: I think to Roman it's just about winning a game. 717 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: It's nightmarishly scary to watch Roman this episode. He doesn't 718 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 3: like Menkin. Go back a few episodes, he was calling 719 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: him a Nazi. He just he is lavishing in this 720 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: chaotic kind of fucking moral void. It's incredibly scary to watch. 721 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 2: It was frightening. I don't know if Roman has always 722 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: been this bad, but I do think Roman is the 723 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: type of person who lowers himself to the level of 724 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 2: the people around him. And it feels like, listen, the 725 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: hotline of Jared Mancoln is intoxicating, that kind of like 726 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: has way to power. 727 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you like have. 728 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: The most powerful, potentially person in the world on speed 729 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: dial if you just kind of like push a couple 730 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: of levers here and there. And I think he's really 731 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: fired up about that. And I think that he also 732 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: thinks that, uh, nothing bad. 733 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 1: We're really well. 734 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, a voting place got burned by nazis, okay, 735 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: but stuff burns all the time. This way, we have 736 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: fire departments. Why do fire departments exist because stuff catches fire. 737 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: He's so in his own bubble as well. Politics has 738 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: never affected any of them at the p One of 739 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: the most prescient, brilliant real things about that episode is 740 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: that the party has Republicans, Democrats, all different donors because 741 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: for a lot of people, as we know is true 742 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: in real life, those people are friends. Yeah, those rich 743 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 3: people are friends. They stay close. That's the circles we 744 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: move in here at Market Moose. You know, it doesn't 745 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: matter your political alignment as long as you bow to 746 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: the god of money. And Roman I think has been 747 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 3: so couched in that that he cannot see that mencan 748 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: is not that mencan does not come from that world. 749 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 3: Mencan will likely not play by those rules. And also 750 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 3: I think there is an element of the you know 751 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 3: you talked about Roman. Has he been always been this bad? 752 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: Roman's always been like a troll, and he's enjoyed trolling people, 753 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 3: whether he's trolling Jerry. This is that full blown edge 754 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 3: lord bullshit coming to the forefront of like, oh I 755 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 3: can I can edgeloord Us into having a nightmare President. 756 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 3: He'll call me and he'll ask me what I think. 757 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: All I know is why didn't you know? 758 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 2: Stuff uh bursts into flame every day and I don't 759 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: see anybody caring about it when that happens. 760 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Something's on fire right now? 761 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: How come nobody's it happens every one second and I 762 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 3: was talking about it. 763 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden people care about fire. 764 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: Hyritic Ken goes to shiveh and he says, flat out listen, 765 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: Mancoan is offering to kill the deal, just like unambiguously 766 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: kill it. And he admits that, Hey, I want to 767 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: run the company myself, and I'm a little threatened by 768 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: Roman's relationship with mancoln uh and so I have some 769 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 2: hesitations here and she and Shive goes yeah, And then 770 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 2: hesitation is also because you're a good person. Yeah you 771 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: kill the kid, Yeah, you've done other bad things. The 772 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: taking of a life the worst, but other. 773 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 3: Stuff, many of other bad things. 774 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: But you're good. You're a good person. 775 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 2: And if you'd say, hey, we fucked up the Wisconsin call, 776 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: you can do that, and you can make us do that, 777 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: and we can do that. Now, she does not admit 778 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: that part of the reason that yes, of course she 779 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: loves democracy. Who doesn't, come on, everyone loves It's great pluralism. 780 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: She cares about it. But you know, she is also 781 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: working with Mats and so there is also that angle, 782 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,959 Speaker 2: which she does not reveal at this moment. She gets 783 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: on the phone to see if Jimenez can can maybe 784 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: promise or at least promise to think about killing the deal. 785 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 2: And does she get through? 786 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: Does she not? She doesn't get through. She bluffs. 787 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 3: I think she even I think she called the number 788 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 3: POPO is related to not get through, like. 789 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 790 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because even if she she a man would have answered, 791 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: you're probably right, I would have answered. 792 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 3: Even if she doesn't want to ask Nate, because she 793 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 3: actually knows that in that situation, she might be the 794 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: one who could get Nate to say yes. But she 795 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 3: needs the deal to go through, so she bluffs, and 796 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: I have to say I've been supporting her best season, 797 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: but this is terrible bluff. 798 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: I I let's talk about that. Uh So Shiv bluffs 799 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: and it's a very bad bluff, Like it's obviously. 800 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: She doesn't sell it. 801 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: She doesn't sell it at all. 802 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 3: Doesn't even doesn't even send Nate like a security text 803 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: to be like, just fucking trust me. If Ken cals, 804 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 3: you just go with whatever. 805 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: Like so Ken gets. 806 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: On the horn with Nate and he immediately figures out 807 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: that she bluffed, and so his spider sense now is tingling. 808 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: He goes to Greg and be like, what's going on 809 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: or anything, and this is where he finds out that 810 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: she's been working with Matts and he comes in. 811 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: Greg fed like a piece of fucking paper. 812 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: I just need to say, like. 813 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: Greg is standing just looking Shive in the face through 814 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 3: a plate glass window, selling her the fuck out. But 815 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 3: you know what, Ship should have known as soon as 816 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 3: she should have gone to them and been like, I've 817 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: been playing mats and so I could get all the 818 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: inside of DLS. She did not play this well at all. 819 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 3: This is a cell Shiv moment. I feel like it's 820 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: gone very badly for this episode. 821 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: Sell sell Shive, not an operator, not a person you 822 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: can deal with. Unfortunately, I was thinking of her dad's 823 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: quote to the to the children, all of the children, 824 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: you're not serious people. 825 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not serious. 826 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: She is not a serious person at all. 827 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 3: She's an un serious person. At this point, this was. 828 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: Really bad, shif like, you fucking chuffed it. 829 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: That was awful. So Ken comes in. He says, you're 830 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: working with Matson. She denies it, but she's fucking absolutely caught. 831 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: And now Ken is on the Menka train. Shi is 832 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, pulls out her you know, final like ace 833 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: in the hole, which is like, I guess I'll go public, 834 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: uh and be like, hey, you're all terrible people and 835 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: you did this quick crow over the Gojo deal and 836 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: that's why you made the call. And Ken Roman are like, 837 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: we don't believe you. We don't believe you do that. 838 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: So by MANCN gives a victory speech that is something 839 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: out of an early gear mor del Toro movie, Like 840 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: he looks like he's about to rip off his face 841 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 2: and turn into a demon. 842 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: This is all school fascism. 843 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mancan calls Roman. Ken maybe has a sliver 844 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: of anxiety about the closeness of their relationship. This phone 845 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: call like he's calling my brother. Tom meanwhile is being 846 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: personally attacked for the ATM call, like he is the 847 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: focal point of that call. Shiv gets on the horn 848 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: to Lucas, trying to muster some kind of response to this. 849 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: Lucas is like, holy shit, you guys elected a fascist. Wow, 850 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: And Siv is like, okay, get your head together. We 851 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: need to figure out a way to fuck over our 852 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: brothers and get Manken out of here. And while Ken 853 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 2: tries to go see his family and his daughter, whose 854 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: security is now very much a threat under a a 855 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 2: in a nation ruled by Jered Mancon, but rathers like 856 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: we're sleeping. 857 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: Uh who that is? 858 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: That is the election night in the world of succession, 859 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: and it is a doozy, folks. 860 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 3: It was a doozy, definite doozy. I will say, now, look, 861 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: we said Selshiv, and I do still believe that simply 862 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: just because I think that the only way this ends 863 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 3: at this point is with all of Roy's probably going down. 864 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: But you know, they say, hell, hath no fury like 865 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 3: a woman scorned. What does Shiv know that you, Jason, 866 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 3: the knowledgeable stocks and bonds economic type person, that you 867 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 3: are you had mentioned that you felt like Ken could 868 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 3: be taken down by somebody rat sucking him with the 869 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: you know, whole murder thing, the little thing about the murder. 870 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: The little thing about the murder. 871 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 3: I feel like that has to be the front of 872 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: Shiv's mind when it comes to rap fucking the brothers. 873 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: Is it enough and does it do enough? 874 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 3: Do you? But I'm buying it though with them purposefully 875 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 3: using the news to get a deal killed, you know, 876 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: like those two things together, does that make enough of 877 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 3: a problem to get rid of them, even though ATM 878 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 3: would surely survive. 879 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: I think you. 880 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: I think you do it like like a one two punch. 881 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 2: I think you come out with so much heat on 882 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: this election. I think you come out right away and 883 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 2: you say, my brothers did a handshake deal with Jared 884 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: MANCN that they would call Wisconsin for him, despite the 885 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 2: absence of hundreds of thousands of votes, thousands of votes 886 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 2: that surely would have tilted Democratic, in return for a 887 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: promise from Jared Mancon to lop the head off the 888 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: GOJO deal as soon as he is in the old 889 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: full office. And I think you lead with that, and 890 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 2: I think you let that kind of boil and stew 891 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: for like a week two weeks that go, you know, 892 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 2: kind of wash around the news cycle like two three times, 893 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: and once that is starting to like fade and shrink 894 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: a little bit, then you hit him with oh, by 895 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 2: the way, my. 896 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: Brother killed a guy. Yeah, and he told me about it. 897 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: It was at my wedding and in Italy, you know, 898 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: after he tried to commit suicider before or sometime around then, 899 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 2: he admitted to me and my brother and that he 900 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: did kill a waiter at my wedding. 901 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 902 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 3: I think that that would be a huge hit obviously 903 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 3: for Kendall. I do believe that Kendall and Rome could 904 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 3: be seen on their way out and have the board 905 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 3: do the Gojo deal and then I go out with Greg. 906 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 3: I think when you. 907 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: Go, I think you go for a triple too. 908 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 2: After you let the PS my brother kill the guy 909 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: wash around for a little while, then I think you 910 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 2: maybe ad for a week or two weeks ago. PS, 911 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: my other brother Roman was sending our lead Council of 912 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 2: Waste star Royco Jerry Dick pics for an extended period 913 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: of time and also sent our data dictics at a meeting. 914 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 3: And you know what, I think that Shiv could possibly 915 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: get Jerry on side for that if it meant a 916 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 3: bigger payout for Jerry. I think Jerry is sick of it. Okay, 917 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 3: let me ask you this, what is Tom's fate? Because this, 918 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: to me, I feel like Tom's road is at an end. 919 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 3: This feels like a Shakespearean tragic end to his ladder climbing. 920 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 3: You know, he basically waited for the kids to tell 921 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: him what to do. But here's the one. His face 922 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: is being put all over the actual the liberal news media, 923 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 3: even the right wing media people are saying he called 924 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 3: Wisconsin too early and it is his fault. And not 925 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: only that, but he is in the pocket of Jared Mankin, 926 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 3: and they say, this man knows Jared Mankin. He's an 927 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 3: associate of Jared Mankin. Did Tom's quest for ratings? Did 928 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 3: that set him on the path to ATN execution? Is 929 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 3: he out? 930 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: I think Tom? Well, it depends. 931 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 2: I think Tom is out. I think his career is 932 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 2: going to be essentially over. He is the face of this. Yeah, 933 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: Ken and Rome are going to moon walk away from this. 934 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: They're not going to take the blame for it. It's 935 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: going to be all about Tom and that narrative is 936 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: already taking shape, and I think as a result of this, 937 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 2: Tom is going to find himself as like the you know, 938 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 2: the CEO or the head of programming at like whatever. 939 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 2: The Succession Universe version of the Blaze. 940 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,439 Speaker 3: Is yes, yes, yes, yes, some. 941 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 2: Right wing YouTube channel they were kind of like yeah 942 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 2: for like a low six figure salary. That is going 943 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: to make him very, very miserable and unhappy because he's 944 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 2: working with people like who don't drink wine? 945 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: Okay, And I do feel like obviously this episode in Succession, 946 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 3: as we said, feels very rooted in reality. But the 947 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 3: last question I have for you is like, how far 948 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: so we know Kendall drops it at the end of 949 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: the episode when he's on the phone to Rava. Next 950 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 3: week is the funeral, so we know that's no longer 951 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 3: going to be the finale. How far do you think 952 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: that we see the nightmarish Nazi ramifications of menking go 953 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 3: in that final episode. Do you think it's going to 954 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: like jump a shark potentially or do you think it's 955 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 3: going to be more like ominous kind of ripple effect? 956 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 3: Where do you see that going? 957 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 2: I think we don't get too much more of it. Honestly, 958 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: I think when we leave this story, the election is 959 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: still going to be being litigated in the courts, but 960 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: that ultimately it will be Jimenez and but that we 961 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: don't go too much deeper on it. It'll just be 962 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 2: about these people. 963 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: What do you think? 964 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I think one of the 965 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 3: smartest things about Succession is they spent you know, four 966 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 3: seas and basically saying, look at how stupid these people are, 967 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 3: look at all the terrible mistakes they made, and look 968 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 3: at how rich they are, and don't worry though, because 969 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 3: they're just rich and they just really only affect their 970 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 3: own world. And I think it's an incredibly smart move 971 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 3: that at the end they were like, oh, but now 972 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 3: they are directly impacting you and your lives and who 973 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 3: is president, and however you feel about that, positive or negative, 974 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 3: that is what is happening. I mean, we see that 975 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 3: the three siblings essentially choose the outcome of American democracy, 976 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 3: and I just think that in itself is the bleakest 977 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 3: statement that the show has to make. So I agree 978 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 3: with you. I think that we get the funeral. I 979 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 3: think the finale's probably gonna deal with whether or not 980 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 3: the Gojo sale goes through, and I think we leave 981 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 3: the world in a kind of bleak state of Oh, 982 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 3: look what the Roys did. 983 00:52:51,280 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 6: Up next Yellow Jaggets, We're stepping out of the airlock 984 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 6: and into the wild wilderness of Yellow Jackets Season two, 985 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 6: episode seven. 986 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 3: If you thought succession was bleak, Oh baby, are you ready? 987 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 3: It's an intense time in the forest once again in Burial, 988 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 3: directed by Anya Adams and written by Rich Monahan and 989 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 3: Liz Fang. It's a depressing time in the snowy wilds, 990 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 3: which we are instantly alerted to thanks to the famous 991 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 3: Batman soundtrack hit Something in the Way by Nirvana. The 992 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 3: girls are still mourning shorn as baby, and the fact 993 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 3: that they are absolutely snowed in, like snow to the 994 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 3: windows snowed in is not helping their spirits. But Lotty notices, 995 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 3: was it magic? We don't know? It's seven episodes seven 996 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 3: and season two. We don't know what's going on? Lotty notices. 997 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: The snow is stopped, and suddenly the girls are inspired 998 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 3: to dream of and survival. They begin to dig themselves out, 999 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: and in a move that will surely relieve many viewers, 1000 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 3: Shawna secretly buries her baby under some rocks, making a 1001 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 3: little baby too, substantially lessening the chance that they will 1002 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 3: eat the baby. I feel she's keeping it away from them. 1003 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 3: The baby eating odds are going down. 1004 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: Can you come let me ask you this. 1005 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of obviously there's been a lot 1006 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: of conjecture that they might eat the baby. 1007 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: Can you It feels like one of those can they 1008 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: come back from this? 1009 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 2: Like? Do you do you burn these characters if they 1010 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 2: eat the baby. 1011 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: I think that is why they did the dream sequence 1012 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 3: eating the baby. 1013 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1014 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 3: I think because you got that horrific visceral shock and 1015 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 3: then the reveal that it wasn't real. Because I don't 1016 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 3: think you can come back now. If they did do it, 1017 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 3: they wouldn't have killed the baby because the baby did 1018 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 3: die naturally, it seems. But I do agree. I think 1019 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 3: that Shawna's put in her little thur baby package and 1020 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 3: she's putting it under some stones. It's a very moving moment. 1021 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 3: She does it where no one else can see. I 1022 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 3: think we can for now probably say that I think 1023 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 3: baby eating is off the table, because I think you're right, 1024 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 3: these are characters people have grown to love. We see 1025 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 3: them in the adult timeline, and you are meant to 1026 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: care about them and care about their journey, and I 1027 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 3: think that could be quite hard to come back from. 1028 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 3: As you point out, Shanna is not the only one 1029 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 3: who is horribly impacted by the death of the baby. 1030 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 3: It's clear that it's affecting all the girls, but none 1031 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 3: more so than ty and Van. Tye kind of cries 1032 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: to Van and says, hey, I really thought the baby 1033 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 3: was going to survive. I thought this was something positive 1034 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 3: for us, and Van brings up a very good point, 1035 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 3: which also the showruners have talked about quite extensively. What 1036 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 3: if the baby had survived. What would you do with 1037 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 3: a baby? They're all starving, they don't have any food. 1038 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 3: Shauna couldn't breastfeed because she's starving, and it's just another 1039 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 3: mouth to feed. It seems quite bleak from Van, who 1040 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: is a bit of a spiritual Lottie follower, But we 1041 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 3: learn here and I feel like this is probably gonna 1042 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 3: be really big going into the next couple of episodes. 1043 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 3: Van reveals that she no longer sees her constant gay immortality, 1044 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: you know, getting eaten by a wolf, surviving surviving a 1045 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 3: plane crash where she should have died and also surviving 1046 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 3: her not dead body being burnt after she was eaten 1047 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 3: by a wolf. She used to feel like that meant something, 1048 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 3: that she was here for a reason, and Ty's like, 1049 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 3: you are here for a reason, I promise you, like 1050 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 3: you can do it. But Van is on the nihilistic 1051 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 3: train to nowhere, questioning her place in the world and 1052 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 3: the wilderness and wondering why the fuck she's still alive, 1053 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 3: And honestly, I feel like it's a very relatable position. 1054 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 2: It really felt like Van has done a lot of 1055 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 2: living and learning. She's probably done the most evolving of 1056 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 2: any of the characters that we've seen, and that's why 1057 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 2: it's both fascinating and I think a good development for 1058 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 2: Tie that kind of see them discovering the chemistry. 1059 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: A little bit over the course of this episode. 1060 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and they are rediscovering it at Camp Green Pine, 1061 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 3: Lottie's wellness cult, I mean wellness retreat and the Stages is. 1062 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: An intentional They're an intentional. 1063 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 3: Intentional community. Apologies apologies don't suit me. An intentional community. 1064 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 3: And guess what, that community has new members because every 1065 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 3: adult survivor from the core group is there. Lotty is there, 1066 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 3: of course, she's running it. Natalie's there, of course, she's 1067 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 3: basically joined the cult. I think she's playing a long game, 1068 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 3: but it's unclear. Misty turned up to save Natalie. She's 1069 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 3: been there twenty four hours and she is all in. 1070 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 3: She seems to love the cult. Van Tie and Shawna 1071 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 3: all recently arrived. So you have a little bit of 1072 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 3: an unsanctioned Yellow Jackets reunion, and Lotty's not going to 1073 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 3: waste this opportunity. Lot He's like, you're here, let's pick 1074 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 3: some activities. It's like summer camp, but people probably don't 1075 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 3: have to give up all their worldly belongings to join 1076 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 3: a summer camp. Shawna picks self care. She thinks it 1077 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 3: means spars and you know, painting your toenails, but it 1078 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: actually means that she's gonna have to look after a 1079 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 3: very cute baby goat named Bruce. 1080 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: She gets into it, She gets very into it. 1081 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 3: And I have to say, this is one of my 1082 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 3: this is such good writing. But Shawna is just absolutely 1083 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 3: fucking sure that she's gonna have to kill the goat. Yes, 1084 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 3: and everybody is like nobody says it, Like nobody ever 1085 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 3: says it. But she's convinced that she's gonna have to 1086 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 3: look after this goat, grow close to it, and then 1087 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 3: have it die. And I think we can understand where 1088 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 3: that fear is coming from. Tye selects the creepily named Renewal, 1089 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 3: which leads her to painting a cabin with a makeup brush. 1090 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 3: It's very mister Meagi, very karate kid. Van chooses foraging, 1091 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 3: but Van's also like, fuck you, I'm just going to 1092 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 3: forage some whiskey out of my car. Like I'm not 1093 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 3: doing this shit. 1094 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: Not doing this. I don't have a lot of time left. 1095 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to that exactly. 1096 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I gotta make the most of 1097 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 3: what I got. Ye Misty gets left with guidance, sending 1098 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 3: her to an isolation tank, which she is less than 1099 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 3: happy to experience, but where she almoratedly treats viewers to 1100 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: a season best sequence that has to be seen to 1101 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 3: be believed. But we will get to that in a 1102 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 3: little while. In a wilderness, coach Ben oh man, he's 1103 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 3: still struggling. I love this is such a cool way 1104 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: to kind of I think we're going to be ending 1105 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 3: this part of his disassociation storyline here, but he gets 1106 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 3: he hallucinates getting a call from his ex boyfriend or 1107 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 3: his boyfriend who is still you know, not in the wilderness. 1108 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 3: But this time we see his boyfriend in the cabin, 1109 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 3: and Ben is just fully invested in this fantasy, in 1110 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 3: this delusion. He talks to him, he wants to know, 1111 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 3: and the boyfriend's like, no, it's over. You've got to leave. 1112 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 3: We can't do this anymore. And Ben kind of screams 1113 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 3: after him into the forest and all the girls look 1114 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: at him, like, who the fuck is Paul, Who are 1115 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 3: you talking to? And Ben's kind of like, oh, don't worry, 1116 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm all good man, I'm doing good. I'm doing okay, 1117 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 3: And he kind of has a creepy smile on his face, 1118 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: which doesn't bode well. No, Misty is digging out the 1119 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 3: cabin and she overhears Aquila, Marie, and Jen celebrating her 1120 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 3: aptitude at Shawna's birth. Yay love to hear a compliment, 1121 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 3: but quickly she also hears Maray reveal that she thinks 1122 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Misty is more psychotic than ever, and I have to say, 1123 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,919 Speaker 3: Maray is not wrong. Mary suggests that Misty actually did 1124 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 3: something to Crystal, perhaps killed her. 1125 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, what we say on this program, we 1126 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 2: were right. 1127 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 3: Mari was right Mary. 1128 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 5: But Misty, being that you know, delightful and always innovative 1129 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 5: sociopath that she is, uses this intel to manipulate the 1130 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 5: crew by suggesting that they should all go and look 1131 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 5: for her dead friend Crystal, which. 1132 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Kind of wins a keeler over to the side and Marie, 1133 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't think she's believing it. So this episode, if 1134 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 3: you have ever wondered about the rules of Yellow Jacket's cannibalism, 1135 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: which of course is a large part of the mystery 1136 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 3: of the show, we start to get hints here about 1137 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 3: how that part of the wilderness culture is going to 1138 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 3: be shaped, because Lotti does a little speech about the 1139 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 3: wilderness when Misty suggests going to find Crystal, and it 1140 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 3: comes out that Lotty basically believes that Shawna's baby was 1141 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 3: a sacrifice that allowed Shawna to live. If you remember 1142 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 3: the girls said Marie specifically tactless as ever when Shawna 1143 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: was in labor, said Wilderness, I hope Shawna doesn't die. 1144 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 3: And Lotti seems to have put two and two together 1145 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 3: and made a supernatural five and decided that the reason 1146 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 3: the baby died was the wilderness taking that so Shawna 1147 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,959 Speaker 3: could live. And I think that that hints quite likely 1148 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 3: that we could the killings that we see, you know, 1149 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 3: that opening sequence that kind of got the Internet talking 1150 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 3: in that first ever episode of the show, we might 1151 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: be in a situation where those killings are sacrifices to 1152 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,959 Speaker 3: appease the worldness or to get something that they want. 1153 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 3: And I think something really we get something really interesting here, 1154 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 3: which is some of the JV squad, like Jen and 1155 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 3: like a couple of other girls who are like very 1156 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 3: not in the center of the story. They're like, oh, well, 1157 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 3: you know, if Crystal, if she's missing, if she's dead, 1158 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 3: like what if we just hate her? And they are 1159 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 3: incredibly chill about it. They're like, could be a nice stack, 1160 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 3: like not saying it. 1161 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 2: I mean once you eat one person, and that was 1162 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: a person that you like, liked, who was one of 1163 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 2: the most popular. 1164 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Well not well popular, but she was like the queen Bee. 1165 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: It was one. Yeah, it was like a main mover 1166 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and shaker in this group, Chris the weirdo. Nobody even 1167 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: knew that. Don't eveny know Chrystal exactly. 1168 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 3: Really, That's what I'm saying. And then like you know, 1169 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 3: not saying I hope she's not saying. I hope she's dead, 1170 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 3: but like if she if she was, it would be 1171 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 3: like a waste. 1172 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: I hope right, if she was dead, I hope that 1173 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 2: the rich and nutritious areas for body are still worth eating. 1174 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that we could have another delicious little 1175 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: group barbecue, little little fun delusion for full tommies. But 1176 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 3: Misty is not gonna let anyone eat her friend. She's 1177 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 3: not having it. She goes out to search for Crystal, 1178 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 3: who she's pretending is still alive, with Mari and Aequila 1179 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 3: and does little Meryl Streep style performance. She cries, oh, 1180 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: I can't do this, it's so hard. She's channeling her 1181 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 3: best Steel Magnolias, and she sneaks off to find Crystal 1182 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 3: before her teammates. Now she says, Crystal, I'm not gonna 1183 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 3: let them eat you. But I think she really just 1184 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 3: doesn't want them to find the dead body, because yeah, 1185 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 3: then they will probably know she did kill her. Interestingly, 1186 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 3: she doesn't find Crystal's body at the bottom of the 1187 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 3: cliff where Crystal fell to her untimely death. You mentioned, 1188 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 3: does anyone really know Crystal? Let's talk about this. Yes, 1189 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 3: was Crystal real? Did Crystal exist? 1190 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 2: I think Crystal existed, but I also think her quote 1191 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 2: unquote death. Uh, you know, it might be a Horvey situation. 1192 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 3: It might be, you know, like something odd going on that. 1193 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: There is something there's a lot of in this episode 1194 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: and previous episodes, but definitely overtly in this episode we 1195 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: will get to the big one, the big we will 1196 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: write there is a lot of people seeing things, having 1197 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 2: full conversations that did not happen. 1198 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember from the very first time Crystal 1199 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 3: showed up and this season and she was singing, and 1200 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 3: she was out there in the backyard with Misty, it 1201 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 3: seemed like a lot of their interactions were happening with 1202 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 3: no one else around. Now people were saying, oh, we'll 1203 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 3: look for Crystal, We'll look for your friend, you know. 1204 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: So the assumption is there was a person called Crystal 1205 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 3: who was in yellow jackets and people seemed to be 1206 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 3: aware of her existence. But the Crystal that we know 1207 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 3: who was Misty's best friend, who Misty killed, it's becoming 1208 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 3: more and more unclear whether that version of Crystal ever 1209 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 3: really existed, and the fact that Crystal's body isn't there 1210 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 3: maybe Harvey's mysterious friend took it. Maybe somebody already found 1211 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 3: it to eat it. Maybe a moose ate it. I 1212 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 3: don't know, but the fact it's not there is very suspicious, 1213 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 3: and I think we'll likely come into play in these 1214 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 3: next two episodes. 1215 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 2: Misty does still never exist. It is interesting, it is, right, Yeah, 1216 01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 2: it's interesting. 1217 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because there is a distinct lack 1218 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 3: of interest in finding Crystal, and there is when you 1219 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 3: go back and watch the episodes, Crystal rarely ever interacts 1220 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 3: with anyone, if ever, when Misty isn't there. So I'm 1221 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 3: just very interested in what that relationship really looks like 1222 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 3: and how Crystal plays into kind of Misty's ongoing journey 1223 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 3: and obviously like deep troubles and struggles with her mental health. 1224 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 3: So she does not find Crystal's dead body, but she 1225 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 3: does find Coach Ben and he's very creepy and calm, 1226 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 3: and he shaved off his beard and he's about to 1227 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 3: throw himself off a cliff. Yes, he's just like I'm done. 1228 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Now. 1229 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,440 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this is similar to the Crystal lines. 1230 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Is this did he really shave off his beard or 1231 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 2: or is this he was notably having a hallucination, a 1232 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 2: conversation with his partner, and it seemed, at least I 1233 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: read it as the shaving was like a reaction to 1234 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 2: either that conversation or. 1235 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Some version of. 1236 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Him has now intersected with this forest reality. 1237 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1238 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely some kind of strange acceptance that Ben 1239 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 3: has come to here that seems to be connected to 1240 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 3: his past disassociation delusions and the forest. And it's also 1241 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 3: unclear whether he sees this as committing suicide, like he 1242 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: seems very calm about it. He seems like he knows 1243 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 3: what he has to do. And it is a very 1244 01:07:53,880 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 3: interesting interaction because for once, Misty does not kill someone. 1245 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 3: In fact, he actually asks her to kill him. He says, Missy, 1246 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 3: couldn't you just push me off the edge like. 1247 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 2: You've done so many times in the year person who 1248 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 2: kills people? 1249 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 3: Couldn't you just do that? 1250 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Please? 1251 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 3: And Misty actually have to say in once again we 1252 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 3: are Misty defenders here she uses her evil powers for good. 1253 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 3: She tells him, I'm gonna tell everyone that you were 1254 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 3: like creepy, that you were impregnated. Sure not, She's like 1255 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 3: she's trying, She's like, don't kill yourself, because then I 1256 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,639 Speaker 3: will control the narrative. 1257 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I will control the narrative. 1258 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 3: And she's like, and I'm gonna tell everyone you're gay, 1259 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 3: and that one He's actually like, i'd like you to do. 1260 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: That, Please do it. 1261 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 3: He knows in his heart that that was the one 1262 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 3: fuck up that he had made in his past he 1263 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 3: wished he could change, was that he didn't get to 1264 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 3: live out with his partner. But you know what, in 1265 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 3: the end, a non Merril Street performance. I do believe 1266 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Misty was quite upset. Misty breaks down into tears and 1267 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 3: Coach Ben is like, actually, I'm not gonna kill myself, 1268 01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 3: shocking you. 1269 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. 1270 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was a Misty fan. But you 1271 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 3: know what, I think maybe we're seeing him come up 1272 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 3: out of the depths of despair he has been in 1273 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 3: and start to try and be a little bit more 1274 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 3: active in the cannibal cabin community, which I know has 1275 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 3: been hard for him. Yes it has, it's been hard, 1276 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 3: but this was also I will say, Missy's very lucky 1277 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: that this happened, because she absolutely would have got blamed 1278 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 3: for that murder even if she didn't do it. 1279 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: Here's the thing you can't be around listen If you're 1280 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: around one dead body, it's an you know it happened, 1281 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: she felt, it's an accident. If you're around two, now 1282 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the hard questions. 1283 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Start, and the second one is somebody you already poisoned, 1284 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 3: you already tried, lest we not forget. 1285 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:51,839 Speaker 2: I think at that point, uh, you know, the the 1286 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt evaporates quite quickly. Yeah, X ray 1287 01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 2: vision will be back, and we're back. 1288 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,719 Speaker 3: At Camp green Pine. Misty and Shawna have a little 1289 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 3: argument after Shawna tries to judge Misty about her panchan't 1290 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 3: for killing, and Misty rightfully points out that Shawna is 1291 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,719 Speaker 3: also a murderer and not just that. But Shawna wouldn't 1292 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 3: have even gotten away with it if it wasn't for Misty. 1293 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 3: Shanna says, Misty doesn't take killing seriously. But Misty's like, actually, 1294 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 3: I was the only one who took your murder seriously enough. 1295 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: That's right. And thank you? Yeah I didn't get a 1296 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:33,600 Speaker 1: thank you? 1297 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, where's my thank you? You never even thank me, 1298 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 3: You were never grateful for it. That's bad. It's classy 1299 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 3: Misty home truth. But yeah, can Misty face some home 1300 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,799 Speaker 3: truth of her own? Before we get to that Shawna 1301 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 3: tells Lottie, I'm not going to kill the goat and not. 1302 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,640 Speaker 3: He's like, bro, nobody said you have to kill it. 1303 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 3: Just look after the goat. The goat is innocent. If 1304 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 3: you look after the goat, maybe you start to look 1305 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 3: after yourself better. And this leads to like a massive 1306 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 3: revelation for Shaana where she kind of cries and Melanie Lynsky, 1307 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,759 Speaker 3: Melanie Lynsky's at a high level, giving a great performance. 1308 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 3: Shauna basically just says, I've always kept Cally at arm's 1309 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 3: length because I thought she would die or I'd find 1310 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 3: out she wasn't even real, yeah, which is obviously exactly 1311 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 3: what happened to Shana in the forest. So it sounds 1312 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 3: like that trauma of the wilderness is really fucking her up. 1313 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 3: And I want to say, we always say it about Ty, 1314 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 3: but I'm saying it to you, Shauna, get some help, 1315 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 3: not just go to a therapist. Like that's very sad, 1316 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 3: and I wish that you and Callie can find a good, 1317 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 3: non in prison way of bonding before this all ends. 1318 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 3: Everyone's having great foods at Camp Green Pine Misty heads 1319 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,799 Speaker 3: into the isolation tank, and I really love this because 1320 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 3: Misty is like terrified to face herself. She is sure 1321 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 3: that she is going to have a nightmarish time in 1322 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 3: the isolation tank, that she's gonna see all the terrible 1323 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 3: murders she's committed, or you know, have to deal with 1324 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 3: all the awful things that she's done. But instead she 1325 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 3: just enjoys a magnificent musical vision which features Walter dancing 1326 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 3: in a top hat a human version of her pet 1327 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 3: parrot Caligular. She's standing in front of like a very 1328 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 3: Twin Peaks lodge red curve. 1329 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: It was like big Lebowski. 1330 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:31,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, dream Sequence meets Twin Peaks meets meets Altered States. 1331 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 3: And the only thing that even hints towards Misty's past 1332 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 3: is you get this really great illustration of the plane 1333 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 3: recorder that she smashed. You get a little syringe from 1334 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 3: all the people she's murdered driving through. But you know what, 1335 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 3: she's having a great time. She's laughing, Walter is doing 1336 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 3: a great little dance routine. And then you see Walter 1337 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,600 Speaker 3: pull out a Garfield phone iconic. I still want one 1338 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 3: of those. I wanted when ever since I was a kid, 1339 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 3: And as the Internet so wonder Flea deciphered he writes 1340 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 3: in morse code as he is dialing, and you see 1341 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 3: it come up on the screen. I love you backwards. 1342 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 3: Thank you to those Internet sitters and detectives who found 1343 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 3: that out for us. Hilariously, Misty's only takeaway from her 1344 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 3: isolation is that Water loves her. She loves Walter, and 1345 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 3: they're gonna be like happily ever after together. So she 1346 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 3: calls him and tries to make up. Walter does not answer, 1347 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 3: but she leaves a very unhinged voicemail, which I loved. 1348 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,600 Speaker 3: She even does a fake no you hang up, No, 1349 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 3: you hang up, she admits to Adam's murder over the phone. 1350 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 6: Cool. 1351 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,560 Speaker 3: She's like, you know that thing you said? It's true. 1352 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 3: But will Walter get her message? We don't know because 1353 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: he didn't pick up. But you know what, it's not 1354 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 3: the only romance going down. Van and Tie they find 1355 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 3: each other in the candle lit groves of camp Pine. 1356 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 3: Why who put out all those candles in the woods? 1357 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 3: Seems dangerous, but you know what, it's romantic and they 1358 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 3: share an illicit kiss. Tis like it's going to be 1359 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 3: a long time so I can be in this and 1360 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 3: Van's like, bro, I can't wait for you literally. 1361 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 2: We don't don't have that, don't have waiting a few times, Sorry, don't. 1362 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I've got it. 1363 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 3: I've got cancer. And it's not one of those good 1364 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 3: kinds of cancer where people are like, oh, it's so 1365 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 3: lucky you got this kind or oh we caught it 1366 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 3: just in time. No, remember how my mom died of cancer? 1367 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 3: Well now I got it and I got like months 1368 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 3: to live. And Tie is upset and I wants to 1369 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 3: know why she didn't call. But let's be real, it's 1370 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 3: because Tie sucks. But tis a terrible friend as adult, 1371 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 3: just not doing well. 1372 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 1: Let's not forget the whole thing. 1373 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 3: Ty's wife is currently in hospital in a coma. Where 1374 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 3: is her son who? 1375 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 1: By the way, Tie put her in that coma. 1376 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 3: I put her in a coma. 1377 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 2: That's right, She's in a coma of ties making. And 1378 01:14:54,640 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 2: now Tie is off somewhere rekindling the the romance, her 1379 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 2: high school romance shockaches while her her partner, her legal partner, 1380 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: cole parent, lies in a coma that she put her in. 1381 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 2: Terrible stuff, terrible, heart warming scene. 1382 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 3: Heart warming scene, a terrible scene. So yeah, Lotti also 1383 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 3: has a breakthrough, and I want to say, this is 1384 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 3: a big we were right moment. Jason absolutely called this 1385 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 3: like what work last week? And Lotty's breakthrough is a 1386 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 3: terrifying one because Lotti is sitting with her therapist, who 1387 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 3: we mentioned seemed a little bit of us and as 1388 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 3: Jason pointed out, we learned this episode that she is 1389 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 3: not real. She gives her some very bad advice. We 1390 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 3: see her saying things to her like, is there anything 1391 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 3: of value in this life that doesn't come with risk? Lotti? 1392 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 3: She says, Lotti, what does self repression ever give us? Like, 1393 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 3: maybe the reason you want to see these women is 1394 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 3: because the feral part of you is and what he 1395 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 3: starts to suspect that something is up and then dun't 1396 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 3: dunt dune. The therapist transforms into the ant La Queen, 1397 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 3: who has been a rare sight this last two seasons, 1398 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,560 Speaker 3: and she says, does a hunt that has no violence 1399 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 3: feed anyone? Before disappearing. So is this just a straight 1400 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 3: Lotty hallucination or is she being like manipulated by the 1401 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 3: wilderness and the Antler Queen into this kind of magical 1402 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 3: thinking about the girls and having them all there at 1403 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Camp Green Pine. 1404 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's some version of the latter. Obviously, 1405 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't think we I think we're circling around it. Yeah, 1406 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: but I think it's pretty clear that whatever it is 1407 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 2: is coming from the outside and it's you know, there 1408 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 2: was a time listeners will remember not that long or 1409 01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 2: we were pretty sure Lottie was behind in some former 1410 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 2: fashion moving this kind of stuff forward. But it's very 1411 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 2: clear that she is a victim of this like everybody else. 1412 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. I will also say they said something interesting, which 1413 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 1: is that they seem to suggest that nobody really really 1414 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 1: remembers what happened exactly. 1415 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 3: That's about I was gonna I have a big so 1416 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 3: in an extremely bad friend move in my opinion. Van 1417 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 3: brings her bottle of boos to the sharing lord, and 1418 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 3: it seems very fair. It seems like they all try 1419 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 3: and encourage Natalie to drink, though I will say I 1420 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 3: think Natalie says no, so good for you, Natalie, But 1421 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 3: I was I was feeling mad about that. I didn't 1422 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 3: feel like that. Yes, I was like drinking and started showing 1423 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 3: her like it was. 1424 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 2: It was bad and then she's like, I have very 1425 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 2: serious addiction issues. 1426 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh why don't you have a drink? 1427 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? And Sean is like, oh, you aren't you a fuck? Up, 1428 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 3: like how you can't be telling us this, And I'm like, bro, 1429 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 3: you are bad friends. Like I'm not surprising Natalie ended 1430 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 3: up so fucked up. But Lottie, I will say in 1431 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 3: a rare responsible moments, and she's like, you gotta leave, 1432 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,080 Speaker 3: like none of this is real, Like I'm hallucinating. But 1433 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 3: they're just like, now we're wasted. We want to get wasted. 1434 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 3: We want to have fun and drink and dance and 1435 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 3: just enjoy our life. And in an unbelievable moment which 1436 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 3: I actually had to watch, I had to rewind it 1437 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 3: to really check that they did this. But Misty almost 1438 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 3: kills the vibe by referencing the crash as you know 1439 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 3: that first summer. 1440 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 2: It was so funny, like a summer camp thing, right, 1441 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 2: and everyone's. 1442 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 3: Like what the fuck? Like no, and also like first summer, 1443 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, did that happen to you? Again? Like what happened? 1444 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 3: But it does lead to that very big revelation that 1445 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 3: you were mentioning about when Nat asks everyone like how 1446 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 3: much do you actually remember about being there? And it 1447 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 3: seems like they don't really remember very much about being 1448 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 3: in the woods. 1449 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 2: Now this is a this is mind blowing to me. 1450 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 2: Because I always perceive the flashbacks as remembers. 1451 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Yes, it feels like we and the way that the 1452 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 3: narrative has been structured and edited, we often learn things 1453 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 3: that feel very relevant to where the characters are in 1454 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 3: the modern day. So the fact that they sort of say, oh, 1455 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 3: for me, it's blurry or like I repressed it, and 1456 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 3: you know, Ty says, it feels like things have just 1457 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 3: been completely pulled out of her brain. That's very supernatural, 1458 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 3: leaning to be. 1459 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 2: Yes, s same here, which leads me, I guess these 1460 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 2: are just I mean again, I always thought that the 1461 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 2: flashbacks were their memories, but clearly they're not, and so 1462 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 2: I think we can take them. On the one hand, 1463 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,719 Speaker 2: I think that the upside is we can take those 1464 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 2: a lot more seriously. 1465 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,480 Speaker 3: A little bit more objective rather than unreliable narrators. But interestingly, 1466 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 3: also especially heading into the end of this season, then 1467 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 3: what will be season three whenever the writers strike is over. 1468 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,879 Speaker 3: Who is showing them to us? And what is the purpose? 1469 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 3: How do these women try and navigate their lives with 1470 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 3: these memories of all the terrible things they did as girls? 1471 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 3: And Shawna does have the journals, and Shawna definitely knows 1472 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 3: a little bit more because she talks a lot about 1473 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 3: shame and the terrible things they did. But Natalie, Antie 1474 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 3: and Lotti, they all basically say that they don't really 1475 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:28,799 Speaker 3: remember anything. 1476 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I kind of related to this. 1477 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 2: I've been wondering if the Antler queen is not any 1478 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 2: one of them is a different entity altogether. Now, it 1479 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 2: might be a alter ego of Lotties. I think that 1480 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 2: that is. 1481 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 1: In that's in play. 1482 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 3: Or even an all ego of Ties. You know, we 1483 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 3: know Nighttime Tie is like a separate personality that. 1484 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: Is in the cards. 1485 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 2: But I also wonder if it's not a complete separate 1486 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: entity altogether. Yeah, And I am also wondering if, as 1487 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 2: with Tie, they are all kind of in various ways 1488 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 2: wrestling with their alter with their evil alter views. You know, 1489 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 2: obviously Tie is the one that's you know, most obviously 1490 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 2: in that kind of conflict, But I do wonder if 1491 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 2: the rest of them aren't having that kind of struggle, 1492 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 2: but just not perceiving it as a completely binary, different 1493 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 2: person that's inhabiting their body. 1494 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 3: No, I definitely could see that. I think that's something 1495 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 3: really interesting there, especially because of that theory we were 1496 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 3: talking about last week. About like the girls needing to 1497 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 3: come back together again to kind of like get rid 1498 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,600 Speaker 3: of whatever, the dark thing that they brought back. That 1499 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 3: could definitely just be like a different part of that 1500 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 3: personality that they had to repress. And also I think 1501 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 3: that that and like Queen being a different person is 1502 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 3: actually really interesting because in the episode five, where at 1503 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 3: the end we see Natalie's vision where they're in the 1504 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 3: plane and she sees the the Antler Queen lift up 1505 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 3: the veil from pausing, that people discovered that she saw 1506 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 3: herself as the Antler Queen. I don't think Natalie's Antler Queen, 1507 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 3: but I do think that Antler Queen represents a role 1508 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 3: that maybe they played at different points. Maybe they all 1509 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 3: took that on, maybe that was something they did. Or 1510 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 3: as you said, could we know that Harvey had a 1511 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,839 Speaker 3: friend who told him not to return to the camp. 1512 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 3: That could be the Antler Quin. She could be the 1513 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 3: one who runs those woods. You could be in a 1514 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,799 Speaker 3: much more simple Witch style series. But I will say 1515 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 3: the end of this episode I think leans into one 1516 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 3: of our big really out their tin FOI hat theories, 1517 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,120 Speaker 3: which is the like parallel timeline theory where things are 1518 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 3: happening at the same time. So the girls are talking 1519 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 3: and it seems like they're going to have a breakthrough, 1520 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 3: kind of this realization they don't really know stuff. But 1521 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 3: on Lotty's playlist, Lightning Crashes by Live starts to play 1522 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 3: in Van says, this is my favorite song if you 1523 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 3: like all these outrageously well selected needle drops. There is 1524 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 3: official Yellowjackets playlist on Spotify, and there's just so many 1525 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 3: good choices on there. So they begin to dance. Misty 1526 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 3: realizes that it's snowing, and they start to kind of 1527 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 3: have this party, and it seems like really good bonding, 1528 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 3: this freedom between them. But in the past, kid, Misty 1529 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 3: starts humming the song, and that to me is because 1530 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 3: of what comes next. It seems unlikely to me that 1531 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 3: they would connect that song to something. 1532 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Good right in the future. Why would you do that? 1533 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 3: But there's this idea that those things could be happening 1534 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,439 Speaker 3: at the same time, and the song is almost kind 1535 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 3: of leaking through that ethera between the two timelines is 1536 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 3: very interesting to me. So Misty hams a song Shorn 1537 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 3: freaks the fuck out. She's like, where did you hear that? 1538 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,640 Speaker 3: Why are you singing that? And then she's like you 1539 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 3: killed my baby. She slaps Misty. She's biting van like 1540 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 3: her rage is just it's overflowing at this point, and 1541 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 3: Lotty as the marta that she is, She turns to Shauna. 1542 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 3: Shauna punches her in the face. Lotty wipes her nose. 1543 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 3: She tells Harvey and Travis to leave, says Travis, take 1544 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,800 Speaker 3: Harvey to the bedroom. Doesn't want to see this, and 1545 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 3: she tells Shawna, you want to get this rage out. 1546 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 3: We need you here, not like this. We need you 1547 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 3: here present. We need you here in a way that 1548 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 3: you can help us. We need you. You survived, the 1549 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 3: baby didn't survive. You need to be here. So Shauna 1550 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,559 Speaker 3: understands the very bleak implications of this and just beats 1551 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:57,040 Speaker 3: the shout of Lotty. It is I so brutal. 1552 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 2: To the point where I'm watching this and going on, 1553 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:04,799 Speaker 2: I don't how does she live through There's no medical 1554 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 2: care out there. I'm like, you could die from this. 1555 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 3: I felt like so they I think they know where 1556 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 3: we're all at with fan theories and everything right, because 1557 01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,759 Speaker 3: it is so bad that when Shauna rolls off of Lotty, 1558 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 3: Lotty looks dead. The prosthetics are unbelievable. Her face is 1559 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 3: just absolutely swollen and cut, and Lotty didn't she never 1560 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 3: fought back. This scene made me cry because it one, 1561 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 3: it's very intense, but also there is this unbelievably weird, 1562 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,600 Speaker 3: emotional self sacrifice that Lotty is taking here and she 1563 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 3: just takes it. It's it's really just upsetting to watch, 1564 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 3: and you think you think Lotty's dead, and Shauna shakes 1565 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 3: her and and I felt like they would probably leave 1566 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 3: it there, and that's your cliffhanger, but it's Lotti, she'd 1567 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,640 Speaker 3: probably magic. She takes this kind of staggering breath just 1568 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 3: before it cuts to black, and spits blood from between 1569 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 3: her broken teeth, and Shauna goes outside and ices her 1570 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 3: bleeding knuckles, and it's just incredibly bleak stuff. And you'd 1571 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 3: think that that was where the episode would end because 1572 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 3: it was so horrific and shocking and you sort of 1573 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 3: can't really take any more. But no, the show still 1574 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 3: wants you to have an anxiety attack, still wants Shanna 1575 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 3: to have an anxiety attack, wants to leave you as 1576 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 3: on edge as possible. So Jeff brilliant. Another brilliant Jeff moment. 1577 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 3: He calls Camp Green Pine and very aware that his 1578 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 3: phone may be buggd good. 1579 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 1: This is a good day God call by Jeff, very. 1580 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 3: Good call by Jeff. He says hey Seana, and Shawna, 1581 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 3: in a good mum moment, says, how's Cally? Did something happen? No, hey, Shawna, 1582 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 3: So some bad news. Remember that guy that you got 1583 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,680 Speaker 3: into a crash with and he was missing and the 1584 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 3: police were interested in him. Well, it turns out they 1585 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 3: found his remain Remember him, Adam. We don't have anything 1586 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,800 Speaker 3: to do with it, but you know it sounds like 1587 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 3: they found him in this park. Uh cool, have a 1588 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 3: good trip by incredible and that's the end of the episode. 1589 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,479 Speaker 3: So Adam's remains on now in play. 1590 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:22,919 Speaker 2: Guys, I feel like we got some, as you mentioned, 1591 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:30,719 Speaker 2: some really good evidence for either the either the present 1592 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 2: timeline is happening first or they're happening at the same time, 1593 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 2: and these are two versions of the same people who 1594 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 2: are being informed by the events in the other time. 1595 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 3: Very lupers like somehow the time there is a correlation 1596 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,759 Speaker 3: between what is happening in both timelines. I'm so interested. 1597 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 3: There is two episodes left of this season. We have 1598 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 3: ended up in an outrageous situation where we have two 1599 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,439 Speaker 3: episodes left of this and two episodes of Succession. I 1600 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 3: don't know how they're gonna wrap it up. 1601 01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 1: I have zero ability to call this one. 1602 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 3: I could not make a bet. I would not be 1603 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,240 Speaker 3: on market moves. 1604 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 1: Both shows, honestly, both shows. 1605 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 3: I would love to know. I mean, there was that 1606 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,680 Speaker 3: great video that you shared in our like pre pro 1607 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,880 Speaker 3: chat where it was the guy who plays Carl from 1608 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 3: Succession and he's like, you will never guess. He's like, 1609 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 3: whatever you think you might know about the way it's 1610 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 3: gonna end, you will never guess. 1611 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 1: David rash, We'll have the will have the link to that. 1612 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 3: Video because it's very good. 1613 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 2: In the show notes, yeah, he says you may think 1614 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 2: that you can predict it, but you never will, which 1615 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,799 Speaker 2: leads me to believe that everything that we have guessed at. 1616 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,800 Speaker 3: Is completely wrong. Yeah, I know. And I feel like 1617 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 3: Succession has that tendency too. I mean Yellow Jackets has 1618 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 3: that potential too, where there's so much that they have 1619 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 3: to do in two episodes. They have to wrap certain 1620 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,479 Speaker 3: things up, but they also have to set up conflict 1621 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 3: for the third season. They have to give us a 1622 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 3: certain amount of answers, so that people will stay invested, 1623 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 3: but they also have to leave us with a lot 1624 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 3: of questions. So it's going to be a really interesting 1625 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 3: next couple of weeks. 1626 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 1: That's gonna be incredible up next nerd Out. 1627 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 3: In today's nerd Out, way you tell us what you 1628 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 3: love them, why, or a theory that you're excited to share, 1629 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 3: Nick shas a bloody yellow Jackets theory. 1630 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 2: Nick says this came to mind hearing your theory that 1631 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 2: Shawna's nosebleed landing on the symbol related to the birds 1632 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:40,000 Speaker 2: falling to their deaths. Misty suggests it is related to 1633 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 2: the iron in the ground. What is known for its 1634 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 2: iron content blood, which we have been seeing a lot 1635 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 2: of symbolism around. Could that be the link. Also, when 1636 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 2: you're pregnant, like Shawna, you also need more iron than normal. 1637 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 1: Could be part of. 1638 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 2: A supernatural explanation for some of the strange happenings as 1639 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 2: the show progresses. But this might not explain the significance 1640 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 2: of the symbol. Do the symbols point to iron rich 1641 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 2: or light areas or something. Okay, that's probably a stretch, 1642 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,679 Speaker 2: but still, Nick, this is very interesting. 1643 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 3: This is very interesting. 1644 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,480 Speaker 2: I have been thinking more and more about the symbols, 1645 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 2: and I now this is based on nothing other than 1646 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 2: our own navel gazing, but I have been trying to 1647 01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:32,439 Speaker 2: decipher the symbol as a kind of pictorial representation of 1648 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,759 Speaker 2: intersecting timelines. 1649 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 1: You have like one timeline coming in this way, other 1650 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 1: ones coming. 1651 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 2: In this way, and then they all meet in the 1652 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:46,400 Speaker 2: middle somehow Is that it? I don't know, but seeing 1653 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 2: that symbol, like, let me ask you this. This is 1654 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 2: going back in episode there's that pull out shot of 1655 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 2: Lotties cult camp and we see that the chairs and 1656 01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 2: this outdoor kind of arena are are set up in 1657 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 2: the shape of the symbol. 1658 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 1: Do you think she did that on purpose? 1659 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean she they actually I noticed this week 1660 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:17,320 Speaker 3: and they they actually use they have little symbol like 1661 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,439 Speaker 3: necklaces with the symbol on if they're in her cult. 1662 01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,479 Speaker 3: So I think that leans into Lotty's idea that it's 1663 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:27,320 Speaker 3: some kind of protection. But how much does she realize 1664 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 3: that could be happening on like a grander scale at 1665 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 3: the cult I'm very interested in. I also think this 1666 01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,160 Speaker 3: theory is interesting because I feel like the symbol is 1667 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 3: something they have to answer this season. Yes, and the 1668 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,799 Speaker 3: iron thing is interesting because Lottie says that the symbol 1669 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 3: is for protection and in like medieval folklore and also 1670 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 3: like fantacy, iron is always something that was used against 1671 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 3: magic or to protect against witches and stuff. So maybe 1672 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,280 Speaker 3: there's something in there with the blood and the iron 1673 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:59,280 Speaker 3: content and kind of how that may be impacting the girls. 1674 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,040 Speaker 3: Though I will also I do think both of us 1675 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 3: have moved away from the more logical explanations that we 1676 01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,519 Speaker 3: used to think, like that is it an iron rich 1677 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 3: area and they're hallucinating based on what they're eating out 1678 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 3: of the ground, like is it an army base. I 1679 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 3: still think I would be very surprised if that was 1680 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 3: the route they went at this point, because I feel 1681 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 3: like they're doing so much supernatural adjacent work. Though I 1682 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,519 Speaker 3: will say this is I think it would be a stretch, 1683 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 3: and I think they would have to really commit to 1684 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,719 Speaker 3: it in a very deep and serious way that would 1685 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,920 Speaker 3: probably take a whole season. I do think there is 1686 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,800 Speaker 3: a version of this show where it's just about the 1687 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 3: impact of trauma and there's actually nothing supernatural and there's 1688 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 3: nothing weird. It's just how they experience that terrifying time 1689 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,599 Speaker 3: and how that kind of bleeds into their daily life now. 1690 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,760 Speaker 3: But I think that would be almost you'd have to 1691 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,360 Speaker 3: take almost like a barrier level switch to be able 1692 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 3: to explain that away. I feel like. 1693 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,600 Speaker 2: Thinking about the iron and this, you know, one of 1694 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,600 Speaker 2: the things I've been wondering. There's, you know, in fairy folklore, 1695 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,600 Speaker 2: in various various cultures that have like fairy folklore, Like 1696 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,400 Speaker 2: one of the facets of fairy folklore is that they'll 1697 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 2: throw this huge feast and a party for people, and 1698 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,760 Speaker 2: if you eat their wonderful food, then all of a sudden. 1699 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,479 Speaker 3: You be you Yeah, like Greek mythology too, Yeah, who 1700 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 3: eats the pomegranate? You know, you end up trapped in 1701 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 3: the world of the dead. 1702 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 2: And I you know, I don't know if a fairy 1703 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 2: thing is going on, but it does feel like, certainly 1704 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:37,040 Speaker 2: with the imagery around the initial cannibal incident, it does 1705 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 2: feel like they they have eaten of this magical feast 1706 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,960 Speaker 2: and now are trapped somehow. 1707 01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 1708 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it feels I increasingly think it 1709 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 2: has to be. 1710 01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 1: It just has to be supernal. 1711 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 3: I think so too. And also, if we're going back 1712 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 3: to the symbol, I think you could say the symbol 1713 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 3: does look like a fairy, the dress with all the 1714 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,479 Speaker 3: different things coming out of it. I would I would 1715 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,639 Speaker 3: love for them to do. I love like hard fantasy 1716 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 3: stuff like that. There's this great series of books by 1717 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 3: Holly Black setting like the World of the Fayfolk, and 1718 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,320 Speaker 3: that taught me a lot about those kind of rules 1719 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,919 Speaker 3: and things like you know, iron being used to repel fairies. 1720 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,080 Speaker 3: And I would absolutely love if they did like a 1721 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 3: big swing like scary that Antler queen is a fairy 1722 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,559 Speaker 3: and this was them kind of taking part in this 1723 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 3: feast of the fee who eat who do eat? Humans 1724 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,760 Speaker 3: who have this terrifying kind of thing, and they are 1725 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 3: now part of that world and kind of partially half 1726 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,000 Speaker 3: in half out of that world. Would also work as 1727 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 3: a kind of version of our final destination theory, where 1728 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,720 Speaker 3: they're basically stuck in between two worlds and are being 1729 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,160 Speaker 3: hunted down by something from both. I'm in now, that's it, 1730 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 3: Yellow Jackets, Fairy Show, that's my, I'm into it, that's 1731 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 3: my that's my headcanon. Now it's all fairies. 1732 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Thanks so mutching it. 1733 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,280 Speaker 3: If you have theories and passions you want to share, 1734 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 3: hit us up xtraight at cricket dot Com instructions in 1735 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:57,679 Speaker 3: the show notes. 1736 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,200 Speaker 1: That's it for us, Rosie any plugs, plug. 1737 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 3: PU plus plus plus. You can find me here twice 1738 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 3: a week. You can find me at Rosie Marks, on 1739 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,000 Speaker 3: letterbox and Instagram. 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Your ability to be 1760 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 2: a productive member of society has taking a major release 1761 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 2: of Legend of the Zelda Tiers of the Kingdom, which 1762 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 2: is currently entrancing millions hundreds of millions around. 1763 01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 1: The globe, Star Wars Jedi Survivor. 1764 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 2: When we're talking about the upcoming release of Diablo four, 1765 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna talking about all the games we're playing. 1766 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 1: We've been talking about Dead Island two, We're gonna be 1767 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 1: talking about oh yeah, that we are playing right now. 1768 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 1: It's a great time for video. 1769 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:40,760 Speaker 3: And I'm going to actually add a plug. If you 1770 01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 3: are someone who's like, oh, I really want to play Zelder. 1771 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 3: I have a Switch, but it's seventy dollars. Guess what 1772 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,400 Speaker 3: If you are part of Nintendo Switch Online, which I'm 1773 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,760 Speaker 3: guessing most people are because you need it to play online, 1774 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 3: you can buy game vouchers that allow you to buy 1775 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 3: two games for fifty dollars each. That costs like one 1776 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,080 Speaker 3: hundred bucks, but you can buy any games and it 1777 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,080 Speaker 3: means that they cost fifty dollars, so you can get 1778 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 3: twenty dollars off. Legend is out of ten of the Kingdom. Obviously, 1779 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 3: only spend your game voucher on a game that costs 1780 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,679 Speaker 3: fifty dollars up, but for Zelda, that's a big change 1781 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,519 Speaker 3: because this is one of our first ever sixty nine 1782 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,599 Speaker 3: to ninety nine games, and it's worth every penny. 1783 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,880 Speaker 2: Subscribe to us on YouTube, where you can watch full 1784 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,720 Speaker 2: episodes of the show and check out our discord to 1785 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,080 Speaker 2: meet and hang out with tons of amazing fans and listeners. 1786 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,800 Speaker 1: Plus Rosie and I were there. We're discussing, We're doing 1787 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 1: it you, We're doing all of that. 1788 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,040 Speaker 3: Five star ratings five five bye. 1789 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,680 Speaker 1: Fine, we gotta have him. You gotta give them to us. 1790 01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:38,479 Speaker 2: Here is one from tandy tea yeay, you. 1791 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:39,400 Speaker 1: Guys are great. 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