1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:28,476 Speaker 1: Pushkin. A woman lies motionless. A passer by mistakes her 2 00:00:28,516 --> 00:00:31,596 Speaker 1: for a vagrant people often curl up in the hallways 3 00:00:31,636 --> 00:00:36,316 Speaker 1: of this building at night. He ignores her. Another two 4 00:00:36,316 --> 00:00:41,036 Speaker 1: hours passed before anyone realizes that the sleeping figure is 5 00:00:41,076 --> 00:00:45,596 Speaker 1: in fact dead, and not dead from illness or mishap. 6 00:00:46,276 --> 00:00:51,116 Speaker 1: She's been stabbed multiple times. Her clothing has also been 7 00:00:51,156 --> 00:00:55,796 Speaker 1: pushed up, exposing the lower half of her body. Local 8 00:00:55,876 --> 00:00:59,196 Speaker 1: residents claim they saw and heard nothing of her murder 9 00:00:59,196 --> 00:01:02,836 Speaker 1: in the night, but perhaps they simply heard nothing out 10 00:01:02,876 --> 00:01:07,476 Speaker 1: of the ordinary. After all, the neighborhood of Whitechapel, this 11 00:01:07,596 --> 00:01:10,956 Speaker 1: patch of London's yeast end, has a reputation as a 12 00:01:11,076 --> 00:01:15,756 Speaker 1: sink of misery and vice, a place feared and reviled 13 00:01:15,836 --> 00:01:19,836 Speaker 1: by many richer Londoners, a byeword for all that is 14 00:01:19,876 --> 00:01:24,516 Speaker 1: wrong with modern society. It is no stranger to violence 15 00:01:24,556 --> 00:01:29,236 Speaker 1: and murder, and soon it will become synonymous with the 16 00:01:29,276 --> 00:01:39,076 Speaker 1: deeds of a serial killer. I'm Hallie Reubin. Hold you're 17 00:01:39,156 --> 00:01:44,036 Speaker 1: listening to Bad Women. The Ripper retold, a series about 18 00:01:44,036 --> 00:01:46,556 Speaker 1: the real lives of the women killed by Jack the 19 00:01:46,636 --> 00:01:53,756 Speaker 1: Ripper and how we got their stories so wrong. One side, 20 00:01:53,836 --> 00:02:03,476 Speaker 1: money plenty and friends too by the scar Then for June, 21 00:02:03,796 --> 00:02:17,876 Speaker 1: smilder upon me hanaw One as my dolone. I'm not 22 00:02:18,236 --> 00:02:39,156 Speaker 1: twelve half seems to love me. I'm conflac. In order 23 00:02:39,196 --> 00:02:41,876 Speaker 1: to tell you these victims stories, I first need to 24 00:02:41,916 --> 00:02:45,076 Speaker 1: acquaint you with the spaces where they spent their final months, 25 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:54,276 Speaker 1: days and hours in London's East End. Listen, this is 26 00:02:54,276 --> 00:02:59,156 Speaker 1: the sound of eighteen eighty eight. It's a piece of 27 00:02:59,276 --> 00:03:03,156 Speaker 1: music called the Lost Chord, recorded in the summer of 28 00:03:03,196 --> 00:03:07,516 Speaker 1: that year on a phonograph, a marvelous new invention of 29 00:03:07,556 --> 00:03:13,076 Speaker 1: the era. We are in London and the date is 30 00:03:13,116 --> 00:03:17,956 Speaker 1: August sixth. This is the capital of one of the richest, 31 00:03:18,116 --> 00:03:22,156 Speaker 1: most technologically advanced superpowers on the face of the Earth. 32 00:03:22,956 --> 00:03:26,556 Speaker 1: It's also at the center of the largest empire in history, 33 00:03:26,916 --> 00:03:31,276 Speaker 1: with colonies, conquests, and dominions spanning a quarter of the globe, 34 00:03:31,676 --> 00:03:36,876 Speaker 1: from Canada to the Cape Egypt to Australia. Queen Victoria 35 00:03:36,916 --> 00:03:39,836 Speaker 1: has been sitting on the throne for more than fifty years, 36 00:03:39,876 --> 00:03:44,076 Speaker 1: reigning over this center of art, literature, commerce and science. 37 00:03:44,916 --> 00:03:48,276 Speaker 1: She has recently celebrated her golden jubilee with a series 38 00:03:48,276 --> 00:03:53,716 Speaker 1: of lavish balls magnificent festivals, dinners, regattas, races and parades 39 00:03:54,036 --> 00:03:58,756 Speaker 1: designed to display the extraordinary wealth of the nation. But 40 00:03:58,916 --> 00:04:03,956 Speaker 1: for all the splendor, there remains squalor out in town, 41 00:04:04,236 --> 00:04:12,916 Speaker 1: and pits and pockets of absolute destitution. Like here, I've 42 00:04:12,916 --> 00:04:17,476 Speaker 1: brought you to the heart of Whitechapel. This is Jack 43 00:04:17,516 --> 00:04:23,796 Speaker 1: the Rippers, London. A sailor from the busy docks nearby 44 00:04:23,916 --> 00:04:28,356 Speaker 1: has wandered, or perhaps been lured into the dense maze 45 00:04:28,396 --> 00:04:32,996 Speaker 1: of alleyways and dark courtyards. Get you, he'll be beaten 46 00:04:33,396 --> 00:04:37,516 Speaker 1: and left for dead. Whitechapel is one of the most 47 00:04:37,556 --> 00:04:41,076 Speaker 1: densely populated parts of the city. Dozens of people will 48 00:04:41,116 --> 00:04:44,116 Speaker 1: have heard the sailor's cries for help, but no one 49 00:04:44,276 --> 00:04:49,156 Speaker 1: lifts a finger. Well, why ain't deaf? But there ain't 50 00:04:49,156 --> 00:04:51,716 Speaker 1: a night passes, There ain't a fight in a passage 51 00:04:51,796 --> 00:04:54,636 Speaker 1: or a drunken row. But why should I in sophere? 52 00:04:55,396 --> 00:05:01,876 Speaker 1: So I ain't no business of mine. Let's walk along 53 00:05:01,916 --> 00:05:05,916 Speaker 1: this street. It's called George Yard. It's not the sort 54 00:05:05,916 --> 00:05:09,796 Speaker 1: of place for the unwary to wander. Even the local 55 00:05:09,836 --> 00:05:13,236 Speaker 1: police agree. They consider Georgeyard to be one of the 56 00:05:13,276 --> 00:05:17,276 Speaker 1: most dangerous streets in the locality. It is said that 57 00:05:17,396 --> 00:05:21,556 Speaker 1: police constables dare not even enter the buildings around us. 58 00:05:23,236 --> 00:05:26,996 Speaker 1: Crime has been decreasing across London as living standards have improved, 59 00:05:27,556 --> 00:05:34,596 Speaker 1: but not here, in these tight, crowded streets, grinding poverty persists. 60 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:38,556 Speaker 1: I can tell you this with some certainty, because the 61 00:05:38,636 --> 00:05:43,396 Speaker 1: written records are as rich as they are sobering. One 62 00:05:43,436 --> 00:05:47,916 Speaker 1: eminent businessman, Charles Booth, set about documenting the true extent 63 00:05:48,036 --> 00:05:52,196 Speaker 1: of poverty in the city. He sent his researchers to 64 00:05:52,316 --> 00:05:56,236 Speaker 1: visit these streets and assess the inhabitants. They marked the 65 00:05:56,316 --> 00:06:00,276 Speaker 1: findings down on a map, color coding what they had witnessed. 66 00:06:01,996 --> 00:06:05,676 Speaker 1: Look on those maps, and this neighborhood is bordered by 67 00:06:05,796 --> 00:06:10,356 Speaker 1: streets of red, pink, and purple, the middle class, the 68 00:06:10,516 --> 00:06:14,556 Speaker 1: well to do, and the comfortably off. But closer to 69 00:06:14,676 --> 00:06:20,516 Speaker 1: us those purples darkened blue denoting the poor and very 70 00:06:20,596 --> 00:06:26,276 Speaker 1: poor people in chronic want. Where we stand in George Yard, 71 00:06:26,836 --> 00:06:31,916 Speaker 1: The map shows stretches of jet black. In the legend 72 00:06:31,916 --> 00:06:36,636 Speaker 1: of the Booth maps, black stands for the lowest class, vicious, 73 00:06:36,676 --> 00:06:43,596 Speaker 1: it reads, and semi criminal. The houses here are tall, 74 00:06:43,956 --> 00:06:48,796 Speaker 1: dark and old. Their brickwork has worn and covered in soot. 75 00:06:48,836 --> 00:06:52,396 Speaker 1: Their plaster and paint cracks and crumbles. Many of the 76 00:06:52,436 --> 00:06:56,756 Speaker 1: windows are broken. Indeed, these buildings are so shabby and 77 00:06:56,836 --> 00:07:01,556 Speaker 1: neglected they look like they must be abandoned, but they're not. 78 00:07:03,036 --> 00:07:06,036 Speaker 1: The decrepit rooms inside have been portioned out to a 79 00:07:06,196 --> 00:07:11,036 Speaker 1: multitude of different occupants. Entire families are crammed into these 80 00:07:11,076 --> 00:07:14,956 Speaker 1: tiny living spaces, along with a variety of vermin which 81 00:07:14,996 --> 00:07:19,156 Speaker 1: make life itchy and disease ridden. There's a shared toilet 82 00:07:19,556 --> 00:07:23,716 Speaker 1: a grim common privy, but many residents avoid this if 83 00:07:23,756 --> 00:07:28,876 Speaker 1: they can help it, especially at night. Instead, they use 84 00:07:28,916 --> 00:07:32,556 Speaker 1: a chamber pot stowed under the bed, so the stench 85 00:07:32,676 --> 00:07:36,676 Speaker 1: in each room is heavy. I want you to meet 86 00:07:36,716 --> 00:07:41,836 Speaker 1: the people who live here, people like Elizabeth Stride. She's 87 00:07:41,876 --> 00:07:44,796 Speaker 1: currently renting a sparsely furnished room in one of these 88 00:07:44,796 --> 00:07:53,436 Speaker 1: buildings with her hard drinking, violent partner, Michael Kidney. Elizabeth 89 00:07:53,516 --> 00:07:57,716 Speaker 1: is resourceful, intelligent, and brave. She was born in rural 90 00:07:57,756 --> 00:08:01,996 Speaker 1: Sweden and has taught herself to speak English fluently. Her 91 00:08:02,076 --> 00:08:05,436 Speaker 1: life has been varied, at times filled with passion, but 92 00:08:05,636 --> 00:08:10,396 Speaker 1: also marked by terrible misfortune. Her forty four years of 93 00:08:10,436 --> 00:08:15,236 Speaker 1: life are fascinating, touching, and thought provoking, but she will 94 00:08:15,276 --> 00:08:19,876 Speaker 1: be remembered merely as the third victim of Jack the Ripper. 95 00:08:21,116 --> 00:08:25,036 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and Michael Kidney's room is grim and desolate, but 96 00:08:25,156 --> 00:08:29,316 Speaker 1: it does offer one significant advantage over other types of accommodation, 97 00:08:29,956 --> 00:08:33,956 Speaker 1: a door that can be shut. At the alternative a 98 00:08:34,036 --> 00:08:40,396 Speaker 1: common lodging house, all space is shared and privacy is nonexistent. 99 00:08:41,436 --> 00:08:44,916 Speaker 1: This is where we're heading next, Just over there on 100 00:08:45,076 --> 00:08:50,156 Speaker 1: Thrall Street as Wilmot's, a woman only lodging house. Polly Nichols, 101 00:08:50,316 --> 00:08:53,996 Speaker 1: another Ripper victim, is staying there at the moment. She's 102 00:08:54,036 --> 00:08:57,436 Speaker 1: been sleeping rough across London and she's only just arrived 103 00:08:57,476 --> 00:09:01,516 Speaker 1: in Whitechapel. Polly feels safer at Wilmot's than at lodging 104 00:09:01,556 --> 00:09:05,836 Speaker 1: houses that accommodate both sexes. Lodging house life can be 105 00:09:06,076 --> 00:09:10,876 Speaker 1: violent and unpredictable for a woman on her own. Polly's 106 00:09:10,956 --> 00:09:14,796 Speaker 1: heavy set but small in stature, and her father has 107 00:09:14,836 --> 00:09:17,796 Speaker 1: always thought she looked young for her age, even at 108 00:09:17,836 --> 00:09:23,876 Speaker 1: forty three. Polly's relationships with her family fascinate me. She 109 00:09:24,076 --> 00:09:27,236 Speaker 1: was certainly a daddy's girl, but even he couldn't fix 110 00:09:27,316 --> 00:09:29,916 Speaker 1: the mess that resulted when she walked out on her 111 00:09:29,996 --> 00:09:34,316 Speaker 1: husband and children never to return. For a Victorian wife 112 00:09:34,356 --> 00:09:39,756 Speaker 1: and mother, this is extraordinarily bold, almost unheard of. What 113 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:46,836 Speaker 1: motivated her? Why would she do such a thing. But 114 00:09:46,956 --> 00:09:50,556 Speaker 1: we'll return to Polly Nichols in a later episode. For now, 115 00:09:51,116 --> 00:09:54,716 Speaker 1: we're on the way to another lodging house altogether via 116 00:09:54,796 --> 00:10:04,156 Speaker 1: a local market kite. These streets are a hive of activity. 117 00:10:04,316 --> 00:10:10,316 Speaker 1: Street sellers, beggars, musicians, drunkards, workers, shoppers, of course, lots 118 00:10:10,316 --> 00:10:14,836 Speaker 1: of horse traffic. All buy rope, stair rods, petticoat lane 119 00:10:14,876 --> 00:10:20,076 Speaker 1: bursts with extraordinary sights, sounds and smells. Canny salesman push 120 00:10:20,196 --> 00:10:26,236 Speaker 1: cheap garments, imitation jewelry and dubious medicines. That first price 121 00:10:26,396 --> 00:10:29,556 Speaker 1: is bad. They crowd the street, and the path between 122 00:10:29,556 --> 00:10:33,356 Speaker 1: them is narrow. I can't give you sixteen. Some stalls 123 00:10:33,436 --> 00:10:36,556 Speaker 1: offer a medley of brick a brack, Madam, looks like 124 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,476 Speaker 1: you've guy through a fire for a bargain. Furniture covers 125 00:10:39,596 --> 00:10:43,836 Speaker 1: all clothes, worn out boots, and rusty locks. Buyers planned 126 00:10:43,876 --> 00:10:47,276 Speaker 1: to renovate their items and sell them on again. There 127 00:10:47,316 --> 00:10:50,476 Speaker 1: is a flourishing trade in secondhand clothing and wear better 128 00:10:50,476 --> 00:10:52,596 Speaker 1: than anything you've bought before, and the rent is due, 129 00:10:52,716 --> 00:10:54,996 Speaker 1: or when someone has an eaten for a while, a 130 00:10:55,116 --> 00:10:58,116 Speaker 1: lady's bonnet or a man's shirt can be turned over 131 00:10:58,156 --> 00:11:03,236 Speaker 1: to a dealer or a pawnbroker for reddy cash over. 132 00:11:03,316 --> 00:11:07,196 Speaker 1: There is Ammy Chapman, that tired and weak soul with 133 00:11:07,276 --> 00:11:13,956 Speaker 1: a terrible cough. She's contracted tuberculosis. Annie is counting the 134 00:11:14,036 --> 00:11:17,956 Speaker 1: days until Saturday. That's when her partner, Ted Stanley comes 135 00:11:17,956 --> 00:11:20,436 Speaker 1: and meets her, takes her to the pub and spends 136 00:11:20,436 --> 00:11:23,796 Speaker 1: the weekend with her at a local lodging house. Annie 137 00:11:23,876 --> 00:11:26,716 Speaker 1: has bought herself a cheap ring to wear in place 138 00:11:26,756 --> 00:11:31,196 Speaker 1: of a wedding band. Even here in Whitechapel, she is 139 00:11:31,236 --> 00:11:36,756 Speaker 1: worried about appearances. Not that long ago, Annie led an 140 00:11:36,956 --> 00:11:41,236 Speaker 1: entirely different life. She owned pretty ear rings, brooches, and 141 00:11:41,316 --> 00:11:44,716 Speaker 1: a real wedding ring. She even lived on a country 142 00:11:44,876 --> 00:11:49,076 Speaker 1: estate in the shadow of Windsor Castle, Queen Victoria's residence. 143 00:11:50,036 --> 00:11:54,236 Speaker 1: Her story, her tumble from comfort in nineteenth century respectability, 144 00:11:54,716 --> 00:11:58,876 Speaker 1: is an astonishing and poignant one, but she rarely reveals 145 00:11:58,876 --> 00:12:01,396 Speaker 1: the truth of her past life to anyone around here. 146 00:12:02,356 --> 00:12:06,236 Speaker 1: The woman they call Dark Annie leans against a wall 147 00:12:06,716 --> 00:12:13,076 Speaker 1: watching the hubbub traders hock fruits and vegetables, breads and cakes. 148 00:12:13,596 --> 00:12:20,556 Speaker 1: Customers haggle over fish. This part of London is home 149 00:12:20,636 --> 00:12:25,516 Speaker 1: to a huge immigrant community. Jewish refugees fleeing the murderous 150 00:12:25,516 --> 00:12:29,636 Speaker 1: programs of Russia and Eastern Europe have flocked here. Yiddish 151 00:12:29,716 --> 00:12:32,876 Speaker 1: is spoken on the streets and floats from the theaters 152 00:12:32,876 --> 00:12:38,636 Speaker 1: and music halls that catered to the newcomers. But we're 153 00:12:38,676 --> 00:12:41,876 Speaker 1: just passing through the market and down this side street. 154 00:12:42,596 --> 00:12:46,596 Speaker 1: Its slick with sewage and pools of stagnant water. In 155 00:12:46,716 --> 00:12:50,956 Speaker 1: certain places, the stench of rot and refuse is pungent 156 00:12:51,156 --> 00:12:57,116 Speaker 1: and nauseating. Trash gathers in the corners near dwellings, human waste, 157 00:12:57,156 --> 00:13:00,916 Speaker 1: horse droppings, worthless scraps, and things broken beyond use or 158 00:13:00,956 --> 00:13:05,556 Speaker 1: scattered about. Nothing of any value, no matter how minute, 159 00:13:05,836 --> 00:13:08,916 Speaker 1: is ever thrown away. There is always some one who 160 00:13:09,196 --> 00:13:12,916 Speaker 1: or repurpose it, fix it, or sell it on. People 161 00:13:13,036 --> 00:13:17,356 Speaker 1: have many ways of surviving here, and here's our destination. 162 00:13:18,316 --> 00:13:21,956 Speaker 1: This common lodging house is a bleak and grimy establishment. 163 00:13:23,556 --> 00:13:27,156 Speaker 1: Common lodging houses got going in the early eighteen fifties 164 00:13:27,196 --> 00:13:30,876 Speaker 1: in order to cater for very poor people who could 165 00:13:30,956 --> 00:13:34,516 Speaker 1: no longer even afford a weekly rent in a room 166 00:13:34,596 --> 00:13:39,636 Speaker 1: of their own that social historian Sarah Wise. Now, these 167 00:13:39,676 --> 00:13:44,476 Speaker 1: common lodging houses were totally private concerns, but they had 168 00:13:44,516 --> 00:13:48,796 Speaker 1: by law to be inspected by the Metropolitan Police. The 169 00:13:48,876 --> 00:13:52,876 Speaker 1: stipulation was a common lodging house was somewhere in which 170 00:13:53,156 --> 00:13:56,996 Speaker 1: three or more persons not of the same family may 171 00:13:57,076 --> 00:14:01,956 Speaker 1: sleep within the same dormitory. So it's the idea that, yes, 172 00:14:02,476 --> 00:14:05,236 Speaker 1: we're mixing loads of people together with all the potential 173 00:14:05,316 --> 00:14:08,756 Speaker 1: moral dangers of that could involve. But that's okay because 174 00:14:08,796 --> 00:14:12,156 Speaker 1: all the beds are separated. We've got a superintendent on site, 175 00:14:12,156 --> 00:14:14,676 Speaker 1: so no hanky panky gets going, And of course the 176 00:14:14,716 --> 00:14:19,516 Speaker 1: police can inspect. Common lodging houses aren't supposed to admit 177 00:14:19,596 --> 00:14:23,116 Speaker 1: any one of known bad character. Drunkenness and other forms 178 00:14:23,156 --> 00:14:26,676 Speaker 1: of vice like adultery aren't supposed to flourish here, but 179 00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:30,836 Speaker 1: in practice many turn a blind eye. They're not too 180 00:14:30,876 --> 00:14:35,676 Speaker 1: fussed about bad character, and they do admit drunks. In fact, 181 00:14:35,796 --> 00:14:37,996 Speaker 1: the conditions at a lodging house are as good or 182 00:14:38,036 --> 00:14:40,796 Speaker 1: as bad as the person who runs it, and this 183 00:14:40,876 --> 00:14:43,916 Speaker 1: lodging house is home to an awful lot of vice. 184 00:14:44,916 --> 00:14:48,476 Speaker 1: At the entrance, SIT's the deputy lodging housekeeper or manager. 185 00:14:49,116 --> 00:14:52,796 Speaker 1: Before nightfall, he collects fourpence from everyone who intends to 186 00:14:52,916 --> 00:14:56,476 Speaker 1: use the dormitory upstairs. That would be less than about 187 00:14:56,476 --> 00:15:01,276 Speaker 1: ten dollars today. Fourpence buys a coffin bed, a person 188 00:15:01,356 --> 00:15:05,756 Speaker 1: sized box, likely hopping with fleas, in which to lie down. 189 00:15:06,516 --> 00:15:10,956 Speaker 1: The room is noisy, dirty and stifling, but it's better 190 00:15:10,996 --> 00:15:17,356 Speaker 1: than the street. And down this passage is another room. 191 00:15:17,436 --> 00:15:21,556 Speaker 1: This kitchen is thirty feet long and packed full of people. 192 00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:26,356 Speaker 1: An older woman dozes to one side with a filthy 193 00:15:26,436 --> 00:15:31,396 Speaker 1: child playing at her feet. One thinder dear dead days 194 00:15:31,596 --> 00:15:37,076 Speaker 1: beyond recall. Smells like old grease, beer, stale tobacco smoke, 195 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:41,836 Speaker 1: and the sharp and ninny scent of sweaty, unwashed bodies. 196 00:15:43,156 --> 00:15:46,276 Speaker 1: Just over there is Kate Edo's with her partner John Kelly. 197 00:15:46,876 --> 00:15:52,396 Speaker 1: Kate's the one singing Sweet Kata spent much of her 198 00:15:52,436 --> 00:15:56,076 Speaker 1: life doing this, though usually she's selling sheet music. When 199 00:15:56,116 --> 00:16:00,596 Speaker 1: she's belting out a tune. Everyone who knows her, from 200 00:16:00,596 --> 00:16:03,796 Speaker 1: her sisters to her friends at the lodging house, remark 201 00:16:03,876 --> 00:16:12,036 Speaker 1: on her jolly personality. Just a song. Twilight, when the 202 00:16:12,316 --> 00:16:25,036 Speaker 1: lights are low and the flickering shadows softly, Godman gone. However, 203 00:16:25,556 --> 00:16:31,516 Speaker 1: drink can turn her high spiritedness into aggression. Kate fascinates me. 204 00:16:32,316 --> 00:16:35,236 Speaker 1: She's a rebel, and she was born to a rebel. 205 00:16:36,116 --> 00:16:39,356 Speaker 1: Her father was a Union agitator, so perhaps it was 206 00:16:39,436 --> 00:16:42,956 Speaker 1: he who taught her to rail against the system. She 207 00:16:43,076 --> 00:16:46,916 Speaker 1: rejected the conventional existence of her mother, grandmother and sisters 208 00:16:47,196 --> 00:16:51,756 Speaker 1: life constantly giving birth, scrubbing and cooking, and instead chose 209 00:16:51,796 --> 00:16:55,356 Speaker 1: the open road. She's lived for many years as a vagrant. 210 00:16:56,396 --> 00:16:59,756 Speaker 1: Kate's story is about the lack of choices available to 211 00:16:59,796 --> 00:17:03,716 Speaker 1: women and how class and gender kept them in poverty. 212 00:17:03,876 --> 00:17:07,796 Speaker 1: Lost his shot a group of men, all of them drunk, 213 00:17:08,236 --> 00:17:12,436 Speaker 1: a crowded by the range, quaffing beer. This is a 214 00:17:12,516 --> 00:17:16,036 Speaker 1: common sight. Many of the people here are bereathed, lonely 215 00:17:16,076 --> 00:17:20,076 Speaker 1: and homeless, and they drown their Sorrows's lost this place, 216 00:17:20,116 --> 00:17:23,836 Speaker 1: you may as well. Whistles are not. Some commotion is 217 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:28,156 Speaker 1: breaking out in one corner. It's two women arguing over 218 00:17:28,196 --> 00:17:31,836 Speaker 1: a bar of soap. This is a precious commodity that 219 00:17:32,956 --> 00:17:36,236 Speaker 1: get off me. But there's also conviviality in this kitchen. 220 00:17:36,796 --> 00:17:39,556 Speaker 1: The cooking range, the focus of the room burns all 221 00:17:39,676 --> 00:17:42,996 Speaker 1: day and it bathes the space around it in warmth. 222 00:17:43,556 --> 00:17:46,956 Speaker 1: This is a blessing. Even in the summer London days 223 00:17:46,996 --> 00:17:51,156 Speaker 1: can be chilly. Everybody convened down in the great big 224 00:17:51,156 --> 00:17:54,396 Speaker 1: common kitchen. You would buy your food out in the street, 225 00:17:54,436 --> 00:17:57,116 Speaker 1: maybe from a cost amonger. Maybe you get a savolloy 226 00:17:57,596 --> 00:18:01,236 Speaker 1: or some fish that, maybe some bacon or a jacket potato, 227 00:18:01,676 --> 00:18:04,796 Speaker 1: and you use the range of the common stove to 228 00:18:04,876 --> 00:18:06,956 Speaker 1: cook your food and you eat it in the kitchen 229 00:18:07,156 --> 00:18:10,236 Speaker 1: with everyone around you. And we've got plenty of eyewitness 230 00:18:10,236 --> 00:18:13,556 Speaker 1: accounts of just what kind of quite convivial places these 231 00:18:13,556 --> 00:18:17,636 Speaker 1: could be card games, all sorts of board games going on, 232 00:18:17,876 --> 00:18:21,156 Speaker 1: people laughing, joking, reading the newspaper in the corner, and 233 00:18:21,196 --> 00:18:24,556 Speaker 1: this human warmth and human noise and company and chat. 234 00:18:24,756 --> 00:18:28,516 Speaker 1: I wouldn't underestimate the value of that. In some broken lines, 235 00:18:29,956 --> 00:18:33,156 Speaker 1: this lodging house is the haunt of beggars, criminals, women 236 00:18:33,196 --> 00:18:37,916 Speaker 1: selling sex, chronic alcoholics, the unemployed, the sick, the old. 237 00:18:38,196 --> 00:18:41,036 Speaker 1: But there are people here from other walks of life too. 238 00:18:41,876 --> 00:18:44,636 Speaker 1: Some of these lodging house residents entered the world in 239 00:18:44,956 --> 00:18:49,636 Speaker 1: entirely different circumstances. We do hear of members of the 240 00:18:49,676 --> 00:18:54,396 Speaker 1: aristocracy who have drunk their inheritance or gambled it away. 241 00:18:54,956 --> 00:18:58,596 Speaker 1: Maybe being an aristocrat wasn't what they wanted. So a 242 00:18:58,716 --> 00:19:02,156 Speaker 1: much bigger mix than many people would have thought living 243 00:19:02,236 --> 00:19:08,476 Speaker 1: in your common lodging house Today, the sixth August, I'm 244 00:19:08,516 --> 00:19:11,836 Speaker 1: looking for a particular face in this kitchen, a local 245 00:19:11,876 --> 00:19:16,916 Speaker 1: woman named Martha Tabram. Martha's around forty, and like most 246 00:19:16,956 --> 00:19:19,676 Speaker 1: of the women who live here, her hard life has 247 00:19:19,716 --> 00:19:23,836 Speaker 1: taken its toll. Her marriage has soured, as have other 248 00:19:23,916 --> 00:19:28,116 Speaker 1: partnerships with men. In a few hours, Martha's story will 249 00:19:28,276 --> 00:19:35,596 Speaker 1: end in her murder. As evening draws in, the atmosphere 250 00:19:35,596 --> 00:19:41,276 Speaker 1: in the kitchen starts to change, desperation increases. The deputy 251 00:19:41,316 --> 00:19:44,596 Speaker 1: lodging housekeeper has started turning out those who haven't paid 252 00:19:44,636 --> 00:19:50,716 Speaker 1: for a bed that night. Outside, a police constable is 253 00:19:50,716 --> 00:19:56,156 Speaker 1: on patrol. Fights often break out when lodging houses close 254 00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:59,236 Speaker 1: their doors for the evening. Today is a public holiday, 255 00:19:59,316 --> 00:20:02,356 Speaker 1: so some locals have indulged in more drink than usual. 256 00:20:03,196 --> 00:20:07,316 Speaker 1: This officer is ready and waiting to arrest any troublemakers. 257 00:20:11,716 --> 00:20:14,676 Speaker 1: The men of the local Police Force H Division will 258 00:20:14,716 --> 00:20:17,476 Speaker 1: soon be pitched into a difficult and desperate hunt to 259 00:20:17,516 --> 00:20:21,476 Speaker 1: find Jack. The Ripper and end the horrific killings. What 260 00:20:21,596 --> 00:20:24,156 Speaker 1: they do, what they say, and what they decide to 261 00:20:24,276 --> 00:20:27,476 Speaker 1: enter into the historical record will set the tone for 262 00:20:27,516 --> 00:20:30,956 Speaker 1: how the murdered women are remembered well into the twenty 263 00:20:30,956 --> 00:20:34,556 Speaker 1: first century. So let's learn a bit about them and 264 00:20:34,676 --> 00:20:41,476 Speaker 1: follow this police constable back to headquarters. The Ripper, we're told, 265 00:20:41,876 --> 00:20:55,996 Speaker 1: will be back in just a moment. Welcome to Leamon 266 00:20:56,036 --> 00:21:00,156 Speaker 1: Street Police Station, home to H Division of the Metropolitan Police. 267 00:21:01,036 --> 00:21:05,156 Speaker 1: H Division comprises about five hundred officers pounding their beats 268 00:21:05,156 --> 00:21:08,036 Speaker 1: in a labyrinth of dark city streets. From the wharves 269 00:21:08,076 --> 00:21:11,036 Speaker 1: and docks on the rivers up to the gas works 270 00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:15,236 Speaker 1: and filthy canals of Haggerston. In between are some of 271 00:21:15,276 --> 00:21:19,236 Speaker 1: the most deprived neighborhoods in the capital. Plenty of dark 272 00:21:19,276 --> 00:21:24,036 Speaker 1: blues and blacks on Charles Booth's poverty map. Inside is 273 00:21:24,036 --> 00:21:26,316 Speaker 1: the kind of commotion you might expect of a busy 274 00:21:26,356 --> 00:21:32,916 Speaker 1: police station, very much shutter. We know from the records 275 00:21:32,956 --> 00:21:35,396 Speaker 1: that there's a steady flow of arrests and that the 276 00:21:35,476 --> 00:21:39,436 Speaker 1: holding cells are filling up. John Hawkins has been brought 277 00:21:39,476 --> 00:21:42,836 Speaker 1: in for assaulting his wife and nineteen year old Joseph 278 00:21:42,836 --> 00:21:48,596 Speaker 1: Gibson is under arrest, charged with indecent exposure. I'm interested 279 00:21:48,596 --> 00:21:52,756 Speaker 1: in one police officer in particular, Thomas Barrett. He's about 280 00:21:52,796 --> 00:21:55,276 Speaker 1: to start a night shift and he's going to play 281 00:21:55,316 --> 00:21:59,676 Speaker 1: a significant role in Martha Tabram's story. We know from 282 00:21:59,716 --> 00:22:02,756 Speaker 1: police records that Thomas is five foot ten. This is 283 00:22:02,836 --> 00:22:06,516 Speaker 1: tall by Victorian standards. He's also just moved to London 284 00:22:06,556 --> 00:22:10,236 Speaker 1: from a dyllick rural Dorset. White Chapel has surely been 285 00:22:10,276 --> 00:22:14,836 Speaker 1: a shock to the system. He himself lives outside the neighborhood, 286 00:22:15,316 --> 00:22:18,556 Speaker 1: for Whitechapel isn't considered a fitting address for such an 287 00:22:18,596 --> 00:22:23,356 Speaker 1: upstanding young man. Thomas is getting ready to walk his 288 00:22:23,476 --> 00:22:27,316 Speaker 1: regular beat. He carries an oil lantern swinging from his belt, 289 00:22:27,396 --> 00:22:30,836 Speaker 1: which he'll use to peer into Whitechapel's dark corners, and 290 00:22:30,956 --> 00:22:34,236 Speaker 1: there are many of those. He also has a pair 291 00:22:34,276 --> 00:22:37,556 Speaker 1: of handcuffs with him and a whistle. This is a 292 00:22:37,636 --> 00:22:41,196 Speaker 1: relatively new piece of technology, allowing him to cut through 293 00:22:41,236 --> 00:22:44,156 Speaker 1: the din of the Whitechapel streets and someone help if 294 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:48,116 Speaker 1: he needs it. It's a useful tool as he patrols, 295 00:22:48,156 --> 00:22:51,236 Speaker 1: he'll meet with all kinds of crimes and misdemeanors from 296 00:22:51,276 --> 00:22:56,396 Speaker 1: alcohol fueled fights to robberies, stabbings and domestic violence. He'll 297 00:22:56,396 --> 00:23:00,836 Speaker 1: also confront social care issues. When the police encounter drunkards 298 00:23:00,836 --> 00:23:03,556 Speaker 1: who are so inebriated that they can no longer walk, 299 00:23:03,956 --> 00:23:11,276 Speaker 1: they arrest them and bring them in glass and circumciser. 300 00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:15,996 Speaker 1: Take local woman Margaret Kine. By the start of this year, 301 00:23:16,156 --> 00:23:20,876 Speaker 1: she had been charged with drunken disorderliness over two hundred times. 302 00:23:21,236 --> 00:23:26,196 Speaker 1: Sometimes she challenges the policeman outside the station. On other occasions, 303 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:33,676 Speaker 1: she just hands herself in. The recruitment criteria to join 304 00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:37,316 Speaker 1: the force are strict. Officers must be able to read 305 00:23:37,356 --> 00:23:40,676 Speaker 1: and write. They also must be over a certain height, 306 00:23:41,196 --> 00:23:44,756 Speaker 1: aged between twenty one and thirty five, and come with 307 00:23:44,836 --> 00:23:49,836 Speaker 1: a reference that shows their good, respectable character. But whatever 308 00:23:49,916 --> 00:23:53,356 Speaker 1: you might have gathered from Sherlock Holmes stories, the detection 309 00:23:53,436 --> 00:23:58,396 Speaker 1: skills of these officers are limited. They rely on eye witnesses, confessions, 310 00:23:58,676 --> 00:24:04,556 Speaker 1: and catching culprits red handed. We're back out on the 311 00:24:04,636 --> 00:24:09,036 Speaker 1: street and it's dark. Let's follow Constable Bearrett on his 312 00:24:09,196 --> 00:24:11,236 Speaker 1: beat about the Angel and Crown for a drink. We 313 00:24:11,316 --> 00:24:14,876 Speaker 1: pass off duty soldiers stationed at the nearby Tower of London. 314 00:24:15,316 --> 00:24:18,756 Speaker 1: I rather fancy the King girls were turning onto Whitechapel Road, 315 00:24:19,156 --> 00:24:23,276 Speaker 1: the busiest and widest thoroughfare in the area. It's lined 316 00:24:23,316 --> 00:24:28,756 Speaker 1: with pubs, one seemingly every few yards. Here the hopeless 317 00:24:28,796 --> 00:24:31,996 Speaker 1: drown their sorrows and rot gut gin. But they are 318 00:24:32,076 --> 00:24:35,076 Speaker 1: also the closest thing many local people have to a 319 00:24:35,196 --> 00:24:39,436 Speaker 1: parlor or a living room. Here people can meet, talk, 320 00:24:39,756 --> 00:24:42,996 Speaker 1: play games, and sing together, all in the warm amber 321 00:24:42,996 --> 00:24:47,276 Speaker 1: glow of gaslight. Some pubs are even opulent, with carved 322 00:24:47,316 --> 00:24:51,516 Speaker 1: wooden paneling and decorative mirrors. Alado knows myself that's half 323 00:24:51,516 --> 00:24:53,916 Speaker 1: a pint of Ale with a pennyworth of the Angel 324 00:24:53,956 --> 00:24:56,956 Speaker 1: and Crown on Gholston Street is not such a place. 325 00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:01,636 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and fifty years old, and it shows. 326 00:25:02,196 --> 00:25:05,356 Speaker 1: This pub's interior has been worn by the years and 327 00:25:05,556 --> 00:25:08,476 Speaker 1: by the rough company that congregates here. Will you take something? 328 00:25:08,556 --> 00:25:11,676 Speaker 1: Miss Martha Tabram has been here this evening with a 329 00:25:11,796 --> 00:25:15,236 Speaker 1: friend and two soldiers who would have been paying for 330 00:25:15,276 --> 00:25:19,596 Speaker 1: their drinks. In the Victorian era, this was expected of men, 331 00:25:19,996 --> 00:25:24,956 Speaker 1: no matter their social background. Martha, like so many Whitechapel inhabitants, 332 00:25:25,116 --> 00:25:28,196 Speaker 1: likes a tipple. But it's possible that an edge of 333 00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:31,956 Speaker 1: desperation crept in on her enjoyment as the hours wore 334 00:25:32,036 --> 00:25:36,236 Speaker 1: on this evening. Martha would have woken this morning not 335 00:25:36,356 --> 00:25:39,676 Speaker 1: knowing where she would be sleeping come nightfall, when the 336 00:25:39,756 --> 00:25:43,156 Speaker 1: pub closes, she'll be worried about scraping together the four 337 00:25:43,196 --> 00:25:46,596 Speaker 1: pence to return to her lodging house. Will she be 338 00:25:46,636 --> 00:25:49,276 Speaker 1: able to afford it? Or will she have to sleep 339 00:25:49,316 --> 00:25:54,276 Speaker 1: on the street, With all the dangers this brings. Constable 340 00:25:54,316 --> 00:25:58,276 Speaker 1: Barrett continues his beat. Leaving the main street, we are 341 00:25:58,476 --> 00:26:03,396 Speaker 1: entering darker, narrower alleys and passages. This lack of light 342 00:26:03,756 --> 00:26:08,396 Speaker 1: is oppressive and menacing. We slide and skid on who 343 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:12,316 Speaker 1: knows what? A figure appears ahead of us, a man 344 00:26:13,236 --> 00:26:18,116 Speaker 1: Barrett's lamp illuminates a soldier in uniform. The Constable challenges him, 345 00:26:18,516 --> 00:26:21,676 Speaker 1: what is he doing loitering here at this time? Wayne 346 00:26:21,756 --> 00:26:24,236 Speaker 1: for a chum who went off with a girl? Comes 347 00:26:24,276 --> 00:26:27,996 Speaker 1: the reply. Not an unusual answer perhaps, And so the 348 00:26:28,036 --> 00:26:34,996 Speaker 1: beat continues, hour after hour with no rest. We are 349 00:26:34,996 --> 00:26:38,636 Speaker 1: passing Miller's Court. Now there in the broken window of 350 00:26:38,716 --> 00:26:43,876 Speaker 1: number thirteen, a light flickers. Mary Jane Kelly, a sex worker, 351 00:26:43,996 --> 00:26:47,156 Speaker 1: rents this one room abode with her partner Joseph Barnett, 352 00:26:47,596 --> 00:26:51,036 Speaker 1: who has only recently lost his job at Billingsgate Fish Market. 353 00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:55,036 Speaker 1: This was their only source of income, and Barnett is 354 00:26:55,076 --> 00:26:58,236 Speaker 1: too proud to let his girlfriends solicit on the streets again. 355 00:26:58,996 --> 00:27:02,316 Speaker 1: Their worries will grow in the coming weeks before Mary 356 00:27:02,396 --> 00:27:06,796 Speaker 1: Jane becomes a victim of the Ripper. Mary Jane's life 357 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,356 Speaker 1: is a puzzle for anyone attempting to unraub all the 358 00:27:09,436 --> 00:27:13,196 Speaker 1: stories and half truths that make up her existence. She 359 00:27:13,316 --> 00:27:16,036 Speaker 1: once sold sex in the rich West End of London 360 00:27:16,436 --> 00:27:20,156 Speaker 1: and moved in much higher circles, wearing nice dresses and 361 00:27:20,316 --> 00:27:24,756 Speaker 1: traveling in carriages between restaurants and hotels. What on earth 362 00:27:24,836 --> 00:27:28,076 Speaker 1: happened to land her here in a furnished room in 363 00:27:28,116 --> 00:27:32,236 Speaker 1: a yard across from a block of stinking latrines, But 364 00:27:32,356 --> 00:27:36,156 Speaker 1: that will be for later. Now, as the first glow 365 00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:39,316 Speaker 1: of morning breaks the eastern sky, and as workers begin 366 00:27:39,356 --> 00:27:42,476 Speaker 1: to rise from their beds, there are other matters to 367 00:27:42,556 --> 00:27:48,156 Speaker 1: return to place. We are back in George Yard. A 368 00:27:48,236 --> 00:27:51,876 Speaker 1: woman's body has been found. The wide pool of blood 369 00:27:51,956 --> 00:27:55,716 Speaker 1: around it has already begun to thicken and dry. Her 370 00:27:55,756 --> 00:28:00,716 Speaker 1: clothes are in disarray. It seems hopeless but Constable Barrett 371 00:28:00,796 --> 00:28:05,036 Speaker 1: sends for medical assistance. Martha Tabram has been dead for 372 00:28:05,076 --> 00:28:09,316 Speaker 1: several hours, says doctor Khaleim. He counts thirteen nine d 373 00:28:09,476 --> 00:28:13,836 Speaker 1: stab wounds. When the catalog of injuries has later read 374 00:28:13,836 --> 00:28:16,916 Speaker 1: out the coroner accord, he says it is the most 375 00:28:17,036 --> 00:28:21,156 Speaker 1: dreadful crime anyone can imagine, and declares that the murderer 376 00:28:21,276 --> 00:28:29,196 Speaker 1: must be a savage. He urges the officers of h 377 00:28:29,276 --> 00:28:33,596 Speaker 1: Division to find the culprit. Constable Barrett is sent to 378 00:28:33,596 --> 00:28:36,196 Speaker 1: track down the soldier he'd seen at about the time 379 00:28:36,196 --> 00:28:40,236 Speaker 1: of Martha's death, but he has no luck. The other 380 00:28:40,276 --> 00:28:44,516 Speaker 1: soldiers he interviews close ranks, offering up alibis for each 381 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:50,996 Speaker 1: other and frustrating Barrett's investigation. With hindsight, the viciousness of 382 00:28:51,076 --> 00:28:54,836 Speaker 1: Martha's unsolved murder will cause some people to conclude that 383 00:28:54,916 --> 00:29:00,556 Speaker 1: her death was the work of Jack the Ripper. Rightly 384 00:29:00,636 --> 00:29:04,916 Speaker 1: or wrongly, Martha's death doesn't feature in the conventional telling 385 00:29:04,956 --> 00:29:08,596 Speaker 1: of the Famous Ripper story. Her murder, along with the 386 00:29:08,676 --> 00:29:12,076 Speaker 1: killings of ten other women between April eighteen eighty eight 387 00:29:12,156 --> 00:29:16,116 Speaker 1: and February eighteen ninety one, are referred to collectively as 388 00:29:16,156 --> 00:29:20,516 Speaker 1: the White Chapel murders. Those women were Emma Elizabeth Smith, 389 00:29:20,956 --> 00:29:26,276 Speaker 1: Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Katherine Edos, Mary Jane, 390 00:29:26,356 --> 00:29:31,796 Speaker 1: Kelly Rose Milott, Alice Mackenzie, Francis Coles, and the torso 391 00:29:32,036 --> 00:29:36,596 Speaker 1: of an anonymous woman found under a railway arch. At 392 00:29:36,636 --> 00:29:40,436 Speaker 1: the time and even today, there is debate about whether 393 00:29:40,516 --> 00:29:44,356 Speaker 1: all of these women were victims of the same killer. Eventually, 394 00:29:44,396 --> 00:29:46,916 Speaker 1: the consensus among the police would be that, due to 395 00:29:46,956 --> 00:29:49,436 Speaker 1: the similarity of the weapon used and the nature of 396 00:29:49,476 --> 00:29:53,996 Speaker 1: the injuries, only Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Katherine, and Mary Jane 397 00:29:54,196 --> 00:29:58,636 Speaker 1: could be identified as Ripper victims. Martha's death, as well 398 00:29:58,676 --> 00:30:01,356 Speaker 1: as the murders of those who followed, whether by the 399 00:30:01,436 --> 00:30:05,476 Speaker 1: hands of Jack the Ripper or some other malefactor, only 400 00:30:05,516 --> 00:30:09,436 Speaker 1: served to illustrate just how normal deadly violence against women 401 00:30:09,636 --> 00:30:13,756 Speaker 1: was in nineteenth century Whitechapel, and how the killers so 402 00:30:13,996 --> 00:30:19,276 Speaker 1: often escaped justice. I often get asked why I didn't 403 00:30:19,276 --> 00:30:22,876 Speaker 1: include Martha Tabram among the Ripper victims, or why I 404 00:30:22,916 --> 00:30:26,156 Speaker 1: didn't write a book called The Eleven. But writing a 405 00:30:26,156 --> 00:30:29,596 Speaker 1: book about Jack the Ripper, obsessing over the minute shy 406 00:30:29,676 --> 00:30:33,556 Speaker 1: of injuries and murder weapons was never my objective. I 407 00:30:33,676 --> 00:30:37,836 Speaker 1: wanted to study life, not the agonizing, terror filled moments 408 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,876 Speaker 1: of death, and The Five offered me a perfect data set. 409 00:30:42,676 --> 00:30:46,836 Speaker 1: The experiences of Polly Annie, Elizabeth Kate, and Mary Jane 410 00:30:47,316 --> 00:30:51,116 Speaker 1: were quite simply the experiences of millions of Victorian women. 411 00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:55,876 Speaker 1: They fell in love, injured, childbirth and the deaths of parents. 412 00:30:56,396 --> 00:31:01,436 Speaker 1: They argued with their siblings. They wept, they dreamed, they hurt, 413 00:31:02,116 --> 00:31:06,436 Speaker 1: and they enjoyed small triumphs. The courses of their lives 414 00:31:06,476 --> 00:31:10,876 Speaker 1: mirrored that of so many others, and yet their lives 415 00:31:10,916 --> 00:31:14,876 Speaker 1: were so singular in the ways they ended. Jack the 416 00:31:14,956 --> 00:31:18,436 Speaker 1: Ripper will never be caught, but justice can be restored 417 00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:22,716 Speaker 1: when we remember their names and learn their stories. They 418 00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:26,436 Speaker 1: don't need to be forgotten or to remain silent any longer. 419 00:31:27,476 --> 00:31:31,436 Speaker 1: So please come with me. I can't wait to introduce 420 00:31:31,476 --> 00:31:52,716 Speaker 1: you to them. Bad Women The Ripper Were Told is 421 00:31:52,716 --> 00:31:55,916 Speaker 1: brought to you by Pushkin Industries and me Hallie Rubbinhold, 422 00:31:56,116 --> 00:31:58,876 Speaker 1: and is based on my book The Five. It was 423 00:31:58,956 --> 00:32:01,596 Speaker 1: produced and co written by Ryan Dilley and Alice Fines, 424 00:32:01,836 --> 00:32:05,276 Speaker 1: with help from Pete Norton. Pascal Wise Sound designed and 425 00:32:05,316 --> 00:32:09,316 Speaker 1: mixed the show and composed all the original music. Also 426 00:32:09,356 --> 00:32:13,596 Speaker 1: heard the voice talents of Soul Boyer, Melanie Gutridge, Gemma Saunders, 427 00:32:13,596 --> 00:32:16,956 Speaker 1: and rufus Wright. The show also wouldn't have been possible 428 00:32:16,996 --> 00:32:20,956 Speaker 1: without the work of mil LaBelle, Jacob Weisberg, Jen Guera, 429 00:32:21,396 --> 00:32:26,956 Speaker 1: Heather Fane, Carlie Migliori, Maggie Taylor, Nicole Morano and Daniella 430 00:32:27,036 --> 00:32:30,916 Speaker 1: Lacan were special thanks to my agents Sarah Ballard and 431 00:32:30,996 --> 00:32:31,676 Speaker 1: Ellie Kron