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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now, and we, as always have a lot to

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Speaker 2: discuss with all of you. First of all, we're going

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Speaker 2: to be joined in just a little bit here bottom

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Speaker 2: of this hour, so about twenty minutes or so, by

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Speaker 2: Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. Looking forward to talking to

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Speaker 2: the governor about a lot of things happening right now,

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Speaker 2: the university issue of presidents, for example, who can't seem

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Speaker 2: to condemn the most outright anti Semitism, or at least

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Speaker 2: not in time to save their jobs. We will discuss that.

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Speaker 2: We'll turn to that story here in just a second.

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Speaker 2: We've also got jd Vance, Senator jd Vance of Ohio

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Speaker 2: joining which again much to discuss the future of the

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Speaker 2: Republican Party, the MAGA movement battle for the Senate twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. You know, I know we're heading into the

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Speaker 2: holidays here soon, but we're going to have a little

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Speaker 2: respite and then it's going to be full blown twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four from you know, the new year, all the

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Speaker 2: way through election day. Because this is yes a critical

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Speaker 2: election and a faceting election with things going on that

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Speaker 2: could affect this country for decades, and perhaps a lot

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Speaker 2: more than that to come. Many Rubicon's crossed, many things

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Speaker 2: happening that have never happened before, including the indictment four

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Speaker 2: times over by the leading presidential candidate. To that end,

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Speaker 2: I know Clay's going to want to break down this

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Speaker 2: des Moines Register poll out of Iowa with a dominant

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Speaker 2: lead for Donald Trump. And to be clear, this is

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Speaker 2: just what the polls are saying. This is not anyone

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Speaker 2: endorsing anyone or anything. But he's over fifty percent in

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Speaker 2: this poll. And we'll look at where everyone else stands

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Speaker 2: in that is it possible to make up the distance.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, play I am amazed at at

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Speaker 2: how absolutely and totally dominant in the news cycle right

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Speaker 2: now the story about a Harvard president doctor I believe

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Speaker 2: what she has a PhD in like sociology or something.

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Speaker 3: Do we know?

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Speaker 2: Probably yeah, I not, it's not a yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 2: She's not she's not a neural neural surgeon. But uh,

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Speaker 2: doctor Claudine Gay, the president of Harvard University, has come

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Speaker 2: under a lot of pressure for a possible resignation. We

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Speaker 2: all played for you last week, the Elisee stephanic Uh

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Speaker 2: cross examination, if you will, a various elite university presidents

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Speaker 2: m I, t U, Penn, Harvard and posing the question

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Speaker 2: is it a violation of your code of conduct? A

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Speaker 2: call for the genocide of the Jew? Maybe we'll go

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Speaker 2: back and refresh your memory with some of those soundbites

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Speaker 2: from last week, just so you can recall. But the

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Speaker 2: basics of it, Clay, as we know, was they were like, well,

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Speaker 2: it kind of depends. There's context. You Penn has president's

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Speaker 2: already resigned. Yeah, a lot of pressure on the MIT

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Speaker 2: president to resign. I think she's gonna go. The president

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Speaker 2: of Harvard University is female and black, and there is

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Speaker 2: a a different tone across much of the media about

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Speaker 2: whether she should actually resign as well. In fact, there

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Speaker 2: was a SNL not that SNL has anything anyone should watch,

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Speaker 2: but sketch over the weekend mocking Stephonic and defending these presidents.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it was horribly unfunny. And then

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Speaker 2: also you know, morally obtuse. On top of that, Clay,

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Speaker 2: what do you think happens here? Because I have a

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Speaker 2: bet with I have a bet with my brother as

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Speaker 1: So it depends, I think, on what the donors do,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately all of these universities serve at the behest

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Speaker 1: why McGill, the president of U Penn, ended up losing

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Speaker 1: Even though these universities have endowments of billions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: do think because the leader of Harvard is a black woman,

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Speaker 1: in this world where you don't get judged based on

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Speaker 4: That is the world we live in right now.

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Speaker 1: My big issue, though, buck, even if they all got fired,

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Speaker 1: instead of actually committing to a content neutral policy to

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Speaker 1: as white, and so that's the real reason they aren't

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Speaker 4: Than it is today.

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Speaker 1: I actually, and maybe I'm in the minority here, I

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Speaker 4: The problem to me here is the hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: Because pen ranked I think, on the Fire Index for

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Speaker 1: forty eight out of two hundred and forty eight defending

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Speaker 1: free speech principles. So what they were doing here was

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Speaker 1: not actually defending free speech. They were illuminating their hypocrisy

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they see Jewish people as white.

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Speaker 1: And you can say whatever you want about a white

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Speaker 1: And what Jewish people are finding out is, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: we're not a preferred minority class, and so people can

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Speaker 2: I've been explaining this to friends of mine down here

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Speaker 2: it all starts to it all starts to click in

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Speaker 2: because it used to be the issue of the Jews,

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Speaker 2: and and and also obviously, if you're a leftist, you

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Speaker 2: in America now because of the left's race obsession, it

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Speaker 2: and you know, we always say it, but that's not

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Speaker 2: even an accurate representation of the Jewish people and who

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Speaker 2: You know, there are Jews from Iraq, there are Jews

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Speaker 2: from Ethiopia. But okay, Clay, I so my I took

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Speaker 2: I do not think that she will go. I do

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Speaker 2: not think she'll be forced out to, you know, to

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Speaker 2: resign or be fired by the board. She's the first,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure she's the first black female

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Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely one, definitely one that that's why

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Speaker 1: she got the job, let's be honest, Definitely one of

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Speaker 2: And so it's a huge you know, in the eyes

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how they'll retreat on this issue,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the invincibility, the invulnerable ability professionally

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a whole thing Chris Rufo has you know,

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Speaker 2: she of her disinsissertation. Yeah, not, you know, and pleet

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Speaker 2: gray area plagiarism of you didn't change the words enough

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Speaker 2: other academic, if that were true, you'd be finished, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Stanford the Stanford president just got fired

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's through the heart President of Harvard is

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Speaker 2: to be clear, doctor Gay's thesis, or rather her academic discipline.

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Speaker 2: I guess that it is. I do not know. I

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Speaker 2: Can someone say, oh, it's in government, okay? In government?

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Speaker 2: just say, you know, you could kind of just coast

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Speaker 2: things true of any any of the humanity, just ones maclay.

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Speaker 4: It's way easier to catch now, you know.

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Speaker 2: Catching plagiarism now is a whole thing that nobody was

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Speaker 2: going to go through your You don't think about that.

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Speaker 2: How could how could somebody know? And so I think

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Speaker 2: But I think your more fundamental point, Clay is a

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Speaker 2: critical one, which is you can either have campus college

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Speaker 2: speech codes that don't allow for quote, hate speech across

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Setting the

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Speaker 4: Is it durable? Is it real?

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Speaker 1: If it is, Buck, it means basically this race is over.

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Speaker 2: I don't see how there's any certainly there's no easy

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Speaker 2: de Santis, appreciate you making the time for us, sir.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well thanks for having me. You know, I'm in

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Speaker 2: Governor Santias, first of all, could have said it better

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Speaker 3: look underneath it, you know there's only two candidates that

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Speaker 3: conservatives would be willing to support, Donald Trump and me.

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Speaker 3: None of the other candidates, like Nicky Haley can get

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Speaker 3: support from conservatives, and ultimately, to win. To be a

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Speaker 3: Republican nominee, you know, you got to do well with Republicans,

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Speaker 3: and you got to do well with those who consider

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Speaker 3: themselves conservative Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's been taking shots at you for a while.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got to cut I want to play

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Speaker 1: for you. But you debated Gavin Newsom a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, both Buck and myself thought you absolutely mocked

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Speaker 1: the floor with him. And then I thought you had

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Speaker 1: a really good debate last week in Tuscaloosa, although it

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Speaker 1: was probably salt in the wounds since you didn't think

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Speaker 1: Alabama should have been in that you had to go there.

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Speaker 2: Clay didn't even think Newson was charming. He was telling

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Speaker 2: him to button the shirt up. He was not a

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Speaker 2: fan at all.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought, I thought, you've even made Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom seem un charming. And I thought, you know, even

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Speaker 1: the wine Moms were probably a little bit upset with

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Speaker 1: his performance. But but Donald Trump came out, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've heard this, and said that he thought

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Speaker 1: Newsome won the debate.

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Speaker 4: Here is that cut, I believe we have. I wanted

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Speaker 4: to play it for you.

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Speaker 2: You saw Gavin Newsom with no facts. He beat the

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Speaker 2: hell out of Rona sanctimonious the other night, and he

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Speaker 2: had no facts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that and then also I know you've been

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Speaker 1: Trump said that going in debating Hillary was incredibly brave

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Speaker 1: of him after the viral Access Hollywood tape. And then

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Speaker 1: also I saw where Trump said that you and Fauci

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Speaker 1: were boys, which yeah, I mean I bet that here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think your Christmas card list we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of here.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Govin.

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Speaker 3: See some of this because these are things we could

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Speaker 3: hash out in the debate if Trump was willing to debate.

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Speaker 3: But first on the Newsome stuff. No Republican in the

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Speaker 3: country thinks that that Newsom on that debate that was

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Speaker 3: it was very clear his wife came in and stopped

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Speaker 3: it because we wanted to continue debating. She stopped it.

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Speaker 3: People recognize it, even a lot of Democrats have recognized it.

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Speaker 3: But why does Trump's then all of a sudden, no

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Speaker 3: matter what happens, he's going to trash it. And he's

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Speaker 3: even willing to side with Gavin Newsom over that. That's

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Speaker 3: not how you build a sustainable movement that will fix

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Speaker 3: this country. You should want to see a good conservative

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Speaker 3: governors do well and other officeholders do well, regardless of

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Speaker 3: whether they're endorsing you or supporting you, were running against you.

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Speaker 3: That new some and those guys they're the enemy. You

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Speaker 3: don't side with them. And I think one of the

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Speaker 3: low moments for Trump and that Newsom debate was when

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Speaker 3: Newsom was citing Trump to attack me for being pro life.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think people in Iowa who saw that,

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Speaker 3: you know, that would be very very bracing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, it's the March for Life. In January of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, he gave a speech saying, you know, every

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Speaker 3: life is a gift from God. Unborn children are made

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Speaker 3: in the image of God. There needs to be legal protections.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what he said. And then now he

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Speaker 3: attacks pro life protections as being a terrible, terrible thing,

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Speaker 3: and people like Newsome are weaponizing that against now on Fauci.

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Speaker 3: That's just a total lie. I mean, you guys have

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Speaker 3: followed what we did. We fought Fauci tooth and nail.

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Speaker 3: I remember June of twenty twenty, when we started to

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Speaker 3: get a COVID wave. He was saying Florida needed to

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Speaker 3: shut down. We held strong. He said Florida shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: schools open. We held strong. And look, I know it's

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Speaker 3: sensitive for Trump because if you look at his presidency,

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Speaker 3: the low point was him turning over the reins to

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Speaker 3: Fauci during COVID. He should have fired him. He shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have had him there to begin with, but certainly after

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Speaker 3: the first few months. It was obvious that this guy

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Speaker 3: was totally out of control, and yet they let him

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Speaker 3: do that. And he even gave Fauci an award on

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Speaker 3: his last day in office for Operation Warp Speed. And then,

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Speaker 3: in terms of the comments he made the other night

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Speaker 3: was really bizarre. He claimed that a general came up

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Speaker 3: to him and said that the bravest thing the general

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Speaker 3: had ever seen was Trump debating Hillary after the Access

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Speaker 3: Hollywood tape, even though he's seen soldiers make the ultimate

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Speaker 3: sacrifice in battle. I don't believe that a general actually

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Speaker 3: said that to him. I think he was saying that

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Speaker 3: to to try to add some color. But I obviously,

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Speaker 3: as a veteran, just disagree with that debating is the

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Speaker 3: bare minimum that you do as a candidate. It's certainly

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Speaker 3: not brave to show up to debate. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we're now in a situation where there's going to be

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Speaker 3: I think a debate in Iowa that only Trump, me

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Speaker 3: and Haley would qualify for. You know, I've said I'll

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Speaker 3: show up. We'll see if the other two show up,

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Speaker 3: but I think you should show up.

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Speaker 2: You think that if Trump were to come in second

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Speaker 2: in Iowa, would he feel compelled to debate because there's

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Speaker 2: one after that as well.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think as much as I think he should debate,

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Speaker 3: and as much as I think, you know, it shows

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Speaker 3: a lack of confidence that he won't, I understand why

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Speaker 3: he's not. I mean, I think that he is in

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Speaker 3: he's living in an ecosystem where he's been able to

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Speaker 3: kind of ride through. He's obviously very well known. He's

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Speaker 3: got the corporate media that want him to be nominated,

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Speaker 3: which is a huge change from how they treated him

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Speaker 3: as president. Now they're doing differently because I think that

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Speaker 3: they think they can turn the tables as we get

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Speaker 3: into the summer and really really turn the screws on him.

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Speaker 3: I think I think the more Republicans think about it,

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Speaker 3: I think they're coming to that conclusion. I've seen this

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Speaker 3: going for very, very long, So I actually understand why

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Speaker 3: he's why he's not debating. He won't have to answer questions,

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Speaker 3: and look, I'm happy to answer questions about my record.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud of what we've done. We've delivered huge things

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Speaker 3: in Florida. Trump should be proud about some of the

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Speaker 3: things he did, but he also should answer questions about

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Speaker 3: about Fauci, about COVID, about all the spending. He should

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Speaker 3: answer questions about operation and warp speed. You know, he

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Speaker 3: said warp speed saved one hundred million lives. That is

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Speaker 3: just not true. We've seen I know you guys have

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Speaker 3: covered a lot of the problems with this, and that's

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Speaker 3: one of the things about going forward. The next president

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Speaker 3: needs to bring a reckoning to all these medical agencies

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Speaker 3: in the federal government. They hurt this country, they lied

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Speaker 3: to this country, and they will do it again if

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Speaker 3: we let them get away with it.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you said about

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Speaker 1: your Gavin Newsom debate, because I don't know that I've

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Speaker 1: heard it so Gavin Newsom's wife, because the way it

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Speaker 1: ended for people out there who have forgotten, Sean Handedy

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Speaker 1: said hey, let's keep going. He goes to commercial break,

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Speaker 1: then he comes back and says, hey, both the parties

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Speaker 1: have decided actually that they're not going to continue, and

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Speaker 1: then Sean Hannity continued with his show. So you're saying

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's wife basically like it was like Rocky she

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Speaker 1: threw the towel in and said, hey, we got to

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Speaker 1: get we got to get We're out, We're done with this.

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Speaker 4: Like what was that experience.

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Speaker 3: We were standing at the podiums. He said, you guys

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Speaker 3: want to go. I'm like, that's fine, and I guess

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Speaker 3: we had already gone over the allotted ninety minutes. But

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Speaker 3: it was fun. And that was pretty shortly after I

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Speaker 3: did the San Francisco poop map and showed that to everybody,

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Speaker 3: and so that obviously was not a good moment for him.

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Speaker 3: And so then we go to commercial break and then

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Speaker 3: there was a woman that came out and she said,

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Speaker 3: hard stop, hard stop, it's over. It's over. I didn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily know who it was at the time, but then

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Speaker 3: come to find out that you know that it was

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Speaker 3: his wife. That they didn't want to continue with the debate.

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Speaker 3: So I was one hundred percent willing to continue with

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Speaker 3: the debate. They didn't want to do it, but I

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Speaker 3: think it was important to do the debate because one,

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Speaker 3: they're likely not going to run Biden if if it

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Speaker 3: doesn't look good for Biden, Newsom was kind of a

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Speaker 3: guy waiting in the wings. I'm not sure after the

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Speaker 3: debate that that's someone that they may want to go with,

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Speaker 3: but they're going to go with somebody that's going to

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Speaker 3: be younger. And we just got to be prepared for

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Speaker 3: that as Republicans. And you know, I've always said that

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Speaker 3: the problem with these Democrats is whoever runs by knewso

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Speaker 3: had to had to hug Biden. We both Sean and

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Speaker 3: I made him hug Biden. He said Biden gets an

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Speaker 3: A plus great economy. All that we all know that's

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Speaker 3: not true. But if he would be the candidate, he

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Speaker 3: would be he would own all of Biden's policies. Then

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Speaker 3: he would have to own San Francisco, in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: in California, in the Exodus, so in that resent. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot of baggage to be able to take into

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Speaker 3: to an election season. And I don't care how slick

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Speaker 3: you are. I don't care how much of a snake

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Speaker 3: oil salesman you are. Those facts do matter.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask Over, said, it's more to let

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Speaker 2: you go. We're about to hit a hard break here.

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Speaker 2: But is Gavin Newsome friendly to you when you're not

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Speaker 2: on camera or is it is it kind of more

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Speaker 2: real than that?

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Speaker 3: If you get my drift, you know it was honestly,

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Speaker 3: you know, we shook hands, we exchanged pleasantries. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: anything like okay, well, now in the commercial breaks. We

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Speaker 3: weren't necessarily chat ing words in these Republican debates. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to to Christy or the Zach or whoever

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Speaker 3: in the commercial breaks we were we weren't saying anything

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Speaker 3: during the commercial.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever do you ever feel like like you're

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Speaker 2: back at you know, back like TJ High School and

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Speaker 2: you have to separate the students when Vivek and Nikki

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Speaker 2: Haley go after each other there, it gets pretty dead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what I mean. I think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the last debate, you know, Nicky was not

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Speaker 3: providing very good responses, and I think the more and

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Speaker 3: more people have found out about are the less confidence

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Speaker 3: they they've had in or with some of that. But

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Speaker 3: you know, the interesting thing about the Newsom debate too,

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Speaker 3: it was just Hannity sitting there, Gavin Me and then

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Speaker 3: like the film crew, there was no other human being

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Speaker 3: in that little room. And that was at Newsom's insistence.

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Speaker 3: He would not debate if there was an audience, and

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Speaker 3: that was one of the things they insisted on. And

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Speaker 3: I think it's because he knows he would have gotten

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Speaker 3: booed if there was an audience, because it's one thing

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Speaker 3: to take a liberal position. But it's one thing to

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Speaker 3: say say things that are not true. I was in

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Speaker 3: Sue Center, Iowa the other day. I had a gentleman

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Speaker 3: come up to me and he just pointed at me,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, you did good against Newsom. He's like,

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Speaker 3: nobody believes that California has lower taxes than Florida. Nobody

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Speaker 3: believe that, and it's true. And he was trying to

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Speaker 3: say things that we know aren't true. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: know California has got a problem with homelessness and crime

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Speaker 3: and all these other things. And so it's one thing

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Speaker 3: to try to put lipstick on a pig. It's another

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Speaker 3: thing to try to act like reality doesn't even exist.

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Speaker 1: Florida Governor Ron de Santis ten seconds here. If it's

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Speaker 1: not Newsome, If you think Biden's out, who's the nominee

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Speaker 1: going to be?

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Speaker 3: Look, I would probably say Harris will muscle into it.

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Speaker 3: But I think you would have Pritzker, Buddha Jeedge, Elizabeth Warren.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd all be scramming for it.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, appreciate it, keep up the good work in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Apologize to your son on Florida State because that was

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Speaker 1: a hit in the solar plexus there, I know.

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Speaker 3: Take care, guys, Bye bye, thank you well.

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Speaker 1: Do that's Florida Governor Ronda Santis will be back. Break

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Speaker 1: that down, take some of your calls. Eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: two A two two eight a two. Next, keep out

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Speaker 1: with the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay and

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Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: let you guys react to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 4: Top of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two

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Speaker 1: uh with the Des Moines Register. Poll out Buck, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen.

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Speaker 4: The story.

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Speaker 1: I saw the story citing anonymous sources that Gavin Newsom's

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Speaker 1: own wife walked in and said, nope, the debate is over. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of married men out there like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't overrule the wife either, But my goodness, if

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Speaker 1: you're in a debate and your wife says nope, it's

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Speaker 1: over and ain't a sign that it went well, I'll

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Speaker 1: just put it out that way, and I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that story before.

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Speaker 4: That to me is fascinating. You're married, Buck.

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Speaker 1: If you were in debate and your wife came out

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Speaker 1: during a commercial break and she was like, we're done,

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Speaker 1: I probably would listen to her.

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Speaker 4: I've been married almost twenty years.

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Speaker 1: You don't necessarily make a lot of no honey, you know,

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Speaker 1: you get out of here. But the fact that she

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Speaker 4: This is not a sign that things went well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a strong debate for Gavin Newsom

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