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Speaker 1: the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels and Nate Newton.

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Speaker 1: What's doing on across the seas? It ain't nothing getting nothing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're back. We're back again for another episode Tuesday, Hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Boys. That's a live look at the to

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Speaker 1: Tito's Championship Plaza outside in front of the Ford Center.

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Speaker 1: What the weather is mild today? I looked, h oh

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Speaker 1: here it isn't poppable. My app finally today high of

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Speaker 1: the weather's the weather is turning. The grass is getting greening.

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Speaker 1: April showers bring May flowers. We are without our homeboy.

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Speaker 1: Uh Nate Newton. He's on the road again, big time

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Speaker 1: in US again and Boulder. I cann't go see you

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Speaker 1: see he's getting a job up there. You know what

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Speaker 1: so much? You know what I'm starting to feel that.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel like, you know, the facility, it

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Speaker 1: ain't hard to fund. Deon said, I'm packing my luggage

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Speaker 1: and it's Louis. Nate's not a carry on. He's more

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Speaker 1: of a you know what I'm saying, You got you

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Speaker 1: gotta check that lugging. That might be a little beside.

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Speaker 1: You might have to pay a little extra for Nates luggage,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, unless you like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of those Admiral Club type people and they get

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Speaker 1: you two bags for free. But Nates and Boulder Hill

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Speaker 1: call in maybe second segment, he said, if practice was

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Speaker 1: over there, if spring practice right now is up there,

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Speaker 1: so that offensive line better be good next year. He's

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Speaker 1: working a little job. But nonetheless, my boy Chris is

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Speaker 1: in the back from me, the senior editor. He has

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Speaker 1: some he has some goodies today that he'll broadcast. Yes,

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Speaker 1: senior editor and one hell of a dude, Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 1: I am Jesse Holly. Together we make Hanging with the

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Speaker 1: Boy the sports talk equivalent of Breil. People feel us

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Speaker 1: when we speak. This segment is brought to you by Wingstock,

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Speaker 1: where Flavor gets It's wings Chris, Kurt how's your mentals? Man?

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Speaker 1: How's your dentals? I haven't asked that in a while. Good.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little tired, to be honest, but overall, you know,

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Speaker 1: glad to have this man night early mornings. Yeah. Actually,

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Speaker 1: my wife flew back into town and she had a

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Speaker 1: late flag guy in late so welcome home. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: you go, there you go, welcome home. About you, Chris Man,

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Speaker 1: how's your mentals? How's your dent man? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was mister mom last night. My wife's

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Speaker 1: out of town. She went to the Taylor Swift concertwn.

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Speaker 1: We went to the Taylor Swift concert on Saturday. Ses.

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Speaker 1: stage is pretty amazing. Three hours. Yeah. We we had

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Speaker 1: up going on. Yeah. We gotta leave with like four

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Speaker 1: songs left. Wow, that sucks. All right, Kurt, you got

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Speaker 1: some You got some goodies over there? May what you got? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: chrisp you can popped this up. Our official twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three UM Draft Guide is out now you see yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: got all the scattering ports more than ever. Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: did a great job breaking that down. Uh, five hundred

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Speaker 1: players listed, so uh, you know it's Cowboys Draft. You

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Speaker 1: should do it. The cow Boys were here, Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: print or digital Dallas Cowboy. He's tired. Yeah, it's probably

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Speaker 1: why Yeah, yeah that's what she said. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: of into this next deal. The thirty visits, ye are beginning,

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Speaker 1: thirty visits. Thirty visits are. So each NFL team gets

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Speaker 1: really putting on the workout, they'll may have some things,

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Speaker 1: but like, hey, i'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you all these times, especially the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna put on the show and and

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Speaker 1: kind of hey, I want to see you throw out route,

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Speaker 1: it our way. So you know, that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But one guy who is Palmer has made a career

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Speaker 1: out of what you're talking about right now, after his

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Speaker 1: career with doing this for quarterbacks. Not Carson. It's Jordan. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, the brother like Carson does it too, does he?

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Speaker 1: I think he did? I know Jordan. I know Jordan

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Speaker 1: is like the court like a quarterback guru coach that

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Speaker 1: he does that with a lot of the quarterbacks at

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Speaker 1: the combine and stuff like that. Fair enough, Carson has

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. Carson has a lot of brands.

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Speaker 1: He's Golf and Carson Golf. Guys are like, I'll look

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Speaker 1: it up. It's Palm. It's Jordan Palmer. Carson's brother. Is

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Speaker 1: Jordan his little brother? Yeah. Yeah, He's coaching all these

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Speaker 1: guys to what to say in the meeting. Correct. This

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Speaker 1: is what they're going to ask you. This is let's

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Speaker 1: let's go over what you're gonna say. They're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you what your best game was, what's your best game,

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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna ask you about those plays you know,

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Speaker 1: and they'll go through tape. Ye. So that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But one guy who's already in the building, who's already

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Speaker 1: been consummated, who's already been paid handsomely for his services,

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Speaker 1: is one Dak Prescott, and he recently came out and

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Speaker 1: said he felt more urgency now after the rosters, a

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Speaker 1: coaching change. What do you think he means by that, Kurt, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that, like he said that, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: realized that, you know, NFL is not for long, and

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Speaker 1: that his window maybe you know, he's maybe he's entering

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Speaker 1: the backside of his career, you know, I mean might,

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Speaker 1: He's probably not there yet, but he's getting closer to

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. So you know, he's seeing his coordinator leave,

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Speaker 1: who he you know, admitted that he didn't necessarily think

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Speaker 1: change is needed. He's seeing his quarterbacks coach change, which

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Speaker 1: his quarterback coach is now what two or three years

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Speaker 1: older than him and was not as good a quarterback

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Speaker 1: as Dak was, and so it kind of makes you wonder.

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Speaker 1: And he saw, you know, the best friend on the

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Speaker 1: team leave, and so things are changing and he's that's

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Speaker 1: not to say that the people they brought in with

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and some others aren't aren't going to make

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Speaker 1: for a powerful offense. But I think there's this you know,

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Speaker 1: some of us just talk I'm gonna work harder to

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Speaker 1: do better. You know, we've heard that off there a

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Speaker 1: lot of games. I don't know if Dak could work

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Speaker 1: any harder or do you know that kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: because he's he's a guy that puts in the effort,

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Speaker 1: I think. But it does make you wonder when he

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Speaker 1: says he feels this sense of urgency, does that bring

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Speaker 1: more stress and pressure to him? Like I got to

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Speaker 1: win now? Because if I don't, who's out the door next?

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Speaker 1: Is it me? Or is it you know? Am I

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Speaker 1: going to be one of those the next Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: or Danny White who was real good but didn't win

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Speaker 1: a you know, title or whatever. I think the biggest

485
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Speaker 1: thing when it comes to athletes of any sport, anytime

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Speaker 1: there's change, it's uncomfortable. Athletes learn and develop how to

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Speaker 1: perform in uncomfortable situations. But athletes don't like change in

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Speaker 1: their situation. Does that make sense? When you change my coordinators,

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Speaker 1: when you change my coaches, when you change the person

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Speaker 1: all around me, When those things begin to change, especially

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Speaker 1: those that changed at a rapid rate, you know, every year,

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Speaker 1: every two years, every you know, there's this level of

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Speaker 1: comfortability where my quarterback coach, he and I understand certain things.

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Speaker 1: My offers to coordinated. He and I understand certain things

495
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Speaker 1: depending on what your head coaches, if he's offensively or defensively,

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Speaker 1: we understand certain things. And I think now looking at Dak,

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Speaker 1: you know he's been through three quarterback coaches. He had waited,

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Speaker 1: he had John Kit and then they had Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: right right, and then so now Nus Smier. So that's four. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is your second head coach. Yeah, so all of

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Speaker 1: these changes are happening. You lose your best friend and

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Speaker 1: Z because he's now longer with the Cowboys. Um, you're

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Speaker 1: adding more pieces into the mix. You're trying to get

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Speaker 1: guys on the same page. The roster is changing around you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's the biggest thing at time when you're in it,

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Speaker 1: even even at even at the veteran level, you look

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Speaker 1: up and you go and wait a second. The guys

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Speaker 1: that I came in here with, the guys who I

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Speaker 1: kind of started this thing with, they're slowly fading away.

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Speaker 1: And I think Dak sees the writing on the wall,

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Speaker 1: Like Dak understands the business. I think if he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: he's far behind. He understands the business side of things now.

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Speaker 1: And he knows now that Mike McCarthy's on the clock. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he knows that. Yeah. And now if Mike is on

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Speaker 1: the clock, and for any reason that Mike is not

516
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Speaker 1: here next year, well guess what the new guy that

517
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Speaker 1: comes in, I have no ties to you, right, so

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Speaker 1: we're starting over again. So now do you learn another

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Speaker 1: whole offense because whatever this other guy may come and

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Speaker 1: he may have a completely different offense, and that that

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Speaker 1: depending on who that guy. They may say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't want him to my quarterback anymore. And if

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys hadn't paid him yet or extended him yet,

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Speaker 1: and there's a conversation, all right, what is what is

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Speaker 1: your succession plan, new coach? Yeah, well what is your

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Speaker 1: Do you want a new guy? Do you do we

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Speaker 1: want to reset this thing? Because yeah, that'll bring us

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Speaker 1: more cap space and more ability to do different things,

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Speaker 1: because we will either draft a quarterback or find one

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Speaker 1: that's a veteran that we're not paying fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: to pro sason. So I think that understands that and

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Speaker 1: sees that. Yeah, So when you heard him say he

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Speaker 1: feels that urgency, did did you take that as a positive,

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Speaker 1: like he's really going an effort or did you see

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Speaker 1: that as the urgency being negative? You know, I hate

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Speaker 1: riding offense. I do. I don't like I don't like

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Speaker 1: the rash that it leaves. I think it's both. I

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Speaker 1: really do think it's Bob. I think he understands now

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Speaker 1: that there's no time like the present. And I think

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Speaker 1: he saw the way that the people begin to like

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Speaker 1: as a whole turn on him last year, like when

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Speaker 1: things got ugly, and and this league, the NFL is

543
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: not for long, like it's literally not for long. So

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Speaker 1: while we think he's gonna be here forever, you go

545
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Speaker 1: to have another season like you had last year, and

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Speaker 1: the narrative changes completely. The narrative changes completely because they'll say,

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Speaker 1: well we got to some more help, got another receiver.

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Speaker 1: That narrative will completely change. But I also think there's

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Speaker 1: a level of pressure that we saw him put on

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Speaker 1: this self last year. And you heard him saying week

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Speaker 1: in and week out, you know, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: overcompensate for something. It's a hard position because you ask

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Speaker 1: these guys after every game, well, why, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: can you do? I'm gonna get better. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: or that. You know, it's it's it's you can't say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you could, but it's not. The players speak that.

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Speaker 1: They're all toadd and it's just it's it's sort of

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back on our last second

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Speaker 1: calls Nate and says, hey, Nate, we got practice where

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Speaker 1: you at? Well? Um, actually I'm up in Montana right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: just h But if anybody will get there on time,

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Speaker 1: it'll be Nate. Like he gets like he drives, like

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Speaker 1: were you at oh like listen, what time the practice

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Speaker 1: problem practices? In four hours? All right? Cool, I'll be

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Speaker 1: there leaving Mississippi right now. Like Nate's probably the one

638
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: that will get Nate's probably the one that will get

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Speaker 1: there on time, no matter where he's at in his

640
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: in his transition's probably you know, as just as running

641
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Speaker 1: not running buddy, as in they're out running around. But

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Speaker 1: just you know, Dion probably doesn't know many people up there.

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00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Nate's great friend. He probably just come on up hanging

644
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Speaker 1: with me, give me something to do here. I feel

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Speaker 1: like Dion these people. Yeah, I guess he don't know

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Speaker 1: any stranger. He don't he not know any strangers. Man,

647
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: he don't know any strangers. But uh, talking about talent, right,

648
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Nate Newton and Dean saying it's two talented dudes, both

649
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: of them on different sides of the ball, of course,

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: Dion prime time being one of, if not arguingly, the

651
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: best cornerback to ever. That's a crazy thing to say,

652
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Speaker 1: like when you think about it in a vacuum to

653
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Speaker 1: be the best ever at a position in a league

654
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Speaker 1: that produces nothing but the best of the best. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's a like, it just hit me and it kind

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Speaker 1: of even gave me goose bumps to be considered arguably

657
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Speaker 1: the best ever at a position in a league full

658
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: of people who are considered the best in the world.

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Speaker 1: She's yeah, that's impressive. That's that's that's the man. No

660
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: wonder not like that. I see why is Dion Like

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I see why he can act the way he acts

662
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: because and not a bad way, but a confident way.

663
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: You're the best ever at a position in the league

664
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Speaker 1: that that produces nothing but the best of the best.

665
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: But for the Cowboys offensively defensively, what side of the

666
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: ball do you think is more talented? And you can

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: tell you can tweat me at mister forth DeLong um

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Speaker 1: your response and I'll kind of go back and forth

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Speaker 1: with you, guys want it throughout today. But what side

670
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Speaker 1: of the ball offensively defensively do you think is more talented?

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00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: Let's take out the two bests. Let's say quarterback offensively right,

672
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: like we're always gonna say quarterback offensively is best? And no,

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Speaker 1: what no, because let's do this let's let's compare them. Yeah, okay,

674
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott overall, you would say, with the best player offensively, Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's the most important player also importantly, but pound from

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Speaker 1: pound and you know best, you know, I don't know

677
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Speaker 1: if he would even determine, like Zach Martin is a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player, you know, um Sednee Lamb is

679
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: a you know, he's one of the standout receivers in

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Speaker 1: this league. But Dak is up there. I think he's

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Speaker 1: still So would you put who would you put against Micah?

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00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: Because MICA's overall the best. MICA's are going to be

683
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: top five best player defensively in the league, right, right,

684
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Speaker 1: So he's number one on our defense. Yeah, it's I

685
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: guess you'd have to because the only player that can

686
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Speaker 1: have that same kind of impact it is probably that.

687
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: It's probably that. And I would even say if you

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Speaker 1: compare those two, not the level of importance, but if

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Speaker 1: you just compare those two in a in a in

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Speaker 1: a head to head, I'm gonna say Micah like I

691
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: would say Micah mica Is, I'm gonna say just as important.

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Speaker 1: He's important, but the quarterback is always the most important.

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: But defensively, he's I mean, there's he's he's got got it.

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Speaker 1: You need him, He's gotta have a good So who

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Speaker 1: would you give the advantage to between those two? Micah

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Speaker 1: Mica Uber two? Yeah, who about you, Chris, I'd say

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Speaker 1: Mica Mica all right, so that's one for the defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell about talent wise, right, because this is the most

699
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Speaker 1: talented side of the ball. So, um, would you say,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, next player up for Trayvon Diggs? Yeah, CD,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably goes CD. Really yeah, I think so okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, So Chris, that's a tough one. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: just to be Devil's advocate or the opposite, I'll to say,

704
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: Digs down already, he's going to Diggs. No, absolutely not really.

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Speaker 1: I'm a receiver, pick a wide receiver whatever. Michael Ever

706
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: taught me that a long time ago. You picked the receiver,

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00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: You absolutely picked the receiver. So yeah, I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I do I think upside like talent wise that Yeah,

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00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: but CD Lamb can do more on a consistent basis

710
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Speaker 1: of what we saw him doing the last two years

711
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Speaker 1: than what Treyvon Diggs can do at his position. And

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Speaker 1: I do think that CD could be more impactful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Treyvon is obviously the top cornerback, but I

714
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Speaker 1: think CD's gonna be able to change the more of

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Speaker 1: a game changer. Let's compare. Let's compare our two newcomers.

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Speaker 1: So this team Stefan Gilmore and Brandon Cooks. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I would say historically it would be Gilmore, but I

718
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: would think maybe now because of age, it would be Cooks.

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Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. Stefan Gilmore does have a defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year underneath his best. He has one of those.

721
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Speaker 1: But Brandon Cooks has six one thousand yards seat with

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Speaker 1: like four different teams or something. You think about his career,

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Speaker 1: like in his career, he has like for eight thousand

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Speaker 1: receiving yards in his career, and that puts him in

725
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Speaker 1: the conversation with some people who the Odell Beckhams of

726
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Speaker 1: the World's you know, those type of people when you

727
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Speaker 1: look at the first couple of years of the career,

728
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Speaker 1: like it's historic, right, It's it's really historic. Now he

729
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: hasn't had the fanfare of those type of guys. I

730
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Speaker 1: think it's like Lary Fitzgerald and Beckham pro bowler, which

731
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Speaker 1: shocked me. And that's the thing is that his numbers.

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Speaker 1: But then again, you know, Brandon Cooks kind of have that. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a bad player on a bad NBA team,

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Speaker 1: like the one player can really have a lot of

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Speaker 1: numbers because the team is just so bad. Yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, he averages twenty five and eight, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're like thirteen and forty, you know what I'm

738
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Speaker 1: saying Like that overall records, Like Brandon Cooks sometimes like

739
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Speaker 1: he is the only option in those bad football teams.

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Speaker 1: But he's been a part of some good football teams

741
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Speaker 1: too as well. Um, two super Bowls, right, yeah, so

742
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Speaker 1: let's take it. I think I think Cooks just mainly

743
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Speaker 1: because of the age factor. I think Chris I'm gonna, um,

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00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think I think Gallimore is

745
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: is is Gilmore? Excuse me, Gilmore. Gilmore's the top like

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00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: five cornerback in the league in my opinion. So I

747
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: mean I would take him. Okay, nice, All right. Let

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00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: me see if Nate's calling on let's go Interior, let's

749
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Speaker 1: go let's go Tank, Zack Martin, I think Zach yeah. Zac.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you ask me, yeah, he just is.

751
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Many question marks are on that offensive line. He's he's

752
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: got to be the anchor in there. If he doesn't,

753
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: it could be a tough season. Zack's another one, right, Like,

754
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Zack's another one of those Dion Senders type players where

755
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: you'll go down in history as being one of the

756
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: best offensive guards. Yeah, at least in Cowboy history, but

757
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: probably overall in the NFL. I would think, so, what's

758
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: he got more Pro Bowls than off side something like that? Ridiculous. Again,

759
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: that's one of the I think it was more all

760
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: Pros than holding car Like, we take that kind of

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00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: stuff for granted. That someone is just so good all

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00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: the time amongst the greats. They think about everybody that

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00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: he's had to face in his time in this league,

764
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: and year in and year out, season end, season out,

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: he's regarded as, if not the best, one of the best,

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Speaker 1: top two or three in the league. That's just you

767
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: know that that that's that's man, that's a that's a

768
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: that's that's wild. That's wild, but it is you know,

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Speaker 1: we can go name for name for name, but I

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00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: think overall overall, right now, I think this defense as

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: a whole as a whole, and that's weird for me

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Speaker 1: say that I think this defense overall right now is

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00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: a more talented group, more put together group right now

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: than the offense. Yeah, I think I would agree with you.

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00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: But um, I think though that if the offense, if

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Speaker 1: you're talking to healthy offense, if um Terren Smith does

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00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: his thing, steel comes back good, if Michael Gallop returns

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00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: to form, if it's a lot of if a lot

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00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: of ifs, say a lot, if they are all healthy.

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00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I think I was offense, we all be drunk and

781
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: as many gifts as you just stayed, we'd be filthy.

782
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: Draw But you got you know, future Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: at guard, possible Hall of Famer at tackle, a Pro

784
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Speaker 1: Bowl center, a Pro Bowl running back, a Pro Bowl receiver,

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00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: a top Tennish quarterback, another receiver who six thousand yard seasons.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's it's there, but you know

787
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: where it's there on paper, where we see it on

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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah. So the Zach Martin stat was five

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Speaker 1: holding penalties in eight years and he has eight all pros.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to say, is holding penalty last

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Speaker 1: year wasn't a holding calls? No, he's had three declined

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Speaker 1: over It's crazy like even when he gets hold like,

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00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: holy yeah, the ref you're wrong. Yeah, Zach's not wrong,

794
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: You're wrong. But like, you know, defensively, you look up

795
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Speaker 1: and you say, Okay, Stefan Gilmour Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: You know he has a bunch of Pro Bowls, Chairmon Diggs,

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Speaker 1: he has you know, he has some Pro Bowls, First Teams,

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Speaker 1: All Pro. Michael Parson will will probably if he continues

799
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Speaker 1: on his trajectory, we'll be regarded as one of the

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Speaker 1: best defensive players at the end of this thing has

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: ever played. You know. So there's there's still some players.

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00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Tank is a guy who's had some some Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, so there's there's players defensively as well

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00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: that even Lady vander esh has a Pro Bowl his belt.

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00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a bunch of guys, the best

806
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: safety group in the league maybe three headed Monster with

807
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Curse Hooker and Um Wilson Wilson. So I'm just saying,

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00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, this is the fun

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Speaker 1: part about the OFFICI we can just say that, we

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Speaker 1: can just say but soon enough we will be doing

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Speaker 1: the past will come on. But right now, this is

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Speaker 1: the end of our show. So what we're going to

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00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: be doing is getting off so we got stuff to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got stuff to do. Life is busy afternoon, right,

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Speaker 1: you're going, Yeah, I do. I'm going to speak in Aubrey. Yeah,

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00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: but I got a Manny and Petty though first, okay,

817
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: all right, priorities, priorities. I gotta go see my girl Nikki.

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Speaker 1: I gotta Betty and Penny, so that go south to

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Speaker 1: go north because Aubrey's north to here, and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm not great with directions. I have to

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Speaker 1: go to Lewisville. So what is that west west? I

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Speaker 1: gotta go west, then north, so west north. Listen, I

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Speaker 1: put miles on that. I love my car. She's gonna

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Speaker 1: break down on me soon, but I love her. She's great,

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Speaker 1: she's good. Forty three miles to the gallon. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, Let's get it all right, Let's get

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Speaker 1: up out of here. Kurt Nate, wherever you are, we

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Speaker 1: will love you. Chris, and it back for Audio Jazz.

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Speaker 1: keeping us seeing him his live and most importantly, thank

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Speaker 1: you the people, the fans, the ones that keep us

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