1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm the line with us from his home, the general 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: manager of the Buffalo Bills, Brandon being Hello, Brandon, how 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: are you doing today? I'm doing well, John? How about you? Good? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Good dude. I know you did a news conference with 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: the Buffalo media about an hour or so ago, and 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: I want to start out by you said that next Monday, 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna make a special announcement of a game, a 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of a contest rather for Bills fans to engage 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: in and help with the coronavirus relief. What can you 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: tell us about that? Yeah, So I'm gonna donate, uh, 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, a sizeable fund, and I'm also gonna have 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to lay it out there yet, but 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: some things related to the draft, Uh, some opportunities for 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: any fans that would would contribute to this United Way 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: fund to help all of our people in need right 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: now in the Buffalo community. And it's going to a 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: great cause. And the more I understood about it, the 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: more fired up I was to do something like this, 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: trying to offer some experiences that would never be offered. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: You know right now, you know whether it's yeah, I'm 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: not gonna give it, I'm about to give away and 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that because I'm gonna say 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: from Monday. So, uh, Derek Boyco and our community relations people, 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, Michelle Roberts and Gretchen and that whole crew 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: have done a great job of working behind the scenes 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: so that I could keep my eyes on the draft stuff. 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: They've been doing a lot of legwork with the United 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Way to get this set up so that it's easy 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: for our fans to to do this. So I think 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: sometime Monday morning it'll be out there, and I really 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: hope that we'll be able to raise a lot of 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: money to help a lot of these people in need. Yeah, 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: we look forward to that. Steve, what do you got Yeah, 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you. I wanted to ask 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: you more about, you know, some of the stuff you've 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: already talked about to the media this morning. But the 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: first question was people want to know about how the 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Diggs thing came about. The Stefan Diggs trade came about. 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: You said something interesting to me, and I think I 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: heard it right. Did you inquire about Diggs during the 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: regular season, and if you did, you know how did 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: it find come about? Yeah? I inquired about several receivers. 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: Um during the regular season, and uh, some of them 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: got traded and to other teams, and some of them didn't. 45 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: And it was one of those where either the price 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: was too high or you know, sometimes people wanted to 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: trade them to a different conference. And um, so sometimes 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: you sometimes you win, sometimes you don't. But uh, none 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: of them worked out for us. We finished the season 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: with with kind of the crew we started with. Um, 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: but some of that recon that we did on digs 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: per se. At that time, Minnesota was just adamant that. 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: And I don't blame them. They had a good roster 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and that wasn't a player they were willing to remove. 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I don't know all the reasons 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: why they were willing to do it. Um, you know, 57 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: I know they needed some cap space and and he has, 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, a sizeable contract, and um, they're trying to 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: make some moves for their roster and and you know, 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: I know things had not always been perfect with him 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: there and so we just decided, you know, at that time, 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: based on the opportunities of what we could add in 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: free agency, first the opportunities of the draft, that this 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: was the best player. He's a young player in his 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: prime and just felt like it was the right fit. 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: I wonder one more, one more question, well maybe more 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: than one question on the digs trade printing. But I 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: think you said this that the price you paid in 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: terms of draft picks, first round, fifth round, sixth round 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: this year, fourth round next year, that's kind of what 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: it would have cost to move up in the draft 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: to get through where you could get more of a 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: sure thing at wide receiver this year in the draft. 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that it was common? Now? What 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I was saying was I would have had to give 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: more compensation to get to get higher to get the 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: player or players that I thought, you know, without me 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: giving away who those would be. In the draft. Yeah, 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to have to get 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: higher than than picks eighteen or nineteen to do that. 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: And so and then you have to have a fine, 82 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: You have to find a trade partner that's also willing 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: to do it. There are teams ahead of us that 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: are in need of receiver, and still we know the transition. 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned this on the media call. Receiver 86 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: probably has one of the highest fail factors of guys 87 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: that do really great in college, but some of them 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: don't always translate in a lot of it is not 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: physical skill set, it's it's it's mental and the preparation 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: that you have to do. So this was a proven commodity, 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's in his prime, and I just felt 92 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: in my mind, this is us moving up from twenty 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: two to eighteen or nineteen in the draft, and this 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: is who we're selecting. I have one more Stephan Digg's question. 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: And you were asked this, I think by Vic Grucci 96 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: about Digg's twenty nineteen campaign. He for some reason just 97 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: wasn't right with Minnesota and complained a little bit. I'm 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: sure you guys did intensive research into what the nature 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: of his problem was and and his character. Right, He's 100 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: not going to be a problem when he's with the 101 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, right, Yeah, I mean you don't expect that. Listen. 102 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't have a crystal ball or anything. And sometimes 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: I've been around players before and not everything was perfect. 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, I was around a guy named Steve Smith 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: for a long time, and Steve Smith is, you know, 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player, and and you know, some 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: of the things that make them good on the field. 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes they maybe say things in the heat of the moment. 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Just I know Steve's been around guys like that in 110 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: his day and there's a fine line. But the one 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to emphasize on there, I think it's 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a misnomer out there, John, is 113 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: that Sean and I are looking for choir boys, and 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: that's that's not the case. We're looking for competitive guys, 115 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: professionals that want to be great at their craft. And 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I think you've even seen some things. The thing that 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: we found out about Stefan is this guy's a hard worker, 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: He's passionate, he wants to do well. Maybe there's been 119 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: some times where his passion has gone outside the lines 120 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: or you know, or something like that. And we all grow, 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: we all mature. There's things I did in my twenties that, uh, 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't perfect either. Maybe I said some 123 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: things I shouldn't have said. And so I believe where 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: he's at that this situation, in talking to his agent 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: through the process, that this will be a great fit 126 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: for him. No, just let me go on record as 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: saying I never did anything I regret mine, So I 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: gotta I got a lump three guys together for you 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of give me a rundown on three and Vernon Butler, 130 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson, Mario Addison. You lost Shack lost, and you 131 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: lost Jordan Phillips. You kind of all thought you might 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: do that. But these three guys you brought in. When 133 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: I went over and looked at what they had done 134 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: in years past, you almost, statistically, if everything was the same, 135 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: you almost got better with these three guys after you 136 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: lost two really good players in Shack and Jordan. Yeah, 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, time will tell you know. Mario 138 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: is definitely a proven commodity. And I was explaining on 139 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: there that this is a guy I have a great 140 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: affinity for a guy who is a self made man. 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean he was, you know, undrafted and bounced around 142 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: and out of Troy smaller college, and he made himself. 143 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I honestly signed this guy off the Redskins practice squad 144 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: because watching him at his size run down on kickoffs, 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy could be develop into a fourth 146 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: defensive end and be, you know, a great player on 147 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: special teams. And that's what he started out as, and 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: then he learned how to be a rusher. And Eric 149 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Washington and we talked about really helped develop this young man, 150 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: and he is a pros pro I know, you know. 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: One of the comparisons, which is funny. You know, he 152 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: brings a smile when you guys will see him. He 153 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: brings a smile in a passion. I don't know if 154 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: you remember Joe Webb when we had him a couple 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: of years ago, And it's funny they're both from the 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: same hometown. But I don't know if what's what's in 157 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the water there. But anyway, he's just again, he's not flashy, 158 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: he's not a big name, but when you turn on 159 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: the tape, Steve, this guy his producing sacks, pressures, hits, 160 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: the things that we want out of our defensive ends. 161 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: With Brenda Mean, the Bill's general manager, we're gonna get 162 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the draft questions at the moment, but we're kind of 163 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: recapping free agency here. Brendan, and you had interesting things 164 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: to say about Vernon Butler, former first round pick when 165 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: you were at Carolina. Um that it seemed like that 166 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: factored into it, and also his relationship with Eric Washington. 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Maybe Washington got the best out of him in recent 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: years at Carolina. Yeah, I think you know, Uh, in 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: fairness to Vernon, you know, we did draft him in 170 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: the first round, and like anybody, sometimes guys don't don't 171 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: translate as well. He played at Louisiana Tech, a smaller college, 172 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: and when guys play at small college, you want to 173 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: see him dominate at that level. And you did see 174 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: him dominate, and that's why we made that move. It 175 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: was the it was the year after we were coming 176 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: off the Super Bowl. We drafted him I think thirty first. 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: So he was playing behind Star and Kawan Short, you 178 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: know who, two very good players themselves, and so he 179 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: was playing in that rotation and not starting, and he 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: never really solidified himself as a starter even after Star left. 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: But this year watching the film, it looked like after 182 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: about the third or fourth game, it looked like the 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: light came on for him and things started to translate. 184 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: The physical skill set is there. You watch this guy 185 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: goes through bags or you know, the drills when we're 186 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: a training camp. He watched this guy he's got all 187 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: can flip his hips, he can play the three tech 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: the one tech um. Not a lot of guys can 189 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: do both. And he does have that skill set. It's 190 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: just you know, I think maturity, learning the game, learning 191 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: his strengths, and then you know, again, sometimes the light 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: comes on later. I kind of compared it to I 193 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: hope what you know, Jordan Phillips, he was a second 194 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: round pick. The light didn't come on and right away, 195 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe everything wasn't perfect for him in Miami. 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: He came here and really honed in on what he 197 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: needed to do, and I thought, you know, really set 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: himself up to get an pay day. And again, we 199 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: would have loved to have kept Jordan, but we also 200 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: he had earned that right and excited for him. You know, 201 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: I called him after you know, he got that that 202 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: contract with Arizon and wish him nothing but the best. Yeah, 203 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you. He earned their right and you 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: guys were good enough to let him do it. And And 205 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that will speak well to other players who 206 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: want to come here and have on those prove it deals. 207 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: If you're you're not gonna like tie him up or 208 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: be in their face. If they earned something, you're gonna 209 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: make sure they get it. It was a really great 210 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: gesture on your guys part to leave, to have a 211 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: guy like Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson leave on great terms. 212 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they had they enjoyed it here um and 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: they got everything they were hoping for, even though it 214 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: was with another team. Um, I gotta ask you one 215 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: thing about Quintin Jefferson. It's something that Bills fans probably 216 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: are not familiar with a guy who plays on the 217 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: West coast in Seattle and the other conference. But Quentin, 218 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: what does Quintin Jefferson bring and how did he catch 219 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: your eye? Yeah? He brings versatility. Um, And again I 220 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: talked about familiarity. You know, I can see what's on film, 221 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: but I don't know the player, what's inside. And Dan 222 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Morgan really did a great job of explaining who Quintin 223 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Jefferson is and was on the field off the field, 224 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: and just talked about how passionate he is and what 225 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: a competitor and again, a pro, not somebody that's gonna 226 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: need guide us. This guy knows what it looks like. 227 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: He is versatile as well. You know, Quinton, I think 228 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: could even come out. He could go outside and play 229 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: some base end, left left defensive end in our system. 230 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Also with the versatility to play the three tech spots. 231 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: So you know how we love position versatility, whether it's 232 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: the old line, the D line, and I think that's 233 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: what we got in adding Vernon and Quinton two different 234 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: vers Quinton can go from three tech to outside, Vernon 235 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: can go from three tech to the one tech and 236 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: so position flex versatility, and guys who maybe had not 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: for whatever reason put together a year that would get 238 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: them to pay day that Jordan and some of these 239 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: other guys got at the d tackle position. But that 240 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: come in here and we're gonna let you have a 241 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: chance to prove it. We rotate eight nine guys up front. 242 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Some teams don't rotate as much as we do. We 243 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: just that's the philosophy week we go with, and so 244 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I think that's the selling point that you're going to 245 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: get your rush chances here if you're doing what you're 246 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing in practice and in games. Relying 247 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: with Brandon being the Bills general manager, Hey Brandon one, 248 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: I guess triend that Steve and I made note of 249 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and it's mostly the Bills, 250 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: but other teams as well. It seems like free agents 251 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: are signing shorter deals and maybe you guys lead the 252 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: league in bringing in guys on one year contracts now 253 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: free agents. What's going on there is that is that 254 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: in fact, the trend around'll lead you think, um, I 255 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: think it can be teamed to team. Also, it can 256 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: be where you're at in your cap or how you 257 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: how you want to manage your cap. You know, not 258 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: everybody manages the way we do, and vice versa. You know, 259 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: with us, you know, this year we did have some 260 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: some one. A lot of times, if it's if it's 261 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: a player who thinks that they are worth more than 262 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: what the market is bearing. I'm if I'm dealing with 263 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a player and let's say this player in his agent 264 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: feel like he belongs in the eight million dollar range, 265 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: but teams are really offering in the four to five 266 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: million dollars range, and he can't get a team to 267 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: commit to where he sees him. The agent may say, hey, 268 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: let's do a one year deal at you know five, 269 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: and let's go prove it and then let him go 270 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: back to the market. So sometimes it's player agent driven. 271 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: They're not getting the market. And sometimes it's it's our 272 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to say, hey, listen, we can't sign you to 273 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: a long term, but we have a great system that 274 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: will showcase your talent for one or two years and 275 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: get you back to the market. And it's a win win. 276 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: We're not tying up long term dollars cap wise, and 277 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: they're able to re establish their value. Maybe they've had 278 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: an injury, maybe they've played in a system that didn't 279 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: showcase their talent. Maybe they've were drafted under a different 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: regime and new coach came in and didn't fit well. 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons. But I think sometimes 282 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: it can be team driven, John, and sometimes it can 283 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: be player and agent driven. I gotta ask you, Brandon, 284 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: you're on the cusp. Now we haven't seen you. You 285 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: haven't had to do this yet as the general manager 286 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: of the Bills. You've got guys you've drafted that have 287 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: played extremely well, and now you've got to start resign him. 288 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: You didn't resign Quentin Spain. Jordan Porry was one of 289 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the first free agents that Sean McDermott brought in. You 290 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: resigned him. But now you've got Tredavious in line, You've 291 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: got josh Is coming up, You've got Tremaine on the horizon. 292 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: All these guys on the horizon and you got to 293 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: line them up. You started by resigning Quintin Spain and 294 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: Jordan por It. Tell us about the philosophy and how 295 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: you're lining these guys up so that the guys that 296 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: are near and dear to you are going to stay here. Yeah, 297 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, we want to reward our own we do. 298 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: And as I said this on the media called Steve 299 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: in a perfect world, you'd love to every guy that 300 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: does it the way you want. You'd love to keep 301 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: them all. Economics doesn't allow you to do that, because 302 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: my job is to keep one eye on today and 303 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: one on tomorrow. What does it look like for some 304 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: of these guys you mentioned, you know, Josh Tremaine and 305 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: guys that were not allowed by league rules to extend yet. 306 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: But then Jordan Poor you know, Jordan was signed you know, 307 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: by Sean right before I got here, and you know 308 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: he played three good years for us, and so we 309 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: wanted to come up again. There are other guys that 310 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: we've wanted to extend that it didn't happen because it's 311 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: got to be a win win, it's got to be Uh. 312 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: We put a value on The agent does his job 313 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: to put a value based on what he thinks the 314 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: comps are. And if we can come to a consensus 315 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: on what that value is, that's the best deals and 316 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: so sometimes it's a matter of opinion, and it's not 317 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: that they're wrong or we're wrong, it's just, uh, it's 318 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: not the right fit for the right time. And sometimes 319 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: that happens and guys go to free agency, or they 320 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and we signed him back, like Quentin Spain, or they 321 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: go to free agency like Shack Jordan and Kevin and 322 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: they find a better opportunity. So again, the names you mentioned, 323 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, and on the media call, you know, Matt Milano, 324 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. Some of those guys are able, and we 325 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: will look at those at the right time. But again, 326 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: it takes two to tango and get a deal done. 327 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I want our fans and media to know, 328 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: just because we don't sign a guy back doesn't mean 329 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: that we didn't want them. It just maybe meant that 330 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to explore free agency or we couldn't get 331 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: on the same page at what their value was like. 332 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: But Brandon, mean, as we have a few minutes left here, Brandon, normally, 333 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: in a normal year, this time of year would be 334 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: extremely busy for you and your player personnel staff, right 335 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: with thirty visits by college prospects, with pro days, all 336 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: kinds of visits. How are you filling in those gaps 337 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: now that you can't do that this year. Yeah, we're 338 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: just doing it different. Uh, they're they're very busy. We're 339 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: doing a lot of zoom calls with with our scouts 340 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: and coaches and and trying to connect with these college 341 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: players through the various means of you know, FaceTime, zooms, whatever, 342 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, video conference app you you got, and trying 343 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: to fill in as many holes and medically, you know, 344 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: my training staff, Nate Brewski and his crew are trying 345 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: to research some of the guys that didn't go to 346 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: the combine or maybe that would have been coming to 347 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: the medical rechecks. Where are they at can trying to 348 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe get some imaging of you know, if a guy 349 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: has a foot or something a shoulder, so that we 350 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: have the best data that we can. Is it perfect, No, John, 351 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: But you know, nobody's dealing in a perfect world right now, 352 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: whether it's football or not. With all we're dealing with, 353 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: but a lot still going. We're just having to restructure 354 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: our draft meetings. Like right now, every day I'm meeting 355 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: with my college scouts on these type of zoom calls, 356 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: not as much group film as we would do in 357 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: our draft room. We're kind of having to divvy up 358 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: and separate and then get back on and collaborate through 359 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: these conference calls. What do you not know about how 360 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: it's going to work on drafted? You know, anything about 361 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: what you're going to be allowed to do, who's going 362 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: to be in the room where you can meet it. 363 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: What do you not know that you that you normally 364 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: take for granted? Yeah, you know right now, the league 365 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: is still volleying ideas. You know, last week there was 366 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: some talk that we need to find a remote site 367 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: do to state laws about not being able to go 368 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: to the facility because essential non essential workers. So you know, 369 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: we have an, you know, an option if we're not 370 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: allowed to use the facility. Now what we're waiting on, 371 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: Steve is it was floated the other day through some 372 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: calls in the league that maybe you would be able 373 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: to have up to ten people everybody space six feet apart. 374 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: But I'm not even sure that's going to happen right 375 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: now to me, And now it sounds like it's going 376 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: to be less than ten people at a remote site 377 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: or or a certain number of people at our facility 378 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: like normal. But we got a great staff Dan Evans 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: in our IT department is unbelievable and he's already got 380 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: us set up for both options. Still finalizing some things 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: once we know, but we're gonna be ready again, Stevie, 382 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: look at what all the crisis around the world with 383 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: what doctors and everybody's dealing with, like this is this 384 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: is nothing. I kind of roll my eyes when I 385 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: read some of these comments of people stressed about how 386 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: am I gonna be ready for the draft or this 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: and that when what's going on in the medical and 388 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the people on the front lines. Last question for me, Brandon, 389 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: how much contact are you allowed to have and what 390 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: do you know about how it's going this offseason for 391 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. We all saw him take a big step 392 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: forward in his development year one to year two, and 393 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: we all kind of hope and pray and kind of 394 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: expect him to take another big step in his development. 395 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: How much contacts is the team allowed to have with 396 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: him demonitoring what he's doing the offseason and how much 397 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: feedback if you got from him about what he is doing. Yeah, 398 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, um, we're not really at this point allowed 399 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: to get into football with him. But Josh is great. 400 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Josh will just randomly call. He'll face He'll usually FaceTime me, 401 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: and he'll be somewhere. Sometimes he's in a car with 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: his girlfriend Brittany or um, he's somewhere else. It's usually 403 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: he usually does it the most inopportunity time for me. 404 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: But it's great, and so he's just he's in a 405 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: great spot. Despite this, I think, like everybody, he would 406 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: love to be out there training with as many people 407 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: you can. That's not an option where he's at. I 408 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: don't know specifically daily what he's doing, but I have 409 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: no doubt he's He was training I know that with 410 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer and his guys, and I know they were 411 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: going through the routine. I don't know today what he's 412 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: doing or what the rules are in California, but I've 413 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: just encouraged him and all our guys to stay safe, 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: stay healthy. That's first and foremost. You know, above um, 415 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for the season. One more thing. Brandon, 416 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: Steve and I have talked a lot, even the last 417 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: couple of days. There's no shortage of theories about what 418 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: the NFL should look like, and what the season should 419 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: look like, where games should be played, should fans be allowed, etc. 420 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: And we kind of Steve and I came to the realization, 421 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: I think yesterday, it's still and fortunately for the NFL, 422 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: it's still too early to worry about that, right. There 423 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: are a bigger issue to be resolved first, and there's 424 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: still time for the NFL to figure out how to 425 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: have a season if in fact they can't have a season. 426 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: You agree, Yeah, yeah, John, I just think there's so 427 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: many unknowns. I mean, you know, even I try not 428 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: to do the news too much because you know, it 429 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: can just be so so tough to watch and so 430 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: negative at times. But I think there's so many unknowns 431 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: and the part the things that you read out there, 432 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: they're learning every day about this and trying to find, 433 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: you know, chures and vaccines and things like that. Um, 434 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't have any idea what July first is going 435 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: to look like, you know, much less much less stember first. 436 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just going about it and encouraged. And Sean 437 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: has done a great job too of encouraging our staff. 438 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Let's just let's focus on the now. Obviously, we have 439 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: the draft in front of us. Let's let's let's put 440 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: all our uh, you know, our stuff focused on that, 441 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: and then when we get to May. You know, we'll 442 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: see where things are. We'll see what the league is 443 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: put out there. You know. I think at some point 444 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: we'll probably be able to u maybe have some type 445 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: of virtual offseason with the guys, maybe send them some 446 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: workouts or something. I don't I think that's being discussed, 447 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: but that'll be next next, and then we'll see what 448 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: the summer looks like. Hopefully, you know, pray for the 449 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: Good Lord that this thing will start going in the 450 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: right direction and that we can all get back to 451 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: somewhat of a normal, normal life again. John Yep, Brandon, 452 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. It's great talking to you. It's 453 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: great seeing you too. We're doing this on Skype, and 454 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: it's it's good to see you. I hope you're all 455 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: well and your family stay safe and healthy. Noh, same 456 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: to you, you guys, all to Steve and to all 457 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: the listsers out there, and I know they love that 458 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: you guys are still finding a way to do your 459 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: show again. I know my dad listens back home, so 460 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: I know you got at least one listener there. But uh, 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: to all the Bills fans out there, I just want 462 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: to tell everybody to follow the guidelines that are that 463 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: are out there and stay safe, and we look forward 464 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: to getting past it.