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Only the best people work on holidays. 46 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Dan and the Dants are off what we do clouds, 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: But the Dan Patrick Show cantinues straight hunt into twenty twenty. 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Who here has their house decorated? Yeah, we got all 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: kinds of special things that we have, like around the 50 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: door and can you bring in a pail of flakes? Yeah, 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: I guess I could pick you. He brace in a 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: company and he decorated his house for Chris. I think 53 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm less lazy more just I just know my limitations 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: on a kids can't hang some something of and another 55 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: man can. That's correct. But the playoffs are approaching and 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: College bull season is here from the Mercedes Ben Studios 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Oh yeah, 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: it is the Dan Patrick Show, but this is obviously 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: not Dan Patrick. I am Chris Russard alongside my partner 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Rod Parker, and we are the odd couple filling in 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: for Dan Patrick. We're honored to do that on this holiday, 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: during this holiday week, and we have got a great 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: show for you guys today. Later on in the show, 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: you also get the chance to call in and voice 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: your opinions with us eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: sixty three sixty nine. And we will be joined in 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of this hour by Hugh Jackson, the former 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: NFL coach. Great time to talk to him. Obviously. It's 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the Monday after the regular season. They call it Black Monday. 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: A lot of guys will be getting the pink slips already, 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: has happened to Freddie Kitchens and Chris pat Rummer just 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: got fired in New York for the jar to the 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: just reported our NFL network. He all right, there it is. 74 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: So now you got two jobs open. Probably a few 75 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: more gonna happen as well. A lot of talk, a 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: lot to talk to. NFL wise, you just heard the 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: voice of my man, Rod Parker. What's happening, man? How 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing great. I don't know about you. 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, they call us Black Monday, but Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Sunday's always black for me. You don't know about me. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: You know both of us, right, it is no doubt 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: about it. But it is Black Monday in the NFL, 83 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: and yes, well, guys will start losing their jobs most 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: deserving soul. A lot of disappointment in the NFL this year, Chris, 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that and a lot of stuff. 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So we're definitely honored privilege to feeling for Damn Patrick 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: and the Danas. Well, you mentioned disappointment in the NFL, 88 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: and obviously some of the immediate storylines that come to mind, 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: or the Dallas Cowboys and Cleveland Browns, who most people 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: had both of them making the playoffs. Some even had 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: both of those teams in the Super Bowl, and yet 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: they don't even make the postseason. But there are other 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: disappointments as well, and one of them is still playing, 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: and that would be the New England Patriots. Now maybe 95 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: they'll write the ship and have some great unforeseen postseason 96 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: run that nobody hardly expects. But right now, coming off 97 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: a bad loss to the Miami Dolphins in Foxborough, no less, 98 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: this is a game rob that they really needed to win. 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Obviously they were already in the playoffs. Obviously they already 100 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: had won the AFC East, but what was on the 101 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: line was the first round playoff. By all you had 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: to do was beat the Miami Dolphins, who actually credit them, 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: they played fairly well for the second half of the season. 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: They were terrible a start to the year. They were 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: to punch them back. People were putting up forty and 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: fifty points against them. That was really, really bad. And 107 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: check this out right over the second half of the season, 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: guess what their record was, four and four, five and four. Well, 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: that's a little more than the second half. Butt that 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: nine games, five and four, It is amazing. And the 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: other the other team I saw, which was crazy to patch, 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: the Pats were four and four I think in that 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: last eight christ And remember they all started off people 114 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna be undefeated or whatever. That talk 115 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: was crazy even when they were winning the game, so 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: they weren't beating anybody. And the Jets, surprisingly, guess what 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: they finished in their last nine six and three. Yes, crazy, 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: still didn't make your playoff prediction any see. Did I 119 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: go there? Did I go down? You you wanted to? 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm good. The only reason to bring up the Jets today. 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm good on my other predictions and you know it. 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're working. See there you go. I mean, 123 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: was that not a prediction? Yes? It was alright, But 124 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: what about what about the say and slow your role 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: before you before you start talking like you Muhammed Ali. 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is you got Ravens to win the division? 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: I said, no, Pittsburgh. I said, um, what was the 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: other team in there? No Browns? And I also said 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys wouldn't make the playoffs. Those are some big 130 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: ones and a lot of people you just said it. 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: People were talking about the Cowboys and the Browns and 132 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you know what was gonna happen for those guys, and 133 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: none of it happened to both in the playoffs. Yeah, 134 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: it was very disappointed. But I agree with you though. 135 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: The Patriots and what they did yesterday at Foxborough to 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: lose that game and a must win seriously, like when 137 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: your playoff run to have a buy Chris, which they 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: would have, and then the home game it's huge, is huge, 139 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: and they gave it up in the final seconds of 140 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: the game to the to um Miami, so they have 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: to they have to play a wild card game against 142 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the Titans, and then they hit the laying some good football. 143 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: The Titans would be the team they got in the 144 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: wild that last wild card, spying the AFC. They run 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the ball like nobody's business, led by Derek him, led 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: the league in Russian. Uh, they're gonna be tough. Here's 147 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: how important, o' rob. You said it, how important it 148 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: was for the Patriots to win that game. Here's here 149 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: it is by the numbers, the New England Patriots. We 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: know they've reached nine Super Bowls. They've never reached the 151 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl, let alone won it, won any of their 152 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: six without a first round bye. So history tells us 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: they're done. History tells us they have no chance of 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: getting to the Super Bowl or winning it this year. 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: And if you believe the history right, And one more thing, 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady since two thousand and one, obviously that's the 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: start of his career, twenty seven and twenty and twenty 158 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: seven and seven in the playoffs when he has a 159 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: buye in, you know, buy seasons three and three without 160 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: the buy right, very protested right there. It says a 161 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: lot and I'm with you, so so you could act 162 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: like an a lot of Patriots fans, a lot of 163 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: guys were on Twitter and they were like, oh, you 164 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: can't count the Patriots out, and this and that and 165 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the only thing, Chris, you could draw off of their 166 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: history and act like what happened this year didn't matter. 167 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: But if you were just honest with looking at where 168 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: they were, what they did, you can't feel that good. 169 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: They won. Only they only beat one team with the 170 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: winning record. I believe one that when they beat Um 171 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: was that two weeks ago. I just forgot the team. 172 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: They had a nice win recently against who is that bill? 173 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: The Bill? That was the only team that they beat, 174 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: Bills twice. All right, then that's those their two wins, 175 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. But other than that, you go look 176 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: at who they beat and who they lost. They lost 177 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: to all the teams that are in the playoffs. Steelers 178 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: with Roethlisberger, right, that was early on in the first 179 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: game of the season, right, But if you look at 180 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: most of their wins, it all came again beat the Eagles, 181 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: and the Eagles finished eight and eight, nine and seven, 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: nine and seven. Where you get your math, No, I 183 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought your Patriots bias was no, no, no, 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: no two teams because you know why, because because the 185 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Eagles were bad all year. And when they beat them, 186 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: they weren't that good. But you're right, two teams, but 187 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm staying most of their ways. They piled up the 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: eight very well, got fat off a lot of bad 189 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: teams this year. And I know they lost to the 190 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs and they lost to a couple of the good teams. Right, 191 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: But but I just and if you look at Tom 192 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Brady and you look at this team, that defense yesterday, 193 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean you want to say you're on a bank 194 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: on the defense, on what they did. Get to the 195 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: irony of it, right, And that's a great point. You 196 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: said that they gave up like that's what they live for. 197 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Put them. Put it the game in the hands of 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: our defense. Right. Offense will do enough. And Brady, you know, 199 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: like you said, he didn't have a great gay game 200 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: or season by any stretch, but he does lead them. 201 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: They get the touchdown, they get the lead, right, only 202 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: gonnadud Is get a stop. Yep. And you you believe 203 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: in that defense. And they let Ryan Fitzpatrick who didn't 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: turn it into off And it wasn't Drew Brees, it 205 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: wasn't Lamar Jackson, it wasn't Patrick Mahomes, it was Ryan 206 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick that led the game when he drive at their 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: defense Constipe. So look, you hit it on the head. 208 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: There's there is no way. I can't imagine anyone outside 209 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: of that locker room feeling good about where the Patriots 210 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: are right now. I agree most diehard Patriots fans have 211 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: got to be scared. I get the sentiment, and I 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: would agree. I know you'll probably bury them, period, and 213 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe that they're going to make 214 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,479 Speaker 1: any type of long playoff run, except looking at their history. 215 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: But I will give them that respect. I don't think. Look, 216 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: they're not better than Baltimore, they're not better than Kansas City. 217 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: They may even get beat. I wouldn't be surprised if 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: they get beat by Tennessee. Wow. First, we're gonna stop 219 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: out there, Crystal, don't have I don't step out there. 220 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: Yeah we got a few days. Yeah, give me, give 221 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: me some time to think about it in Mariname. But 222 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: that would make sense though. Usually when it's all over, 223 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: it crashes like that, and that would be they lose 224 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: that game at home, have to play a wild card game, 225 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: and then they lose, and then people would finally say, okay, uh, 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: it's all over, you know what I mean, like like 227 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: this is nothing like what we were used to seeing 228 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: with the Patriots, and uh, I just don't think. I 229 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: think it's been a you know, a very long run. 230 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: We already know, but I don't think, Um, I just 231 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: don't see it. I'm with you when you when you 232 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: look at the other teams that they have to play there, 233 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: there are no cupcakes. There's no cupcakes. And Yancy has 234 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: gotten you know, it's pretty strong this year obviously. I mean, 235 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: like you said, at best, they're the third best team 236 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: and that's not gonna be good enough to get out 237 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: of even the second you know, the second round and 238 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: then on and they're on the road now, you know 239 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's the other part. It's just it's 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: just harder. And you said that they've ever made it, 241 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: they've never made it to the super Bowl when they've 242 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: had to go on the road, right, I But I 243 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. I understand their fans saying, look, 244 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: you can't count us out. I don't know what it 245 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: is one percent, five percent chance or whatever to get 246 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, but I do think you've got 247 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: to give at least leave that little bit of wiggle rule. 248 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, Chris the half some man, You 249 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: didn't I get it, because they don't. They there's nothing 250 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: we've seen on the field to make us think they 251 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: can make a run. Ask me if I think that 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Patriot's gonna get to the super Bowl. Are the Patriot's 253 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: gonna get to the super Bowl? No way, no how, 254 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: And you can book it Boston, New England booking that 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: Parker as Dwight Howard missing the free throw. There's certain 256 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: things in life that you come to expect. Chris, you 257 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: know it. I'm not buying it. And you know what 258 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not bragging. I'm not bragging. This is 259 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: proof of performance on Undisputed on FS one. Before the 260 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: season started, I made a big bet with Skip Bayless 261 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: who jumped at it? Who would right would jump at it? 262 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: I bet him that he that the Patriots would not 263 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: make it to the AFC Championship Game. Forget about making 264 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl or anything like. Chris I 265 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: said they wouldn't make it to the AFC Championship Game. 266 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna be right on that one. 267 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I do not believe it because now they gotta win 268 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: two games and I'm not sure that they can win 269 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: two games. You will be right on that one. But 270 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: how is that? How are you gonna brag about that? Why? 271 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: That's a big that's a big. Well, it's excited. They're 272 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: not gonna make it to the AFC title game when 273 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: normally hold on. Normally they got a forty two year 274 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: old quarterback. But if they would have done what they 275 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: normally do, a pro top one hundred, actually a tight 276 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: end in history, they lost them. But if they still 277 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: want no receivers, they still won twelve games, right, And 278 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: here's the other part. If they did Kansas City was 279 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: one team, Well you were. I don't think you thought 280 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore was that good, but you know, don't pick them 281 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: to win the division? Right? But I didn't. I didn't 282 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: know they were gonna be this good and knocked down 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: all the good teams. But my only point is, normally 284 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: that's a big bet. Only from this damnpoint, Normally they win, right, 285 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: have a first round by and they only have to 286 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: win one game to get to the AFC Championship Game. 287 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? So to say that 288 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: before the season start, you gotta give me an ounce 289 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: of credit I will give you love on the Ravens. 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: That's a great pick. And but I can't. I mean this, 291 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's that's that's that 292 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: far out there. Wow, forty two year old quarterback. Then 293 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: we talked about it on our show because I was like, 294 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: I didn't say they would make the FC Championship. I 295 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: would just say I just said, you got to give 296 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: him a shot. There's no way you write them off. No, 297 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you an ounce of you. Some of your 298 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: other predictions were better. Well, I had a custom all 299 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: out and we're gonna talk about there's so much stuff 300 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: going on with this, but I do believe, Uh, when 301 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: they lose in the playoffs, this will be the official 302 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: death of the Patriots dynasty. See that's where I am not. 303 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: We'll see what they do with Tom Brady. You know 304 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people think this is his last year. 305 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I think this is his last year. I really do. Uh. 306 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: If I were them, I wouldn't. I mean, unless you've 307 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: got a great option and we talk about it. You've 308 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: mentioned it all the time. You know, the Colts moved 309 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: on from Peyton Manning, but they had Andrew Luck. No, 310 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: I know, just moved on from Joe Montana, but they 311 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: had Steve Young. Unless you love jared'stid him that much. 312 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, could you go out If I can 313 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: go out and get a Teddy Bridgewater, that's not bad. 314 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: But here's what I would really be looking to do 315 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: if I'm the Patriots, because I don't I am Rob. 316 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be the end of 317 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: the dynasty. If I'm the Patriots, I go out and 318 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: get some better skilled position players. Because I've said it 319 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: all year long. Tom Brady is no longer good enough 320 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: to carry mediocre talent. They've asked him to do that 321 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: at the skill positions for his entire career essentially, you know, 322 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: barring when he had Randy Moss, he got grunk, but 323 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, they just filled in with mediocre 324 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: players at the skill position or you know, slightly above average, 325 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: and he's made the most out of him. He can't 326 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: do it anymore. At forty two, we saw right he can't. 327 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: So you either need to move on from Brady as 328 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: you suggest, or go get some top flight skill position 329 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: players one or the other. And if they get top 330 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: flight skill position players, I still think Brady can be 331 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: good enough for them to have another run towards the 332 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I just don't see that at all. I just, 333 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, like I think everybody always believes, Okay, well 334 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: he can just keep doing it, keep doing it. Father 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Time is undefeated. And if you watch Brady this year, 336 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't play at all. And if 337 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: for forty two is pretty amazing, Chris, it really is 338 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: that he's still out there, but he's not the same quarterback. 339 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: He just he just isn't And there's nothing wrong with that. 340 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: And I just don't see. Um yeah, I just don't see. 341 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: He's never made a Super Bowl appearance when they don't 342 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: have a first round by and that was when he 343 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: was younger. And now you're asking him to that at 344 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: forty two, and you're asking him to do it with 345 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: a defense that at home gave it up, you know 346 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: at the end where they really really needed that game. 347 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: That was a huge game for the Paths and they 348 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: weren't able to win it. I mean, if that game. 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: We talked about it last week on on our show, 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: um and I was saying that Miami always wins, seems 351 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: to win a game from them, but Chris is usually 352 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: down in Miami. So I wasn't feeling like the Dolphins 353 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: were gonna win that game because I was like, Patriots 354 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: have too much deluse it's in Foxborough, so I wasn't 355 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: buying it, you know what I mean, I really wasn't, 356 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: even though the Dolphins and I will always seem to 357 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: have their number, but this was a big loss for 358 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots and all over New England people cannot feel 359 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: good this morning. All right, Rod Parker's got more proclamations 360 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: to make, one being that Freddie Kitchen's got a raw 361 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: deal in the land. He'll explain. Next. 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And if you missed any of 396 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show celebrity interviews this week from the 397 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Mercedes AMG Man Cave, just go to the Dan Patrick 398 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: app where you can watch and listen from inside the 399 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Mercedes AMG Man Cave Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. All right, Rob, 400 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: we talked about the disappointing New England Patriots in the 401 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: first segment, but they still have life. Now I'm leaning 402 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: toward I'll make my official pick later in the week. 403 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards Tennessee, led by former Patriot Mike vrabel 404 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: As the head coach, pulling the upset. But we'll see. 405 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: But let's get to another team that was very disappointing 406 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: as well. But they aren't alive and that's the Cleveland Browns. 407 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: Six and ten lose to that hapless Cincinnati Bengals on 408 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: the last weekend of the season. I'm shocked to you, 409 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you picked them to make the playoffs. You 410 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: like what they did in the offseason, A lot of 411 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: people did. People in Cleveland were so excited, right, they 412 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: were finally they had all these players that had on 413 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: paper they had a young star quarterback or allegedly star quarterback. 414 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: They wind up getting O. B J from the Giants. 415 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: Everybody was like, while Kareem Hunt, who was a good 416 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: player in Kansas City, all this stuff. Chris, I'm not 417 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: hugely surprised, not shocked, obviously, Like you said, I picked 418 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: them to make the playoffs as a wild card. I 419 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: picked the Steelers to win that division, and shout out 420 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: to Mike Thomlon did a very good job with they 421 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: did with all the injuries and stuff, and yeah, Carousel 422 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: at quarterback. But yeah, I'm but I'm surprised because obviously, 423 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: again I thought they'd be one of the final six 424 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: teams standing in the AFC. But Rob, what I saw 425 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: with that team, it's just a straight up lack of maturity, 426 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: a straight up lack of maturity. And I said it 427 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: at points in the regular season. If this team gets 428 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: on a run, which they really never did, but if 429 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: they got on a run and won three or four 430 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: games straight, I could see them falling off because they 431 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to handle it. The success would go 432 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: to their head. I didn't like it. You and I've 433 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: talked about it on our show The Eye couple plenty 434 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: of times. We didn't like all the trash talk before 435 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: the season, the defensive back with Randall talking about, you know, 436 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be so good, people gonna think we're cheating 437 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: due so first, I mean really really it was it 438 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: was a joke and they were just from you saw 439 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: what happened with Miles Garrett hitting somebody over the head 440 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: with a helmet. I mean all you saw the O. 441 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: B J stuff, watch Gate, cleet Gate, weisor Gate, and 442 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: it was just week after we Baker Mayfield all his 443 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: comments and now you know this past weekend getting into 444 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: it with a fan not a huge deal, but still 445 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: it just speaks to the lack of maturity that was 446 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: on that football team and Rob I think that's a 447 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: big reason why they're not in the playoffs, no doubt 448 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: about it. And it's really easy Chris to look at 449 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens and put it all on him, okay, because 450 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: he was never a head coach, right it is. Don't 451 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: know that he didn't get fired. We said it early. 452 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchen is gone, and I don't have a problem 453 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: with him being fired, Chris, because he wasn't ready for 454 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: that job. Okay, but there's bigger fish to fry in Cleveland, 455 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: and the there's a story out there on NBC Sports 456 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: that Mike Florio, right Pro Football Talk at the quote 457 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: is John Dorsey's quote not completely safe in Cleveland, and Chris, 458 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: I think that that's fair and that John Dorsey is 459 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: the one who put this all together, Chris, So it's 460 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: easy to just blame the head coach. But let's be honest. 461 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Remember when they were interviewing coaches, John Dorsey was trying 462 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: to force Freddie Kitchens, who had started out as a 463 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: running backs coach there became the offensive coordinator. Right. They 464 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: had some success last year with Baker Mayfield, so they 465 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: wanted to keep him around to make sure that he 466 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: was involved, and they tried to force him, selling these 467 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: other proven coaches that they had to take Freddie Kitchens 468 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: as their offensive coordinator. And all those coaches Chris said, what, 469 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: no way, no how, I'm not doing that. I'm gonna 470 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: pick my own offensive coordinator, right, which is what most 471 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: coaches is gonna do. You're not gonna force and give 472 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: me my offensive coordinator. Who's your guys? Exactly? So what 473 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: happened They couldn't get anybody to take the job because 474 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens came with it. So John Dorsey gives Freddie 475 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: Kitchen the head coaching job of a team Chris with 476 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: those personalities right, and Baker Mayfield, O, b J just 477 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: all the people that were there. And I knew this 478 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: was gonna be a disaster. I told people this from 479 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: that that this. They weren't going to be able to 480 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: come together this quickly, not for a coach who hadn't 481 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: proven himself as a head coach, and with the cast 482 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: of characters. And when you look at the team to 483 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: wear it was put together, you could say, I'll look 484 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: at all the talent on paper, but I don't know 485 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: if that really worked together. That's why they struggled. So 486 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: John Dorsey to me, is just as much to blame 487 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: as Freddie Kitchens, Freddy Bathroom, whatever you want to call 488 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: him today. But if I'm the ownership in Cleveland, I 489 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: take a good long look at John Dorsey and I'll 490 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: say this right now, Chris, I would fire him along 491 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: with Kitchens. I really would. He might have and take 492 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: a look at the makeup of the team. They got 493 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: some talent, they probably gonna do some tweaks. Yes, I 494 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: would fire John Dorsey as well, because he's the one 495 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: who ultimately turned over the keys to the Mercedes to 496 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: a kid who just got there driving permit. And I 497 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: mean Freddy Kitchens as far as never being a head coach. Look, 498 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: I hear you in that. When you're six and ten 499 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: and you've got the history of the Cleveland Browns, No, 500 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: you can't leave any stone unturned, right, There's nobody safe. 501 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: So you have to look at everything. You are a 502 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: horrible franchise, exactly. You just had a disappointing season. So 503 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you in that, I look at everything, including 504 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: John Dorsey. However, at the end of the day, I 505 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: keep John Dorsey. And here's why. Unlike Freddy Kitchens, John 506 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Dorsey has a track record of getting it done. He does. 507 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: When he went to Kansas City rob they had been 508 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: two and fourteen the year before he got there, they 509 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: had made the playoffs one out of six seasons. And 510 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: he turns around immediately they become one of the top 511 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: teams in the league and then Cleveland from one in fifteen, 512 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: oh and sixteen and now seven and eight, seven, eight 513 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: and one, six and ten, So I would give him 514 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: another chance. But we're gonna let's get We'll get to 515 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: that later. Let's get to one of the great guys 516 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: to talk to today. One of the great guys in 517 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: the league, very well liked around the league, and contrary 518 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: to what some people say, did a very solid job 519 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: as a head coach in this league in Oakland and 520 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. It is former NFL coach Hugh Jackson. Hugh, 521 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Dan Patrick Show with Chris Brusar and 522 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Rob Parker. How are you doing good? Thanks for having me, 523 00:28:53,800 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: guys to this day. I mean, I feel bad for 524 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. Obviously, it's one of those jobs 525 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: where you know you can get fired publicly and all that. 526 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: But as a head coach, I mean, do you feel 527 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: for these guys and just know that a day like 528 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: today Black Monday? How tough is this on head coaches? Oh? 529 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean I do feel for him because 530 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: I know being one of thirty two is a tremendous accomplishment. 531 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: But when it's over, it doesn't just affect you. You know, 532 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: all the highs that you get that your family, your 533 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: friends and everybody that you're involved with feel when you 534 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: get the job, they also feel the lows when it's over. Hey, hey, Hugh, 535 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: you know we were just talking about the Cleveland's play 536 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and of course worked there and you were 537 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: the coach. But but I thought John Dorsey putting Freddy 538 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Kitchens in the spot that he was in where I 539 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: thought he wasn't ready yet, and he tried to basically 540 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: force him as the offensive coordinator on a couple of 541 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: guys who had interviewed for the job. Nobody was willing 542 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: to take it. How do you see that? Was Freddie 543 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: Kitchens prepared to be a coach of that team with 544 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: that those personalities. I thought he was put in a 545 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: tough spot. Well, you know, it's hard for me to 546 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: say because I don't know what was discussed or how 547 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: that was all brought about. Obviously, Freddie had been a 548 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: running back coach, had never been a coordinator, and hadn't 549 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: been a head coach. So I mean that is a 550 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: tough spot to be put in. I think there's a 551 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: progression to all of this. I think when you supersede 552 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: the progression. Sometimes things don't work out as well. So 553 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that that's the reason why it 554 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: happened that way. I don't have that answer, but I 555 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: just do know that, you know, obviously it didn't work. 556 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: There's a tremendous, tremendous talent base there now, so whoever 557 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: gets his job to have an opportunity to coach a 558 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: lot of good players. Q As Roy said, you were 559 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and look under the president ownership Jimmy Hasling. 560 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: They have now had six head coaches since that ownership 561 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: took over seven years ago. Wow, they've had twelve since 562 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: the Browns returned to NFL in nineteen ninety nine, and 563 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: as we know, none of them have had success. From 564 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: some of the big names to the unknown, nobody's been 565 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: able to turn it around. What do you think, really 566 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: at the route is the problem there in Cleveland? Well, 567 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: obviously you know I was there, So how you want 568 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: to say that when you look at it, there's been 569 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: as I've said before as if so I'm not saying 570 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: something I haven't said before. There's been a lot of 571 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: great coaches that have come through Cleveland and they've gone 572 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: on from Cleveland. Their careers have taken off, you know, 573 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to say what it is, 574 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: but we I think you're alluding to something. There is 575 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: something obviously because for some reason it hasn't worked, and 576 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I hope it does because there's some tremendous there's a 577 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: tremendous fan base there. I think the players deserve it, obviously, 578 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: the fans deserve the organization deserves it. But I think 579 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: what you have to do is look at what has 580 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: been the common denominator of it all, you know, and 581 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: just try to look through that and try to work 582 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: through that piece and see if you and figure out 583 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: what it is that is a problem. Can I follow 584 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: up quickly, is we've seen owners that are maybe two involved, 585 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, hands on it, not letting the football guys 586 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: do everything, do what they need to do. What is 587 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy has them like as an owner? I mean, obviously 588 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: we see quotes from him and he's somewhat involved, But 589 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: is it too? Is he two hands on? Well? I 590 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: get on again. He's you know, when I was there, Jimmy, 591 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, obviously has things that he wants to know. 592 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: But I didn't feel like he was two hands on. 593 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, you just don't know you know who's talking 594 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: to who. Sometimes that's all in order for any organization 595 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: to work. I think everything has to be aligned correctly. 596 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: The vision has to be stated, and then you go 597 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: make it happen. I think that's first and foremost in 598 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: any organization that has to happen in order for task success. 599 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: I would guess this Hugh Jackson, of course, former NFL 600 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: head coach. This is the Dan Patrick show, the odd 601 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: couple with Chris. We saw it in Rob Parker filling in. 602 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: He we mentioned, Uh, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, Jason 603 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Garrett hasn't been fired yet, kind of hanging in the 604 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: winning Uh what do you make of that situation? And 605 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: how you know for it to come down on Jason 606 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: Gatt When you think about it, they did win the 607 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: NFC East two of the last four years. I think 608 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: it was because it didn't win it this year in 609 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: one of the year two of the last four. But yet, yeah, 610 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: he appears to be getting fired. What's wrong in Dallas? 611 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: That roster's loaded? Yeah, that roster is loaded, you know, 612 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: but sometimes there's a I don't know exactly the number 613 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: of years that Jason has been there ten years. Yeah, 614 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: but as you know, at some point in time you 615 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: just need a new voice. Sometimes the voice is worn out, 616 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe can I getting through or to 617 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: the players like you need to in order to have success. 618 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: And that's nothing against Jason Garrett or anything against the 619 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys organization. At some point in time, sometimes a new voice, 620 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: a new thought process, a new visions creates excitement, creates 621 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, different feelings among players, and sometimes you just 622 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: have to do that. But Hugh, one of the situations, 623 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just not really looking for a comment from you, 624 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: but just maybe acknowledging it. It seems inconceivable that the 625 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys have won four playoff games in twenty five years, 626 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: and they've gone through all, you know, coaches and all 627 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: kinds of situations. But Jerry Jones as an owner's is 628 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: it possible for him to to to look at the 629 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: situation and maybe say I need to step back or 630 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and let the coaches and 631 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: the football football people do what they do. Is it possible? 632 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: It is impossible for a guy like that who's so 633 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: hands on, to back away. And I think it's I 634 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: think it's hard for people to back away that's been 635 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: very involved, because that that's what gives them their values, 636 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: you know, as they look at their teams and as 637 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: they make decisions. So if you have to for very 638 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: hands on and you know everybody's saying he need to 639 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: step away, you might step away for a moment, but 640 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: that's not who you are, right, you know. And I 641 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: still think everybody got to still be the best versions 642 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: of themselves and the best that they can be. So 643 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: if a guy has had success and putting it together, 644 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: you can best believe he's gonna stay involves in some 645 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: capacity in order to keep you know, him feeling that 646 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: he's making a contribution to two wins. H I want 647 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: to go back to the Browns Baker Mayfield, who you 648 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: had as a quarterback and you were bringing him along slowly, 649 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: and you know then when they let you go, he 650 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: comes out and plays well. Last year really took a 651 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: step back this year. You know a lot of people 652 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: thought he was the next hot thing and gonna be 653 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: the hot quarterback out of that draft, and he really 654 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: struggled mightily this year. Two part question one, do you 655 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: think he is their quarterback in the future? Like they 656 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: can rest and say, okay, this is our guy. We 657 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: just got to get the right coach and staff in here. 658 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: But he's our guy. We're not questioning that. And if so, 659 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: what changes does he have to make And is it 660 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: even to some of the you know, the out verse 661 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: he has that you know, can a guy be that 662 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: type of you know, have that type of personality as 663 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback, because you don't see a ton of the 664 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks being that outspoken. Talk to me about that. Absolutely, 665 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: I think Baker is who he is, but I think 666 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: he even sees that he's going to have to adjust 667 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: a little bit as he moves forward. There's no question 668 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: I think he is the right quarterback for them. I 669 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: think what happens in these situations you've got to have 670 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: people and surround him with people who can take him 671 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: from A to Z. You know, where's the football piece, 672 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: the off the field piece, all of it. I just 673 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: think that's what coaching and quarterback in the National Football 674 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: League requires. It's not just the exces and ohs, it's 675 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: the things off the field and you know, how you roll, 676 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: how you go about your daily routine, you know, period. 677 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's so Gordon and not saying that 678 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: that didn't get done, but from the outside looking in, 679 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: you would question how many of those things were done, 680 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, at a high level to have him continue 681 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: to move forward in a second year towards success. He 682 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: has all the things that I think a quarterback needs 683 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: to have in a national football league. What you have 684 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: to do now is make sure you put the right 685 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: people around him day in and day out for him 686 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: as success. Hude, you had two chances as a head coach? 687 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: Would you love a third one? Are you still out there? 688 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Want to get back in the league and get another 689 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a head coach? Oh? Absolutely, I want 690 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: to get back in the league. I know the process 691 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: for me to get getting a third opportunity won't just happen. 692 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: I know I probably need to go back and work 693 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: my way back up the ladder, start back being a 694 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: coordinator running offenses again, and go from there. But I 695 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: want to coach, There's no question about that. And I 696 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: feel hopefully that in this cycle I'll get a chance 697 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: to do that. Hugh. There, you know, the Dallas job 698 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: if it comes open, Like most of us, when it 699 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: comes open, it's gonna diagree. But Jason Witten's name has 700 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: been thrown out there now how legitimate that is, we 701 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: don't know. But NFL reporters are saying he's a possibility. 702 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously has no coaching experience. You haven't sat 703 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: in that seat twice. It seems to me unfathomable that 704 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: you can have a guy go from the plane field 705 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: or the broadcast booth right away to a head coach 706 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Talk about that and what goes into 707 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: that job, and do you think somebody can make that 708 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: type of leap. I think that's too big of a leap. Personally, 709 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: it's just just too many hats to wear, and to mean, 710 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: when you're the head coach, everybody's looking to you to 711 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: fix everything, not just offense, not just defense, not just 712 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: special teams, things within the organization, things on an everyday basis, 713 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: dealing with the media, things, dealing with other marketing, everything 714 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: that goes on in a football organization. So if you 715 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: haven't had any experience that doing those things, you could 716 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: get start getting pulled in a lot of different directions 717 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: really really fast, and you end up doing nothing. So 718 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's very doable. I think there 719 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: is a price to pay to become a head coach 720 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: of the National Football League to even coach in the 721 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: National Football League, and I think people who supersede that 722 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: normally don't have a success that they're looking for. All Right, 723 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: those are the words of Hugh Jackson. Great stuff you preach. Absolutely. 724 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you and your family who we 725 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you so much. All right. See, it 726 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: was a record setting day for one NFL quarterback. It's 727 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: just not the kind of record you want. We'll explain next. 728 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Bruce Are He's Rod Parker. We are the 729 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Eye Couple, and this is the Dan Patrick Show. Hey, listeners, 730 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to take a minute to thank all our 731 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting 732 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you, 733 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: and I wanted to remind you that you can support 734 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: our sponsors by going to our showpage at podcast one 735 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: dot com, clicking on the support this Podcast button, and 736 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: day you will see all our wonderful sponsors that help 737 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: make this show possible. Thank you for downloading, subscribing, and 738 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: of course supporting, and now back to the show. By 739 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: the time you finish this ad, one thousand, one hundred 740 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: and fifty seven people will have planned their travel on Skyscanner. 741 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: Skyscanner is here to make travel simple while finding you 742 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: the best deals from flights and hotels to car rentals. 743 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: We bring everything together in one place so you can 744 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: plan the perfect trip from DC and beyond. Discover why 745 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: over one hundred million travelers trust us every month. Search 746 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: Skyscanner or download the Skyscanner app. Today. 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This is the Damn Pastor 757 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 1: Show Chris Brussard and Roy Parker, and we are brought 758 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: to you by Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. All Right, we 759 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: talked about the Browns and the Cowboys and how disappointing. 760 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: Their seasons were in the Patriots. You know, still alive, 761 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: but been been a disappointment to a lot of people. 762 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Rod Parker, Jamis Winston, let's go to him, became the 763 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: first quarterback ever to throw for thirty touchdowns and thirty 764 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: interceptions in the same season. He actually threw for thirty 765 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and thirty interest sceptions. Now let me let me, 766 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: let me give him miss props. He led the league 767 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: in passing yards five thousand, one hundred and nine passing yards. 768 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: He averaged three hundred nineteen per game, the only quarterback 769 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: Rod this year to throw for over five thousand yards. 770 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: So you wait a minute, Chris, So he made it 771 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: to the thirty thirty club. If this was Major League Baseball, 772 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: that would be pretty impressive, right, Unfortunately is not. And 773 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: Jamis wasn't he a baseball player? Yeah? I think he 774 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: went with that. Yeah, I mean because wow, I mean 775 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: think about the NFL celebrating what Chris, the one hundredth 776 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: anniversary of the league. Yep, and no quarterback had ever 777 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: done that, which is incredible. Seriously, the thirty touchdowns and 778 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: thirty picks, um that that's pretty bad. Thirty and You're right, 779 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: the five thousand yards. U kind of re established himself, right. 780 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: You remember coming back this year, people didn't know about 781 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston. You know, um, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 782 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: where do you go? Now? Ironically he likes the number 783 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: thirty because there was a report last week that he's 784 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: asking for about thirty million on the market. Remember he's 785 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: without a contrary, he's a free agent, right, this was 786 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: his proven year. Yep. And I've got two comments. One, 787 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: as I said, led the league in yardage, Rob we 788 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: are seen and you you kind of have said this 789 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: about Matthew Stafford, who you covered in Detroit many years, 790 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: and I called staff Patford you know what I mean, 791 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 1: Like he puts up big numbers, but they don't win. Well, 792 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: here's the top five quarterbacks this year in yards per 793 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: or yardage and they would be yards per game as well, 794 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: but yards total passing yards. Matt Ryan at number five, 795 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers at number four, Jared Goff at three, Dak 796 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Prescott two, and Jamis Winston one. What do all those 797 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have in commons? None of them are in the playoffs. 798 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: I tell you about these numbers. The numbers are overblown 799 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of times, Chris, if you're on a 800 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: bad team, guess what what are you doing? Defenses are 801 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: backing up, giving you room in front of them. Correct, Yes, 802 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: and you got to throw the entire game in the 803 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: second half, and you put up these numbers. As long 804 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: as they don't let you score quickly over their heads, 805 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: they'll let you throw all day in front of them. Yep. 806 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: And that's why those numbers. That's unbelievable. You just said it. 807 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: None of those guys are going to the playoffs. Nope. 808 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: And that's why, like we have to reevaluate or just 809 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: understand that throwing for a ton of yards, as you 810 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: explained it, it doesn't mean a ton sometimes it may 811 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you have a great game and you know, but 812 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: if it's not tied to winning and not tied to touchdowns, 813 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: then in a lot of cases they're empty numbers. And 814 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: this season is great proof of that. Here's my second 815 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: thing for you, Rob, So where would you go, Like, 816 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: if you're a franchising you need a quarterback, would you 817 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: have any interest in Jameis Winston. You'd have to kick 818 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: the tires on him because the guy obviously, I mean, 819 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: you just can't pooh pooh totally, and a lot of 820 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: teams are looking for quarterbacks. Chris. Maybe maybe he matures, 821 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: maybe he can get that somebody could work with him 822 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: over the decision kind of thing is one thing if 823 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: you don't have any skills, do you know what I mean? 824 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: Like he has skills. So it's a decision making process 825 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: that you need to get across. And maybe the right 826 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: guy could get it out of him. So I'm not ready. 827 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: He's a young guy too, right, He's a young guy. 828 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: He's still young, no doubt, right, So it's it's one 829 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: of those situations where he's twenty five, that's what I'm saying. 830 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: He used to be twenty six this week. He's young, Yeah, 831 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. So I'm not ready to give 832 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: up on him and think that he can't maybe turn 833 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: the corner. But but I agree that's his one obviously, 834 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: his one problem is decision making. That's it. And he 835 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: if you can get the right coach to help him 836 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: mature in that respect, then I would you know, I 837 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: would not give up on you because, as you said, 838 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: obviously got a big arm. You know. Thirty three touchdowns 839 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: was the second most in the league to Lamar Jackson 840 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: this year. And he's this is the he's never actually 841 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: thrown for more interceptions than he has touchdowns. That's not 842 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: saying a ton in this day and age, but still 843 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's always thrown. You know, second year 844 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: in the league, he had twenty eight touchdowns, right, you know, 845 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: and only eighteen picks. So I definitely wouldn't give up 846 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: on you. I don't. I'm not looking to pay him 847 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: thirty million. Oh I get him asking that you start high. 848 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: You always ask for the moon, right right, and if 849 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: you can get him in the you know, high twenties, 850 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven. I mean, in this day and age, it 851 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but that's the going rate. I would not 852 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: give up on him. If I'm a team, I try 853 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: to make it work with Jamie Winston, yeah, you know, 854 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: if I have the right coaching staff in place, and 855 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: maybe if you're trying to lure him as a free 856 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: agent as well, all you gotta do is throwing some 857 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: crab legs and he would probably get a deal done. 858 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, he's never gonna live that down, right, I'm sorry, 859 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not spurt. Certainly when he's throwing thirty interceptions, 860 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: he got to do something more positive on the field 861 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: to override that. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to 862 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: see what happens with him. It feels like Tampa Bay 863 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: may move on, but I don't know where they're going, 864 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: but they may be the team to move on from him. 865 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: But famous Jamis and then he tests the verdie I 866 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: believe holds the record for thirty five interceptions in the 867 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: year or he was the last quarterback to throw for 868 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: over thirty Jamis reminds me of Vinny dun Slinger, right, 869 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: and then he had some success. Remember what that Jets 870 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: team they thought they want to get there with Bill 871 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: much like like Jamis, I a erradic and all that. 872 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: So don't give up on him just yet. 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