WEBVTT - Michael Winters from Stars Hollow

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one

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<v Speaker 1>eleven productions. iHeart Radio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast. One on

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<v Speaker 1>one interview live at Warner Brothers. UH pre interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Winters, who played the illustrious Taylor Dozie. Michael, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so good to see a so much for flying

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<v Speaker 1>in for this a big event at Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible up there.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, I feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about getting the role I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I had been in town for a few years and

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<v Speaker 2>I had sporadic auditions and then I got the audition

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<v Speaker 2>for this, and I had a script and hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>on yet. I had no idea what it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>And I read it and I thought, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>whether this is a comedy or if it's a serious thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know how to deal with it. And

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who was running the interview was a Rodman Flanders,

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<v Speaker 2>who directed the episode then eventually, and he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it in terms of screwball comedies from the thirties that

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<v Speaker 2>I knew very well, so that gave me the great

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<v Speaker 2>clue did the audition. I think I came back one

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<v Speaker 2>more time and then boom, I was doing it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was originally only supposed to be four episodes, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, that's great, because I'm going back to Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>and do a play, and they said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's any more, we'll call you back. In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>it ended up being seven years, plus the four extra

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<v Speaker 2>movies for Netflix and everything. So it was tiny little

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<v Speaker 2>seed that grew into a big thing for me. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's do you remember your first visit to Stars Hollow?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, I mean, you know, the first time I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been on this lot or you know it is where

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<v Speaker 2>great movies where you go around and the sound stages

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<v Speaker 2>have plaques on them with movies and TVs that were

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<v Speaker 2>filmed in those places, you know, great old movies that

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<v Speaker 2>I that I'm a great fan of. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think we talked about this once before that. I the

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<v Speaker 2>first scene I did was a sort of Halloween one,

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<v Speaker 2>an autumn one, and I was trying to decorate the

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<v Speaker 2>town with everything, and you didn't want any decorations on

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<v Speaker 2>your place, and I got caught by you sneaking pumpkins

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<v Speaker 2>onto the front steps. I remember that so vividly. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I watched the episode again before we talked

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<v Speaker 2>on your on your show, that wasn't there. That never

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<v Speaker 2>made it into the Yeah, but that was the whole

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<v Speaker 2>first thing, was the beginning of our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when did you start getting recognized as Taylor Dosie

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<v Speaker 1>out there in the in Pulbium.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a while because like the first year, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was only in three episodes the first year.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it sort of grew and it was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years before people recognized me on the street. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still sort of amazed, because you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly small part, but a very very memorable part of

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<v Speaker 2>good Time. But now it happens every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to Ted about it on the

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<v Speaker 2>way over today, that it happens just enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>nice and not to be noxious, not to take life.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a while before before people would recognize

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<v Speaker 2>me because I didn't do much early on, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it got to be more and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just constant there for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember being directed by Amy, Oh, yeah, tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it was she knew it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she'd written that, so she knew. But but

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<v Speaker 2>and she was the one who she talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>rom coms to the old, the old screwball comedies with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of risk. So I learned a whole new

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<v Speaker 2>style of sort of working. And I got it right

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<v Speaker 2>from her because you know, she knew it and she

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<v Speaker 2>she lived it right, So yeah, she was great.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Dan? Do you remember working with Dan? He

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<v Speaker 1>directed a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Episodes and I did, and he was much quieter. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a very you know, quiet internal sort of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But he knew what he was doing too. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just a whole different sort of energy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're writing is different to episode per episode. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>hers is more like this. His is more like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He tends to keep it very light, the really

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<v Speaker 1>stressing the comedy all the way through, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>always this big moment at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember we're exactly the episodes I worked with him,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't It wasn't many three or four, right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe over the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about working with Lauren Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. We found out within the first hour

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<v Speaker 2>that I was here that we had the same birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we sort of launched into that. And she

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<v Speaker 2>would always say to me, you know, she had this

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<v Speaker 2>great job, and she said, oh, I wish I could

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<v Speaker 2>do what you do. I'd love to go do a play.

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<v Speaker 2>And we used to talk about the theater, you know

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<v Speaker 2>when we talked, but she was usually so busy. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a killer schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah she did, she did. And then after that Gilmore

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<v Speaker 2>Girls was over. Before she went over to the other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the Family thing, she did a show in New York, right,

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<v Speaker 2>she got to do a play. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always found Gilmore to be very theatrical. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the means we shot in the diner.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really like these little plays. Yeah, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>really were. And a lot of it was staged that way,

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<v Speaker 1>a block that way, so I kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing theater anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt very much at home. Yeah, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I usually did. And I remember at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember Dak and Matthews who showed the yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an old friend of mine and we've done a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work together. And we both heard from people

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<v Speaker 2>who worked on Gilmo Girls said we like you guys

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<v Speaker 2>because you can handle a whole lot of dialogue, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because we were used to that, right, And so when

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<v Speaker 2>we do the town meetings, you know, and Liz and

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<v Speaker 2>I would sit up there all day long while they

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<v Speaker 2>shot the other thing. Then we'd each have one and

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<v Speaker 2>I have these long, complicated speeches, and I thought, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so it's it was hard, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for that kind of situation, you have to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have the lines before you go. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't rehearse anything. Oh no, no, it's just you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be ready to go. It took me a while

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<v Speaker 2>to get used to that is. It was very different

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<v Speaker 2>from what i'd done.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye. George Bell was yeah, oh yeah, very very good

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<v Speaker 1>about fantastics. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only thing I ever worked on in which

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<v Speaker 2>when the shot was over, they would check with the director,

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<v Speaker 2>They checked with the DP, they checked with the sound guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they checked with George to see how we

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<v Speaker 2>had done by the dialogue. So if it wasn't exactly

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<v Speaker 2>word perfect, right, they'd go back and we'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember all those town hall meetings where you

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<v Speaker 1>would just nail everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It did not feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You were ninety five percent nailing everything every take.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were very complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they were.

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of the fun of the writers, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember that those days were endless for us

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<v Speaker 2>because we sat up there, well all the shooting out

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<v Speaker 2>in the audience, and then there'd be a big one,

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<v Speaker 2>then there'd be a close up and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it took all day, all day in that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Room that was boiling hotep and and then at the

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<v Speaker 2>end everybody went home and she and I stayed and

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<v Speaker 2>did the parts, you know where they were looking at us.

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<v Speaker 2>We were always done at eleven or eleventh at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's harder to remember. The one thing I remember

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<v Speaker 2>too about the we did an episode that had the

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<v Speaker 2>Livings paintings right right, and I did all the introductions

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<v Speaker 2>to the paintings, which I did at the end exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, full of Italian names and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And the night was over essentially, you know, and if

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<v Speaker 2>everybody left and I got up there to do like

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<v Speaker 2>four or five of these things in a row and

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<v Speaker 2>the direction and I don't I don't want to push you,

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<v Speaker 2>but the sun's going to come up in about five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to get these done before it was done,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to rattle those off. Oh my, that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty freaky.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminds me of those days in New York City when

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<v Speaker 1>I'd stumble out to save the Robot at seven am.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I mean. Yeah, he'd stumble out

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<v Speaker 1>of Warner Brothers at seven am, you know, yeah, on

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<v Speaker 1>a Saturday morning and then have to be back Monday. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those were sometimes. Yeah, those town hall meetings. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was also fun because, uh, Liz and I

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<v Speaker 2>liked old music. Uh and uh, so we'd we'd spend

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<v Speaker 2>the time. She'd sing the first line of a song

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<v Speaker 2>and I would do it from there.

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<v Speaker 1>That went on along. We'd spent that she she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>she great on set?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Having Liz and and Sally on at the same time. Yeah, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the history of musical theater. It's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>And and Liz had known and worked with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, just amazing the stories, the exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>funny the body story and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that on the back wall of that of

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<v Speaker 2>that of her studio were all old photographs of her,

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<v Speaker 2>right from far back in her career. And she was

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<v Speaker 2>a young guyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, she really, you know, she knew everybody, James Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she had all the stories.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Tony Bennett, she talked about a lot. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she was probably the most cornered actress on

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<v Speaker 1>set because we wanted the stories. Can you just talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? And I had all that time with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was great. What a treat, What a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you keep in touch with Sally right, uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Not anymore? Did for a while, okay, and Liz too.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh And then of course it was great when we

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<v Speaker 2>did the reboot or Netflix and we uh we were

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<v Speaker 2>all back together again. That's what a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>time was was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Sally was supposed to do this today, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's she's always in Kansas City doing a play.

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<v Speaker 1>She works all the time. Yeah, on stage though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's always doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we did. I remember one thing Liz and I

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<v Speaker 2>did was she played she did a one woman No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was two or three people actually about Patsy Klein

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood and and I went one day and head

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<v Speaker 2>lunch and then went to watch her.

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<v Speaker 1>Do Oh that's nice to think it was great, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very nice. What are you working on now anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't work much anymore. I mean, I'm sort

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<v Speaker 2>of retired because after a while I started to lose

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<v Speaker 2>my balance. You know, my balance wasn't good and so

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<v Speaker 2>I had trouble with that, and and then there was

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<v Speaker 2>the the pandemic. All the theaters just shut down, and

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<v Speaker 2>so so by the time that was over, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like essentially retired sort of. I've done I've done things

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<v Speaker 2>up there, but you know, like one show a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know this global fan base would like you

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big comeback as Taylor Dozie. Would you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe venture to do another iteration of Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 2>Girls in New York? Oh that's good, it would be fun. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the greatest job in the world. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 2>lived about ten minutes from here. Oh yeah the whole time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>me too, So I had no problem getting here, had

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<v Speaker 2>a great time and had fun stuff to do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to get on Maul Holland and just get

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<v Speaker 1>here in six minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so yeah, and just was around the corner sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's been a great pleasure catching up with you, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see you, and we'll see you out there

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<v Speaker 1>in about an hour's time, I guess, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to put on a show for all these fans that

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<v Speaker 1>are showing up at Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Michael, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at

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