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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to a Wednesday at issue of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, John Harris right off the bat, joining me

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans, Mark Vanni, remark, how are you, Johnny?

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Speaker 1: I have not talked to you on the year since Monday,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I don't know. That was such

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Speaker 1: as been a while. It's a rushed show. I miss

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Speaker 1: Indie kind of. Yeah, because it's all football. It's all

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Speaker 1: football people. I decided, by the way, that's my favorite event,

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Speaker 1: the Combine. Just the Combine is my favorite event. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just love seeing everybody, you know, I love seeing

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Speaker 1: all the people from the other teams and the other

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Speaker 1: media places, and I just feel like I never get

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Speaker 1: talk with. And everyone always asked me how do the

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Speaker 1: players look. I'm like, I don't know. I mean nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with the players. To me, it's just about

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Speaker 1: being around the league peeps and doing our shows and

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Speaker 1: talking to O'Brien and Gaine and getting their take on things,

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Speaker 1: and I just love the whole thing. So anyway, I

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Speaker 1: thought i'd throw that out there. It's pretty good I've

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Speaker 1: probably with you. It's probably my favorite event too. I

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Speaker 1: love India, love going up there. I just I love

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Speaker 1: what we're able to do. We get a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk to Obie and Gaine. Um. The Senior Bowl is

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Speaker 1: lot of those same peeps. But there's football involved, so

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Speaker 1: there's at least you get to see that. But you

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Speaker 1: just don't have everybody that's at the Combine there. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of a looser structure. Yeah it's not. It's not

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Speaker 1: quite like the Common and you don't have like about

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Speaker 1: one hundred twenty thirty underclassmen that aren't there. So there

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Speaker 1: ends up being these buzz and the seniors, and then

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Speaker 1: you get to the Combine and there's a lot of buzz,

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Speaker 1: and the underclassmen ended up declaring for the drift because

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the underclassmen, many of them

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Speaker 1: who are coming out, are game changers. Really. The other

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Speaker 1: take the Combine. They're gonna move it. Eventually, it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I heard people are going to be really

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Speaker 1: an event or potentially, really, the way they do it

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Speaker 1: the way they could do it will be a nice event.

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Speaker 1: It won't be the draft, but it'll be a nice

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Speaker 1: event for the fans, sort of this winter fest of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and winter is ending. By the way I

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Speaker 1: heard today this was the last Yesterday was the last

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Speaker 1: freezing temperature in Houston. I thought, uh, duh, it's March.

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Speaker 1: It better be better. Better. We got one coming up

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Speaker 1: in Yeah, So coming up on the show a little later,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Tim Kelly, yes, newly named offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: United chance to sit down with him a day ago,

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Speaker 1: and he was he's fantastic. So you don't Tim, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have that for you the next segment as well.

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Speaker 1: The public doesn't really know Tim Kelly. Let's just be

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Speaker 1: honest here, and even in the building, you know Tim Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and you've pointed this out before. He's been at a

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Speaker 1: And then elevating tight ends coach and you know, help

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Speaker 1: Lite I mean all of that stuff. He's been really grinding,

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Speaker 1: working great football mind. But when you talk to him

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Speaker 1: the way we did and the way everyone will hear

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Speaker 1: I think everyone will realize that this guy's gonna be

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Speaker 1: And I hope it's not anytime that soon because you

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Speaker 1: But I just threw that out there. I know Bill

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Speaker 1: You definitely want to listen to that. And then in

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Speaker 1: I will tell you about offensive guard forty four guard.

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Speaker 1: him higher than twenty three as a guard? Potentially? Yes?

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Speaker 1: coming up next week, Mark, it's spring right for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, But in this building, it's potentially gonna

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Speaker 1: lot of us, you don't think about it like that.

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Speaker 1: You think about free agents, right, the Texans have got

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Speaker 1: some money to spend, if you will, do as much

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Speaker 1: the way, but can you get players from outside the building?

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Speaker 1: the pass rushers I got tagged, So that's not me.

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Speaker 1: Never gonna do it. So those three categories got it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're sacrifice the long term. You're always sacrifice. It's fourteen

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Speaker 1: million dollarsteen million. You'll never make it back. It just

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Speaker 1: and this kind of goes. Let's just say for this

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Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew or Kareem Jackson back. Earl Thomas. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna think about this thirty years old. Yeah, I know, okay,

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Speaker 1: first three rounds, Johnny, how many safeties? Five, six, seven?

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Speaker 1: watching the different cutups, and you know, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: areas we were you know, pretty good at in other

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Speaker 1: areas that we need to approve at For the most part,

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Speaker 1: it's just people being consistent, coming and doing their jobs

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Speaker 1: play by play, week by week, and being able to

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Speaker 1: do that I think is going to take us to

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Speaker 1: where we want to go. Since you've come into the building,

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Speaker 1: obviously there have been different quarterbacks here, you know, many

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Speaker 1: different situations. Offensively, how does that help you experience wise

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Speaker 1: as you get ready for the future with this team.

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Speaker 1: I think it provides you with a lot of answers,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we have been in

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Speaker 1: a ton of sid situations. You know, people breaking legs

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and you know Tommy getting rolled up on

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Speaker 1: and then oh my god, what do we do now?

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Speaker 1: Or so I think it kind of builds with your

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Speaker 1: experience of all the unique situations, because not every situation

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Speaker 1: is the same. But you know, if you have this

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Speaker 1: this big bag of things that you've been through, you

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Speaker 1: can kind of draw back and say, well, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to how we handle this situation, or

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Speaker 1: this is kind of similar to you know, in fifteen

444
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Speaker 1: when this happened, and at least it kind of gives

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Speaker 1: you a starting point as to how to handle different things.

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Speaker 1: And now you walk into building and one of those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that did tear his leg up is now working

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Speaker 1: for you at t J. Yates. It's weird. How that's

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Speaker 1: weird this world works. But what does a guy like

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Speaker 1: TJ provide for you as an offensive assistant, a role

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Speaker 1: that used used to be in. Now he's now in

452
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Speaker 1: a role similar to that. How does that help you

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Speaker 1: going forward to him? Yeah? I think it's you know,

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Speaker 1: a very very valuable tool to have, you know, with us,

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Speaker 1: because he does provide a player's perspective and then you know,

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Speaker 1: with him being a quarterback and you know, rather successful one,

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Speaker 1: he's able to kind of tell us what he's looking

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Speaker 1: at or what he would look at, just kind of

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Speaker 1: give us, you know, another unique perspective in the room.

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Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois. So this is like an NFL hotbed really

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Speaker 1: when you think about some of the players that have

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Speaker 1: come out, When did you know you wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a coach? When did that happen for you? Tim? You know, when, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we lost our last playoff game, I

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Speaker 1: knew that I wasn't done with it yet. I knew

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Speaker 1: I wasn't good enough to play anymore, but uh I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to let the game go. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I talked to some of my coaches that

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Speaker 1: I played for and asked what I could do to

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Speaker 1: stay around, and you know, kind of just just kept

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Speaker 1: hanging around and ended up getting to graduate you know,

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Speaker 1: a system position, and we were off and running there.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest difference in your mind? Because you got

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Speaker 1: into it very young like that, so did Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: by the way, of course, So what was the biggest difference?

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Speaker 1: What stood out to you right away when you started

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Speaker 1: coaching as a grad assistant? How much work the coaches?

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Speaker 1: As a player? You're like, am I getting myself exactly? Right? Then?

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Speaker 1: You know that that first camp all around and it

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Speaker 1: was an eye open I was like, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely the amount of work that goes into

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Speaker 1: it and just you know, the amount of detail that

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Speaker 1: goes into it was eye opening as you thought about

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Speaker 1: being a coach. I'm sure over the years you talked

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Speaker 1: to may different coaches and when you tell people, yea,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a coach, I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten like a piece of advice from somebody

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Speaker 1: along the way, a coach, a parent, a friend, a

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Speaker 1: family member as you started, yeah, I'm a coach, and

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, this would be the one piece of

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Speaker 1: advice I'd give you. Have you ever gotten a piece

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Speaker 1: of advice from somebody like that. Yeah, well, my dad

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Speaker 1: I always say just keep your head down and don't

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Speaker 1: get y'alled at. So I mean that's been the biggest,

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Speaker 1: the biggest piece of advice. Just keep keep keep your

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Speaker 1: head down, keep working as hard as you can, and

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Speaker 1: the goal at the end of the day is to

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Speaker 1: not get yelled at. If you can do that, then

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Speaker 1: you're doing a good job and just keep pushing forward.

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Speaker 1: That's just the corollaria the advice I got, which was

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Speaker 1: don't suck. That was its kind. It's kind of all

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Speaker 1: one and the same. Don't suck. That's kind of negative reinforcement,

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Speaker 1: right then, Yeah, well it's not surprising who I got

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Speaker 1: it from, so you know that person. But but that said,

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Speaker 1: you think about from a coaching perspective, advice you get,

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Speaker 1: any advice you give. You had a lot of young

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Speaker 1: people that come through, and last year you had two

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Speaker 1: young guys at tight End that you were responsible for,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas at Jordan Nakins. Let's start with that because

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Speaker 1: you were with them in particular as young guys. What

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Speaker 1: did you see in them from the day they stepped

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Speaker 1: into the building to the day that we checked out.

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Speaker 1: After the colts Loust in the playoff. Would you see

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Speaker 1: in them in the transformation of those two players in particular, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, especially from We'll start with Jordan Thomas,

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Speaker 1: like he really developed as a tight end. He didn't

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Speaker 1: really do that that much in Mississippi State, you know,

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Speaker 1: more of a wide receiver. We kind of all know

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Speaker 1: the story there. But the amount of work he came

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Speaker 1: in and it's you know, it's a tough deal that

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Speaker 1: we asked some of these tight ends to do. Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of times you're out there blocking the best

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Speaker 1: player on their defense, whether it's JJ or Clowney or

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Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes you don't have a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of help. So you know, he came in with the

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Speaker 1: right mindset every day to work. And then Jorge Nakins,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was he was mister consistency, Like he

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Speaker 1: would come in every single day, be the same person,

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Speaker 1: you know, very level headed, never too you know, you're

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Speaker 1: never too excited, never too down on himself. So he

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Speaker 1: just came and kept working and kept you know, if

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Speaker 1: he had any questions or anything on those lines, he'd

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Speaker 1: come and ask and he was you know, he was

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Speaker 1: as consistent as they come. For a rookie. All right,

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Speaker 1: can I test my theory with you on why tight

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Speaker 1: ends coaches can often become really good offensive coordinators because

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Speaker 1: the tight ends are involved, they get their hands and

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Speaker 1: everything mo line, their receivers are a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: Does that play into it? Absolutely? Because you do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you need another run game, You need to know a

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Speaker 1: hotter run routes, You need to know you know the

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Speaker 1: passing concepts. Then you also need to know protections as

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Speaker 1: far as am I blocking here or my hot responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: So you do kind of have a you know, a

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Speaker 1: piece of every part of the offense. And as a

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Speaker 1: tight ends coach, yeah, you have to. You gotta know

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Speaker 1: what Mike Devlin wants to do, and you gotta know

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Speaker 1: what Johnny Perry wants to Are you gonna know everything? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can kind of be on the same page with everybody.

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Speaker 1: So you know that that was, you know, a very

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Speaker 1: important part of it. And I was fortunate to have

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Speaker 1: dev and Johnny and have you know, be able to

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Speaker 1: lean on those guys for certain things, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they helped me out a ton over this past two seasons.

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Speaker 1: Timm would imagine as a coach, you're always always sitting

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Speaker 1: there with a pencil and paper and you're already doodling. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this play might look good. But now that you've stepped

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Speaker 1: in this role of offensive coordinate, have you done that

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Speaker 1: a little bit more? As you're watching some of these

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Speaker 1: prospect tapes, are you looking at a scheme going hey,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like that, you kind of drawn? Are

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Speaker 1: you doing a little bit more of that? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: think you know, anytime you're watching a lot of film,

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Speaker 1: you always have these ideas that kind of popping your head.

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Speaker 1: So I think as a coach, you're always like, dang

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Speaker 1: that you know that that's a pretty good idea. They

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Speaker 1: actually dropped that down. So I wouldn't say I'm doing

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Speaker 1: it anymore or less than than I have been in

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Speaker 1: the past. All right, Tim, Hey, thanks a lot for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Thank you. I really appreciate it, sir.

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Speaker 1: Like I said before, we've known Tim Kelly from the

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Speaker 1: day he set foot in this building in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: As he mentioned, he coached at Penn State with Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: He came here and he jumped on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and he was an offensive assistant. He

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Speaker 1: came to tight ends. Coach did a great job with

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Speaker 1: those young guys in particular we talked about and now

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for your Texans. All right, we get back.

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Speaker 1: It's time to go in the Lab with Drew Dohertyan

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Speaker 1: this week, I tell you about Cody Ford, offensive guard.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that next right here in Texas Access one

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Speaker 1: final segment of Texas All Access on this wonderful Wednesday evening.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the freeze is over and done. We can see

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Speaker 1: the sun hopefully come out a whole heck of a

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Speaker 1: lot more next few days. Doan't look like it, but

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Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's coming. Maybe spring is actually here.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being here. I'm your host, John Harris

588
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Speaker 1: football anost and silent reporter for your Houston Texans. And

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: each and every Tuesday or Wednesday, Drew, Dorry and I

590
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: do a podcast called in the Lab, and since draft

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Speaker 1: season began a few weeks ago, Drew has started a

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Speaker 1: part of In the Lab called tell Me About Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Tell me about Cody Ford, offensive lineman from Oklahoma. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you mentioned offensive lineman. I didn't say tackle exactly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say left tackle. And I'm glad you said

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Speaker 1: that because I after seeing him in Indianapolis, and watching

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Speaker 1: him in Indianapolis and watching his tape throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: I'm fairly convinced that he is a guard. I think

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Speaker 1: he is a guard. I think teams want him to

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Speaker 1: be a guard. I know for a fact there's one

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Speaker 1: NFL team that absolutely and it's not us. I just

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Speaker 1: I happen to be on a flight and whoever was

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Speaker 1: on the flight had some information. I saw it. There's

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Speaker 1: an NFL team I know definitely thinks he should be

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Speaker 1: a guard. So and I and I would imagine that

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Speaker 1: team's not alone. So I think that Cody Ford is

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Speaker 1: gonna end up being a guard, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a darn good one. Yeah. The one thing

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Speaker 1: that stood out to me true, and you can see

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Speaker 1: some of this on the field, but when you know

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Speaker 1: the whole underwear Olympics thing, you know, that gets to

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Speaker 1: you know, people kind of poke fun at it. But

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the reasons for it is

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Speaker 1: you can really see the body types of these guys.

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Speaker 1: And I was his trunk is so big, like his

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Speaker 1: button and his legs are so big, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: preclude him from moving well out on the edge, but

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Speaker 1: I really feel like and I have him in the

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Speaker 1: Harris one hundred and I think I have him as

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Speaker 1: list as a tackle, and going into my second iteration,

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Speaker 1: I will put him as a guard. I want to

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Speaker 1: put a tackle I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make him

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Speaker 1: a guard. Now for the Texans. Does ze preclude him

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Speaker 1: from being a draft pick? No, not at all, because

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Speaker 1: if you want to continue to improve this offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you'll take all steps. And if Cody Ford is there

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Speaker 1: and you've assessed him as such, and you love everything

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Speaker 1: about him and he's as you look at it, he's

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Speaker 1: better than the guys you have, and you have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to draft him at number twenty three, then let's

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Speaker 1: rock and roll. Let's make this offensive line as good

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Speaker 1: as it possibly can be. In Cody Ford transition back,

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Speaker 1: transitions back to guard. And here's his timeline was he

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Speaker 1: was a guard in twenty seventeen. Then when Orlando Brown

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Speaker 1: went to the NFL right tackle, Bobby Evans went to

636
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Speaker 1: the left side, they bumped him out the tackle to

637
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: open up spots for Drew Summie and Ben Powers. So

638
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Ford went to right tackle just because of that movement.

639
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, but he played guard in twenty seventeen,

640
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's ultimately where he's gonna go in

641
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think that's where it suits him. He's

642
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty pounds and he's from waist down.

643
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: He just looks like he looks like he's eight hundred pounds. Yeah,

644
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean he looks like Dylan mac Dyalen Mack has

645
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of that same thing. So you know, there's some power.

646
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, there's the ability to move guys off the football.

647
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna win some leverage battles. I was really impressed

648
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: with what Cody Ford did thinking of him as a

649
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: guard at the combine. You know, it wasn't just it

650
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: wasn't how he ran or anything like that, but it

651
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: was just the way he moved, the way that he

652
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: did everything with just this this this power. And I

653
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: think that's something that the offensive line for the Texans

654
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: maybe lacks, just having that intense man. We're gonna run

655
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: right behind this guy because we know he's gonna drive

656
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: this guy three yards off the ball he's got and

657
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: he's listening to him in his interview with the media

658
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, and get to put an asterisk somewhat by that,

659
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: but he was very impressive. I was very impressed with

660
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the stuff he was saying, the demeanor he had, the

661
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: confidence he had. And then the Athletic did a really

662
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: cool piece on him. They kind of followed him around

663
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: and just sort of chronicled how grinding that week is. Yeah,

664
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: those few days are for these prospects. And I thought

665
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: he I thought he came off well in that piece

666
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, he's he's somebody that it's gonna

667
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: be fun to see where he goes. I mean, I

668
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: could see him here. I don't think it will happen. Um,

669
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: I think he's there's a possibility he's in that range.

670
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: But he's definitely somebody that's been mocked to the Texans

671
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of these mocked drafts. Yeah, and I

672
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: think they're thinking about him as a tackle and im

673
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not ruling out type listening, but he looks

674
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: better suited to be a guard. Yeah, I think he's better.

675
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: I think he's better suited to be a guard. And

676
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, look, this is a guy that's what three

677
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: and twenty nine pounds and he had a twenty eight

678
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: and a half in vertically keep him on Andrey Diller

679
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: at twenty nine eight vertically. So wait, what does what

680
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: does that mean? John? Well, the vertical job is all

681
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: about explosion. It's all about explosion. And fifteen twenty nine inches,

682
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: he's almost three thirty and he's doing twenty eight and

683
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: a half inch, so you know from that perspective. And

684
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: I watched him do the broad jump, and when they

685
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: they reeled off his number, which was nine to eight,

686
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, all right, nine six. Sorry, that's

687
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: a dark good number. I mean, that's a that's a

688
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: really good number. So um oh, actually I did my

689
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: math wrong. He's eight six eight six, not nine six.

690
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Still good, that's why my math is off. For eight eight.

691
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: My math is still wrong. It was eight feet eight inches,

692
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: which forgot three and twenty nine pounds. Is not not

693
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: half bad, right, not half bad at all. Before we

694
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: get into the two of each, who's surprised Andre Dillard?

695
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: You brought him up. He's a guy, that's the he's

696
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: getting the lion's share of mock drafted to the Texan picks.

697
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: And I thought it was probably a reach to happen,

698
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: meaning I think he's probably gonna go higher before the

699
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: combine and I think now that we saw the stuff

700
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: that he did the combine, especially like the three cone

701
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: all that shuttle stuff, it doesn't look like he's gonna

702
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: get he's if it were, if you were to be

703
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: around to be because there's a lot of quarterbacks and

704
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: defensive lineman chosen earlier. Yeah, he's not getting us at

705
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: twenty three. But I'll tell you who might's that is

706
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams from Alabama, which he's been by a lot

707
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: a lot of folks. He's been like, oh, this is

708
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: the best, this is that guy. But there are some

709
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: things at the combine. There are some things. I mean,

710
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: just the way the way he looked comparatively to the tackles.

711
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, his tape is really good. I think he

712
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: fit would fit us because he's a zone blocking guy.

713
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: He had some problems with some power, especially against Cleveland

714
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Farrell in the championship game against Clemson, UM, he had,

715
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, problems with some power. But so really he's

716
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: the kind of guy. If you said tell me about

717
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: the Texas locker room, every single asset you would list

718
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: is him. He's a gym rat. He can't get enough

719
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: of this, and he's just not a great tester. He's

720
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: a really good football player. But I think Andre Dillard

721
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: just has so many more assets that teams were looking

722
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: for physically that they're gonna go with the guy like

723
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: Adre Diller. Yeah, the problem is you got to escape

724
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: that gauntlet in the in the middle of the draft

725
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: where you've got teams that need tackles. The Panthers need

726
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: to tackle, alse need a center. You have the vikings

727
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: that are there. They they drafted Bryan on Neil last year.

728
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're happy with that. They need

729
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: offensive line to protect, you know, the guaranteed boy Kirk Cousins.

730
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be some teams that need tackle in

731
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: that mix that are in front of the Texans. It's

732
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: gonna be tough Rodrey Dillard and Joe Williams to get there.

733
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: But before the comment, I would have said, ah, man,

734
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Jona Williams is not getting to us.

735
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: After the comment, I'm like, maybe I'd be fine with that.

736
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I'd be all right with that. I'd be fine

737
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, let's flip. Let's flip over to the

738
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: defense and come back to the offense. But name one

739
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: defensive player and I want to get two, but start

740
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: off with one who did something said something that really

741
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: made you turn your head at the combine. Jamal Dean

742
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Auburn six one two h six ran fourth three zero

743
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: four three zero. Now that's got an injury comstry, got

744
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: an injury history, transferred from Ohio State. But when you

745
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: can run like the wind, yeah, and you play cornerback,

746
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: you were gonna get a little bit of love, aren't you.

747
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what the heck he was doing

748
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: before he had three major knee surgeries from twenty thirteen

749
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: to twenty Yeah, I have no idea, But you know,

750
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: he was not a guy that spent a lot of

751
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: time study. I'll be honest about I did not. I

752
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: did not study him a lot. But you go back team,

753
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: now what do you see? But I will I will

754
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: go back and take a look at his at his tape.

755
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good football player at Auburn.

756
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: First of all, admit I didn't realize he was a senior.

757
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't paying attention to that. But I

758
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: thought Auburn's front seven was really good. The front in

759
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: particular was very, very good. So sometimes you kind of

760
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: discount some of the corners, like he looks good because

761
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: that front seven is so good. But I will go

762
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: back and definitely watched him Melde because at six one

763
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: two o six running four three, that guy is prime.

764
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Like he put him on a platter. That's exactly what

765
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the Texans and a lot of teams are gonna be

766
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: looking for. But the Texans are gonna, I would think,

767
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: kick a lot of tires on those knees, make sure

768
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: that they're solid. Now, the last injury he had him

769
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he's not. He's not been injured or had

770
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: any injury history after that. From a knee standpoint, that's

771
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: a long time ago. If I remember one of the games,

772
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: he had a cast on his hand this year, so

773
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: he's played through that year, this year, last year. But

774
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: that's a guy could absolutely When I saw that, I

775
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA. I texted the buddy of mine and

776
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I just said, that guy's gonna be a Texan. I

777
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know number twenty three, fifty four or fifty five,

778
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think he gets out of the second round.

779
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: He's definitely getting out of the second round with that

780
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: kind of speed and that kind of size. So and

781
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I just gotta go figure out

782
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: and go back and watch how good. But I know

783
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: he's a good player because I remember watching him at Auburn.

784
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: He stood out at certain points, but I want to

785
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: go back and see how good he was. We get

786
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: these emails because we work in the video department, and

787
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: they come straight from the NFL network and you can

788
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: choose to activate him and put him up on Houston

789
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: Texans dot com if you want. And basically they send

790
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: every single forty that they record. Yeah and so, and

791
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: it's in the subject lines. You don't have to watch

792
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: the video. You can see what it says. So over

793
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, when corners and safeties were running,

794
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I you know, I was looking. They'll come in succession.

795
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: You'll get like seven or eight at a time and

796
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: it'll just boom boom, boom boom, and anything under four four,

797
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what? And so when I saw that,

798
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: I was like, who is this guy up? And yeah,

799
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: it's it's something and someone who is very intriguing and

800
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you say four to three and you see

801
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: what other teams have done over the last couple of

802
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: years at receiver when they've had success. I'm cool with

803
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a fast guy that could play some corner. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely,

804
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: So he's one defensive player. Who's who's another one? One

805
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: war something that well, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna

806
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: give you two guys. And I don't think the Texas,

807
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: the Texas a will not have a shot at any

808
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: one of them. It's fine, maybe one, but they're not

809
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: going to because their stacker off the ball linebackers and

810
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are pretty good at those positions.

811
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: And it's the two Devons. The two Devons. Devin Bush

812
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: from out of Michigan, whose dad played in the NFL

813
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: as dad played safety at Florida State, and then Devin White,

814
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: linebacker at LSU, drew this every single thing that they did,

815
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: every test that they did, Here's how it went. Devin

816
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: White ran four four two and forty. Devin Bush ran

817
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: four forty three. Linebacker. Devin White did twenty two reps

818
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: to two twenty five. Devin Bush did twenty one. Devin

819
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: White posted a thirty nine and a half inch vertical

820
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Devin Bush junior forty and a half inch vertical. White

821
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: posted a nine foot ten inch broad jump. Devin Bush

822
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: posted a ten foot four inch broad jump. Devin White

823
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: had a seven point zero three short shuttle. Devin Bush

824
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: broke seven seconds with a six point nine three short shuttle.

825
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: These guys are inside linebackers, are off the ball. Linebackers

826
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: coming to the NFL. Now they're six foot two thirty

827
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: seven and you're like, wait a second, what's been arric

828
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Denardrick's like sixty three, sixty four, two fifty five and

829
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: this short amount of time. Bernardrick's kind of a a

830
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: dinosaur in some sense. Like look at every single linebacker

831
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: and look at the weight of every single guy at

832
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: the combine. There aren't many of them over two hundred

833
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: and forty pounds. In fact, I want to say there

834
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: were maybe three or four two thirty five to thirty

835
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: seven to thirty nine to thirty one. That's what players

836
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: are coming in the NFL because they gotta be able

837
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: to cover backs, they got to be able to cover

838
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: tight ends and most supportant. They got to stay on

839
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: the field all three downs. So there's so much that

840
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: they've got to be able to do. And those two guys,

841
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: with what they're doing, I knew they went sideline to sideline.

842
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: I've seen many games of those guys, and I love

843
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: both of them, but I knew we're we're not gonna

844
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: draft these guys. But the way that they run to

845
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: the football, And do you think about Darius Leonard Darry

846
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: shared a four seven at the combine, by the way,

847
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Speaker 1: and think about how he runs sideline to sideline and

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Speaker 1: what he's all he's able to do for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: You think about what Zach Cuttingham does for us, and

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Speaker 1: you see this, and it's the testing is more than

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Speaker 1: matching up with the tape. Absolutely what you're talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you see Devin White go sidled on the sideline

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Speaker 1: and you're like that jokers fast and then he runs

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Speaker 1: the four four two and confirms it. And say with

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush, you see the same thing. You're like, poh man.

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Speaker 1: He goes sideline to sideline and tracks dudes down and

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Speaker 1: then he runs the four four three. So you're seeing

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Speaker 1: the timing match up. I knew they were fast. I

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Speaker 1: did not see four four two or four four three coming?

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Speaker 1: Are they? Where do you put them? Round wise? Now,

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Speaker 1: I think Devin White's top twelve depends on what happens

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Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks. But the Bucks are sitting at pick

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Speaker 1: number five. They have it. They have a knee because

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Speaker 1: it looks like they're not bringing Kwan Alexander back. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna go number one of the Cardinals. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have a kneed two. Um, I think I think he

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Speaker 1: could be in play for Alliance. Obviously, you know Devin Bush.

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Speaker 1: That's a little I would think that White. To me,

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Speaker 1: I have White ahead of bush uh in the in

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Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred. This is between him as I

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Speaker 1: don't want say significant. It's probably eight spots. It's probably

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Speaker 1: a little bit closer. Um, but I think you could

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Speaker 1: take either one of them. It's just kind on which one,

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Speaker 1: which one is available. So you had him like top

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Speaker 1: twenty before them, I had Bush like twenty two. They

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Speaker 1: get dead why like twelve? Okay, okay, And I probably won't.

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Speaker 1: I might move Bush up maybe a few slots, but

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Speaker 1: I but not not too much more. Theoretically this is

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Speaker 1: good for the Texans, absolutely, because absolutely you push these

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Speaker 1: guys into the top two more into the top twenty

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Speaker 1: two that aren't an offensive lie absolutely aren't a corner.

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Speaker 1: That means somebody good might slide to you, And you

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Speaker 1: got a little bonus. Combined discussion there talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the guys that impressed on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. We talked about Kevin Johnson, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the offensive guys that impressed. We did all that on

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Speaker 1: in the Lab, So go check it out wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast iTunes, tune in Stitcher, wherever. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a special podcast page where you go. If

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Speaker 1: that is what you do, go to it, go like it,

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Speaker 1: go favorite it, go do whatever you gotta do, but

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Speaker 1: mainly just listen to it and hopefully you will find

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Speaker 1: some stuff that you like, but that's a little snippet

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Speaker 1: of it, and you listen to the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: Like we said in the Lab podcast, go check out

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Speaker 1: Vandemer's View, Deep Slant and every show Willing my Side.

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Speaker 1: I got the Football Takeover dot com. You can check

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Speaker 1: out the podcast I just posted today talking about the

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Speaker 1: quarterback dominoes in the NFL. So lots of podcasts that

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Speaker 1: you could ultimately listen to, no doubt. Big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Mark the Drew for you guys for listening. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. We will see you tomorrow and as always,

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Speaker 1: go Texans.