Speaker 1: Cutbooms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
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Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
Speaker 1: In the air everywhere. Welcome to another weekend of the
Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Me, Big Ben and Danny g Radio.
Speaker 1: As it is the seventh day of the month of June,
Speaker 1: and my mind is proper I think it is. This
Speaker 1: is our first Friday show for the podcast, because June
Speaker 1: first was what Saturday? Am I correct? I believe correct,
Speaker 1: You're right, Look at that. I'm a human app. I'm
Speaker 1: an app that has the the dates and and all that.
Speaker 3: Well, we just recorded that weekend show yesterday. As that
Speaker 3: listener pointed out, we do all these shows in a
Speaker 3: couple of days in a row.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly. Genius, absolute genius here and so we
Speaker 1: begin the weekend here and I will get into a
Speaker 1: story I promised on the radio show. The original Recipe show,
Speaker 1: not the Extra Spicy, Extra Crispy Podcast. Some stuff that's
Speaker 1: been going on behind the scenes here, So I'll share
Speaker 1: that with you coming up in a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I understand tonight is the final episode of the Wheel
Speaker 1: of Fortune with the Goat? Is that correct, Danny? Am
Speaker 1: I hearing properly that? Today? Is it? It's all over?
Speaker 3: Wheel of Fortune? His last swan, his swan song? Is
Speaker 3: that what they say? This should be a phrase of
Speaker 3: the week swan song.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't make me look at out there. You're trying
Speaker 1: to incite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but say Jack started in nineteen eighty one on
Speaker 3: that show Holy Shiska Bob over forty yeah, over forty
Speaker 3: years ago, and of course Ofvannah White is gonna stay
Speaker 3: on with your boy Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the thing. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: run ins over the years with Pat Say Jack and
Speaker 1: in a really good way, in a really good way,
Speaker 1: and they were all well, they were u sporting him
Speaker 1: as a Dodger stadium. He was a regular at Dodgers Dam.
Speaker 1: He loved the La Kings. It was odd though, because
Speaker 1: Say Jack lives in I think he's in Virginia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've talked about it before on the podcast that
Speaker 3: he'll fly to LA Yeah, tape all those shows and
Speaker 3: then fly back to his home state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite the gig, the nightly game shows like
Speaker 1: Jeopardy and the Wheel of Fortune. Price is right. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure about presses, right, but I know with Jeopardy
Speaker 1: and whatnot, they'll end up filming like five episodes in
Speaker 1: a day, and they'll they'll do a week of shows
Speaker 1: and then they'll go on hiatus for a while and
Speaker 1: then come back and do a week of shows.
Speaker 3: And so, man, imagine if we could do that in radio,
Speaker 3: I'd be.
Speaker 1: Great, man, just roll them all out and then that's it.
Speaker 1: But Sajack was great, and I have some very fun
Speaker 1: memories when I was a young young lad Danny back
Speaker 1: in the day and Stu Nahan who was a big
Speaker 1: time sportscaster in LA when I was a kid, and
Speaker 1: I knew Stu as an adult as a young adult,
Speaker 1: and Stu.
Speaker 3: He was on the Naked Gun movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in a bunch of different movies. I
Speaker 1: just think about baseball as like a character actor behind
Speaker 1: the scenes as a sportscaster. Ironically enough, his nickname was
Speaker 1: Silver Tip. Stu because he was known as a cheap ass.
Speaker 1: But Stu was quite the character. And he was doing
Speaker 1: local television back when it was the Ron Burgundy era
Speaker 1: of television. If you know Anchorman, that old movie Anchorman,
Speaker 1: that's about what it was. I don't know, Ron, that
Speaker 1: sounds kind of crazy. Pat Sajack would. I was hanging
Speaker 1: out at during batting practice at Dodge Stadium one of
Speaker 1: the days years ago, and and Stu was there. And
Speaker 1: Pat Sajak happened to be there because he's Pat f
Speaker 1: and Sajack, you know, do whatever you want. He was
Speaker 1: on the field prior to the game, and he was
Speaker 1: he was going at it was Stu because the famous
Speaker 1: story that Pat Sajack had had told and I know
Speaker 1: he's written about this, It's been written, but it was
Speaker 1: great to hear it from the horse's mouth. When Pat
Speaker 1: Sajak was working at Channel four in LA, the NBC affiliate,
Speaker 1: he got this offer to do the Wheel of Fortune,
Speaker 1: and so he consulted with stun Ahan. He said, what
Speaker 1: do you think is to do? And I think Sayjack
Speaker 1: was like the weather person at the time, and Stu said,
Speaker 1: don't do that. Game shows come and go, but people
Speaker 1: always need the weather, you know, something to that effect,
Speaker 1: and who goofed I've got to know, you know. And
Speaker 1: so anyway, needless to say, Pat would remind Stull regularly
Speaker 1: of that. And actually Pat spoke as to his memorial
Speaker 1: service they had which was right across the street from
Speaker 1: from our studios there, and they rant it out the
Speaker 1: movie theater had like a celebration of life. But first
Speaker 1: two when he passed away, and say Jack was there
Speaker 1: and all that he flew out. But hey, listen, Pat
Speaker 1: sajak Ago, he's not dead, He's just gonna It's one
Speaker 1: of those jobs. Why do you even bother retiring? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like one of those jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just keep doing it.
Speaker 3: I mean a legend in the game show game I
Speaker 3: think I know the answer to this. But if you
Speaker 3: could host one game show, what would it be?
Speaker 1: Well, my favorite when I was a kid was Let's
Speaker 1: make a deal with Monty Hall. I love that. That
Speaker 1: was really cool. I think that's on again. I think
Speaker 1: that's that's a thing. But I loved uh I Whenny
Speaker 1: Big Money Stop. I also like that. That's not on anymore.
Speaker 1: Jokers Wild, No, it wasn't Jokers Wild. I just I'm
Speaker 1: matter a mental block here, but it was what it
Speaker 1: was in It was like a nineteen eighties game show,
Speaker 1: No Aamy nommy stop. What was it called? Press your Luck? Yes,
Speaker 1: press your Luck? That's it. Press your Luck. That was
Speaker 1: kind of cool. But I mean, any game shows, it's
Speaker 1: a great gig. You got a game show, job your set.
Speaker 1: Remember Drew Carey when he was at one point a
Speaker 1: big star in the nineties, right, Drew Carey show was
Speaker 1: very popular. That was in the nineties, right, I think
Speaker 1: that was in the nineties. I think so, yeah, And
Speaker 1: then he kind of he went down a little bit
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he went right back
Speaker 1: up with the game show because he replaced Bob Barker
Speaker 1: as the host of his show, What would you Do? Danny?
Speaker 1: What would your game show?
Speaker 2: Be?
Speaker 3: The newlywed game. As a little kid, they always said whoopee,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what they were talking about.
Speaker 1: Do you now know what they're talking about to you now?
Speaker 3: No? Maybe that could be a word of the week, That.
Speaker 1: Could be the word the word o the we are well.
Speaker 1: Good luck to Pat say Jack who's made an s
Speaker 1: load of money and an old radio contemporary of ours,
Speaker 1: is going to replace him? Is that correct? Am I
Speaker 1: hearing that accurately? The yep, Ryan Seacrest, who when I
Speaker 1: was doing mid days starting out my career mid Days
Speaker 1: in LA and then Seacrest was doing afternoon drive at
Speaker 1: ninety eight seven Star FM. And look at us now, Danny,
Speaker 1: look at us now. Your careers are like a mirror
Speaker 1: of each other. It's a doppelganger, me of him, him
Speaker 1: of me. That's just the way it is. That's the
Speaker 1: way it is.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know this, but the very
Speaker 3: first season of American Idol you were his co host
Speaker 3: on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like to talk about that. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out, but at the time it seemed like a wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful thing. So I wanted to mention something. There's a
Speaker 1: few things that have gone on since we last spoke
Speaker 1: on the pot yess not have you done the radio
Speaker 1: show every night? Well, that's a little different. The radio
Speaker 1: show is different. This is behind the curtain. This is
Speaker 1: how we make the Hawt talks. You're never supposed to
Speaker 1: tell people how you make the Hawt talks. Well, this
Speaker 1: is how we make the hawtthalks. So this past weekend
Speaker 1: kind of a melancholy type of a weekend for several reasons.
Speaker 1: One of them I will get to right now, the
Speaker 1: passing of a friend of mine who worked in the
Speaker 1: media for a long time, TJ. Simers.
Speaker 2: T J.
Speaker 1: Simers is a longtime newspaper man, one of the last
Speaker 1: great columnists in America when that mattered, and that meant something.
Speaker 1: To be a columnist in a newspaper doesn't mean much now,
Speaker 1: but back in the day it meant a lot. I've
Speaker 1: read his columns in the nineties. Yeah, I loved TJ's
Speaker 1: work as a columnist, and I got to call him
Speaker 1: a friend, which was even cooler. And he died. He
Speaker 1: had brain cancer, and he died on Sunday. But as
Speaker 1: Paul Harvey would say, that's the news. But now you're
Speaker 1: going to get the rest of the story. And this
Speaker 1: is something that I haven't We talked about. It was
Speaker 1: a private matter and I didn't want to get into
Speaker 1: it here. I didn't do it to get any kind
Speaker 1: of attention, not that I would get attention for it anyway.
Speaker 1: But I was alerted several months back that TJ had
Speaker 1: brain cancer by a mutual friend of ours, my friend Jay,
Speaker 1: who used to be a big editor at the La
Speaker 1: Times back in the day, and so we were ahead.
Speaker 1: We got to see TJ. And so, starting I would say,
Speaker 1: three months ago, once every couple of weeks we went
Speaker 1: to TJ's house. He had been bedridden. Was you know,
Speaker 1: he had made the decision and I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too much into this is his family's decision, but
Speaker 1: he he had decided that you know, this was not
Speaker 1: this was going to be the end, and he had
Speaker 1: incurable brain cancer and rather than try some experimental stuff
Speaker 1: and he did try one experiment mental thing, he just
Speaker 1: made the decision that this was going to be how
Speaker 1: he would check out, and you know, we all have
Speaker 1: to die some way, and this was you know, he
Speaker 1: just figured this is it and there's nothing I can
Speaker 1: do it. And so I was able to visit him
Speaker 1: and we'd go and chat. The first time he went
Speaker 1: was we were there a couple hours and actually I
Speaker 1: made him cookies. The last couple of times I saw
Speaker 1: him the Tuesday, oh nice, yeah, he uh, the Tuesday
Speaker 1: before before he passed away, we were at his house,
Speaker 1: you know, bullshitting, you know, talking about nas and we
Speaker 1: didn't really talk that much sports. We started out talking
Speaker 1: sports and TJ was on this podcast I think the
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty three, I believe we yeah had
Speaker 1: them on.
Speaker 3: Oh I remember that, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was great. We told a lot of
Speaker 1: the stories on that podcast. My favorite TJ stories when
Speaker 1: TJ took over as the columnist in page two, which
Speaker 1: was a big deal in the LA Times, and I
Speaker 1: think he replaced Jim Murray if I remember remember correctly,
Speaker 1: But either way, TJ was a football writer. The first
Speaker 1: time I ever interacted interacted with TJ, he was a
Speaker 1: San Diego based The LA Times had a bureau in
Speaker 1: San Diego, charger beat reporter. He then became the NFL
Speaker 1: columnist when in his time as the NFL columnist, the
Speaker 1: LA market lost the Rams and the Raiders. They both left,
Speaker 1: and so TJ was writing about the NFL when there
Speaker 1: was no NFL in the market. And at that time,
Speaker 1: the NFL was popular, but it was not nearly as
Speaker 1: popular as it is these days. And so anyway, TJ
Speaker 1: would write about the NFL, and often what he would
Speaker 1: do is go to these big events and pester the
Speaker 1: commissioner when is LA going to get a team? Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah blah, and that was his thing. But
Speaker 1: I had him on. I was. It was in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I was like in my early twenties doing a talk
Speaker 1: show with Dave Smith. We had on the old Ben
Speaker 1: and Dave Show. We had tj on in the middle
Speaker 1: of the interview did not like the questions that we
Speaker 1: were asking, so he yelled at us and then hung
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the interview. And I still
Speaker 1: I brought that up to him. Actually, this past last
Speaker 1: time I saw him, were talking about some of the
Speaker 1: old old stories.
Speaker 3: That was at that point in his career. Was he
Speaker 3: cool with you or did he not really know you?
Speaker 1: At that point? No, I thought he hated me. I
Speaker 1: thought he despised me. And the turning point was when
Speaker 1: I was doing stuff with the Dodgers, and then he
Speaker 1: took over as the columnist for the Times and he
Speaker 1: would go out. Davy Johnson was the Dodger manager, and
Speaker 1: Davy had a lot of success with the Mets and
Speaker 1: was really living off that success he had managing the Mets,
Speaker 1: who had a bunch of guys that hit a lot
Speaker 1: of home runs and cocaine, the eighty six Mets, and
Speaker 1: he was the manager of that team, and so you know,
Speaker 1: he's just kind of going through the motions. And when
Speaker 1: TJ took over, he came out as a flame throw.
Speaker 1: He just was hammering everybody. And the LA media was
Speaker 1: not used. That was not how they operate. The teams
Speaker 1: in LA didn't know how to handle that at all.
Speaker 1: They were like freaking out right. They were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know this guy is you know, he's
Speaker 1: stirring up a hornets nest here. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: And it was so bad. One of the Dodger beat
Speaker 1: writers went to every player on the team for the
Speaker 1: LA Times Dodger beat writer and talked to every player
Speaker 1: and said, I'm not with that guy, like because he
Speaker 1: was that much of a loose cannon and all that.
Speaker 1: But I loved it. I mean, I thought it was
Speaker 1: the greatest thing. That's that's how I was raised to approach.
Speaker 1: You know, sports, you're supposed to be critical and you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to kiss the player's ass. You're not part
Speaker 1: of the team. You're supposed to question some things here
Speaker 1: and hold people accountable. And TJ did that. He used
Speaker 1: to call the owner, Frank McCord, the Boston parking lot
Speaker 1: of Tendant was what he called Frank mc court and
Speaker 1: just would slay him every day. And you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: TJ got in a lot of trouble for that because
Speaker 1: the one of the big advertisers for the La Times
Speaker 1: was the Dodgers. They would buy huge, you know, full
Speaker 1: full page ads in the newspaper and that was a
Speaker 1: big old deal. Right, You're attacking an advertiser, so that
Speaker 1: was a problem. My favorite all time TJ story, though
Speaker 1: I have several, as we pay respects to the great
Speaker 1: late TJ. Simers. When he was it was working for
Speaker 1: the Orange County Register, but he did this starting at
Speaker 1: the LA Times. He would take shots at Artie Marino.
Speaker 1: He'd called him angry Artie, and Artie Marino got so
Speaker 1: upset with TJ. Simers that he literally punished all of
Speaker 1: the media in Los Angeles. This is one of my
Speaker 1: all time great stories of a rogue owner being so
Speaker 1: upset with a revolutionary media guy that this thing escalated
Speaker 1: into a nuclear situation. Because it turns out Artie Marino
Speaker 1: moved the press box at the Big A from behind
Speaker 1: home plate where it had been since the stadium opened,
Speaker 1: and that's traditionally where every single press box is right,
Speaker 1: there's only a couple that aren't there. And he moved
Speaker 1: it down near the pearly gates, down near the right
Speaker 1: field foul pole, where you the media can't even see
Speaker 1: the game from the press box. And he did that
Speaker 1: because of TJ Simers, because he was so upset with
Speaker 1: TJ Simers and what a mischief maker TJ was, and
Speaker 1: how agitating he was, you know, just really annoying Marino.
Speaker 1: He just he said, all right, we'll move the press
Speaker 1: box and he did. And but you know, TJ had
Speaker 1: a gruff exture. He wasn't for everybody. He wasn't. But
Speaker 1: the thing that I love about and TJ. We were
Speaker 1: actually talking about this also over the last couple of
Speaker 1: times I saw him, was he became friends with Vin Scully,
Speaker 1: Chick Hern, Bob Miller, these iconic podcasters in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Was buddies with John Wooden and Kobe Bryant. These people
Speaker 1: loved it, and we were telling he was telling me
Speaker 1: stories about John Wooden and he said that wouldn't hated
Speaker 1: being called the Wizard of Westwood and he did not
Speaker 1: like the fact that everywhere he went people kissed his
Speaker 1: ass and TJ didn't kiss his ass and busted his
Speaker 1: chops and wouldn't loved it. He loved it. Was a
Speaker 1: great story about that. And Kobe Bryant also liked the
Speaker 1: approach that that TJ had. I it was a Mamba
Speaker 1: mentality or not, but he didn't hold back and Kobe
Speaker 1: Kobe respected that.
Speaker 3: So you talked about that Fullerton restaurant and I saw
Speaker 3: an Instagram story on it a real just this past week,
Speaker 3: and it said that he told the staff there at
Speaker 3: that restaurant he loved being treated like a regular customer,
Speaker 3: like he was just a regular dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people who are when you get to a certain level,
Speaker 1: you don't like that. You're like, no, I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just a normal person. I just happened to be
Speaker 1: good at something like that. So I wanted to really
Speaker 1: say a tip of the headphones to TJ. I will
Speaker 1: I will miss his wisdom. I mean, it has been
Speaker 1: been away from the media business for a number of years.
Speaker 1: He was doing a blog for a while. He this
Speaker 1: just happened by the way I think he found out.
Speaker 1: He fell down in I want to say maybe April
Speaker 1: and something like that might have been Yeah, it might
Speaker 1: have been March. I mean, it was real quick. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a long situation from when it began to
Speaker 1: when it ended. So but in one of a kind,
Speaker 1: there's really nobody else like him, at least in the
Speaker 1: LA media. I mean, Teach is a guy that was
Speaker 1: on that show Around the Horn on ESPN and said
Speaker 1: how much he hated the show while on the show,
Speaker 1: and they ended up getting getting rid of him. And
Speaker 1: then I've told in the past, in fact, we should
Speaker 1: probably linked to that conversation we had with TJ. But
Speaker 1: there was an incident with Dwight Howard when Dwight came
Speaker 1: over and the Lakers had this supposedly the super team
Speaker 1: with Dwight Howard and Steve Nash, except they they couldn't
Speaker 1: they couldn't play. They were terrible together. And that thing
Speaker 1: skyrocketed right into the ground. And when the opposite direction,
Speaker 1: it was a dud. And one day Dwight Howard walks
Speaker 1: into the Laker locker room. He's all depressed and he's cursing,
Speaker 1: and what's this all about? And it turns out that
Speaker 1: Dwight was upset because at that time Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: and Skip Bayless were working together and they had said
Speaker 1: some mean things about Dwight and he was annoyed by that.
Speaker 1: And so THENDJ he goes up to just Dwight. You know,
Speaker 1: no one watches that show, Dwight the rating, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're upset. Why are you upset? I can show
Speaker 1: you the ratings that show gets. No nobody's watching. It
Speaker 1: was the funny and Dwight could not wrap his head
Speaker 1: around the fact that that show had very few people watching.
Speaker 1: In his head, everyone was watching that particular show, and
Speaker 1: it's it was. It was pretty amusing, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was great. And TJ did actually listen to the
Speaker 1: Overnight show and didn't hate it, which was which was
Speaker 1: a nice thing as well. Good for my good for
Speaker 1: my ego. So I rest in peace the late great TJ. Simons,
Speaker 1: who passed away on this past Sunday. I also, before
Speaker 1: I get any further, I did want to mention that
Speaker 1: we had one oversight on Big Ben's Big Board. Not
Speaker 1: a list, Danny, not a list, Big Ben's Big Boy.
Speaker 3: It was a really good list. So I'm curious to
Speaker 3: hear what we missed.
Speaker 1: So we had the Street takeover, the Burn, Baby Burn,
Speaker 1: the Casey Kasem thing wrong, Button, Bob All that the
Speaker 1: shooting gallery, the mobster Henry Hill. But I forgot about
Speaker 1: this one classic story, the night the bats got in
Speaker 1: the studio. Do do do Do do do? Batman? Do
Speaker 1: do do do? Do do do? Batman? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was during Roberto the bus Driver's tenure, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it happened multiple times that bat's got in
Speaker 1: the studio. I was not there one of the times.
Speaker 1: That's probably why I had forgotten, But I was there
Speaker 1: the other time, and we actually did live coverage. We
Speaker 1: had boots on the ground, yes, outside, as this story developed,
Speaker 1: we were there.
Speaker 3: Was it Mike Carmon on a phone, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Harmon was on the phone. We had there were several
Speaker 1: people involved. We had one person was the door guy
Speaker 1: to leave the door to the courtyard open. But then
Speaker 1: there was a chase guy that like chasing tornadoes, trying
Speaker 1: to push good luck pushing a bat out of the studio.
Speaker 1: And remember they thought the bat was gone, but the
Speaker 1: bat was actually hiding at one point. But there was
Speaker 1: a successful movement to get the bat out. But I
Speaker 1: do recall that, and so thank you. Several of you
Speaker 1: reached out to me via social media and email at
Speaker 1: the fifth hour email address to let us know about
Speaker 1: that I had forgotten and that is a that is
Speaker 1: a thing that did happen. If you want to send
Speaker 1: me an email about the mail bag or anything else,
Speaker 1: we do the mail bag on Sunday, but you don't
Speaker 1: have to wait till Sunday. Real fifth Hour at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com, Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com if
Speaker 1: you'd like to be part of this. I was the
Speaker 1: one that everyone agreed we fed up on on Big
Speaker 1: Ben's big board was the bad thing. There were some
Speaker 1: other stuff brought up, but that well.
Speaker 3: We should have pretended like you did it on purpose,
Speaker 3: just like when you mess up on something your old line.
Speaker 3: I did it to see if you were paying attention.
Speaker 1: That's not aligne Danny, That's that's the truth. I could
Speaker 1: do a perfect show. I could. I was taught by
Speaker 1: my radio mentor my radio mentor Rick these Then you
Speaker 1: just make a mistake every once in a while. It
Speaker 1: humanizes you. You gotta be human. I gonna be relatable to
Speaker 1: the to the common person is as they say, the
Speaker 1: lay person.
Speaker 3: Timed out for the phrase of the week, the phrase
Speaker 3: of the week.
Speaker 1: Praise of the week this week by request. If you
Speaker 1: want to send a request in I will consider it.
Speaker 3: Oh swansong.
Speaker 1: No, this is from Nick in Wisconsin. He wants to
Speaker 1: know the origins of ifs and butts were candy and nuts,
Speaker 1: it would be Christmas every day nuts? All right, So
Speaker 1: let's get to this now. I was blown away by
Speaker 1: this one. I'm so happy Nick requested this. I used
Speaker 1: this line every once in a while, Danny, if if
Speaker 1: some butts were candy and nuts to be Christmas every day.
Speaker 1: It turns out it actually originated with someone in sports.
Speaker 1: Isn't that mind blowing? I say, it's mind blowing. So
Speaker 1: let's take you in the way back machine. The origins
Speaker 1: of the word ifs and butts were candy and nuts,
Speaker 1: be Christmas every day, or something along those lines. It
Speaker 1: was actually coined by a Dallas cowboy, Dandy Don Meredith.
Speaker 3: I'll turn out the lots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's one of the he's over, one of
Speaker 1: the great tributes that we give to him, turn out
Speaker 1: the lights, the parties over.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, back in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy or four before
Speaker 1: our time, Danny g but Don Meredith was a commentator
Speaker 1: with Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football and.
Speaker 3: We literally were not born yet.
Speaker 1: And which is shocking at this point. I feel like
Speaker 1: everything we talk about we were born for you happen
Speaker 1: during our watch anyway. Howard Cosell during the broadcast, I
Speaker 1: have a transcript of it. He said, if Los Angeles
Speaker 1: meeting the Rams, if the Rams win, it's a big one,
Speaker 1: but San Francisco is still very much in it. Don Meredith,
Speaker 1: a color commentary here, then responded, if if sent butts
Speaker 1: were candy and nuts, we all have a merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: And Cosell responded, I didn't think you'd remember that old canard,
Speaker 1: and then Don said, is that but it was? Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out that what Don Meredith had done is
Speaker 1: he had taken an old proverb from the nineteenth century
Speaker 1: and repackaged it as his own. The original statement was
Speaker 1: if as were pots and pans, if st Ann's were
Speaker 1: pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers hands.
Speaker 1: And that proverb goes back to expressing a regret like
Speaker 1: if only we had money, or you know, only I
Speaker 1: had the right connections, I'd be famous that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But Don Meredith twisted that around and it became what
Speaker 1: it became, which is if some and butts were candy
Speaker 1: and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. The one
Speaker 1: I hear more often is if some butts were candy
Speaker 1: and nuts, be Christmas every day. But either way you
Speaker 1: can thank Don Meredith. That phrase has been around as
Speaker 1: that phrase for over fifty years now, over fifty years
Speaker 1: of that nonsense. So that is the phrase of the week,
Speaker 1: the phrase of the week.
Speaker 3: I wonder in the future if there's a podcast, like
Speaker 3: in the year twenty fifty and they do a phrase
Speaker 3: of the week, Yeah, and the host will be like,
Speaker 3: in the air everywhere where did that come from?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what? Gas baggery came up with that?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do some foody fun? We can
Speaker 1: do a little foody fun. Why now we'll Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do it fun. We'll get out on the foody fun.
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right. We all love our food.
Speaker 1: Food very important here. And there's several food stories that
Speaker 1: caught my attention. Some of them were sent by p
Speaker 1: ones to this show that wanted us to be fully
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on. I read that cracker barrel
Speaker 1: you ever been You've been a cracker barrel right at
Speaker 1: some point? Now, no, I haven't done there yet, all right,
Speaker 1: and it's a Southern chain, but yeah, they do have locations.
Speaker 3: My chickadee went there with one of her kids and
Speaker 3: they brought me back some biscuits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give you a lot of food, large portions of food,
Speaker 1: Southern food. But here's the thing. The CEO of Cracker
Speaker 1: Barrel said this week they want the chain to become hip.
Speaker 1: You said the brand, The CEO said, the brand has
Speaker 1: quote lost some of it shine and they have plans
Speaker 1: to regain relevance to become hip. How Danny, you're the
Speaker 1: food guy, how can Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 3: Get emc hammer online one.
Speaker 1: That's what you recommend?
Speaker 3: Yes, well, there's some things some other Their logo looks
Speaker 3: old fashioned. Everything about the restaurant looks old fashioned. So
Speaker 3: how are you going to go from that to being hip?
Speaker 1: Well, you have to reinvent yourself. But then the problem
Speaker 1: is if you reinvent yourself, you lose the base. You
Speaker 1: can't lose the bass, So you do have to thread
Speaker 1: a needle. I have to threat a needle a little
Speaker 1: bit because you don't want to lose your bass and
Speaker 1: you want to you want to bring new people in.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when NASCAR opened things up and
Speaker 1: they started racing in La and uh well, the Inland
Speaker 1: Empire and Vegas. Remember he upset people in the South work? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the good old boys did not like the fact that
Speaker 1: NASCAR was going away from the Mason Dixon line.
Speaker 3: They were annoyed by that. They'd really not like this idea.
Speaker 3: Then I would pay the Kardashians some a big pile
Speaker 3: of cash under the table and have them visit the
Speaker 3: Cracker barrel in Camarillo, California, not too far from Calabasas,
Speaker 3: and they could do like some business lunches and stuff
Speaker 3: inside the Cracker barrel. That would put them right smack
Speaker 3: dab in the middle of the TMZ type websites.
Speaker 1: Courtney is kind of like emotionally cold. Yeah. Now what
Speaker 1: else is in food as well? Taco Bell introducing this
Speaker 1: week the big cheese It crunch rap. Does that do
Speaker 1: anything for you? I love the Mexican people. The cheese
Speaker 1: It cracker that's sixteen times larger than the standard cheese
Speaker 1: At cracker goes into the great detail here. Taco Bell
Speaker 1: and Cheese It have joined forces, a collab, a cofab brother,
Speaker 1: and a big cheese Big Cheese It crunch Rap Supreme
Speaker 1: and Big Cheese It Tostada. Huh. A mouth watering lineup
Speaker 1: of cheesy creation that is sure to thrill fans everywhere.
Speaker 1: You thrilled Danny by this.
Speaker 3: Well, I might try the tostada. That sounds interesting. I
Speaker 3: do like cheese its, especially though the ones that are
Speaker 3: kind of burnt. They even sell the boxes where they're
Speaker 3: all burnt, so like, yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: Done, cheese its.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I guess it sounds weird, but
Speaker 3: I'd be willing to try it.
Speaker 1: So you can get the Big cheese Big cheese At Box.
Speaker 1: This box includes the Big cheese At crunch Rap Supreme,
Speaker 1: a beefy five layer burrito, regular sized nacho fries and
Speaker 1: Nacho Cheese Song, and a medium soft drink for eight
Speaker 1: ninety nine and seventy five calories. Yes, the Big cheese
Speaker 1: It Destata that features the Big Cheese It Cracker, topped
Speaker 1: with layers of taco bell seasoned beef, dice, tomatoes, crisp lettuce,
Speaker 1: shredded cheese, and cool reduced fat sour cream. I like
Speaker 1: that they had to put reduced fat sour cream on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really important. I wasn't e gonna get it, but
Speaker 1: now you put you put the reduced fat in there,
Speaker 1: so I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm good now the old joke. Get a diet coke
Speaker 3: with it and make everything better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't really see skinny people drinking diet Cokeven
Speaker 1: about the old joke right back in the day. You
Speaker 1: don't see that. But anyway, enjoy that. And it thinks
Speaker 1: to alf who sent that along, the great alien o Piner.
Speaker 3: It was really rude. By the way, I'm holding a
Speaker 3: diet coke in my hand right now, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's see a Windy's launch.
Speaker 3: You called me fat?
Speaker 2: Do you drink water and no water at all?
Speaker 1: Okay? All right?
Speaker 2: And then what are you drinking during the day?
Speaker 3: Sodis?
Speaker 1: No? Why have you? Maybe I did?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wendy's launching a new Saucy Nugs campaign, seven flavors including honey, barbecue, spicy, ghost, pepper, garlic, palm,
Speaker 1: and more. It's available nationwide. That starts June tenth, So
Speaker 1: we still have a few days. That starts on. Is
Speaker 1: that Monday, June tenth? What's the date? I think Monday?
Speaker 3: Am I running that?
Speaker 1: Today's the seventh eighth yeah, Monday. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm living in the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Plus, we recorded this last weekend exactly, and your favorite
Speaker 3: all time favorite.
Speaker 1: Arby's is in the foody news this week. Arby's introducing
Speaker 1: the new cherry barbecue brisket sandwich in Canada. Ew that
Speaker 1: sounds terrible. That sounds disgusting, is what that sounds like.
Speaker 1: But that's if you're in Canada.
Speaker 3: Does it have poutine in it?
Speaker 1: I did not. I do not see any poutine on here.
Speaker 3: It's all I know about Canada that mountains, glorious mountains
Speaker 3: and beautiful scenery and mooses and poutine and hockey and hockey.
Speaker 3: What is good luck to the Oilers tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Oh? Come, oh, this is a story night.
Speaker 3: Eddie Curtseys stood up. Oh yes, sang oh Canada.
Speaker 1: Well now this week he got upset with me because
Speaker 1: I picked the Edmonton Oilers to win in Eddie's Anti
Speaker 1: Edmonton and so so Garcia's like, oh you're a Canadian,
Speaker 1: You're yeah, I forgot about that. I got to bring
Speaker 1: that up. He rose to attention that Canadian national.
Speaker 3: Aand did he took his hat off and he was
Speaker 3: very respectful. The rest of us were laughing.
Speaker 1: All right, well, here's an Olive Garden in the news. Here,
Speaker 1: never ending soup or salad and breadsticks for free. But
Speaker 1: there is a catch. There's a catch. You can order
Speaker 1: an adult andre and in restaurant only Olive Garden entree
Speaker 1: three thousand, Yeah, something like that. They will they will
Speaker 1: continue unlimited breadsticks and never ending soup or salad for
Speaker 1: free with any entree ordered. And so they say that's
Speaker 1: been the way it's been at Olive Garden, and they're
Speaker 1: not they're not getting rid of it. They said, Olive
Speaker 1: Garden serves Did you see this per year? How many
Speaker 1: breadsticks they serve per year? Did you see the number? One?
Speaker 1: All right, take a guess. What do you think?
Speaker 3: I say, two hundred and three thousand breadsticks?
Speaker 1: Danny, it's a national chain, Dan. Okay, see how many?
Speaker 1: How many locations? Let's see how many locations for Olive Garden.
Speaker 3: Let's start with The reason I went low is because
Speaker 3: we've gone there once in five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My grandfather in law, Luigi, may he rest in peace.
Speaker 1: This is so funny. The guy's from Italy. Right, you
Speaker 1: don't get any more authentic Italian than a guy named
Speaker 1: Luigi who's from Italy. He was born and lived there
Speaker 1: until he was a young adult and moved his family.
Speaker 1: He loved it, right, loved it, and he loved it,
Speaker 1: absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3: And here's the reason why Mexican people love Taco bell.
Speaker 3: That's not authentic, that's American, that's gringo. That's the gringo
Speaker 3: take on it. But to them, it's like fast food version.
Speaker 3: It's just a nice switch up.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, according to the interweb, which is
Speaker 1: never wrong, Danny, never wrong, there are at this moment
Speaker 1: over nine hundred Olive Garden locations.
Speaker 3: So would you like to change your answer? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: going to say one point seven million breadsticks.
Speaker 1: All right, pens down, reveal answers, Reveal answers. Alive Garden
Speaker 1: serves seven hundred and forty four million bread sticks. What
Speaker 1: a year? What bullshit? That's what they're they're claiming.
Speaker 3: That's bs. You don't believe them, No, you mean they're lying.
Speaker 3: That's an over exaggerated no, that's what they said. They
Speaker 3: do the math really quick. Hold, I'm doing the math alright.
Speaker 1: So seven hundred and forty four million divided by how
Speaker 1: many of us say nine hundred? Yeah, nine hundred per location.
Speaker 1: That's to the math, that's too many. That's eight hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty six thousand bread sticks. I think I'm right
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I think eight two six six six
Speaker 1: six Sign of the Devil. So yeah, that seems like
Speaker 1: a little lunch, isn't it. I know they're not that big,
Speaker 1: and you get a basket of them every time you
Speaker 1: get them. But that's a little bit much.
Speaker 3: Let's see what the listeners think on our eight hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand streams we have on this podcast this weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, we will get out on that. Any anything
Speaker 1: going on. I know it's National Donut Day today, which
Speaker 1: is always a big holiday celebrated National Donut Day today
Speaker 1: with Colvino and Rich. You know what I like, not
Speaker 1: your cinnamon roll what you claim donut? That's my favorite donut.
Speaker 1: You know you like it too. The apple fritter. Apple
Speaker 1: Fritter's great. Yeah, I love apple fritter donuts.
Speaker 3: How about you number one on your list? You're your
Speaker 3: big boy.
Speaker 1: Well, cinnamon roll, apple fritter. Lately it's been apple fritter.
Speaker 1: I love that. I used to live near donut man,
Speaker 1: and they had the tigertail donut, which is a great
Speaker 1: It's like a cinnamon spin thing. It's like the size
Speaker 1: of your forearm and it's great.
Speaker 3: Gotta say the jelly filled is delicious too. I mean,
Speaker 3: after you've done eating it, you feel like you're gonna die.
Speaker 3: It is really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has National Donut Day today. And the top
Speaker 1: flavor the number one flavor for donuts, you know what
Speaker 1: it is, no glazed, glazed. Most popular. Number two is
Speaker 1: the Boston cream donut, followed by the chocolate frosted, the
Speaker 1: jelly filled, and then the chocolate cake.
Speaker 3: Cake donuts are gross. Yeah, it's not done it. I
Speaker 3: don't know they'd be gross, But.
Speaker 1: I'm not my favorite, not my favorite. And the two
Speaker 1: massive donut companies are Krispy Kreme and Dunkin Donuts. But
Speaker 1: then you got like Tim Hortons does very well, Voodoo Donuts,
Speaker 1: but they all get a small percent. Krispy Kreme gets
Speaker 1: forty one percent, Dunkin Donuts gets forty percent of donut
Speaker 1: sales in America. So all right, having a wonderful, wonderful day,
Speaker 1: and we'll catch you all weekend long, got new podcast
Speaker 1: coming out for you new audio content on Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you then. Asta pasta got a murder.
Speaker 3: I gotta go.