1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Cutbooms. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: In the air everywhere. Welcome to another weekend of the 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Me, Big Ben and Danny g Radio. 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: As it is the seventh day of the month of June, 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: and my mind is proper I think it is. This 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: is our first Friday show for the podcast, because June 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: first was what Saturday? Am I correct? I believe correct, 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: You're right, Look at that. I'm a human app. I'm 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: an app that has the the dates and and all that. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Well, we just recorded that weekend show yesterday. As that 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: listener pointed out, we do all these shows in a 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: couple of days in a row. 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly. Genius, absolute genius here and so we 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: begin the weekend here and I will get into a 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: story I promised on the radio show. The original Recipe show, 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: not the Extra Spicy, Extra Crispy Podcast. Some stuff that's 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: been going on behind the scenes here, So I'll share 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: that with you coming up in a little bit. But 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: I understand tonight is the final episode of the Wheel 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of Fortune with the Goat? Is that correct, Danny? Am 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I hearing properly that? Today? Is it? It's all over? 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: Wheel of Fortune? His last swan, his swan song? Is 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: that what they say? This should be a phrase of 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: the week swan song. 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh, don't make me look at out there. You're trying 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: to incite. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but say Jack started in nineteen eighty one on 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: that show Holy Shiska Bob over forty yeah, over forty 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: years ago, and of course Ofvannah White is gonna stay 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: on with your boy Ryan Seacrest. 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the thing. I had a couple of 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: run ins over the years with Pat Say Jack and 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: in a really good way, in a really good way, 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and they were all well, they were u sporting him 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: as a Dodger stadium. He was a regular at Dodgers Dam. 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: He loved the La Kings. It was odd though, because 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Say Jack lives in I think he's in Virginia. 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've talked about it before on the podcast that 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: he'll fly to LA Yeah, tape all those shows and 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: then fly back to his home state. 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite the gig, the nightly game shows like 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Jeopardy and the Wheel of Fortune. Price is right. I'm 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: not sure about presses, right, but I know with Jeopardy 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: and whatnot, they'll end up filming like five episodes in 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: a day, and they'll they'll do a week of shows 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: and then they'll go on hiatus for a while and 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: then come back and do a week of shows. 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 3: And so, man, imagine if we could do that in radio, 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: I'd be. 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: Great, man, just roll them all out and then that's it. 59 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: But Sajack was great, and I have some very fun 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: memories when I was a young young lad Danny back 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: in the day and Stu Nahan who was a big 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: time sportscaster in LA when I was a kid, and 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I knew Stu as an adult as a young adult, 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: and Stu. 65 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: He was on the Naked Gun movies. 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in a bunch of different movies. I 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: just think about baseball as like a character actor behind 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: the scenes as a sportscaster. Ironically enough, his nickname was 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Silver Tip. Stu because he was known as a cheap ass. 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: But Stu was quite the character. And he was doing 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: local television back when it was the Ron Burgundy era 72 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of television. If you know Anchorman, that old movie Anchorman, 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: that's about what it was. I don't know, Ron, that 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: sounds kind of crazy. Pat Sajack would. I was hanging 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: out at during batting practice at Dodge Stadium one of 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the days years ago, and and Stu was there. And 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Pat Sajak happened to be there because he's Pat f 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: and Sajack, you know, do whatever you want. He was 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: on the field prior to the game, and he was 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: he was going at it was Stu because the famous 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: story that Pat Sajack had had told and I know 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: he's written about this, It's been written, but it was 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: great to hear it from the horse's mouth. When Pat 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Sajak was working at Channel four in LA, the NBC affiliate, 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: he got this offer to do the Wheel of Fortune, 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: and so he consulted with stun Ahan. He said, what 87 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: do you think is to do? And I think Sayjack 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: was like the weather person at the time, and Stu said, 89 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: don't do that. Game shows come and go, but people 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: always need the weather, you know, something to that effect, 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and who goofed I've got to know, you know. And 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: so anyway, needless to say, Pat would remind Stull regularly 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of that. And actually Pat spoke as to his memorial 94 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: service they had which was right across the street from 95 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: from our studios there, and they rant it out the 96 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: movie theater had like a celebration of life. But first 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: two when he passed away, and say Jack was there 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: and all that he flew out. But hey, listen, Pat 99 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: sajak Ago, he's not dead, He's just gonna It's one 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: of those jobs. Why do you even bother retiring? You 101 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like one of those jobs. Yeah, 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: just keep doing it. 103 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: I mean a legend in the game show game I 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: think I know the answer to this. But if you 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: could host one game show, what would it be? 106 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, my favorite when I was a kid was Let's 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: make a deal with Monty Hall. I love that. That 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: was really cool. I think that's on again. I think 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: that's that's a thing. But I loved uh I Whenny 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: Big Money Stop. I also like that. That's not on anymore. 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Jokers Wild, No, it wasn't Jokers Wild. I just I'm 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: matter a mental block here, but it was what it 113 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: was in It was like a nineteen eighties game show, 114 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: No Aamy nommy stop. What was it called? Press your Luck? Yes, 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: press your Luck? That's it. Press your Luck. That was 116 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of cool. But I mean, any game shows, it's 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a great gig. You got a game show, job your set. 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Remember Drew Carey when he was at one point a 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: big star in the nineties, right, Drew Carey show was 120 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: very popular. That was in the nineties, right, I think 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: that was in the nineties. I think so, yeah, And 122 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: then he kind of he went down a little bit 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he went right back 124 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: up with the game show because he replaced Bob Barker 125 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: as the host of his show, What would you Do? Danny? 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: What would your game show? 127 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Be? 128 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: The newlywed game. As a little kid, they always said whoopee, 129 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: and I didn't know what they were talking about. 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: Do you now know what they're talking about to you now? 131 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: No? Maybe that could be a word of the week, That. 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Could be the word the word o the we are well. 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: Good luck to Pat say Jack who's made an s 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: load of money and an old radio contemporary of ours, 135 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: is going to replace him? Is that correct? Am I 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: hearing that accurately? The yep, Ryan Seacrest, who when I 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: was doing mid days starting out my career mid Days 138 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: in LA and then Seacrest was doing afternoon drive at 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: ninety eight seven Star FM. And look at us now, Danny, 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: look at us now. Your careers are like a mirror 141 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of each other. It's a doppelganger, me of him, him 142 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: of me. That's just the way it is. That's the 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: way it is. 144 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know this, but the very 145 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: first season of American Idol you were his co host 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: on TV. 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like to talk about that. It didn't 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: work out, but at the time it seemed like a wonderful, 149 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: wonderful thing. So I wanted to mention something. There's a 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: few things that have gone on since we last spoke 151 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: on the pot yess not have you done the radio 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: show every night? Well, that's a little different. The radio 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: show is different. This is behind the curtain. This is 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: how we make the Hawt talks. You're never supposed to 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: tell people how you make the Hawt talks. Well, this 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: is how we make the hawtthalks. So this past weekend 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of a melancholy type of a weekend for several reasons. 158 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: One of them I will get to right now, the 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: passing of a friend of mine who worked in the 160 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: media for a long time, TJ. Simers. 161 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: T J. 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: Simers is a longtime newspaper man, one of the last 163 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: great columnists in America when that mattered, and that meant something. 164 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: To be a columnist in a newspaper doesn't mean much now, 165 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: but back in the day it meant a lot. I've 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,119 Speaker 1: read his columns in the nineties. Yeah, I loved TJ's 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: work as a columnist, and I got to call him 168 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: a friend, which was even cooler. And he died. He 169 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: had brain cancer, and he died on Sunday. But as 170 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: Paul Harvey would say, that's the news. But now you're 171 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: going to get the rest of the story. And this 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: is something that I haven't We talked about. It was 173 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: a private matter and I didn't want to get into 174 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: it here. I didn't do it to get any kind 175 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: of attention, not that I would get attention for it anyway. 176 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: But I was alerted several months back that TJ had 177 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: brain cancer by a mutual friend of ours, my friend Jay, 178 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: who used to be a big editor at the La 179 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Times back in the day, and so we were ahead. 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: We got to see TJ. And so, starting I would say, 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: three months ago, once every couple of weeks we went 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to TJ's house. He had been bedridden. Was you know, 183 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: he had made the decision and I don't want to 184 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: get too much into this is his family's decision, but 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: he he had decided that you know, this was not 186 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: this was going to be the end, and he had 187 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: incurable brain cancer and rather than try some experimental stuff 188 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: and he did try one experiment mental thing, he just 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: made the decision that this was going to be how 190 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: he would check out, and you know, we all have 191 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: to die some way, and this was you know, he 192 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: just figured this is it and there's nothing I can 193 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: do it. And so I was able to visit him 194 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: and we'd go and chat. The first time he went 195 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: was we were there a couple hours and actually I 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: made him cookies. The last couple of times I saw 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: him the Tuesday, oh nice, yeah, he uh, the Tuesday 198 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: before before he passed away, we were at his house, 199 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: you know, bullshitting, you know, talking about nas and we 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: didn't really talk that much sports. We started out talking 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: sports and TJ was on this podcast I think the 202 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty three, I believe we yeah had 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: them on. 204 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: Oh I remember that, yeah. 205 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was great. We told a lot of 206 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the stories on that podcast. My favorite TJ stories when 207 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: TJ took over as the columnist in page two, which 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: was a big deal in the LA Times, and I 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: think he replaced Jim Murray if I remember remember correctly, 210 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: But either way, TJ was a football writer. The first 211 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: time I ever interacted interacted with TJ, he was a 212 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: San Diego based The LA Times had a bureau in 213 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: San Diego, charger beat reporter. He then became the NFL 214 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: columnist when in his time as the NFL columnist, the 215 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: LA market lost the Rams and the Raiders. They both left, 216 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: and so TJ was writing about the NFL when there 217 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: was no NFL in the market. And at that time, 218 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: the NFL was popular, but it was not nearly as 219 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: popular as it is these days. And so anyway, TJ 220 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: would write about the NFL, and often what he would 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: do is go to these big events and pester the 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: commissioner when is LA going to get a team? Blah 223 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: blah blah, blah blah, and that was his thing. But 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: I had him on. I was. It was in the nineties. 225 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: I was like in my early twenties doing a talk 226 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: show with Dave Smith. We had on the old Ben 227 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: and Dave Show. We had tj on in the middle 228 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: of the interview did not like the questions that we 229 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: were asking, so he yelled at us and then hung 230 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the interview. And I still 231 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I brought that up to him. Actually, this past last 232 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: time I saw him, were talking about some of the 233 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: old old stories. 234 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: That was at that point in his career. Was he 235 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: cool with you or did he not really know you? 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: At that point? No, I thought he hated me. I 237 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: thought he despised me. And the turning point was when 238 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I was doing stuff with the Dodgers, and then he 239 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: took over as the columnist for the Times and he 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: would go out. Davy Johnson was the Dodger manager, and 241 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Davy had a lot of success with the Mets and 242 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: was really living off that success he had managing the Mets, 243 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: who had a bunch of guys that hit a lot 244 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: of home runs and cocaine, the eighty six Mets, and 245 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: he was the manager of that team, and so you know, 246 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: he's just kind of going through the motions. And when 247 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: TJ took over, he came out as a flame throw. 248 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: He just was hammering everybody. And the LA media was 249 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: not used. That was not how they operate. The teams 250 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: in LA didn't know how to handle that at all. 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: They were like freaking out right. They were like, oh 252 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: my god, you know this guy is you know, he's 253 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: stirring up a hornets nest here. What are you doing? 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: And it was so bad. One of the Dodger beat 255 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: writers went to every player on the team for the 256 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: LA Times Dodger beat writer and talked to every player 257 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: and said, I'm not with that guy, like because he 258 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: was that much of a loose cannon and all that. 259 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: But I loved it. I mean, I thought it was 260 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the greatest thing. That's that's how I was raised to approach. 261 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, sports, you're supposed to be critical and you're 262 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: not supposed to kiss the player's ass. You're not part 263 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: of the team. You're supposed to question some things here 264 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: and hold people accountable. And TJ did that. He used 265 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: to call the owner, Frank McCord, the Boston parking lot 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: of Tendant was what he called Frank mc court and 267 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: just would slay him every day. And you gotta remember, 268 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: TJ got in a lot of trouble for that because 269 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: the one of the big advertisers for the La Times 270 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: was the Dodgers. They would buy huge, you know, full 271 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: full page ads in the newspaper and that was a 272 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: big old deal. Right, You're attacking an advertiser, so that 273 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: was a problem. My favorite all time TJ story, though 274 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: I have several, as we pay respects to the great 275 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: late TJ. Simers. When he was it was working for 276 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: the Orange County Register, but he did this starting at 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: the LA Times. He would take shots at Artie Marino. 278 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: He'd called him angry Artie, and Artie Marino got so 279 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: upset with TJ. Simers that he literally punished all of 280 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: the media in Los Angeles. This is one of my 281 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: all time great stories of a rogue owner being so 282 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: upset with a revolutionary media guy that this thing escalated 283 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: into a nuclear situation. Because it turns out Artie Marino 284 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: moved the press box at the Big A from behind 285 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: home plate where it had been since the stadium opened, 286 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: and that's traditionally where every single press box is right, 287 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: there's only a couple that aren't there. And he moved 288 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: it down near the pearly gates, down near the right 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: field foul pole, where you the media can't even see 290 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the game from the press box. And he did that 291 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: because of TJ Simers, because he was so upset with 292 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: TJ Simers and what a mischief maker TJ was, and 293 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: how agitating he was, you know, just really annoying Marino. 294 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: He just he said, all right, we'll move the press 295 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: box and he did. And but you know, TJ had 296 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: a gruff exture. He wasn't for everybody. He wasn't. But 297 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the thing that I love about and TJ. We were 298 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: actually talking about this also over the last couple of 299 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: times I saw him, was he became friends with Vin Scully, 300 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Chick Hern, Bob Miller, these iconic podcasters in Los Angeles. 301 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Was buddies with John Wooden and Kobe Bryant. These people 302 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: loved it, and we were telling he was telling me 303 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: stories about John Wooden and he said that wouldn't hated 304 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: being called the Wizard of Westwood and he did not 305 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: like the fact that everywhere he went people kissed his 306 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: ass and TJ didn't kiss his ass and busted his 307 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: chops and wouldn't loved it. He loved it. Was a 308 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: great story about that. And Kobe Bryant also liked the 309 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: approach that that TJ had. I it was a Mamba 310 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: mentality or not, but he didn't hold back and Kobe 311 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Kobe respected that. 312 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: So you talked about that Fullerton restaurant and I saw 313 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: an Instagram story on it a real just this past week, 314 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: and it said that he told the staff there at 315 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: that restaurant he loved being treated like a regular customer, 316 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: like he was just a regular dude. 317 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 318 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, people who are when you get to a certain level, 319 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: you don't like that. You're like, no, I'm not, you know, 320 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm just a normal person. I just happened to be 321 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: good at something like that. So I wanted to really 322 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: say a tip of the headphones to TJ. I will 323 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I will miss his wisdom. I mean, it has been 324 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: been away from the media business for a number of years. 325 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: He was doing a blog for a while. He this 326 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: just happened by the way I think he found out. 327 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: He fell down in I want to say maybe April 328 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: and something like that might have been Yeah, it might 329 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: have been March. I mean, it was real quick. It wasn't. 330 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: It wasn't a long situation from when it began to 331 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: when it ended. So but in one of a kind, 332 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: there's really nobody else like him, at least in the 333 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: LA media. I mean, Teach is a guy that was 334 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: on that show Around the Horn on ESPN and said 335 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: how much he hated the show while on the show, 336 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: and they ended up getting getting rid of him. And 337 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: then I've told in the past, in fact, we should 338 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: probably linked to that conversation we had with TJ. But 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: there was an incident with Dwight Howard when Dwight came 340 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: over and the Lakers had this supposedly the super team 341 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: with Dwight Howard and Steve Nash, except they they couldn't 342 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't play. They were terrible together. And that thing 343 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: skyrocketed right into the ground. And when the opposite direction, 344 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: it was a dud. And one day Dwight Howard walks 345 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: into the Laker locker room. He's all depressed and he's cursing, 346 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and what's this all about? And it turns out that 347 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: Dwight was upset because at that time Stephen A. Smith 348 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: and Skip Bayless were working together and they had said 349 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: some mean things about Dwight and he was annoyed by that. 350 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: And so THENDJ he goes up to just Dwight. You know, 351 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: no one watches that show, Dwight the rating, I mean, 352 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: you're you're upset. Why are you upset? I can show 353 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: you the ratings that show gets. No nobody's watching. It 354 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: was the funny and Dwight could not wrap his head 355 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: around the fact that that show had very few people watching. 356 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: In his head, everyone was watching that particular show, and 357 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: it's it was. It was pretty amusing, and you know, 358 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: it was great. And TJ did actually listen to the 359 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Overnight show and didn't hate it, which was which was 360 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: a nice thing as well. Good for my good for 361 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: my ego. So I rest in peace the late great TJ. Simons, 362 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: who passed away on this past Sunday. I also, before 363 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: I get any further, I did want to mention that 364 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: we had one oversight on Big Ben's Big Board. Not 365 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: a list, Danny, not a list, Big Ben's Big Boy. 366 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: It was a really good list. So I'm curious to 367 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: hear what we missed. 368 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: So we had the Street takeover, the Burn, Baby Burn, 369 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: the Casey Kasem thing wrong, Button, Bob All that the 370 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: shooting gallery, the mobster Henry Hill. But I forgot about 371 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: this one classic story, the night the bats got in 372 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: the studio. Do do do Do do do? Batman? Do 373 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: do do do? Do do do? Batman? Yeah? 374 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: That was during Roberto the bus Driver's tenure, right. 375 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it happened multiple times that bat's got in 376 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: the studio. I was not there one of the times. 377 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: That's probably why I had forgotten, But I was there 378 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: the other time, and we actually did live coverage. We 379 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: had boots on the ground, yes, outside, as this story developed, 380 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: we were there. 381 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: Was it Mike Carmon on a phone, Yeah. 382 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: Harmon was on the phone. We had there were several 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: people involved. We had one person was the door guy 384 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: to leave the door to the courtyard open. But then 385 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: there was a chase guy that like chasing tornadoes, trying 386 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: to push good luck pushing a bat out of the studio. 387 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: And remember they thought the bat was gone, but the 388 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: bat was actually hiding at one point. But there was 389 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: a successful movement to get the bat out. But I 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: do recall that, and so thank you. Several of you 391 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: reached out to me via social media and email at 392 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: the fifth hour email address to let us know about 393 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: that I had forgotten and that is a that is 394 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: a thing that did happen. If you want to send 395 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: me an email about the mail bag or anything else, 396 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: we do the mail bag on Sunday, but you don't 397 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: have to wait till Sunday. Real fifth Hour at gmail 398 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: dot com, Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com if 399 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: you'd like to be part of this. I was the 400 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: one that everyone agreed we fed up on on Big 401 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Ben's big board was the bad thing. There were some 402 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: other stuff brought up, but that well. 403 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: We should have pretended like you did it on purpose, 404 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: just like when you mess up on something your old line. 405 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 3: I did it to see if you were paying attention. 406 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: That's not aligne Danny, That's that's the truth. I could 407 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: do a perfect show. I could. I was taught by 408 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: my radio mentor my radio mentor Rick these Then you 409 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: just make a mistake every once in a while. It 410 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: humanizes you. You gotta be human. I gonna be relatable to 411 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: the to the common person is as they say, the 412 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: lay person. 413 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: Timed out for the phrase of the week, the phrase 414 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: of the week. 415 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Praise of the week this week by request. If you 416 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: want to send a request in I will consider it. 417 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh swansong. 418 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: No, this is from Nick in Wisconsin. He wants to 419 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: know the origins of ifs and butts were candy and nuts, 420 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: it would be Christmas every day nuts? All right, So 421 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: let's get to this now. I was blown away by 422 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: this one. I'm so happy Nick requested this. I used 423 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: this line every once in a while, Danny, if if 424 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: some butts were candy and nuts to be Christmas every day. 425 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: It turns out it actually originated with someone in sports. 426 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that mind blowing? I say, it's mind blowing. So 427 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: let's take you in the way back machine. The origins 428 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: of the word ifs and butts were candy and nuts, 429 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: be Christmas every day, or something along those lines. It 430 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: was actually coined by a Dallas cowboy, Dandy Don Meredith. 431 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: I'll turn out the lots. 432 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's one of the he's over, one of 433 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: the great tributes that we give to him, turn out 434 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: the lights, the parties over. 435 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: Well. 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Also, back in nineteen seventy nineteen seventy or four before 437 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: our time, Danny g but Don Meredith was a commentator 438 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: with Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football and. 439 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: We literally were not born yet. 440 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: And which is shocking at this point. I feel like 441 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: everything we talk about we were born for you happen 442 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: during our watch anyway. Howard Cosell during the broadcast, I 443 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: have a transcript of it. He said, if Los Angeles 444 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: meeting the Rams, if the Rams win, it's a big one, 445 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: but San Francisco is still very much in it. Don Meredith, 446 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: a color commentary here, then responded, if if sent butts 447 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: were candy and nuts, we all have a merry Christmas. 448 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: And Cosell responded, I didn't think you'd remember that old canard, 449 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: and then Don said, is that but it was? Well, 450 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: it turns out that what Don Meredith had done is 451 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: he had taken an old proverb from the nineteenth century 452 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: and repackaged it as his own. The original statement was 453 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: if as were pots and pans, if st Ann's were 454 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers hands. 455 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: And that proverb goes back to expressing a regret like 456 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: if only we had money, or you know, only I 457 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: had the right connections, I'd be famous that kind of thing. 458 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: But Don Meredith twisted that around and it became what 459 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: it became, which is if some and butts were candy 460 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. The one 461 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: I hear more often is if some butts were candy 462 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: and nuts, be Christmas every day. But either way you 463 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: can thank Don Meredith. That phrase has been around as 464 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: that phrase for over fifty years now, over fifty years 465 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: of that nonsense. So that is the phrase of the week, 466 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: the phrase of the week. 467 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: I wonder in the future if there's a podcast, like 468 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: in the year twenty fifty and they do a phrase 469 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: of the week, Yeah, and the host will be like, 470 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: in the air everywhere where did that come from? 471 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what? Gas baggery came up with that? 472 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Do you want to do some foody fun? We can 473 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: do a little foody fun. Why now we'll Yeah, let's 474 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: do it fun. We'll get out on the foody fun. 475 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Let's do it all right. We all love our food. 476 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: Food very important here. And there's several food stories that 477 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: caught my attention. Some of them were sent by p 478 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: ones to this show that wanted us to be fully 479 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: aware of what's going on. I read that cracker barrel 480 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: you ever been You've been a cracker barrel right at 481 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: some point? Now, no, I haven't done there yet, all right, 482 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: and it's a Southern chain, but yeah, they do have locations. 483 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: My chickadee went there with one of her kids and 484 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 3: they brought me back some biscuits. 485 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, give you a lot of food, large portions of food, 486 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Southern food. But here's the thing. The CEO of Cracker 487 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: Barrel said this week they want the chain to become hip. 488 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: You said the brand, The CEO said, the brand has 489 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: quote lost some of it shine and they have plans 490 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: to regain relevance to become hip. How Danny, you're the 491 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: food guy, how can Cracker Barrel. 492 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: Get emc hammer online one. 493 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: That's what you recommend? 494 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: Yes, well, there's some things some other Their logo looks 495 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: old fashioned. Everything about the restaurant looks old fashioned. So 496 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: how are you going to go from that to being hip? 497 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Well, you have to reinvent yourself. But then the problem 498 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: is if you reinvent yourself, you lose the base. You 499 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: can't lose the bass, So you do have to thread 500 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a needle. I have to threat a needle a little 501 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: bit because you don't want to lose your bass and 502 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: you want to you want to bring new people in. 503 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when NASCAR opened things up and 504 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: they started racing in La and uh well, the Inland 505 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: Empire and Vegas. Remember he upset people in the South work? Yeah? Yeah, 506 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: the good old boys did not like the fact that 507 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: NASCAR was going away from the Mason Dixon line. 508 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: They were annoyed by that. They'd really not like this idea. 509 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: Then I would pay the Kardashians some a big pile 510 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: of cash under the table and have them visit the 511 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: Cracker barrel in Camarillo, California, not too far from Calabasas, 512 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: and they could do like some business lunches and stuff 513 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: inside the Cracker barrel. That would put them right smack 514 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: dab in the middle of the TMZ type websites. 515 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: Courtney is kind of like emotionally cold. Yeah. Now what 516 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: else is in food as well? Taco Bell introducing this 517 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: week the big cheese It crunch rap. Does that do 518 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: anything for you? I love the Mexican people. The cheese 519 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: It cracker that's sixteen times larger than the standard cheese 520 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: At cracker goes into the great detail here. Taco Bell 521 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: and Cheese It have joined forces, a collab, a cofab brother, 522 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: and a big cheese Big Cheese It crunch Rap Supreme 523 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: and Big Cheese It Tostada. Huh. A mouth watering lineup 524 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: of cheesy creation that is sure to thrill fans everywhere. 525 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: You thrilled Danny by this. 526 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: Well, I might try the tostada. That sounds interesting. I 527 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: do like cheese its, especially though the ones that are 528 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: kind of burnt. They even sell the boxes where they're 529 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: all burnt, so like, yeah, yeah, well. 530 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: Done, cheese its. 531 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know, I guess it sounds weird, but 532 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: I'd be willing to try it. 533 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: So you can get the Big cheese Big cheese At Box. 534 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: This box includes the Big cheese At crunch Rap Supreme, 535 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: a beefy five layer burrito, regular sized nacho fries and 536 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Nacho Cheese Song, and a medium soft drink for eight 537 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: ninety nine and seventy five calories. Yes, the Big cheese 538 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: It Destata that features the Big Cheese It Cracker, topped 539 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: with layers of taco bell seasoned beef, dice, tomatoes, crisp lettuce, 540 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: shredded cheese, and cool reduced fat sour cream. I like 541 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: that they had to put reduced fat sour cream on there. Yeah, 542 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: it's really important. I wasn't e gonna get it, but 543 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: now you put you put the reduced fat in there, 544 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: so I'm good. 545 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm good now the old joke. Get a diet coke 546 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: with it and make everything better. 547 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't really see skinny people drinking diet Cokeven 548 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: about the old joke right back in the day. You 549 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: don't see that. But anyway, enjoy that. And it thinks 550 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: to alf who sent that along, the great alien o Piner. 551 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: It was really rude. By the way, I'm holding a 552 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: diet coke in my hand right now, I'm dead serious. 553 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh, let's see a Windy's launch. 554 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: You called me fat? 555 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Do you drink water and no water at all? 556 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Okay? All right? 557 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: And then what are you drinking during the day? 558 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: Sodis? 559 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: No? Why have you? Maybe I did? 560 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 561 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: Wendy's launching a new Saucy Nugs campaign, seven flavors including honey, barbecue, spicy, ghost, pepper, garlic, palm, 562 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: and more. It's available nationwide. That starts June tenth, So 563 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: we still have a few days. That starts on. Is 564 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: that Monday, June tenth? What's the date? I think Monday? 565 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: Am I running that? 566 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Today's the seventh eighth yeah, Monday. I don't know. 567 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm living in the moment. 568 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know either, I have no idea. 569 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: Plus, we recorded this last weekend exactly, and your favorite 570 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: all time favorite. 571 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: Arby's is in the foody news this week. Arby's introducing 572 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: the new cherry barbecue brisket sandwich in Canada. Ew that 573 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: sounds terrible. That sounds disgusting, is what that sounds like. 574 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: But that's if you're in Canada. 575 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: Does it have poutine in it? 576 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I did not. I do not see any poutine on here. 577 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: It's all I know about Canada that mountains, glorious mountains 578 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: and beautiful scenery and mooses and poutine and hockey and hockey. 579 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: What is good luck to the Oilers tomorrow? 580 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Oh? Come, oh, this is a story night. 581 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: Eddie Curtseys stood up. Oh yes, sang oh Canada. 582 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: Well now this week he got upset with me because 583 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: I picked the Edmonton Oilers to win in Eddie's Anti 584 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: Edmonton and so so Garcia's like, oh you're a Canadian, 585 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: You're yeah, I forgot about that. I got to bring 586 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: that up. He rose to attention that Canadian national. 587 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: Aand did he took his hat off and he was 588 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: very respectful. The rest of us were laughing. 589 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: All right, well, here's an Olive Garden in the news. Here, 590 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: never ending soup or salad and breadsticks for free. But 591 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: there is a catch. There's a catch. You can order 592 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: an adult andre and in restaurant only Olive Garden entree 593 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: three thousand, Yeah, something like that. They will they will 594 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: continue unlimited breadsticks and never ending soup or salad for 595 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: free with any entree ordered. And so they say that's 596 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: been the way it's been at Olive Garden, and they're 597 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: not they're not getting rid of it. They said, Olive 598 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Garden serves Did you see this per year? How many 599 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: breadsticks they serve per year? Did you see the number? One? 600 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: All right, take a guess. What do you think? 601 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: I say, two hundred and three thousand breadsticks? 602 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Danny, it's a national chain, Dan. Okay, see how many? 603 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: How many locations? Let's see how many locations for Olive Garden. 604 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: Let's start with The reason I went low is because 605 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: we've gone there once in five years. 606 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. My grandfather in law, Luigi, may he rest in peace. 607 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: This is so funny. The guy's from Italy. Right, you 608 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: don't get any more authentic Italian than a guy named 609 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: Luigi who's from Italy. He was born and lived there 610 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: until he was a young adult and moved his family. 611 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: He loved it, right, loved it, and he loved it, 612 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: absolutely loved it. 613 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: And here's the reason why Mexican people love Taco bell. 614 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: That's not authentic, that's American, that's gringo. That's the gringo 615 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: take on it. But to them, it's like fast food version. 616 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: It's just a nice switch up. 617 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, according to the interweb, which is 618 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: never wrong, Danny, never wrong, there are at this moment 619 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: over nine hundred Olive Garden locations. 620 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: So would you like to change your answer? Yeah, I'm 621 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: going to say one point seven million breadsticks. 622 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: All right, pens down, reveal answers, Reveal answers. Alive Garden 623 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: serves seven hundred and forty four million bread sticks. What 624 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: a year? What bullshit? That's what they're they're claiming. 625 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 3: That's bs. You don't believe them, No, you mean they're lying. 626 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: That's an over exaggerated no, that's what they said. They 627 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: do the math really quick. Hold, I'm doing the math alright. 628 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: So seven hundred and forty four million divided by how 629 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: many of us say nine hundred? Yeah, nine hundred per location. 630 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: That's to the math, that's too many. That's eight hundred 631 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: and twenty six thousand bread sticks. I think I'm right 632 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I think eight two six six six 633 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: six Sign of the Devil. So yeah, that seems like 634 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: a little lunch, isn't it. I know they're not that big, 635 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: and you get a basket of them every time you 636 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: get them. But that's a little bit much. 637 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: Let's see what the listeners think on our eight hundred 638 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand streams we have on this podcast this weekend. 639 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, we will get out on that. Any anything 640 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: going on. I know it's National Donut Day today, which 641 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: is always a big holiday celebrated National Donut Day today 642 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: with Colvino and Rich. You know what I like, not 643 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: your cinnamon roll what you claim donut? That's my favorite donut. 644 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: You know you like it too. The apple fritter. Apple 645 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: Fritter's great. Yeah, I love apple fritter donuts. 646 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: How about you number one on your list? You're your 647 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 3: big boy. 648 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, cinnamon roll, apple fritter. Lately it's been apple fritter. 649 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: I love that. I used to live near donut man, 650 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: and they had the tigertail donut, which is a great 651 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: It's like a cinnamon spin thing. It's like the size 652 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: of your forearm and it's great. 653 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: Gotta say the jelly filled is delicious too. I mean, 654 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: after you've done eating it, you feel like you're gonna die. 655 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 3: It is really good. 656 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that has National Donut Day today. And the top 657 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: flavor the number one flavor for donuts, you know what 658 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: it is, no glazed, glazed. Most popular. Number two is 659 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: the Boston cream donut, followed by the chocolate frosted, the 660 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: jelly filled, and then the chocolate cake. 661 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Cake donuts are gross. Yeah, it's not done it. I 662 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: don't know they'd be gross, But. 663 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm not my favorite, not my favorite. And the two 664 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: massive donut companies are Krispy Kreme and Dunkin Donuts. But 665 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: then you got like Tim Hortons does very well, Voodoo Donuts, 666 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: but they all get a small percent. Krispy Kreme gets 667 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: forty one percent, Dunkin Donuts gets forty percent of donut 668 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: sales in America. So all right, having a wonderful, wonderful day, 669 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: and we'll catch you all weekend long, got new podcast 670 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: coming out for you new audio content on Saturday and Sunday, 671 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you then. Asta pasta got a murder. 672 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: I gotta go.