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Speaker 1: opted out. Caleb's opted out. And do you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad because I remember back when Christian McCaffrey did it.

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Speaker 1: It was a really polarizing story about opting out. You know,

429
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Speaker 1: like the history and the tradition of these Bowl games

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Speaker 1: like where you're playing for the national championship, because if

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Speaker 1: you're not, who gives a shit? This is a business.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I learned a long time ago I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget when I worked at President State, Pat Hill

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Speaker 1: said this, the only person that cares about you is you. Now,

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Speaker 1: other people off you know care about you. But professionally,

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Speaker 1: if you were not caring about yourself more than everyone else,

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Speaker 1: you probably got a problem. And that's listen. If you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about it right now, Do I ask for a raise,

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Speaker 1: do I ask for more responsibility? It's on you. It's

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Speaker 1: not a marriage where you have to kind of like

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Speaker 1: figure out what she's thinking before you do it, and

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00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: like hopefully you're like reading your mind and then it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm right on this one. Professionally, when you

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Speaker 1: want something, you got to ask for. It's not about deserving,

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Speaker 1: it's not about wanting. It's about communicating I want this.

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Speaker 1: You might get to know. But until you ask, until

447
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Speaker 1: you put yourself first, the people you're working for, the

448
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Speaker 1: people you're working with, will not put you first. Promise

449
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Speaker 1: you that. And forever it was like you just play

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Speaker 1: in the ball games. It's like, wait, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: the seventh pick in the draft. That draft pick pays

452
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Speaker 1: me a twenty two million dollars signing bonus. If someone

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Speaker 1: just accidentally falls on my leg and shatters it and

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Speaker 1: I end up going in the third round instead of

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Speaker 1: the first round, that is costing me an astronomical in

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Speaker 1: that one. This is this isn't business. This is big business.

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Speaker 1: So I have no problem with anyone who is a

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Speaker 1: lock to be a top twenty plus pick saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not playing the bowl game now, where I would have

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Speaker 1: an issue. If you're like a fourth round pick, fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick, if you're gonna declare you're senior or whatever

462
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Speaker 1: and you opt out, you always have the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: earn more credit because the majority of your evaluation is

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Speaker 1: gonna come on tape, and when you play well in

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Speaker 1: a bowl game, there are just more eyeballs there, and

466
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Speaker 1: you can always earn yourself maybe go from a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick to get yourself in a third round, because

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Speaker 1: that tape against that opponent, against that sophomore that's gonna

469
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Speaker 1: be a first round under the following year kind of

470
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Speaker 1: earns your respect in the eyes of evaluators. So I

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Speaker 1: don't view all opt outs the same, but any Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, Drake may verse, any high level prospect. Not

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Speaker 1: only do I have no issue with it, the NFL

474
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Speaker 1: has no issue with it. They're not only numb to it.

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Speaker 1: They think it's the right decision. You think they want

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Speaker 1: you to get injured like Jalen Smith did once upon

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Speaker 1: a time. The guy was gonna go in the top ten,

478
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Speaker 1: top fifteen, hell maybe top five, has a devastating knee

479
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Speaker 1: injury and plummets in the draft to the second round

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Speaker 1: and cost himself millions of dollars. And listen, I've talked

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Speaker 1: to him before, and I know he says he doesn't

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Speaker 1: regret it. And I understand having that mindset, because when

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Speaker 1: something bad happens to you, you've got to have a

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Speaker 1: positive mindset. But when you have examples like that for

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Speaker 1: these players, you have to make the best business decision,

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Speaker 1: because that's what you're going into. This is not we're

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Speaker 1: not playing this isn't pee foot, this isn't high school football.

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Speaker 1: We're not teaching life lessons. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: your profession, and a lot of money's on the line,

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Speaker 1: and health to me during the draft process is a

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Speaker 1: we put a premium on it. At the combine you

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Speaker 1: go through all the medical checks, and having an injury

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Speaker 1: at that time, which could potentially put next season in

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Speaker 1: a jeopardy, even an off season in a jeopardy, can

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Speaker 1: be devastating to your draft stock because all draft stock

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Speaker 1: is It's like the specs on a home, how many

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Speaker 1: square feet? How big is the backyard, what neighborhoods are?

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Speaker 1: In any issues, any stuff need to be Redone was

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Speaker 1: the kitchen? Look like how BIG's the master bedroom? That's

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Speaker 1: no different than like how healthy are you? What was

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Speaker 1: your production? How fast did you run? How good your character?

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Speaker 1: All that stuff equals your draft position. Well, for a

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Speaker 1: lot of the top guys, all those boxes are already checked.

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Speaker 1: If they were a house, people would be lined up

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Speaker 1: outside the house to pay over asking. And it's a marketplace.

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Speaker 1: These guys, luckily, for the first time, kind of realize

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Speaker 1: like I don't need to do this, And they're not

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Speaker 1: quitting on their teammates, that they're not doing that at all.

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Speaker 1: They're just making a decisions. I can't the risk is

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Speaker 1: not worth the reward because we're playing in a bowl game.

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Speaker 1: Where they just give us a trophy that ultimately means nothing,

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Speaker 1: and we're the seventh team in the country or we're

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth team in the country. It's cool, it's fun,

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Speaker 1: it's football. But I have potentially another ten year career

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Speaker 1: ahead of me. I'm playing with a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that are probably my close friends, people that I will

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Speaker 1: talk to till the day I die. Right, if you're

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Speaker 1: a college football player and you've been on one team

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Speaker 1: for three or four years, there's a decent chance that

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Speaker 1: ten plus teammates will be kind of your close inner

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Speaker 1: circle in life for the rest of your life, even

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Speaker 1: more than a lot of guys that you play pro

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Speaker 1: football with. But as you age, even if they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I wish she would play, most of those guys will

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Speaker 1: not be going pro. Like most guys that you play

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00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: college football with won't play on Sundays. So you have

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Speaker 1: to put your priorities ahead of them. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: glad that we're at the point now where people don't

529
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Speaker 1: even think twice over you know, those decisions, because looking back,

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Speaker 1: it was such a stupid argument. Now, if you have

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Speaker 1: the chance to play for a national championship. To me,

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00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: if you're playing for one of the final four teams.

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Speaker 1: That's a different story. And listen, there's a reason none

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Speaker 1: of those guys ever opt out because they have the

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Speaker 1: chance to kind of be in football haul of ground

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Speaker 1: to win a national championship. But any of the other

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Speaker 1: Bowl games, I got news, I'll watch them. Shit, I'll

538
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: probably bet on some of them are just kind of

539
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Speaker 1: irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Depend on this.

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Speaker 1: My friends at uber eats, it's time for this week's

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Speaker 1: player I thought might give almost almost anything to redo

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Speaker 1: there's only one guy, and I think that's James Bradbury.

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00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: On that final drive, he gave up. And listen, I

545
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Speaker 1: understand there and cover two on the ball that DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf caught, But you got a cheat on that one.

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00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: You can let DK Metcalf just fly by you. So

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Speaker 1: I don't care what the rules are. You have to

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Speaker 1: just take a couple steps back and then on the

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass if you watch it before they both break

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: out of the screen, he's kind of squatting on a

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00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: shorter route. Whether it's a comeback, an out and an in.

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Speaker 1: He does not want to give up a ten yard completion.

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: They don't have any timeouts. There's only thirty seconds left.

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Speaker 1: You cannot let him just run right by you. And

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00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: he was kind of flat footed, and listen, DK, maybe

557
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: he just gets you on that spot on the touchdown pass.

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00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Under no circumstances can you give up a touchdown. You

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00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: can give up a fifteen yard play. So what there's

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00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: twenty five seconds and they're at the fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 1: There's no guarantee they're gonna score a touchdown. You're not

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Speaker 1: playing Peyton Manning here. You're playing Drew Locke. You can't

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00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: give up just an open deep ball. Then ultimately the

564
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: quarterback and the guy stills got to catch it. But

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00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you got smoked because you're just sitting there flat footed.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what the rules are, I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the defense is calling. There comes a point in

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00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: time where you got to be a football player. You

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00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: see it all the time in zone defense with linebackers,

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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: and honestly, Seattle does this a lot. I love Bobby Wagner,

571
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: but he just kind of sits there in grass in

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00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. It's like, Bro, there are

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00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: guy's to the left and the right, of you. I

574
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: don't care what the rules are. There comes a point

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Speaker 1: where you got to be a football player. And I'm

576
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: not pretending to be Bill Belichick here, but I learned

577
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: when I was in the NFL killing grass in zone

578
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: coverage or just killing grass because that's what the rules say.

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00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: That's the opposite of being an instinctive player. Time situation,

580
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: third and eight, you're just gonna stand there like no

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00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: one's around you. The guy seven yards you're right, why

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00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: don't you cheat over there? Same thing with Bradbury sitting

583
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: flat footed. Jackson Smith, who just is gonna be a

584
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: stud already really good player, just goes right by you.

585
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: Game win, he touchdown. Now you lose. Now your seasons

586
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: in shambles because you're just like listen, you can't run

587
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: with them stride for stride, So cheat, Like part of

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: life is to realize what's coming or what could come,

589
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and is the worst case scenario and kind of play

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00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: against that and if something else happens, that's not as bad.

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00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: You deal with it, but you never want the worst

592
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: case scenario to play out. And that's what happened to

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Speaker 1: call the mail bag, and here's how you get in.

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Speaker 1: It's very very simple. At John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is my Instagram. Two f's firing those dms at John Middlecoff,

600
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: firing those dms like Marco just did I listened to

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: all your shows. I already liked this guy, considering the Panthers'

602
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: recent struggles plus only having five fans at their game.

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00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: It was wendy, and it was cold, and it was

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00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: rainy against the Falcons. The overall state of the franchise,

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Speaker 1: do you think there's a possibility of relocating the team

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Speaker 1: to a different state like Austin, for example, especially with

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: the absence of state income tax and the fact that

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Speaker 1: the city is becoming more and more popular. Well, I

609
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: don't hate your mindset. The problem is, you know the

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Speaker 1: state of Texas. Jerry is one of the heavy hitters

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Speaker 1: in the league. The Cowboys are the league's biggest brand.

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Speaker 1: Why would they want another team in Texas? I think

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Speaker 1: they would block that, And Houston is one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest cities in America already has a team. I think

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Speaker 1: both those teams would vehemently throw their bodies, you know,

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Speaker 1: in front of that. I don't have, you know, I

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Speaker 1: kind of I do this kind of live, so I

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Speaker 1: don't have the Charlotte stats. But isn't it one of

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Speaker 1: the fastest growing cities in America to me? The market,

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00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, to me, the Jags with Jacksonville much more

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: likely to relocate than Carolina. The problem in Carolina is

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00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: they just suck. When they were good and hosted the

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00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: NFC Championship years ago, like it was a okay, you

624
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: can't be that bad. If the Cowboys were that bad,

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00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: if the Eagles were that bad, if the Niners were

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: that bad and a game was rainy and wet, people

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00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't go. You know, I never bemoan the fan that

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00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: attends games because, let's face it, in the football it's

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00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: way easier to sit at home watch a game. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: football is the greatest thing that's ever happened at sports television.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's made for TV. Like you go to

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: an NBA game, sometimes it's actually better than watching it

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00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: on TV. Like basketball games are awesome. You go to

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: the right baseball game, it can be one. It's just

635
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: kind of an event. Get out in the sun and

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00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: the summer, have a beer. A football game, i'd argue,

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00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: is better on TV than it is in person. So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna get me to go to the game,

639
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: it better be a decent product. And the Falcons Carolina.

640
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'm not making this up. If

641
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I lived in the area, right, obviously I wouldn't fly

642
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: to Carolina and go that game. But let's just say, hypothetically,

643
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: you buy me, buy me a ticket. What would I

644
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: have to pay you, John Middlecoff to attend that game?

645
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: All take care of the travel, I will take care

646
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: of the sleeping arrangements, gets you a nice hotel. I

647
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: think my number would start. I wouldn't do it for

648
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: ten grand my time, my weekend. It'd probably be I

649
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: swore to God, twenty five k cash that they couldn't

650
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: tax me on minimum. And I'd probably need you to

651
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: set up a golf round at a country club or something.

652
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: That's how bad that game would be. Like, I would

653
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: have gone last night for free if I would have

654
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: known how awesome the game would be. But in the

655
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: wet in the wind, especially if I'm sitting outside football game. Man,

656
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty miserable, So I can't. I have no

657
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: issue with no one showing up. Why in your right

658
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: mind would you go to that game, even if you're

659
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: a season ticket holder, because you can't give the tickets away.

660
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: We've all been a fan of when teams are bad

661
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: and known. I've never been a season ticket holder. I

662
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: don't even know why. Technically, in this modern day age

663
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: you'd be a season ticket holder. It's much easier shout

664
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: out to my friends at game time just to get

665
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: tickets when you want to go now. I get it

666
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: from a business, if you have a business entertained clients,

667
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: makes sense. But to me, if you're just a fan

668
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: of a team, just buy tickets when you want to go. Now.

669
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Maybe there are other perks that I'm missing, And I

670
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: get it if you know it's a family thing, Like

671
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: if you've been in a city with a basketball or

672
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: a baseball team, or even a football team. But are

673
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: you going to every game football? I guess technically you

674
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: could basketball or baseball, No chance, But I yeah, I

675
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: think Caroline is there to stay. I think they want

676
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: him in that market could be wrong, but that market,

677
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: to me is a lot different than let's say Jacksonville.

678
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: As a Seahawks fan, I can't help but worry following

679
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Drew locks Monday Night masterclass and that Pete and the

680
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: management might look to keep both him and Gino for

681
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: another year instead of drafting a first round quarterback in

682
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: next year's draft. Chris Ballard used to say this a

683
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: lot when everyone wanted him to draft a quarterback in

684
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: the first round instead of like band aiating it with

685
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Rivers and Winz and Jacoby Matt Ryan. Obviously some of

686
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: those guys were bad, but he's like, you guys do

687
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: understand that if we're not drafting high, I gotta really

688
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: like a guy at pick twenty two to just pull

689
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: the trigger and draft him in the first round. Do

690
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: you want me to just draft Kenny Pickett or Mac

691
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Jones because you guys wanted me to draft a quarterback,

692
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna go. If I had to bet right now,

693
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: they're seven and seven. Looking at their schedule, I'd say

694
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: nine and seven, or excuse me, nine and eight would

695
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: be my guess. Well, if you're nine and eight probably

696
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: getting the playoffs. I mean, there's a decent chance them

697
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: and the Rams both make the playoffs. That means you're

698
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: drafting like pick twenty one to twenty two, Well, what

699
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: if there's not a good quarterback there, and what if

700
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: how high? I'm not a pot like trading up and

701
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: getting a guy that you really like. But I don't

702
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: think it's crazy. I mean, as of right now, two

703
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: years they've won sixteen games with Gino Andrew Locke. If

704
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: their defense was just a little bit better, if Witherspoon

705
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: comes back, if they keep Leonard Williams, they add another

706
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: pass rusher, their team's got a lot of talent. Now,

707
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback position obviously is not ideal. But just because

708
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: you trade up and get you know, Bo Nicks or

709
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, doesn't mean those guys are gonna be any good.

710
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: We see it all the time. So I actually think

711
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: they're in a decent spot. They have a ton of

712
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: good players all over the roster, a lot of young

713
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: impact guys, ton of good offensive weapons. Part of the

714
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: reason you can compete with Drew Locke and Gino Smith.

715
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: You got DK you got Jackson Smith, you got Tyler Locket,

716
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: you got Kenneth Walker, you got some young tackles. Disley's

717
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: not bad. I mean, you got players. Another struggling Steelers

718
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: fan here. Going forward, where do you think the organization

719
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: should go at quarterback? I'm pretty pretty much out on

720
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: Kenny and our backups make me want to vomit. I agree.

721
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that we should focus our twenty twenty

722
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: four draft or go for someone like Kirk Cousins in

723
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: free agency? I think it's difficult when it comes to

724
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett because you just drafted him to pick twenty

725
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: and this is second year, so he's gonna be on

726
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: the team next year. You're not going to draft a

727
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: guy in the first round. That's just not happening. I

728
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: would be stunned. I do think it's on the table

729
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: to be sniffing around at guys, right Kirk Cousins. Can

730
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: I get him for cheap what I trade for Justin

731
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Fields and then have a competition between Fields and Kenny Pickett?

732
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, do something like that. I think that's the

733
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: most realistic option with you guys. To me, the biggest

734
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: question though with your franchise, like what do you do

735
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: with the coach? Do you just do you fire him?

736
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Because I don't know about you. I think it's over

737
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: and that's I'm not a Mike Tomlin Hayter. I think

738
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers should immediately hire Mike Tomlin just to get

739
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: some respect, just to get a real coach. Like middle

740
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: copy sucks, like do you know what the Chargers would

741
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: do for Mike Tomlin? But listen, I think I think

742
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: you are much more likely to kind of like try

743
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: to sign a Geno Smith type. Now he's under contract,

744
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean to Baker Mayfield, someone

745
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: to come in and compete with Kenny Pickett. I think

746
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: that's the most realistic option question for the pod. Are

747
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: highlight quarterbacks overvalued in this social media era? Always see

748
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: or highlight reels, but we never see the misreads that

749
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: made them scramble and make some incredible place for twenty

750
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: yards when they actually left yards on the field. It's

751
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: hard to criticize passes that are never made, maybe with fans,

752
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: and I think Justin Fields is a good example. If

753
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: you just watch some highlights of justin Field, you holy shit,

754
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: look at this guy scramble around, throw the ball down

755
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: the field. The problem is NFL teams do not evaluate

756
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: you off highlight packages. They evaluate you off all twenty

757
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: two tape that is silent with scouts, general managers and

758
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: then the coaching staff in a room usually with a

759
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: chew a zen in a Gatorade zero their feed up

760
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: and some music blaring in the background, just watching you

761
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: play football and so listen. Yeah, it creates a lot

762
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: of false media narratives because a lot of people that

763
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: talk for a living. If you don't know anyone in

764
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're just giving your opinions that usually are

765
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: probably not great. If you are talking to people in

766
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: the league and then forming those opinions off that I've

767
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: said it forever. It's why Commin's so good when he

768
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: went all in on Baker Mayfield was not gonna work

769
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: or Zach Wilson's not gonna work. He's using his opinion,

770
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: but he's also talking to like three or four gms.

771
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: You think those gms probably telling them, yeah, we don't

772
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: like him. That character doesn't, so he forms his opinion

773
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: knowing what the league thinks. I'm not saying it always

774
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: works and not every guy's right, but if you do

775
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: that more often than not, it helps. Last year, everyone

776
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: would act like Sauce Gardner was the next day on

777
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: Sanders I talked to a guy in the league this year.

778
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: They're like, we think he's a little overrated. You won't

779
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: fucking tackle. He can't really handle the quicker guys. And

780
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: look this year what happened. Derek Stingley is now on

781
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: the field. I would take Stingley for the next five

782
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: years Oversauce. And I'm not acting like Sauce, some scrub,

783
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: but the hype machine of the way. And I'm guilty

784
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: of this too, that we all do it. It's why

785
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: that I try to be measured when I talk about party.

786
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know if Perdy's gonna be some Hall

787
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: of Fame player, but based on his sample size, he's

788
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: much better. He's the best quarterback since the forty nine

789
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Ers have had since Steve Young and Jeff Garcia was

790
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: pretty damn good, and so was Kaepernick. But he clearly

791
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: is the most well rounded quarterback they've had in twenty

792
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: five years. Now, does that mean give him two hundred

793
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: million dollars? He's still got to do it longer than

794
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: he's done it. We got time. But this argument, like

795
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: he's fucking damn good. He's not Josh Allen. He can't

796
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: move like Lamar Jackson. He doesn't have an arm like

797
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but for the forty nine ers, he's it's

798
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: ptty freaking sweet, And I think that's how you talk

799
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: about it in the NFL. Yet, like you said, in

800
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: this Highlight Generation, it's like, oh, look at this, Look

801
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: at these seven dunks. It's like, yeah, well he can't

802
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: shoot a lick and he doesn't try on defense, so

803
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: no good team wants the guy. But I could show

804
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: you a highlight in the Basketball's King of that. Highlight

805
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: packages make a guy look good, and football has kind

806
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: of turned in on that a little bit with social media.

807
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Not a football question, but I heard you give a

808
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: toast to your landscaper who happened to go to jail

809
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: a while back. Did he ever get out? And did

810
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: you ever get your lawn taken care of? Again? Love

811
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: the show. My former landscaper got deported and it sucked

812
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: because I really liked him and he was awesome, and

813
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: he was putting all these trees in, all these Fighters

814
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: trees in my backyard, so basically none of my neighbors

815
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be seeing They're gonna be like fifteen foot Fighters trees.

816
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: And he had dug all the holes, but we had

817
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: to wait because it was so hot in Arizona. He

818
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: said they were gonna die, and then what was gonna

819
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: have and install the Fighters trees. I couldn't get a

820
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: hold of him. Somehow, through my girlfriend's friend who introduced

821
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: him to us, got ahold of his wife, and he

822
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: was in jail in Tucson, Arizona, and now he's in Mexico. Luckily,

823
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the guy that moved me into my house, I hit

824
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: him up, asked him if he knew anybody. He said

825
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: his cousin was a landscaper. So now Jorge installed the

826
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Fighters trees, did a good job. I'm gonna have him

827
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: to the front yard. He was really hammering me on,

828
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: like let's do the front yard. It's like, hoor hey,

829
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I've just spent a lot of money in a remodel.

830
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Let's just take a deep breath. I don't care that

831
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: much about the front yard right now. But I did

832
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: get a new landscaper. And yeah, I don't even want

833
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: to say my guy's name because he's gone. And it

834
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: makes me sad because I like that guy a lot.

835
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: He was fucking awesome. Honestly, he wouldn't charge me enough.

836
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: I used to say like, no, I'm gonna pay you more.

837
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Good life lesson. I think a lot of people don't realize,

838
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: like you probably can charge a little more than you

839
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: think if you do a good job, especially if you're

840
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: like an independent contractor, you know. I think sometimes times

841
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: people low ball themselves because they're afraid that like I

842
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: don't even know, like I can't do the work if

843
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: you can, like, if you're gonna charge me, you know,

844
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: if this is forty five hundred, like I was, like

845
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: forty five hundred, it's like shit, I thought it was

846
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: gonna be like eight grand. I'm a die hard Bucks fan,

847
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: and this team is always terrible than magically a super

848
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Bowl winning team once every twenty years. I would take

849
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: this over being a team that is always five hundred.

850
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: But the Bucks are heading toward an era of being

851
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: okay in a bad division. Obviously, for the business, is

852
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: it better to be relevant even if you have no

853
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: chance at a super Bowl. But as a fan, I'd

854
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: rather build something that has real potential. Baker and Bulls

855
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: will never be worst the worst, but they're never gonna

856
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: be great. Should the Bucks re sign Baker for something Yes?

857
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: In theory, in a perfect world, you would rather get

858
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: a team that can just rattle off eleven twelve wins

859
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: for like five straight years. That's perfect world, But sometimes

860
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: the world isn't perfect. You suck. Forever you got Tom,

861
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: you became really relevant, and now this team has a

862
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs and win the division. If

863
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: you win the division without Tom Brady and you go

864
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: over five hundred, it's a very successful year. You get

865
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: to host a playoff game even if you lose the

866
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys of the Eagles. So what, like I all you

867
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: can deal with is what you have. What are you

868
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Blow it up, trade everyone, get rid

869
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: of everybody, like you have some pieces. You have some

870
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: really good veteran players. And I think Baker will be back.

871
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: What was he one year four or five million? If

872
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: he wins two of the last three games, I think

873
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: he's back one year twelve million, one year fifteen million,

874
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: And you just kind of figure it out year by

875
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: year as you're building toward the future. I think you

876
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: can kind of do both at once. But sucking sucks

877
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: because there's no guarantee that if you bought them out

878
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: and just blow that you're just gonna turn it around

879
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: and be good. That's just not how it works, right.

880
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: We see a lot of teams just bought him out

881
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: and they stay bad. I think the ceiling. As a

882
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, I think the ceiling for this team can

883
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: be high, but it seems we have reached the ceiling

884
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: with Gino and Locke. If Seattle doesn't make the playoffs,

885
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: it might be a shorter jump to the top ten.

886
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: But if they go on a run and somehow make

887
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, what a potential trade would need to get

888
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: their quarterback? Well, the Chiefs did it years ago to

889
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: get Mahomes. Right, was he the tenth or twelfth pick?

890
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I always get him and Deshaun Watson mixed up right.

891
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Trubisky went went two, which is crazy, and I think

892
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: did Deshaun go ten and Mahomes went twelve or vice versa.

893
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: But they came up from the twenties and they gave

894
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: I think a future one and some I forget the

895
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: exact trade, but I think you'd come up at twenty

896
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: one to pick ten for next year's one and some

897
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: other stuff. But I think for every Mahomes and even

898
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Deshaun with the Texans, it doesn't work out a lot.

899
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Now it's pretty risky and you're seeing a lot of

900
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: guys around the league like Gardner, Minshew, Jake Browning. Do

901
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: you have to do that? Like can you win games?

902
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Would you know? And Drew Locke, Now, if you love

903
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: the guy, put all your chips in the middle of

904
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: the table. Never forget. I was telling my girlfriend this

905
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: the reason Drew Lock's on the team. She's like, who

906
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: is this guy? I'm like, well, they got him back.

907
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: A lot of you guys know it because John Schneider

908
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: liked the guy. I'll guarantee you this. Josh Snyder had

909
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: a first round grade on that guy coming out of college.

910
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: I'll promise you that because he wanted him in that trade.

911
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: He liked him because I know the type players he likes.

912
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: He loves Josh Allen like he likes physically gifted quarterbacks

913
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: and that's what Drew Locke is. And uh yeah, so

914
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: I it wouldn't shock if Drew plays again. They keep

915
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: winning games with him. I could see them kind of

916
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: maybe giving him a year. Do you think the Colts

917
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: have a chance of making the playoffs or do you

918
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: believe they would be a team out Buffalo and the

919
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Texans on the rise. The Jaguars slipping Week eighteen against

920
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: the Texans seemed like it will decide at all if

921
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: somehow they get in. Do you think they have a

922
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: cheats against the two seed? No, I don't. I mean

923
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: the two seed probably be the Chiefs, So I would

924
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: say no, I think the Bills are going to win

925
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: that division, so you get it would be the Ravens,

926
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Bills. What division am I missing in

927
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: the South? Which? Who knows? So I would say I

928
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: think you guys are one and done. I really do

929
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: awesome year. I mean, we all thought you were gonna

930
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: suck once the quarterback got injured. Who cares now? I

931
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: actually don't think the Texans have a bunch of injuries.

932
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think CJ would be back this week.

933
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: But I think all those teams are kind of the

934
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: same right and the Jags are in shambles. I haven't

935
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: looked at your schedule, but been watching for a long

936
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: time now. Question for the Pod do you think any

937
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: of the backups doing well this year have a chance

938
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: to be the starting starting job next year? Browning, Gardner, Minshew,

939
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito, the Veto. No, unlikely. I would

940
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: say that I don't see how Minshew wouldn't be a

941
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: starter somewhere. He wouldn't necessarily start in Indye, if the

942
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: quarterback's healthy, right, just because you invest that much into

943
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he's gonna play. But I think you know,

944
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: if Baker can be a starting quarterback somewhere, you would

945
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: think Minshew would get more money. So, like, why wouldn't

946
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots be interested? Why? I mean a lot of

947
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: these teams Minnesota, what's their quarterback situation, right, I mean

948
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna be teams that Why wouldn't Atlanta want Gardner

949
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: Minshew over what they got? So yeah, I think Gardner

950
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Minshew's a starter next year. I'm probably still TBD on Browning.

951
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: To me, would still make sense for Browning is probably

952
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: like two years, ten million to be Joe Burrow's backup.

953
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: But I guess you never know. All it takes is

954
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: one person to like him. I was wondering if you

955
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: could discuss on your next Mailback episode some stories insights

956
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: on being a junior employee on a professional football team.

957
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm currently a junior employee at a financial service company

958
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: and struggle with getting noticed by management and forging a

959
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: career path. If you could share any advice. I can't

960
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: speak for financial group, but like when you're the lowest

961
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: guy in the totem pole in an NFL office, there

962
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: aren't that many people there, so you know, the coaching

963
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: staff at the time had, however, many guys offense, defense

964
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: and in office scouts. It was like, howie a couple

965
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: pro scouts. So you know everyone pretty quickly on a

966
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: first name basis. So it's pretty easy once you start.

967
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: My number one advice say yes to everything. Anyone that

968
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: needs help do it. And basically on the organizational chart,

969
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: everyone's above you, so help anyone to do anything. And

970
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: again I can't I don't know how many people are

971
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: in your office, but it's just pretty easy to become close.

972
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Like developing personal relationships always helps, right, So it's easy

973
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: to get to know these guys when you're helping them

974
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: do stuff NonStop, whether it's stuff for the special teams

975
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: coach with, there's the offensive coordinator, whether it's a GM.

976
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: We spend so much time together that you just do

977
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: whatever you can and a lot of it's like picking

978
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: people up at the airport getting coffee. Just there's a

979
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: fine balance. And listen, you gotta have instincts on this

980
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: from being like a kiss ass and just refusing to

981
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: be denied and just do whatever it takes to not

982
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: just get noticed. And I, you know, I, I guess

983
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: when I'm looking back, I just did whatever I was

984
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: told and did it to the best of my ability. Right,

985
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: you don't want to like go too far past like

986
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: this guy's trying a little hard. So I can't speak

987
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: to how it works in the financial services. They're probably

988
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: not going to ask you for the next great stock, right,

989
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: but can you everything you need to do for the

990
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: guys that you answer to. I would say, due to

991
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: the best of your ability, and be early, stay late, listen,

992
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: FaceTime is over. Like as you get older, you realize

993
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of stupid. When you're young, it matters. You

994
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: want to be known as like this guy just just

995
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: fucking always here, And it's easier when you're younger and

996
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: you don't have a family or whatever. But I would say,

997
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: everything you're given, try to make it an a plus,

998
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: and if you can, if you see opportunities to go

999
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: above and beyond, do it. But there's not like every

1000
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: interpersonal office dynamic is a little different. Some some leaders

1001
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: are more personal than others some are just stand offish

1002
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: and don't give a shit about you. You just got

1003
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: to find people in the building who you think are

1004
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: talented or they're growing places, and you know, if it's

1005
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: not the CEO, and maybe it's you know, a vice

1006
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: president or something, and just try to develop a personal

1007
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: relationship and let them know, like, you know, I want

1008
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: to be sitting where you're sitting. What can I do that? Also,

1009
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: ask people that you work around advice. You know, people

1010
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: love their egostroped, so like, ask them a story, ask

1011
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: them how they got to where they're at. People like

1012
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: hearing that stuff people or people like telling you that stuff.

1013
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: People like being asked how they became successful. So that's

1014
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: that's always kind of an easy one because like, you know,

1015
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: trying to do some project and then hand it to

1016
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: the CEO like, hey, I think these are the whatever

1017
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: your industry is, you know, can go bad too. It

1018
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: might not look great, they might disagree with you. Pretty risky,

1019
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: But I think just getting to know people and picking

1020
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: their brain on what they did to move up the

1021
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: ladder is probably the easiest and safest tactic because one thing,

1022
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: when you're the lowest guy taking huge risks can be

1023
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: pretty risky. Like I'm all for being a big risk taker,

1024
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: but you can turn people off pretty quickly and it

1025
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: can backfire in your face. So that there's just a

1026
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: fine line of like pushing the envelope and like kind

1027
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: of staying in your lane, because most people don't like

1028
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: the guy that's trying to be like a hero when

1029
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: he's like twenty three year old, you know, with some

1030
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: economics degree from you know, some state school. So people appreciate,

1031
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, ambitious people. So you just you got to

1032
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: strike the balance. I think the easiest way is just

1033
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: get in with people and ask them and pick their

1034
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: brain and just try to, you know, forge you a

1035
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: real relationship, a real relationship. That would probably be my

1036
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: best advice. Okay, last question, massive Packer fan, What do

1037
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: the Packers do with this defense? Bury is terrible and

1038
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: should not be on the staff next year? Where he is?

1039
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Who do the Packers turn to as a defensive coordinator? Well,

1040
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: I think it depends who gets fired this year, right, Like,

1041
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: if Belichick gets fired, he's not gonna be an option.

1042
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: But as Todd Bowle is available, because last year they

1043
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: had right what's his name with the Browns, Jim Schwartz.

1044
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: Guy's clearly a pretty good defensive coordinator. Vic Fangio was

1045
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: available last year, pretty good defensive coordinator. So you gotta

1046
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: get guys that you know work, that you know are good.

1047
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: Like is we Martin Dale still on the Giants next

1048
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: year or does him and Brian Dave all on their course?

1049
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Because if he's available, all over him. I need to

1050
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: get a guy with pelts in the wall. I need

1051
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: to get a guy that knows what he's doing. Because

1052
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: that game on Sunday morning for me on the West

1053
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Coast was pretty bad. I think it was the highest

1054
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: passer rating by an opposing player in the history of

1055
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. And if you just watched it, you're like,

1056
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: it's one thing if like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady

1057
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: in their prime lights up Baker Mayfield. That was bad.

1058
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Speaker 1: And listen, he could have got rid of him last

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Speaker 1: year and he didn't and he stuck with his boy.

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Speaker 1: So it's on Matt Lafleur to make a tough decision

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Speaker 1: and fire the guy, and then the Packers have to

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Speaker 1: give him four or five million dollars to go hire

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Speaker 1: the best guy in the market, because if he'll do that,

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Speaker 1: then they'll be okay. But if they're like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you two million dollars because I'll promise you this.

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Speaker 1: Joe Barry's probably one of the lower paid defensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: in the league. If you ever one of the lower

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Speaker 1: paid defensive coordinators in the league, like, you can't really

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Speaker 1: complain when your defense looks shitty. You gotta pay a

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Speaker 1: premium for a premium. And that's what the top defensive Bowles.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the Bucks lose out, Todd Bowles gets fired.

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles isn't costing you Joe Barry money. He's costing

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Speaker 1: you two x that, maybe three x that. Like, would

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Speaker 1: you give Todd Bowles two and a half, you know,

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Speaker 1: five and a half million dollars to be your defensive coordinator? Well,

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Speaker 1: do you want to be good on defense or not?

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Speaker 1: Because if you do, then yeah, Pam the volume