1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Loucn Ou Number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton show, it 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: was the Great tear Fur that wasn't leaving Chuck Schumer 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: hosting an avocado in one hand and a corona in 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the other and saying your super Bowl party is going 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: to be ruined because of Donald Trump. One thing I 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: would suggest, Buck, maybe the stock market needs to stop 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: being as reactive to trump public commentary. I saw the 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: stock market was down I think like two and a 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: half percent this morning off the start before Mexico pledged 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: ten thousand troops to the border growing fentonyl They just 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: arrested one of the cartel leaders. And when you look 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: at how the stock market has moved since it's all 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: basically come back, there is almost no change to the 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: day's activity so far. Question for you, and I'm going 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: to dive into the Democrat parties ongoing may your identity 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: crisis here for you? Do you think Trump putting Mexico's 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: president on notice about border security and the fact that 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: he will not allow the same level of illegal drugs 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: crossing our border actually makes her job easier because it 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: makes her and Mexican government officials able to say, hey, 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: our hands are tied this is the US in other words, 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: And I haven't heard a lot of people analyze this, 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: but I'm curious what you would say there has talked 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, friend of both of ours, has said, 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: we're prepared to attack the cartels. Mexico may say publicly, no, no, no, 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: this is our sovereign territory all those things, do you 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: think privately through back channels they actually welcome that in 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: some way because it focuses the cartel's ire on the 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: United States as opposed to the Mexican targets. I actually 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: think that's under discussed, but potentially from a negotiating perspective, 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: one of these things where you say one thing publicly 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: and then are saying something else privately. 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: That really gets into I think it's really interesting theory, 34 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: and it gets into a level of understanding the cartels. 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we should bring on And if you know who 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: Joan Grillo is, I've interviewed. I love to talk to 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: a cartel expert. Fascinating. He's lived in Mexico for almost 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: thirty years. I think he's a British guy and he's 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: really just been covering the cartels. He was on a 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: Rogan show a while back. But I think getting an 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: understanding of how en meshed are the cartels with local 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: government national government in Mexico now talking about on that 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: side of things, and what their response would be. I mean, 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: doing military strikes in Mexico without the Mexican government's approval 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: or authority, is that's a that's a thorny that's a 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: thorny thing to try to grab onto. 47 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: I doubt that's in the near future. 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: However, if the Mexican government increasingly feels like it's pushed 49 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: into a corner by Trump on these issues, as sending 50 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: ten thousand troops of the border seems to be an 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: indication of we could see a change in their posture. 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: And so, you know, it's basically clay. I think it's 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: too early to know, but you ask of how does 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 2: this affect politics internally in Mexico and what is the 55 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: response going to be. I mean, there's going to be 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: a lot of ire against Trump no matter what on 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: this stuff. But that's kind of the point. He's trying 58 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: to shake things up, He's trying to rattle cages. This 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: is not meant to be a big warm hug from 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Trump to the Mexican government. 61 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: So let's see. Let's see. 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean so far, I just feel like, now Trump's 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: got He's just racking up so many wins that I 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: would be or anyone I think should be very slow 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: to is always fine, But to be overly negative about 66 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: the outlook I think doesn't make much sense given the 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: recent track record. I mentioned Chuck Schumer standing with avocados 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: in one hand and a beer in the other and 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: trying to blame Trump. One reason buck that the Democrat 70 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: response has been so patently awful. There's an article in 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: the front page of the New York Times and it 72 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: basically is like, hey, we have no message. And I 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: think that's somewhat interesting, But to me, what's They had 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: a DNC. 75 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: Selection over the weekend. A new leader was selected for 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the DNC, and that new leader was elevated on the 77 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: premise of, Hey, basically, people don't know what we actually 78 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: believe that the reason we lost in twenty twenty four 79 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: was messaging and nothing else. And I actually think that's 80 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: not true all. What the problem Democrats have is most 81 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Americans know what they stand for and don't like it. 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: A poll came out from Quinnipiac over the last several 83 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: days it had Democrats said, I think it was fifty 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: seven or fifty eight percent disapproval, the highest level of 85 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: disapproval for the party in fifteen years. And New York 86 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Times today they said, what are Americans' personal priorities? 87 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: What do they want the government to focus on? And 88 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: If you're a politician, this would be data that obviously 90 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: would go to the essence of your job. The things 91 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: that the average American cares about the economy. Number one 92 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: healthcare primarily, I would bet buck, health care costs, affordability, 93 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: insurance crisis, all that, immigration, taxes, crime, Those are according 94 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to the New York Times in a poll that they 95 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: just did, the five things that Americans most care care about. 96 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: What do they say democrats care about? And I want 97 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: you to think of that and want you to think 98 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: about how that overlaps with what Americans care about. Abortion 99 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: number one thing that democrats care about the most. I 100 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: think that that's an accurate perception. Second, LGBT policy, I 101 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: think that that is an accurate perception. Oh my god, 102 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Third buck, climate change. Third thing that Americans believe democrats 103 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: care about the most. Fourth, the state of democracy, the 104 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: first four things that Americans perceive Democrats to care about 105 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: the most don't rank on the five things that Americans 106 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: care about the most. 107 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: Healthcare is fifth. 108 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: On the list, only one of their five priorities do 109 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: Americans care about Well, this is why I would offer 110 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: that Trump's victory is a necessary national corrective, that this 111 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: was a restoration of sanity, and the Democratic Party was 112 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: truly delusional. I mean, I think the Democrat Party has 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: been rooted in delusion for years, but it reached a 114 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: really a pinnacle. It reached a new summit, and this 115 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: is the beginning of turning this around. 116 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 3: Clay. 117 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: It would be as though we were, let's say, if 118 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: you think of the country almost like we are talking 119 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: about let's say, securing our home, right, how do you 120 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: secure your home? And the Republicans that around and they're saying, well, 121 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: we got to check our locks have an alarm system, 122 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: And it used to be maybe Democrats would say, no, 123 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: you need to make sure that you know you've got 124 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, trip wires on the outside, or you need 125 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: to make sure your neighbors have a neighbor would watch. 126 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: That's actually more like Democrats a neighborhood watch program or 127 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: something and now when we say let's secure our home, 128 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: meaning this country, democrats are saying, I'm worried about the boogeyman. Yeah, 129 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm worried about you know, a monster in the closet. 130 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: And you're sitting there looking at me. You're like, that's 131 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: not even a thing. What are you talking about? How 132 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: can climate change be one of the biggest concerns that 133 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: Democrats have that there's nothing even if they were right, 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: it's not going to change, meaning that no one's gonna stop. 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: You know, we have one hundred and fifty or one 136 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: hundred and forty year fossil fuel infrastructure, as was well 137 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: stated in Landman, Right, Yeah, this isn't gonna change. China's 138 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: not going to change, India is not gonna change. They're 139 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: sitting around whining about nonsense as the most important thing 140 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: in the country. 141 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: At least climate change. You can argue, there's something to 142 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: be done to me. The craziest one on here, Buck, 143 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: is lgbt policy. 144 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: What do they want? That's crazy? 145 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: And the data reflects interestingly, Buck, only four percent of 146 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Americans care the most about lgbt Q issues. Probably the 147 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: four percent of America that tends to be LBGTQ ish 148 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: would be my argument there. But they say Democrats thirty 149 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: one percent of Americans say it's Democrats top priority. It's 150 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: just such a fundamental misapprehension of the national mood. 151 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: You've seen, But Clay, you've seen that. 152 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: The Trump administration, for example, I think has again if 153 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: I ever say something that's not this stuff is happening 154 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: so fast online. 155 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: But there's been a change. 156 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: I think they've removed from some government websites the T 157 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: meaning you know, the trans components of all of this, 158 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: or at least that's you know, this is in process 159 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: where it's lgb you know, you said it, you go, okay, 160 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: they're so concerned with LGB T member. It was lgbt 161 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: q I A plus under Biden, lgb t q I 162 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: A plus. Do not forget that is the acronym that 163 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: they were forcing us all to say. 164 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: And as if Joe Biden could remember more than two 165 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: or three of those left. 166 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine if you actually, when he's 167 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: giving a speech, said hey, what's the I, what's the A? 168 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, hey, Joe, you're president. I don't know what 169 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: They used him as a as a you know, intersex, they. 170 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: Used that's what I'm here for. They used, Actually, no, 171 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is. 172 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't even know every now and 173 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: then there are that are out there is interse I 174 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: don't what is intersex? 175 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Like you're both. 176 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: It means you're between male and female, you're something, go 177 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: back something else, you shift like one day. No, no, 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: that's bisexual or I'm sorry, No, you're talking about you're 179 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: talking about your identity Clay. 180 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Pan sexual is this is so ridiculous. Pan Sexual is 181 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: where you can just be like anything, right, You're into 182 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: every You're into everything in terms of your sexual preference. 183 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: And what is every sex letter? Your your gender is 184 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: in between male and female. You're neither male nor female. 185 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: So but but hold on, so this is yes, it's crazy, right, 186 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: But but what what you see is when they when 187 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: you have the Democrats say that LGBT rights or whatever 188 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: are the top five issue. 189 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: What is it? 190 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: Number three on the list? Number no, Number two and 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: two on their list. According to the American public. 192 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of gay and lesbian Americans 193 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: in particular, I think have figured out that it's really 194 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: all about the tea for the Democrats. Yes, you know 195 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, gay, gay and lesbian Americans can get married 196 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: in all fifty states. 197 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Have equal rights in all fifty states. 198 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, you go, what is what is the great 199 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: challenge of the lgbt Q I plus community. You know, 200 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: the challenges that the gay and lesbian community have mirror 201 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: the challenges that every other American has, because they're just 202 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: like every other American under the law and and otherwise. 203 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: And so then it's just about like, do we need 204 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: to trans kids? And I think you know you and 205 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: I have have gay friends in the conservative movement, for example, 206 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,239 Speaker 2: who look at this and they're incredibly not only opposed 207 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: to it, but angry that somehow being gay is supposed 208 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: to be wrapped in Yeah, with I think a twelve 209 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: year old needs puberty blockers. And if you don't think 210 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: that's a good idea, you're a horrible person. 211 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting? 212 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Tells you I would submit to you, Buck, And I 213 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know if we've gotten data on this. I bet 214 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: Trump got more gay and lesbian support in twenty twenty 215 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: four than any Republican presidential candidate ever has in history. 216 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: Like that, I bet on that too. 217 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take the other side of that bet yeah, 218 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: by the way, we can talk about this a little 219 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: bit more. 220 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: But I thought it was interesting. 221 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: What does the American public perceive the Republican Party to 222 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: care about? Immigration, the economy, taxes, the things that they 223 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: actually care about. 224 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: Sometimes we overthink things. 225 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: The party that does the best job of representing the 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: American public typically is the party that is talking about 227 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: the things that the American public is most concerned about. 228 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: Democrats don't have a messaging issue, buck, they have a 229 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: party issue. Well, the Republican Party has actually become the 230 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: party of we care about whether you can safely walk 231 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: down the street, whether you're able to pay your bills, 232 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: whether you're able to you know, compete in the in 233 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: the job market fairly, job marketplace fairly, you know, the 234 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: things that actually affect you and the things that actually matter. 235 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: And the Democrats, as you've been laying out, are the 236 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: party of imaginary you know, like like tilting at windmills 237 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: and imaginary challenges. And these are things in some cases, 238 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: like with climate change, it's just nuts. And that's why 239 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: they're even the New York Times are saying, guys, we 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: got to come up with something else. This can't be 241 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Well that the problem Clay is that this is who 242 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: they are as a party. Now, this is not a 243 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is not some digrect from the main 244 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: the meat of what it is that they really this 245 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: is who Democrats are. It's about trans and climate change 246 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: and democracy and anti you know, on Trump derangement syndrome. 247 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: That is what their party has become. What is their 248 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: economic message? 249 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: So the messaging isn't the problem. Americans have gotten it 250 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,479 Speaker 2: and they've rejected it. Right, this is important and Democrats 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: still haven't realized it because you know what it requires 252 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: buck looking in the mirror and being like, hey. 253 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're freaking crazy, and I almost curse there, Like, 254 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: people know what we stand for and they don't like it. 255 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: They can't they can't conceive that their policy ideas could 256 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: be so soundly rejected. 257 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: Yep, all righty. 258 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: If you're a uber or lyft driver, a truck driver, 259 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: a hairstyles, a plumber, electrician, any of one hundred professions 260 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: who earn their income on a ten ninety nine basis, 261 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: there's a COVID relief program for ten ninety nine contract 262 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: and self employed individuals that's about to end. 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Clay Travis 279 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: and Bucks Sex. 280 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 281 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 282 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: Canada, our neighbor to the north. 283 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: Perhaps an interesting future ahead for US Canada relations, That's 284 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: one way of putting it. 285 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Some people are saying, probably going to be very different. 286 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: Here is Donald Trump himself talking about I don't know 287 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: a vision of Canada going forward playing what I'd like 288 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: to see. 289 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: Canada become our fifty first state. We give them protection, 290 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: military protection. We don't need them to build our cars. 291 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: I'd rather see Detroit or South Carolina or any one 292 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: of our Tennessee, any one of our states build the cars. 293 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: They could do it very easily. 294 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: We don't need them for the cars. 295 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: We don't need them for lumber, We don't need them 296 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: for anything. We don't need them for energy. We have 297 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: more energy than they do. We don't need them for energy. 298 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: So I say, why. 299 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Are we doing this? 300 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: Why are we willing to lose between one hundred billion 301 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: and two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need 302 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: them as a state. 303 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: It's different Clay fifty first state. He says, that's just 304 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: what the President said. 305 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, we need to have more fun with this 306 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: and we come back Buck because as a history nerd, 307 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: the geographic scope of the country, I'm fascinated by, like 308 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: I'll give you one that's going to leave you like 309 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of in disbelief. I don't know if we've talked about 310 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: this before, you know what, the worst decision, arguably any 311 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: state has ever made. When it comes to geography, the 312 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: state of Alabama turned down the Panhandle of Florida. 313 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: To clay the Gulf of America. 314 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: Right there, the Gulf of America, Alabama has a small 315 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: part Orange Beach Golf Shores, beautiful area they chose not 316 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: to take from Florida the Panhandle. It theoretically has altered 317 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: the entire trajectory of American political history because that is 318 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: the most conservative part of Florida. I want to talk 319 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: about that, and also how Canada ended up being independent. 320 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: This is something that I've dove into before. 321 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Look, but I also want to tell you, speaking of 322 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: history nerds, our buddies at Hillsdale have got incredible opportunities 323 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: for you to learn more than you have ever learned 324 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: before about American history without having to end world history, 325 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: without having to worry about what grades you're gonna get 326 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: or what time the class starts. 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One more time, clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com. 337 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show talking about 338 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Trump moving at the speed of government at a minimum, 339 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: but he I mean the speed of business at a minimum, 340 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: but much faster than government typically moves, and stacking up 341 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: wins all over the place. And as we went to break, 342 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about some sort of crazy geographic quirks. 343 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: What I will say about Trump talking about Canada becoming 344 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: a fifty first state. First of all, logically not a 345 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: great idea because it probably would give Let's just talk 346 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: about the law. Let's pretend that Canada wanted to be 347 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: a fifty first state. Both of those Senate seats are 348 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: going left wing every year, you're basically getting two more Vermont. 349 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: Senators, right. 350 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that AIDS and A bets the overall 351 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: American political process, and so I think that the idea 352 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: is not necessarily one that has a beneficial long range future. 353 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: I understand the concept of hey, inside of the federalism framework, 354 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about out the trade disputes 355 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: and issues in tariffs that exist in North America. I 356 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: also understand the argument that basically Canada is around the 357 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: size a little bit smaller I believe of than California, 358 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: and so the concept of it being one state. 359 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: Now, if you wanted to pick a rural part. 360 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: Of Canada and make it the fifty first state and 361 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: then a you know, very cosmopolitan city based fifty second state, 362 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: and so the Senate seats canceled off, I actually think 363 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: that would be the more rational way to handle it personally. 364 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: But that's a dispute that what's happened back in the day. 365 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: We have an idea, and I think what Trump has 366 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: challenged on it that borders and territory are basically fixed 367 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: in place because for much of North America, in most 368 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: of our lives, the map has been set. But if 369 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you are a history nerd, buck, I love old Man 370 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: apps because you can see, oh, here is the here 371 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: is the Louisiana purchase, Like this is the French territory, 372 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: like there are maps that kids were taught in America 373 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: about that being in existence. 374 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: I have the only things of value hanging on my 375 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: walls are really old maps. I have a John Speed 376 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: map from the seventeenth century, so it's really a page 377 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: from an atlas. I have that framed here. I also 378 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: have David Burr map. David Burr was New York State's 379 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: cartographer and in eighteen twenty nine, if to remember, this 380 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: is before this is when there was no Google Earth, right, 381 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: So cartographers were really necessary and it's important for business, 382 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: important for development, important for getting you know, to great 383 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: on Ethel's house up in Buffalo, like you needed to 384 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: know where the roads were and what was going on. 385 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: So he did a map of actually Manhattan in eighteen 386 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: twenty nine. That was part of the campaign to make 387 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: me make New York the Great American city over Philadelphia, 388 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: which had been the great American city up until about 389 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, eighteen twenty nine. That's right around when the 390 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: shift started to happen for the commercial center and everything else. 391 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, I haven't anyway, Sorry, you got me excited 392 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: with your nerd map talk. I got the only thing 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: that I spend money on that's like a sort of 394 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: a keepsake other than firearms. 395 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: But I guess those are not really Oh yeah, they're keepsakes. 396 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: Is I have antique maps on my walls hundreds of 397 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: years old. 398 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: So what I love about them is that they show 399 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: you that history isn't fixed, and that much of what 400 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: we contemplate as decided was at one point very undecided 401 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: about what the countries would look like, about where the 402 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: borders would be. And obviously many times that comes about 403 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: as a result of war, but it can also come 404 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: from land purchases, treaties, all these things. I mention Canada 405 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: because if you go back and look at the Revolutionary War, 406 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: it was very much popped at that point in time 407 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: that much of Canada, Quebec in particular, could have ended 408 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: up a part of the United States, and maybe Buck 409 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: should have ended up a part of the United States 410 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: from a purely economic perspective, but the war ended up 411 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: moving south the Revolutionary War, and so the major battlegrounds 412 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: again for the history nerds out there, that started off 413 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: when we were fighting. Remember before Benedict Arnold was the 414 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: greatest turncoade. He was one of the great American heroes 415 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: of the early parts of the war. We moved very 416 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: much from the northern border in our battles all the 417 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: way down south, and so we ended up walking away 418 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: from the idea of Canada being part of the American Revolution. 419 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: But there is a subtle twist of the historical record 420 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: that would have had Canada as a part of the 421 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: United States for all this time. 422 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: I have an excellent book here on my shelf. This 423 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: is the Clay and buck Nerdouer brought to you by 424 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: nerds all over, Crucible of War by Fred Anderson, which 425 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: is about the Seven Years War, also known as the 426 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: French and Indian War, and it goes into just a 427 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: fascinating detail about you know, people don't think of this really, Clay, 428 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: but the French had forts, you know, they had built 429 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: forts in and around the trading post. But that became 430 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: really the frontier and British and the French smacked together 431 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: there and that led to and the French and Indian War, 432 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: and of course the Indian allies of the French and 433 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: then the British as well played a critical role of 434 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: miss and we then things didn't go so well for 435 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: them after. 436 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: But you know, we don't think of. 437 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: This as a an area, a land mass that was 438 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 2: being fought over by imperial powers at the time, and 439 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: that it really was quite arbitrary and things could have 440 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: been quite different at the time, you know, afterwards, based 441 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: upon a few battles and a few relatively you know, 442 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: fortuitous happenstance situations. 443 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you my craziest decision any states 444 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: ever made when it came to territory. The state of 445 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: Alabama was offered before anybody knew that the sandy white 446 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: beaches of the Gulf of America would become some of 447 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the most valuable real estate in all of America, the 448 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: state of Alabama, because if you look at it, it 449 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really make. 450 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Sense geographically, right. You have Florida, which extends as a 451 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: peninsula down and then you have the so called Panhandle, which, 452 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: if you think about, you know, like a typical pan 453 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: like a small little strip of land that runs essentially 454 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: directly south of Alabama all the way down to where 455 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: it meets Alabama. Buck they offered Florida, did the State 456 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: of Alabama the right to take that land? Alabama, some 457 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: of you might say, this is just what Alabama politicians 458 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: have been doing for a long time, totally bungled that offer, 459 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: didn't take advantage of it, and now that. 460 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Is the most conservative part of Florida. Now, no one 461 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: knew this in the eighteen hundreds when they were making 462 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: that choice. But if you go back and look at 463 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: elections in two thousand, certainly in two thousand, but in 464 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: many of the close elections that have occurred in our 465 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: country where Florida was sort of the tipping point, if 466 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: all of those votes had gone to Alabama, it wouldn't 467 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: really have changed the overall outcome of the state of Alabama. 468 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: It's a very conservative, Republican leaning state. Also, it would 469 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: have made the state of Alabama infinitely wealthier because the 470 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: property along the Gulf Coast is again some of the 471 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: most valuable in our entire nation. Now instead they have 472 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: a tiny little pinprick Alabama does. If you look at 473 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the way the map works of the Gulf Coast, and 474 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: the state of Florida has the most conservative ribbon running 475 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: right along the Gulf coast. That is the Panhandle from 476 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: basically the Florida Bama for those of you who know 477 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: that bar which is a fabulous bar buck, half of 478 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: it's in Alabama, half of it's in Florida. It's right 479 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: on the on the beautiful the Gulf of America. It's 480 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: an amazing spot, all the way down, all the way 481 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Atlantic Ocean. 482 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 3: You can be in the state of Florida. Didn't. Nobody 483 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: knows this story. Didn't. It's funny you it would have 484 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: been living on the Alabama coast. Clay. 485 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: West Virginia split off from Virginia right before the Civil. 486 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: War during the Civil War. 487 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: During the Civil War, the West Virginia the because it 488 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: was a supremely mountainous region of Virginia. 489 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: They never had big crops. 490 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: And uh and uh and and farms and slavery in 491 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: the same way. And so it broke off and became 492 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: an independent state during the Civil. 493 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: War eighteen sixty. Right, I thought the refused to seceed. Yeah, 494 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: And you. 495 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: Know that's interesting because people laugh at the idea. And 496 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, we sit here talk about how many listeners 497 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: we have in California and how we're you know, we 498 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: feel a strong bond with you Republicans in California and 499 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: in New York, you know, in these big blue states 500 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: because we are the voice behind enemy lines for you. Right, 501 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, you're not alone We're like the transmission on 502 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: the on the ham radio after the zombie apocalypse that says, 503 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: don't worry, like there is civilization. You can come to 504 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: these coordinates and we'll keep you safe from the zombies. 505 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: Every zombie apocalyst movie has that. But the truth is, 506 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: every time there's a conversation about a state splitting up, 507 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: people always dismissed it out of him. We've actually had 508 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: states split up into other states. Never mind no states 509 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: being admitted into the Union. 510 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: Buck. 511 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: You talk about old maps. Back in the day they 512 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: had north and south. I think that would be longitudinal lines, right, 513 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: but the initial colonies just continued west. They didn't really 514 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: know where the boundary of the states ended. So there 515 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: are some maps like you'll North Carolina. It's not it's 516 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: not a crazy thing that North Carolina and Tennessee are 517 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: basically on the same latitude longitude, not obviously, but you 518 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: look right across like that was the state of North 519 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Carolina that just kept extending on into infinity until enough 520 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: people went into Tennessee and decided they were going to 521 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: create their own state. 522 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: And you know, to bring it into the current context, 523 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 2: I think Clay, First of all, Trump's got a lot 524 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: of negotiating going on right now regarding the Panama Canal. 525 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: There's been talk about Greenland too, and the US having 526 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: by contract, and obviously there's a whole deep history here. 527 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: We built the Panama Canal. We lost a lot of 528 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: people doing it. It was a hellish thing, people dying 529 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: of malaria and typhus and you know, yellow fever and 530 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. But we built the Panama Canal, 531 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: and then Jimmy Carter right decided, you know what, it's all, 532 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: it's all Panama, but the same way that you know, 533 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: why is Guama US territory? Well, it is because it 534 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: is because we made it that way, and everyone seems 535 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: kind of happy with it. There's no reason why you 536 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: can't have negotiations over some of these things, because a 537 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: nation is not just a land mass defined by rivers, 538 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: oceans or mountains, right. 539 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: I mean, there's. 540 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: Always there's always borders that are arbitrary that are drawn, 541 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: and there's competing polities, competing nation states that make determinations 542 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: about who should be in charge of what. In the 543 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: context of Greenland, you know what it's it's Oh, it's 544 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: been a part of Denmark for such a long time. 545 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: Why Now, look, if the people of Greenland don't want 546 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: to be a part of America, that's up to them, fine. 547 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: But if they wanted to vote in favor of joining 548 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: US as there, why is that such a There's nothing 549 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: crazy about that. 550 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: It's funny. We think that's crazy. Why is that? Or 551 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: rather people say that's crazy? Why is that crazy? 552 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Because in most of our lives, maps have remained relatively 553 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: fixed in our geographic arena, and so that's this is 554 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: why I think is so important about this. Trump is 555 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: basically signaling the country isn't settled, right, We still have 556 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: more growth and opportunity ahead of us, both economically but 557 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: also maybe geographically. And talking about it, remember when he 558 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: first started talking about Greenland, everybody thought it was crazy. 559 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Now I think there's a decent number of people out 560 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: there that are like, yeah, you know what, they may 561 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: vote to leave Denmark, stop being a colony of Denmark, 562 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: and maybe they would like to be supported by the 563 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: United States. 564 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: We've had a new country. Uh, just over the last 565 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: decade or so, Clay on the spot, what is the 566 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: new country? TikTok, TikTok. We got a million dollar question 567 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: for Clay. I don't know who the million is coming from. 568 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it would be now. 569 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean in Africa, it seems like they were coming 570 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: up with new countries all the time. So I'm very 571 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: close in Africa, you're close. South Sudan, South Sudan, South Sudan, the. 572 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: Newest not not doing well these days, I might add, 573 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: by the way, no one pays any attention speaking of 574 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: not big rock concerts about it. 575 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of Africa, Buck, only fifty percent of Africa has electricity. 576 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 3: Do you know this? 577 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: Only fifty percent of there's a big graphic about It's 578 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: like ninety percent of some African countries still don't have electricity. 579 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, when you say electricity, you mean wait, are we 580 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: talking about twenty four to seven access to it? Or 581 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: are we talking about I think just like it's wired 582 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: and you have, you know, reliable access to are we 583 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: talking about by land mass? But like the population centers 584 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: in Africa overwhelmingly have electricity in terms of from the 585 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: New York Times that I took a photo of over 586 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: the weekend that I was staggered maybe considered to be Yeah, 587 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: that showed the percentage of many of these countries that 588 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: still do not have electricity when I was in Afghanistan. 589 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: I think the estimate was that roughly twenty percent of 590 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: the country had access to reliable Like this is the thing, right, 591 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: reliable electricity because you can always travel and get to 592 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: a place as a generator. So I think, you know, 593 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: I want to see what the New York Times is saying. 594 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: How you kind of frame it really matters. But about 595 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the country had real electric access and 596 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the country could read. 597 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: That was the statistic they had. 598 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: So here's a stat for you, buck, forty five percent 599 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: of Nigeria doesn't have electricity. I just sent it to you. 600 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: This is nerd out stuff. We'll talk about it when 601 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: we come back. This was in the New York Times 602 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: over the weekend because I took a picture of it. 603 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of blown away. I think you've got the 604 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: read you're nerding out now on the map over I'm 605 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: it's too. 606 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: Much fun with maps and electricity access and New Nation 607 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: state creation and greenland. If you're a firearm owner, I 608 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: was just the rangest past weekend. Oh, I got to 609 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: post it. I got a photo of me shooting my 610 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: Grizzly nine millimeter hitting steel. 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Electricity 640 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: stayed on in my apartment, which was a excess. You 641 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: made it through a text telling me I think that 642 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: I think that the electrical company guys might be Clay 643 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: and Buck listeners, and they like, we're gonna give me 644 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: till three o'clock Eastern time because we did shut in. 645 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: You guys don't realize this unless you watch the video 646 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: at Clayanbuck dot com or become a clan Buck vip. 647 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: Uh the all power went out last week during the show, 648 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: and uh, I did, yeah, and so that was not ideal. 649 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: I was sitting in darkness. 650 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: The radio kept working, but for a little while, yes, 651 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: for a while, you started to beep. Then the beeping happened, 652 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 2: and I had to step aside when the beeping because 653 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: it sounded like we were on the countdown to the 654 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: asteroid exploding or something in here. Uh so, yeah, we've 655 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: got we've got that going on, which is nice. I 656 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 2: wanted to take some calls. Do we still have any 657 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: calls up? Or do we scare them away by not 658 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: taking them before? 659 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: Guys? 660 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Let me know play the Oh you know what, I 661 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: got one thing. Maybe we can talk about this tomorrow 662 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: because I want to talk about today. Washington Examiner had 663 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 2: this story that Pacific Palisades rebuilt in LA. You see 664 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: this must include low income housing. Yeah, people aren't happy 665 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: about that. 666 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 667 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 2: Being a Democrat sometimes means you actually have to deal 668 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: with Democrat stuff. 669 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: And I think we should discuss how this. 670 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: Some of us said it's going to be a very 671 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: slow rebuild, and it's going to be a very different rebuild. 672 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: But this is what happens Los Angeles. 673 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: They're in trouble and they're dealing with the consequences of 674 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: their choices. The consequences, however, of the nation's choices have 675 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: been fabulous, and we're going to continue to break them 676 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: down with you every single day. As one victory after 677 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: another rolls in from Trump two point zero. I can't 678 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: get enough of it. I know y'all can't either. We'll 679 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel. Stay healthy, 680 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: everybody flues everywhere