Speaker 1: Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hi y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2: Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Speaker 2: Other Side.
Speaker 1: Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
Speaker 1: everything on the other side.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
Speaker 2: or to some the invisible world, life is going to
Speaker 2: be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1: Uh heck, yes it can. Because, let's be honest, br in,
Speaker 1: earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2: That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, my witchy poo, it is your twelve year
Speaker 1: old elfie do rhyme. But I did like naming this one.
Speaker 2: But you did knock yourself out on this title. I'll
Speaker 2: give you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, I because I think. The
Speaker 1: other day I saw on I don't know one of
Speaker 1: my app screens, on my streaming screens, the movie called Blockers,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, this is what we need to
Speaker 1: call it. The first name. Well, anyway, we won't go
Speaker 1: down that rabbit hole, no need to. But how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, hanging in there, just doing the deal.
Speaker 2: Waiting for spear.
Speaker 1: It looks fabulous. You're very kind, and how are you well?
Speaker 1: I was hoping you would ask, because I need to
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm wearing. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: done what I'm wearing. I'm wearing, Okay, we'll start from
Speaker 1: the feet. I'm wearing some fuzzy crocs.
Speaker 2: I did not know those two words ever went together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have fuzzy crocs now, like on the inside, fuzzy.
Speaker 1: It's cold here in the mountains. And then I have
Speaker 1: a camo sweatpants on, and then I have strong choice
Speaker 1: way it gets better. And then I have this plaid thing.
Speaker 1: I bought it like Sam's Wholesale Club, I don't know
Speaker 1: how long ago. But it's also fuzzy as well. And
Speaker 1: then I have my water thing, which I'm turning over
Speaker 1: here to get that says, there's a good chance this
Speaker 1: is my tie and it's my little water jug. So
Speaker 1: there you have it.
Speaker 2: That's me today.
Speaker 1: You mismatched, messy and funny.
Speaker 2: You are the full packet, just always always fuzzy or not,
Speaker 2: You're always I.
Speaker 1: Know everything's fuzzy. And then in wait, I have one
Speaker 1: less thing to share in my right like little breast pocket,
Speaker 1: I keep poop bags.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: So when I take Suki out, I have poop bags
Speaker 1: also in my pocket. So hi, everybody, I have a
Speaker 1: whole role. Yep, I do. She's a pooper. What kind
Speaker 1: of thing?
Speaker 2: There you go?
Speaker 1: Okay? So today, oh my lord. Okay. So it's interesting,
Speaker 1: as we both agree every day of our lives these
Speaker 1: in the last five years, is we love our listeners.
Speaker 1: And one of our listeners, this guy is incredible. His
Speaker 1: name is Jeff, and Jeff has a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: a lot to share, a lot of things unpack and
Speaker 1: what's interesting. And the reason I wanted to call it
Speaker 1: ghost block is because most people come to us because
Speaker 1: they want to get in touch with, you know, the
Speaker 1: other side. And he has a whole family trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to tame it. And so it's that
Speaker 1: old classic thing. It's like we you know, we always
Speaker 1: won't we can't have, but then when we have it, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Maybe I don't want it
Speaker 1: after all.
Speaker 2: Be careful what you wish for, people.
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. Okay. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot with him. So I'm going to start with the
Speaker 1: first message that he sent me. Okay, and it's a scenario,
Speaker 1: so you're ready for the story scenario.
Speaker 2: I'm following your lead, okay.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is like Jeff's episode, so
Speaker 1: we're just gonna call it Jeff's episode because this is
Speaker 1: all about Jeff Andes's family. He says, as I was
Speaker 1: cleaning the property of the gentleman that passed away in
Speaker 1: order to mow, I was throwing things on his burn pile.
Speaker 1: I walked around and was and was adding sticks. As
Speaker 1: I came back to it with the second or third
Speaker 1: armload of sticks, I see four or five coins that
Speaker 1: weren't there previously. Ps. I'd pick them up put in
Speaker 1: my pocket. But what if he says, he goes, what
Speaker 1: would be the significance of them potentially being burnt like
Speaker 1: they weren't there then they showed up. So I'd want
Speaker 1: me to do the whole thing and then we go back. Sure, Okay.
Speaker 1: Then he adds, also, a few days earlier, I was
Speaker 1: walking the property and making sure it was secure for
Speaker 1: the to state family. I guess the guy's family. He
Speaker 1: lived out of state. I walked back to where we
Speaker 1: found him. Huh. I guess they found him on the property.
Speaker 1: I had my twenty three three year old daughter with me.
Speaker 1: She she didn't want me to go over there alone,
Speaker 1: with the emoji of your hands up, like, why doesn't
Speaker 1: she want me to go over there? She also is
Speaker 1: one of I mean, one of his daughters that is
Speaker 1: also quite sensitive. And then he adds as I as
Speaker 1: I stood where he was found, she said she got
Speaker 1: the sensation that she couldn't Breathe said it would lessen
Speaker 1: when I got away from the location. She stayed fifteen
Speaker 1: or so feet away from me. Was his spirit telling
Speaker 1: her he suffocated? Question mark. Oh, Melanie and I met
Speaker 1: by chance. Both felt pulled into this. Sorry. Oh, he
Speaker 1: read my book and he spelled it r E D Jeff,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do a little spell check. My
Speaker 1: friend good and so in his way totally because it
Speaker 1: may be giggle and he goes he also listened to
Speaker 1: my book. He's buying crystals, he's reading more books, using
Speaker 1: protection prayers and trying to enlighten himself to open up.
Speaker 1: He's also been journaling and has tried to speak to spirit,
Speaker 1: but no answers yet. So let's go back to the questions.
Speaker 1: And I love this is awesome. I love that he's
Speaker 1: like trying.
Speaker 2: So the first what I love is that, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have been listening to us for
Speaker 2: a while, right and practicing some of the things that
Speaker 2: they're hearing from us and learning in other places. And
Speaker 2: it's really such a fun journey to unfold in such
Speaker 2: an exciting phase when you start doing it with consciousness
Speaker 2: and clarity and obviously hopefully protection because that's really important.
Speaker 2: But this is, you know, real time for him. So
Speaker 2: I love this example.
Speaker 1: It's real time for him, and thank you.
Speaker 2: It's just being generous with your stories and your questions.
Speaker 2: So that's really fantastic.
Speaker 1: And one more shout out to him because I got
Speaker 1: to give him credit for this. He talks about it
Speaker 1: with his family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it sounds like I have it going on.
Speaker 1: So they have it. Go what his daughters do, and
Speaker 1: I just found out last night that as does his wife.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. So do you want to should
Speaker 1: we address this or do I want to take a
Speaker 1: quickie break and come back? And let's like kind of
Speaker 1: answer because there's two really kind of big sets of questions.
Speaker 1: You want to take a break and come back? Absolutely
Speaker 1: all right, y'all, we'll be right back, and I'll still
Speaker 1: be wearing the same thing, and We're back every time.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things like kids when
Speaker 1: they hear the same joke over and over and over,
Speaker 1: that giggle every time. It's funny every time. So we did.
Speaker 1: Brenda did the like poof we're back kind of hand
Speaker 1: hand gesture. Okay, so Jeff, this is back to Jeff.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to when he was clearing the
Speaker 1: property for the minute for the man, the gentleman who
Speaker 1: had passed on, who had jumped. There's two pieces to it.
Speaker 1: One is his daughter feeling this the feeling suffocated, and
Speaker 1: the other one is the coin. So do you want
Speaker 1: to hear do you want to get his talk about
Speaker 1: his daughter and being at the location where they found him.
Speaker 2: Well, there's said no, actually I want to go to
Speaker 2: the coins first.
Speaker 1: I want to go the coins.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Well in the order that he unfolded it, right.
Speaker 1: So there's a burn pile. So just just just totally
Speaker 1: just not I think I started that too, by the way,
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's stop topics fun. I know, no, it's
Speaker 1: not sex ass. So so the way that he described
Speaker 1: it was you know, he was getting like armloads of
Speaker 1: sticks to add to this pile, right, and then when
Speaker 1: he came back he found how many coins? Did he say? Found?
Speaker 1: He found multiple coins. I can't get my phone to it.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, so a couple of yeah fo.
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify, for you know, city folk
Speaker 1: burn pile is when you have a yard, an outdoor
Speaker 1: space that's far away from the house. You don't your
Speaker 1: leaves don't get picked up on the curb, you don't
Speaker 1: pile them in a corner for composting. You literally burn them,
Speaker 1: whether it's grass clippings or whatever. Right, So this is
Speaker 1: something that's done in rural spaces. Everybody doesn't know that.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm a hillbilly, so I do know that.
Speaker 1: I think that's good you explained. No, I think it's fair.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be inclusive, but I do think especially
Speaker 2: it's important to clarify because we've already established that this
Speaker 2: is that a It sounds like someone passed on their
Speaker 2: own property, and we want to make sure that people
Speaker 2: don't know that it's not a burial burn.
Speaker 1: You know, it is not that a guess, correct it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like there was any scary Malfie sense that
Speaker 1: went on here.
Speaker 2: Now this is just a way to deal with yard refuge.
Speaker 2: So my impression when you said this is he something
Speaker 2: about Jeff and we don't have him here, so I'm
Speaker 2: hoping he's listening and we'll get back to us.
Speaker 1: But oh, he knows he's having an episode codicated, so
Speaker 1: he'll be listening, he'll get back.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, jea. But this is the deal. My impression
Speaker 2: is the energy he carries is actually quite intentional, and
Speaker 2: his work is energetically, jetically exquisite. So he is holding
Speaker 2: space like I don't know if someone else is taking
Speaker 2: is moving into this space, but he's caring for this space,
Speaker 2: holding that this person who passed in mind or in
Speaker 2: his heart as he's doing his work and so like
Speaker 2: he's literally caring for this man's property.
Speaker 1: And my well, he was preparing it for the out
Speaker 1: of town family.
Speaker 2: Oh he's prepared, right, Okay, so so he was, but
Speaker 2: he but my impression is this is this was payment.
Speaker 1: I got that impression too, right.
Speaker 2: It was literally payment, like thank you, and of course
Speaker 2: it's coined, so it wasn't about the amount that he's
Speaker 2: paying Jeff. It's like, I'm going to show you the
Speaker 2: greatest alchemy that I can muster to acknowledge what you're
Speaker 2: doing for my family. This was a family guy who passed.
Speaker 2: I do feel I don't know any you know, if
Speaker 2: this is helpful irrelevant, but my impression is that he
Speaker 2: was not someone who is overly verbal in his life, like.
Speaker 1: Oh, interesting, Well Jeff tell us that.
Speaker 2: He and it could be that he did speak, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't about what was really going on, like you know,
Speaker 2: small talk blah blah blah, but as opposed to like, hey,
Speaker 2: I really I really appreciate this, but this is something
Speaker 2: that he could how he knew from the spirit world
Speaker 2: to show appreciation, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: I like it. That's super cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, actually they weren't meant to be burnt, because that
Speaker 1: was his question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping they didn't burn him. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: not a problem if he did, because he saw them
Speaker 2: and that's what was important.
Speaker 1: But I haven't writing that he saw them, So okay,
Speaker 1: I have proof in the annals of my phone that
Speaker 1: so he did.
Speaker 2: When you got that it was payment, what did what
Speaker 2: came for you? What else came for you.
Speaker 1: Well, it was I felt it was payment for it's
Speaker 1: I don't think it was as eloquent as what you said,
Speaker 1: because nothing I say this is always one to say. But
Speaker 1: it felt like a gratitude, like a thank you, and
Speaker 1: it and like a toe. And that's the other thing
Speaker 1: to me. A coin is a token. So it was
Speaker 1: a token of appreciation, like you said, It wasn't about
Speaker 1: It wasn't some you know, rare coin that he placed
Speaker 1: in front of him. It was a token of appreciation.
Speaker 1: Is I think was the translation that I got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, beautiful good.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know yours is better.
Speaker 2: Well I don't know about that, but it's so good.
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I was so cool. We both agree. Oh
Speaker 1: so then he he goes on and talks about is
Speaker 1: a few days prior that he was walking the property
Speaker 1: making sure it was secure for that of state family.
Speaker 1: And then when they he said, I walked back to
Speaker 1: where we found him. So it sounds like he's the
Speaker 1: one who found his neighbor, that his twenty three year
Speaker 1: old daughter was with him and did not want him
Speaker 1: to go over there. And this is going to lead
Speaker 1: in because this is what I thought. It would be
Speaker 1: good to talk about this story and then lead into
Speaker 1: his family. And I have permission to ask all these
Speaker 1: questions from him. I got permission from him last night
Speaker 1: because you know, permission is critical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very important, very important.
Speaker 1: It is. And so he said, as he stood there
Speaker 1: where they found him, she got the sensation that she
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe, and said that it would lessen when he
Speaker 1: would move away from the location. She stayed about fifteen
Speaker 1: or so feet away from him, his daughter. And then
Speaker 1: so the question is was his spirit telling her he suffocated?
Speaker 2: I you a yes on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a yes too, So it would change
Speaker 1: though as as her dad moved from the location. That's
Speaker 1: the part that threw me a little bit. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's just how she senses things is more location based,
Speaker 1: you know, because I would think.
Speaker 2: Well, my impression is that she has specific gifts, right,
Speaker 2: she has. She's sensitive to the energy fields, but she
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily have the discernment to go yes to the
Speaker 2: next layer. So she's sensitive that, oh, trauma happened in
Speaker 2: this zone, but she's not able to say oh, but
Speaker 2: it's not because of the location. It's just this is
Speaker 2: where he My impression is he's I don't know if
Speaker 2: something flew in his throat or he has allergies that
Speaker 2: got in his throat, but it wasn't. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: like he was chewing gum and it got stuck in
Speaker 2: his throat. It wasn't like anyone attacked him and choked him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that at all. It was like somehow
Speaker 2: he started coughing. It could have been an allergy, it
Speaker 2: could have been something he inhales accidentally, right, And it
Speaker 2: just I don't know, if he wasn't very healthy to
Speaker 2: start with, I kind of get that impression, but.
Speaker 1: It feels a little older to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what took him down. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: obviously got very serious very quickly. But it again, it
Speaker 2: wasn't the location. It's not like, oh this place is
Speaker 2: jinxed or there's a curse or you know whatever. It's
Speaker 2: just that's where the accident happened. Does that make sense, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it till it makes sense. Yeah, So I think the discernment,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, she's just now kind of coming
Speaker 2: into a lot of this, Yeah, of course, but I
Speaker 2: mean you know that she's you know, has the sensitivity
Speaker 2: and will hopefully listen to her own guidance and back
Speaker 2: up when she needs to and take care of herself.
Speaker 1: And how again, how sweet this family talks about this
Speaker 1: like this, there's this brings I could it could not
Speaker 1: bring me more joy? Yeah, it's then this family talks
Speaker 1: about this, Yeah, and support. You're communicating about it. I
Speaker 1: love it, right, Yeah, So okay, can we talk about out, Jeff.
Speaker 1: So here's what he said. He goes, I see things auras, shapes, shadows,
Speaker 1: and people and things. He talks like, I do stuff
Speaker 1: and things. He goes, I hear my name when I shouldn't,
Speaker 1: meaning when other people aren't around humans. I feel energy
Speaker 1: in other people's emotions. I smell things that aren't around,
Speaker 1: he says. Friday, at work, I smelled brat's cooking all
Speaker 1: damn day. I work in a factory. My other four
Speaker 1: co workers thought I was losing it. And then he goes,
Speaker 1: I have deja vous moments and dreams a lot.
Speaker 2: So what we want to make sure he's doing is
Speaker 2: a couple of things. Right, of course, being able to catalog,
Speaker 2: like just capture and write down is the things he's
Speaker 2: receiving and noticing so that's all the visions, all the
Speaker 2: you know who's you know, when someone called to me
Speaker 2: here in this location, this is what I heard. This
Speaker 2: is what the voice sounded like. This is the impression
Speaker 2: I had. Like, just make quick bullet points. It could
Speaker 2: be in your phone, it could be in you know whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's really helpful to capture them because you think
Speaker 2: you're going to remember, but you will not because there's
Speaker 2: so many and we live moment to moment.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't seem freaked out about it. I think
Speaker 1: it's like trying to is trying to kind of unwrap it.
Speaker 2: A bit, right, And so my point about cataloging is
Speaker 2: that it's really helpful to catalog so that you can
Speaker 2: look back and see Sometimes you won't understand the message
Speaker 2: until it's until you can look back at the pattern,
Speaker 2: and that's how you begin to create this symbology dictionary
Speaker 2: between you and your guides. That's really helpful. You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: when they show me this isn't this, this is what
Speaker 2: they were pointing to, and you can pull it together
Speaker 2: or you know, connect the dots going backwards. But in
Speaker 2: the moment, it's really hard until you start capturing it
Speaker 2: and it seems kind of silly to do it, but
Speaker 2: it's really helpful to do that.
Speaker 1: No, I actually want to go back to one of
Speaker 1: the stories that I researched when I was writing my
Speaker 1: book mostly about you, but this was this part wasn't
Speaker 1: about you, and this was about a guy, and this
Speaker 1: is about the smelly Claire. So when he would go
Speaker 1: in to pick up a prescription, he had this smell,
Speaker 1: like overwhelming when he walked into the pharmacy, and he
Speaker 1: would leave every time, and he kept notes about what
Speaker 1: he was smelling and all of that. Come to find out,
Speaker 1: there was an ingredient that was in the medication he
Speaker 1: was supposed to pick up that would have killed him. Oh,
Speaker 1: so it was a warning sign for him. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this is what Jeff has experienced. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never known a brat to kill somebody, but maybe.
Speaker 2: I think it's brought even brought.
Speaker 1: I mean it broad is the Southern.
Speaker 2: I'm from Wisconsin, we know these things totally.
Speaker 1: I don't know these things. I know a hot dogge.
Speaker 2: So so that's that's so again.
Speaker 1: But to support your point about that is that is
Speaker 1: a specific story that I remember researching and and what
Speaker 1: this I think was a man that went through when
Speaker 1: he would have the horrible offending smells. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: have to I would get yeah. Yeah. And then there's
Speaker 1: another one about taste. Somebody who was tasting, like when
Speaker 1: they walk up this horrible horrible taste and it was, by.
Speaker 2: The way, both were medication, by the way, interesting, interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it was the taste in my book. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this is this is why it's really important to
Speaker 2: log things so you can see the connection. It's it's
Speaker 2: really helpful. Of course, it's only helpful A if you
Speaker 2: do it, and b if you review it. Just pick
Speaker 2: a day, you know, on the fifteenth and thirtieth of
Speaker 2: each month, I'm gon go back and look over, you
Speaker 2: know what I wrote over the last two weeks, you know,
Speaker 2: and then once a quarter go through the whole three
Speaker 2: months just to see any trends something. Keep it simple
Speaker 2: like that. But consistency is important. So that's the first
Speaker 2: thing I would say. The second thing is as always,
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before, but it's always worth repeating,
Speaker 2: which is, when you hear someone called your name, ask right,
Speaker 2: ask who is who's speaking? Who's speaking? Show me who's
Speaker 2: speaking right, or if you have a relationship with your
Speaker 2: joy guide specifically, right, they are the gatekeepers. So it's
Speaker 2: really helpful if you know, you bring in your joy
Speaker 2: guide immediately to stand between you and who's you know,
Speaker 2: this voice that you're not familiar with or you have
Speaker 2: an identified yet, because their job is to bounce anyone
Speaker 2: who doesn't have clearance, right, it really helpful. So you
Speaker 2: can bring your drug guide or your protector right, but
Speaker 2: either one will work.
Speaker 1: And then also just so people know if if you don't,
Speaker 1: if your strength isn't clear audience, you could feel who
Speaker 1: it is. Like there's all the different ways for us
Speaker 1: to even though he might be hearing his name, maybe
Speaker 1: he gets answers from his guides another way, is all
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, if if you hear your name right,
Speaker 2: you don't know it could be it could be a
Speaker 2: spirit that you know, but you're out of context and
Speaker 2: you're not expecting it. That can be like kind of
Speaker 2: jar you. Also, I would think that there's it can
Speaker 2: be startling to just hear your name called and you're
Speaker 2: not expecting it. You're not like in a meditative state
Speaker 2: or you know, you're not wide open. It can feel
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, someone coming up behind you.
Speaker 1: Boo, Like literally.
Speaker 2: Was just like what right? So, so I do think
Speaker 2: it's important to just, you know, qualify who's whoever's speaking,
Speaker 2: and your chances are if you're you. He seems very empathic.
Speaker 2: If it's one of his guides, he's probably going to know.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that he here's his name, it's not
Speaker 2: one of his guides that he recognizes. So when I
Speaker 2: say identify yourself, that could be through you know, an impression,
Speaker 2: intuitive hit, it could be auditorially, it could be visually,
Speaker 2: it could be all different ways. Right, They could just
Speaker 2: flash you an image. I'm like, oh, I know you.
Speaker 2: We weren't friends, but I remember you when you were here.
Speaker 1: I love the images. That's what happened, you know, it
Speaker 1: was funny. I was I saw uh, my friend Tricia
Speaker 1: last week, and when I walked in, there's a picture
Speaker 1: of her brother Bobby that had jumped gosh. I think
Speaker 1: I was thirty year of college. Sorry, doing math everybody,
Speaker 1: So we're talking thirty five years ago maybe, And I
Speaker 1: remember Bobby trying to come through and he had to
Speaker 1: show me a picture because I did like what I
Speaker 1: was being told. I was like, who is that hunt? What?
Speaker 1: And it was Bobby and then and that's when the
Speaker 1: recognition happened, when the good stuff started coming in too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is fun. So we should probably take a break.
Speaker 1: Yeah we should. Okay, we'll be run back yet and
Speaker 1: I still same outfit.
Speaker 2: Welcome back?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, hi you guys, Okay, yeah, I missed.
Speaker 1: One kind of important thing that Jeff's shared is that
Speaker 1: he feels at times kind of spirits crawling in bed
Speaker 1: next to him, which I've totally had that shit happen.
Speaker 1: It pisses me off.
Speaker 2: I've had it happened too. It is very very upsetting.
Speaker 1: It is boundary problems, and a lot of.
Speaker 2: Times when that happens, it's combined with a paralysis, right, Uh,
Speaker 2: not always, but often at least That's how I've heard report.
Speaker 1: I haven't had it like that. I've just been they've
Speaker 1: just been crawl.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just bed hogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just bed hogs kind of thing. And I that's
Speaker 1: what he's referring to. I don't think that.
Speaker 2: He's Okay, so he hasn't the paralysis Okay, No, he
Speaker 2: didn't mention that, but when I've experienced it and I've
Speaker 2: heard about it's usually with paralysis. So what's important in
Speaker 2: that scenario is to remember really clearly that you are
Speaker 2: in charge of your space energetically, right, spirits are not
Speaker 2: in charge of your energetic space. You are own it,
Speaker 2: claim it, and just when you embody that memory fully
Speaker 2: in the moment, they will dissipate. Then of course it
Speaker 2: doesn't hard to call it not guides or say prayers
Speaker 2: of protection really fast.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, I of course I told him tell
Speaker 1: him to get the fuck out, but because that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. So prayers are good, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Just take in dominion over your space. That is really
Speaker 1: the key. I think prayers are probably a little more gentle.
Speaker 1: I have certainly done that as well. But like when
Speaker 1: they when they shock me, when they kind of startle me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, come on, you don't belong there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So his daughter and his daughter's younger, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get an age here. She's okay, Well one is twenty three.
Speaker 1: She has another daughter too, but they both actually are sensitive.
Speaker 1: And he said that she by the way, she's ghosting
Speaker 1: photos because he sent me some photos some old family
Speaker 1: photos that he got on ancestry dot com. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's testing me or he was just checking
Speaker 1: his daughter's work. He was testing one of us, and
Speaker 1: so I sent him. Of course, what I normally do
Speaker 1: is I send a photo back with circles and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And he goes, oh, my daughter
Speaker 1: got the two on the left, not the one on
Speaker 1: the right kind of thing. And so he started talking
Speaker 1: about her more, and he said that she sees things
Speaker 1: in the fringes of her vision, which is how I
Speaker 1: remember I started me too. She also hears her name
Speaker 1: being called, and then she also smells things in rooms
Speaker 1: that no one else's does. And again she's twenty three,
Speaker 1: So I don't have the same advice for her as
Speaker 1: her father, but maybe it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: No, it's pretty much the same, right, pretty much the same.
Speaker 2: And then notes, I mean take notes, and you know,
Speaker 2: practice your prayer protection and then meditate, because the other
Speaker 2: thing is if these are your guides coming through, if
Speaker 2: they don't know their guides, and you know they're trying
Speaker 2: to work with them, what happens is when you start
Speaker 2: a meditation practice, then your guides have a regular time,
Speaker 2: a regular invite a standing invite in your schedule of
Speaker 2: when to come through, and then they don't have to
Speaker 2: spook you or surprise you. Right, those breakthroughs will diminish
Speaker 2: unless it's purposeful, like hey you need to know this now.
Speaker 2: Hey there's a blue truck coming you know whatever, right,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But then it'll be purposeful and it
Speaker 2: won't be disruptive because you've laid out the welcome mat
Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, arrived at this time. This time is
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 1: That's kind of right, right, Yeah, I think that's yes.
Speaker 1: I think that especially if you don't want to hide
Speaker 1: from them, if they're not scary or they're not like
Speaker 1: tripping you out. You know, it is a I think meditation,
Speaker 1: ask who someone is, if somebody, if there's a spirit
Speaker 1: that's kind of a space invader, you know, they got
Speaker 1: to get out. But I think the meditation, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how I Yes, those are all amazing. So he
Speaker 1: just told me this. I think it was this morning
Speaker 1: or yesterday morning. He actually the first time he actually
Speaker 1: started talking to me about his wife. She also hears
Speaker 1: her name being called when no one's there. A lot
Speaker 1: of name calling going on in that house, which also
Speaker 1: makes me think there's you know, they have some activity
Speaker 1: going on there house. She also though, which is interesting
Speaker 1: because no one else has said this and the family,
Speaker 1: is that she feels the sensation that someone walks around
Speaker 1: or past her when she's alone. So she actually gets
Speaker 1: that physical kind of that whoosh.
Speaker 2: The creepy feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah, so she gets that, right.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 1: It's just rude, right, and that's in it, and to me,
Speaker 1: it's a little nerving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's definitely boundary violation. And the fact
Speaker 2: that it only happens when she's alone tells me that
Speaker 2: it's very purposeful, like they're trying to freak her out. Right.
Speaker 2: That's rude and that's not okay. So, I mean, you
Speaker 2: haven't asked, but it's clear that this is a haunted space.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yes, no, I haven't hasn't been that yet,
Speaker 1: but it's I think it's they got activity for sure
Speaker 1: in that house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I have activity in this, but
Speaker 2: it's not a haunted space.
Speaker 1: Right now, you're like a lighthouse and they all find
Speaker 1: your ass.
Speaker 2: But they have haunted it's haunted and they need they
Speaker 2: need to cleanse. Yeah right, yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 2: know if he has those coins that were given to him,
Speaker 2: but seeing they came from a spirit, I would think
Speaker 2: that those are something I would put around the boundary
Speaker 2: of my house and ask the spirit who thanked him
Speaker 2: for cleaning up his house for his family. Hey, right,
Speaker 2: can you serve as you know you can? Can you
Speaker 2: return the favor and to help take care of my family?
Speaker 2: And when I do this clearing, can you make sure
Speaker 2: they get out?
Speaker 1: I think that is a That is a great because
Speaker 1: you always said put them to work, put them to work, right,
Speaker 1: put them to work. So I think that's fantastic. Okay, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you have gotten the greatest advice from the greatest witchy
Speaker 1: poo and tanning from LV and you know, let us
Speaker 1: know if this let me know obviously if this helps, right,
Speaker 1: If you don't have the coins, we'll find something else.
Speaker 1: And I can certainly that is This is definitely a
Speaker 1: bus specialty. Uh Is Claire in a space? Baby Claire
Speaker 1: in a space? Yes, but they seem busy over there
Speaker 1: is kind of what it feels like. But I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they all sense it and they're hearing
Speaker 1: names being called. You know, there's a lot of similarity smells.
Speaker 1: Although the whole broad Brat brought broad thing happened when
Speaker 1: he was at work, so I thought that was kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. Yeah, that's the only thing I've heard outside
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Well, and again, when spirit's attached, they can follow you anywhere, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they might really like them. Well he sounds enchanting.
Speaker 1: He does. If you're very popular in the spirit world.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that, but you're famous,
Speaker 1: but I feel like cleaning up that famous.
Speaker 2: And the spirit on the spirit TikTok and on.
Speaker 1: The spirit on the ghost TikTok. You're famous, man, but
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: You know, cleaning up the house is the priority, and
Speaker 2: then establishing at least start working with your protector. You've
Speaker 2: got the prayer protection, so obviously you're working that. That's
Speaker 2: really important. Hopefully everybody in the house is working that
Speaker 2: and then see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. That's great advice. All right, Okay, love,
Speaker 1: that's a rap, that's a that's a ghost block wrap.
Speaker 1: So this ended up being at the haunted house. But
Speaker 1: what else we find our way through these stories? So
Speaker 1: everybody please share these stories with us, even if they're
Speaker 1: incremental pieces, things that go on over a course of time,
Speaker 1: and you know we are happy to uh to talk
Speaker 1: about all of it obviously, So and your simple journals
Speaker 1: and start your journals.
Speaker 2: Love that of your messages of the even the smallest
Speaker 2: thing is kind of fun and it's very affirming.
Speaker 1: So totally well for in some cases it can really
Speaker 1: save you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really for real. So Jeff, thank you, thank you
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