1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is a room full of bozos. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of The Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Enzas. I'm in the room. It's 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: just filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: What is up, boys? It's draft night? Hey Dan? Oh yeah, 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, guess what tonight? April two, eighteen. The future 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: of the Jets and the Browns may have changed forever, 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and so too the fate and future of this very podcast. Mark, 9 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: It's very possible we might not be the doormats anymore 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: if we just get a little help from these young 11 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Baker Mayfield at number one and my boys scamper 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Sam Donald number three over role. Yeah, I mean, I 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: think it's two teams that it's fair for both fan 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: bases to feel a little snake bitten when it comes 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: to picking quarterbacks. Both the Jets and Browns have tried. 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you just stop trying. You have 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: to keep keep going for that position. Otherwise you're you're 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna deal with the cast off. R G three's the 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Josh mccowns from now until the end of time. And 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: so I am really, I really could not care less 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: And we'll get into it what anyone thinks about these 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: quarterback picks tonight. I could not give any less of 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: an s about what anyone thinks this evening about it. 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it plays out. We seem 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: annoyed by a lot of what people think. Um, I 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: find our newsroom in an appalling place to witness NFL 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: events in general. But um, that's probably a large part 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: of it. I think if I had been somewhere in 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: a different setting, my my mood would be different. It's amazing, 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: like after five years, we know that after a year 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: or two, it was clear that nothing stuck to Mark's crawl, 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: like some random people coming up to the news room 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: and asking him questions about the Browns. And it happens 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: like every time we're in the news room. What well 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: my take on this? Because I was in great spirits 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: once the pick came in with Donald, who I really 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: didn't think the Jets had a chance at and the 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: fact that he fell to three. I'm very optimistic and 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm really hopeful about the future of the franchise. Who 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: knows if he actually can play, but today and that's 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: why I love especially if you're a fan of a 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: down trodden organization like myself. Um light like Mark. That's 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: why me personally, I'm on the other end where you are, Mark, 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Whereas like I don't know if this guy Donald can 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: actually play. I don't know, maybe and he might actually 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: end up being another USC quarterback that's a middling guy 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: or worse. But in this moment, right now, I'm just 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna soak in the possibility and the optimism around it. 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: And Greg, You've been to a bunch of drafts. I've 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: been to drafts. We've all been to drafts. The best 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: part about the draft then not so much. It's not 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: a great coverage event. And that's why we don't go, 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and that's why we're in Culver City, Uh, is that 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like access and it's it's 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: a different type of beast. But one thing it is, 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: it's really it's such an optimistic, happy event. So that's 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. I'm really happy that the 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Jets got Donald. I'm really excited about the future in 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: a way that I haven't been in a long time. 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: And I'm leading into today, I was terrified. I couldn't 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: even I couldn't sit still in my house. I cleaned 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: out my my whole closet. I watched, luckily the Yankees run, 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: so I had a chance to watch them. I got 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: on the peloton and rode the bike, and I was 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: just like trying not to think about it because this 66 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: was such a big draft for both of our team's marks, 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: but also a bunch of other teams that need a 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and a fresh start, and we're gonna get to 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: all that today, and that they did in such a 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: fun way. I mean, I love seeing your guys energy 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: coming into the draft and excitement. It energizes me, uh 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: to some degree, because like you know, by yesterday, I 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: could know the Sessler kind of flow rising, you know, 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: because you spent hours on a Sessler mock draft. That's 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: only happening if the Browns are at the top of 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the draft, maybe taking the player he's excited about. By later, 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: by late at night, he's sending out texts Browns and 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Jets rise and Patriots imploding, New a f C donning 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: backyards burning sweet, and nobody responded to the text. So 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I thought that hit like a dead weight in water, 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what I need to get a 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: rise out of out of this. I was a little 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: under the weather. I was honestly asleep before you even 84 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: sent that. But I couldn't. I couldn't help but notice 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: the difference in the tenor between that and the Mark 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: that I saw before the draft that you know at 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: four o'clock today. Well, we can get into it, but 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I there no. I you know, you're like the person 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: that's been in a really abusive relationship. You've been so 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: much happened, this has been so many of these nights, right, 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: It's just like but but at the same time, we 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: all know you Mark, we know there's something going on 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: behind that that wall, and it's probably excitement, I think. 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what they don't know. I don't what 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: the order of the show is. But we can get 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: into Mayfield whenever you would like. How about well it's 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: I here's the thing. I will say what happened, and 98 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: it was, it is, it is touched. It is a 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Twitter type thing. The minute they pick him. I liked 100 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: the pick. I told you on the show last week. 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want Sam Donald. I did my it was 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: not enough as much homework as as Carbs and some 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: of these other guys. But I watched all these guys, 104 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: and I came away really loving kind of the energy 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield. I loved Rosen too, but they got Mayfield. 106 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: I thought that was a twist in turn that no 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: one saw coming two days ago. But I do think 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: that there were a lot of people in that building 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: that did their homework, that came away feeling he was 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: their guy, and right away on Twitter. And this is 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: an issue with Browns fans in general. It's immediate from 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: half of them or a segment of them, immediate negativity, 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, can you let it breathe for five 114 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: minutes before we start killing the organization for an offseason 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: worths of homework. We have no idea have we learned 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: anything at this point whether you're a fan or you 117 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: cover the game or both that you you do not 118 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: know on April twenty whatever, how this is going to 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: shake out. We've been wrong so many times with people 120 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: that are doubting the Browns. It's obvious why they do it. 121 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: It's based on track record always picking the wrong guy. 122 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean and that's as a jetsman, I'm 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: saying the same thing. That doesn't mean they didn't get it. Right. 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: That's that's why this is such a It's a fresh start. 125 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: And I don't think just because you've made mistakes in 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: the past and anything in life that you stopped trying 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: they have. The scared thing to do would have been 128 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: to not pick a quarterback at all, because you want 129 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: to continue to be one of these teams that doesn't 130 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: have one. You tried for it, let's see how it 131 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: works out before we kill it. You weren't in the 132 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: Brown's war room, so you can't give a definitive answer 133 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: on this. But I got the suspicion that Scott McLuhan, 134 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: who has a very good track record record and is 135 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: very opinionated, his fingerprints are are all over those first 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: two picks that the Browns made. Well, here's the thing. 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: When they showed the war room when they were all 138 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: hovered around, it was not hovered around John Dorsey and 139 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. It was John Dorsey and Scott McCluin. And 140 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Scott mcclewin has been a Baker Mayfield guy from the beginning. 141 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: And I think that for the people in that building 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: that wanted Donald and there were those people that mcclwin's 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: voice and whoever else felt the same way one out. 144 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't think this was unanimous, so you gotta that. 145 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out. So this is how 146 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand and eighteen NFL draft. We'll get to 147 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: actually how it actually really started, uh with Roger Goodell 148 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: taking the stage. We'll get to that. But this is 149 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: how the first pick sounded. Uh. Potential history. It is 150 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: history one way or the other for the Cleveland Browns. Baker, 151 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Mr Dorsey, how are you hey? Let me ask you 152 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: a question. You won't be the first pick in the draft. Well, 153 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: buddy boy, I want you to get excited. Where do 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: you live? Pick? In the two thousand and eighteen NFL draft, 155 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns select Baker Mayfield. It is Baker Mayfield. 156 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: It's so funny because Greg, the whole process of the 157 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: pre draft and the endless speculation, Mayfield never was connected 158 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: to the first pig, and then out of nowhere he 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: shows up in about forty eight hours before nothing until 160 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: this week. Nothing, It was all Donald and Josh Allen. 161 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: And it just goes to show not only that no 162 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: one knows anything, but the NFL has changing a little. 163 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: And this was a gutsy pick. And I think the 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: fact that it's the Browns and just all the attention 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: of Mayfield, he's such a famous guy, kind of overshadows 166 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: what an unlikely pick he is because he's an undrafted, 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: a walk on player who became a Heisman Trophy winner, 168 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: who's under six one, who's coming from a spread offense. 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Those are all sorts of things that the NFL sort 170 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: of didn't have an open mind about as recently as 171 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago. And I think, 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: along with the Lamar Jackson pick at the end of 173 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: the round, it's maybe thinking about what's the NFL turning 174 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: into and that Baker Mayfield fits in that. It was 175 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: so interesting that especially, and we talked about like Bake 176 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: and everybody Baker Mayfield, Johnny manziel I thought, I give 177 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the Browns credit that and it might be the mcgluin effect, 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: like it was very easy to turn away from Mayfield 179 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: because we already went down this road where we went 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: for the flashy guy, the Heisman Trophy winner, the guy 181 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: that moves the needle, that has some ups and some downs, 182 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: some off the field issues. It would have been very 183 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: easy just to cross them off the list. And I 184 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: thought at the beginning of this process, there would be 185 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: no way the Browns would take um Mayfield for that 186 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: very reason. But I think they cided one thing about 187 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: the Browns. You gotta give them the fact that they 188 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: are not afraid to make a splash and take chances. 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: And they're doing it again here because it could. I mean, 190 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: there's a chance West that it doesn't work out, but 191 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: there is the very real chance that it does and 192 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: then everything changes for that organization. It does. And I 193 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: think if you're among the group that has Sashi Brown 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: already like nominated for st Hood, it has to be 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: a very veccine pick because you kind of are. It's 196 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: a letdown. Where's your angst? Where's your rage? You can't 197 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: rage against Josh Allen because you took the analytics Darley 198 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: number one overall and Baker Mayfield. So there's gotta be 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of if you're one of those guys 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: who's just always analytics, you can't get mad at the brand. 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: That's very well said because it says that someone whether 202 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: it's John Dorset who ever, did did listen to the 203 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: analytical argument here the a i Q score, he was 204 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: off the charts on that. Baker Mayfield in terms of 205 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: his his accuracy and the way he graded out from 206 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,359 Speaker 1: PFF in multiple categories, was the number one analytics quarterback 207 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: in this draft, and and and outside of Donald there 208 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: was no one else really even close. So you can't 209 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: just say that John Dorsey's this big, meathead football guy 210 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: that just falls for body type, because that's not what 211 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: happened here. When when it finally came down to the pick. No, 212 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I think he takes a lot into a out and 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: it's his pick. I mean, as much as mcgleuwin has influence, 214 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Scott mcglewen knew the pick either. Until 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: very recently. It's Dorsey getting all these opinions and making 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: the pick, and I do who know, There's no way 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: to know, but I have to imagine that they believe 218 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had the right character and the right attitude 219 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to take on this challenge. That they liked that. I mean, 220 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Dorsey is kind of a in your face guy. Baker 221 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: like they liked his bravado. I think that was a 222 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: like whatever character or anything you want to talk about, 223 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that was a plus. Mean, anyone who's ever 224 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: played sports teste to like his Bravado, Right right, Well, 225 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: did you so Dorsey had this quote yesterday and it 226 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: may apply to Mayfield or anyone that had these you know, 227 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: hovering character concerns. He told Josina Anders from ESPN. He said, 228 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: if you have certain blemishes on your track record, I 229 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: want to meet with you face to face. I want 230 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: to see what lies within your soul, and I'll find 231 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: out within fifteen minutes if you have a soul or not. 232 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: That is an insane quote, and I kind of like 233 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: it before we move it is he's now kind of 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: turned into a guy that we expected to go high 235 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: in the draft, but it's still kind of a it's 236 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: a it's a surprising pick to some people like Mike 237 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Mctonaviman his top twenty twenty players, Uh Josh and Morris 238 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: who had on the show, didn't Nevimen his top twenty players. 239 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: So people saw these quarterbacks all so differently. I mean 240 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: some people had rosen one and the other guys were 241 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: buried not even in the top twenty, and then vice 242 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: versa with Mayfields, like every team saw them so differently. 243 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do here. We just talked about Mayfield 244 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: and if you're a listener to the podcast, you know 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: that as the we walked up to the draft, we 246 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: we went a deep dive on five of the top 247 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this class. All five of those guys were 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: actually drafted in the first round. And uh, we'll go 249 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: through the Giants and all the other picks in between. 250 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: But after the Giants takes se Kwon Barkley number two, 251 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: the Jets then uh take Sam Donald, and um, this 252 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: one feels like it's been a year in the making, 253 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and it was quite like a roller coaster because a 254 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: year ago, when the Jets were being talked out as 255 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: the potential Owen sixteen team, Uh, that's when the suck 256 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: for Sam, or as I coined it, the scam for 257 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: Sam started, and just this belief, if anything, if nothing else, 258 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: eat this one in fifteen, two and fourteen, and then 259 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: get this guy who at the time last year was 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: the number one prospect. And then things happened. The Jets 261 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: ended up winning five games, and you thought they were 262 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: out and they traded into the top three, but you 263 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: still thought they that Donald wasn't in the mix. And 264 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: then on top of it, the Jets didn't even think 265 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: Donald was in the mix because they didn't even schedule 266 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: a private visit with him until right at the deadline, 267 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: and then things started to change. So there he is 268 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: sitting at number three, and I I applaud the pick 269 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: by the Jets because I know they're hot on Rosen. 270 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: I know they liked Mayfield, but Donald is to me, 271 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: the safest bet is everything we're hearing, and I don't 272 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: get too worked up about the turnovers last season. I 273 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: think that he has enough quality tangibles that make intangibles 274 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: that make you really excited that they have a long 275 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: term guy. West. Did you like this pick? I did. 276 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: And all you Dan Hansis have asked out of your 277 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: team for the past twelve months is to deliver Sam 278 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Donald and give you away off the hamster wheel that 279 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: is the irrelevance of a bad football team in the NFL. 280 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: All you wanted was something to give you hope for 281 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: the future, because there is no hope in the president. 282 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: So I think mission accomplished with Sam Donald, who many 283 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: people viewed as the top quarterback in the draft. He 284 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: is somebody to build around, which they haven't had at 285 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. They failed with Mark Sanchez drafted number 286 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: six and two thousand nine and ever since Sanchez, it's 287 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: been just one middling veteran after another, one band aid 288 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: after another, and it got very frustrating as a Jet fan. 289 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: So the idea that maybe now it actually worked out 290 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: the timing, maybe the fact that they liked Mayfield, but 291 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: the Browns liked Mayfield and had the opportunity to get 292 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: him ahead, that actually works out and the Jets end 293 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: up getting the guy they wanted all along. Something could 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: go right for if you if you look, if this 295 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: works out for them and they do a Jets of 296 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: football life at some point, the way that this draft 297 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: played in of their favor is part of the story. 298 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: It is now outside of Chad Pennington and a a 299 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: one semi intriguing season with Brett Farve, this is a 300 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: stunning point of departure for a Jets fan base that 301 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: has no had no quarterback like this to really rally around. 302 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: This is a Scouts favorite, and they talk about him 303 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: being the safest floor and potentially the highest ceiling you 304 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: have to see. I think the fumbles would concern me 305 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot more than the interceptions, based on the way 306 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: they look at his tape in a usc did not 307 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: have good wide receivers last year either. But I think 308 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: if you're a Jets fan, you have to feel like 309 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: from a certain point of view, they potentially walked right 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: into the best quarterback in the draft. I think it 311 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: goes down to fit, and it's a good fit for 312 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the Jets, the highest rated quarterback Daniel Jeremiah has graded 313 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: in the last three draft classes. Love it and there's 314 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: no complaining about the moving up to three. Now. What 315 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: you didn't realize on what you couldn't have known at 316 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: the time was giving up the six and the three 317 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: second rounders that kept you in the mix for Donald, 318 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: which they I don't think he would have lasted until six. 319 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Who knows, but probably not. No that it all What 320 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: a night for Mike mccagnan, who is very much on 321 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: the hot seat if they had a terrible year or 322 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: if he picks a quarterback that struggles and the trade 323 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: which had a gamble to it, because you really didn't 324 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: know exactly. I'm sure they love three quarterbacks or they 325 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: they were comfortable with whatever they got. But to get 326 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Donald is incredible and I do think it matters that 327 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: he's the third youngest quarterback drafted in the first round 328 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: since nineteen He's twenty years old right now and Mayfield 329 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: twenty three. Doesn't mean that he's a better prospect, but 330 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: I think that's something to consider. I mean, he is 331 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: significantly younger, and you gotta keep that in mind if 332 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: he ends up getting thrown out there this year. But 333 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I do think that gives him a little more room 334 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: to grow and to keep getting That's an upside, there's 335 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, if you you can wait two 336 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: years to play, and I don't think they will. I 337 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: think they'll probably more likely wait two months. But he's 338 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: he would only he'd be twenty two at that point. 339 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got that extra time to where you 340 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: don't think, like Burn Baker Mayfield, you wait two years 341 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor Baker Mayfield's twenty five. That's an issue 342 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: that's a tenant of analytics in every sport that it's 343 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: always better to get the younger player because you're facing 344 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: older competition. If you can do it at a younger age, 345 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: plus you have that upside to grow. I think that's 346 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: that's something that scouts and analytics agree on, don't you 347 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: think like his and d Darren Danagi mar Daniel Jeremiah 348 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: made this point. I think there's something to it, just 349 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: that Donald's kind of the the flat line, unflappable guy 350 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: in the draft that doesn't get too high, doesn't get 351 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: too low. That that's I think that's a good that's 352 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: a good way to be in New York. Yeah, he 353 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: seems to have the right temperament for sure. And I 354 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: had really gotten excited about Mayfield. He's the most exciting 355 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: quarterback I think in this draft class. And then Rosen 356 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: West You've played into it because you're such a big 357 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: fan of him and everything I've read and heard about him. 358 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: I would have been okay with Rosen McDonald's the guy 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: that from day one was the guy that I I 360 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: really wanted. So the fact that they actually got to pick, 361 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: it's a very good day. Look, got a lot of 362 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: texts obviously mentioned how you feeling. You're happy? I am thrilled. 363 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Isorite jets days in a long time and you don't 364 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: have the tank enough of this tanking business. Go do 365 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: handle your season the best you can and you and 366 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: if you do that, you come out with the right guy. 367 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: You started, you know, tweeting scamp for Sam. I think 368 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: it was still two seasons about this happened in the 369 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: end it took. It was kind of a wayward, crazy 370 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: path to get there. They needed to because of the 371 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: three game winning streak, which was horrible in September. They 372 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: needed to trade away three second or picks. That was 373 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: the cost of that winning streak. But if Sam Donald 374 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: is the real deal, it was a great trade and 375 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: a great day in Jets history. The next quarterback off 376 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: the board was number seven overall. That was the Tampa 377 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers spot. But they traded to the Buffalo Bills. 378 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: And the Bills what do they do with Josh Rosen 379 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: on the board? They say, no, give us the other Josh, 380 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and uh Mark. This was a interesting day 381 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen that they started with. And this is 382 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: like the new thing. I don't care if you're in sports, entertainment, politics, whatever, 383 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: uh make sure if you're young enough that you had 384 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Twitter when you were an idiot fifteen year old, you 385 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: gotta wipe that. Scrub scrub it, just on the off 386 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: chance you become a public if you work at NFL media, 387 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: scrub it. I would suggest it to some of them 388 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: as well. Right, but even at least you're grown men 389 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: and women. Uh here, sure, if you we didn't know this. 390 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: We're old men, but these kids, they're getting killed. Josh 391 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Allen some moronic tweets and were you and you got 392 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You just got me thinking, Mark, we should 393 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: we should go back there. I mean I had I 394 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: had stuff. I tweeted like three not this is a 395 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: different these tweets everybody got on in two thousand nine. 396 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: This this came obviously at the worst time for Josh Allen, 397 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and it put him into I don't know, for lack 398 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: of better words, like damage control to a high degree. 399 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: That began and Smith, can you think of anything worse? 400 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I think if you're Josh Allen, yeah, 401 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: a little bit of a red fla that his first thought, 402 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: Hey let's call stephen A Smith, because Stephen A came 403 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: on later in the day and was like, Josh called 404 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: me back again, just say hey, there's a problem, Let's 405 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: call Steve. You don't call stephen a because then the 406 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: top headline on draft day, before your draft the most 407 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: important day of your life, is uh that Josh Allen 408 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: calls in a panic after tweet surface you want to 409 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: say that I thought you said that. I thought you 410 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: were gonna say Greg The big red flag was his 411 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: walk up song was bon Jovies wanted Dead or Alive? 412 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: Thought that was what you're gonna say, that's like the 413 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: deadliest catch theme song. It is, right, yeah, um but anyway, 414 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: so it just feels very Bills right that Josh Allen 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: ended up there. I mean, this is he already was 416 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: the most polarizing quarterback in this group in my opinion, 417 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: because you had people, you know, scouts that I think 418 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: are like sweating over them when they watched him because 419 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: of the physical build and what he offered, saying absolutely, 420 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I honestly think that it's a scouts dream on depending 421 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: on who yours a out. Josh Allen, if he worked out, 422 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: is everything you'd ever want in a quarterback. And if 423 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: he if Josh Allen goes in the other direction the 424 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: way that's so many fear, then it's a Bill's draft 425 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: pick where you're thinking, there were two Josh quarterbacks in 426 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: this draft, and you took the one that is highly 427 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: implode potential, and you went Josh Allen. And who knows, 428 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we we don't know how it's gonna work out, 429 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: but this is not a guy that, from by all accounts, 430 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: is going to walk in week one and start. And 431 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this is the team that potentially could have used a 432 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: week one starter. Jay McCarron is the guy that's probably 433 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna be starting their season. I have a contact that 434 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: you guys know. I won't say his name, but he 435 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: works with us. He's a huge Bills fan, legit, and 436 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: uh I checked in with him because his alma mater 437 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: um was my quarterback came from his school. So it's like, 438 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: how you doing, And we had talked about the draft 439 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: leading up to it. H. So this is what came 440 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: up on our instant messaging client me So Ellipses, Jesus Christ, 441 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: I want to throw myself off this balcony. This is 442 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: this is him speaking the second part of that or 443 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: the whole entire statement there. That's what he said, and uh, 444 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: he was very upset. And I wonder I haven't really 445 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: dug into fan reaction where Bills fans are on this, 446 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: because you had a chance to get a much safer 447 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: prospect and Rosen, but you chose the upshot guy, maybe 448 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: because he could throw it in Western New York West, 449 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: because he's got a howitzer. It's a physical specimen. You 450 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: could not draw up a more perfect quarterback for Buffalo 451 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: than Josh Allen purely from physical tools standpoint, He's perfect 452 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: for that franchise. And I don't know, maybe waiting to 453 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: see how he does in NFL game. No, we have 454 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: to make a right We could just decide we know 455 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: everything about football and we can tell how not having 456 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: wide receivers will affect a guy's pro career, or you know, 457 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: playing a little bit injured will affect how he's going 458 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: to do the rest of his career. I don't know. 459 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: I just think, don't write them all. No, it's interesting 460 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: they they had a certain type they wanted because I 461 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: don't think you can look at the pick in a 462 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: total vacuum. They decided to trade out of their number 463 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: ten pick last year, passing on Patrick Mahomes who got 464 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: taken there, and then Deshaun Watson who got taken two 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: picks later, basically to pick up draft capital, and now 466 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: they use a lot of their draft capital to move 467 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: up for both of their picks, but especially this one. 468 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: They gave up uh a pretty big price to move 469 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: up for Josh Allen and take them. And I pointed 470 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: that out on Twitter and a lot of Bills fins 471 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: well it's not fair. It's a different GM. You know. 472 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: It's like, well, first of all, that's your problem. You 473 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: fired your GM right after the draft. That's a sign 474 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: of a bad organization. Second of all, I don't think 475 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: Doug Whalley was making the picks last year. Two days 476 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: before you got fired. I assumed that's that's an organizational decision. 477 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: It's Sean McDermott. They're they're taking a chance on Josh Allen. 478 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: You gotta like what the Bills have done overall since 479 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's gotten there. But this is basically the one 480 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: pick that's gonna either make reply. Actually, when you didn't 481 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: say it's your problem, you said, this isn't it. This 482 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: isn't an MP, this is a y p Well, it's 483 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: a risky draft, but they also could have hit a 484 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: grand slam with these two picks. He could be He 485 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: could be better than Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson probably. 486 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: I think Edmonds the linebacker was DJ's number six overall player, 487 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: and DJ called him a potential perennial All Pro. He 488 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: seems like a physical freak, and it's exactly what that 489 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Bill's defense needed in the front seven. I'm intrigued by 490 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: what Brandon Bean has done and Alan a little bit 491 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like Blake Bortles coming out. I think who I was 492 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: excited about coming out is if nothing else, I think 493 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be fun to watch. For as much 494 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: as he's been dogged like he's a he's an interesting 495 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: player to watch. Like when you see what he can do, 496 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna be He's not someone I'm like, Oh, 497 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm annoyed that I'm gonna have to watch Josh Allen 498 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: this year, like good or bad. I think it'll be 499 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of fun. I wish Claybourne was here because then 500 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: we could have him on to do trash takes. Uh. 501 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: The trashiest take from Josh Alan was Lebron James sucks. 502 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Come on, guys, unbelievable. He's almost neck and neck with 503 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: m J. West. No he's not. It's not premier NBA 504 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: analysis from Josh Allen. The next quarterback off the board, 505 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you gotta go to pick ten. So we 506 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: end up with four qbs going off off on the 507 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: top ten and this is a This is my favorite 508 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: trade of the night. I love that the Cardinals remember 509 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: at the cob combine when Steve Wilkes is at the 510 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: UH standing at the podium, and I don't know one 511 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: of you guys to think it was with me, but 512 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: it just there seemed to be so much working against 513 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: Arizona in that moment in time. You didn't have the quarterback, 514 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have the coach anymore, the iconic coach, and 515 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to fill those shoes, and he didn't 516 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: have the same charisma. He had all these holes on 517 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: his roster, and he had Larry Fitzgerald coming back, but 518 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Larry didn't really have anybody to throw it to him. 519 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: They signed Sam Bradford, and anyone's like, okay, gave twenty 520 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: million dollars to Sam Bradford. But now you trade up 521 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: and you get Josh Rosen and Greg. First of all, 522 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: he's in the tribe. I know you're excited about that. 523 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: Second of all, you told me downstairs that you were 524 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: happy to go to the Jets because you didn't want 525 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: to have to even think entertain the idea of rooting 526 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: for my favorite team. So you must love the idea 527 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals in the future. Yeah, because I'm gonna 528 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: root route on Josh Rosen wherever he was even if 529 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: he was with the Jets, I would have rooted for him, 530 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: and that would have been annoying, not only because I 531 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: love his personality and the way he carries himself and 532 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the things he says, but because I love watching the 533 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: tape that I watched. To me, he seemed like the 534 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: one that you you saw him play college football and 535 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: you said that guy should be starting on Sundays. I 536 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: can see like all the traits that you look for 537 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: in terms of anticipation and accuracy and especially being able 538 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: to throw under pressure. And she was like, this is 539 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: the guy. This seems like the safest pick, and I 540 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: love him landing in Arizona. They have a lot to 541 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: work on, you know, around him. It's not like any 542 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: quarterback plane for that team I think, is you know 543 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: set up for you know, immediate success with their offensive line, 544 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: uh and their wide receiver group in general. But you 545 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: have David Johnson and you probably don't have to play 546 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: right away if you're Josh Rosen, at least not until, 547 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: like we do you trade traded well, I'll tell you 548 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: it's it's Draft Day has become an annual horror show 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: for Mike Glennon, who who potentially doesn't even make the 550 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: roster at this time, I forgot if not weep for 551 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: Mike Glenn. I mean I'm not, I am not weeping 552 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: for him, but I would just say it's been a 553 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: bad Like last year, he was at the draft party. 554 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I hope he wasn't at the Cardinals draft party this year. 555 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: Stay away from draft party. Because Rosen was the guy. 556 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he made eighteen million dollars the hard way 557 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: on some level. Let's just say, you don't have to 558 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: feel too bad for I've made a lot less money 559 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: in a lot harder way. Ros Rosen was the guy 560 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: everyone thought is maybe the most day one ready starter. 561 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: He's the one who actually comes into this situation if 562 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Bradford is healthy, which is a huge if, where he 563 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: won't need to really play. Um Josh Rosen, but who 564 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: we um new from reading that piece and ESPN the magazine. 565 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: We had on the writer and we all the studdy. 566 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy and he thought he should have 567 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: been off the board sooner. In fact, he made it 568 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: a mission statement the moment he got drafted to let 569 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: everyone know that he wasn't happy. Here's what he said 570 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: an NFL network after he got drafted. Yeah, I mean 571 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: I was pretty piste off. As I was sitting in 572 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: the green room, I was seeing teams go by and 573 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: fix some other quarterbacks that I think I'm very, very 574 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: clearly better then. M hmm. Nine mistakes made ahead of me, 575 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: and I am I will make sure over over the 576 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: next decade or so that they will, uh, they will 577 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: know that they made a mistake. I mean a little 578 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: at cliche, but it's funny. It's the Peyton it's the 579 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: page out of Peyton mannings book. You know what he 580 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: told Bill Pullian before the draft. But look at how 581 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: bleak the car was where a few months ago, losing 582 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: arians in Palmer and what's the future, and how can 583 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: you possibly get a quarterback? And now you get not 584 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: not only the consensus best passing the draft, but now 585 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: one who's exceedingly motivated and is burning, burning up. You 586 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: can tell how Pistie is. And that's that's ideal for 587 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You give up a third and a fifth 588 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: compared to what the Jets gave up. They didn't really 589 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: that was that what the Raiders. That's where they moved. 590 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Come on, John Gruden, I'm telling you, I'm telling you 591 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that that is that is a fleecing. That is a fleecing. 592 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: Know what else is a fleecing what John Gruden got 593 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: from Martavis Bryant today. So maybe even Stephen well, it's 594 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: not even Stephen. Josh Rosen is a much more valuable 595 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: commity than mackenzie. And you can question the Raiders first 596 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: round pick, and a lot of people did right away. 597 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: It was tackle Colton Miller, but they probably were going 598 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: to take him there at ten. So you get what 599 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: you can. You move back five spots, you get a 600 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: third round pick. It's not it's at the end the world. Yeah, 601 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: since we're here, Martevis Brian acquired by the Raiders from 602 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers in exchange for the seventy ninth overall pick. 603 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: I know Brian said off the field issues. I know 604 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: there's possibility that he's what you're saying, that's a steel 605 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. That's a total steal in the final 606 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: year of his contract. You're given up a third round 607 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: pick for one year of a guy you can't count on, 608 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: or he's an all pro. I don't know. I maybe 609 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: we obviously different opinion here. I mean all Brian has 610 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: an incredible upside if he was an All Pro. Wouldn't 611 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: he play over Juju smith Schuster as a rookie? We 612 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: know that he had a falling out and Judic smith 613 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Schuster is a player. Yeah, I'm just saying, like all 614 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: pro is a bit of it. I don't know, like 615 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: a guy who's that big of a risk and is 616 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: in the final year of his contract. That's not exactly 617 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: a steel the contract the contract. I agree. You call 618 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: them one of the top ten most talented wide receivers 619 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: in the game a couple of years ago, so it 620 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: is it's our Westling called him. Uh yeah, but since 621 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: then he's proven to be a horrendous teammate and unreliable. 622 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: It's a risk. I kind of like the John Good Raiders. 623 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: They're not going to be born like well, they also 624 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: may not be interesting. We will find out. I want 625 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: to say one thing about Josh Rosen that I feel 626 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: like from well, I they're on my radar because I'm 627 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: on the By the way they operate, I don't quite 628 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: get the plan. At this point, he keeps saying, I 629 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: inherited this team that's rough and tumbling as all these needs. 630 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing to improve it? Please lay out 631 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: your roadmap to me. I'll wait and see, but when 632 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: it comes to Josh Rosen, I feel, you know what 633 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: I'll feel. Here's the thing about Josh Rosen. I feel 634 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: like for weeks and weeks and weeks it has been 635 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: telecast everyone. This is this is this year's version potentially 636 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: of everyone passing on Aaron Rodgers. And it's so on 637 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: the nose that he's hanging out with Aaron Rodgers and 638 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: he's doing you know, specials with Aaron Rodgers and they're 639 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: sitting there on the grass discussing life, and he's got 640 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: that same chip on his shoulder. And here it's happened 641 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: that I think this is a quarterback we're gonna look 642 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: back on and say, I understand he wasn't a scouts 643 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: dream for various reasons, but there are we can get 644 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: excited about, saying Donald and picker Mayfield. Maybe they work out, 645 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: but I think all along, I think teams are gonna 646 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: have to look at themselves and say, why if we're 647 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: so new fangled and new thinking that we're picking Mayfield 648 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: at one and we're picking Lamar Jackson at thirty two, 649 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: how did this guy get down to number ten NFL? 650 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I I this is the guy I would be concerned 651 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: about if you were in the NFC West or if 652 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: you're a team that did not pick them. The thing 653 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: that was crazy to me, and I know we want 654 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: to move on is both Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock 655 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: were adamant this is the best pure passer in this draft, 656 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what is the quarterback's job? How 657 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: is that not your You know, neither one of them 658 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: at ranked as their top To win from the pocket 659 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: is what John Elways said a week ago. What I've 660 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: learned over the years, the number one job of the 661 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL is to win from the pocket. 662 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: Steve Young, the most effective rushing quarterback dual threat quarterback 663 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: in history, has said the exact same thing. The job 664 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: of an NFL quarterback is to win from the park. 665 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: And yet John Elway passed on Josh Rose. Well, there's 666 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: this other side of Josh Rosen that all these guys 667 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: like him that way, but they all buried him in 668 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: their ratings and their rankings, and it comes down to 669 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: this does he love football enough? Thing? And you know what, 670 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: if you pay okay durability, but let's see, let's see 671 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: for ten or twelve years, and he plays at a 672 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: high level. He likes football enough. Well, I mean, I 673 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: just we don't know him personally, so we'll see. And 674 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: David Show, who played against him and who was I 675 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: believe on the same staff with Andrew Luck, said he's 676 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: the best pure pastor since Andrew Luck, Like it was 677 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: not just this year. But that's a guy who had 678 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: to watch his tape for three straight years. But does 679 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: he love the game? Does that? Mike Silver of um 680 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: and the final quarterback taken in the first round, Yes, 681 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: as Mark alluded to number thirty two, the Ravens trade 682 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: up with the Eagles. Who Jeremiah Who Jeremia did a 683 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: nice job today on Network and he knows his stuff. 684 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: Obviously they should give him a podcast. I feel like 685 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: that would be a good platform for him. Yeah, I 686 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: don't know if he would thrive or not or if 687 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: it would work. Maybe team them up with somebody I 688 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: like Bucky, He's good. I mean, start a podcast. It 689 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: would start as a middling show for four or five years, 690 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: and then maybe elevate as the audience you get you 691 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: get built and the ceiling is middling with a move 692 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: the sticks just naming it because I know that's the 693 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Twitter handily uses low floor, low ceiling. Yes, but very 694 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: good job tonight on the telecast in Pride Time, I'm 695 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: Fox good job anyway, Number thirty two. Dan's been cheering 696 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: down in the new voices, getting a little husky. I'm 697 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: a little under the weather. I'm fighting through a little 698 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: c cannot stop me. On this glorious day in Jets history, 699 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens select Lamar Jackson and the narrative was cooking 700 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: two and twelve degrees fahrenheit immediately that it was Ozzie 701 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Newsome's goodbye gift to the Ravens. All Right, everybody calmed 702 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: down about that, but very nice move, I think for 703 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and everybody was excited about it, and everybody's 704 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: excited about Lamar Jackson's potential. Uh, Steve, I wanted to 705 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: play this because I quite enjoyed this, who also did 706 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: a very nice job sitting outside a T and T 707 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: stadium immediately did some and remember Steve Smith, as a 708 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: former raven who played with Joe Flacco, had this to 709 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: say about how he believes the arrival of Lamar Jackson 710 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: will affect the Ravens quarterback room. There's gonna be not 711 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: just some thick competition. You got r G three. You're out, buddy, 712 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: you got Lamar Jackson and Joe whose looks like he 713 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: might be just like us. Five more minutes until we're 714 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: out of here. I loves he's not like any of 715 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: these other talking heads out there. You know, it was 716 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: amazing it is They had him on the set with 717 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman and Mary and seeing Troy Aikman's face as 718 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: could not wrap his head around I like this. It 719 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: was just like, wait, Joe Buck doesn't talk like this, 720 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? Why is this man being He did 721 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: a really good job, but he was clearly not gonna 722 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: like slamming other NFL cosends a total pro, but he's 723 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: very establishment. And Steve Smith works for the epitome of 724 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: the establishment, our company, but he doesn't talk like a 725 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: guy that works for the establishment. That's why I like 726 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: Steve Smith is an analyst, He's great. I am in 727 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: love with what oz Ozzy k Newsom has done this offseason, 728 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: if not only for the congruency, his plan has come together, 729 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: the off season plan and the Draft Night plan. The 730 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: off season plan three new wide receivers totally upgraded that 731 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: room he knew he needed a first round tight end. 732 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: He's got some weapons for the passing game, and now 733 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: you get Lamar Jackson. As you're in insurance policy for 734 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and the offensive coordinator who called the plays 735 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: and Michael Vick's career year two thousand ten is the 736 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator now for Lamar Jackson. I think Ozzy Knewsom 737 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: has had a really interesting offseason and and I think 738 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: his plans have all come together. Yeah and two. And 739 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: to Steve Smith's point, I don't know if insurance policy. 740 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that tag will last that long 741 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Obviously he's gonna need a little time 742 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: to acclimate. But at the same time, like when you're 743 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and you spent last season kind of lumbering 744 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: around with a bum back, and you've got this electrifying, 745 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: like five star athlete behind you, I mean, yeah, you 746 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: can out your nice one and three start in Baltimore. 747 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is not gonna be not gonna take too 748 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: long for them to put him on the field. It's crazy. 749 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to think, like what starting quarterback and 750 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: backup quarterback could possibly be any different than these two, 751 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: and then I remembered, oh wait, Tom Savage was replaced 752 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: by Deshaun Watson in Week one last year. You can 753 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: make that transition pretty quickly if you want to. It 754 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: must be like George Mike and watching Will Chamberlain and 755 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Bill Russell come into the league. It really, it really, 756 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: it's amazing because it's the thirty second pick, but he 757 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: it's as fascinating and as exciting as any pick that 758 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: was made. The number one pick, right because look, he 759 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: he beat out he lost to Baker Mayfield in the 760 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy this year. He was third. He beat out 761 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson for the Heisman Trophy two years ago. And 762 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: just watched him and I don't know if he's gotta 763 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: translate or not, but he's he's the best. Like Troy 764 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: Hickman put it, well, he's like, I haven't seen any 765 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: player enter the league like that, making moves like that 766 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: since Barry Sanders, Like that's the type of running talent 767 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: that he has. And so if you can combine that 768 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: and create the right offense around him, like and it's 769 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: not just there was some I was watching in one 770 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: of his games earlier and there's a play where he 771 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: there's total chaos happening. He's in the pocket, he goes out, 772 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: he comes back into the pocket, completely sets his feet, 773 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: and throws a bomb like fifty six yards down field, 774 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: right on the money. It's not just chaos happening with 775 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: this guy. He has pocket presents. I think they were 776 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of saying, this guy's game is going to grow 777 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: very quickly because of how quickly he grew in college. 778 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: And the Ravens are gonna win like three super Bowls 779 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna drive off ten. By the way, this 780 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: is the first first round in NFL draft history that 781 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: was book ended by Heisman Trophy winners. I don't know 782 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: that actually just made it up, but it's probably true. 783 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: And the first first draft since five quarterbacks in the 784 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: first round. I like that nugget. I liked mine a 785 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: little bit more that I mean. I'm just I we 786 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: led with yours. I came in with a second. Yours 787 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: is the robin to his batman, and I don't like that. 788 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: On another note, Greg, I know you were busy cranking 789 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: away on your winners and losers of Night one during 790 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: this draft, but I know it hurt that your patriots, 791 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: who are Brian Hoyer as next man up passed twice 792 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson in the twenties. Yeah, that's what I wanted, 793 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson, especially when it got to the thirty 794 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: one pick. I just would have been so much fun 795 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: to look forward to a future with Lamar. Do you 796 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: think they decided no, not for us, because why not 797 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: a thirty one? The value there. I think Dan's with 798 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: me on this one. I was much more disappointed that 799 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars passed on Lamar jacks Yeah, that would have 800 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: been very intriguing fit. And I guarantee you that would 801 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: have put the fear of God into the rest of 802 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: the well West. But how about, by the way, the Bengals. 803 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: This is a team that just handed Lamar Jackson to 804 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, and you have had an identifiable issue 805 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: at quarterback. But as i this podcast, this room is 806 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: on fire belt, Lamar Jackson, Spice racks on fire belt 807 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. A lot of people like Lamar Jackson, but 808 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: there's a there's a reason, potentially he didn't go in 809 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: the top five, and there could be nefarious like negative 810 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: unfair reasons, or maybe they see qualities in his game 811 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: that aren't up to snuff, And that's the fun part. 812 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to see the players a little bit 813 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: more of a projection, kind of like Josh Allen, who 814 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: you know was taken much earlier, but he's a little 815 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: bit more of a projection. I think the Patriots probably 816 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: had him at some point on their board. They would 817 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: have taken him, but they loved Sony Michelle, like who 818 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: is who we can get to? But I bet they 819 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: just thought he was a difference making talent that mattered more, 820 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: and so they took him. And I wonder if Dave Gettleman, 821 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: speaking of teams that maybe would have been interested in 822 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, was getting excited because picking second pick of 823 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: the second round tomorrow the chance of getting Sae Kwon 824 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: Barkley and we could now train position into the rest 825 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: of the top ten. The Giants picked, say Kwan Barkley 826 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: number two overall, uh maybe, and they leave the quarterback 827 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: UH position unsettled. Not gonna get obviously Lamar Jackson tomorrow. 828 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: But Barkley was the guy that we heard forever and ever. 829 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought that the Giants were trade 830 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: out West, but at the end of the day they 831 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: went with the guy that they think is a potential 832 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: All Pro year after year. I can't kill him for it, right. Yeah. 833 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Greg had a smart tweet the other day that the 834 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: the Giants entire off season feels like an apology for 835 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: benching Eli uh in order to like the Mark Sanchez 836 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: contract that Tannin Bomb gave him after Peyton Manning. But 837 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: their entire off season is also another thing. It's very 838 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: telling that they think Macadoo was a terrible coach, and 839 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: that Eli Manning is salvageable, that this team can contend 840 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: with see Kwon Barkley, and that they don't need another 841 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: quarterback because the problem wasn't Eli, it was Macadoo. I 842 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: think they're right about the Macadoo park. But I still 843 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: think and Eli's got every chance to succeed. Now, I 844 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: mean that that group around him is awesome. Yeah, I 845 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: mean if the offensive you can make the argument. I 846 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: guess that even if there if they go six and 847 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: ten this year and they're annoyed because Sam Donald's looking 848 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: great for the Jets, they have a great looking offense 849 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: for the next quarterback. They if they but I just 850 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: think you're in that killer schedule quarterback. They have a 851 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: killer schedule. If Eli bombs with that schedule, who knows 852 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: how schedules work out. But if the Giants go five 853 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: and eleven, they'll still have all these studs and then 854 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: they could go all in and maybe getting the quarterback 855 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: next year. Um. But it is risky though, because they 856 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: do risk now Eli falling off a cliff next year 857 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: and this guy Donald playing in the same building potentially 858 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: lighting up the a f C East And the Giants 859 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: don't usually lose pr battles to the Jets, but it 860 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: is they are walking that tight role hoping it doesn't 861 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: work again. I think they love I think from weeks 862 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: and weeks and months ago they looked to Kwan Barkley 863 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: and said, I don't care who is there. This is 864 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: our guy. They have felt. They fell so hard in 865 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: love with him, and it was it was the best 866 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: player available. But it also addressed a burning need for 867 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: the Giants that has been dogging them for years. And 868 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: I think it fundamentally changes their offense. And I think 869 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 1: the running back shouldn't be taken high idea is old, 870 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't I think they should have taken a quarterback. 871 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: But once you took that out of the mix, like, 872 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't get that a great running back changes your offense, 873 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: and especially in today's NFL, where if you can have 874 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: a guy who stays on the field all three downs 875 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: and is a huge factor in the passing game, who 876 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: can run better routes than your slot receiver, it's like 877 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: those guys are such difference makers. Of course they're worth 878 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: the high pack. It affects winning percentage in the first 879 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: year more than any other position historically. Moving on, so, 880 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns have the their second first round pick 881 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: at number four. It is the pick they got for 882 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: trading uh their pick last year in Houston, which in 883 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and they get Denzel Ward at cornerback. A 884 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of people thought Bradley Chubb would go to either 885 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: the Giants or the Browns at two and four, respectively, 886 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: but instead Chubb goes to the Denver Broncos at five. Uh. 887 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: So those are two picks, uh that you can't quipple 888 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: with really either. All I'd say this, I understand like 889 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: the gass in our newsroom when the Browns didn't take 890 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb and and they are that is going to 891 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: be one of those picks. And they seem to always 892 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: fall into this world where you're gonna be tracking Bradley 893 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: Chubb forever if you're a Browns fan. At the same time, 894 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: I think it's it's easy. How many people who are 895 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: casual fans even know who Emmanuel Ogba is, who is 896 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: a talented pass rusher who is perfectly adequate, beyond adequate 897 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: to pair with Myles Garrett, who you put a high 898 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: draft pick on a couple of years ago. Do you 899 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: just keep selling these guys down the river? I think does. 900 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward was DJ's number four player in his top 901 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: fifty list. This is not as as Rhoda World stated. 902 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: It was a surprise, but it was not a reach. 903 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: They were one of the worst passing defenses last year 904 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: and have been for years on end. You get an 905 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: incredibly athletic cornerback coming out of a school that produces 906 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: good cornerbacks in Ohio States. So as much as it's 907 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: all about Bradley Chubb not going to Cleveland, it's the 908 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: way it is. You got it they. I think part 909 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: of it was also the idea of Miles Garrett and 910 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: Chub on the edges destroying quarterback. I honestly think I 911 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: think that I I understand that Auga is not as 912 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: flashy right now in April. I think that you have 913 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: too very good pass rushers and you just I don't know, 914 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: it's their decisions a better player because you need as 915 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: many passengers as you can get. He's the highest drafted 916 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: cornerback since Charles Woodson, so he I mean, that is 917 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: a different making statement that they're saying about war the 918 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: Cults at number six, A lot of people thought they 919 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: would trade out of that pick. They did not. They 920 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: stayed there, and it makes a lot of sense that 921 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: they went with Quentin Nelson. We talked about this last 922 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: weekly or on Monday. Um, this makes a lot of 923 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: sense with the Colts because they're putting things back together slowly, 924 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: and what do you have to do more than anything 925 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: other than getting Andrew Luck back in the field, is 926 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: find a way to protect him. So maybe it would 927 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: have been good to stockpile some picks, but getting a 928 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: guy that people talk about is potential gold jacket type guy. 929 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: Can't quipple with that either. That's a solid pick. Everybody's 930 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: been begging the Colts forever to fix their offensive line. 931 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that big of a problem 932 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: last year, but Quentin Nelson. Like you said, he's viewed 933 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: as the next Steve Hutchinson, the next John Hannah. He's 934 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: spoken about in these reverent tones as as you know 935 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: what Dave Gettman would say, a future gold jacket guy. 936 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: To me, that's for a colts team that just needs 937 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: difference makers at any position. Why not go with the 938 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: safest guy with the big ups and everyone on draft 939 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: he wants flash. They want you to go get someone 940 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: that they can imagine scoring touchdowns and blowing up quarterbacks. 941 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: And then this might be the guy that, like fourteen 942 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: years now, retires as a shoe in Hall of Famer 943 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: and the best pick in the entire draft. Although we 944 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: heard that Chance Warmack and Jonathan Cooper were like those 945 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: those sort of guys too, Like you can't miss on 946 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: these guards up. So you're saying, I have no feel 947 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: like Nelson was even the way he's been spoken about 948 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: is different than even though yes, I agree he's had 949 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: more hyper but you can't you can't hit the pick. 950 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: The Bears take Roquan Smith, Kuan Smith line background at 951 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Georgia look a lot better. Just yeah, yeah, they might 952 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: be the most improved team are And he seems like 953 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: one of again it's dangerous to say that, but one 954 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: of the safer and just like you'd be shocked if 955 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't end up working out types of picks for 956 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: Niners address a need. The first tackle off the board 957 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey at a Notre Dame. Uh, and then of 958 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: course say Rosen at ten. That was the top ten. 959 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: Other takeaways from the rest of the first round get 960 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: us started, Greg Well just going off McGlinchey and it'll 961 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: be quick, was that all the analysts believe that this 962 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 1: tackle class was bad. Most of them had very few 963 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: in their top twenty. Uh. DJ for instance, had one 964 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: tackle in his top thirty and I don't even think 965 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: he went tonight. Uh. And yet these teams, I was 966 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 1: wondering going into are they just gonna reach for guys 967 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: because there's are no tackles. There's no tackles available in 968 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: free agency, there's no people say they're els thinking the 969 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: league and the forty Niners take McGlinchey, will see if 970 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: that's to reach. The Raiders were reportedly, according to Mayak, 971 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: kinda take him at ten and then once he went 972 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: at nine, they decided to trade back and they take 973 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: another who Colton Miller, for whatever reason, seems to really 974 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,919 Speaker 1: piss off the draft knicks that that he's a bomb 975 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: and it's some sort of like zone blocking project for 976 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: Tom Cable, which hasn't really worked out in the past. 977 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering what these tackles and the Patriots took 978 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah Win, who, for whatever reason the draft Knicks like 979 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: a little more might play guard, like whether these guys 980 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: will wind up being reaches in the long run. I 981 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: look at a Dolphins team in Minka Fitzpatrick, you got 982 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: a play or that Nick Saban out of Alabama absolutely 983 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: loves Adores and I think he's gonna be a great 984 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: pick for that defense. At the same time, you're the 985 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: team at number eleven that watched Josh Rosen picked one 986 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: spot before you, and we just talked how transformative that 987 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: pick is just for us watching all these teams, how 988 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: differently we feel about the Cardinals because of the presence 989 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: of Josh Rosen. We'll find out if we're right, but 990 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: the Dolphins will never have the chance to find out 991 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: what that team, which has been one of the more 992 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: hideously boring offenses to watch during our tenure here, what 993 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: that they've needed an injection of life, and we talked 994 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: about adding whether it was Baker Mayfield was the guy 995 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: they were linked to, but it could have been Josh Rosen. 996 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: And you sit at number eleven, you don't move, You 997 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: allow teams to jump up ahead of you, and you 998 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: will pay the price. Well, there's the fireball on that one, 999 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: Budson Burner. I I think in going back to Adam 1000 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: Gaze at the owners meetings, I really believed them what 1001 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: he said when he's into Ryan Dannehill, and I think 1002 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: he probably has sway in that organization and they trust 1003 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: his judgment on it. That's what I took out of 1004 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: when we we met with him, and that's why I 1005 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: that's why I thought they were never gonna get involved 1006 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: with this quarterback business. And now we're gonna see if 1007 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: Tannehill has one last shot. Apparently there was. I never 1008 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: thought they'd trade up, but I was real that was 1009 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: almost the most exciting moment of the draft to me. 1010 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: That and when the Saints traded up and I thought 1011 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: they were going to take Lamar Jacks was I was 1012 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: waiting for Josh Rosen to maybe be there because I 1013 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: was so fascinated to see would they kind of move 1014 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: on from Tannahill or not if he felt a near 1015 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: miss of intrigue their haunts. Gregg and let's since you 1016 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: mention the Saints, let's bring it up because they make 1017 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: the trade with the Packers, um giving up a first 1018 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: round pick, which is premium real estate in this National 1019 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: Football League. And that which led to on the NFL 1020 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: Network set Mike Mayock and uh Jeremiah, who's definitely I 1021 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 1: think he should start a podcast. I think, I mean 1022 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: definitely something. Don't set don't set the goals too high. 1023 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: Just want to have a nice, loyal, small following. That's 1024 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: what he should do. But I think what happened here 1025 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: is West cannot stand the quasi reel potentially not real 1026 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: beef with with DJs. Everybody got so fired up. Listeners 1027 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: like it. That's all the matter. People got so fired 1028 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 1: up on this dais about the Saints getting Lamar Jackson 1029 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: and then Rock goes up to the stage and announces 1030 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport And yeah, I think it feels like a 1031 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: missed opportunity. Can we stop buying the hype every year 1032 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: that the Saints are gonna draft the first round quarterback 1033 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 1: Every freaking year. People just hook line and sinker. Oh yeah, 1034 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: of course the Saints are gonna draft the first round 1035 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: quarterback they got Drew Brees. Give me a break. Also, 1036 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: the hubris that you're only one player away from a 1037 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: title team. You're also one or two injuries away from 1038 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 1: being the most disappointing team in the league. So calm 1039 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: down on one player away from the super Bowl. It's 1040 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: always those trades very rarely work the and we're just 1041 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: one player away, let's just go for it. Like the 1042 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: trade value chart essentially exploded after this trade, like the 1043 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: same totally disregarded any sense of value and gave the 1044 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: Packers uh new GM Brian Goodikins the little little wind 1045 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: for his first because he ended up using those picks 1046 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: to move back up got a ton of value. I 1047 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: really I did not like this move. First of all, 1048 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: he was talked about as a project Marcus Davenport. You know, 1049 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: they don't have a great history drafting pass rushers. But 1050 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: I like it a lot less when I heard when 1051 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: I heard Sean Payton's defense of it, he said, people 1052 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: may say that's a lot to trade up. It appears 1053 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: to be a lot, but shoot, what's our country's national debt? 1054 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: There you go it's yeah, he's like, let's let's bring 1055 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: up a totally crazy, faulty economic model in the deficit. 1056 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah he wants He's like, he's like, let's just be 1057 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: let's just be the around the NFL podcast, racking up 1058 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: credit card bills in hopes of bonus arriving. One one 1059 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: note on Marcus Davenport and that Bob McGinn Annual Scouting Uh, 1060 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: you know product that he puts out, which is a 1061 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: great read, great product. There is well a lot of 1062 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: people love him. They say head esteem, Like if he 1063 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: was a and the quarterback was b it was a 1064 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: straight line into that. So there's a lot of promise there. 1065 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: So it's not to knock him. And this is from 1066 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: a scout though. He said also he's into some weird 1067 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: poetry and like that. He has other interests. He's not 1068 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: an alta dog, but he's a pretty talented guy. Other 1069 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 1: guys killing him for being a renaissance man. It sounds 1070 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: almost like the defensive version of some sort of Josh 1071 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: Rosen thing where oh, he has too many other interests. 1072 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, I don't know, they turned 1073 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: to forget the Scouts. Camara is a renaissance man I 1074 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: worked out. I like um. Speaking of Steve Smith, the 1075 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are attempting again to address the wide receiver position. 1076 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: They drafted d J. Moore out of Maryland. He was 1077 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 1: the first wide receiver off the board, and Mr Smith 1078 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: had this to say about Mr Moore, you really want 1079 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: to know the true but how I feel they have 1080 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: never been able to replace me until to day. They 1081 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: also called Dj his spirit animal. Yeah, he said that 1082 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: before the draft, so it's almost like they were. They 1083 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: were listening anyway after we brought up try before after Smith, 1084 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: Steve Smith said that they the camera stayed on their 1085 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: their dais and Troy Agman looked like he was a 1086 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,919 Speaker 1: guy like just back from Moore who saw too much, 1087 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: just staring straight ahead. There's just no reaction at all. 1088 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: Is that what happened with the Ravens. It was really 1089 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 1: my favorite subplot of the Smith chemistry. Do you mind 1090 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: if I throw out a couple of leaves it The 1091 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: Chargers didn't miss the playoffs because they choked. They missed 1092 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: the playoffs because their field goal kicker was terrible at 1093 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. By the end of the season, 1094 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: they were clearly one of the best teams in the league. 1095 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: And now I believe they have the best roster in 1096 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: the a f C. Derwin James, guy who was viewed 1097 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: as a top ten talent. They needed a safety, that's 1098 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: exactly what they got. They've already got a defense that 1099 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: might stack up with anyone's in the NFL. I love 1100 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: that pick. They picked up Mike Pouncey at center to 1101 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: help with their offensive line. This is a team going 1102 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, if you Dan, if you 1103 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: thought we were gonna jump off the Chargers, that's not happen. 1104 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean I always once August rolls around the Chargers 1105 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: of the most unbeatable team of NFL history, and then 1106 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: by March we're talking about how the next year's Charges 1107 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,879 Speaker 1: will be unbeatable. See what happens. Maybe this is the year. 1108 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is on your radar? Is your 1109 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 1: John Cruden and the Yeah, this is definitely my gruding. 1110 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 1: What else was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. For the past 1111 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: few years, they have had an embarrassing front seven, can't 1112 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: rush the passer, can't stop the run, They're always injured, 1113 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: and now they're sort of copying off the Eagles where 1114 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: they've just loaded up to the point where not only 1115 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: have they fixed their front seven, they are absolutely loaded 1116 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: with Vinny Curry, Jason Pierre, Paul Vita Vea who they 1117 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, uchen Rhyn boll Allen. That's 1118 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: that's not even including Pro bowlers like Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David. 1119 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: You've got Kwan Alexandra middle linebacker. You've got no expense 1120 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. They are absolutely loaded in the 1121 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: front seven. That's how you fix a problem. They they 1122 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: reminds me of the Eagles. I mean, they've just fire 1123 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: bombed that area with so much depth and so much 1124 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 1: so many numbers there that they're planning to kind of 1125 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: rotate them in and all in and out, and they 1126 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: feel like quantity it's gonna be maybe a little bit 1127 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: over quality, Like even if they miss on a couple 1128 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: of those guys, doesn't matter. They're gonna have a pretty 1129 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: good defensive line. Seahawks traded back and actually picked in 1130 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: the first round for the first time in a while, 1131 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: and they're looking to not solve what's become a problem 1132 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: from that for that organization, the backfield um and they 1133 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 1: drafted Shot Penny at of San Diego State, who goes 1134 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: before Sony Michelle? Who Michelle right, who a lot of 1135 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: people are very high on. He goes to the Patriots, 1136 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: Greg they have two first round picks, uh Michelle, And 1137 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: they also took the guard, which costs you some sandwiches. 1138 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: We'll get to our sandwich props on Saturday. But your 1139 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: thought on the thoughts on the Giants, uh or the 1140 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: Patriots Friday, I was like, Uh, well, who's that guy 1141 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: from subway Jared? Just passing out sandwiches? Like, I mean, 1142 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: not not a apt comparison on any level. You got 1143 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: to use somebody other than Jared, maybe going a different 1144 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: direction with your parallels in prison, just walking past the 1145 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: cell and I'm throwing an unappealing comparison. That's Santa. I 1146 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Sony Michelle was reportedly, you know, questioned by 1147 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: some team's medical staffs and taking off boards as a risk. 1148 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: And that's just the type of player that the Patriots 1149 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: often like to take, kind of a high risk, hyrieward 1150 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: medical guy. When you watch him, he's the one guy 1151 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: after uh se Quon Barkley in this draft that I 1152 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: think you see as just a guy who can change 1153 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: your offense. He's maybe not gonna be on the field 1154 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: as many downs. He's not as big a player as Barkley, 1155 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: but he's a tough runner, like I I heard some 1156 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: comparisons to Alvin Kmara and like Kimeara. Even though he 1157 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: looks like a little more a little slender like, he 1158 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: can run and run people over in addition to be 1159 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: a really dynamic guy in space. And so he landed 1160 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: in a perfect spot. That's a great team. Whenever you 1161 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: can get a guy with a bone on bone situation 1162 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: to be in the first round, you gotta make that 1163 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: move back. But to your point, he's one of the 1164 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: few running backs that were left that could play all 1165 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: three downs where there there's a lot of these two 1166 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: down guyswise, and they clearly I would think agree that 1167 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: he was number two behind Barkley in terms of like 1168 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: did he have the potential to have a camera type impact? Mark, 1169 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: you have one more before we start to close things out. 1170 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: I think it's um cool that two brothers were taken 1171 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: in the first one. I know that NFL never kind 1172 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: of beat that into a dead horse on air, but um, 1173 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: it's like kind of crazy that you this was a father, 1174 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: Their father Ferrell Evans played for the Dolphins. Was on 1175 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: Tech Mobile West and I remembered. But we're not gonna 1176 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: We'll go through the rest of our lifetime and never 1177 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: see that again. Probably two brothers in the first round. 1178 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: And you know, it's tough if you're the Steelers to 1179 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: say we didn't even if they let's say they took 1180 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: the lesser of the two, if they number twenty plays away, 1181 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: that we didn't even get the best player in this 1182 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: person's family in this draft. That's an unusual dynamic. But 1183 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe they did well this well to see Falcons took 1184 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley and wide receiver, which hopefully makes Matt Ryan 1185 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: and more consistent fantasy. Are you gonna Are you gonna 1186 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: get sucked back into Matt Ryan on the fantasy front? 1187 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been hurt. This is a speed 1188 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver is not necessarily like that like most of 1189 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: new It fits better as a number three, and they 1190 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: needed someone a little come on a pay. He gets 1191 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: he's been one of the best twos in the league. 1192 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: He gets a lot of hype for a very good 1193 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: role player who's never topped eight hundred yards in his career. 1194 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: Like literally, that's what's his boy to six? They need 1195 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: him to He's a great role player. We have the sticks. 1196 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: That's what he was, the number two receiver. I'm one 1197 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: of the greatest offenses of the twenty first century. He's 1198 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 1: good enough to be a two was And I'm I'm 1199 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: a Falcon. I love the Falcons, I I love I 1200 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: want them to win the Super Bowl one of these years. 1201 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Like I'm rooting on the Falcons, and I think that 1202 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: they should put them right back in the mix. Then 1203 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: my final thought and just circling back to the top five. 1204 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: One thing with John Elway. When John Elway sees what 1205 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: he wants, he goes and he gets what he wants. 1206 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: This one's for John, This one's for John, This one's 1207 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: for John. This songs for John. This one's for John, 1208 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: and that swans for John. And that's the thing about John, 1209 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: always John. What is he gonna get? Just the greatest 1210 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: defensive end in the history of pro football? John Ellie 1211 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: knew Zach. John Elway gets his man. John Elway hung 1212 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: back and a lot of people were picking up the phone. 1213 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: John a trade with John Elway, But John said no, 1214 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: he is sticking with his man. Bradley Chubb generational talent. 1215 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: John does it again. He's back on top, folks. So 1216 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: basically say, no, do you want to see a man 1217 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: play the first round like a fiddle? How about I 1218 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: step in and do it for you. It's like, hey, 1219 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: you didn't You didn't think I believed in case Keenum 1220 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: as a franchise changing quarterback. No, I totally believe in 1221 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Case Keenum over Josh Rosen for the next five years. 1222 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: It's it's a huge risk case Keenum because that defense 1223 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: looks now like it did a few years ago when 1224 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. And you've got the best 1225 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: pass rushing forsom in the league with Shane Ray and 1226 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Shaq Barrett behind Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. You're getting 1227 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: after the quarterback. You're hitting him all day long with 1228 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: that defense. And then you've got Case Keenum leading an 1229 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: offense to cut its running back, hasn't fixed the offensive line, 1230 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: and as a g wide receivers on the downside of 1231 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: their career, I'm kind of in on them though. It's 1232 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: just like, I'm intrigued. Don't you want to watch that team? 1233 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: I want to watch that team, whether they're whether they're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Greg, 1234 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: your bar for wanting to watch teams is relatively less 1235 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 1: at the NFL. I'm just saying like, if every team 1236 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: is intrigued, no teams are. I totally agree with West's 1237 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: point on the defense and if nothing else, the case 1238 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Kingdom thing is interesting whether it fails or not. How 1239 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: would you file if this Broncos pass rush were to 1240 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: crack Tom Brady like an egg in the middle of 1241 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: November next season whenever they played it before? You fired 1242 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: up for those Frankie Ragnow Lions. Oh yeah, I was 1243 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: waiting for your point about the Lions. That's right, you 1244 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: were not West. I don't want to pick on the 1245 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Lions before you were. You weren't thrilled by the rag 1246 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Now pick. No, I got the second best center off 1247 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: the board. Its center. That's probably a great football pick. 1248 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I just it's not doing the Lions any favors as 1249 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: far as becoming an interesting team to walk. But the 1250 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: good news is they got right to work in their 1251 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: offseason program this year. So yeah, friending in the right direction. 1252 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: Just effort level about taking football seriously. I mean, when 1253 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 1: you can get ragged now just two years after you 1254 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: took Graham Glasgow West is West is highly annoyed because 1255 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: West in the mock draft that I released yesterday, which 1256 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: was high work, it was suspect in a final process. Yeah, largely, 1257 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 1: but West at the at one pick after the Lions 1258 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: had Frank rag Now mocked to the Bengals and then 1259 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: the Lions. In reality, I r L jumped in and 1260 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: just stole rag Now away from the Bengals, and West 1261 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: was seething in his seat, seething. My takeaway would have 1262 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: been a little bit different than that. It's the reminder 1263 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: that the Bengals operate like a nineteen fifty three NFL 1264 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: team and they still make territorial picks. So they went 1265 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: for their high like a center from like forty miles away. 1266 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Gotta getta get him, like they only take the guys 1267 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: they have for the local is. It's where they can 1268 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: have them there all days. I gotta take Chris Perry 1269 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: over Stephen Jackson because Chris Perry played in a big 1270 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: tent the I love those regional stars. The most uh 1271 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: uplifting um moment of the evening was Ryan Shazier walking 1272 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: on stage uh laboring to get there because the guy 1273 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 1: has gone through a lot and stills a lot more 1274 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 1: to go through. After suffering that spinal injury. But very 1275 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: cool to see him coming onto the stage with his 1276 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: fiancee and announcing the Steelers pick of Trrell Edmonds. That 1277 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: was very cool. And um, finally, Roger Goodell. You thought 1278 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: that Goodell walking out to the stage to start the 1279 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: NFL Draft would not lead to booze. I would lead 1280 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: to booze, especially Dallas where the Ezekiel Elliott suspension and 1281 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: all that negativity's gonna get booted almost anywhere, but especially Dallas. 1282 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: But no, as you'll hear in this clip, he got 1283 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: a rousing ovation. Let's listen it Welcome to the two 1284 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Texas style. I can't blame you. Guys are boring the Cowboys. 1285 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Come on. Yeah, he's being a good sport about it. 1286 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: But it's funny that the move was. And it was 1287 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: a smart attempt, a smart effort. Here Goodell came on 1288 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 1: the stage with all the big dogs. It was Troy Aikman, 1289 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: it was Roger Starback, and it was Jason Witten. And 1290 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 1: I said, all right, this might counteract the booze. Did not. 1291 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: They gotta start doing this like in three Park Avenue 1292 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL Home office if you really want to 1293 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: avoid the booze that's part of this event. Now, it's 1294 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: kind of fun. The booze were louder in Dallas, I 1295 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: guess because there was more it was indoors mostly and 1296 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: more people. But that that was insane. You couldn't really, 1297 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: you couldn't hear what Goodell said first two minutes. We 1298 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: have to if we're gonna be talking about the crowd, 1299 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: we have to give the edge to the Philly crowd 1300 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: from won the super Bowl and your and your draft crowd, 1301 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: also the Cowboys and also just beating the Cowboys and everything. 1302 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: It's just I mean, the draft that threatens to become 1303 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: like a late period Dave Matthews album massively overproduced. What 1304 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: happened to the rawness of it? Can we just get 1305 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 1: just analogy? It's a little bit, a little bit too shiny? Yeah, great, 1306 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 1: come back much polish where Yeah the ants Marching era dB. 1307 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's radio as opposed to just like the gritty 1308 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: like low fi. I'm not it's not really a Dave Matthews. 1309 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: It's just at the end of the Dave Matthews run 1310 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: it was like police with yourselves, very different products. He's right, 1311 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: it was actually a really good analogy you're thinking like 1312 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: this is like Circle like every Day era Dave Matthews, 1313 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: whereas it Radio City it was like under the Table 1314 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: and Dream. Yes, very much. I think it's very generous 1315 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: of the Shadowy League figures to allow us to continue 1316 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: to talk about music. Very nice. We will be back 1317 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday to recap the final six rounds of Basic 1318 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: Overview of the Draft. Um, so make sure you check 1319 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: in on Saturday. And thank you to everybody for listening. 1320 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 1: And if you stayed up late waiting for this show, 1321 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: I hope it was worth it. You guys are the best. 1322 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: And uh, the dawn of a new day, Yes it is, 1323 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: I believe. Should we go get a drink? We gotta celebrate. 1324 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Let's go get a drink. Cozy time. Dan hands a 1325 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: signing off for a Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the All Boss, 1326 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Lindsay Fulton behind the glass, Miss money Bags 1327 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Till Saturday night,