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Speaker 1: With a recdres.

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky because, like I always was so fucking into

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Speaker 2: what I did. I didn't even know you could make

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Speaker 2: money for music when I first started. It was just

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Speaker 2: like a pipe dream. And then I started making money,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm like, oh my god, Like I made

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars, I don't ever have to work again,

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Speaker 2: like because you don't know anything. Like It's like it's

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Speaker 2: like I didn't grow up with like millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: So I made like four thousand bucks one time doing

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Speaker 3: a commercial and I went to Fulton Street mall and

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Speaker 3: bought gold teeth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and my friend goes, dude, what are you doing, dude?

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Speaker 4: I was like, I made four.

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Speaker 2: Grand, dude, I made. I made six thousand dollars. I

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Speaker 2: bought a bracelet, a diamond bracelet for for eighteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I went back to my hometown in Virginia and we

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Speaker 2: used to do this thing where when it was cold,

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Speaker 2: you would like go on the ice and you would

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Speaker 2: try to like slide on the ice as far as

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Speaker 2: my hands fell through the ice. Literally, bracelet gone in

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Speaker 2: the first second, like and I was like, I'm never

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Speaker 2: doing this again. Yeah, but it's like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So for me, I'm always doing it. It's like I

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Speaker 2: started so young that I always was doing it for

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Speaker 2: fun and then I started making Like.

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Speaker 3: You were like a boy genius. You were like a

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Speaker 3: musical genie. You're like the Doogie House of music. Really,

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Speaker 3: the story you told me when at New Year's about

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Speaker 3: like you were like you were like downloading different hacked

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Speaker 3: programs and free figuring them out to bullet boards. Not

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Speaker 3: at your level, dude, you are like a fucking wiz.

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Speaker 1: I was just upset. I'm like, I'm very obsessive with stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're jew So I'm like like I just get

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Speaker 2: so obsessed and I'm like I gotta do it, like

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Speaker 3: But you come up very casually. When you told me

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Speaker 3: that story, I realized your creative prowess.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, Benny's like successful for a reason,

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Speaker 4: a reason like the fact that you were doing that reason.

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Speaker 3: No, really that you were doing that. So for the audience,

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Speaker 3: can I tell a little bit? Can I shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: paraphrase you', I'll give like the cliff notes, But like

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Speaker 3: when you were like you have no twelve or thirteen.

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Speaker 4: No, I remember vividly when you were like thirteen. Weren't

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Speaker 4: you downloading like.

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Speaker 3: Fruit loops and all those early program logic and acid

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Speaker 3: and all those early programs and teaching yourself how to

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Speaker 3: manipulate each one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was doing that.

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Speaker 2: And I would get like, and you were going to

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Speaker 2: like beat competitions I didn't even know was a thing.

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Speaker 2: And I would get like key generators to like hack

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Speaker 2: like the the program so I could it could like

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Speaker 2: start up and think that I paid for it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like like like like.

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Speaker 4: You have like a you have like a knack to adapt.

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Speaker 4: You're intelligent.

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Speaker 2: So that computer took the biggest beating of any life.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I want to hear those first gen

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Speaker 2: It's terrible, the but the only thing I did on

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Speaker 2: that computer was like nerdy shit and beat off all

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Speaker 2: day like it was like it was and I had

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Speaker 2: like this window before my mom would get home from work,

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Speaker 2: so I would actually run.

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Speaker 1: I would run home.

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Speaker 2: I would run as fast as I can, and I

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Speaker 2: few hours. So I had to like balance it between

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Speaker 2: beating off and making beats, and I was like and

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Speaker 2: and this was like back when like the pieces were

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Speaker 2: like so bad.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they sounded like they were.

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, it was insane, and there was it was

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Speaker 5: right when like pop ups started and do you remember,

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Speaker 5: like do you remember like the pop ups and the

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Speaker 5: little like viruses that would like make your like search

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Speaker 5: bar disappear, like my search bar was gone, and like

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Speaker 5: if you turn on my computer, which just like just

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Speaker 5: pop us. And used to have to call a man

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Speaker 5: and and and the man would come over with like

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Speaker 5: a briefcase and like to fix your computer.

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Speaker 4: And every time.

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Speaker 2: He came over, hed be like it's so much born

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Speaker 2: like and I'd be like, mom, all to take care

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Speaker 2: of the guy. So so like that was I was

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Speaker 2: just like beating off and making beats on the family computer.

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Speaker 2: He was like constantly. I was just like ass naked,

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Speaker 2: just like it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: But how did you know to go to beat competitions?

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Speaker 2: It evolved like I used to go to My brother

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Speaker 2: used to take me to this like tape and record

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Speaker 2: store every day. We would go like every day when

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Speaker 2: I was like five years old. Yeah, yeah, my brother

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Speaker 2: was so into music. My mom my family was so

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Speaker 2: into music, and I had very good taste, so I'm

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Speaker 2: like I got to go all the time, and I

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Speaker 2: would like save up all my money to buy like

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Speaker 2: like the like just like singles, and I would just

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Speaker 2: listen to them all day. And then when Sam Goodie,

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Speaker 2: you remember the store Sam Goodie, when that came out,

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Speaker 2: I used to go and I would just be at

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Speaker 2: that free thing and I would just sit there all

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Speaker 2: day with the headphones on and just play every CD.

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Speaker 2: And I used to I'm such a loser. I used

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Speaker 2: to open the liner notes and cover up who produced

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Speaker 2: it and try to guess who produced the staff.

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Speaker 4: I want to get anywhere. This is what I did.

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Speaker 3: I would make. I had like a rollin eight track

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Speaker 3: digital eight track with a CD burner, and I would

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Speaker 3: my friend who actually made good beats on fruit loops.

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Speaker 4: I would do my shitty raps all over it.

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Speaker 3: And then like I got a deaf juck CD and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna take the fung wab bus

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Speaker 3: from Boston and New York and I'm gonna hand this

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Speaker 3: to LP and he's gonna sign me. And I had

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Speaker 3: my lyrics printed out like Microsoft word. I remember I

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Speaker 3: saw I went to Sunny purchase and Prince Paul played

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Speaker 3: and I gave him a burnt CD with my lyrics

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Speaker 3: printed out, and he looked at it. He's like, what

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Speaker 3: is this. I was like, I printed out my lyrics.

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Speaker 3: He's like, just give me the CD. Like I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a knack like you. It's not enough to have

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Speaker 3: a knack to have like good musical taste.

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Speaker 4: You had a.

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Speaker 3: Knack for navigating the ever changing music industry, which is

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Speaker 3: his own skill set. You have, like to have that

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Speaker 3: level of musical prowess and on top of it, have

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Speaker 3: such a good You're so good at navigating that industry.

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Speaker 3: The industry always baffled my mind. And just like knowing

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Speaker 3: what people wanted, I was too neuro divers lyrics printed

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Speaker 3: all my lyrics printed out, But like my music.

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Speaker 4: Was not for dude, I didn't more than like one

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Speaker 4: hundred people.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know anything. I used to just I used

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Speaker 2: to literally go to studios and I would sit outside

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Speaker 2: of the studio.

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Speaker 1: And if anyone came out, I'd be like, do you

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Speaker 1: make music? Because they didn't. You didn't know.

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Speaker 2: There was no Instagram or anything, so I'd like, do

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Speaker 2: you do you do stuff? And like I would sit

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Speaker 2: there and I used to like the way I recorded

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Speaker 2: was I had two boomboxes and I would record it

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Speaker 2: to one.

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Speaker 3: The first tape I made it was my Grandma's VCR

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Speaker 3: and my mom's VCR and I would.

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Speaker 4: Record play Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you had a knack that maybe maybe it

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Speaker 3: is your brother was the secret ingredient of that. You

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Speaker 3: had some he was like your soundboard, You're like, is

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Speaker 3: this a bad idea? Was in the beginning where You're like,

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Speaker 3: is this dumb?

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Speaker 5: Is this it?

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Speaker 3: That idea?

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Speaker 1: I used to just shooting in the dark.

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Speaker 2: I used to cold call record later and I would

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Speaker 2: pretend I was like, so if it was like Atlantic

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Speaker 2: at the time or Deaf Jim, I would like pretend

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Speaker 2: I was jay Z's lawyer, and I'd be like, I

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Speaker 2: would look up brilliant and I'd be like, we need

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Speaker 2: to speak immediately. And then like when I got to

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Speaker 2: like the president of the company, I'd.

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Speaker 1: Be like, don't hang up. I got a demo table.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, I actually became friends with all the assistants

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Speaker 2: at the time, and like, I mean one of those

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Speaker 2: assistants is my manager.

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Speaker 4: To this day. Yeah, it's crazy, it's brilliant.

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Speaker 1: I'm how brilliant. It's just brilliant because it worked out.

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Speaker 1: If it didn't work out, Yeah, just a moron

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Speaker 4: With Adre