WEBVTT - LS Episode 482: Maneuvering Holiday's (Feat. Devyn Simone)

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<v Speaker 1>What's dev' slip service. I'm answer like, yee, I'm JJ Maguire,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jordie Jor, I'm Jazz and Brand, and I'm Devin

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<v Speaker 1>simooney Man. This is the perfect time of the year

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<v Speaker 1>for this because Devin Simone who is a match maker,

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<v Speaker 1>relationship expert, all of the things you know her from TV. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so honored to have you here because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a stressful time for some people when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and dating. So for clarity, who hear a single

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<v Speaker 1>okay two of.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, Yeah, we need help.

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<v Speaker 1>And Devin and we do want to say congratulations because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've been married for how long now.

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<v Speaker 2>Like about a year and a half?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Designed for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes people try to discredit, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not married, they'd be like, oh, how are you offering?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how is that for you? Because people tend to.

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<v Speaker 2>They do do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say, you know, no one can help you

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<v Speaker 3>get the ring better than I can, because I've got

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<v Speaker 3>it multiple times your house.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted it to be the right person.

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<v Speaker 3>So I waited to actually get married and walk down

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<v Speaker 3>the aisle with the right person. And I waited for

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<v Speaker 3>my perfect person. But I think you know they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>good dating experts and relationship experts who were just knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 3>because we geek out on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like honestly, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love learning why we connect with certain people, how it

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<v Speaker 3>changes every year. Like to me, that's just always been fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't rule someone out just because they're single. But look,

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<v Speaker 3>if they haven't been able to hold down a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>for like decades, I might side eye them and not

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<v Speaker 3>take their advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well so Gigi you're single now, yes, still,

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<v Speaker 1>Gigi's been through a lot too, she's gotten a well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was engaged. We were engaged.

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<v Speaker 4>We did see the jeweler, but I never got the ring.

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<v Speaker 4>It only lasted sixty five days.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the relationship okay, so it was like fire, very

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<v Speaker 3>like Verry fat can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just as fast as that ended.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you what are your thoughts about that, Devin?

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about somebody meeting someone, some people will

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<v Speaker 1>believe in love at first sight. Right, And like Gigi

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged very quickly, like three days she came like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her, and then the next time I saw her,

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<v Speaker 1>she was engaged to somebody we'd never heard of. That

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild, But what do you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if someone comes to you like I met this person.

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<v Speaker 1>Three days later they're like, we're getting married.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's totally fine to have all the

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<v Speaker 3>feelings but still take your time to actually move forward,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously you did and you saw some things.

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<v Speaker 2>That ultimately you were like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, of the sparks, because sparks can lead to fire damage,

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<v Speaker 3>Like people are looking for that, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we felt it right away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the slow burn is good too, Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>something that has longevity, so slow don't rule that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's the lesson that I did learn.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, okay, girl, that was cute and all, but

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<v Speaker 4>take your time because it wasn't clearly wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it's fun too, Like feeling like you just

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<v Speaker 1>got head over heels into something. Maybe you're also getting

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<v Speaker 1>over something else, and that can also get us to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is you know, it's like a replacement situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm enjoying being single for the most part, but I

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<v Speaker 4>am start.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting a little like bored.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I don't want to use the word lonely because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ain't nobody going to me?

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<v Speaker 1>You can call someone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'm bored, like I want you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>want like the field.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you are you bored?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you want to winter cuddle buddy, you know someone

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<v Speaker 3>that's just kind of like fun and that you to

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<v Speaker 3>keep you occupied now or you like, I'm open because

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<v Speaker 3>I want something.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to date with the purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I want to date with like

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<v Speaker 4>this is really going to probably end up in marriage. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So then say that, don't stand bored because even putting

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<v Speaker 4>that energy out there, it's like people who are going

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<v Speaker 4>to come and just occupy your time and not add

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<v Speaker 4>value to your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, already an I want three boyfriends a roster. I

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<v Speaker 2>want a roster. Three is good.

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<v Speaker 5>Numbers, like, just to balance me out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I was celibate for two years, so I wasn't dating.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't really doing anything for a while two years basically, And.

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<v Speaker 2>What led to that chort or like I was in.

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<v Speaker 5>A situationship and I felt like I kept finding myself

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<v Speaker 5>in situations where I was using my body in a

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<v Speaker 5>way that didn't feel good to me, and so I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, you know what, let me just cut the

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<v Speaker 5>shit out and take a little breather and see what.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really been that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thoughty, I like that word.

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<v Speaker 2>It has never really been my thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's what I realized about myself, is that

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<v Speaker 5>I get emotionally attached.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I could be a savage, but that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want diverse, but with the same people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be out here Thoughty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, a little rotation. Yeah, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>totally valid too.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the best step is, like for anyone,

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<v Speaker 3>recognizing where you are and what you're looking for and

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<v Speaker 3>being clear about that. Something that so Tinder just did

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<v Speaker 3>their year in swipe right and one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that they saw even in like dating bios we're calling

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<v Speaker 3>it loud looking but sort of looking for was the

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<v Speaker 3>top ranked thing that was mentioned in profiles this year

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<v Speaker 3>versus say last year, where people are being clear about

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<v Speaker 3>what this is what I'm looking for, whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want a roster, I'm looking for something

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<v Speaker 3>long term, even if it's like I'm in a place

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm not quite sure. They're just being communicative about

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<v Speaker 3>that versus a year ago where situationships and ambiguity and

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<v Speaker 3>being like I don't really know what I want was

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<v Speaker 3>the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Being clear? Yeah, it's like the first step.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because sometimes people used to always say things like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'll just find you, or if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for it, it won't happen. People used to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's an old school type of thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>now I always felt like dating, if you really know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want and your intentional it is like looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I tell you that. Yeah, it's like I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>like really be clear these You gotta leave the house

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<v Speaker 1>and look online. Dating is the same thing as like

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<v Speaker 1>applying for jobs, and you might get some rejections. You

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<v Speaker 1>might find some jobs, go on these interviews it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out, or you might go and get hired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah literally, or you might do hi, you might hire somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Never been on a dating.

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<v Speaker 1>It, really I think you should try. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean seeking arrangements, but they don't really count. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a dating app. It can be I don't find anybody

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<v Speaker 2>at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What about being intentional about that like, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>somebody with a lot of money to take care of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, be intentional, know yourself, know thyself, be true,

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<v Speaker 3>and be honest about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's totally valid and fine.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you can move to move in a direction

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<v Speaker 3>because you looking for intinctionality right now, since that's different

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<v Speaker 3>than Jeordie wanting a roster, you're gonna move a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit differently and how you're evaluating people and dating people.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's also why it's important to kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>speak it out loud and really know, like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where we are, and if it changes in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of what you want, that's totally okay too. But

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent of new relationships they just we actually I

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<v Speaker 3>was just speaking with a clinical researcher, clinical psychologist, and

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<v Speaker 3>they found that fifty percent of relationships now begin online.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that it is, and people who are really imbursed

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<v Speaker 3>out using online Like no one's still using a rotary phone,

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<v Speaker 3>being like ah man, those cell phones, that technology, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>look at them like what like where you what? Ha?

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<v Speaker 2>So online dating is the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean it has to only be that people are

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<v Speaker 3>still meeting in person, but opening yourself up to that

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<v Speaker 3>also opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Right to meet your husband online.

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<v Speaker 1>Very gay period.

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<v Speaker 3>All the engagements came from online, So I'm just saying, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's three So what made you feel like?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Like even in his profile, what made you say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go out with him?

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<v Speaker 6>Ha?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So so he and I met online, probably like in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, So I don't know what was the math

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<v Speaker 3>like seven years ago, and I think it was what

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote was kind of witty, like funny. He was

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<v Speaker 3>cute in his photos, but guys also take weird photos

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<v Speaker 3>online too, and he's a creative advertising so even now,

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<v Speaker 3>so like once we reconnected an explant second, I like

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<v Speaker 3>went through his profile just for fun and I was like, ew,

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<v Speaker 3>I never would have swiped on this now, like your

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<v Speaker 3>photos are awful. So but he had at least like

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<v Speaker 3>two presentable ones that I was a good photo just

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<v Speaker 3>for people. Listen to your face a guy, especially for

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<v Speaker 3>men or women out at a social function is good.

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<v Speaker 2>All of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't be with your friends, but at least one maybe

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<v Speaker 3>where you're dressed, you're at a wedding, you were at

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<v Speaker 3>a friend's didn't birthday dinner or something like that with

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<v Speaker 3>good lighting, that's a good one. A solo shot outdoors,

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<v Speaker 3>just because outdoor lighting is the best natural lighting, and

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<v Speaker 3>studies show that that tends to do really well, like

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of blue background. If you have pets,

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<v Speaker 3>or like a particular hobby or activity, you like one

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<v Speaker 3>photo that shows you doing that. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be dulled up in it, but it just shows because

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<v Speaker 3>what you're doing is you're filling in the blanks with

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<v Speaker 3>your photos, right, Like, there's only so much you can

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<v Speaker 3>write on your profile. So instead of being like I

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<v Speaker 3>like to try things and I like animals, show a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of you with animals, or show a picture of you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, doing painting or hiking or doing whatever the

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<v Speaker 3>thing is, and make sure you're like at least laughing

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<v Speaker 3>in one or something like just that you don't take

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<v Speaker 3>yourself so sick of me.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you to do an audit of my I

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<v Speaker 5>would eating okay, And you say it doesn't really say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really bad at bio.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, it isn't anything at all. Hold on, let me

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<v Speaker 3>see she pulls that up. Let me see what's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So whilst he's looking at that. What's some advice

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<v Speaker 1>you would give for somebody's bio.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no ex uses. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, there should be one chat GPT is

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<v Speaker 3>free claude AI, which I prefer. It's more conversational. You

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<v Speaker 3>can also use for free. You can put in some

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<v Speaker 3>bullet points about yourself and say, I and my name

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<v Speaker 3>is blah blah blah. I am thirty six, I live here,

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<v Speaker 3>I am trying to track this, this and this.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, uh, you know dogs, I work in radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I da da da. My friends describe me of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Write me a compelling, short, witty bio, give me some options,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it'll keep doing. You can even pull some

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<v Speaker 3>of your favorite lines from each of the options it

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<v Speaker 3>gives you and create to customize.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't have to do any of.

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<v Speaker 1>The thinking, Okay, you're doing it's really that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry. I'm seeing I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>It all by doing it. It's so cute and dope.

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<v Speaker 1>I think any guy would be so excited to end

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<v Speaker 1>up on a date with Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think so.

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<v Speaker 5>So it says my job obviously, because you have to

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<v Speaker 5>put that in there, and then it just says about

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<v Speaker 5>you for your job. It says DJ, nonprofit co founder,

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<v Speaker 5>a music loving potato enthusiast, and then it says I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a straight woman interested in women and men, though I'd love.

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<v Speaker 2>To connect with anyone because it has both men and women.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys feel confused by what she? I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know she wanted to date a potato.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that it was the love of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't based. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't match to me what you what you like,

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<v Speaker 6>who you are yea, who you are, and what you

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<v Speaker 6>say and then what you're looking for?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it didn't okay, how how would I like?

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<v Speaker 2>What should I shift? I actually liked your first line

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was funny. And even if it does,

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<v Speaker 3>that part doesn't make sense. It stops you in your potato.

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<v Speaker 3>And those are all great first line, like for people

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<v Speaker 3>thinking what would I say to that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's those are all first lines.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the rest that got confusing, of like, you

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<v Speaker 3>literally contradict yourself because you go out a straight woman

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<v Speaker 3>but looking to meet anyone and so and in what

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<v Speaker 3>content and what capacity? Like, all of that starts to

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<v Speaker 3>get confusing. So I focus on one other thing about

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<v Speaker 3>you that is that really does show or reflect kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you or your personality.

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<v Speaker 2>So leave the potato line. I think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But then just something about like, you know, passionate Like

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned you have a nonprofit, so like passionate about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever the causes or enjoy doing X. And

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<v Speaker 3>then write something that gets you excited in a potential

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<v Speaker 3>like partner or rostermate. So be like bonus points if

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<v Speaker 3>you know how to blank, or if you're good at this, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you might catch my eye if you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're kind of like teased dangling a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>so that they can come for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it perfect?

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<v Speaker 1>We like that not yeah, because and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things that you know, you're very close to

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<v Speaker 1>your father. I think that's you know, that's always a bonus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it matters a lot how people interact with

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<v Speaker 1>like family and you know, so I always look at

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<v Speaker 1>that as a plus if somebody I love when people

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<v Speaker 1>have like great relationships with you know, I always think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a red flag if they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this today, which is funny on

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<v Speaker 3>the Today Show about if that's a flag or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree it's always better when they're close with their family.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think you have to make space for

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that not everyone grew up with a supporting,

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<v Speaker 3>a supportive or loving you know, and so and as

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<v Speaker 3>we move into a place of personal growth and we

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<v Speaker 3>get older, and I feel like when we were younger

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<v Speaker 3>in our parents' generations, there's a little bit of toxicity

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like you stick beside.

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<v Speaker 2>Them no matter what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we've come to a place that like, I

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<v Speaker 3>can love you, but I may need to do so

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<v Speaker 3>from a distance if you weren't healthy for me. So

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<v Speaker 3>be careful and using a broad brush to like for

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<v Speaker 3>anyone like fine, doubt the why behind maybe why they

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<v Speaker 3>have the dynamic with their family, because yeah, because my.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom used to be like, the first time I heard

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<v Speaker 1>your father yeo was the day we got married. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she was like, we would the whole family when

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<v Speaker 1>we would come there, they would all be like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>here he comes. So it always was kind of something

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<v Speaker 1>that's stuck in my head, you know, when she did

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<v Speaker 1>say that, sorry, Dad, I know he listens. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you some other questions. Okay, so how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know when it's time to give someone a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they may have had a rocky pass, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we all know the person who Maybe people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a cheater, He's always going to be a cheater.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you start dating somebody and somebody sends you a

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<v Speaker 1>message like, girl, he used to date my friend and

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<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, awful. Right, So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do in that case, because you do want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have your guard up a little. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you can't take somebody else's experience, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and run with that. But then maybe you're ignoring something

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<v Speaker 1>that could really be like a we try to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you because we see it happen all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I'd say is probably look at look at

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<v Speaker 3>the signs outside of you. Right, So if they're saying

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<v Speaker 3>they're changed person, how are they moving through the world,

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<v Speaker 3>just in how they treat women? For example, in general,

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<v Speaker 3>do they seem like they're a respectful person consistently, not

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<v Speaker 3>only to the woman they're trying to woo in that moment,

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<v Speaker 3>but like in general, that's a good sign. Ask him

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<v Speaker 3>about ask him about his past relationships, be like, what

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<v Speaker 3>did you learn from that relationship because that helps. You're

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<v Speaker 3>now giving him all the tools to see where he

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<v Speaker 3>paces places the blame what he says about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like, well why didn't you work out with her?

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<v Speaker 3>Why'd you cheat on her? It's just what did you learn?

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's like, well, she did this, and she

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<v Speaker 3>did that, and she did this, and there's nobility accountability,

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<v Speaker 3>like but if he's like, you know what, back then,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really sure because for probably most of us here,

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<v Speaker 3>there's someone in our past who be like, they're terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, like they broke my heart,

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<v Speaker 3>they did this, or they whatever, And we had our

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<v Speaker 3>reasons for doing what we did, so it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>make us bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't necessarily make this other person bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they if they keep, if the way that

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<v Speaker 3>they speak and the way that they move outside of

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<v Speaker 3>how they are directly towards you is still consistent with

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<v Speaker 3>all the negativity you're hearing, then they probably haven't outgrown that,

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<v Speaker 3>and you probably you know, should look but not touched now.

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<v Speaker 1>This year is wipe list in particular. Jordan and I

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<v Speaker 1>have a really big issue, yes with something on this list.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the years wipe is basically tender talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the dating transfer twenty twenty four, what's ahead for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five? Now one part of this seed all

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<v Speaker 1>over your face and said the most attractive users star

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<v Speaker 1>signs in twenty twenty four to men, and for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason for men and women, Capricorn was last on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>We were the bottom of every zodiocracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else was kind of on point. But then we

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<v Speaker 1>saw that and it made us question.

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<v Speaker 2>This wholes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was given before us. Know you were and enough

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<v Speaker 1>gem and I was most attractive two men. We're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that apparently, But how important is and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not placing no importance on this particular list, but how

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<v Speaker 1>important do you think astrology is? And have you been

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<v Speaker 1>a person Devin who has been like, okay, well, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't date that sign.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never intentionally said I don't date a sign, but

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<v Speaker 3>I will say in all my dating history, when I

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<v Speaker 3>started to look at it, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>clusters of similar sign like a lot of people born

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<v Speaker 3>within the same like two or three weeks here and

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<v Speaker 3>the same, never intentionally, so there's got to be something

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<v Speaker 3>around what you're like drawn to. Now you know those persons.

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<v Speaker 3>People worked out and I ended up marrying a Gemini.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had been warned about what a Gemini means.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going on wars. And you know, while I think

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<v Speaker 3>that he has, like there's multiple sides to him just

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like his interests, like he can you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot that he can do. You can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of take him anywhere. He's an adaptable person.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not he's you know, he's pretty straight. I'm totally

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<v Speaker 2>crazier than he is. And that's how people.

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<v Speaker 3>But I never dated a Gemini before him and that

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, he's my person through and through.

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<v Speaker 4>That seems to be the cluster of what I've dated

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<v Speaker 4>as a Gemini, like most of my significant relationships have been.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe move away from the like experiment with out

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<v Speaker 3>of the cluster.

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<v Speaker 2>Get yourself a Scorpio or something wild, maybe a virgo.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had that I really liked.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy on the top of my list right now

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<v Speaker 2>is just.

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<v Speaker 4>Said to terrorists, the terrorists, but you know there's fiance,

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<v Speaker 4>so you try to move out your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, this Capricorn thing is still really.

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<v Speaker 3>Traveling with these Listen, this is just data, So this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't even like, oh this is That's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best things about tender right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the largest eating from the world, so the data

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<v Speaker 2>is speaking. Halpercorn is the most rare sign. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's just because.

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<v Speaker 1>There's yeah that you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably why I'm glad you guys found a way

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<v Speaker 3>all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing we wanted to ask about is unique dates.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about this before you got here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are some things on here. Kiss met right,

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<v Speaker 1>kiss met, So it's like destiny or face spontanatey. We

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask about in this room, what has been

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<v Speaker 1>the most unique spontaneous date that you've ever been on

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<v Speaker 1>that you can think of off the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it did or it didn't work out, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still as cute because I think people are always looking

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<v Speaker 1>for ideas too, something different to do. What about Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with your Devin.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see my interesting because I need it. I've lived

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<v Speaker 3>lives before my married life, and I think one of

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<v Speaker 3>them is like hopped on a plane to Toronto, just

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<v Speaker 3>like like pack a bag, let's go spent the weekend there,

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<v Speaker 3>had a really great time. It was my first time,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like twenty one, so it was my first

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<v Speaker 3>time going to Toronto and then flew back the next

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<v Speaker 3>day and it was just like a vibe. And then

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<v Speaker 3>that same person we like went to hopped on a

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<v Speaker 3>plane to Barbados, and then we crashed a wedding that

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<v Speaker 3>Katy Perry was performing at.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and it was, you know, a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was at the time, it

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<v Speaker 2>was good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so we crashed the know weren't invited to the wedding,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was his like people he knew were working it,

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<v Speaker 3>like were the security for it. However, I was recognized

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<v Speaker 3>as not being on the guest list. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>got too close to the stage and then at a

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<v Speaker 3>s we had to dip out of the wedding before

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<v Speaker 3>it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, I don't feel like I know this

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<v Speaker 2>not a hell of a performance.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great.

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<v Speaker 4>You no, but the whole travel, like the spontaneous travel

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<v Speaker 4>is definitely Gemini energy.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what I wanted from one of my boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>But what have you had, Jodie, Joe hasn't been your

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<v Speaker 1>most unique spontaneous date.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the bathhouse one is probably It's a unique

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<v Speaker 5>date I went on that I can think of clearly.

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<v Speaker 5>None of the other ones were noticeable because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>even remember.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was That.

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<v Speaker 5>Was vibe because you're kind of really just literally stripped

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<v Speaker 5>down and just no makeup, just raw and like there's

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<v Speaker 5>no you're not allowed to have your.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone, so you really are just dialed in and it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty intimate. Yeah, so that was That was good. It

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<v Speaker 2>was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about you jazzy jazz Jazmine brand I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think salsa dancing. This guy was dating.

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<v Speaker 6>We were really Yeah, this guy, I was in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 6>This guy we went, he took me sausa dancing. He

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<v Speaker 6>was like a regular black dude too. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was dance and it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that you would think of normally.

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<v Speaker 4>What about I don't know if this really counts as

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<v Speaker 4>a date, but I met a guy at the airport

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<v Speaker 4>and we ended up being on the same flight as

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<v Speaker 4>that was delayed, and we like had lunch while we.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cute, as that's exactly it's like leaning into

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<v Speaker 3>the just kind of like we're here. It's it's literally

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<v Speaker 3>like the Hallmark movie that people say that they want

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<v Speaker 3>or like the meet cute. It's like leaning into the

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<v Speaker 3>moment and just recognizing, like being spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's exactly what that's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It made it like a fun delay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. Yeah, and we ended up going out

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<v Speaker 2>after that.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't really go anywhere, but but that's like creating opportunity,

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got a few good ones. I remember one

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<v Speaker 1>guy took me horseback riding and to eat on the

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<v Speaker 1>beach in New Jersey, like on our first date, which

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<v Speaker 1>was nice because it's not something I would have especially,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look like a restaurant on the beach and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is fun, cute, easy, and it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then we saying duets the whole way

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<v Speaker 1>back from the beach in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>That I want to ask, what would make you never

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<v Speaker 1>go out with somebody again? Like the day was that

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<v Speaker 1>bad that you were like.

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<v Speaker 2>Needing rude to like the servertender.

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<v Speaker 4>Rude or too frugal, too frugal, Yeah, like if you

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<v Speaker 4>were a bad tipper, But how do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can't check the tip right like sometimes you could.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes I'm just hoping that he was a good tipper,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes what I like to do if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure is when they walk away, I throw some cash

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, just to leave a little extra just

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<v Speaker 1>in case, because I don't be knowing you don't cover

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<v Speaker 1>your fass. Yeah, and I also like tip really nice

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<v Speaker 1>and so I always like to do that just because

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<v Speaker 1>or I like to say I'll leave the tip. That

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<v Speaker 1>way I get to see the bill and lead the tip,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I feel more comfortable. No, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that i'll leave the tip.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that I'm not paying for anythingstand that fair fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving immediately. I'm not even sitting down.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not doing that. I'm actually saying, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fifty fifty. But I might be like, well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave the tip just because I also like really over

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<v Speaker 1>tip and so, and I don't know that everyone does that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think some people aren't also good at the math.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of times it'll say it on there,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes people don't be knowing, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're trying to do that real quick, and it's dark

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<v Speaker 3>in their teeth and you're trying to right right. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think anyone who's expecting for first dates, second date.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're looking if you asked the person out on

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<v Speaker 3>the date and then you're looking at them to go

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<v Speaker 3>into their wallet, that's a note for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a woman and you ask the guy out.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think he should be trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I think you know, you can expect,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think like, look after like the third day,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's and things are going well. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's great for her to step up and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>let me get this one. Let me whether it's pay

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<v Speaker 3>for the cabs, whether it's pay for the activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because it goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, i'm gonna tell you how to get a roster,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me and I'm gonna tell you how to get

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<v Speaker 3>it so that every ring that comes your way gets

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<v Speaker 3>bigger each time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, Okay, part of that goes even.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Dudes with a ton of money, Dudes with a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of money but have self worth are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>looking for the woman who feels like she wants to

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<v Speaker 3>step up as a partner. So it doesn't mean they're

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<v Speaker 3>expecting her to be fifty to fifty, but they are

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<v Speaker 3>keeping like keeping tally of does she expect me to

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<v Speaker 3>do everything, and then you get one of two things.

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<v Speaker 3>The dude with self worth will leave or the dude

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<v Speaker 3>who's looking for an imbalance to power will stay. And

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<v Speaker 3>you don't really want that, so you contributing on date three,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's just like the cab fair, Like we know,

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<v Speaker 3>dinner's gonna cost any more than the cab fair, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's showing that you're like appreciative, that you aren't looking

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<v Speaker 3>to solely reliance when else and it just goes so

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<v Speaker 3>far and like them than wanting to do ten more

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 3>because in their mind they're like, okay, cool, she's not

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<v Speaker 3>looking to just take advantage of me, like she genuinely likes.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like, I don't know if I'm ever going

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<v Speaker 5>to get to the point where the date thing paying

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<v Speaker 5>for it. But I'm like no, no, no, yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>more of.

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<v Speaker 2>A gift giver.

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<v Speaker 5>So I show my appreciation if, like on the first date,

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<v Speaker 5>you mentioned like a book or something like I'll bring

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 5>you the book, okay, or I've gotten men's like nice

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 5>ties or things like that, I show gratitude, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>like I was born on Christmas, so yes, naturally, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know to me even friends wise, like if

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<v Speaker 5>I know I have more money than someone and we're

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<v Speaker 5>out to dinner, like I'm going to take care of it, right,

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<v Speaker 5>just know, just you don't like, well, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>like a close relationships relationship. I know that reversed biology

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<v Speaker 5>when earlier let's go ahead, you when you do a

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<v Speaker 5>little something small so they could do something bigger return.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was telling Angela I went on a date

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<v Speaker 6>at one point with this guy that had a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of money, and first we went to the movies and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'm gonna go get his drinks or whatever,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 6>because I you know whatever he goes down, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to dinner.

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<v Speaker 6>We did stuff after that, but he was like saying, like,

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<v Speaker 6>no girls ever got me drinks before and made him

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<v Speaker 6>do his caked up and he was like I just

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I said, well what I said, I was thirsty, Like

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<v Speaker 6>you know what am I to do? He's like, I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, what do women do? He's like they wait

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<v Speaker 6>for me to give him a card or something, and

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 6>he was like that's never happened to me, like and

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<v Speaker 6>I was just like, oh, it's.

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that was a big deal for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously he had it and we had dinner, and he

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<v Speaker 6>spent way more, but it was like a big deal

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<v Speaker 6>for him because I guess women.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a lot of exactly and I get it

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 3>to a little thing, and I get you have your

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 3>way of doing things, but be careful letting the way

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 3>that you been doing things keep you stuck from like

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>advancing to other things, because she's even corroborating.

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Like do because that does not happen.

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 3>And it may be a dude who's like even as

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<v Speaker 3>thoughtful as the gift is, I don't need more stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in my apartment in order or like I don't need more,

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 3>but you just showing that like in that moment, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I got here a little early. I got us a

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<v Speaker 3>round of drink, and you close out that tab, like

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<v Speaker 3>just get the one round to drink and close it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But just that I'm telling you creates a lifetime, can

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<v Speaker 3>create a lifetime of investment where they're just like cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I do for her.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do for her because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>she's not trying to use And.

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<v Speaker 6>I also feel like it lets them know you got

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 6>it too, like like I could take I got.

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<v Speaker 3>This, and it takes away that balance of power thing

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 3>right where it's like I don't have to spend it,

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>but I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, So whatever other red flags for you guys, rudeness,

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>not tipping, what else? I had a guy on a

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<v Speaker 1>first date. He took me out and we went to

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a really nice best staurant. But then he wanted to

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>go do karaoke. But he could sing. For real, you

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>don't like that, so it's like peppe, Yeah, well, first

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>karaokees for people who can't sing that it's literally held

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a rap song. So look, So he was up there

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and it was so funny because like we were in

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Koreatown and so where they have like a bunch of

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>karaoke places, and so people were like watching him perform.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, so then he asked me to pick

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a song, so I made him do thong song because

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would just be funny, and he was,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>for real like she's got pup okay, yeah that way.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was like irritated by that. But the thing

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that I really didn't like was he had a he

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<v Speaker 1>had like a nice car, and he was so pressed

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>about where he was going to park his car. Like

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>first he parked and then he was like walking around

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the back of the car, like this car too close

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to mine. I don't know, I don't want to the

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>car to a bigger spot. And I'll say this is ridiculous. Yeah,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>because the way I am in my car, I'm like,

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get sketched up. I mean yeah. That kind

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of made me feel I was just kind of irritated.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And then he sent me a long email like why

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>are you not you know, because I didn't communicate email.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But it was only one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, your voice.

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<v Speaker 6>Was crazy to me be like what did this say?

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't even read along, Like what did it say?

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd been like, jasmon, look at this? What did he said? Wow?

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I went on a date with a guy.

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<v Speaker 6>He was really frugal, which was unattractive, but also he

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 6>would park his car and places that were legal. He

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 6>take a ticket out and put it on his.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very New York things.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that. And then he was on your

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>own time.

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<v Speaker 6>And he went to the super fun super he went

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<v Speaker 6>to the super cheap gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a turn off to me, like wait, wait,

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean? Like you know, okay, I live

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>in d C.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know, like some of the you know, that

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 6>do you guys have gas stations you can only pay cash.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 6>This was like years ago, like like really cheat, he

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 6>had a nice car. It was just and I was

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<v Speaker 6>just like, why are you going to this? It was

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 6>kind of off brand sort of it bothered me. It

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 6>was a combination. And then also the last thing after that,

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 6>I was done, like I didn't want to talk anymore.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 6>He kept texting me and then I wouldn't respond, and

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 6>then he sent me an unsolicited dick pic and I

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 6>remember I remember it being all these clothes around in the.

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Background like clean up. Yeah, it was just it.

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<v Speaker 5>Was just a yeah, but it was so like you

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 5>don't whatt mean more?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me show you by dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Like feet in the picture as well.

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna make you be like, okay, I must the

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 3>work for before I was like, did shave it was?

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>It was? It was I'm not gonna lie. It was

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>a decent dick.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>It was just take some close up. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad first date but you like the person, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say you kind of mess it up, like

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe you got messy, sloppy, drunk, embarrass yourself. Is there

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a way to recover what advice would you give for that,

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Simone, Let's just say I was drunk, I threw up,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I embarrassed myself, I cursed him out, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>like him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, i'd say if he was smart, he probably

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<v Speaker 3>be like no, and not because you're not amazing, but

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<v Speaker 3>just this stage of where we are, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a big red flag. But if you really want

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<v Speaker 2>to try it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Like whatever that other person's communication style is, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>different for different people. So like you, guys don't like

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 3>long text, Some people prefer text. Some people like a

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<v Speaker 3>voice note, some people like a phone call. So meet

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<v Speaker 3>them wherever they are are, not literally, but you know,

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>send them the kind of communication that they like, and

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<v Speaker 3>just say, look, I'd love to do over.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not usually like that one. I don't know.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You can kind of make a joke if you want to,

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<v Speaker 3>like I heard the moon was purple yesterday and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like, I am so sorry.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I would love to.

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Take it's on brand.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then just be respectful of how long

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 3>it takes them respond, whether or not they respond.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, whatever it is.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>And if they don't send a message, fuck you.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Anyone. If they don't respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Dding I was wondering, can something survive that? I know

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody that went on a date with somebody New Year's

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Eve and then got so drunk that she ended up

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<v Speaker 1>at his house and he's still lived with his mom

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and she was shiitting and throwing up in the bathroom

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's my I was like, is she okay?

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:02.959
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>He was to do that for her? I was like, dances,

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you messed up?

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>But why was he living with his mom?

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.479
<v Speaker 1>We were younger and maybe like early twenties. It still

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like, why are you still it? But

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know New York? You know, yeah, yeah, that's New

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>York his mom. I guess she seemed nice if she was,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, checking on her yeaheah, Okay, you wake up?

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Like where am I? What happened last night? All right?

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Now?

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Another thing we want to talk about is what if

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you meet somebody and or your friend meets somebody they're dating,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but that person did go out with you years ago.

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it didn't go anywhere, but let's just say

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>me and Jasmine, Right, Jasmine meets somebody, starts dating him,

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, ooh, I did like to him, yeah,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>three years ago and you know, nothing really happened. Should

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I tell her?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's your close friend. I think you should

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 3>be honest about it. Yeah, I think that you should

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>tell your close friends.

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Would that make you feel weird? Jazzmin, Like, would you

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>be like I can't go up?

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would make me feel weird because then.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It kind of feels like I don't want to block

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what she has going.

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>But would you rather know or rather know?

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 6>But I probably I wouldn't If I knew that, I

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, I don't want to talk to him

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 6>man like.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, but you don't want to like get further down

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the line.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I rather just forgetting the altar and you see your

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 3>photo or something.

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>It was like, well, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, I also feel like it depends on your relationship

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 6>with Like if I wouldn't tell her because I don't know,

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 6>we're no, we're not close, I would I'll tell her.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't you know what I mean?

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 6>If with someone I'm not close with, I would just

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 6>buy my business.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Like m.

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<v Speaker 4>But if there wasn't a date and there was just

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 4>like some flirting in the d MS or him just

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, trying to.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Like he didn't physically ever go out right, Yeah, if

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 3>it had, if it had stopped, like I just feel

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 3>it out, I wouldn't necessarily be proactive in sharing that info.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 3>But if it ever felt like it was relevant, or

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 3>if it was like in the last six months, you know,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 3>like hella recent versus like two years ago, he slid

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>in my DMS, like whatever else. I think it was

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 3>two years ago, saything, unless it explicitly came up somehow,

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 3>But if it was like, oh, three weeks ago, he

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 3>had just been like, yeah, three weeks.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Ago, that happened to me, my friend had slept with

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 5>this guy that I was talking to, but I met

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 5>him through her.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait what happened for or like, what's the timeline

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 3>of events?

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 5>So I actually I never knew Actually, so I think

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 5>I ever told you. So she never told me when

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 5>it happened. I don't remember, but I know it happened,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 5>and then we met and he was interested, and like,

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 5>I hung out with him. But then I realized that

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 5>as more he became more interested that I was like,

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 5>that bothered me more than it did when we were

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 5>just meeting, you know what I mean.

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>So I yeah, I had to cut that off.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she was okay with you dating him.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she didn't care.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah that happens. I've definitely been like, yeah, you

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>could date to him like years ago. I don't care

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>at all, But I do think I would feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little weird about it if it was the other way around.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to date somebody.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to date anybody that my friends left with.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, it's just I don't care how long ago.

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I'm cool, Like it's enough so I can pick.

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 1>A new one likes with MESSI.

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 1>It's also holiday season, and so things are a little different.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>It feels like if you bring somebody home, you know,

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>during this time, it feels like it's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>serious than at any other time. Like if I bring

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you home March eighth, it's way different than you know,

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve or something like that. All right, so let's

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about some of that protocol as far as dealing

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>with family dating. When do you bring somebody home? Should

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you be offended if someone doesn't invite you? You know,

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>say you're spending the holiday by yourself, you recently started

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>dating somebody and they know you're alone, and they don't

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>invite you. You know, what type of advice would you

0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>give for people around this time.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not fully a one size fits all, but I

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 3>would say generally, if you've been dating for less than

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 3>six months, don't be super in your fields. If they

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 3>don't invite you, particularly if they're really close to your family,

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 3>that's good. Now, if y'all been dating for five years

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and you note that's.

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 6>A problem, even bringing somebody else, that's the problem.

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 3>So not y'all bring a little junior in this. But

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 3>if it's been six months or less, then you know

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it's okay. And if you look kind of go with

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>your gut with it. Just be respectful. If someone does

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 3>invite you to the family, be respectful. Know your family well,

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 3>like do you really want to like exposure.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Are y'all at a place.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Now or because it's different per family, right, Like I

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 3>had gotten to a place where Avenge, I was like,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not bringing anyone home any like at this point,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm from Kansas City. I'm not bringing anyone home unless

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I've planned to make like, unless I think I can

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 3>marry them, Like it just got to that point and

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 3>my family's accepting to anyone. Fortunately, because definitely we dated

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 3>all types, but that just became sort of my like

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 3>my thing. And I do say that it's nice if

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna bring them home, and particularly to the guys.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>For the women, if you know, for whatever reason she's

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 3>by herself or going to kind of be with the

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 3>smaller group, if you want to plan something thoughtful for her.

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 3>So maybe you're not ready to bring her home to

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the family, but maybe you send her flowers on Christmas

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Eve or just something so that she doesn't feel alone

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 3>or he doesn't feel because I know you like to

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 3>give gifts, like just to kind of say, look, I

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 3>know we're not here and together, but I'm thinking of you.

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's special.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Also, dating this type of the holidays, whether you meet

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 3>family or not, is a really fun time to create

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>your own tradition.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Who knows if you'll be together next year, that doesn't matter.

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>This kind of leans into that kismet thing that Tiny

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>was talking about, like in the moment, just like especially

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 3>like in New York. Maybe it's going to look at

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the windows, or maybe it's a certain restaurant that you liked,

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't have to be a holiday themed restaurant.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It could just be whatever restaurant and maybe that's something

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 3>you start now and you create a fun memory and

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 3>then next year, whether you meet family or not, you

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 3>know whatever you guys said, do you go back to

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 3>that restaurant and you go back and do that thing.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Holidays are really fun for creating your own little right,

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Like I.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Went sledding one year. That was fun. Yeah, I don't

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>nowhere exactly right.

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Been ice skating, I've been ice skating. I've never been

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Skatingpies of lip service. That's where we need to eat out.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>We need to find a black own something, slope something.

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Now, what if your person you're dating gets you a

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>gift and you don't like it.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I got this necklace one time, and my best

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>friend knew I was getting, Like I didn't know, but

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 3>he had like asked her or something, and I think

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 3>she tried to warn them, but by the time she

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 3>responded to his message, she'd already purchased it, because.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Like it took a while.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh. When I saw it and he put it

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 3>on my neck, I felt it. I felt like it

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 3>was burning.

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And it was tried. It was burned.

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I like went in my room and cried

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 2>or like, and then eventually I did.

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, and what's sad is he got

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>like roped in by the sales because he tried to

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 3>explain what the two hearts meant, and I was like,

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 3>that's what they say on the like.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Jewelers, because yeah, yeah.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 6>You're the expert. But I feel like you just got

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 6>to eat it sometimes just like okay, thank you, thank.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 2>You for me, and just so I used to do that.

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>She cried.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Though here's the thing, she's dramatic.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 3>It was burning and it was just like, let me

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 3>take it off once experts that I actually didn't like

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>it because initially, when he gave it, I was like,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>thank you, it's so sweet.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah.

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 3>But if you've been together for a while, we want

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 3>to and my gift was great, then I got him.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>It just hated.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That's to that thought, listeners, because you feel like somebody

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>should know you enough to know what you're gonna like for.

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>A while, not initially, not yet if it's initially.

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 3>But I also think actually, even as uncomfortable, it feels

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>like always be gracious and grateful, but it is actually

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>better to be honest because if you guys do enter

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 3>into a long term relationship. You're setting that standard and

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't want him to think you like precious moment

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 3>stalls because he got you one.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Then and then years later he's you're pissed because you

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>got all because you I mean saying with like the

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>names in bed and likeah.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Also, you know, most guys will get comfortable, so they'll

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, she liked this. Be honest, but be

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 3>gracious and recognize that they tried right. So you're just like, oh,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I really appreciate this so much.

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I know you may not know this.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 3>It's the reason why earlier I mentioned I designed my

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 3>engagement ring, so getting engaged was a surprise, but the

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 3>reason I designed it was intentional because because my now

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 3>husband knows me, and he knew fairly early on that

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty picky about the jewelry that I wear.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Hints the neckle. He wasn't the one who got me

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the necklace that, but.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, he knew that story and it just

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>has enough.

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>So he was like, look, that's gonna be one of

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 3>the biggest things I ever get.

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I want it to be something you love.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I want to surprise you, but he also

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 3>knows I like to research things. So he was like, well,

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 3>what if we did it this way? Would you want

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to design your own? Like you picked the designer you

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, do whatever, And then he'd get the ring.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know when he got it. I wouldn't know

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 3>when it was done, and then he'd propose in his

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 3>own way, in his own time, in his own But

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 3>that part of that happened. And it's the ring of

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 3>my dreams and it's one of one and there's little

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 3>hidden details in it, like it's everything to me and

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I love it. I named her Betty after Betty White

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.479
<v Speaker 3>Beau's like saying, you're ready white die. But it's because

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I was honest from the jump. Whereas when I had

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>been proposed to you before, I didn't like the ring.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>How many times you been proposed to him?

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Only three?

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you keep crazy? None of them?

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Because that goes back to that showing like it goes

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 3>back to paying for something on the third date. I

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 3>was never with you for the money. This spas I

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 3>also got me. I can take care of me. And

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 3>then also this is no longer mine because this relationship

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 3>is in mind like it's not what I want.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So like some of you're proposed to me once and

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>he he would tell me to just keep the ring

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>because I said no right away. He didn't want to die.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it, did you?

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, did you keep it?

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it is at this point, but

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>it was a long time ago, but it was like

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a surprise.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'll tell you this, and the

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>manager of the restaurant was like, how did it go?

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>He was like not good?

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you guys break up?

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Saying yeah, I never haven't seen him since home.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Were you guys together before?

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>He Here's the thing, like I I was a lot younger,

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know why he did that. And

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>he told me he said his friend was like, yeah,

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you should just go for it. Like I was like,

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>why would he tell you that? It was so embarrassing,

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like here he was like, no,

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 1>keep it. I don't even want to see it.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't even open the box.

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Not had it. It was in the middle of the

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>dessert cake. And then it was at a Mexican restaurant

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and it said what.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you say?

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 4>So on the first of all, I didn't know what

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 4>the cake said because I said, well, you marry me

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 4>and his family it said well no because it was

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 4>like in script.

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what's going on in here? And

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it said would you if marry me? Because I don't know.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>They just wrote it wrong so many signs I literally know,

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, are you proposing to me?

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, oh my god. And it was.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was embarrassed because we're like at a nice restaurant.

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was funny because when we came in, they

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>were like rose petals on the table, so I was like, wow,

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they really go out all, you know. It was just

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>like they think it was inside of like a thing.

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And then they pulled the top. Yes, and there was

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a ring in the middle of the.

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Later.

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I couldn't because I was so caught off guard.

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like we had ever talked about this or

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>anything was leading up to it. It just came out

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Which is a good key. That is a good no

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and point proposals being a surprise.

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Didn't say yes and then say no, there's a.

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Whole bunch of people around.

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I would.

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know these people.

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 6>That's that's a fact.

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>And this is before social media, right, social media right now,

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 3>how was it?

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 6>He was like, no, just think if somebody had their

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 6>just all these people there thoughtful, but like I would

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 6>say yes, and then I would say no later.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 2>But then that like makes it harder and stickier, and.

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Like say no one for all these people, yes, oh

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 3>my god, and then dip you know, hard it is

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:01.959
<v Speaker 3>to change our minds later.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Like Devin Howard, was I for you did to

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>break off your several.

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Cag not only two, only too?

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 4>You know?

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>It was it was hard and the second one that

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>was working off we called off the wedding. Part of

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>it was COVID related, like we the dress, the venue,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 3>the saved the dates. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, it was

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 3>like literally we were supposed to get married the year

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>of like the pandemic, and it had been booked the

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 3>year before. And so that part was really because it

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 3>was like people I bought.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Tickets tickets the pandemic.

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Well one they waited too late to cancel, but they

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 3>did take a couple of trips to Egypt and then

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 3>that's how they got pregnant.

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 2>My nephew was born, my little Okay, so it but

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, like so that was hard.

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 3>How did I look the one that gave the necklace,

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 3>and I just was like we were kind of dragging

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 3>our feet and planning. I think it just didn't sit

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.760
<v Speaker 3>right and and look also low key a lot of prayer,

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Like just in general, it's like we're humans. We're gonna

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>do things that feel good. Sometimes don't feel good. Sometimes

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I like to just do a blanket prayer of like

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 3>save me from the things that aren't meant for me,

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 3>like let me get all the blessings you have in

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 3>store for me, and don't let me stand in my

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 3>own way. And so it just kind of led to

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 3>a conversation that I was like and I couldn't get

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 3>the ring off fast.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 6>It was both times sort of like yeah, no, I

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 6>was me and the guy I was engaged to. We're

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 6>planning a destination wedding and we called it oft and

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 6>some people already bought their tickets and stuff.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Did they get their money? Like, I don't know, she said,

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. She's like, not my problem.

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I was lovely younger.

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't consider did you get gifts and stuff? Like

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>what happens to the gifts if we have registering at

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the wedding. Yeah, there's a bridal shower gifts shower.

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>Yet my aunt did buy us this really nice hand

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 3>and he actually loved that panting used it all the time.

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 3>And when we broke up, I took that pant, even

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 3>though pant and all the spices. I my aunt was like,

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 3>let him keep the pant, I'll get you another one.

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, it's the principal, and so I

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 3>just took the pant. I still have never used it,

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 3>but they don't make it anymore. So I'm glad that,

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:24.479
<v Speaker 3>thank you, because I really don't. But I thought there

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 3>too that because it's good not stick.

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Was it the necklace? Guy?

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Get engaged in?

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Guy?

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>What did that ring look like?

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 3>So that one was smaller and it was round with

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 3>a simple band, and it wasn't me.

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't me.

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Then the next one was an heirloom and it was emeralds.

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 2>It was his grandmother's ring. That was bigger, more me.

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>And then this one I designed from scratch. It has

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 3>our initials and Morse code and diamonds hidden in the band,

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 3>and I picked the designer who I'm now friends with,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 3>so it's me.

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was okay. You know, they always say,

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 1>did you get engaged? On a holiday like during okay,

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:11.280
<v Speaker 1>because people always say, yeah, it's nothing right birthday.

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine.

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 3>My mother doesn't believe in that, but I think it's

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 3>perfectly fine. You guys do what's special for the two

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 3>of you, you know what I mean, Like, I don't

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 3>think that that's yeah, okay, I think.

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>It's for legal purposes. I think it's for legal purposes

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.280
<v Speaker 1>because no, because they do say, like if you give somebody,

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>if you propose on a holiday, they get to keep

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it because because it's a gift, legally they can keep it.

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 3>It's but I look state by state because I know

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:44.280
<v Speaker 3>some states regardless, it's considered a gift though on the premise.

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Of getting married.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so if you don't get married, like in

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 3>New York State, you have to give it back like

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>it's yours.

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Once you're legally married, it's yours to keep married.

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Because I know they said Christmas, Valentine's Day, your birthday,

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>They're like, it was a gift, and so I don't know,

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>so just something.

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Now, another thing that people talk about is gift giving

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>at different stages in a relationship. Some people feel like

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I've heard guys say I don't want to go too

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>big too early, because then the expectations are too high

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to keep on trying to like keep up, yeah, upstage

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 1>what you did previously. So, Devin, what are your thoughts

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>as far as you know? Of course, we always want

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to give thoughtful gifts, but sometimes should we be raining

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it in earlier on?

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I think if you're just leading with thoughtful, I do

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.720
<v Speaker 3>think it's smart to kind of look at the long term,

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:35.319
<v Speaker 3>which is like if I can see myself with this

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.799
<v Speaker 3>person for five years, Like can I sustain this? Because

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to love bomb, which is where you

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 3>do it all up front and then you're left kind

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 3>of like there's nothing else I can do. But I

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 3>think leave it thoughtful. Know that thoughtful doesn't have to

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 3>be super expensive. It can be, but it doesn't have

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 3>to be. And make sure you're not trying to overcompensate,

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 3>because sometimes the people who come out really hot and strong,

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 3>particularly guys, they're actually trying to like overcompensate for some

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 3>other pops wear.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Wearing.

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 2>If you're doing it.

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Genuinely to see that person happy and like to just

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 3>have joy, you're not You're not doing it to necessarily

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 3>flex on everyone else you're literally just trying to put

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 3>a smile on that other person's face. And I think

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 3>if you lead with that intenctionality, like you'll be good

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 3>every time. But that's also why being honest it's important

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 3>because if they're trying to do that for you and

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 3>they think you like this because you smiled at it,

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 3>and you hate it, it's.

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be much harder to rein in over time.

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.839
<v Speaker 4>I had a guy give me the same thing three

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 4>times in the row, and after the third one, I

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 4>was like, Okay, I don't want this again.

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.840
<v Speaker 2>But it was a different like color.

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 4>It was different colors, but it was the same gift birthday,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 4>just it was the first one was just because the

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 4>second one was Valentine's but the same thing for my birthday.

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I like this, but.

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Please give me a little work creative.

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 2>It was those flowers on the box and I'm like, because.

0:52:52.760 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 1>If it was like a different Rolex it in the market. Yeah,

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And it was like.

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 4>They got bigger and they were a different color, but

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like they last forever and I don't want to

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 4>just throw.

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>It away from you.

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I took it.

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he took it well though, because I

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 4>never got another gift from him.

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>That was the end of that. Well, at least you

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>need to get more flowers in the now. Okay, let

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this. Let's just say it's Christmas time,

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and let's say you buy your significant other and amazing gift,

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>but then find out right afterward that they were cheating

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on you.

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 2>That happened to me? Did you do I got him

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a go pro for Christmas? What's that?

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the camera?

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:46.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the little cameras and I never saw him again?

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait wait wait wait yeah, wait, okay, you got him

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 3>a gift, my gift, and then did you find out

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 3>he was cheating?

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Or like I found out? Maybe?

0:53:56.760 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 5>So my birthday is Christmas, so right, you gotta would

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 5>give your birthday birthday freaking little cat?

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>No, please, I'll tell you.

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 4>You got him the little thing that he could wear

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 4>it up here and everything he got me that he

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 4>got you that like you know what I mean with

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 4>the little rim and everything, and then he got me

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 4>like a little like bathroom body works that you buy

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.839
<v Speaker 4>your your elderly aunt at the you know what I'm

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 4>talking about?

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Want to check out? Right, okay?

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 5>And he was like, okay, great, great, great, and then

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 5>it was two years and he went out to dinner

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 5>with someone else and like didn't wish me happy, like whatever,

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, what the fuck?

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 2>And we broke up over the phone. I never saw

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 2>it again. A couple. You guys, we were together on

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and off for like eight years.

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, you see me right, and

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.279
<v Speaker 1>even worse if he was posting video from the GoPro like,

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.720
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, was the next.

0:54:59.440 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 6>Nerve.

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Listen, that's so funny because I dated a guy

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and I bought him a camcorder for his birthday and

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>then we broke up soon after. But you know what

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I did. I didn't tell him. I knew he was cheating.

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I borrowed it back and then broke up. Oh, I like,

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I still have and that camp quarder is so old

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and I still have it. But if you see on

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 1>any of my shaky videos from lip service that were

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in black and white back in the day, I was like, oh,

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and I strategically smart did not say anything until I said,

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>can I borrow the camera?

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>See? I would not have had the restraint. But that's good. Yes,

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm a capricorn.

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to say one thing about Angela she

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 4>can definitely be strategic.

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 3>That was I never gave a gift, and that happened.

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 3>But a dude in college that we were dating, we

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 3>actually lived together. At that point I found out he

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 3>was cheating. This is back on AOL and a messenger

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>like and that was a thing. So I figured out

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 3>a software. This is gonna make me sound crazy, it's fine.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I figured out a software thanks to my mother that

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 3>you can and saw that would track all the messages

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 3>that were happening.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>So I had done that when he was.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Out of town because I suspected something, so he went

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 3>to work.

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I opened the messages, saw.

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 3>That he was having conversations when I had been out

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 3>of town, like basically saying he was single.

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But we lived together.

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.240
<v Speaker 3>So that night when he was worked at the club

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>again I was in college, but that's your first. I

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 3>printed them all out. I got super cute, went to

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the club, told him he led, put him in an envelope,

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 3>told him I had forgotten something in his car, so

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I asked to borrow his keys. I went and took

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 3>his keys like I left the room. I took his

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 3>house keys off the key ring so he wouldn't be

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 3>able to get into the house. This gave him his

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 3>key ring back, pretending that nothing.

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:47.279
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of keys on it, so he

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't notice when I were handed.

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Him the envelope. He opened it there in the club.

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 3>He freaked out and tried to deny it, but it

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 3>was like right there.

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I left.

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I then went home that night, and he tried to

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 3>get in the house and was sitting in his are

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 3>crying to let me for me to let him into

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:03.839
<v Speaker 3>the house, and you get in the house, you had

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 3>to go sleep at his parents house.

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, now you can explain to your parents why why.

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>You're there for what you did.

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 2>But we're friends now, it's fine.

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You became friends with people still after like like he's

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>he was dumb, but like right, it's like you dropped

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball right, fumbled in for the rest of his

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 1>life and you really like something satisfyingly evil about still

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 1>being friends with somebody who wronged you. Yeah, because you're

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 1>successful in doing well. It's kind of the kay, you know,

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>but like like, hey, how goes it?

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Like goes it? So now you know, if Angel ever goes.

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, I'd be like with.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Him, you were both young and dunks. You're in college.

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I genuinely wish him like I care about him as

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 3>a human. But yeah, I mean I know that, like.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You were crying, and that he still watches literally.

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm fabulous, Like I know that, but I wish them

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 2>alt person.

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 3>But also I am quite proud that I held restraint

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>and didn't like I played it cool and like he

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't know until he.

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Got home that he wasn't going to.

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Be and it's so hard to not burst.

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll be calling like, oh I can't.

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I found out my ex cheated on me on his

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>birthday and he was on his way to my house

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to come get me. He left his Gmail open on

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 1>my laptop and I was going to look up like

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the restaurant we were that I was taking him to

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and I and I was like, oh, his Gmail just

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>popped up, and I was like should I look? And

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>then I said, God said yeah, because he would have

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>did that. Listen says I'm trying to show you something,

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen.

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>A lot when the sign is fine.

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And then even after that, like he was on his

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:49.439
<v Speaker 1>way it was his literally his birthday, and I was like, man,

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>do I say something today like it's his birthday? Wonder

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, I tried not to. And

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>then he called me. He was like, all right. I

0:58:58.200 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't think I'm gonna be able to

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.479
<v Speaker 1>make it. He was like, what what happened? What's the matter?

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just don't feel good. And then

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I just sent him all of the messages and and

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that was it. That was that, and that was on that,

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know, and now he's listening to Yeah, now

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh my god, I'm telling that story. I've changed.

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 1>But listen, Devin. I would love for you, and I

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:25.560
<v Speaker 1>know you're super busy. I know you have your own

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 1>show with your own friends. Okay, but we did love

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>having you up here.

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having you. Guys are amazing and it

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 2>was fun.

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You gave us such great, practical, reasonable information. But I'm

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so happy to know you're a little crazy too.

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you know my family? You know, look, keep

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it being a little crazy.

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a little unpredictab. I think them being a smige

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.800
<v Speaker 3>scared of you. Okay, I think it's healthy, just this

0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 3>smidge and not like a violent way.

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 2>But just that I can't know if she's going to

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:00.919
<v Speaker 2>go their way.

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that's I think I like to keep my

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.880
<v Speaker 3>husband on his toes. Okay, good, I tell you a

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 3>stun gun story. That's next time you work too.

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>No, but no, And I saw you the other night

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at the Tender Year and Swipe event where you gave

1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:21.200
<v Speaker 1>us a lot of great statistics and numbers. But you

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know she's not just giving us practical advice. It's actually research, right,

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>So these are real things. So make sure you check

1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 1>out the Tender Year and Swipe report so you can

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>see everything from the lingo to the cities people moving

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 1>places to date to because that one was wrong. I

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know who, but you know, there's not a lot

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of capricorns, so I can understand why numbers wise that

1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out in our favor.

1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatever makes them feel. We support support.

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.520
<v Speaker 1>You, but I do really appreciate you. I love what

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you do, and we've worked together years and years and

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:57.720
<v Speaker 1>years and years ago in the past, but I know

1:00:57.760 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll be doing a lot more.

1:00:58.680 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 2>So sure.

1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I love seeing you in and you guys are all

1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.640
<v Speaker 3>amazing and this podcast is so fun, so yeah, definitely

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 3>watching a fan.

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And Jordan's once some definitely wants to work on like

1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:10.280
<v Speaker 1>her profile, so.

1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and any potentially men that you want to throw.

1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm available. Okay, we teach you the database. Yeah,

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.640
<v Speaker 3>but you definitely should. We'll look at your we'll look

1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:23.400
<v Speaker 3>at your profile. You definitely should be on Tinder. And

1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you travel a lot, don't you. You know Tinder has

1:01:25.640 --> 1:01:29.360
<v Speaker 3>a passport feature. I'm just saying, and dating in America

1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:31.960
<v Speaker 3>is not necessarily the same as it is in other

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:37.200
<v Speaker 3>countries and cultures, like, so you set that passport feature

1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:39.160
<v Speaker 3>to be at another country that you're in, which means,

1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:41.240
<v Speaker 3>from the comfort of your couch, you can be swiping

1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and matching with quts in other areas like in Turkey.

1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Given show, just give them all And I'm gonna I'm

1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:54.720
<v Speaker 4>going to get on it.

1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am going to.

1:01:58.320 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:01.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, this would be an amazing experiment for us

1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to kind of track what's going on.

1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it.

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I've never been on a dating I love it ever,

1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I love it and look and just like, I just

1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 3>want to preface it too, because like there's literally millions

1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:13.480
<v Speaker 3>of people on dating apps, right, like hundreds of millions

1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:17.720
<v Speaker 3>of people. So just like there are thousands, thousands of restaurants,

1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:19.400
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna like them all. And that's okay, but

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.600
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean eating is bad. Right, you don't go, oh,

1:02:21.640 --> 1:02:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm never eating again.

1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Literally you you don't rule.

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.040
<v Speaker 3>It out because you know there were a couple bad,

1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:37.320
<v Speaker 3>so like just go in with that mindset though, but

1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:39.600
<v Speaker 3>know that they're just like your favorite, Like there's some

1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:41.600
<v Speaker 3>really good ones and there are still some really good

1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.880
<v Speaker 3>people that have a lot going for them that are.

1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:46.880
<v Speaker 1>On and if nothing else, you'll get some great females.

1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>And they say Chick fil A is.

1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:56.120
<v Speaker 3>The number one, number one. Yet don't go there, Please don't,

1:02:56.840 --> 1:02:58.320
<v Speaker 3>don't don't go there.

1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I would be impressed. Okay, all right, all right, well

1:03:01.400 --> 1:03:03.240
<v Speaker 1>thank you so long. I'm totally kidding.

1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:07.320
<v Speaker 3>We already heard the things that made her mad, like

1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:09.280
<v Speaker 3>a karaoke bar and singing thong song.

1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Too well, I think like you sing and do karaoke,

1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.560
<v Speaker 1>especially on our first day, that's so whacked. So if

1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we can't sing, then that's perfect.

1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 6>You don't like people that can sing and do karaoke, period,

1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:22.480
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't matter for it's the first day, Like why that?

1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she just like it at all.

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Go get your deal, you know what I mean. I

1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:26.800
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be.

1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Part of that.

1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Get a deal Tomato, tomato being here and trying to

1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:42.480
<v Speaker 3>like because it's like trying to show up, you know

1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:43.120
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Go sing on a cruise.

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