1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: What's dev' slip service. I'm answer like, yee, I'm JJ Maguire, 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm Jordie Jor, I'm Jazz and Brand, and I'm Devin 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: simooney Man. This is the perfect time of the year 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: for this because Devin Simone who is a match maker, 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: relationship expert, all of the things you know her from TV. Also, 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: we're so honored to have you here because this is 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: a stressful time for some people when it comes to 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: relationships and dating. So for clarity, who hear a single 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: okay two of. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Us, Yeah, we need help. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: And Devin and we do want to say congratulations because 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I know you've been married for how long now. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Like about a year and a half? 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: Designed for myself. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes people try to discredit, like if you're 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: not married, they'd be like, oh, how are you offering? 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, how is that for you? Because people tend to. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: They do do that. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: And I say, you know, no one can help you 21 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: get the ring better than I can, because I've got 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: it multiple times your house. 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: But I wanted it to be the right person. 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: So I waited to actually get married and walk down 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: the aisle with the right person. And I waited for 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: my perfect person. But I think you know they're they're 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: good dating experts and relationship experts who were just knowledgeable 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: because we geek out on it. 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: Like honestly, I. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: Love learning why we connect with certain people, how it 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: changes every year. Like to me, that's just always been fascinating. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: So don't rule someone out just because they're single. But look, 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: if they haven't been able to hold down a relationship 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: for like decades, I might side eye them and not 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: take their advice. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well so Gigi you're single now, yes, still, 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Gigi's been through a lot too, she's gotten a well. 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was engaged. We were engaged. 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: We did see the jeweler, but I never got the ring. 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: It only lasted sixty five days. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: Okay, the relationship okay, so it was like fire, very 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: like Verry fat can happen. 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: It's just as fast as that ended. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: What do you what are your thoughts about that, Devin? 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: If you think about somebody meeting someone, some people will 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: believe in love at first sight. Right, And like Gigi 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: got engaged very quickly, like three days she came like 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: I saw her, and then the next time I saw her, 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: she was engaged to somebody we'd never heard of. That 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: it was wild, But what do you think about that, 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Like if someone comes to you like I met this person. 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Three days later they're like, we're getting married. 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: I think it's it's totally fine to have all the 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: feelings but still take your time to actually move forward, 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: which obviously you did and you saw some things. 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: That ultimately you were like, yeah, I. 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Say, of the sparks, because sparks can lead to fire damage, 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: Like people are looking for that, like. 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: Oh, we felt it right away. 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the slow burn is good too, Like that's 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: something that has longevity, so slow don't rule that out. 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the lesson that I did learn. 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, girl, that was cute and all, but 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: take your time because it wasn't clearly wasn't right. 65 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: This is a year ago. 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's fun too, Like feeling like you just 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: got head over heels into something. Maybe you're also getting 68 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: over something else, and that can also get us to 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: feel like this is you know, it's like a replacement situation. 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm enjoying being single for the most part, but I 71 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: am start. 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Getting a little like bored. 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to use the word lonely because 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: you know, ain't nobody going to me? 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: You can call someone. 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm bored, like I want you know, I 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: want like the field. 78 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: But do you are you bored? 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Like you want to winter cuddle buddy, you know someone 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: that's just kind of like fun and that you to 81 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: keep you occupied now or you like, I'm open because 82 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: I want something. 83 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: I want to I want to date with the purpose. 84 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I want to date with like 85 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: this is really going to probably end up in marriage. Okay, 86 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: So then say that, don't stand bored because even putting 87 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: that energy out there, it's like people who are going 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: to come and just occupy your time and not add 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: value to your time. 90 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Okay, already an I want three boyfriends a roster. I 91 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: want a roster. Three is good. 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: Numbers, like, just to balance me out a little bit. 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: Because I was celibate for two years, so I wasn't dating. 94 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't really doing anything for a while two years basically, And. 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: What led to that chort or like I was in. 96 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: A situationship and I felt like I kept finding myself 97 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: in situations where I was using my body in a 98 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: way that didn't feel good to me, and so I 99 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: was like, you know what, let me just cut the 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: shit out and take a little breather and see what. 101 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: I've never really been that. 102 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 5: Thoughty, I like that word. 103 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: It has never really been my thing. 104 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: And so that's what I realized about myself, is that 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: I get emotionally attached. 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes I could be a savage, but that's kind of 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: where I'm at now. 108 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I want diverse, but with the same people. 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to be out here Thoughty. 110 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, a little rotation. Yeah, And that's 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: totally valid too. 113 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: And I think the best step is, like for anyone, 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: recognizing where you are and what you're looking for and 115 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: being clear about that. Something that so Tinder just did 116 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: their year in swipe right and one of the things 117 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: that they saw even in like dating bios we're calling 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: it loud looking but sort of looking for was the 119 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: top ranked thing that was mentioned in profiles this year 120 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: versus say last year, where people are being clear about 121 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: what this is what I'm looking for, whether it's you know, 122 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: I kind of want a roster, I'm looking for something 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: long term, even if it's like I'm in a place 124 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: that I'm not quite sure. They're just being communicative about 125 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: that versus a year ago where situationships and ambiguity and 126 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: being like I don't really know what I want was 127 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: the thing. 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Being clear? Yeah, it's like the first step. 129 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes people used to always say things like, oh, well, 130 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, it'll just find you, or if you're looking 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: for it, it won't happen. People used to say, I 132 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's an old school type of thing, because 133 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: now I always felt like dating, if you really know 134 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: what you want and your intentional it is like looking 135 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: for a. 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: Job, that's what. 137 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you that. Yeah, it's like I gotta 138 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: like really be clear these You gotta leave the house 139 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: and look online. Dating is the same thing as like 140 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: applying for jobs, and you might get some rejections. You 141 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: might find some jobs, go on these interviews it doesn't 142 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: work out, or you might go and get hired. 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah literally, or you might do hi, you might hire somebody. 144 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: Never been on a dating. 145 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: It, really I think you should try. I think you 146 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: would love it. 147 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean seeking arrangements, but they don't really count. That's 148 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: a dating app. It can be I don't find anybody 149 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: at the time. 150 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: What about being intentional about that like, I just want 151 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: somebody with a lot of money to take care of me. 152 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: I mean again, be intentional, know yourself, know thyself, be true, 153 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: and be honest about it. 154 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: And I think that's totally valid and fine. 155 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: And then you can move to move in a direction 156 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: because you looking for intinctionality right now, since that's different 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: than Jeordie wanting a roster, you're gonna move a little 158 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: bit differently and how you're evaluating people and dating people. 159 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: So it's also why it's important to kind of like 160 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: speak it out loud and really know, like, all right, 161 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: this is where we are, and if it changes in 162 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: terms of what you want, that's totally okay too. But 163 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: fifty percent of new relationships they just we actually I 164 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: was just speaking with a clinical researcher, clinical psychologist, and 165 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: they found that fifty percent of relationships now begin online. 166 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: Like that it is, and people who are really imbursed 167 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: out using online Like no one's still using a rotary phone, 168 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: being like ah man, those cell phones, that technology, you'd 169 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: look at them like what like where you what? Ha? 170 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: So online dating is the same thing. 171 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it has to only be that people are 172 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: still meeting in person, but opening yourself up to that 173 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: also opens up a whole new world of possibilities. 174 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: Right to meet your husband online. 175 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Very gay period. 176 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: All the engagements came from online, So I'm just saying, well, 177 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: there's three So what made you feel like? 178 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Okay? Like even in his profile, what made you say 179 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll go out with him? 180 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 6: Ha? 181 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: Okay? 182 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: So so he and I met online, probably like in 183 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, So I don't know what was the math 184 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: like seven years ago, and I think it was what 185 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: he wrote was kind of witty, like funny. He was 186 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: cute in his photos, but guys also take weird photos 187 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: online too, and he's a creative advertising so even now, 188 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: so like once we reconnected an explant second, I like 189 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: went through his profile just for fun and I was like, ew, 190 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: I never would have swiped on this now, like your 191 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: photos are awful. So but he had at least like 192 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: two presentable ones that I was a good photo just 193 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: for people. Listen to your face a guy, especially for 194 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: men or women out at a social function is good. 195 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: All of them. 196 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: Can't be with your friends, but at least one maybe 197 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: where you're dressed, you're at a wedding, you were at 198 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: a friend's didn't birthday dinner or something like that with 199 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: good lighting, that's a good one. A solo shot outdoors, 200 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: just because outdoor lighting is the best natural lighting, and 201 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: studies show that that tends to do really well, like 202 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: with a lot of blue background. If you have pets, 203 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: or like a particular hobby or activity, you like one 204 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: photo that shows you doing that. You don't have to 205 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: be dulled up in it, but it just shows because 206 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: what you're doing is you're filling in the blanks with 207 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: your photos, right, Like, there's only so much you can 208 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: write on your profile. So instead of being like I 209 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: like to try things and I like animals, show a 210 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 3: picture of you with animals, or show a picture of you, 211 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: you know, doing painting or hiking or doing whatever the 212 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: thing is, and make sure you're like at least laughing 213 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: in one or something like just that you don't take 214 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: yourself so sick of me. 215 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: I want you to do an audit of my I 216 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: would eating okay, And you say it doesn't really say anything. 217 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm really bad at bio. 218 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: Wait, it isn't anything at all. Hold on, let me 219 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: see she pulls that up. Let me see what's going. 220 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So whilst he's looking at that. What's some advice 221 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: you would give for somebody's bio. 222 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: There's no ex uses. Now. 223 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: First of all, there should be one chat GPT is 224 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: free claude AI, which I prefer. It's more conversational. You 225 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: can also use for free. You can put in some 226 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: bullet points about yourself and say, I and my name 227 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: is blah blah blah. I am thirty six, I live here, 228 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: I am trying to track this, this and this. 229 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: I like, uh, you know dogs, I work in radio. 230 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: I da da da. My friends describe me of this. 231 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: Write me a compelling, short, witty bio, give me some options, 232 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: and then it'll keep doing. You can even pull some 233 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: of your favorite lines from each of the options it 234 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: gives you and create to customize. 235 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: But you don't have to do any of. 236 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: The thinking, Okay, you're doing it's really that. 237 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: Don't worry. I'm seeing I'm seeing. 238 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: It all by doing it. It's so cute and dope. 239 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I think any guy would be so excited to end 240 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: up on a date with Jordan. 241 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: You would think so. 242 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: So it says my job obviously, because you have to 243 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: put that in there, and then it just says about 244 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: you for your job. It says DJ, nonprofit co founder, 245 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: a music loving potato enthusiast, and then it says I'm 246 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: a straight woman interested in women and men, though I'd love. 247 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: To connect with anyone because it has both men and women. 248 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: Did you guys feel confused by what she? I feel 249 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: like it was. 250 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know she wanted to date a potato. 251 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean that it was the love of my life. 252 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: So I didn't based. I didn't. 253 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: It didn't match to me what you what you like, 254 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: who you are yea, who you are, and what you 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 6: say and then what you're looking for? 256 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: To me, it didn't okay, how how would I like? 257 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: What should I shift? I actually liked your first line 258 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: a lot. 259 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. And even if it does, 260 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: that part doesn't make sense. It stops you in your potato. 261 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: And those are all great first line, like for people 262 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: thinking what would I say to that? 263 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: That's those are all first lines. 264 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: It was the rest that got confusing, of like, you 265 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: literally contradict yourself because you go out a straight woman 266 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: but looking to meet anyone and so and in what 267 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: content and what capacity? Like, all of that starts to 268 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: get confusing. So I focus on one other thing about 269 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: you that is that really does show or reflect kind 270 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: of you or your personality. 271 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: So leave the potato line. I think it's funny. 272 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: But then just something about like, you know, passionate Like 273 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: you mentioned you have a nonprofit, so like passionate about 274 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: you know, whatever the causes or enjoy doing X. And 275 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: then write something that gets you excited in a potential 276 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: like partner or rostermate. So be like bonus points if 277 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: you know how to blank, or if you're good at this, or. 278 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: You know, you might catch my eye if you do that. 279 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: So you're kind of like teased dangling a little bit 280 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: so that they can come for it. 281 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, got it perfect? 282 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: We like that not yeah, because and I think there's 283 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: so many things that you know, you're very close to 284 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: your father. I think that's you know, that's always a bonus. 285 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I think it matters a lot how people interact with 286 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: like family and you know, so I always look at 287 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: that as a plus if somebody I love when people 288 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: have like great relationships with you know, I always think 289 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: it's a red flag if they don't. 290 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: Right. 291 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: We were talking about this today, which is funny on 292 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: the Today Show about if that's a flag or not. 293 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: I agree it's always better when they're close with their family. 294 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: But I do think you have to make space for 295 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: the fact that not everyone grew up with a supporting, 296 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: a supportive or loving you know, and so and as 297 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: we move into a place of personal growth and we 298 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: get older, and I feel like when we were younger 299 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: in our parents' generations, there's a little bit of toxicity 300 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: where it's like you stick beside. 301 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Them no matter what happened. 302 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: And now we've come to a place that like, I 303 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: can love you, but I may need to do so 304 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: from a distance if you weren't healthy for me. So 305 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: be careful and using a broad brush to like for 306 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 3: anyone like fine, doubt the why behind maybe why they 307 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: have the dynamic with their family, because yeah, because my. 308 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Mom used to be like, the first time I heard 309 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: your father yeo was the day we got married. And 310 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: then she was like, we would the whole family when 311 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: we would come there, they would all be like, oh, man, 312 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: here he comes. So it always was kind of something 313 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: that's stuck in my head, you know, when she did 314 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: say that, sorry, Dad, I know he listens. Now I 315 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: want to ask you some other questions. Okay, so how 316 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: do you know when it's time to give someone a chance, 317 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: even though they may have had a rocky pass, Like 318 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: we all know the person who Maybe people are like, oh, 319 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: he was a cheater, He's always going to be a cheater. 320 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you start dating somebody and somebody sends you a 321 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: message like, girl, he used to date my friend and 322 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: he was, you know, awful. Right, So what do you 323 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: do in that case, because you do want to make 324 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: sure you have your guard up a little. But at 325 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the same time, you can't take somebody else's experience, you know, 326 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: and run with that. But then maybe you're ignoring something 327 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: that could really be like a we try to tell 328 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: you because we see it happen all the time. 329 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. 330 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: One thing I'd say is probably look at look at 331 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: the signs outside of you. Right, So if they're saying 332 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: they're changed person, how are they moving through the world, 333 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: just in how they treat women? For example, in general, 334 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: do they seem like they're a respectful person consistently, not 335 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: only to the woman they're trying to woo in that moment, 336 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: but like in general, that's a good sign. Ask him 337 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: about ask him about his past relationships, be like, what 338 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: did you learn from that relationship because that helps. You're 339 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: now giving him all the tools to see where he 340 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: paces places the blame what he says about it. You know, 341 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: it's not like, well why didn't you work out with her? 342 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: Why'd you cheat on her? It's just what did you learn? 343 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: And if he's like, well, she did this, and she 344 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: did that, and she did this, and there's nobility accountability, 345 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: like but if he's like, you know what, back then, 346 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: I wasn't really sure because for probably most of us here, 347 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: there's someone in our past who be like, they're terrible, 348 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like they broke my heart, 349 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: they did this, or they whatever, And we had our 350 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: reasons for doing what we did, so it doesn't necessarily 351 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: make us bad. 352 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily make this other person bad. 353 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: But if they if they keep, if the way that 354 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: they speak and the way that they move outside of 355 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: how they are directly towards you is still consistent with 356 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: all the negativity you're hearing, then they probably haven't outgrown that, 357 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: and you probably you know, should look but not touched now. 358 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: This year is wipe list in particular. Jordan and I 359 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: have a really big issue, yes with something on this list. 360 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: All right, So the years wipe is basically tender talking 361 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: about the dating transfer twenty twenty four, what's ahead for 362 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? Now one part of this seed all 363 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: over your face and said the most attractive users star 364 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: signs in twenty twenty four to men, and for some 365 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: reason for men and women, Capricorn was last on the list. 366 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: We were the bottom of every zodiocracy. 367 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Everything else was kind of on point. But then we 368 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: saw that and it made us question. 369 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: This wholes. 370 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: It was given before us. Know you were and enough 371 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: gem and I was most attractive two men. We're crazy. 372 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: I like that apparently, But how important is and we're 373 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: not placing no importance on this particular list, but how 374 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: important do you think astrology is? And have you been 375 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: a person Devin who has been like, okay, well, oh no, 376 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't date that sign. 377 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: I've never intentionally said I don't date a sign, but 378 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: I will say in all my dating history, when I 379 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: started to look at it, there were a lot of 380 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: clusters of similar sign like a lot of people born 381 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: within the same like two or three weeks here and 382 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 3: the same, never intentionally, so there's got to be something 383 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: around what you're like drawn to. Now you know those persons. 384 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: People worked out and I ended up marrying a Gemini. 385 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: And I had been warned about what a Gemini means. 386 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: It's going on wars. And you know, while I think 387 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 3: that he has, like there's multiple sides to him just 388 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: in terms of like his interests, like he can you know, uh, 389 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 3: there's a lot that he can do. You can kind 390 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: of take him anywhere. He's an adaptable person. 391 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: He's not he's you know, he's pretty straight. I'm totally 392 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: crazier than he is. And that's how people. 393 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: But I never dated a Gemini before him and that 394 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: and he was like, he's my person through and through. 395 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: That seems to be the cluster of what I've dated 396 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: as a Gemini, like most of my significant relationships have been. 397 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: So maybe move away from the like experiment with out 398 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: of the cluster. 399 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Get yourself a Scorpio or something wild, maybe a virgo. 400 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: I've had that I really liked. 401 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: The guy on the top of my list right now 402 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: is just. 403 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: Said to terrorists, the terrorists, but you know there's fiance, 404 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: so you try to move out your comfort zone. 405 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: But you know, this Capricorn thing is still really. 406 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: Traveling with these Listen, this is just data, So this 407 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: isn't even like, oh this is That's one of the 408 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 3: best things about tender right. 409 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: It's the largest eating from the world, so the data 410 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: is speaking. Halpercorn is the most rare sign. So maybe 411 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: it's just because. 412 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: There's yeah that you know. 413 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: That's probably why I'm glad you guys found a way 414 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: all right now. 415 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: Another thing we wanted to ask about is unique dates. 416 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: We were talking about this before you got here, and 417 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: I know there are some things on here. Kiss met right, 418 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: kiss met, So it's like destiny or face spontanatey. We 419 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: wanted to ask about in this room, what has been 420 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: the most unique spontaneous date that you've ever been on 421 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: that you can think of off the top of your head. 422 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: Maybe it did or it didn't work out, but it's 423 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: still as cute because I think people are always looking 424 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: for ideas too, something different to do. What about Let's 425 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: start with your Devin. 426 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Let's see my interesting because I need it. I've lived 427 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: lives before my married life, and I think one of 428 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: them is like hopped on a plane to Toronto, just 429 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: like like pack a bag, let's go spent the weekend there, 430 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: had a really great time. It was my first time, 431 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: I was like twenty one, so it was my first 432 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: time going to Toronto and then flew back the next 433 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 3: day and it was just like a vibe. And then 434 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: that same person we like went to hopped on a 435 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: plane to Barbados, and then we crashed a wedding that 436 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: Katy Perry was performing at. 437 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and it was, you know, a good question. 438 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was at the time, it 439 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: was good. 440 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: Well, so we crashed the know weren't invited to the wedding, 441 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 3: but it was his like people he knew were working it, 442 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: like were the security for it. However, I was recognized 443 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: as not being on the guest list. I think I 444 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: got too close to the stage and then at a 445 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 3: s we had to dip out of the wedding before 446 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: it was like. 447 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I don't feel like I know this 448 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: not a hell of a performance. 449 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: It was great. 450 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: You no, but the whole travel, like the spontaneous travel 451 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: is definitely Gemini energy. 452 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: But that's what I wanted from one of my boyfriends. 453 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: But what have you had, Jodie, Joe hasn't been your 454 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: most unique spontaneous date. 455 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 456 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: I think the bathhouse one is probably It's a unique 457 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: date I went on that I can think of clearly. 458 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: None of the other ones were noticeable because I don't 459 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: even remember. 460 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was That. 461 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: Was vibe because you're kind of really just literally stripped 462 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 5: down and just no makeup, just raw and like there's 463 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: no you're not allowed to have your. 464 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: Phone, so you really are just dialed in and it's 465 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: pretty intimate. Yeah, so that was That was good. It 466 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: was fun. 467 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you jazzy jazz Jazmine brand I. 468 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: Think salsa dancing. This guy was dating. 469 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: We were really Yeah, this guy, I was in my twenties. 470 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 6: This guy we went, he took me sausa dancing. He 471 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 6: was like a regular black dude too. It was fun. 472 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was dance and it was fun. 473 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: It's different. 474 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: That's something that you would think of normally. 475 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 4: What about I don't know if this really counts as 476 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: a date, but I met a guy at the airport 477 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 4: and we ended up being on the same flight as 478 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: that was delayed, and we like had lunch while we. 479 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's cute, as that's exactly it's like leaning into 480 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: the just kind of like we're here. It's it's literally 481 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: like the Hallmark movie that people say that they want 482 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: or like the meet cute. It's like leaning into the 483 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: moment and just recognizing, like being spontaneous. 484 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: So that's exactly what that's cute. 485 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: It made it like a fun delay. 486 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Yeah, and we ended up going out 487 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: after that. 488 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: It didn't really go anywhere, but but that's like creating opportunity, 489 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: that's exactly. 490 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 491 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a few good ones. I remember one 492 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: guy took me horseback riding and to eat on the 493 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: beach in New Jersey, like on our first date, which 494 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: was nice because it's not something I would have especially, 495 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: and they look like a restaurant on the beach and 496 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: I was like, this is fun, cute, easy, and it was, 497 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, and then we saying duets the whole way 498 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: back from the beach in the car. 499 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: It was. 500 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: That I want to ask, what would make you never 501 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: go out with somebody again? Like the day was that 502 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: bad that you were like. 503 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: Needing rude to like the servertender. 504 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: Rude or too frugal, too frugal, Yeah, like if you 505 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: were a bad tipper, But how do you know. 506 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: Because you can't check the tip right like sometimes you could. 507 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 6: Sometimes I'm just hoping that he was a good tipper, 508 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 6: because it's hard. 509 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes what I like to do if I'm not 510 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: sure is when they walk away, I throw some cash 511 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: on the table, just to leave a little extra just 512 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: in case, because I don't be knowing you don't cover 513 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: your fass. Yeah, and I also like tip really nice 514 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: and so I always like to do that just because 515 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: or I like to say I'll leave the tip. That 516 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: way I get to see the bill and lead the tip, 517 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: and then I feel more comfortable. No, I like that. 518 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: I like that i'll leave the tip. 519 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: I like that I'm not paying for anythingstand that fair fifty. 520 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm leaving immediately. I'm not even sitting down. 521 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing that. I'm actually saying, yeah, I 522 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: don't fifty fifty. But I might be like, well, I'll 523 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: leave the tip just because I also like really over 524 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: tip and so, and I don't know that everyone does that, 525 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: and I think some people aren't also good at the math. 526 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: I know a lot of times it'll say it on there, 527 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: but sometimes people don't be knowing, Like. 528 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: You're trying to do that real quick, and it's dark 529 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: in their teeth and you're trying to right right. Yeah, Yeah, 530 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: I think anyone who's expecting for first dates, second date. 531 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: If you're looking if you asked the person out on 532 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: the date and then you're looking at them to go 533 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: into their wallet, that's a note for me. 534 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: But if you're a woman and you ask the guy out. 535 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: I still think he should be trying to. 536 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, I think you know, you can expect, 537 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: and I think like, look after like the third day, 538 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: I think it's and things are going well. I think 539 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: it's great for her to step up and be like, 540 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: let me get this one. Let me whether it's pay 541 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: for the cabs, whether it's pay for the activity. 542 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Because because it goes a long way. 543 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: Look, i'm gonna tell you how to get a roster, 544 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 3: tell me and I'm gonna tell you how to get 545 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: it so that every ring that comes your way gets 546 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: bigger each time. 547 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: Oh right, Okay, part of that goes even. 548 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: Dudes with a ton of money, Dudes with a ton 549 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: of money but have self worth are going to be 550 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: looking for the woman who feels like she wants to 551 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: step up as a partner. So it doesn't mean they're 552 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: expecting her to be fifty to fifty, but they are 553 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: keeping like keeping tally of does she expect me to 554 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: do everything, and then you get one of two things. 555 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: The dude with self worth will leave or the dude 556 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: who's looking for an imbalance to power will stay. And 557 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: you don't really want that, so you contributing on date three, 558 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: even if it's just like the cab fair, Like we know, 559 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: dinner's gonna cost any more than the cab fair, but 560 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: it's showing that you're like appreciative, that you aren't looking 561 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: to solely reliance when else and it just goes so 562 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: far and like them than wanting to do ten more 563 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: because in their mind they're like, okay, cool, she's not 564 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: looking to just take advantage of me, like she genuinely likes. 565 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 5: I feel like, I don't know if I'm ever going 566 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: to get to the point where the date thing paying 567 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 5: for it. But I'm like no, no, no, yeah, I'm just 568 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: more of. 569 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: A gift giver. 570 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 5: So I show my appreciation if, like on the first date, 571 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 5: you mentioned like a book or something like I'll bring 572 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 5: you the book, okay, or I've gotten men's like nice 573 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 5: ties or things like that, I show gratitude, and I'm 574 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: like I was born on Christmas, so yes, naturally, but 575 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 5: I don't know to me even friends wise, like if 576 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: I know I have more money than someone and we're 577 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 5: out to dinner, like I'm going to take care of it, right, 578 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 5: just know, just you don't like, well, I think it's 579 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: like a close relationships relationship. I know that reversed biology 580 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: when earlier let's go ahead, you when you do a 581 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 5: little something small so they could do something bigger return. 582 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 6: And I was telling Angela I went on a date 583 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 6: at one point with this guy that had a lot 584 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 6: of money, and first we went to the movies and 585 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm gonna go get his drinks or whatever, 586 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 6: because I you know whatever he goes down, and so. 587 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: We went to dinner. 588 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 6: We did stuff after that, but he was like saying, like, 589 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: no girls ever got me drinks before and made him 590 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 6: do his caked up and he was like I just 591 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: I said, well what I said, I was thirsty, Like 592 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 6: you know what am I to do? He's like, I 593 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: was like, what do women do? He's like they wait 594 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 6: for me to give him a card or something, and 595 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 6: he was like that's never happened to me, like and 596 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: I was just like, oh, it's. 597 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Like that was a big deal for him. 598 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: Obviously he had it and we had dinner, and he 599 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 6: spent way more, but it was like a big deal 600 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 6: for him because I guess women. 601 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: They have a lot of exactly and I get it 602 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: to a little thing, and I get you have your 603 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: way of doing things, but be careful letting the way 604 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: that you been doing things keep you stuck from like 605 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: advancing to other things, because she's even corroborating. 606 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: Like do because that does not happen. 607 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: And it may be a dude who's like even as 608 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: thoughtful as the gift is, I don't need more stuff 609 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: in my apartment in order or like I don't need more, 610 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: but you just showing that like in that moment, Oh, 611 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: I got here a little early. I got us a 612 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: round of drink, and you close out that tab, like 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: just get the one round to drink and close it out. 614 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: But just that I'm telling you creates a lifetime, can 615 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: create a lifetime of investment where they're just like cool. 616 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 2: I do for her. 617 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: I want to do for her because I feel like 618 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: she's not trying to use And. 619 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: I also feel like it lets them know you got 620 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: it too, like like I could take I got. 621 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: This, and it takes away that balance of power thing 622 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: right where it's like I don't have to spend it, 623 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: but I got it. 624 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Right right, So whatever other red flags for you guys, rudeness, 625 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: not tipping, what else? I had a guy on a 626 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: first date. He took me out and we went to 627 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: a really nice best staurant. But then he wanted to 628 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: go do karaoke. But he could sing. For real, you 629 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: don't like that, so it's like peppe, Yeah, well, first 630 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: karaokees for people who can't sing that it's literally held 631 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: a rap song. So look, So he was up there 632 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: and it was so funny because like we were in 633 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Koreatown and so where they have like a bunch of 634 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: karaoke places, and so people were like watching him perform. 635 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I was like, so then he asked me to pick 636 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: a song, so I made him do thong song because 637 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: I thought it would just be funny, and he was, 638 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: for real like she's got pup okay, yeah that way. 639 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: So I was like irritated by that. But the thing 640 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: that I really didn't like was he had a he 641 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: had like a nice car, and he was so pressed 642 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: about where he was going to park his car. Like 643 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: first he parked and then he was like walking around 644 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: the back of the car, like this car too close 645 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: to mine. I don't know, I don't want to the 646 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: car to a bigger spot. And I'll say this is ridiculous. Yeah, 647 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: because the way I am in my car, I'm like, 648 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna get sketched up. I mean yeah. That kind 649 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: of made me feel I was just kind of irritated. 650 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: And then he sent me a long email like why 651 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: are you not you know, because I didn't communicate email. 652 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: But it was only one day. 653 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Okay, your voice. 654 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 6: Was crazy to me be like what did this say? 655 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: I can't even read along, Like what did it say? 656 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I'd been like, jasmon, look at this? What did he said? Wow? 657 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: I had. 658 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: I went on a date with a guy. 659 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: He was really frugal, which was unattractive, but also he 660 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 6: would park his car and places that were legal. He 661 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 6: take a ticket out and put it on his. 662 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: That's a very New York things. 663 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: I didn't like that. And then he was on your 664 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: own time. 665 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 6: And he went to the super fun super he went 666 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 6: to the super cheap gas station. 667 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: And it was a turn off to me, like wait, wait, 668 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: what do you mean? Like you know, okay, I live 669 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: in d C. 670 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 6: Like you know, like some of the you know, that 671 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 6: do you guys have gas stations you can only pay cash. 672 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 6: This was like years ago, like like really cheat, he 673 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 6: had a nice car. It was just and I was 674 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 6: just like, why are you going to this? It was 675 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 6: kind of off brand sort of it bothered me. It 676 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 6: was a combination. And then also the last thing after that, 677 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 6: I was done, like I didn't want to talk anymore. 678 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 6: He kept texting me and then I wouldn't respond, and 679 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 6: then he sent me an unsolicited dick pic and I 680 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 6: remember I remember it being all these clothes around in the. 681 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Background like clean up. Yeah, it was just it. 682 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 5: Was just a yeah, but it was so like you 683 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 5: don't whatt mean more? 684 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: Let me show you by dick. 685 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Like feet in the picture as well. 686 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 687 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna make you be like, okay, I must the 688 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: work for before I was like, did shave it was? 689 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: It was? It was I'm not gonna lie. It was 690 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: a decent dick. 691 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: It was just take some close up. If you have 692 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: a really bad first date but you like the person, like, 693 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: let's just say you kind of mess it up, like 694 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: maybe you got messy, sloppy, drunk, embarrass yourself. Is there 695 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: a way to recover what advice would you give for that, 696 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Devin Simone, Let's just say I was drunk, I threw up, 697 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: I embarrassed myself, I cursed him out, but I still 698 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: like him. 699 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, i'd say if he was smart, he probably 700 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: be like no, and not because you're not amazing, but 701 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: just this stage of where we are, that. 702 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Is a big red flag. But if you really want 703 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: to try it would. 704 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Like whatever that other person's communication style is, because it's 705 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: different for different people. So like you, guys don't like 706 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: long text, Some people prefer text. Some people like a 707 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: voice note, some people like a phone call. So meet 708 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: them wherever they are are, not literally, but you know, 709 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: send them the kind of communication that they like, and 710 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: just say, look, I'd love to do over. 711 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not usually like that one. I don't know. 712 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: You can kind of make a joke if you want to, 713 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: like I heard the moon was purple yesterday and I 714 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: don't know, like, I am so sorry. 715 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: I would love to. 716 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Take it's on brand. 717 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: And then and then just be respectful of how long 718 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: it takes them respond, whether or not they respond. 719 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, whatever it is. 720 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: And if they don't send a message, fuck you. 721 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: Anyone. If they don't respond. 722 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Dding I was wondering, can something survive that? I know 723 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: somebody that went on a date with somebody New Year's 724 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: Eve and then got so drunk that she ended up 725 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: at his house and he's still lived with his mom 726 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: and she was shiitting and throwing up in the bathroom 727 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's my I was like, is she okay? 728 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 3: Now? 729 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: He was to do that for her? I was like, dances, 730 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: you messed up? 731 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: But why was he living with his mom? 732 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: We were younger and maybe like early twenties. It still 733 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: was kind of like, why are you still it? But 734 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: you know New York? You know, yeah, yeah, that's New 735 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: York his mom. I guess she seemed nice if she was, 736 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, checking on her yeaheah, Okay, you wake up? 737 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Like where am I? What happened last night? All right? 738 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: Now? 739 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: Another thing we want to talk about is what if 740 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: you meet somebody and or your friend meets somebody they're dating, 741 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: but that person did go out with you years ago. 742 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: Let's say it didn't go anywhere, but let's just say 743 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: me and Jasmine, Right, Jasmine meets somebody, starts dating him, 744 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, ooh, I did like to him, yeah, 745 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: three years ago and you know, nothing really happened. Should 746 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: I tell her? 747 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's your close friend. I think you should 748 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: be honest about it. Yeah, I think that you should 749 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: tell your close friends. 750 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: Would that make you feel weird? Jazzmin, Like, would you 751 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: be like I can't go up? 752 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would make me feel weird because then. 753 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: It kind of feels like I don't want to block 754 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: what she has going. 755 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: But would you rather know or rather know? 756 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 6: But I probably I wouldn't If I knew that, I 757 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 6: was like, oh, I don't want to talk to him 758 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 6: man like. 759 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: Right, but you don't want to like get further down 760 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: the line. 761 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: I rather just forgetting the altar and you see your 762 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: photo or something. 763 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: It was like, well, you. 764 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 6: Know, I also feel like it depends on your relationship 765 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 6: with Like if I wouldn't tell her because I don't know, 766 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 6: we're no, we're not close, I would I'll tell her. 767 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't you know what I mean? 768 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 6: If with someone I'm not close with, I would just 769 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 6: buy my business. 770 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 771 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Like m. 772 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: But if there wasn't a date and there was just 773 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: like some flirting in the d MS or him just 774 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: you know, trying to. 775 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: Like he didn't physically ever go out right, Yeah, if 776 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: it had, if it had stopped, like I just feel 777 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: it out, I wouldn't necessarily be proactive in sharing that info. 778 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: But if it ever felt like it was relevant, or 779 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: if it was like in the last six months, you know, 780 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: like hella recent versus like two years ago, he slid 781 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: in my DMS, like whatever else. I think it was 782 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: two years ago, saything, unless it explicitly came up somehow, 783 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: But if it was like, oh, three weeks ago, he 784 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: had just been like, yeah, three weeks. 785 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 5: Ago, that happened to me, my friend had slept with 786 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: this guy that I was talking to, but I met 787 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: him through her. 788 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: Okay, wait what happened for or like, what's the timeline 789 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: of events? 790 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 5: So I actually I never knew Actually, so I think 791 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 5: I ever told you. So she never told me when 792 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 5: it happened. I don't remember, but I know it happened, 793 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 5: and then we met and he was interested, and like, 794 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 5: I hung out with him. But then I realized that 795 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 5: as more he became more interested that I was like, 796 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 5: that bothered me more than it did when we were 797 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 5: just meeting, you know what I mean. 798 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: So I yeah, I had to cut that off. 799 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was okay with you dating him. 800 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 2: Yeah she didn't care. 801 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah that happens. I've definitely been like, yeah, you 802 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: could date to him like years ago. I don't care 803 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: at all, But I do think I would feel a 804 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: little weird about it if it was the other way around. 805 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to date somebody. 806 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 6: I don't want to date anybody that my friends left with. 807 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 6: Oh yes, it's just I don't care how long ago. 808 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm cool, Like it's enough so I can pick. 809 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: A new one likes with MESSI. 810 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: Now. 811 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: It's also holiday season, and so things are a little different. 812 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: It feels like if you bring somebody home, you know, 813 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: during this time, it feels like it's a lot more 814 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: serious than at any other time. Like if I bring 815 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: you home March eighth, it's way different than you know, 816 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve or something like that. All right, so let's 817 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: talk about some of that protocol as far as dealing 818 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: with family dating. When do you bring somebody home? Should 819 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: you be offended if someone doesn't invite you? You know, 820 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: say you're spending the holiday by yourself, you recently started 821 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: dating somebody and they know you're alone, and they don't 822 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: invite you. You know, what type of advice would you 823 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: give for people around this time. 824 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 3: It's not fully a one size fits all, but I 825 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: would say generally, if you've been dating for less than 826 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: six months, don't be super in your fields. If they 827 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: don't invite you, particularly if they're really close to your family, 828 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: that's good. Now, if y'all been dating for five years 829 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 3: and you note that's. 830 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 6: A problem, even bringing somebody else, that's the problem. 831 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 3: So not y'all bring a little junior in this. But 832 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: if it's been six months or less, then you know 833 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: it's okay. And if you look kind of go with 834 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: your gut with it. Just be respectful. If someone does 835 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: invite you to the family, be respectful. Know your family well, 836 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: like do you really want to like exposure. 837 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: Are y'all at a place. 838 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: Now or because it's different per family, right, Like I 839 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: had gotten to a place where Avenge, I was like, 840 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm not bringing anyone home any like at this point, 841 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm from Kansas City. I'm not bringing anyone home unless 842 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 3: I've planned to make like, unless I think I can 843 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 3: marry them, Like it just got to that point and 844 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: my family's accepting to anyone. Fortunately, because definitely we dated 845 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: all types, but that just became sort of my like 846 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: my thing. And I do say that it's nice if 847 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: you're not gonna bring them home, and particularly to the guys. 848 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 3: For the women, if you know, for whatever reason she's 849 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: by herself or going to kind of be with the 850 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: smaller group, if you want to plan something thoughtful for her. 851 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: So maybe you're not ready to bring her home to 852 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 3: the family, but maybe you send her flowers on Christmas 853 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: Eve or just something so that she doesn't feel alone 854 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: or he doesn't feel because I know you like to 855 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: give gifts, like just to kind of say, look, I 856 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: know we're not here and together, but I'm thinking of you. 857 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: I think that's special. 858 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: Also, dating this type of the holidays, whether you meet 859 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: family or not, is a really fun time to create 860 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: your own tradition. 861 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: Who knows if you'll be together next year, that doesn't matter. 862 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: This kind of leans into that kismet thing that Tiny 863 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 3: was talking about, like in the moment, just like especially 864 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 3: like in New York. Maybe it's going to look at 865 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: the windows, or maybe it's a certain restaurant that you liked, 866 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 3: and it doesn't have to be a holiday themed restaurant. 867 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: It could just be whatever restaurant and maybe that's something 868 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: you start now and you create a fun memory and 869 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 3: then next year, whether you meet family or not, you 870 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: know whatever you guys said, do you go back to 871 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: that restaurant and you go back and do that thing. 872 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: Holidays are really fun for creating your own little right, 873 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 3: Like I. 874 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Went sledding one year. That was fun. Yeah, I don't 875 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: nowhere exactly right. 876 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: Been ice skating, I've been ice skating. I've never been 877 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: Skatingpies of lip service. That's where we need to eat out. 878 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: We need to find a black own something, slope something. 879 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Now, what if your person you're dating gets you a 880 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: gift and you don't like it. 881 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: Oh, I got this necklace one time, and my best 882 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: friend knew I was getting, Like I didn't know, but 883 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 3: he had like asked her or something, and I think 884 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: she tried to warn them, but by the time she 885 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: responded to his message, she'd already purchased it, because. 886 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: Like it took a while. 887 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. When I saw it and he put it 888 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 3: on my neck, I felt it. I felt like it 889 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: was burning. 890 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: And it was tried. It was burned. 891 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: And then I like went in my room and cried 892 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: or like, and then eventually I did. 893 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: I was just like, and what's sad is he got 894 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 3: like roped in by the sales because he tried to 895 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 3: explain what the two hearts meant, and I was like, 896 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 3: that's what they say on the like. 897 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: Jewelers, because yeah, yeah. 898 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 6: You're the expert. But I feel like you just got 899 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 6: to eat it sometimes just like okay, thank you, thank. 900 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 2: You for me, and just so I used to do that. 901 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: She cried. 902 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: Though here's the thing, she's dramatic. 903 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 3: It was burning and it was just like, let me 904 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: take it off once experts that I actually didn't like 905 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 3: it because initially, when he gave it, I was like, 906 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: thank you, it's so sweet. 907 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 908 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 3: But if you've been together for a while, we want 909 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 3: to and my gift was great, then I got him. 910 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: It just hated. 911 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: That's to that thought, listeners, because you feel like somebody 912 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: should know you enough to know what you're gonna like for. 913 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: A while, not initially, not yet if it's initially. 914 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: But I also think actually, even as uncomfortable, it feels 915 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: like always be gracious and grateful, but it is actually 916 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 3: better to be honest because if you guys do enter 917 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 3: into a long term relationship. You're setting that standard and 918 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: you don't want him to think you like precious moment 919 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: stalls because he got you one. 920 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: Then and then years later he's you're pissed because you 921 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: got all because you I mean saying with like the 922 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: names in bed and likeah. 923 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: Also, you know, most guys will get comfortable, so they'll 924 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: be like, oh, she liked this. Be honest, but be 925 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: gracious and recognize that they tried right. So you're just like, oh, 926 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: my gosh, I really appreciate this so much. 927 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: I know you may not know this. 928 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 3: It's the reason why earlier I mentioned I designed my 929 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 3: engagement ring, so getting engaged was a surprise, but the 930 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: reason I designed it was intentional because because my now 931 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 3: husband knows me, and he knew fairly early on that 932 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 3: I'm pretty picky about the jewelry that I wear. 933 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 2: Hints the neckle. He wasn't the one who got me 934 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: the necklace that, but. 935 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he knew that story and it just 936 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: has enough. 937 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 3: So he was like, look, that's gonna be one of 938 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: the biggest things I ever get. 939 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: I want it to be something you love. 940 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 3: He's like, I want to surprise you, but he also 941 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: knows I like to research things. So he was like, well, 942 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 3: what if we did it this way? Would you want 943 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: to design your own? Like you picked the designer you 944 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, do whatever, And then he'd get the ring. 945 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't know when he got it. I wouldn't know 946 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: when it was done, and then he'd propose in his 947 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: own way, in his own time, in his own But 948 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: that part of that happened. And it's the ring of 949 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 3: my dreams and it's one of one and there's little 950 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: hidden details in it, like it's everything to me and 951 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 3: I love it. I named her Betty after Betty White 952 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,479 Speaker 3: Beau's like saying, you're ready white die. But it's because 953 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: I was honest from the jump. Whereas when I had 954 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: been proposed to you before, I didn't like the ring. 955 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: How many times you been proposed to him? 956 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: Only three? 957 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay, did you keep crazy? None of them? 958 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: Because that goes back to that showing like it goes 959 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 3: back to paying for something on the third date. I 960 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 3: was never with you for the money. This spas I 961 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 3: also got me. I can take care of me. And 962 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: then also this is no longer mine because this relationship 963 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 3: is in mind like it's not what I want. 964 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: So like some of you're proposed to me once and 965 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: he he would tell me to just keep the ring 966 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: because I said no right away. He didn't want to die. 967 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't want it, did you? 968 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: I mean, did you keep it? 969 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't know where it is at this point, but 970 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: it was a long time ago, but it was like 971 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: a surprise. 972 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 973 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll tell you this, and the 974 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: manager of the restaurant was like, how did it go? 975 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: He was like not good? 976 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 2: Did you guys break up? 977 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: Saying yeah, I never haven't seen him since home. 978 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: Were you guys together before? 979 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: He Here's the thing, like I I was a lot younger, 980 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: and I don't even know why he did that. And 981 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: he told me he said his friend was like, yeah, 982 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: you should just go for it. Like I was like, 983 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: why would he tell you that? It was so embarrassing, 984 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: And then I was like here he was like, no, 985 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: keep it. I don't even want to see it. 986 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: So you didn't even open the box. 987 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: Not had it. It was in the middle of the 988 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: dessert cake. And then it was at a Mexican restaurant 989 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: and it said what. 990 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: Did you say? 991 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 4: So on the first of all, I didn't know what 992 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 4: the cake said because I said, well, you marry me 993 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 4: and his family it said well no because it was 994 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 4: like in script. 995 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's going on in here? And 996 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: it said would you if marry me? Because I don't know. 997 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: They just wrote it wrong so many signs I literally know, 998 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: and so I was like, are you proposing to me? 999 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: And he was like, oh my god. And it was. 1000 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: And I was embarrassed because we're like at a nice restaurant. 1001 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: And it was funny because when we came in, they 1002 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: were like rose petals on the table, so I was like, wow, 1003 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: they really go out all, you know. It was just 1004 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: like they think it was inside of like a thing. 1005 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: And then they pulled the top. Yes, and there was 1006 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: a ring in the middle of the. 1007 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 2: Later. 1008 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: No, I couldn't because I was so caught off guard. 1009 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we had ever talked about this or 1010 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: anything was leading up to it. It just came out 1011 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: of nowhere. 1012 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 3: Which is a good key. That is a good no 1013 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: and point proposals being a surprise. 1014 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: Didn't say yes and then say no, there's a. 1015 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 2: Whole bunch of people around. 1016 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: I would. 1017 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know these people. 1018 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 6: That's that's a fact. 1019 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: And this is before social media, right, social media right now, 1020 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 3: how was it? 1021 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 6: He was like, no, just think if somebody had their 1022 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 6: just all these people there thoughtful, but like I would 1023 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 6: say yes, and then I would say no later. 1024 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 2: But then that like makes it harder and stickier, and. 1025 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: Like say no one for all these people, yes, oh 1026 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: my god, and then dip you know, hard it is 1027 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 3: to change our minds later. 1028 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Like Devin Howard, was I for you did to 1029 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: break off your several. 1030 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 3: Cag not only two, only too? 1031 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 4: You know? 1032 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 3: It was it was hard and the second one that 1033 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 3: was working off we called off the wedding. Part of 1034 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 3: it was COVID related, like we the dress, the venue, 1035 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 3: the saved the dates. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, it was 1036 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: like literally we were supposed to get married the year 1037 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: of like the pandemic, and it had been booked the 1038 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 3: year before. And so that part was really because it 1039 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: was like people I bought. 1040 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: Tickets tickets the pandemic. 1041 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: Well one they waited too late to cancel, but they 1042 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 3: did take a couple of trips to Egypt and then 1043 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 3: that's how they got pregnant. 1044 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 2: My nephew was born, my little Okay, so it but 1045 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, like so that was hard. 1046 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 3: How did I look the one that gave the necklace, 1047 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: and I just was like we were kind of dragging 1048 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 3: our feet and planning. I think it just didn't sit 1049 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 3: right and and look also low key a lot of prayer, 1050 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 3: Like just in general, it's like we're humans. We're gonna 1051 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: do things that feel good. Sometimes don't feel good. Sometimes 1052 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: I like to just do a blanket prayer of like 1053 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 3: save me from the things that aren't meant for me, 1054 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 3: like let me get all the blessings you have in 1055 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 3: store for me, and don't let me stand in my 1056 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 3: own way. And so it just kind of led to 1057 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: a conversation that I was like and I couldn't get 1058 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 3: the ring off fast. 1059 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 6: It was both times sort of like yeah, no, I 1060 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 6: was me and the guy I was engaged to. We're 1061 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 6: planning a destination wedding and we called it oft and 1062 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 6: some people already bought their tickets and stuff. 1063 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: Did they get their money? Like, I don't know, she said, 1064 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. She's like, not my problem. 1065 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 2: I was lovely younger. 1066 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't consider did you get gifts and stuff? Like 1067 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: what happens to the gifts if we have registering at 1068 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: the wedding. Yeah, there's a bridal shower gifts shower. 1069 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: Yet my aunt did buy us this really nice hand 1070 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: and he actually loved that panting used it all the time. 1071 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 3: And when we broke up, I took that pant, even 1072 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: though pant and all the spices. I my aunt was like, 1073 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 3: let him keep the pant, I'll get you another one. 1074 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: I was like, no, it's the principal, and so I 1075 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: just took the pant. I still have never used it, 1076 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 3: but they don't make it anymore. So I'm glad that, 1077 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 3: thank you, because I really don't. But I thought there 1078 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: too that because it's good not stick. 1079 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: Was it the necklace? Guy? 1080 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: Get engaged in? 1081 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 3: Guy? 1082 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: What did that ring look like? 1083 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 3: So that one was smaller and it was round with 1084 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 3: a simple band, and it wasn't me. 1085 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 2: It just wasn't me. 1086 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 3: Then the next one was an heirloom and it was emeralds. 1087 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 2: It was his grandmother's ring. That was bigger, more me. 1088 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 3: And then this one I designed from scratch. It has 1089 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 3: our initials and Morse code and diamonds hidden in the band, 1090 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 3: and I picked the designer who I'm now friends with, 1091 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 3: so it's me. 1092 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was okay. You know, they always say, 1093 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: did you get engaged? On a holiday like during okay, 1094 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,280 Speaker 1: because people always say, yeah, it's nothing right birthday. 1095 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: I think it's fine. 1096 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: My mother doesn't believe in that, but I think it's 1097 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 3: perfectly fine. You guys do what's special for the two 1098 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: of you, you know what I mean, Like, I don't 1099 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 3: think that that's yeah, okay, I think. 1100 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: It's for legal purposes. I think it's for legal purposes 1101 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: because no, because they do say, like if you give somebody, 1102 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: if you propose on a holiday, they get to keep 1103 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: it because because it's a gift, legally they can keep it. 1104 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 3: It's but I look state by state because I know 1105 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 3: some states regardless, it's considered a gift though on the premise. 1106 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: Of getting married. 1107 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so if you don't get married, like in 1108 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 3: New York State, you have to give it back like 1109 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 3: it's yours. 1110 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: Once you're legally married, it's yours to keep married. 1111 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: Because I know they said Christmas, Valentine's Day, your birthday, 1112 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: They're like, it was a gift, and so I don't know, 1113 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 1: so just something. 1114 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1115 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 1: Now, another thing that people talk about is gift giving 1116 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: at different stages in a relationship. Some people feel like 1117 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: I've heard guys say I don't want to go too 1118 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: big too early, because then the expectations are too high 1119 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: to keep on trying to like keep up, yeah, upstage 1120 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: what you did previously. So, Devin, what are your thoughts 1121 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: as far as you know? Of course, we always want 1122 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: to give thoughtful gifts, but sometimes should we be raining 1123 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: it in earlier on? 1124 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 3: I think if you're just leading with thoughtful, I do 1125 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 3: think it's smart to kind of look at the long term, 1126 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 3: which is like if I can see myself with this 1127 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 3: person for five years, Like can I sustain this? Because 1128 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 3: you don't want to love bomb, which is where you 1129 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: do it all up front and then you're left kind 1130 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 3: of like there's nothing else I can do. But I 1131 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 3: think leave it thoughtful. Know that thoughtful doesn't have to 1132 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 3: be super expensive. It can be, but it doesn't have 1133 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: to be. And make sure you're not trying to overcompensate, 1134 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 3: because sometimes the people who come out really hot and strong, 1135 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: particularly guys, they're actually trying to like overcompensate for some 1136 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 3: other pops wear. 1137 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: Wearing. 1138 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: If you're doing it. 1139 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: Genuinely to see that person happy and like to just 1140 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 3: have joy, you're not You're not doing it to necessarily 1141 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: flex on everyone else you're literally just trying to put 1142 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 3: a smile on that other person's face. And I think 1143 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 3: if you lead with that intenctionality, like you'll be good 1144 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 3: every time. But that's also why being honest it's important 1145 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 3: because if they're trying to do that for you and 1146 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 3: they think you like this because you smiled at it, 1147 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 3: and you hate it, it's. 1148 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: Gonna be much harder to rein in over time. 1149 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 4: I had a guy give me the same thing three 1150 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 4: times in the row, and after the third one, I 1151 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I don't want this again. 1152 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 2: But it was a different like color. 1153 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: It was different colors, but it was the same gift birthday, 1154 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 4: just it was the first one was just because the 1155 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 4: second one was Valentine's but the same thing for my birthday. 1156 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I like this, but. 1157 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: Please give me a little work creative. 1158 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 2: It was those flowers on the box and I'm like, because. 1159 00:52:52,760 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: If it was like a different Rolex it in the market. Yeah, 1160 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: And it was like. 1161 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 4: They got bigger and they were a different color, but 1162 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 4: it's like they last forever and I don't want to 1163 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 4: just throw. 1164 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: It away from you. 1165 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: I took it. 1166 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 4: I don't think he took it well though, because I 1167 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 4: never got another gift from him. 1168 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: That was the end of that. Well, at least you 1169 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: need to get more flowers in the now. Okay, let 1170 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: me ask you this. Let's just say it's Christmas time, 1171 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: and let's say you buy your significant other and amazing gift, 1172 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: but then find out right afterward that they were cheating 1173 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: on you. 1174 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 2: That happened to me? Did you do I got him 1175 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 2: a go pro for Christmas? What's that? 1176 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: That's the camera? 1177 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, the little cameras and I never saw him again? 1178 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait yeah, wait, okay, you got him 1179 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 3: a gift, my gift, and then did you find out 1180 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 3: he was cheating? 1181 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 2: Or like I found out? Maybe? 1182 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 5: So my birthday is Christmas, so right, you gotta would 1183 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 5: give your birthday birthday freaking little cat? 1184 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: No, please, I'll tell you. 1185 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 4: You got him the little thing that he could wear 1186 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 4: it up here and everything he got me that he 1187 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 4: got you that like you know what I mean with 1188 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 4: the little rim and everything, and then he got me 1189 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 4: like a little like bathroom body works that you buy 1190 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 4: your your elderly aunt at the you know what I'm 1191 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 4: talking about? 1192 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: Want to check out? Right, okay? 1193 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 3: Right? 1194 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 5: And he was like, okay, great, great, great, and then 1195 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 5: it was two years and he went out to dinner 1196 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 5: with someone else and like didn't wish me happy, like whatever, 1197 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 5: and I was like, what the fuck? 1198 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: And we broke up over the phone. I never saw 1199 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: it again. A couple. You guys, we were together on 1200 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 2: and off for like eight years. 1201 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, you see me right, and 1202 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: even worse if he was posting video from the GoPro like, 1203 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, was the next. 1204 00:54:59,440 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 6: Nerve. 1205 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: Wow, Listen, that's so funny because I dated a guy 1206 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: and I bought him a camcorder for his birthday and 1207 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: then we broke up soon after. But you know what 1208 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: I did. I didn't tell him. I knew he was cheating. 1209 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: I borrowed it back and then broke up. Oh, I like, 1210 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: I still have and that camp quarder is so old 1211 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: and I still have it. But if you see on 1212 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: any of my shaky videos from lip service that were 1213 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 1: in black and white back in the day, I was like, oh, 1214 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: and I strategically smart did not say anything until I said, 1215 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: can I borrow the camera? 1216 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 2: See? I would not have had the restraint. But that's good. Yes, 1217 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm a capricorn. 1218 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say one thing about Angela she 1219 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 4: can definitely be strategic. 1220 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: That was I never gave a gift, and that happened. 1221 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 3: But a dude in college that we were dating, we 1222 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 3: actually lived together. At that point I found out he 1223 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 3: was cheating. This is back on AOL and a messenger 1224 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 3: like and that was a thing. So I figured out 1225 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 3: a software. This is gonna make me sound crazy, it's fine. 1226 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: I figured out a software thanks to my mother that 1227 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 3: you can and saw that would track all the messages 1228 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 3: that were happening. 1229 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 2: So I had done that when he was. 1230 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 3: Out of town because I suspected something, so he went 1231 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 3: to work. 1232 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: I opened the messages, saw. 1233 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 3: That he was having conversations when I had been out 1234 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 3: of town, like basically saying he was single. 1235 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: But we lived together. 1236 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,240 Speaker 3: So that night when he was worked at the club 1237 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 3: again I was in college, but that's your first. I 1238 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 3: printed them all out. I got super cute, went to 1239 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 3: the club, told him he led, put him in an envelope, 1240 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 3: told him I had forgotten something in his car, so 1241 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: I asked to borrow his keys. I went and took 1242 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 3: his keys like I left the room. I took his 1243 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 3: house keys off the key ring so he wouldn't be 1244 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 3: able to get into the house. This gave him his 1245 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: key ring back, pretending that nothing. 1246 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 2: There was a lot of keys on it, so he 1247 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 2: didn't notice when I were handed. 1248 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: Him the envelope. He opened it there in the club. 1249 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 3: He freaked out and tried to deny it, but it 1250 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 3: was like right there. 1251 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: I left. 1252 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 3: I then went home that night, and he tried to 1253 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 3: get in the house and was sitting in his are 1254 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 3: crying to let me for me to let him into 1255 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 3: the house, and you get in the house, you had 1256 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: to go sleep at his parents house. 1257 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, now you can explain to your parents why why. 1258 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: You're there for what you did. 1259 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: But we're friends now, it's fine. 1260 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: You became friends with people still after like like he's 1261 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: he was dumb, but like right, it's like you dropped 1262 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: the ball right, fumbled in for the rest of his 1263 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: life and you really like something satisfyingly evil about still 1264 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: being friends with somebody who wronged you. Yeah, because you're 1265 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: successful in doing well. It's kind of the kay, you know, 1266 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: but like like, hey, how goes it? 1267 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: Like goes it? So now you know, if Angel ever goes. 1268 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, I'd be like with. 1269 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 3: Him, you were both young and dunks. You're in college. 1270 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 3: I genuinely wish him like I care about him as 1271 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 3: a human. But yeah, I mean I know that, like. 1272 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: You were crying, and that he still watches literally. 1273 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm fabulous, Like I know that, but I wish them 1274 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 2: alt person. 1275 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 3: But also I am quite proud that I held restraint 1276 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: and didn't like I played it cool and like he 1277 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 3: didn't know until he. 1278 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: Got home that he wasn't going to. 1279 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: Be and it's so hard to not burst. 1280 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: I'll be calling like, oh I can't. 1281 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: I found out my ex cheated on me on his 1282 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: birthday and he was on his way to my house 1283 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: to come get me. He left his Gmail open on 1284 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: my laptop and I was going to look up like 1285 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: the restaurant we were that I was taking him to 1286 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: and I and I was like, oh, his Gmail just 1287 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: popped up, and I was like should I look? And 1288 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: then I said, God said yeah, because he would have 1289 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: did that. Listen says I'm trying to show you something, 1290 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: and I've seen. 1291 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 2: A lot when the sign is fine. 1292 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: And then even after that, like he was on his 1293 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 1: way it was his literally his birthday, and I was like, man, 1294 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: do I say something today like it's his birthday? Wonder 1295 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: and then I was like, I tried not to. And 1296 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: then he called me. He was like, all right. I 1297 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I'm gonna be able to 1298 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 1: make it. He was like, what what happened? What's the matter? 1299 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't feel good. And then 1300 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: I just sent him all of the messages and and 1301 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: that was it. That was that, and that was on that, 1302 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: so you know, and now he's listening to Yeah, now 1303 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I'm telling that story. I've changed. 1304 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: But listen, Devin. I would love for you, and I 1305 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: know you're super busy. I know you have your own 1306 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: show with your own friends. Okay, but we did love 1307 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: having you up here. 1308 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for having you. Guys are amazing and it 1309 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 2: was fun. 1310 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: You gave us such great, practical, reasonable information. But I'm 1311 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: so happy to know you're a little crazy too. 1312 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know my family? You know, look, keep 1313 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 2: it being a little crazy. 1314 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 3: It's a little unpredictab. I think them being a smige 1315 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 3: scared of you. Okay, I think it's healthy, just this 1316 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 3: smidge and not like a violent way. 1317 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: But just that I can't know if she's going to 1318 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,919 Speaker 2: go their way. 1319 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 3: I think that's I think I like to keep my 1320 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 3: husband on his toes. Okay, good, I tell you a 1321 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 3: stun gun story. That's next time you work too. 1322 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: No, but no, And I saw you the other night 1323 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: at the Tender Year and Swipe event where you gave 1324 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: us a lot of great statistics and numbers. But you 1325 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: know she's not just giving us practical advice. It's actually research, right, 1326 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: So these are real things. So make sure you check 1327 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: out the Tender Year and Swipe report so you can 1328 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: see everything from the lingo to the cities people moving 1329 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: places to date to because that one was wrong. I 1330 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know who, but you know, there's not a lot 1331 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: of capricorns, so I can understand why numbers wise that 1332 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't work out in our favor. 1333 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Whatever makes them feel. We support support. 1334 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: You, but I do really appreciate you. I love what 1335 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: you do, and we've worked together years and years and 1336 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: years and years ago in the past, but I know 1337 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: we'll be doing a lot more. 1338 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: So sure. 1339 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 3: I love seeing you in and you guys are all 1340 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 3: amazing and this podcast is so fun, so yeah, definitely 1341 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 3: watching a fan. 1342 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: And Jordan's once some definitely wants to work on like 1343 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: her profile, so. 1344 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and any potentially men that you want to throw. 1345 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm available. Okay, we teach you the database. Yeah, 1346 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 3: but you definitely should. We'll look at your we'll look 1347 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 3: at your profile. You definitely should be on Tinder. And 1348 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 3: you travel a lot, don't you. You know Tinder has 1349 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 3: a passport feature. I'm just saying, and dating in America 1350 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 3: is not necessarily the same as it is in other 1351 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 3: countries and cultures, like, so you set that passport feature 1352 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 3: to be at another country that you're in, which means, 1353 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 3: from the comfort of your couch, you can be swiping 1354 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: and matching with quts in other areas like in Turkey. 1355 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 4: Given show, just give them all And I'm gonna I'm 1356 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 4: going to get on it. 1357 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am going to. 1358 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1359 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: In fact, this would be an amazing experiment for us 1360 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 1: to kind of track what's going on. 1361 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. 1362 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 3: I've never been on a dating I love it ever, 1363 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 3: I love it and look and just like, I just 1364 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 3: want to preface it too, because like there's literally millions 1365 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 3: of people on dating apps, right, like hundreds of millions 1366 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 3: of people. So just like there are thousands, thousands of restaurants, 1367 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 3: you're not gonna like them all. And that's okay, but 1368 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean eating is bad. Right, you don't go, oh, 1369 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm never eating again. 1370 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't. 1371 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Literally you you don't rule. 1372 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 3: It out because you know there were a couple bad, 1373 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 3: so like just go in with that mindset though, but 1374 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 3: know that they're just like your favorite, Like there's some 1375 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 3: really good ones and there are still some really good 1376 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 3: people that have a lot going for them that are. 1377 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: On and if nothing else, you'll get some great females. 1378 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: And they say Chick fil A is. 1379 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 3: The number one, number one. Yet don't go there, Please don't, 1380 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 3: don't don't go there. 1381 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I would be impressed. Okay, all right, all right, well 1382 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: thank you so long. I'm totally kidding. 1383 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 3: We already heard the things that made her mad, like 1384 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 3: a karaoke bar and singing thong song. 1385 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Too well, I think like you sing and do karaoke, 1386 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: especially on our first day, that's so whacked. So if 1387 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: we can't sing, then that's perfect. 1388 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 6: You don't like people that can sing and do karaoke, period, 1389 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter for it's the first day, Like why that? 1390 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, she just like it at all. 1391 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Go get your deal, you know what I mean. I 1392 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be. 1393 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: Part of that. 1394 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Get a deal Tomato, tomato being here and trying to 1395 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 3: like because it's like trying to show up, you know 1396 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 3: what I mean. 1397 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Go sing on a cruise. 1398 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Angela, all right, wedding singer. 1399 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: But that's all I have to say. All right, but again, Devin, 1400 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Devin Samel, make sure you guys follow her great information. 1401 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Can people contact you too? 1402 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to be If you want dating 1403 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 3: tips advice, you can hit me up on IG. You 1404 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 3: can go to my website devintimone dot com. If you 1405 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 3: want to be in a free matchmaking database, you can 1406 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 3: do that too. If you want me to look at 1407 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 3: your h profile photos and evaluate those if you if 1408 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 3: I see your. 1409 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: DM, I'll respond okay, we love that. 1410 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: Yes, all right. 1411 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: As lift service, you