Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Laura breckon Ridge. I played Rachel car and
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl, and we're rewatching. You've got Yale. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: listeners to your one and only source into all things
Speaker 1: gossip Chrome. You know you love it. X O x
Speaker 1: O Hi everyone, welcome back to XO XL with me
Speaker 1: Jessica's or. A lot has been happening recently, but today's
Speaker 1: rewatch is where it starts to get really juicy. We're
Speaker 1: digging into season two, episode sixteen. You've got Yale, Chuck
Speaker 1: and Lily team up to try to take the company
Speaker 1: back from Jack, while Blair risks her future to scheme
Speaker 1: against the new teacher, Miss Carr, who gets into a
Speaker 1: few scandals of her own. Speaking of that new teacher,
Speaker 1: Laura Breckinridge, who plays Rachel Carr, is joining us today
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to ask her about her time
Speaker 1: on the show and dig into the steam are storylines
Speaker 1: that she has coming up. Okay, everyone, here's Laura. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? How are you good? I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to like actually see your face in a little bit too.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy rainstorm and I'm like you should see
Speaker 1: my studio and in like a dark hole, but you're
Speaker 1: making it feel much brighter because it's been forever. It's
Speaker 1: time me too. Shannola sends her love by the way,
Speaker 1: I need to saying that. Yes, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 1: have to give her a big How great is she?
Speaker 1: She's fabulous, She's the best fabulous. She really mean, she's
Speaker 1: just she just lights up every room she does. And
Speaker 1: she's directing a lot now. She she directed an episode
Speaker 1: of Shameless. Her episode was girl, We need to tell
Speaker 1: her she needs to do to be directing you and
Speaker 1: I in something. Yeah, I would love that. She's so good.
Speaker 1: I work on auditions with her sometimes. She just always
Speaker 1: has such good advice. She's she's really she's really great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean that whole cast of Shameless was so incredible.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, so many storylines like Gossip Girl,
Speaker 1: but every time you went on like her storyline was crazy,
Speaker 1: and then you would go to Emmy's and then you
Speaker 1: go to Jeremy's and every time that they all just
Speaker 1: brought so much like heat to the screen, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're always like, whoa, that's crazy and
Speaker 1: they made it all work together, and um, you always
Speaker 1: needed to know what was happening next and it was
Speaker 1: a crazy ride. Yeah, and and talk about a show
Speaker 1: that just kept going. I mean they did like eight
Speaker 1: or nine seasons. I think they did eleven or in
Speaker 1: the You're right, because I did. I did season eight
Speaker 1: and they went on a couple of years after after. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can't. I still remember when she booked the
Speaker 1: pilot and I was like, how did eleven years ago
Speaker 1: by already? Well? Yeah, and the kids were so I
Speaker 1: mean they literally grew up on that show. I remember
Speaker 1: going to the table read and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't know who these who everyone is? And then
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, wait, that's because they were twelve years
Speaker 1: old when you watched season one this last week. Jessica, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I mean time flies, It just does. I mean,
Speaker 1: even like with us, like it's been years, it's been
Speaker 1: crazy years. Wait. I want to introduce you because I
Speaker 1: got so excited. We just comped right in. This is
Speaker 1: Laura Breckinridge, and she's gonna be rewatching season two episode sixteen.
Speaker 1: You've Got Yale, which is the title is based on
Speaker 1: the romantic comedy You've Got Mail starring Meg Ryan and
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks. Um So that's what we're going to get into.
Speaker 1: But I want everyone to kind of get to know
Speaker 1: about you if they don't already, which I'm sure most
Speaker 1: everyone listening does. By the way, Before I do that,
Speaker 1: do you hear the thunderstormer or no? I feel like
Speaker 1: I heard a rumble, but I wasn't sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is like the craziest thunder I've ever heard in
Speaker 1: my whole life. Anyways, it's actually like very like cozy.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, jeez, I a thunderstorm me too. I
Speaker 1: remember my mom used to be like, so and so
Speaker 1: is bowling today in in Heaven And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. They definitely just got a strike with that,
Speaker 1: like huge thunder right there, right yeah, um, okay, So
Speaker 1: we have you here to rewatch with us and you
Speaker 1: play Rachel Carr, Miss car Um. Can do you remember
Speaker 1: your casting story? And at this point, obviously season one
Speaker 1: had come out, so had you heard of the show?
Speaker 1: Did you know about it because of yeah, there wasn't
Speaker 1: a ton of shows on TV then, or because you
Speaker 1: are an actor in that world, like what was your
Speaker 1: what was going on? Yeah? I remember my casting story
Speaker 1: very well because it's a story of you know when
Speaker 1: you think something goes really well and then you don't
Speaker 1: hear and you're like, oh, I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: went well. I get and you forget about it. I
Speaker 1: knew about the show. I actually had auditioned for the pilot.
Speaker 1: I auditioned for Blair, so I knew about it. And
Speaker 1: then I went back to college. And because I had
Speaker 1: taken time off to work and wasn't that in tune
Speaker 1: with I knew what was airing, but I wasn't in
Speaker 1: tune with how things were doing. Maybe I would say um,
Speaker 1: because I just didn't. I didn't have time to watch TV,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't aware. And then I auditioned. I actually
Speaker 1: auditioned again. I was looking I have in my email
Speaker 1: like all my old audition emails, you know, with and
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I wanted for something else,
Speaker 1: and I went in for the college student when they
Speaker 1: went to visit Yale, and then I got sent this
Speaker 1: audition and it was like teacher, who looks young? I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, okay, I look young. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: told all the time I look young, and was it?
Speaker 1: And it just you know when you read sides and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I get this like it. It makes
Speaker 1: it kind of clicks for clip. Yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: felt like I kind of got her. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was like a week in New York and there
Speaker 1: were other auditions, and I think that same day I
Speaker 1: had another audition for thirty Rock and Tina Feye was
Speaker 1: in the room. I was like, very nervous about that audition,
Speaker 1: but this one was with casting. When you were casting,
Speaker 1: it's like a cozier audition experience. So I did it,
Speaker 1: and I just did the scenes I did. There was
Speaker 1: two scenes, I think, and there was no notes. It
Speaker 1: was just a well that was great, thanks, thanks, and
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, wait, did you like it or
Speaker 1: you never know that, like give me something right. You're
Speaker 1: like you don't know if that means you nailed it
Speaker 1: or like they were like that was good, but it's
Speaker 1: not going to work. And I moved on. And I
Speaker 1: feel like with guests, it said it was a guest spot,
Speaker 1: it didn't say it was a recurring and they cast
Speaker 1: it was pretty quickly, you like here in the next
Speaker 1: couple of days, I didn't hear anything. So I moved on,
Speaker 1: and I think it was like honestly, was like two
Speaker 1: weeks later, maybe there was Thanksgiving between some for some reason.
Speaker 1: It was a long time, and my entire team called
Speaker 1: me one afternoon. They're like congratulations, like for for what
Speaker 1: you got it and they're like gostep girls, like wait
Speaker 1: what I got it? And they're like, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a few episodes and and that was that. And
Speaker 1: I called my best friend from college, who at the
Speaker 1: time it wasn't she she had graduated and she works
Speaker 1: in finance and she's very put together woman, very you know,
Speaker 1: in control, and suddenly I called her, was like, so
Speaker 1: I booked an episode of Gospiel girl, you watched that show, right,
Speaker 1: And she just starts like hyperventilating and she was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I gotta hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening. She's like, I just I
Speaker 1: had to find a conference room because I'm freaking out,
Speaker 1: and I just I this is like some of the
Speaker 1: most exciting news I've ever heard. It is my favorite
Speaker 1: show and you're gonna be on it. And that was
Speaker 1: my first taste of just how like fans toward it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, she was super super excited. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, from this is speaks of how much they
Speaker 1: must have liked you from the beginning of meeting you,
Speaker 1: auditioning for the pilot, then bringing you back for someone else,
Speaker 1: and then bringing you back a third time again like
Speaker 1: they were basically waiting to find something to connect, you know,
Speaker 1: put the pieces to the puzzle together for you, because
Speaker 1: they don't keep bringing you back if they didn't love
Speaker 1: what they saw. It's you know, it's a waste of
Speaker 1: people's time. So that just speaks volumes that you kind
Speaker 1: of shined from the beginning. Maybe they didn't see you
Speaker 1: as Blair, you didn't feel the connection with Blair, whatever
Speaker 1: it may have been. And and to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like your list of credits of what you've done, and
Speaker 1: then like going to Princeton like I'm so like I
Speaker 1: presston enamored and everything with what you you know, like
Speaker 1: starring opposite Laura Lenny and Liam neeson Um and also
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl herself Kristen Bell, like on on Broadway, Like
Speaker 1: that's incredible, Blue Bloods, Gray's Anatomy. I Mean, you've done
Speaker 1: such amazing work. So it's like, I just that's awesome,
Speaker 1: Like for anyone listening as an actor when you keep
Speaker 1: going back in for the same show. If you're not
Speaker 1: getting roles, sometimes it does get discouraging, but like if
Speaker 1: you get you feel good when they're like having you
Speaker 1: come back for something else because obviously there's something there
Speaker 1: they liked. So that just speaks volumes of you. It
Speaker 1: also just feels really thank you. That's very nice, um,
Speaker 1: and a really nice way to look at it. It's
Speaker 1: nice to you know, with casting directors, you go in
Speaker 1: sometimes they bring you back, and they bring you back
Speaker 1: for different things. And there in my career there's been
Speaker 1: a good amount of casting directors who will just kind
Speaker 1: of believe in you, right, and um, there's something really
Speaker 1: wonderful about knowing that support is there, even when it
Speaker 1: gets discouraging, as you said sotially, like it's just I
Speaker 1: keep it's not it's not fitting. Why is it not fitting?
Speaker 1: You know? Crucible? You mentioned Crucible, and I just remember this.
Speaker 1: I went in for like three different Oh I heard that,
Speaker 1: Oh that I heard it's crazy that thunder to mute
Speaker 1: my microphones. It doesn't interrupt our episode. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: That was that was exciting, big strike up in Heaven.
Speaker 1: I mentioned cruis Ball was like boom, yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: a good show. Yeah, I think I went in for
Speaker 1: that show four times for different roles in the production,
Speaker 1: and it was one of the I went in and
Speaker 1: I remember I said to my agent, I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to be in this production so badly. I
Speaker 1: will be the grass in the background if I have
Speaker 1: to be, because I love the show and I love
Speaker 1: the actors who were part of it, and it just
Speaker 1: felt like such an opportunity. And I kept feeling I
Speaker 1: was having good auditions, but the you know, I went
Speaker 1: in for different parts in it and it wasn't fitting.
Speaker 1: It wasn't fitting. And then I got cast, and which
Speaker 1: was I still remember that phone call. You remember those
Speaker 1: phone calls when you get those jobs that you're really
Speaker 1: excited about. And we get to set and there was
Speaker 1: actually grass on our set. Was incredible, there was grass
Speaker 1: in the background. I was like, I almost like I
Speaker 1: would have done too. I would have been lying. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see them worse. And but you know
Speaker 1: what you brought, you bring something to I'm sure they
Speaker 1: learned something from you. But that is a it's great
Speaker 1: company you were with, for sure. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: had you met Kristin Bell before that, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times people don't know, like us working on the show.
Speaker 1: She did her voiceovers mostly I think in l A.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was times she may have traveled and
Speaker 1: had to go into certain studios, but I mean there
Speaker 1: was years that went on that I had not met her,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, we worked together. We did Crucible a
Speaker 1: few it was a few six years before Gossip Girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you met her there, but obviously not on the show.
Speaker 1: Not on no, no, no, Yeah, It's it's interesting you
Speaker 1: it feels like you work intimately together, but but you don't, don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's times you could do a whole season
Speaker 1: of a show and not have a scene with another
Speaker 1: main character. Which is so you and I had no
Speaker 1: scenes together. We didn't, but I know we shot at
Speaker 1: the same locations. Yeah, Like there's always that time where
Speaker 1: we are probably like crossing in the mare and makeup room,
Speaker 1: or your scene was before mine or something like that,
Speaker 1: But we didn't actually work together. No, we didn't have
Speaker 1: a scene together, which I'm um, so we will have
Speaker 1: to like get on that will work somewhere else together. Um.
Speaker 1: So you went to Princeton, Yes, what did you study there?
Speaker 1: I was a classical studies major, like that's so impressive, Laura.
Speaker 1: I really like school. So I studied ancient Greek theater
Speaker 1: and literature. I kind of joke that I was maybe
Speaker 1: justifying my career choice. I knew when I went I
Speaker 1: had already been working. I knew I wanted to be
Speaker 1: an actress, and I wanted to study things that interested me.
Speaker 1: I did acting at Princeton as well. But you can't
Speaker 1: major in theater there. You can major in other Sorry,
Speaker 1: you can't major you can major in you can't major
Speaker 1: in a trade. Basically, you can't be like a pre
Speaker 1: med major. You can't be a business major. But you
Speaker 1: they encourage that you learn how to be a scholar,
Speaker 1: if you will how to study to learn, and then
Speaker 1: you can have a track. So I had a friend
Speaker 1: who was an anthropology major on the premed track and
Speaker 1: went to med school, and so I was on a
Speaker 1: theater track. There is a great theater program there that
Speaker 1: has just continued to grow, and there's a wonderful theater
Speaker 1: scene that's there. But you're not a theater major. You're
Speaker 1: either an English major with a theater track. And I
Speaker 1: did classical studies and I was interested in arts place
Speaker 1: in society. I would say, and how theator changes to
Speaker 1: reflect the society in which it's performed in. And I
Speaker 1: when you look at fifth century BC, kind of distills
Speaker 1: culture in a time and you can kind of see
Speaker 1: how they talked to each other. And so I was
Speaker 1: just fascinating by the way. I find it really fascinating.
Speaker 1: It's you know, theater Crucible, for example, we revive did
Speaker 1: after nine eleven. It had been written during the McCarthy era.
Speaker 1: What is it to do? What was it in two
Speaker 1: thousand two? What was it saying then versus what it
Speaker 1: was saying in nifty and it's saying a lot of
Speaker 1: the same things, but it has a different relationship in
Speaker 1: that time period, of course, right with its audience. And
Speaker 1: so that's what I was. I kind of studied. My
Speaker 1: thesis was on media performed at different time periods in history.
Speaker 1: So that's my fancy and so incredible, and no, who cares,
Speaker 1: Dorky's cool man. But let me ask you this. Do
Speaker 1: you think that the show like, especially because we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into this break it's you've got Yale, it's all about,
Speaker 1: you know, getting into these Ivy League schools. Do you
Speaker 1: think that the show portrays prep schools. Yeah, correctly. And
Speaker 1: now I know it's a show and there's things that
Speaker 1: are going to be pulled or pushed or plugged a
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know. But I mean I wasn't
Speaker 1: applying to like Princeton or Yale or anything. I didn't
Speaker 1: even go to school. So like very interested, Like did
Speaker 1: they portray it well? Like is is the waiting and
Speaker 1: the hype? And like the is the stress is all that? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was heating right on. My high school experience was
Speaker 1: very different because I didn't I went to a private school,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a prep school. I went to professional
Speaker 1: children's school and it's in New York. It's kids who
Speaker 1: were working professionally that need flexible schedules and a lot
Speaker 1: of dancers and actors and even horseback riders, tennis players,
Speaker 1: and that school that I love. I love my high
Speaker 1: school and that's awesome. All of my friends from high school,
Speaker 1: we were super supportive of each other. Everyone pursuing their
Speaker 1: own thing, write their own uh what they wanted to
Speaker 1: do with their life, and so not everyone wanted to
Speaker 1: go to college. Some people were going to join a
Speaker 1: ballet company and just do that. Some people were doing
Speaker 1: a ballet company and college. Other people were going to
Speaker 1: be singers. That there's just everyone had their own track
Speaker 1: and that's what that school support courts. And so I
Speaker 1: knew I loved acting, and I knew I loved academia
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go to college, and so I
Speaker 1: felt very supportive. But there wasn't a competitive Uh. There
Speaker 1: were other people applying to college, but I didn't think
Speaker 1: we were competitive in anyway. It wasn't like, oh, like
Speaker 1: in this episode, they're like one constant student gets earlier,
Speaker 1: right that I didn't. We didn't Blair and Serena, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We didn't have that at my high school. I was
Speaker 1: very excited. I really wanted to go to Princeton. I
Speaker 1: did apply early. It surprised me that it was. It
Speaker 1: felt like the perfect fit, but um, I went and visited.
Speaker 1: I had worked with somebody. They were developing Dirty Dancing
Speaker 1: at the time for Broadway, and I was playing Baby
Speaker 1: in the workshop and a woman had just graduated it
Speaker 1: from Princeton and the writer of the show, her husband
Speaker 1: was a professor Princeton, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have an art scene there, Like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they do and the woman who I was working with
Speaker 1: took me to Princeton for a night to a theater
Speaker 1: production by this company, Pig Iron Group. They were fabulous
Speaker 1: and I left. I was like, oh that it just
Speaker 1: felt like a fit for me. And I was very
Speaker 1: happy that my school helped me find my fit right.
Speaker 1: And I do think whatever your step is after high school,
Speaker 1: you're very young at that time, but it is trying
Speaker 1: to find what fits for you, what's right for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not every path, Not everyone's path is going to college
Speaker 1: or going to a theater school or going into the
Speaker 1: right you know, trade like it. It's all very individual,
Speaker 1: but we do, you know, and I think really people
Speaker 1: need to know that for sure. That's so good. Once
Speaker 1: I got there, and then you hear stories about the
Speaker 1: prep schools, you know, it does sound those it does
Speaker 1: sound intense, more intense than I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's intense. It's intense like because I think sometimes if
Speaker 1: you're at a certain school, there's pressure to then continue
Speaker 1: on to a certain type of education if you will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so that was not my experience, and so I
Speaker 1: do feel like I was a little bit like outside
Speaker 1: looking and being like is that really what it's like
Speaker 1: over there because it didn't feel that way for me, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it does get competitive at certain schools,
Speaker 1: certain high schools. I mean, I'm I'm sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know this is gossip Girl and there's always like
Speaker 1: some crazy breath being dropped, but like there's I think
Speaker 1: there's definitely an element in real life of waiting and
Speaker 1: the right for sure. Actually, we have a fan question
Speaker 1: for you. It's in real life, would Laura be more
Speaker 1: like Miss Car, Serena or Blair? And I'm only jumping
Speaker 1: right to that because Blair and Serena are so different
Speaker 1: trying to get and then the fact that Serena gets
Speaker 1: into Yale and Blair quite doesn't. And then you know,
Speaker 1: you have Miss Car that comes in, who's like so
Speaker 1: wonderful and suite, you know, in the very beginning, and
Speaker 1: then we see some like devious things come out later.
Speaker 1: But who would you be most like? Is what the
Speaker 1: fan question is. Um, I am a rule follower and
Speaker 1: I'm not cool, so so does I'm like I think
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, oh no, they said we have
Speaker 1: to even you know, I was parking at the parking
Speaker 1: garage here and I'm in an suv and there's all
Speaker 1: these like compact spaces. I was like, I'm in an suv.
Speaker 1: I can't park in there, like I'm following the rules,
Speaker 1: and so maybe Miss Carpet then I'm like, but not
Speaker 1: where Miss car goes, right, there's there's pieces of miss
Speaker 1: like I'm a little bit of each of them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I'd like to think, Um, I'm not as rigid
Speaker 1: as a Miss Car right if if if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I'm more relaxed. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like everyone else needs to. She's like, I am going
Speaker 1: to I follow the rules and I'm going to teach
Speaker 1: you that you need to as well. And I don't
Speaker 1: feel a connection to that part. I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: you do you? Right? I like that you do you
Speaker 1: because listen, when we all do us, it's we're okay,
Speaker 1: just be nice and do you be nice? To be
Speaker 1: considerate of others, be thoughtful. And then although, how about
Speaker 1: Blair in this episode when she's talking to m Car
Speaker 1: and she's like, I just what does she say to you?
Speaker 1: It's when she's kind of coming to apologize, but she's
Speaker 1: kind of always what Blair does, She's like still got
Speaker 1: an angle yeah, it's it's so good. She's like, and
Speaker 1: then when she's like, I'm trying to do better that
Speaker 1: part at the end, Oh yeah, she's a great line.
Speaker 1: What is that line? Um, I can't not I was
Speaker 1: It's something like I can't not do that right, It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. It's so beautiful and me too, and
Speaker 1: I was, I was hiking her zingers are great. But
Speaker 1: what she says to you was like she just this
Speaker 1: is the way she works, like she has to like
Speaker 1: kind of dig into people and kind of do all
Speaker 1: that and she doesn't know, but she's trying to do it.
Speaker 1: She's trying to be better. So here, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about where we left off and get into this episode
Speaker 1: because there's so much that happens. I want to hear
Speaker 1: your thoughts on things. I want to break some stuff down.
Speaker 1: So here's where we left off. After reading Bart's will,
Speaker 1: Chuck finds out that Bart left the entire empire to Chuck,
Speaker 1: but Jack plotted to get it taken away. Nelly Yuki
Speaker 1: stole Dan's phone and told Gossip Girl about Lily and
Speaker 1: Rufus's baby. Blair told Chuck it's over for good. Serena
Speaker 1: and Eric find out about the secret love child, and
Speaker 1: Lillian Rufus are told that their son has died. That's
Speaker 1: where we have left off, and here is what this episode.
Speaker 1: Here's the logline. It's that time of year when Constance
Speaker 1: Billard and St. Jude's students find out who is and
Speaker 1: isn't worthy of an early admission to Yale University. Serena
Speaker 1: bonds with her new teacher, Rachel Carr, who quickly becomes
Speaker 1: an enemy of Blair's. Meanwhile, Chuck pairs up with an
Speaker 1: unlikely ally in his war with Jack over Bass Industries,
Speaker 1: while Nate and Vanessa have a romantic night at the opera.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about Yale, and our episode starts with
Speaker 1: Blair excited for the Yale Early acceptance day and she's,
Speaker 1: you know, at her home, and Harold asked if Chuck
Speaker 1: is going to be coming to the opera with them
Speaker 1: that night, and she also has a dog, which was
Speaker 1: so cute, that bulldog. I'm like, first of all, I
Speaker 1: want that bulldog to come on on the podcast as well,
Speaker 1: just so I can like. And they had all the
Speaker 1: food was the Gale colors. It was all blue. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was just all of it was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was so like so much but so on point
Speaker 1: for Blair, Yes, oh my gosh. Was was that anything
Speaker 1: like your acceptance day? Like did it come with a dog?
Speaker 1: Did you have like people wearing sweaters and colors? I
Speaker 1: wish it came with a dog. It did not. I
Speaker 1: you know, when I got in at that point, you
Speaker 1: still got a letter in the mail, so you didn't
Speaker 1: know exactly what date was coming. You were told it
Speaker 1: was coming by a certain date. I think this, I
Speaker 1: think it's December fifteen. Is that I have like a
Speaker 1: date seared into my head um and I think I
Speaker 1: had been running home that whole week and it hadn't
Speaker 1: been there. And at that time, I was working in
Speaker 1: New York and I was We had the apartment I
Speaker 1: was staying in, we had a doorman. I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: and I I didn't run home that one day because
Speaker 1: the college counselor at my school was like, no, no no,
Speaker 1: it's not coming till Friday. It was like a Wednesday
Speaker 1: or Thursday. I was like, oh, I've been running home
Speaker 1: every day this week. And so I like went about
Speaker 1: my business and did what I had to do that
Speaker 1: evening and I got home at eight o'clock, nine o'clock
Speaker 1: at night and my parents weren't there, and the doorman
Speaker 1: was like, the envelope came and I was like, what
Speaker 1: do you no, No, it's not it's not no, that's
Speaker 1: different envelope. It's not coming till Friday. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's a bits and it was a big envelope and
Speaker 1: I opened it and I started at that time. They
Speaker 1: wrote just yes, and I just started screaming and it
Speaker 1: was really excited. And my mom calls because she wants
Speaker 1: to know where I am. And I'm like and I'm
Speaker 1: like vallowing. She's like, what's wrong, what's wrong? Where are you?
Speaker 1: Tell me where you are? I'm coming right. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's prinstance. She's like, it's okay, sweetie, it's okay. Because
Speaker 1: you thought I was saying I didn't get in. It's
Speaker 1: like no, I couldn't see. It was like, no, I
Speaker 1: got in. And then everyone's jumping and shouting and people
Speaker 1: were in the lobby like congratulating. So it was a
Speaker 1: big moment. But there was no dog for sure. It
Speaker 1: was Oh my god. And I love that your doorman
Speaker 1: was there. He was yeah, yeah, that's so cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. Still talk about it when I go home.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, so now we we are, like
Speaker 1: here's like Dan in the episode is coming to the
Speaker 1: penthouse to bring Stina some coffee on Yale Day, and
Speaker 1: then coming down the stairs is Rufus and Lily and
Speaker 1: they seem closer than ever. And I mean, can we
Speaker 1: talk about this for a minute, Like can you imagine
Speaker 1: like you're on again, off again boyfriend or girlfriend and
Speaker 1: then you're over at the house and like your mom
Speaker 1: or dad walks down with their mom or dad and
Speaker 1: it's just I'm not saying anyone saying it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be okay, but it's just like so complicated and a
Speaker 1: little messy right now. And then the fact that there
Speaker 1: has been a child in the mix where they you know,
Speaker 1: and you never know with Rufus and Lily or Serena
Speaker 1: or Dan, like if they're on or off or or
Speaker 1: either one of them. So it's like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I don't know who you root for it? Do
Speaker 1: you do? You? You root for Lily and Rufus now
Speaker 1: that Bart's out of the picture, even though I feel
Speaker 1: like it's very soon to be moving on from your
Speaker 1: partner who passed, or do you you know, root for
Speaker 1: Serena and Dan because they have this like love story
Speaker 1: that we've been following for a season and a half.
Speaker 1: Now it's it's like a it's hard, and it's like
Speaker 1: I want to root for all of them, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to just be that it's not their parents. You
Speaker 1: can't do yourself, you can't date, you can't can you
Speaker 1: you can't I know, And it's just I think they're
Speaker 1: both couples. The chemistry is so good and it's so
Speaker 1: you want them to be together. And so when this
Speaker 1: moment is such a great moment of wait, can we
Speaker 1: all have what we want in this moment? And it
Speaker 1: poses that right there, it's a very stark like wait
Speaker 1: a minute, we thought this. Both both couples were like,
Speaker 1: we're on right and then it's a wake up call
Speaker 1: a little bit right in this moment. And then it
Speaker 1: almost repeats later when they're at the opera and they
Speaker 1: see their parents like fully together together. But I also
Speaker 1: feel like this is a moment where maybe just a
Speaker 1: Srina Daniel were like, Okay, we've tried it, and we
Speaker 1: went back and forth on and off and like, okay,
Speaker 1: there we potentially have we have a brother and sister,
Speaker 1: like a half sister or brother somewhere in the world.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's it. Maybe we just you know, take
Speaker 1: a moment, stop fighting for this, take the gloves off,
Speaker 1: and just be friends, right right, and see see what
Speaker 1: comes later. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't ever have thought
Speaker 1: that they have a sibling somewhere. And then like throw
Speaker 1: in the mix here with potentially to their like related
Speaker 1: to Chuck. Oh right, they I know, right, it's all
Speaker 1: connect becomes very connected. Well yeah, because even the next
Speaker 1: little bit, the next little storyline that's like so crazy
Speaker 1: is Lily and Chuck losing Bart are all of them
Speaker 1: lost Bart rather, but they're dealing with you know, more
Speaker 1: things with the company. And you know, Chuck doesn't have
Speaker 1: a mother figure. He's lost his mom and now his
Speaker 1: dad and now here is Lily to come. I think
Speaker 1: this is a really beautiful storyline. I really mean it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful. It's really and I think Lily stepping up
Speaker 1: and and Kelly does it so beautifully. They're such warmth
Speaker 1: to such warmth that's like the exact word. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just warmth of caring. Like she knows that Chuck blames
Speaker 1: her and is mad at her and right and has
Speaker 1: all this anger, and yet she's still she gets that,
Speaker 1: she understands that she's allowing space for that and saying,
Speaker 1: I'm here for you, I want to help you. And
Speaker 1: I think it's really I really liked in this episode
Speaker 1: how they came together even when Chuck is like pushing
Speaker 1: her away and and and they have a common enemy
Speaker 1: now right that they can it's right with Jack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was really I like this storyline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. And it's like what you were just saying, though,
Speaker 1: it's so there's so many layers to like what is
Speaker 1: going on emotionally for both of them, like losing your husband,
Speaker 1: losing your dad, not having family, wanting to be his family,
Speaker 1: then finding out that like you're old, like someone that
Speaker 1: you dated years ago wants to see the child that
Speaker 1: you gave up for adoption. Um. But then both of
Speaker 1: your kids are dating, but they don't know if they
Speaker 1: want to date because you might get back with you know,
Speaker 1: rufus if there's just so much And then Chuck's you know,
Speaker 1: uncle coming into town and having all these things with
Speaker 1: past industries and really doesn't have any he's like nasty
Speaker 1: and he's just you know, so nasty and just selfish
Speaker 1: and yeah, and he's coming to be his Chuck's legal
Speaker 1: guardian who's like really there for the money and the
Speaker 1: drugs and a girl for him and not for him,
Speaker 1: and Chuck just needs to be loved. And then there's
Speaker 1: just like Blair has been trying to like be there
Speaker 1: for Chuck these last through all of this, and he's
Speaker 1: just you know, trying to numb himself because he's like
Speaker 1: also dealing with the loss of a father that he
Speaker 1: thought never wanted him in life, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean in those last episodes, and and that's messy, right,
Speaker 1: It's like you think your father never wants to but
Speaker 1: you miss him, and right there's this uh and didn't
Speaker 1: get to say goodbye, like gets to say goodbye. And
Speaker 1: there's so many emotions going on there. And I think
Speaker 1: you see it throughout the episode with him and Lily
Speaker 1: when she wants to help him and be there, and
Speaker 1: he'll have a moment and then he almost doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to accept that, right, and he pushes it away,
Speaker 1: and it's heartbreaking because you just want him to accept
Speaker 1: that love from the people who want to give it
Speaker 1: to him, but he's so used to not being able
Speaker 1: to trust that I think. So it's a I'm skipping
Speaker 1: ahead to the end of the episode. But I do
Speaker 1: love that they like defeat Jack together, right, and they
Speaker 1: fed out for sure. It's a good moment. And then
Speaker 1: he saves her from the bathroom. Right, it's in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and that's his way of showing thanks, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like being there for her. Yeah. It was insane And
Speaker 1: I didn't even remember that scene or that happening remember either,
Speaker 1: And it was really Yeah, it was I was like, no, wait,
Speaker 1: does that? Does that? Wait? Does that? Does it go there? Right?
Speaker 1: I started again, I know, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: what is he doing? Yeah? Yeah? And then how about
Speaker 1: Serena coming? She tells you, she tells Miss Carr that
Speaker 1: she gets accepted to Yale. Do you remember those scenes?
Speaker 1: Do you remember filming at Constance? I do remember. My
Speaker 1: first day was at the art gallery, my first day shooting,
Speaker 1: and we shot the very last of the name. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I remember those hallways and it's a great set.
Speaker 1: And what people may we don't know, uh, is that
Speaker 1: you know when you're walking those hallways it's like four
Speaker 1: hallways and then you sometimes have to tie them together
Speaker 1: so you're like walk and then you come in a
Speaker 1: different angle to make it look like a different hallway
Speaker 1: or you know, we feel it's all like wood and
Speaker 1: and chords exactly where you film. You know, we filmed
Speaker 1: me coming into the school and the exterior set, and
Speaker 1: then you have to pick up coming into the interior set,
Speaker 1: and you know, then movie magic puts it all together.
Speaker 1: And I do remember shooting. I really liked that day.
Speaker 1: It was a fun day. That was like my first
Speaker 1: day with everyone where I really got to know everyone
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn or and constant, because in Brooklyn it was
Speaker 1: just with pen really, yeah exactly. Or at the at
Speaker 1: the coffee shop. Yeah, and I your character says something, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: that's the place across the bridge. Right. It was like
Speaker 1: always dying because it was always like Brooklyn was so far.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like that place is expensive. Everyone wants
Speaker 1: to hang out there. Everyone knows Brooklyn. Now. Back then
Speaker 1: she was like it's across the bridge. Yeah. I also,
Speaker 1: I always remember shooting the scene with Blair and I
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was in the script that she
Speaker 1: takes my arm when She's like, let me tell you
Speaker 1: how it works here. But I remember, this isn't when
Speaker 1: she first meets you though, No, is that later it's when, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is not this scene, sorry, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is I first enter with Serena and Dan, and then
Speaker 1: it's after I give her the b paper and then
Speaker 1: that's right. She you say something about no one holds
Speaker 1: the doors like these kids, you know, yes, that's like
Speaker 1: my opening scene, like no one's opening the door, right,
Speaker 1: and so they helped me through the door. I had
Speaker 1: I had bags. I had a lot of props. I
Speaker 1: remember that, Like you had bags, books, you have had
Speaker 1: it all very rood of those kids, very road. You
Speaker 1: hold the door for people that can't open the door. Rachel.
Speaker 1: You know she she takes her papers everywhere. I like,
Speaker 1: she had rolla and her books and all of it.
Speaker 1: And I had two bags. But it helped with the
Speaker 1: clumsiness of that scene and feeling awkward and out of
Speaker 1: place in the school where everyone is like carrying like
Speaker 1: cute little purses, Like where do they write their books?
Speaker 1: Since they have cute little purses, what is in that purse? Raiser?
Speaker 1: Cell phones? Because they where everyone was using. I love
Speaker 1: it they had to like, you know, you had a
Speaker 1: type the texting, you know, three times to get a
Speaker 1: times to get a letter. I remember, yeah, gosh exactly,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was it was fun shooting that day.
Speaker 1: It was really that was a fun day. I forgot
Speaker 1: about those hallways because I didn't film at that school
Speaker 1: that much, so I've actually forgotten that. That was like
Speaker 1: a little fun fact. Yeah. Yeah, and the courtyards actually
Speaker 1: in the middle. The interior courtyard is on a sound stage,
Speaker 1: but the entrance to the school is actually a building
Speaker 1: near Central Park. We would shoot on location at so
Speaker 1: you would be outside and exterior saying your dialogue in
Speaker 1: your lines, and then you sometimes would walk up the
Speaker 1: stairs and then it would cut and then you would
Speaker 1: continue the scene. Sometimes weeks later be like, okay, where
Speaker 1: am I coming from? Okay, just talked to Chuck on
Speaker 1: the stairs, and now four weeks later we're shooting the
Speaker 1: continuous part of this episode, which is nuts. Exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was in those hallways a couple of times, because
Speaker 1: one or the other. The second episode I was in
Speaker 1: I was in those always too, right, And um, what
Speaker 1: does Blair say at that point too? She's like, seniors
Speaker 1: get a free pass like pregnant ladies or fourteen year
Speaker 1: old Chinese gymnasts. Exactly. There needs to be like a
Speaker 1: card game of just like her little zingers, because it's
Speaker 1: like she is nuts man flair sometimes. And I remember
Speaker 1: late and just in that scene, I don't remember if
Speaker 1: it was written, but she just grabbed my arm in
Speaker 1: like we're going to be pals, but it's a little aggressive,
Speaker 1: but it was so She's grabbed me to walk with her,
Speaker 1: and it just was such a I remember that moment
Speaker 1: informed my response so much. I have a strong memory
Speaker 1: of that of just Layton being like, let me teach
Speaker 1: you a lesson and pulling me in and right. It
Speaker 1: really helped me be like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm the teacher, right like it gave your response was
Speaker 1: like just living in you because of how what you
Speaker 1: played off of. Yeah, exactly what you're saying, Yeah exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Layton was really good at those kind of things, throwing you.
Speaker 1: She would throw you, but it made you be on
Speaker 1: your toes to keep it fresh and real. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's funny and there was times I was like,
Speaker 1: thank god I didn't break there, but I hope my
Speaker 1: performance yeah, yeah, I think I almost broke when she
Speaker 1: grabbed my arm and I was like, Nope, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be charmed by this. Yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: if it was written then she and she still did
Speaker 1: it in a way that three you was amazing. And
Speaker 1: if it wasn't, I think it's great that like she
Speaker 1: threw that in there because it probably you know, just
Speaker 1: added to the scene. But you guys were both very
Speaker 1: powerful in that because I was like, wait, what is
Speaker 1: going to go down? What's happening? Because it was like
Speaker 1: tug of war again, And whenever you have this tug
Speaker 1: of war with Blair, if someone can hang with her,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, now you got me, Now you got
Speaker 1: my attention, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Rachel did not know what she was getting I
Speaker 1: know Rachel did not know what she was getting into
Speaker 1: with Blair. You know, Rachel like she's about there's like
Speaker 1: a war that's about to go down. Yeah, exactly. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she does not know what she's stepping into. What about
Speaker 1: stepping into this opera situation? Which have you ever been?
Speaker 1: You know? I have not, I have been. I was
Speaker 1: a ballet dancer for many years and I have been
Speaker 1: to the Met Opera a bunch to see ballet. But
Speaker 1: I was thinking back, and I've never seen a live opera.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of videos of opera, but I've
Speaker 1: never actually been live. And it's weird because I was like,
Speaker 1: I've been to the Met a bunch. I was like,
Speaker 1: but no, I never actually saw opera live. Okay, And
Speaker 1: I also want to pause for a second, and I
Speaker 1: meant to talk about this earlier. I used to think
Speaker 1: growing up and I was a dancer at all. If
Speaker 1: someone said what you want to be when you get older,
Speaker 1: I'd always say a ballerina because I just think it's
Speaker 1: the dopest, coolest, elegant, chic ist thing. So that's amazing
Speaker 1: that you did that. But can you tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about that is? I mean, that is like
Speaker 1: the most beautiful and I feel like, very difficult and painful,
Speaker 1: but so graceful. I don't know. I find saying the
Speaker 1: ballet fascinating. I love the ballet. I still did when
Speaker 1: if you if I'm like in a rabbit hole on YouTube,
Speaker 1: I'm usually watching ballet performances. Um, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how you got into acting and whatnot, but as
Speaker 1: a little girl, like I danced around the house, I
Speaker 1: sang around the house. I like you, was like, I
Speaker 1: want to be that right, And my mom put me
Speaker 1: in ballet class and I really liked it. And then
Speaker 1: I saw The nut Cracker when I was four, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to I want to be
Speaker 1: in the nut Cracker. She was like okay, uh and uh.
Speaker 1: And my parents are very supportive, but they were not
Speaker 1: in the arts themselves, but they let me keep doing
Speaker 1: classes and whatnot. And I then trained in Philadelphia with
Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania Ballet. It's the rock school in Pennsilvania. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just super impressive and so amazing, Like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: It's the truth though, Princeton Ballet, the roles you've done,
Speaker 1: and then you're just also like a sweet, lovely person.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's so true though, and and I
Speaker 1: just and then I got to do The Nutcracker and
Speaker 1: that was like a dream come true. And I danced
Speaker 1: in The Nutcracker for many years. And I love ballet.
Speaker 1: I loved it when I was dancing. There to me
Speaker 1: when yes, it's hard, there's discipline in it, but there's
Speaker 1: a freedom in it too. It's kind of like acting, right,
Speaker 1: Like you drill your scenes, you work on it. You
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels difficult when you're trying to crack through
Speaker 1: something in a scene, and then once you're on set
Speaker 1: and you're doing it or you're on stage, it's just
Speaker 1: flowing right and you just feel it's like a freedom.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel that way. I feel
Speaker 1: like a freedom in a seen. Um, once you've put
Speaker 1: in the work, and that's like the best feeling. That's
Speaker 1: the best feeling. And dances the same way, like, yes,
Speaker 1: you're at the bar, you're in rehearsal, but once you're
Speaker 1: out there, you're just letting go. Um. When I was about,
Speaker 1: I want to say, I was like sixteen, I started
Speaker 1: acting doing musical theater stuff, and you kind of have
Speaker 1: to decide at that age if you're going to join
Speaker 1: a company and just do ballet or not. And um,
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to act and do other things.
Speaker 1: So I stepped back a little bit from dance at
Speaker 1: that point and still danced and still kind of take
Speaker 1: ballet bars and classes and stuff. But that's incredible, but
Speaker 1: acting became my my focus at that age. So that's
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful and awesome. It's it's great and my
Speaker 1: friends who are still in it are super you know,
Speaker 1: just disciplined. You said that. It's Yeah, there's like this
Speaker 1: like picture of the inside of the foot of a
Speaker 1: ballerina and it's bloody and cut. It looks like gnarly,
Speaker 1: and then there's like the beautiful picture with like the
Speaker 1: ballet's lebron and it says something like you don't know
Speaker 1: what all goes into it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like it's like when a song comes out, people think like, oh,
Speaker 1: they just recorded it and not you know, there's well
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, like as if I'm like a singer.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I know exactly how it is to
Speaker 1: be a ballerine and a singer, but you just don't know.
Speaker 1: And I always liked that little the picture in the
Speaker 1: quote because it's true, like you only see the finished product.
Speaker 1: You don't know like the blood, sweat and tears that
Speaker 1: go into things. Yeah. But anyways, if they're all going
Speaker 1: to the opera, I have never been. You have not been.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was like a Really That's what
Speaker 1: was always really cool about Gossip Girl because they we
Speaker 1: had scenes like this in places like that that we
Speaker 1: got to spend all day in and dress up and
Speaker 1: be all fancy and that was great. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, do you think it was too soon
Speaker 1: for Lily to be bringing rufus out, not even in public,
Speaker 1: because it's not to say like if you keep it
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, that's okay. I mean like it's I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just really soon to be moving up,
Speaker 1: Like there's just a lot going on. But then again,
Speaker 1: these feelings for rufus have always kind of been on
Speaker 1: the surface, floating around, you know. But do you feel
Speaker 1: like that was like a lot because I kind of do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to tell people how to grieve
Speaker 1: and what the right step is and and what had
Speaker 1: and if that's what she needs to do now kind
Speaker 1: of like to gone. But and I think in some
Speaker 1: ways she wanted to say, I stand by this, I
Speaker 1: stand by us. I'm willing to show you off and
Speaker 1: not hide you and hide my feelings. But it was
Speaker 1: a lot, and it felt very I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: not just soon, it's just it's a big step and
Speaker 1: she has her kids, you know, there's there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of um, I don't know, if it's a choice
Speaker 1: I would make maybe, right. Yeah, And again there's it's
Speaker 1: like right, it's like we were saying earlier, there's just
Speaker 1: so much going on and the emotions that everyone dealing with,
Speaker 1: like and not on top of it, they just she
Speaker 1: just found out that rufus found out that there's a baby,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's like she just lost
Speaker 1: her husband, but yet she maybe seeing her child that
Speaker 1: she gave up for adoption over twenty years ago. Like
Speaker 1: those are two from one end to the other, Like,
Speaker 1: couldn't be. That's so wild. Yeah. I used that word
Speaker 1: a lot on this on this podcast, wild because I
Speaker 1: just it's it is because it is wild. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. It's like she lost it and like
Speaker 1: there's so many things going on and that's why. And
Speaker 1: then she's adopting Chuck. Yes, she's adopting Chuck just you
Speaker 1: know at the opera, like all right, I was going
Speaker 1: to adopt you, let me go do that, and it's
Speaker 1: and take over this billion dollar company exactly. And so
Speaker 1: there's so much going on that I think she almost
Speaker 1: wants the There is something nice in her saying in
Speaker 1: all of this, I support us as a couple and
Speaker 1: I want you to know that. But it's just there's
Speaker 1: so much noise around it. It's almost like maybe waiting
Speaker 1: a little bit would have been yeah, yeah, take it,
Speaker 1: just like just you think it's a lot, and like
Speaker 1: you think it's a lot. Yeah, I mean even a
Speaker 1: couple of episodes when she got a call from Bart
Speaker 1: and hadn't listened to the voicemail yet and after found out,
Speaker 1: you know, that he had gotten into the accident, and
Speaker 1: Rufus is like, I'll be there with you to listen
Speaker 1: to the message. And I'm like, wait, that's like such
Speaker 1: a nice thing, but it's also so loaded because I
Speaker 1: don't even know even if it's like the nicest, sweetest message,
Speaker 1: that's still like would be so hard to hear from
Speaker 1: someone that you're not going to see again, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So there's just they do a lot
Speaker 1: in this show where it's like oh, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't get it, but like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think there are a couple that feels like
Speaker 1: they've been through so much together, right like I mean,
Speaker 1: they're there are a new couple, but you know they've
Speaker 1: lived life together parallel in in each other's lives for
Speaker 1: so long that, Yeah, I feel like they're just feel
Speaker 1: very connected, they feel very connected that they're willing, they're
Speaker 1: able to do things that I think other maybe new
Speaker 1: couples couldn't do together. Right, Yes, it's very true. And
Speaker 1: then their kids are like maybe dating at the same
Speaker 1: time at the same time, you know, as as it's
Speaker 1: just simple, simple little thing, you know, really easy. Um.
Speaker 1: And then okay, so they're they're the opera. Then Vanessa
Speaker 1: and Nate are there on a date and it's so
Speaker 1: cute because Vanessa goes and gets tickets on her own
Speaker 1: Vanessa for you, I know. And then so cute, Nate's
Speaker 1: trying to like squash or like pushed to the side
Speaker 1: that he had a box from because he wants her
Speaker 1: to feel like good about it, which was very sweet
Speaker 1: and cute. Yeah, and I loved, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: It was so funny because I was watching back and
Speaker 1: I had completely forgot about the woman that sits next
Speaker 1: to us, and she's just coughing and coffing and coffee
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, like, that's hard to do because
Speaker 1: it's like completely quiet. It's not like when you're watching
Speaker 1: there's like sounds they put in right the background noise, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, they add a little bit of music there.
Speaker 1: They add that, you know, people talk sucking. When you're
Speaker 1: actually filming a scene, it is like so quiet that
Speaker 1: you could hear a pin drop. So her having a
Speaker 1: cough like that, and then it drives your throat out.
Speaker 1: I mean, she did a really good job. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it took a ton, but I
Speaker 1: just when I was watching it because it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a funny situation. But I felt bad because
Speaker 1: I know that that like doing that in a scene
Speaker 1: is like not easy. It's hard. Yeah, it wears on
Speaker 1: your because you also need to make it sound super real.
Speaker 1: When you don't when you're not coughing, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make it sound real. And she like
Speaker 1: she built it right where it's like a little bit.
Speaker 1: Then it started and I thought she did a great
Speaker 1: job coughing, And I was thinking that, you know, when
Speaker 1: we did it, it was like funny just that she's coughing,
Speaker 1: and it would be annoying. And now in this like
Speaker 1: COVID world, oh my god, it has like a whole
Speaker 1: new meaning. I'd be like, I feel like everyone would
Speaker 1: be like running from that area, ye having like a
Speaker 1: hand sanitizer math in between, But it was it was
Speaker 1: very funny moment, and you two were hilarious in that
Speaker 1: with your response in the laughing. It just it was
Speaker 1: she just kind of brought it. It actually ended up
Speaker 1: being like funny, like actually without having to really do
Speaker 1: a ton with it, but that whole thing was just
Speaker 1: like so funny to me, Like she does this, then
Speaker 1: there's these seats there and then of course you're invited
Speaker 1: to go from Blair who basically does this whole prank
Speaker 1: or yeah, where she's like she sends me to a
Speaker 1: restaurant that's closed. And you know, when I was rewatching it,
Speaker 1: I forgot that there's this moment when she calls me
Speaker 1: to invite me, and Rachel says something like she's saying, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, I don't think it's a good idea. Don't
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea. And then she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I have always wanted to go. And I remember thinking
Speaker 1: that's the moment when Rachel started to break her morals, right,
Speaker 1: Like she Rachel comes in and she wants to be
Speaker 1: the moral high ground, right, She's going to teach her
Speaker 1: students not just academics, but how to be in the
Speaker 1: world and how to follow the rules. And I think
Speaker 1: she really very much played that in such a believable way,
Speaker 1: Like that was so rad what you did, like even
Speaker 1: you with with the Serena situation and even coming in
Speaker 1: when you first meet them, and then your first situation
Speaker 1: with Blair, like you feel that in every every time
Speaker 1: she was very genuine. At least I chose to play
Speaker 1: her very and I think she was very genuine. But
Speaker 1: she gets kind of sucked into this world, right, and
Speaker 1: then in the next episode she's like, well, if I'm
Speaker 1: already fired, I get right. But this moment which everyone
Speaker 1: does in this world, like you sawhow like you crossed
Speaker 1: Blair Chalk and you're you're, you're, you're in for it,
Speaker 1: and so I think that moment I forgot that. It's
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode. It really is just
Speaker 1: like a moment that the writer is put in of
Speaker 1: She starts to crack and she's like, well, I have
Speaker 1: always wanted to go to the opera, right, and then
Speaker 1: she takes the next step and takes a train to
Speaker 1: go see her student in Brooklyn. Right. Like there's these
Speaker 1: like little moments where she starts to crack and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, right, right, right, and then then Blair
Speaker 1: led her astray and she's not happy about that. Right. Wait,
Speaker 1: and what was the um? I was talking about it
Speaker 1: with Shelby, who's like our dear family friend here she
Speaker 1: I was talking about this episode with her and she's like, wait,
Speaker 1: she's like, your the student's age. What was the reason? Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm blanking right now that you
Speaker 1: were close to our age and able to be teaching
Speaker 1: at the school because you explained They explained that in
Speaker 1: the beginning, which was very smart of the writing, because
Speaker 1: you really do look at you and you're like because
Speaker 1: he even Dan says it. Dan says, yeah, there's Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's twenty five, so she's already graduated and done a
Speaker 1: couple of years of teacher America. So she's not she's
Speaker 1: not actually, but she looks the same age and gets mistaken.
Speaker 1: I think when Serena and Dan first see her struggling
Speaker 1: with the door, Serena is like, Dan says, who's the
Speaker 1: new student, and Serena is like, no, no, that's my
Speaker 1: Shakespeare teacher. And then one of them says, does she
Speaker 1: have Benjamin button? Syndrome or something. So she's supposed to
Speaker 1: look like a student, but she's actually a teacher and
Speaker 1: then is still like a young like if you're eighteen
Speaker 1: and you have a year old teacher at that time
Speaker 1: when you're a senior, you sin is really old, but
Speaker 1: like it's really you know, and like though you know,
Speaker 1: I will say Rachel was the teacher and should not
Speaker 1: have crossed those lines. But yeah, but I mean, you're
Speaker 1: getting sucked into that world. And that's the other thing
Speaker 1: I can't now, and I can't wait for the next
Speaker 1: couple episodes because I don't even remember remotely what goes on,
Speaker 1: but I can only you know with what happens. I mean,
Speaker 1: it gets clearly there's going to be something with Dan,
Speaker 1: but oh yeah it was. I'm not supposed to spoil
Speaker 1: that in this sorry, No, I mean it does because
Speaker 1: you end up in Brooklyn, like you know, you're not
Speaker 1: going out there to just literally have coffee at the thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're like dropping little like
Speaker 1: easter eggs for us to be like, okay, keep us hooked,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Okay, so you get
Speaker 1: when you get this phone call from from Blair, you
Speaker 1: call the head mistress to basically kind of like give
Speaker 1: all of this to her, because it's basically you that is,
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, Blair, you want to play now you're
Speaker 1: not going to get into Yale. Yeah, basically you just
Speaker 1: like drop you know, you dropped the mic right there? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. Blair runs to call it off because she
Speaker 1: finds out from the head mistress that I reached out
Speaker 1: to her to say. Blair is concerned about this be
Speaker 1: what do I do? And the head mistress says, don't worry.
Speaker 1: If she continues to get a's, she'll still have an
Speaker 1: A and get into Yale. And so Blair realizes I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to destroy with that one grade her chances
Speaker 1: of getting into Yale. So she runs to try to
Speaker 1: fix it with Rachel, but Rachel's already like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just you you went you crossed a line here,
Speaker 1: even though Rachel says, I accept your apology. Yes, So
Speaker 1: then she the head mistress to explain that Blair like, hey,
Speaker 1: later they referred to it as hazing. Has Dr Pranketer
Speaker 1: sent her into a park that was empty and no
Speaker 1: one was there. All the situations happening at the opera.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a busy net of the opera is okay.
Speaker 1: And then Jack and Lily so after the news about
Speaker 1: Bass Industries, Jack follows Lily into the bathroom. Dan asked
Speaker 1: Chuck at hes seen Lily, and Chuck says she was
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom a while ago at the powder
Speaker 1: room and he tries to open the door and it's locked.
Speaker 1: Chuck does and then this is the moment we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier where all of a sudden, Chuck is
Speaker 1: like coming in and walking in at a moment that's
Speaker 1: like very devastating and horrible and no situation that any
Speaker 1: man or woman wants to be in where you are
Speaker 1: alone with someone who is trying to harm you. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's very scary. No, it's it's to me, it's yes,
Speaker 1: it's a violation like that is very very fearful, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and terrifying the fact that this was this is her
Speaker 1: husband who just passed brother, this is Chuck's uncle, this
Speaker 1: is her brother in law, and he is just so
Speaker 1: nasty that yeah, he's like and then Chuck comes in
Speaker 1: and kind of saves the day for her, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's just saved him and he comes and saves her,
Speaker 1: and just that Chuck knew what it meant that that
Speaker 1: door was locked and that Jack had been around and
Speaker 1: Jack was upset, and that that he put every he
Speaker 1: put everything in there, He connected the dots, he put
Speaker 1: it all together. He connected all the dots pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: And I also think the way that the scene, that
Speaker 1: whole sequence was edited and directed it it really built
Speaker 1: that tension. And just that moment when Chuck is looking
Speaker 1: around and he puts it together and he's like, I
Speaker 1: gotta get in there was it's a yeah, he put
Speaker 1: it together really fast, and it was very tense watching it.
Speaker 1: It was tense and it was super obviously that's our
Speaker 1: jobs to make it believable, but in in that amount
Speaker 1: of time, like walking from this scene to that scene
Speaker 1: to put everything together was pretty quick. Say, I totally
Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying, like the tension that was
Speaker 1: built up to then feel like, oh my god, someone's
Speaker 1: got to get in there to savor but how is
Speaker 1: he going to put it together? But that that's like
Speaker 1: the wise, brilliant part of Chuck even though he's you know,
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years old, and it was just very Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just the way he connected those dots and
Speaker 1: saved her. Was I had all these emotions going on
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh my gosh, now he has to
Speaker 1: go and fight his uncle to help his step mom
Speaker 1: to you know, and he's still his heart is still
Speaker 1: in this painful you know. Yeah, it's the sense he's
Speaker 1: it's situations. We talk a lot, right, He's a he's
Speaker 1: a kid handling these adult things sometimes very often on
Speaker 1: his own. Right. He just feels on his own handling
Speaker 1: these moments, right, it's very grown up moments, if you will. Right,
Speaker 1: to have to confront his his uncle in that way,
Speaker 1: I have to confront his uncle who is hurting his
Speaker 1: step mom in this like locked bathroom at this very
Speaker 1: public place. Well, yeah, just just all these layers of that,
Speaker 1: and like, man, you've got a lot going on, and you're,
Speaker 1: you know, you're holding it together even though he's you know,
Speaker 1: trying to numb a lot of things. He's also holding
Speaker 1: it together for how much he has on his plate
Speaker 1: in a way too, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: give me one of those things, and I'm I don't
Speaker 1: even know, right, you know what I mean? It's yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it's just he's such a great character
Speaker 1: and play him so well in this like he does
Speaker 1: terrible things, but you have my heart feels for him still, right,
Speaker 1: It's like it's just it's and this is one of
Speaker 1: those I just there was a shot on his face
Speaker 1: after it all happens, and my heart just broke for
Speaker 1: him for every you know, and just what Lily just
Speaker 1: went through all of it, right, it's a it was
Speaker 1: a really it's an intense moment to watch so intense,
Speaker 1: and then that the piece between that that happens with them,
Speaker 1: it's like it spoke volumes of Lily when she says,
Speaker 1: I don't want the jet, I don't want the company.
Speaker 1: I just want you. Because there is always this thing
Speaker 1: of Lily on the Upper east Side and how she
Speaker 1: she looks, and you know that she did marry bart Bass.
Speaker 1: There's like a little bit there where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: she likes the money and she likes that even though
Speaker 1: she's still trying to be the best mom she wants
Speaker 1: to be. And there is this love for Rufus, who's
Speaker 1: this single dad who lives in you know, quote unquote Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: even though that loft is probably more expensive than some
Speaker 1: of those East Side places. But I thought that was
Speaker 1: a big moment not just to take Chuck in and
Speaker 1: really be there for him, like, but that it wasn't
Speaker 1: about any of that, because that's a moment in truth
Speaker 1: most people, even if you aren't in it for that,
Speaker 1: you're not going to give up a billion dollar company.
Speaker 1: Even if you were hands down however, heels in love
Speaker 1: with Bart, you still may be like, well, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably take a little bit of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So the fact that she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good, like I don't want any of it, I
Speaker 1: just want yours is like a very gangster of her.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think that moment made me.
Speaker 1: I had a moment watching it back. I was like, right,
Speaker 1: Lily is in this world, She's of this world. She
Speaker 1: operates in this world. But she has so much heart
Speaker 1: and as we discussed earlier, warmth, and she cares and
Speaker 1: she cares about him and she just wants him to
Speaker 1: be okay. And yeah, she's willing. She's not in it
Speaker 1: for that. As you said, that's exactly right. Also not
Speaker 1: to like because this is like a serious conversation and
Speaker 1: moment in the show. But like, is Lily just going
Speaker 1: to be everyone's mom. On the Upper East Side, she's like,
Speaker 1: could be you know, Dan and Jenny's, and then she's
Speaker 1: Eric and Sermina, she's taken and chucked. Then there's like
Speaker 1: another love child somewhere running around like she's she may
Speaker 1: just be every mom and that's his mom. Do I mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, right, going to create And I
Speaker 1: always to watch doing these rewatches, and it's not really
Speaker 1: a rewatch for me. I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1: I'm really watching most of them for the first time.
Speaker 1: I really love Chuck and Lily's relationship and storyline all
Speaker 1: the way through all of these they have a really
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic. There's a love and a respect, but yet
Speaker 1: there's still like that step mom steps some kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and then she calls him Charles, which was a really
Speaker 1: interesting choice. Yeah, and she kind of talks about that
Speaker 1: on her episode. But I really like those two. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, growing up, when I'd watch shows and
Speaker 1: it would cut to like the parents scenes, sometimes you
Speaker 1: kind of for me, I'm not not you, I would,
Speaker 1: you know, can't wait for it to get back to
Speaker 1: the kids in high school. I couldn't wait for you know,
Speaker 1: to get to this storyline that doesn't happen on this
Speaker 1: show for me, Like when I'm when I'm Lily draws
Speaker 1: you in so much Rufus does, Bart does, Like all
Speaker 1: the storylines are so so much going on and so
Speaker 1: powerful and so daw dropping that it's just, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just never watching it back this time, I'm like, or
Speaker 1: watching it, I'm like, wow, I never knew how much
Speaker 1: I liked their storylines. I remember reading them and thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cute. How they are. You know, here's another dynamic.
Speaker 1: But I think they both play it so well and
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. Yeah, they play really well. And
Speaker 1: they're also just so woven into this show, right, the
Speaker 1: complexities of the show when the storylines and it all
Speaker 1: kind of comes together. They were not like these separate things,
Speaker 1: if you know which I think I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1: There's certain shows where it's like and now it's the
Speaker 1: parents scene and you're like, just get back to the
Speaker 1: next scene. Yeah, not always like on Shameless. I didn't
Speaker 1: find that either. Shameless. I think they did a great
Speaker 1: job with it, you know what I mean, Like when
Speaker 1: they went to Chanola and they went to Frank like
Speaker 1: you were dialed in. So some shows do a great
Speaker 1: deals on those stories together really well. Yeah, and some
Speaker 1: shows I could literally care less, like get back to
Speaker 1: the drunk. Yeah, And then it cuts to you at
Speaker 1: this point, go at Miss Carr in Brooklyn with Dan,
Speaker 1: which you know you mentioned this a little bit ago,
Speaker 1: where you're like that probably was inappropriate for her to
Speaker 1: take Dan up on coming, you know, like heading to
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and going to the you know, gallery coffee shop.
Speaker 1: But did you know at this point when you read
Speaker 1: the script and you said you didn't know it was
Speaker 1: a guest star, but then obviously it was reoccurring because
Speaker 1: you do more um, which also speaks again of how
Speaker 1: much they like you and how good you did with
Speaker 1: this role or how well you were as Miss Carr.
Speaker 1: But did you know where your story was going? Because
Speaker 1: sometimes on shows you get the scripts a couple of them.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you only get it week to week, Like did
Speaker 1: you know when it cut here you're going to Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: What was up in the next episode? Or no? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: so I can't remember if I had this script yet
Speaker 1: or not. At my fitting, Um, I do have a
Speaker 1: little story which is my my now husband. I just
Speaker 1: met him when I booked this job, and I said
Speaker 1: to him, I booked a teacher on this show, and
Speaker 1: he'd never seen the show. He's like, what student are
Speaker 1: you gonna hook up with? It was like, oh my,
Speaker 1: she's like Serena's mentor and she I think she gets
Speaker 1: into it with this other character, Blair. And he's still
Speaker 1: like I was right. He was like, I think if
Speaker 1: they're bringing a teacher on, there's gonna be I was
Speaker 1: like no, And then I was at my fitting and
Speaker 1: I didn't have the I definitely didn't have the next script.
Speaker 1: And I always like because you could find some stuff
Speaker 1: out in the fittings, like if the script wasn't ready yet,
Speaker 1: it could be like, yeah, we know that this is
Speaker 1: gonna happen, we don't have the scenes. I always kind
Speaker 1: of liked that because you could kind of get a
Speaker 1: little scoop yes exactly. And so somebody was like, this
Speaker 1: is perfect for when she kisses him. I was like,
Speaker 1: when I come again, I was like, um, And then
Speaker 1: I think I maybe didn't have the script. I just
Speaker 1: had my audition sides and this wasn't in it. And
Speaker 1: then when I saw this, I knew where it was
Speaker 1: headed and you know, when you're playing a character and
Speaker 1: they don't make choices you would make, you still have
Speaker 1: to justify those choices. And I think I remember it
Speaker 1: was a long time ago, but Rachel's lonely. She's by
Speaker 1: herself in New York for the first time. I think
Speaker 1: in her mind she was like, he's nice, it's a gallery.
Speaker 1: I want to see Brooklyn. Like she's not going to
Speaker 1: see him. In her mind, she's going to the gallery
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and he's there, right, But she does feel
Speaker 1: some sort of connection to him. But I think it's
Speaker 1: not acknowledging to herself with that connection as yet, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense, she's justifying it, but she's already beginning
Speaker 1: to justify behavior that is probably a little It looked
Speaker 1: like you can go visit your student at a gallery.
Speaker 1: It's just she then, you know, yeah, exactly. I think
Speaker 1: in her mind is like, I'm just like going to
Speaker 1: the gallery, like you're going to meet your student at
Speaker 1: the gallery. Meanwhile, Blair is getting into attention, which you
Speaker 1: would give your students, you know, like you'd be giving
Speaker 1: the teacher to attention for the choices she's making. So
Speaker 1: but we'll flip it on you. You out there and
Speaker 1: we'll just give to Blair and it's fine. And what
Speaker 1: does she say? She comes out. Blair walks out, and
Speaker 1: Deronda is there with the bulldog and she says, oh,
Speaker 1: is it war And she says, yes, but this one
Speaker 1: will be different. I need to wait for my moment
Speaker 1: and then I'm going going black black. I'm like Blair.
Speaker 1: And she's like walking down the hall very slow, like
Speaker 1: you can see her like thinking of like her brain
Speaker 1: is just going Deronda with the dog Like it's just
Speaker 1: too it's too funny and too cute and too good
Speaker 1: because she did you know, she's kind of already done
Speaker 1: one thing right and now she's like she's in it.
Speaker 1: She's going to go all the way and it's such
Speaker 1: a good moment. It pulls back and she's like you
Speaker 1: just said, she's just walking down there, and I'm also like, girl,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like you can't do much more.
Speaker 1: You piste off the person that's going to what's gonna
Speaker 1: help you? Now, the teacher that could have this other
Speaker 1: you know, the head mistress could have helped. You've just
Speaker 1: you're burning the bridges all along. But then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, she'll like go get chuck and then they'll
Speaker 1: both burn every bridge and somehow she'll be at Yale
Speaker 1: and like running everything at Yale. Yeah, but she's burned
Speaker 1: on it. It's it is. It's just like she just
Speaker 1: had to be she just had to like make sure
Speaker 1: the next papers were all a's and then she went outside.
Speaker 1: But instead right making it hard, she's like mad about
Speaker 1: that one thing. She makes it harder. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: also the fun exactly. Oh my gosh. So here's the
Speaker 1: closing Gossip Girl quote. The thing about new beginnings is
Speaker 1: that they require something else to end. Some endings take
Speaker 1: a long time to reveal themselves, but when they do,
Speaker 1: they're almost too easy to ignore. Some beginnings start so
Speaker 1: quietly you don't even notice they're happening, But most endings
Speaker 1: come when you least expect them, and what they pretend
Speaker 1: is darker than you've ever imagined. Not all beginnings are
Speaker 1: cause for celebration. A lot of bad things begin fights,
Speaker 1: flu season, and worst thing of all one to be
Speaker 1: starting something. XO XO gossip Girl. That was a mouthful.
Speaker 1: It's a good one, though, it is a good one. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that was so fun, Thank you so much. But um,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about any anything you want
Speaker 1: us to look up look out for projects, charities, anything like.
Speaker 1: We always like hearing new stuff and we've all been
Speaker 1: you know, what everyone's been up to since it's been
Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, there's you know, some our marriage and kids,
Speaker 1: some of his work, and some people like get projects.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about and either way, but I just
Speaker 1: really want to thank you so much for being here
Speaker 1: and being a part of this, because it was a
Speaker 1: really you just had really good insight on you know,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in front of the camera, and just
Speaker 1: like your whole story and your journey and all the
Speaker 1: things is just really beautiful and wonderful. Thank you for
Speaker 1: I really I loved doing this and um going back
Speaker 1: and watching it and just you know, Memory Lane, it's
Speaker 1: always fun. And thank you for having me. It was great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't really have any thing to pitch right now
Speaker 1: or you know, tell you to look out for. I
Speaker 1: have two kids now, and I'm married to kids, and
Speaker 1: I'm acting. I kind of took a little bit of
Speaker 1: a I didn't take a break, but I would say
Speaker 1: a little step back when my daughter, my second was born,
Speaker 1: and then, um, I have been auditioning. It's all you know,
Speaker 1: it's all home tape now. It's very isolating in a way.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's like nice and not nice. But
Speaker 1: also I love that you have like a family and
Speaker 1: all that, because to me, that's like the most important
Speaker 1: thing in life. Like so it's good to be able
Speaker 1: to do that and still do what you love. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I love I love acting. I love it so
Speaker 1: much and I want to be doing it for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. And it was nice. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a I would say in some ways it's a
Speaker 1: good acting can be a good mom job and that
Speaker 1: if I'm not working, I can be with them a
Speaker 1: bunch and then when you are, you know you're working.
Speaker 1: You're balancing it. But it's been really great to spend
Speaker 1: a ton of time with them, Pandemic especially made a
Speaker 1: lot of time together, uh, and just see them grow
Speaker 1: because they were so young. They're now getting a bit
Speaker 1: older and going to school, and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: really ready to get like fully fully back. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: when when I was especially when I was young, and
Speaker 1: I think I speak, I could say other people are
Speaker 1: like this. There's so much like go go go, go go,
Speaker 1: go like go, and not that I'm not still go go, go,
Speaker 1: go go, but there's just more allowing more space for things, right,
Speaker 1: not feeling like there's a ticking clock every moment and
Speaker 1: it'll it's you know, the journey is kind of nice
Speaker 1: sometimes to just be on it. So I'm I'm excited
Speaker 1: for what's coming up. I don't know what it is though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the best part about it. And that's what's
Speaker 1: also so cool too about what we do, like with you,
Speaker 1: with how talented you are, in fun to work with
Speaker 1: and everyone has wonderful things to say about you, Like
Speaker 1: the right thing will come soon and I'll laugh about
Speaker 1: this and in the next three or six months or
Speaker 1: something that you'll be like I'll be binge watching you
Speaker 1: on something for sure, and then I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: you have to come back on and we have to
Speaker 1: talk about it and promoted. Let's put that out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's um you know. And also the thing
Speaker 1: about auditions on tape is there is a fun aspect
Speaker 1: to it, right you get to kind of dive into
Speaker 1: it really deeply, though I then have to let it
Speaker 1: go at some point. Yeah, that's my problem though. Then
Speaker 1: I'm like over picking. So then instead of just going
Speaker 1: in and leaving in the room and doing it that
Speaker 1: you know, or having them give notes because I do
Speaker 1: like getting notes when you're in the room because I
Speaker 1: love it. Then then you're kind of shaping it the
Speaker 1: way they want it, but giving your flavor to it too.
Speaker 1: So when you're I like a self tape because you
Speaker 1: do have a lot of time to spend on it,
Speaker 1: and then I don't because I spend too much time
Speaker 1: on it. And I like the collaboration of people, you know,
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I feel. And then I like the
Speaker 1: like you said, notes, You then feel our job is collaborative,
Speaker 1: and sometimes when you're self taping it does not feel
Speaker 1: it feels not that. What I love is when it
Speaker 1: is collaborative and you're getting notes and yeah, shaping it
Speaker 1: well you know what's interesting? You know when not interesting.
Speaker 1: But you know, when Blair says in this episode, being
Speaker 1: good as subjective, you can look it up. I always
Speaker 1: say that about art, art subjective. So what I take
Speaker 1: on if you and I both read a script and
Speaker 1: are you know we're going out for you know, two
Speaker 1: roles in the script. The way I feel like this
Speaker 1: character may talk or do things may be very different
Speaker 1: from you, which may be very different from the writing,
Speaker 1: writers and producers. So to be in a room to
Speaker 1: kind of bring that together or get notes because sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I would have never realized you wanted
Speaker 1: her to kind of have that dynamic or that color
Speaker 1: in this scene. So that's why self tape is hard
Speaker 1: for me, I guess if you like. But the fact
Speaker 1: that we can do that because of the situation the
Speaker 1: world was in, I'm glad we did have Yes, we
Speaker 1: did as technology made a lot of things possible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and as you said, you know, I always you said,
Speaker 1: like we we could have different takes. It's like I
Speaker 1: always like, I always think when people felt competitive with
Speaker 1: other actors that they maybe see at auditions were not
Speaker 1: I was like, why, like they're going to be It
Speaker 1: never made sense to me because I was like, they're
Speaker 1: going to bring something to it that's different than you,
Speaker 1: And it's that's the it was. I like to go
Speaker 1: and see what, you know, if I've auditioned for something,
Speaker 1: especially something I really like what happens. But what they
Speaker 1: did with yeah, because I'm like, oh, okay, oh I
Speaker 1: like that, right, And it's it's great to see a
Speaker 1: different take on something. So it is we we all
Speaker 1: have our own thing to bring to the table, and
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of our job. It totally is, and
Speaker 1: we learn from it from each role that we do
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So yeah, we're very blessed to
Speaker 1: be be able to do this for a living. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like super pumped you came on. You were incredible,
Speaker 1: Like I know we're going to get off this and
Speaker 1: everyone's going to be like, we love her. You're so sweet.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I mean, it's one I've been listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast. It's it's very addictive. I really love it.
Speaker 1: You've done a great job. Oh my god, that makes
Speaker 1: me so happy. That's so sweet. This was so fun.
Speaker 1: I had such a great time. Thank you for having
Speaker 1: me on. Yes, I loved it. Wow, that was just
Speaker 1: so much fun with you, Laura. You are a breath
Speaker 1: of fresh air and I'm so happy we got to connect.
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