WEBVTT - S2E16 You’ve Got Yale! with Laura Breckenridge

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. I'm Laura breckon Ridge. I played Rachel car and

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<v Speaker 1>Gossip Girl, and we're rewatching. You've got Yale. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to your one and only source into all things

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<v Speaker 1>gossip Chrome. You know you love it. X O x

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<v Speaker 1>O Hi everyone, welcome back to XO XL with me

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica's or. A lot has been happening recently, but today's

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<v Speaker 1>rewatch is where it starts to get really juicy. We're

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<v Speaker 1>digging into season two, episode sixteen. You've got Yale, Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>and Lily team up to try to take the company

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<v Speaker 1>back from Jack, while Blair risks her future to scheme

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<v Speaker 1>against the new teacher, Miss Carr, who gets into a

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<v Speaker 1>few scandals of her own. Speaking of that new teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Breckinridge, who plays Rachel Carr, is joining us today

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't wait to ask her about her time

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and dig into the steam are storylines

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<v Speaker 1>that she has coming up. Okay, everyone, here's Laura. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? How are you good? I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to like actually see your face in a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crazy rainstorm and I'm like you should see

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<v Speaker 1>my studio and in like a dark hole, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>making it feel much brighter because it's been forever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time me too. Shannola sends her love by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to saying that. Yes, oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to give her a big How great is she?

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<v Speaker 1>She's fabulous, She's the best fabulous. She really mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>just she just lights up every room she does. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's directing a lot now. She she directed an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Shameless. Her episode was girl, We need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>her she needs to do to be directing you and

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<v Speaker 1>I in something. Yeah, I would love that. She's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I work on auditions with her sometimes. She just always

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<v Speaker 1>has such good advice. She's she's really she's really great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that whole cast of Shameless was so incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know, so many storylines like Gossip Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>but every time you went on like her storyline was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would go to Emmy's and then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Jeremy's and every time that they all just

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<v Speaker 1>brought so much like heat to the screen, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You're always like, whoa, that's crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>they made it all work together, and um, you always

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<v Speaker 1>needed to know what was happening next and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy ride. Yeah, and and talk about a show

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<v Speaker 1>that just kept going. I mean they did like eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine seasons. I think they did eleven or in

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<v Speaker 1>the You're right, because I did. I did season eight

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<v Speaker 1>and they went on a couple of years after after. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't. I still remember when she booked the

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and I was like, how did eleven years ago

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<v Speaker 1>by already? Well? Yeah, and the kids were so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they literally grew up on that show. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>going to the table read and I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who these who everyone is? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, wait, that's because they were twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>old when you watched season one this last week. Jessica, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I mean time flies, It just does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even like with us, like it's been years, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>crazy years. Wait. I want to introduce you because I

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<v Speaker 1>got so excited. We just comped right in. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Breckinridge, and she's gonna be rewatching season two episode sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You've Got Yale, which is the title is based on

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<v Speaker 1>the romantic comedy You've Got Mail starring Meg Ryan and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Hanks. Um So that's what we're going to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want everyone to kind of get to know

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<v Speaker 1>about you if they don't already, which I'm sure most

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listening does. By the way, Before I do that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you hear the thunderstormer or no? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a rumble, but I wasn't sure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is like the craziest thunder I've ever heard in

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. Anyways, it's actually like very like cozy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, jeez, I a thunderstorm me too. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my mom used to be like, so and so

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<v Speaker 1>is bowling today in in Heaven And I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. They definitely just got a strike with that,

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<v Speaker 1>like huge thunder right there, right yeah, um, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we have you here to rewatch with us and you

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<v Speaker 1>play Rachel Carr, Miss car Um. Can do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>your casting story? And at this point, obviously season one

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<v Speaker 1>had come out, so had you heard of the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know about it because of yeah, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of shows on TV then, or because you

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<v Speaker 1>are an actor in that world, like what was your

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on? Yeah? I remember my casting story

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<v Speaker 1>very well because it's a story of you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you think something goes really well and then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear and you're like, oh, I thought I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>went well. I get and you forget about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew about the show. I actually had auditioned for the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>I auditioned for Blair, so I knew about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I went back to college. And because I had

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<v Speaker 1>taken time off to work and wasn't that in tune

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<v Speaker 1>with I knew what was airing, but I wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>tune with how things were doing. Maybe I would say um,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just didn't. I didn't have time to watch TV,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't aware. And then I auditioned. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>auditioned again. I was looking I have in my email

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<v Speaker 1>like all my old audition emails, you know, with and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know, I wanted for something else,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went in for the college student when they

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<v Speaker 1>went to visit Yale, and then I got sent this

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<v Speaker 1>audition and it was like teacher, who looks young? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, okay, I look young. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>told all the time I look young, and was it?

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<v Speaker 1>And it just you know when you read sides and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I get this like it. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of clicks for clip. Yeah, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I kind of got her. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a week in New York and there

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<v Speaker 1>were other auditions, and I think that same day I

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<v Speaker 1>had another audition for thirty Rock and Tina Feye was

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. I was like, very nervous about that audition,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one was with casting. When you were casting,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a cozier audition experience. So I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just did the scenes I did. There was

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<v Speaker 1>two scenes, I think, and there was no notes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a well that was great, thanks, thanks, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like, wait, did you like it or

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<v Speaker 1>you never know that, like give me something right. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't know if that means you nailed it

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<v Speaker 1>or like they were like that was good, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to work. And I moved on. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like with guests, it said it was a guest spot,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't say it was a recurring and they cast

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty quickly, you like here in the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, I didn't hear anything. So I moved on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was like honestly, was like two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later, maybe there was Thanksgiving between some for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long time, and my entire team called

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<v Speaker 1>me one afternoon. They're like congratulations, like for for what

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<v Speaker 1>you got it and they're like gostep girls, like wait

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<v Speaker 1>what I got it? And they're like, yeah, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a few episodes and and that was that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I called my best friend from college, who at the

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<v Speaker 1>time it wasn't she she had graduated and she works

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<v Speaker 1>in finance and she's very put together woman, very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in control, and suddenly I called her, was like, so

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<v Speaker 1>I booked an episode of Gospiel girl, you watched that show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And she just starts like hyperventilating and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I gotta hold on, hold on. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what is happening. She's like, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>had to find a conference room because I'm freaking out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I this is like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most exciting news I've ever heard. It is my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>show and you're gonna be on it. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>my first taste of just how like fans toward it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, um, she was super super excited. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, from this is speaks of how much they

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<v Speaker 1>must have liked you from the beginning of meeting you,

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<v Speaker 1>auditioning for the pilot, then bringing you back for someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and then bringing you back a third time again like

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<v Speaker 1>they were basically waiting to find something to connect, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put the pieces to the puzzle together for you, because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't keep bringing you back if they didn't love

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<v Speaker 1>what they saw. It's you know, it's a waste of

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<v Speaker 1>people's time. So that just speaks volumes that you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shined from the beginning. Maybe they didn't see you

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<v Speaker 1>as Blair, you didn't feel the connection with Blair, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it may have been. And and to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like your list of credits of what you've done, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like going to Princeton like I'm so like I

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<v Speaker 1>presston enamored and everything with what you you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>starring opposite Laura Lenny and Liam neeson Um and also

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<v Speaker 1>Gossip Girl herself Kristen Bell, like on on Broadway, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's incredible, Blue Bloods, Gray's Anatomy. I Mean, you've done

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<v Speaker 1>such amazing work. So it's like, I just that's awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Like for anyone listening as an actor when you keep

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<v Speaker 1>going back in for the same show. If you're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting roles, sometimes it does get discouraging, but like if

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<v Speaker 1>you get you feel good when they're like having you

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<v Speaker 1>come back for something else because obviously there's something there

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<v Speaker 1>they liked. So that just speaks volumes of you. It

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<v Speaker 1>also just feels really thank you. That's very nice, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and a really nice way to look at it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to you know, with casting directors, you go in

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they bring you back, and they bring you back

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<v Speaker 1>for different things. And there in my career there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of casting directors who will just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of believe in you, right, and um, there's something really

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful about knowing that support is there, even when it

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<v Speaker 1>gets discouraging, as you said sotially, like it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>keep it's not it's not fitting. Why is it not fitting?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Crucible? You mentioned Crucible, and I just remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>I went in for like three different Oh I heard that,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that I heard it's crazy that thunder to mute

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<v Speaker 1>my microphones. It doesn't interrupt our episode. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was exciting, big strike up in Heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned cruis Ball was like boom, yeah, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good show. Yeah, I think I went in for

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<v Speaker 1>that show four times for different roles in the production,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was one of the I went in and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I said to my agent, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be in this production so badly. I

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<v Speaker 1>will be the grass in the background if I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be, because I love the show and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the actors who were part of it, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like such an opportunity. And I kept feeling I

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<v Speaker 1>was having good auditions, but the you know, I went

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<v Speaker 1>in for different parts in it and it wasn't fitting.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't fitting. And then I got cast, and which

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<v Speaker 1>was I still remember that phone call. You remember those

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls when you get those jobs that you're really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. And we get to set and there was

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<v Speaker 1>actually grass on our set. Was incredible, there was grass

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. I was like, I almost like I

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<v Speaker 1>would have done too. I would have been lying. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to see them worse. And but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you brought, you bring something to I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 1>learned something from you. But that is a it's great

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<v Speaker 1>company you were with, for sure. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>had you met Kristin Bell before that, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times people don't know, like us working on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>She did her voiceovers mostly I think in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there was times she may have traveled and

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<v Speaker 1>had to go into certain studios, but I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>was years that went on that I had not met her,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Yeah, we worked together. We did Crucible a

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<v Speaker 1>few it was a few six years before Gossip Girl. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you met her there, but obviously not on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Not on no, no, no, Yeah, It's it's interesting you

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like you work intimately together, but but you don't, don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's times you could do a whole season

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<v Speaker 1>of a show and not have a scene with another

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<v Speaker 1>main character. Which is so you and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>scenes together. We didn't, but I know we shot at

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<v Speaker 1>the same locations. Yeah, Like there's always that time where

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<v Speaker 1>we are probably like crossing in the mare and makeup room,

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<v Speaker 1>or your scene was before mine or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>But we didn't actually work together. No, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a scene together, which I'm um, so we will have

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<v Speaker 1>to like get on that will work somewhere else together. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you went to Princeton, Yes, what did you study there?

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<v Speaker 1>I was a classical studies major, like that's so impressive, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like school. So I studied ancient Greek theater

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<v Speaker 1>and literature. I kind of joke that I was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>justifying my career choice. I knew when I went I

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<v Speaker 1>had already been working. I knew I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, and I wanted to study things that interested me.

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<v Speaker 1>I did acting at Princeton as well. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>major in theater there. You can major in other Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't major you can major in you can't major

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<v Speaker 1>in a trade. Basically, you can't be like a pre

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<v Speaker 1>med major. You can't be a business major. But you

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<v Speaker 1>they encourage that you learn how to be a scholar,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will how to study to learn, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a track. So I had a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who was an anthropology major on the premed track and

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<v Speaker 1>went to med school, and so I was on a

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<v Speaker 1>theater track. There is a great theater program there that

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<v Speaker 1>has just continued to grow, and there's a wonderful theater

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<v Speaker 1>scene that's there. But you're not a theater major. You're

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<v Speaker 1>either an English major with a theater track. And I

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<v Speaker 1>did classical studies and I was interested in arts place

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<v Speaker 1>in society. I would say, and how theator changes to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect the society in which it's performed in. And I

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at fifth century BC, kind of distills

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<v Speaker 1>culture in a time and you can kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>how they talked to each other. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>just fascinating by the way. I find it really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, theater Crucible, for example, we revive did

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<v Speaker 1>after nine eleven. It had been written during the McCarthy era.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it to do? What was it in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand two? What was it saying then versus what it

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<v Speaker 1>was saying in nifty and it's saying a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the same things, but it has a different relationship in

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<v Speaker 1>that time period, of course, right with its audience. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I was. I kind of studied. My

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<v Speaker 1>thesis was on media performed at different time periods in history.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my fancy and so incredible, and no, who cares,

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<v Speaker 1>Dorky's cool man. But let me ask you this. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that the show like, especially because we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into this break it's you've got Yale, it's all about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting into these Ivy League schools. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the show portrays prep schools. Yeah, correctly. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I know it's a show and there's things that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be pulled or pushed or plugged a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, you know. But I mean I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>applying to like Princeton or Yale or anything. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even go to school. So like very interested, Like did

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<v Speaker 1>they portray it well? Like is is the waiting and

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<v Speaker 1>the hype? And like the is the stress is all that? Like? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was heating right on. My high school experience was

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<v Speaker 1>very different because I didn't I went to a private school,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't a prep school. I went to professional

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<v Speaker 1>children's school and it's in New York. It's kids who

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<v Speaker 1>were working professionally that need flexible schedules and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dancers and actors and even horseback riders, tennis players,

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<v Speaker 1>and that school that I love. I love my high

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<v Speaker 1>school and that's awesome. All of my friends from high school,

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<v Speaker 1>we were super supportive of each other. Everyone pursuing their

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<v Speaker 1>own thing, write their own uh what they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do with their life, and so not everyone wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college. Some people were going to join a

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<v Speaker 1>ballet company and just do that. Some people were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a ballet company and college. Other people were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be singers. That there's just everyone had their own track

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what that school support courts. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I loved acting, and I knew I loved academia

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to go to college, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>felt very supportive. But there wasn't a competitive Uh. There

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<v Speaker 1>were other people applying to college, but I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>we were competitive in anyway. It wasn't like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode, they're like one constant student gets earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>right that I didn't. We didn't Blair and Serena, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have that at my high school. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very excited. I really wanted to go to Princeton. I

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<v Speaker 1>did apply early. It surprised me that it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the perfect fit, but um, I went and visited.

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<v Speaker 1>I had worked with somebody. They were developing Dirty Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>at the time for Broadway, and I was playing Baby

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<v Speaker 1>in the workshop and a woman had just graduated it

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<v Speaker 1>from Princeton and the writer of the show, her husband

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<v Speaker 1>was a professor Princeton, and I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they have an art scene there, Like no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they do and the woman who I was working with

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<v Speaker 1>took me to Princeton for a night to a theater

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<v Speaker 1>production by this company, Pig Iron Group. They were fabulous

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<v Speaker 1>and I left. I was like, oh that it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a fit for me. And I was very

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<v Speaker 1>happy that my school helped me find my fit right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think whatever your step is after high school,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very young at that time, but it is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find what fits for you, what's right for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not every path, Not everyone's path is going to college

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<v Speaker 1>or going to a theater school or going into the

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<v Speaker 1>right you know, trade like it. It's all very individual,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do, you know, and I think really people

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<v Speaker 1>need to know that for sure. That's so good. Once

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<v Speaker 1>I got there, and then you hear stories about the

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<v Speaker 1>prep schools, you know, it does sound those it does

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<v Speaker 1>sound intense, more intense than I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's intense. It's intense like because I think sometimes if

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a certain school, there's pressure to then continue

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<v Speaker 1>on to a certain type of education if you will. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was not my experience, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel like I was a little bit like outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking and being like is that really what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>over there because it didn't feel that way for me, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it does get competitive at certain schools,

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<v Speaker 1>certain high schools. I mean, I'm I'm sure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is gossip Girl and there's always like

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<v Speaker 1>some crazy breath being dropped, but like there's I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely an element in real life of waiting and

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<v Speaker 1>the right for sure. Actually, we have a fan question

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<v Speaker 1>for you. It's in real life, would Laura be more

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<v Speaker 1>like Miss Car, Serena or Blair? And I'm only jumping

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<v Speaker 1>right to that because Blair and Serena are so different

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get and then the fact that Serena gets

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<v Speaker 1>into Yale and Blair quite doesn't. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Miss Car that comes in, who's like so

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful and suite, you know, in the very beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we see some like devious things come out later.

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<v Speaker 1>But who would you be most like? Is what the

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<v Speaker 1>fan question is. Um, I am a rule follower and

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not cool, so so does I'm like I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm like, oh no, they said we have

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<v Speaker 1>to even you know, I was parking at the parking

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<v Speaker 1>garage here and I'm in an suv and there's all

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<v Speaker 1>these like compact spaces. I was like, I'm in an suv.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't park in there, like I'm following the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and so maybe Miss Carpet then I'm like, but not

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<v Speaker 1>where Miss car goes, right, there's there's pieces of miss

0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a little bit of each of them. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'd like to think, Um, I'm not as rigid

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<v Speaker 1>as a Miss Car right if if if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, I'm more relaxed. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else needs to. She's like, I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to I follow the rules and I'm going to teach

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you that you need to as well. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel a connection to that part. I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you do you? Right? I like that you do you

0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 1>because listen, when we all do us, it's we're okay,

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just be nice and do you be nice? To be

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<v Speaker 1>considerate of others, be thoughtful. And then although, how about

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<v Speaker 1>Blair in this episode when she's talking to m Car

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I just what does she say to you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's when she's kind of coming to apologize, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always what Blair does, She's like still got

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<v Speaker 1>an angle yeah, it's it's so good. She's like, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when she's like, I'm trying to do better that

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<v Speaker 1>part at the end, Oh yeah, she's a great line.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that line? Um, I can't not I was

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<v Speaker 1>It's something like I can't not do that right, It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it. It's so beautiful and me too, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was hiking her zingers are great. But

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<v Speaker 1>what she says to you was like she just this

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<v Speaker 1>is the way she works, like she has to like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dig into people and kind of do all

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.479
<v Speaker 1>that and she doesn't know, but she's trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's trying to be better. So here, let's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about where we left off and get into this episode

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>because there's so much that happens. I want to hear

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on things. I want to break some stuff down.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's where we left off. After reading Bart's will,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck finds out that Bart left the entire empire to Chuck,

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>but Jack plotted to get it taken away. Nelly Yuki

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>stole Dan's phone and told Gossip Girl about Lily and

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Rufus's baby. Blair told Chuck it's over for good. Serena

0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and Eric find out about the secret love child, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lillian Rufus are told that their son has died. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where we have left off, and here is what this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the logline. It's that time of year when Constance

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<v Speaker 1>Billard and St. Jude's students find out who is and

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't worthy of an early admission to Yale University. Serena

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>bonds with her new teacher, Rachel Carr, who quickly becomes

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>an enemy of Blair's. Meanwhile, Chuck pairs up with an

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>unlikely ally in his war with Jack over Bass Industries,

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<v Speaker 1>while Nate and Vanessa have a romantic night at the opera.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about Yale, and our episode starts with

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<v Speaker 1>Blair excited for the Yale Early acceptance day and she's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at her home, and Harold asked if Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be coming to the opera with them

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<v Speaker 1>that night, and she also has a dog, which was

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<v Speaker 1>so cute, that bulldog. I'm like, first of all, I

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 1>want that bulldog to come on on the podcast as well,

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>just so I can like. And they had all the

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<v Speaker 1>food was the Gale colors. It was all blue. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it was just all of it was amazing.

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>It was so like so much but so on point

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<v Speaker 1>for Blair, Yes, oh my gosh. Was was that anything

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<v Speaker 1>like your acceptance day? Like did it come with a dog?

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Did you have like people wearing sweaters and colors? I

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<v Speaker 1>wish it came with a dog. It did not. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I got in at that point, you

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<v Speaker 1>still got a letter in the mail, so you didn't

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:03.879
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what date was coming. You were told it

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>was coming by a certain date. I think this, I

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's December fifteen. Is that I have like a

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>date seared into my head um and I think I

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>had been running home that whole week and it hadn't

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>been there. And at that time, I was working in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and I was We had the apartment I

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<v Speaker 1>was staying in, we had a doorman. I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I didn't run home that one day because

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<v Speaker 1>the college counselor at my school was like, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not coming till Friday. It was like a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>or Thursday. I was like, oh, I've been running home

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<v Speaker 1>every day this week. And so I like went about

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<v Speaker 1>my business and did what I had to do that

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<v Speaker 1>evening and I got home at eight o'clock, nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>at night and my parents weren't there, and the doorman

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<v Speaker 1>was like, the envelope came and I was like, what

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 1>do you no, No, it's not it's not no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>different envelope. It's not coming till Friday. He's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bits and it was a big envelope and

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<v Speaker 1>I opened it and I started at that time. They

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<v Speaker 1>wrote just yes, and I just started screaming and it

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>was really excited. And my mom calls because she wants

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to know where I am. And I'm like and I'm

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>like vallowing. She's like, what's wrong, what's wrong? Where are you?

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Tell me where you are? I'm coming right. I was like, no,

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's prinstance. She's like, it's okay, sweetie, it's okay. Because

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you thought I was saying I didn't get in. It's

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>like no, I couldn't see. It was like, no, I

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>got in. And then everyone's jumping and shouting and people

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>were in the lobby like congratulating. So it was a

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>big moment. But there was no dog for sure. It

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was Oh my god. And I love that your doorman

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was there. He was yeah, yeah, that's so cute. Yeah,

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Still talk about it when I go home.

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Okay, so now we we are, like

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>here's like Dan in the episode is coming to the

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>penthouse to bring Stina some coffee on Yale Day, and

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>then coming down the stairs is Rufus and Lily and

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they seem closer than ever. And I mean, can we

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about this for a minute, Like can you imagine

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 1>like you're on again, off again boyfriend or girlfriend and

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>then you're over at the house and like your mom

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>or dad walks down with their mom or dad and

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm not saying anyone saying it's supposed to

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>be okay, but it's just like so complicated and a

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 1>little messy right now. And then the fact that there

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>has been a child in the mix where they you know,

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and you never know with Rufus and Lily or Serena

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>or Dan, like if they're on or off or or

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.719
<v Speaker 1>either one of them. So it's like, yeah, I don't know,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know who you root for it? Do

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you do? You? You root for Lily and Rufus now

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that Bart's out of the picture, even though I feel

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's very soon to be moving on from your

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>partner who passed, or do you you know, root for

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Serena and Dan because they have this like love story

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that we've been following for a season and a half.

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Now it's it's like a it's hard, and it's like

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I want to root for all of them, and I

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to just be that it's not their parents. You

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>can't do yourself, you can't date, you can't can you

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't I know, And it's just I think they're

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>both couples. The chemistry is so good and it's so

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you want them to be together. And so when this

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>moment is such a great moment of wait, can we

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>all have what we want in this moment? And it

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>poses that right there, it's a very stark like wait

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a minute, we thought this. Both both couples were like,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we're on right and then it's a wake up call

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>a little bit right in this moment. And then it

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>almost repeats later when they're at the opera and they

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>see their parents like fully together together. But I also

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is a moment where maybe just a

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Srina Daniel were like, Okay, we've tried it, and we

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>went back and forth on and off and like, okay,

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>there we potentially have we have a brother and sister,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like a half sister or brother somewhere in the world.

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's it. Maybe we just you know, take

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a moment, stop fighting for this, take the gloves off,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 1>and just be friends, right right, and see see what

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>comes later. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't ever have thought

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>that they have a sibling somewhere. And then like throw

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>in the mix here with potentially to their like related

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to Chuck. Oh right, they I know, right, it's all

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>connect becomes very connected. Well yeah, because even the next

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit, the next little storyline that's like so crazy

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>is Lily and Chuck losing Bart are all of them

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>lost Bart rather, but they're dealing with you know, more

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>things with the company. And you know, Chuck doesn't have

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a mother figure. He's lost his mom and now his

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>dad and now here is Lily to come. I think

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a really beautiful storyline. I really mean it's

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. It's really and I think Lily stepping up

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and and Kelly does it so beautifully. They're such warmth

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to such warmth that's like the exact word. Yeah, it's

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>just warmth of caring. Like she knows that Chuck blames

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>her and is mad at her and right and has

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>all this anger, and yet she's still she gets that,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>she understands that she's allowing space for that and saying,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for you, I want to help you. And

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really I really liked in this episode

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>how they came together even when Chuck is like pushing

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>her away and and and they have a common enemy

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>now right that they can it's right with Jack. Yeah,

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really I like this storyline. Yeah,

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>me too. And it's like what you were just saying, though,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>it's so there's so many layers to like what is

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>going on emotionally for both of them, like losing your husband,

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>losing your dad, not having family, wanting to be his family,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>then finding out that like you're old, like someone that

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you dated years ago wants to see the child that

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you gave up for adoption. Um. But then both of

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.719
<v Speaker 1>your kids are dating, but they don't know if they

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>want to date because you might get back with you know,

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>rufus if there's just so much And then Chuck's you know,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>uncle coming into town and having all these things with

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>past industries and really doesn't have any he's like nasty

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's just you know, so nasty and just selfish

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and he's coming to be his Chuck's legal

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>guardian who's like really there for the money and the

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>drugs and a girl for him and not for him,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and Chuck just needs to be loved. And then there's

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>just like Blair has been trying to like be there

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>for Chuck these last through all of this, and he's

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>just you know, trying to numb himself because he's like

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>also dealing with the loss of a father that he

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>thought never wanted him in life, like you know what

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean in those last episodes, and and that's messy, right,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like you think your father never wants to but

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you miss him, and right there's this uh and didn't

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>get to say goodbye, like gets to say goodbye. And

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>there's so many emotions going on there. And I think

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you see it throughout the episode with him and Lily

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>when she wants to help him and be there, and

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he'll have a moment and then he almost doesn't know

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>how to accept that, right, and he pushes it away,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's heartbreaking because you just want him to accept

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that love from the people who want to give it

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to him, but he's so used to not being able

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to trust that I think. So it's a I'm skipping

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>ahead to the end of the episode. But I do

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>love that they like defeat Jack together, right, and they

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>fed out for sure. It's a good moment. And then

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he saves her from the bathroom. Right, it's in the bathroom,

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's his way of showing thanks, you know, yeah,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like being there for her. Yeah. It was insane And

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even remember that scene or that happening remember either,

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And it was really Yeah, it was I was like, no, wait,

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>does that? Does that? Wait? Does that? Does it go there? Right?

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I started again, I know, and I'm like, oh my gosh,

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what is he doing? Yeah? Yeah? And then how about

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Serena coming? She tells you, she tells Miss Carr that

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>she gets accepted to Yale. Do you remember those scenes?

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember filming at Constance? I do remember. My

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>first day was at the art gallery, my first day shooting,

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and we shot the very last of the name. Yeah.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>But I remember those hallways and it's a great set.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And what people may we don't know, uh, is that

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you know when you're walking those hallways it's like four

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>hallways and then you sometimes have to tie them together

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so you're like walk and then you come in a

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>different angle to make it look like a different hallway

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>or you know, we feel it's all like wood and

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and chords exactly where you film. You know, we filmed

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>me coming into the school and the exterior set, and

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>then you have to pick up coming into the interior set,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, then movie magic puts it all together.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And I do remember shooting. I really liked that day.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a fun day. That was like my first

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>day with everyone where I really got to know everyone

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn or and constant, because in Brooklyn it was

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>just with pen really, yeah exactly. Or at the at

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the coffee shop. Yeah, and I your character says something, Brooklyn,

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the place across the bridge. Right. It was like

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>always dying because it was always like Brooklyn was so far.

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm like that place is expensive. Everyone wants

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to hang out there. Everyone knows Brooklyn. Now. Back then

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>she was like it's across the bridge. Yeah. I also,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I always remember shooting the scene with Blair and I

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>can't remember if it was in the script that she

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>takes my arm when She's like, let me tell you

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>how it works here. But I remember, this isn't when

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>she first meets you though, No, is that later it's when, yeah,

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>this is this is not this scene, sorry, yeah, this

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>is I first enter with Serena and Dan, and then

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's after I give her the b paper and then

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that's right. She you say something about no one holds

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the doors like these kids, you know, yes, that's like

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>my opening scene, like no one's opening the door, right,

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and so they helped me through the door. I had

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I had bags. I had a lot of props. I

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>remember that, Like you had bags, books, you have had

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it all very rood of those kids, very road. You

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>hold the door for people that can't open the door. Rachel.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>You know she she takes her papers everywhere. I like,

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>she had rolla and her books and all of it.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And I had two bags. But it helped with the

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>clumsiness of that scene and feeling awkward and out of

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>place in the school where everyone is like carrying like

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>cute little purses, Like where do they write their books?

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Since they have cute little purses, what is in that purse? Raiser?

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Cell phones? Because they where everyone was using. I love

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it they had to like, you know, you had a

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>type the texting, you know, three times to get a

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>times to get a letter. I remember, yeah, gosh exactly,

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it was it was fun shooting that day.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It was really that was a fun day. I forgot

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>about those hallways because I didn't film at that school

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that much, so I've actually forgotten that. That was like

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a little fun fact. Yeah. Yeah, and the courtyards actually

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. The interior courtyard is on a sound stage,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but the entrance to the school is actually a building

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>near Central Park. We would shoot on location at so

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you would be outside and exterior saying your dialogue in

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>your lines, and then you sometimes would walk up the

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.919
<v Speaker 1>stairs and then it would cut and then you would

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>continue the scene. Sometimes weeks later be like, okay, where

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>am I coming from? Okay, just talked to Chuck on

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the stairs, and now four weeks later we're shooting the

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>continuous part of this episode, which is nuts. Exactly. Yeah,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in those hallways a couple of times, because

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. The second episode I was in

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I was in those always too, right, And um, what

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>does Blair say at that point too? She's like, seniors

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>get a free pass like pregnant ladies or fourteen year

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>old Chinese gymnasts. Exactly. There needs to be like a

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>card game of just like her little zingers, because it's

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like she is nuts man flair sometimes. And I remember

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>late and just in that scene, I don't remember if

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it was written, but she just grabbed my arm in

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like we're going to be pals, but it's a little aggressive,

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was so She's grabbed me to walk with her,

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and it just was such a I remember that moment

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>informed my response so much. I have a strong memory

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>of that of just Layton being like, let me teach

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you a lesson and pulling me in and right. It

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>really helped me be like no, no, no, no, no,

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm the teacher, right like it gave your response was

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like just living in you because of how what you

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>played off of. Yeah, exactly what you're saying, Yeah exactly. Yeah.

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Layton was really good at those kind of things, throwing you.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>She would throw you, but it made you be on

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>your toes to keep it fresh and real. Uh yeah,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and she's funny and there was times I was like,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>thank god I didn't break there, but I hope my

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>performance yeah, yeah, I think I almost broke when she

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>grabbed my arm and I was like, Nope, I'm not

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be charmed by this. Yeah, and you know what,

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>if it was written then she and she still did

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it in a way that three you was amazing. And

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't, I think it's great that like she

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>threw that in there because it probably you know, just

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>added to the scene. But you guys were both very

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>powerful in that because I was like, wait, what is

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>going to go down? What's happening? Because it was like

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.959
<v Speaker 1>tug of war again, And whenever you have this tug

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of war with Blair, if someone can hang with her,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, now you got me, Now you got

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>my attention, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, I

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>think Rachel did not know what she was getting I

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>know Rachel did not know what she was getting into

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>with Blair. You know, Rachel like she's about there's like

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a war that's about to go down. Yeah, exactly. She's like, yeah,

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>she does not know what she's stepping into. What about

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>stepping into this opera situation? Which have you ever been?

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You know? I have not, I have been. I was

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 1>a ballet dancer for many years and I have been

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to the Met Opera a bunch to see ballet. But

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking back, and I've never seen a live opera.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of videos of opera, but I've

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>never actually been live. And it's weird because I was like,

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Met a bunch. I was like,

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>but no, I never actually saw opera live. Okay, And

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I also want to pause for a second, and I

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>meant to talk about this earlier. I used to think

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>growing up and I was a dancer at all. If

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>someone said what you want to be when you get older,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I'd always say a ballerina because I just think it's

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the dopest, coolest, elegant, chic ist thing. So that's amazing

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that you did that. But can you tell us a

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>little bit about that is? I mean, that is like

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful and I feel like, very difficult and painful,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but so graceful. I don't know. I find saying the

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>ballet fascinating. I love the ballet. I still did when

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>if you if I'm like in a rabbit hole on YouTube,

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually watching ballet performances. Um, you know, I don't

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know how you got into acting and whatnot, but as

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a little girl, like I danced around the house, I

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>sang around the house. I like you, was like, I

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be that right, And my mom put me

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>in ballet class and I really liked it. And then

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw The nut Cracker when I was four, and

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to I want to be

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>in the nut Cracker. She was like okay, uh and uh.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And my parents are very supportive, but they were not

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in the arts themselves, but they let me keep doing

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>classes and whatnot. And I then trained in Philadelphia with

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the Pennsylvania Ballet. It's the rock school in Pennsilvania. I mean,

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>you're just super impressive and so amazing, Like, no, you're not.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.720
<v Speaker 1>It's the truth though, Princeton Ballet, the roles you've done,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you're just also like a sweet, lovely person.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's so true though, and and I

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>just and then I got to do The Nutcracker and

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that was like a dream come true. And I danced

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>in The Nutcracker for many years. And I love ballet.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I loved it when I was dancing. There to me

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>when yes, it's hard, there's discipline in it, but there's

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a freedom in it too. It's kind of like acting, right,

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you drill your scenes, you work on it. You

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it feels difficult when you're trying to crack through

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>something in a scene, and then once you're on set

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing it or you're on stage, it's just

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>flowing right and you just feel it's like a freedom.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you feel that way. I feel

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like a freedom in a seen. Um, once you've put

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>in the work, and that's like the best feeling. That's

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the best feeling. And dances the same way, like, yes,

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you're at the bar, you're in rehearsal, but once you're

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 1>out there, you're just letting go. Um. When I was about,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, I was like sixteen, I started

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>acting doing musical theater stuff, and you kind of have

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to decide at that age if you're going to join

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a company and just do ballet or not. And um,

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew I wanted to act and do other things.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>So I stepped back a little bit from dance at

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that point and still danced and still kind of take

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>ballet bars and classes and stuff. But that's incredible, but

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>acting became my my focus at that age. So that's

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that's so beautiful and awesome. It's it's great and my

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>friends who are still in it are super you know,

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 1>just disciplined. You said that. It's Yeah, there's like this

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like picture of the inside of the foot of a

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>ballerina and it's bloody and cut. It looks like gnarly,

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and then there's like the beautiful picture with like the

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.959
<v Speaker 1>ballet's lebron and it says something like you don't know

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>what all goes into it, you know what I mean.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like when a song comes out, people think like, oh,

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>they just recorded it and not you know, there's well

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that, like as if I'm like a singer.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I know exactly how it is to

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>be a ballerine and a singer, but you just don't know.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>And I always liked that little the picture in the

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>quote because it's true, like you only see the finished product.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't know like the blood, sweat and tears that

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>go into things. Yeah. But anyways, if they're all going

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to the opera, I have never been. You have not been.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was like a Really That's what

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was always really cool about Gossip Girl because they we

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>had scenes like this in places like that that we

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>got to spend all day in and dress up and

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>be all fancy and that was great. But let me

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>ask you this, do you think it was too soon

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for Lily to be bringing rufus out, not even in public,

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's not to say like if you keep it

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors, that's okay. I mean like it's I

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's just really soon to be moving up,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Like there's just a lot going on. But then again,

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>these feelings for rufus have always kind of been on

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the surface, floating around, you know. But do you feel

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like that was like a lot because I kind of do. Yeah.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's hard to tell people how to grieve

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 1>and what the right step is and and what had

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and if that's what she needs to do now kind

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of like to gone. But and I think in some

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>ways she wanted to say, I stand by this, I

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>stand by us. I'm willing to show you off and

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>not hide you and hide my feelings. But it was

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and it felt very I don't know, it's

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>not just soon, it's just it's a big step and

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>she has her kids, you know, there's there's just a

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of um, I don't know, if it's a choice

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I would make maybe, right. Yeah, And again there's it's

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 1>like right, it's like we were saying earlier, there's just

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>so much going on and the emotions that everyone dealing with,

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>like and not on top of it, they just she

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>just found out that rufus found out that there's a baby,

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.919
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. There's like she just lost

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>her husband, but yet she maybe seeing her child that

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>she gave up for adoption over twenty years ago. Like

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>those are two from one end to the other, Like,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be. That's so wild. Yeah. I used that word

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot on this on this podcast, wild because I

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>just it's it is because it is wild. Yeah, No,

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. It's like she lost it and like

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>there's so many things going on and that's why. And

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>then she's adopting Chuck. Yes, she's adopting Chuck just you

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>know at the opera, like all right, I was going

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to adopt you, let me go do that, and it's

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and take over this billion dollar company exactly. And so

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there's so much going on that I think she almost

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>wants the There is something nice in her saying in

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>all of this, I support us as a couple and

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that. But it's just there's

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>so much noise around it. It's almost like maybe waiting

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit would have been yeah, yeah, take it,

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>just like just you think it's a lot, and like

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you think it's a lot. Yeah, I mean even a

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of episodes when she got a call from Bart

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and hadn't listened to the voicemail yet and after found out,

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, that he had gotten into the accident, and

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Rufus is like, I'll be there with you to listen

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to the message. And I'm like, wait, that's like such

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 1>a nice thing, but it's also so loaded because I

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't even know even if it's like the nicest, sweetest message,

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that's still like would be so hard to hear from

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>someone that you're not going to see again, you know

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So there's just they do a lot

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in this show where it's like oh, okay, I get it.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't get it, but like okay, yeah.

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think there are a couple that feels like

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>they've been through so much together, right like I mean,

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>they're there are a new couple, but you know they've

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>lived life together parallel in in each other's lives for

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>so long that, Yeah, I feel like they're just feel

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>very connected, they feel very connected that they're willing, they're

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>able to do things that I think other maybe new

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>couples couldn't do together. Right, Yes, it's very true. And

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>then their kids are like maybe dating at the same

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>time at the same time, you know, as as it's

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>just simple, simple little thing, you know, really easy. Um.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And then okay, so they're they're the opera. Then Vanessa

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and Nate are there on a date and it's so

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.439
<v Speaker 1>cute because Vanessa goes and gets tickets on her own

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa for you, I know. And then so cute, Nate's

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to like squash or like pushed to the side

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that he had a box from because he wants her

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to feel like good about it, which was very sweet

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and cute. Yeah, and I loved, Yeah, I love that.

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>It was so funny because I was watching back and

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 1>I had completely forgot about the woman that sits next

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to us, and she's just coughing and coffing and coffee

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and I remember thinking, like, that's hard to do because

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like completely quiet. It's not like when you're watching

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>there's like sounds they put in right the background noise, Yeah,

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, they add a little bit of music there.

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>They add that, you know, people talk sucking. When you're

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>actually filming a scene, it is like so quiet that

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you could hear a pin drop. So her having a

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>cough like that, and then it drives your throat out.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she did a really good job. And like,

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if it took a ton, but I

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>just when I was watching it because it was kind

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of like a funny situation. But I felt bad because

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that that like doing that in a scene

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is like not easy. It's hard. Yeah, it wears on

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>your because you also need to make it sound super real.

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>When you don't when you're not coughing, it's you know,

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to make it sound real. And she like

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 1>she built it right where it's like a little bit.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Then it started and I thought she did a great

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>job coughing, And I was thinking that, you know, when

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>we did it, it was like funny just that she's coughing,

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.879
<v Speaker 1>and it would be annoying. And now in this like

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 1>COVID world, oh my god, it has like a whole

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>new meaning. I'd be like, I feel like everyone would

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>be like running from that area, ye having like a

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 1>hand sanitizer math in between, But it was it was

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.959
<v Speaker 1>very funny moment, and you two were hilarious in that

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>with your response in the laughing. It just it was

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>she just kind of brought it. It actually ended up

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>being like funny, like actually without having to really do

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a ton with it, but that whole thing was just

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like so funny to me, Like she does this, then

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>there's these seats there and then of course you're invited

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to go from Blair who basically does this whole prank

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>or yeah, where she's like she sends me to a

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>restaurant that's closed. And you know, when I was rewatching it,

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I forgot that there's this moment when she calls me

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to invite me, and Rachel says something like she's saying, no,

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I don't think it's a good idea. Don't

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good idea. And then she's like, well,

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I have always wanted to go. And I remember thinking

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the moment when Rachel started to break her morals, right,

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Like she Rachel comes in and she wants to be

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>the moral high ground, right, She's going to teach her

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>students not just academics, but how to be in the

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>world and how to follow the rules. And I think

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:05.399
<v Speaker 1>she really very much played that in such a believable way,

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that was so rad what you did, like even

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you with with the Serena situation and even coming in

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>when you first meet them, and then your first situation

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with Blair, like you feel that in every every time

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>she was very genuine. At least I chose to play

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>her very and I think she was very genuine. But

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>she gets kind of sucked into this world, right, and

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 1>then in the next episode she's like, well, if I'm

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>already fired, I get right. But this moment which everyone

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>does in this world, like you sawhow like you crossed

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Blair Chalk and you're you're, you're, you're in for it,

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I think that moment I forgot that. It's

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of this episode. It really is just

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like a moment that the writer is put in of

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>She starts to crack and she's like, well, I have

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to go to the opera, right, and then

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 1>she takes the next step and takes a train to

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>go see her student in Brooklyn. Right. Like there's these

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like little moments where she starts to crack and I

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, right, right, right, and then then Blair

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:06.240
<v Speaker 1>led her astray and she's not happy about that. Right. Wait,

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and what was the um? I was talking about it

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>with Shelby, who's like our dear family friend here she

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about this episode with her and she's like, wait,

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>she's like, your the student's age. What was the reason? Again,

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm blanking right now that you

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>were close to our age and able to be teaching

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>at the school because you explained They explained that in

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, which was very smart of the writing, because

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you really do look at you and you're like because

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>he even Dan says it. Dan says, yeah, there's Yeah,

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>she's twenty five, so she's already graduated and done a

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of years of teacher America. So she's not she's

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 1>not actually, but she looks the same age and gets mistaken.

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I think when Serena and Dan first see her struggling

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>with the door, Serena is like, Dan says, who's the

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>new student, and Serena is like, no, no, that's my

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare teacher. And then one of them says, does she

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 1>have Benjamin button? Syndrome or something. So she's supposed to

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 1>look like a student, but she's actually a teacher and

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>then is still like a young like if you're eighteen

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and you have a year old teacher at that time

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>when you're a senior, you sin is really old, but

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's really you know, and like though you know,

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I will say Rachel was the teacher and should not

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>have crossed those lines. But yeah, but I mean, you're

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>getting sucked into that world. And that's the other thing

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't now, and I can't wait for the next

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.839
<v Speaker 1>couple episodes because I don't even remember remotely what goes on,

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>but I can only you know with what happens. I mean,

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>it gets clearly there's going to be something with Dan,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but oh yeah it was. I'm not supposed to spoil

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.479
<v Speaker 1>that in this sorry, No, I mean it does because

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you end up in Brooklyn, like you know, you're not

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>going out there to just literally have coffee at the thing,

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. They're like dropping little like

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>easter eggs for us to be like, okay, keep us hooked,

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Okay, so you get

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>when you get this phone call from from Blair, you

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>call the head mistress to basically kind of like give

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>all of this to her, because it's basically you that is,

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, Blair, you want to play now you're

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>not going to get into Yale. Yeah, basically you just

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>like drop you know, you dropped the mic right there? Yeah, yeah,

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I think. Blair runs to call it off because she

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>finds out from the head mistress that I reached out

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to her to say. Blair is concerned about this be

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>what do I do? And the head mistress says, don't worry.

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>If she continues to get a's, she'll still have an

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>A and get into Yale. And so Blair realizes I

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't trying to destroy with that one grade her chances

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 1>of getting into Yale. So she runs to try to

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 1>fix it with Rachel, but Rachel's already like no, no, no, no,

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 1>you just you you went you crossed a line here,

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 1>even though Rachel says, I accept your apology. Yes, So

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 1>then she the head mistress to explain that Blair like, hey,

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>later they referred to it as hazing. Has Dr Pranketer

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>sent her into a park that was empty and no

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>one was there. All the situations happening at the opera.

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a busy net of the opera is okay.

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And then Jack and Lily so after the news about

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Bass Industries, Jack follows Lily into the bathroom. Dan asked

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Chuck at hes seen Lily, and Chuck says she was

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 1>going to the bathroom a while ago at the powder

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>room and he tries to open the door and it's locked.

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Chuck does and then this is the moment we were

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier where all of a sudden, Chuck is

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like coming in and walking in at a moment that's

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like very devastating and horrible and no situation that any

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 1>man or woman wants to be in where you are

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>alone with someone who is trying to harm you. Yes, exactly,

0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that's very scary. No, it's it's to me, it's yes,

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a violation like that is very very fearful, right, yeah,

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and terrifying the fact that this was this is her

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>husband who just passed brother, this is Chuck's uncle, this

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>is her brother in law, and he is just so

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>nasty that yeah, he's like and then Chuck comes in

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and kind of saves the day for her, Yes, yeah,

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and she's just saved him and he comes and saves her,

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and just that Chuck knew what it meant that that

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>door was locked and that Jack had been around and

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Jack was upset, and that that he put every he

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>put everything in there, He connected the dots, he put

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it all together. He connected all the dots pretty quickly.

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And I also think the way that the scene, that

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 1>whole sequence was edited and directed it it really built

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.479
<v Speaker 1>that tension. And just that moment when Chuck is looking

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>around and he puts it together and he's like, I

0:52:55.239 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta get in there was it's a yeah, he put

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it together really fast, and it was very tense watching it.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It was tense and it was super obviously that's our

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>jobs to make it believable, but in in that amount

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of time, like walking from this scene to that scene

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to put everything together was pretty quick. Say, I totally

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>agree with what you're saying, like the tension that was

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>built up to then feel like, oh my god, someone's

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>got to get in there to savor but how is

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>he going to put it together? But that that's like

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the wise, brilliant part of Chuck even though he's you know,

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighteen years old, and it was just very Yeah,

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that was just the way he connected those dots and

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>saved her. Was I had all these emotions going on

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, oh my gosh, now he has to

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.439
<v Speaker 1>go and fight his uncle to help his step mom

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to you know, and he's still his heart is still

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in this painful you know. Yeah, it's the sense he's

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.439
<v Speaker 1>it's situations. We talk a lot, right, He's a he's

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 1>a kid handling these adult things sometimes very often on

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>his own. Right. He just feels on his own handling

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>these moments, right, it's very grown up moments, if you will. Right,

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to have to confront his his uncle in that way,

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I have to confront his uncle who is hurting his

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>step mom in this like locked bathroom at this very

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>public place. Well, yeah, just just all these layers of that,

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and like, man, you've got a lot going on, and you're,

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're holding it together even though he's you know,

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:23.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to numb a lot of things. He's also holding

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.439
<v Speaker 1>it together for how much he has on his plate

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in a way too, you know what I mean, Like,

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 1>give me one of those things, and I'm I don't

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 1>even know, right, you know what I mean? It's yeah,

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's just he's such a great character

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and play him so well in this like he does

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>terrible things, but you have my heart feels for him still, right,

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's just it's and this is one of

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>those I just there was a shot on his face

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>after it all happens, and my heart just broke for

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>him for every you know, and just what Lily just

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>went through all of it, right, it's a it was

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a really it's an intense moment to watch so intense,

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and then that the piece between that that happens with them,

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 1>it's like it spoke volumes of Lily when she says,

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want the jet, I don't want the company.

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I just want you. Because there is always this thing

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of Lily on the Upper east Side and how she

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>she looks, and you know that she did marry bart Bass.

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>There's like a little bit there where you're like, Okay,

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>she likes the money and she likes that even though

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.439
<v Speaker 1>she's still trying to be the best mom she wants

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to be. And there is this love for Rufus, who's

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>this single dad who lives in you know, quote unquote Brooklyn,

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>even though that loft is probably more expensive than some

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of those East Side places. But I thought that was

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a big moment not just to take Chuck in and

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>really be there for him, like, but that it wasn't

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>about any of that, because that's a moment in truth

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>most people, even if you aren't in it for that,

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to give up a billion dollar company.

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Even if you were hands down however, heels in love

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.359
<v Speaker 1>with Bart, you still may be like, well, hey, I'm

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna probably take a little bit of it, you know

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So the fact that she's like, no,

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, like I don't want any of it, I

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>just want yours is like a very gangster of her.

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, yeah, I think that moment made me.

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I had a moment watching it back. I was like, right,

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Lily is in this world, She's of this world. She

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>operates in this world. But she has so much heart

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and as we discussed earlier, warmth, and she cares and

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>she cares about him and she just wants him to

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 1>be okay. And yeah, she's willing. She's not in it

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>for that. As you said, that's exactly right. Also not

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to like because this is like a serious conversation and

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>moment in the show. But like, is Lily just going

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to be everyone's mom. On the Upper East Side, she's like,

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 1>could be you know, Dan and Jenny's, and then she's

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Eric and Sermina, she's taken and chucked. Then there's like

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>another love child somewhere running around like she's she may

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:54.919
<v Speaker 1>just be every mom and that's his mom. Do I mean?

0:56:54.960 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, right, going to create And I

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 1>always to watch doing these rewatches, and it's not really

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a rewatch for me. I don't know if you know this.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm really watching most of them for the first time.

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I really love Chuck and Lily's relationship and storyline all

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 1>the way through all of these they have a really

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting dynamic. There's a love and a respect, but yet

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 1>there's still like that step mom steps some kind of thing,

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and then she calls him Charles, which was a really

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting choice. Yeah, and she kind of talks about that

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>on her episode. But I really like those two. And

0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, growing up, when I'd watch shows and

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it would cut to like the parents scenes, sometimes you

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of for me, I'm not not you, I would,

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, can't wait for it to get back to

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the kids in high school. I couldn't wait for you know,

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to get to this storyline that doesn't happen on this

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>show for me, Like when I'm when I'm Lily draws

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you in so much Rufus does, Bart does, Like all

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the storylines are so so much going on and so

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>powerful and so daw dropping that it's just, yeah, I

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>just never watching it back this time, I'm like, or

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 1>watching it, I'm like, wow, I never knew how much

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I liked their storylines. I remember reading them and thinking, yeah,

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that's cute. How they are. You know, here's another dynamic.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think they both play it so well and

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy it. Yeah, they play really well. And

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they're also just so woven into this show, right, the

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>complexities of the show when the storylines and it all

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of comes together. They were not like these separate things,

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if you know which I think I hear what you're saying.

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>There's certain shows where it's like and now it's the

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>parents scene and you're like, just get back to the

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>next scene. Yeah, not always like on Shameless. I didn't

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>find that either. Shameless. I think they did a great

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 1>job with it, you know what I mean, Like when

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they went to Chanola and they went to Frank like

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you were dialed in. So some shows do a great

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 1>deals on those stories together really well. Yeah, and some

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>shows I could literally care less, like get back to

0:58:49.720 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the drunk. Yeah, And then it cuts to you at

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 1>this point, go at Miss Carr in Brooklyn with Dan,

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 1>which you know you mentioned this a little bit ago,

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 1>where you're like that probably was inappropriate for her to

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>take Dan up on coming, you know, like heading to

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn and going to the you know, gallery coffee shop.

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But did you know at this point when you read

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the script and you said you didn't know it was

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a guest star, but then obviously it was reoccurring because

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you do more um, which also speaks again of how

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 1>much they like you and how good you did with

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this role or how well you were as Miss Carr.

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>But did you know where your story was going? Because

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes on shows you get the scripts a couple of them.

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you only get it week to week, Like did

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you know when it cut here you're going to Brooklyn?

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>What was up in the next episode? Or no? Yeah, Well,

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>so I can't remember if I had this script yet

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>or not. At my fitting, Um, I do have a

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 1>little story which is my my now husband. I just

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<v Speaker 1>met him when I booked this job, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>to him, I booked a teacher on this show, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'd never seen the show. He's like, what student are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna hook up with? It was like, oh my,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like Serena's mentor and she I think she gets

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<v Speaker 1>into it with this other character, Blair. And he's still

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<v Speaker 1>like I was right. He was like, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>they're bringing a teacher on, there's gonna be I was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, And then I was at my fitting and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the I definitely didn't have the next script.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always like because you could find some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out in the fittings, like if the script wasn't ready yet,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be like, yeah, we know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, we don't have the scenes. I always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of liked that because you could kind of get a

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<v Speaker 1>little scoop yes exactly. And so somebody was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is perfect for when she kisses him. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>when I come again, I was like, um, And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think I maybe didn't have the script. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had my audition sides and this wasn't in it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when I saw this, I knew where it was

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<v Speaker 1>headed and you know, when you're playing a character and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't make choices you would make, you still have

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<v Speaker 1>to justify those choices. And I think I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>was a long time ago, but Rachel's lonely. She's by

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<v Speaker 1>herself in New York for the first time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind she was like, he's nice, it's a gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see Brooklyn. Like she's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see him. In her mind, she's going to the gallery

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn and he's there, right, But she does feel

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of connection to him. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>not acknowledging to herself with that connection as yet, if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, she's justifying it, but she's already beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to justify behavior that is probably a little It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like you can go visit your student at a gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just she then, you know, yeah, exactly. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind is like, I'm just like going to

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<v Speaker 1>the gallery, like you're going to meet your student at

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<v Speaker 1>the gallery. Meanwhile, Blair is getting into attention, which you

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<v Speaker 1>would give your students, you know, like you'd be giving

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher to attention for the choices she's making. So

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll flip it on you. You out there and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just give to Blair and it's fine. And what

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<v Speaker 1>does she say? She comes out. Blair walks out, and

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<v Speaker 1>Deronda is there with the bulldog and she says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is it war And she says, yes, but this one

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<v Speaker 1>will be different. I need to wait for my moment

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm going going black black. I'm like Blair.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like walking down the hall very slow, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can see her like thinking of like her brain

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<v Speaker 1>is just going Deronda with the dog Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too it's too funny and too cute and too good

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<v Speaker 1>because she did you know, she's kind of already done

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<v Speaker 1>one thing right and now she's like she's in it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to go all the way and it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a good moment. It pulls back and she's like you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, she's just walking down there, and I'm also like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? Like you can't do much more.

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<v Speaker 1>You piste off the person that's going to what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help you? Now, the teacher that could have this other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the head mistress could have helped. You've just

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<v Speaker 1>you're burning the bridges all along. But then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, she'll like go get chuck and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>both burn every bridge and somehow she'll be at Yale

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<v Speaker 1>and like running everything at Yale. Yeah, but she's burned

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It's it is. It's just like she just

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<v Speaker 1>had to be she just had to like make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the next papers were all a's and then she went outside.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead right making it hard, she's like mad about

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<v Speaker 1>that one thing. She makes it harder. Yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>also the fun exactly. Oh my gosh. So here's the

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<v Speaker 1>closing Gossip Girl quote. The thing about new beginnings is

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<v Speaker 1>that they require something else to end. Some endings take

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to reveal themselves, but when they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they're almost too easy to ignore. Some beginnings start so

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<v Speaker 1>quietly you don't even notice they're happening, But most endings

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<v Speaker 1>come when you least expect them, and what they pretend

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<v Speaker 1>is darker than you've ever imagined. Not all beginnings are

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<v Speaker 1>cause for celebration. A lot of bad things begin fights,

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<v Speaker 1>flu season, and worst thing of all one to be

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<v Speaker 1>starting something. XO XO gossip Girl. That was a mouthful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good one, though, it is a good one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was so fun, Thank you so much. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to talk about any anything you want

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<v Speaker 1>us to look up look out for projects, charities, anything like.

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<v Speaker 1>We always like hearing new stuff and we've all been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what everyone's been up to since it's been

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<v Speaker 1>so long. Yeah, there's you know, some our marriage and kids,

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<v Speaker 1>some of his work, and some people like get projects.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk about and either way, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>really want to thank you so much for being here

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<v Speaker 1>and being a part of this, because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really you just had really good insight on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes in front of the camera, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like your whole story and your journey and all the

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<v Speaker 1>things is just really beautiful and wonderful. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>I really I loved doing this and um going back

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<v Speaker 1>and watching it and just you know, Memory Lane, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun. And thank you for having me. It was great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have any thing to pitch right now

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, tell you to look out for. I

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<v Speaker 1>have two kids now, and I'm married to kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm acting. I kind of took a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a I didn't take a break, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>a little step back when my daughter, my second was born,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, um, I have been auditioning. It's all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all home tape now. It's very isolating in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, it's like nice and not nice. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I love that you have like a family and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, because to me, that's like the most important

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<v Speaker 1>thing in life. Like so it's good to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and still do what you love. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I love I love acting. I love it so

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<v Speaker 1>much and I want to be doing it for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life. And it was nice. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a I would say in some ways it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good acting can be a good mom job and that

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not working, I can be with them a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch and then when you are, you know you're working.

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<v Speaker 1>You're balancing it. But it's been really great to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of time with them, Pandemic especially made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time together, uh, and just see them grow

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<v Speaker 1>because they were so young. They're now getting a bit

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<v Speaker 1>older and going to school, and I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really ready to get like fully fully back. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when when I was especially when I was young, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I speak, I could say other people are

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<v Speaker 1>like this. There's so much like go go go, go go,

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<v Speaker 1>go like go, and not that I'm not still go go, go,

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<v Speaker 1>go go, but there's just more allowing more space for things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling like there's a ticking clock every moment and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll it's you know, the journey is kind of nice

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes to just be on it. So I'm I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>for what's coming up. I don't know what it is though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the best part about it. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>also so cool too about what we do, like with you,

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<v Speaker 1>with how talented you are, in fun to work with

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone has wonderful things to say about you, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing will come soon and I'll laugh about

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<v Speaker 1>this and in the next three or six months or

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<v Speaker 1>something that you'll be like I'll be binge watching you

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<v Speaker 1>on something for sure, and then I'm gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to come back on and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it and promoted. Let's put that out there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's um you know. And also the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about auditions on tape is there is a fun aspect

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<v Speaker 1>to it, right you get to kind of dive into

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<v Speaker 1>it really deeply, though I then have to let it

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<v Speaker 1>go at some point. Yeah, that's my problem though. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like over picking. So then instead of just going

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<v Speaker 1>in and leaving in the room and doing it that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or having them give notes because I do

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<v Speaker 1>like getting notes when you're in the room because I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Then then you're kind of shaping it the

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<v Speaker 1>way they want it, but giving your flavor to it too.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're I like a self tape because you

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<v Speaker 1>do have a lot of time to spend on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I don't because I spend too much time

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And I like the collaboration of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I feel. And then I like the

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, notes, You then feel our job is collaborative,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes when you're self taping it does not feel

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<v Speaker 1>it feels not that. What I love is when it

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<v Speaker 1>is collaborative and you're getting notes and yeah, shaping it

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<v Speaker 1>well you know what's interesting? You know when not interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when Blair says in this episode, being

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<v Speaker 1>good as subjective, you can look it up. I always

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<v Speaker 1>say that about art, art subjective. So what I take

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<v Speaker 1>on if you and I both read a script and

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<v Speaker 1>are you know we're going out for you know, two

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<v Speaker 1>roles in the script. The way I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>character may talk or do things may be very different

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<v Speaker 1>from you, which may be very different from the writing,

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<v Speaker 1>writers and producers. So to be in a room to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bring that together or get notes because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I would have never realized you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>her to kind of have that dynamic or that color

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<v Speaker 1>in this scene. So that's why self tape is hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I guess if you like. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we can do that because of the situation the

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<v Speaker 1>world was in, I'm glad we did have Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>did as technology made a lot of things possible. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you said, you know, I always you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like we we could have different takes. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>always like, I always think when people felt competitive with

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<v Speaker 1>other actors that they maybe see at auditions were not

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why, like they're going to be It

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<v Speaker 1>never made sense to me because I was like, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring something to it that's different than you,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's that's the it was. I like to go

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<v Speaker 1>and see what, you know, if I've auditioned for something,

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<v Speaker 1>especially something I really like what happens. But what they

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<v Speaker 1>did with yeah, because I'm like, oh, okay, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>like that, right, And it's it's great to see a

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<v Speaker 1>different take on something. So it is we we all

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<v Speaker 1>have our own thing to bring to the table, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of our job. It totally is, and

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<v Speaker 1>we learn from it from each role that we do

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. So yeah, we're very blessed to

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<v Speaker 1>be be able to do this for a living. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like super pumped you came on. You were incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know we're going to get off this and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's going to be like, we love her. You're so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I mean, it's one I've been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. It's it's very addictive. I really love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a great job. Oh my god, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me so happy. That's so sweet. This was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I had such a great time. Thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me on. Yes, I loved it. Wow, that was just

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun with you, Laura. You are a breath

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<v Speaker 1>of fresh air and I'm so happy we got to connect.

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<v Speaker 1>There are even crazier episodes coming up next, so for

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