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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas. I am joined in a

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? What is a Thor's?

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Speaker 1: Is tam Post's doc not the Is it the little

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Speaker 1: Written by Greg Roseatal and Chris Westling. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: Mark with your pepis looks swell spelt swoll is another

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Speaker 1: way to Thursday at one thirty Pacific time. That's correct.

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Speaker 1: the hurries, the hits along with the sacks, like he

429
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Speaker 1: still gives no place in the dolphin it's organic fish tank.

430
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Speaker 1: So it makes sense that he's going to move off

431
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Speaker 1: one of the I'm surprised it hasn't been on your

432
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: radar more just because like one of the great bodies

433
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Speaker 1: of the century in the NFL. Why why do you

434
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: say that? But you're the body guy. You know you,

435
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm more, it's a more on my radar

436
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: because of you. Over the years, you've influenced me, like

437
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: all mentor, and now I noticed this more. Cameron Wake

438
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: is a guy who I think he stands out. Did

439
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Speaker 1: you just called dang your mentor? I'm saying in this department, Yes,

440
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Speaker 1: he's kind of shot. He showed me the way to

441
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this that it's a factor. Hot

442
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Speaker 1: mail bods. Obviously, I've always looked at you as an

443
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Speaker 1: apprentice in this GREG, I'll throw out Henry Anderson, by

444
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Speaker 1: the way, who would be very upset if the Jets

445
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: let go because his stats don't jump at Trey Flowers

446
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: is a way better defensive lineman. But it's a similar

447
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: type argument. He might not blow you away with stats,

448
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: but that guy was in the middle of a lot

449
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Speaker 1: of positive net plays for the defense last year in

450
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Speaker 1: New York. And another guy not a big name brand,

451
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Speaker 1: maybe only one year where he's really done anything, but

452
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: he could make your defensive line better and probably don't

453
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Speaker 1: have to shell out huge bucks for him. I like that.

454
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Speaker 1: I would throw out some slot corners like Bryce Callahan

455
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Speaker 1: or Dark West and Hard. But I actually do think

456
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid. I don't think they'll necessarily be

457
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Speaker 1: because I feel like, like Bryce Kellen's good, Like I

458
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Speaker 1: get that why he's a sneaky under the radar guy.

459
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Speaker 1: But after weeks and talking about Bryce Callahan or Preston Smith,

460
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: these guys are not secrets anymore. They're gonna make money.

461
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Speaker 1: Adrian Amos is another guy PFF just loves, has had

462
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Speaker 1: him in the top two two years ago and then

463
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Speaker 1: had him seventh last year. But I do think he'll

464
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Speaker 1: get paid. So I look more at like positions that

465
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Speaker 1: don't get paid, like Jordan Hicks, and no one's like,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, no, no fans gonna be out there and

467
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Speaker 1: being like super excited your team signs Jordan Hicks. But

468
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Speaker 1: if you sign him, it's probably not gonna cost that much.

469
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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna play three downs for you and like

470
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Speaker 1: you're gonna end up liking him a lot. kJ Wright

471
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Speaker 1: is another guy who's getting closer to the end of

472
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Speaker 1: his career and is a name brand, and we have

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Speaker 1: him in a top fifteen, But I don't think he's

474
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Speaker 1: gonna cost that much for what he's gonna give you

475
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Speaker 1: in terms of intelligence and being on the field and

476
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Speaker 1: just being like a solid guy you put in there

477
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Speaker 1: and he's not gonna embarrass you like a lot of

478
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Speaker 1: free agents do. How about Glover Quinn who two thousand

479
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: seventeen season, I had him on my All Pro team,

480
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Speaker 1: and then Matt Patricia came in and all of a sudden,

481
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Speaker 1: he was like no longer one of the teacher's pets,

482
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Speaker 1: and they drafted a guy they wanted to see more often.

483
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Speaker 1: So Glover Glover Quinn started to see a decrease in

484
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Speaker 1: playing time and maybe he's reached the end of the line.

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Speaker 1: But to me, if you played at an all pro

486
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Speaker 1: level in two thousand and seventeen, he probably still have

487
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Speaker 1: a little bit of life left in your leg. He

488
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Speaker 1: seems like a little scorned though, or a little he's

489
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Speaker 1: hurt by what happened that he's saying he will retire

490
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Speaker 1: if teams don't. That's not exactly treat him well like

491
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Speaker 1: he wants to be respected. So don't get two NFL

492
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Speaker 1: teams an ultimatum to pay you the money you deserve

493
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: because somebody is going to be there to take your job.

494
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Speaker 1: I think that was purely about the Lions coaching staff,

495
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Speaker 1: not the other NFL team underrated named Glover. Fine, it's good.

496
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Speaker 1: It's fine, kind of like or in the Cuteness Power rankings,

497
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Speaker 1: it's wow. I thought you'd be a little more into Glover.

498
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Speaker 1: It's not overly cute siness. Like Grover better than Glover. Grover? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like Grover. It's a little when it was ever

500
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Speaker 1: here outside of like a Sesame Street figure. But Grover Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: There you go an example. Well, okay, so ancient politicians. Um.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know where this falls on

503
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Speaker 1: your list every year. I assume there's a couple of

504
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Speaker 1: guys that fall through the cracks that the scientists, even

505
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Speaker 1: in all your wisdom, you miss. But also maybe it's

506
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Speaker 1: a technicality because there is a Birmingham Iron superstar named

507
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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson who has forty seven touchdowns on two and

508
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Speaker 1: a half yards to carry over in the a F

509
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Speaker 1: he's not in the top one on one. Is it

510
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Speaker 1: because he's currently attached to a team right now? No,

511
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Speaker 1: it's because he can't run. What was your elevator alt?

512
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Speaker 1: I got? I quite enjoyed it. Yeah, I can't get

513
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Speaker 1: hell the elevator before the doors closed. I mean, this

514
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Speaker 1: story is still being told. I mean he is having

515
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Speaker 1: one of the seasons for the ages in the A.

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he I feel like C. J. Anderson

517
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Speaker 1: is kind of on his corner, like he's the he's

518
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Speaker 1: who Trent Richardson wants to be. Like we rank C. J.

519
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: Anderson about seventy five every year and we're not really

520
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: sure what to do with him. And then the NFL

521
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: doesn't care about him, and he comes in and he's awesome,

522
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Speaker 1: Like he's the overweight guy that's actually really talented that

523
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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson wishes he was. I think it's interesting that

524
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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson basically averages the same exact yards per carry

525
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Speaker 1: in this lower league that he averaged in the NFL.

526
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Speaker 1: He's consistent, I did notice, and Brown was wrong because

527
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Speaker 1: he didn't think he'd be consistent. I mean, not to

528
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Speaker 1: get too far off the map. But Zach Mettenberger benched tough,

529
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Speaker 1: another tough performing Christian Christian had sword. That's what I meant.

530
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're a rotal World podcast. Those guys

531
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Speaker 1: are up all night chewing up takes. I think they

532
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Speaker 1: did they really realize in suddenly they're gonna be doing

533
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Speaker 1: six seven hundred words a week on Richardson, Zach Mettenberger

534
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Speaker 1: in all the rest of these. Well, I'm just saying

535
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Speaker 1: I saw Mettenberger came in nine up. Looks like maybe

536
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Speaker 1: I'll end up being right about him in the long run.

537
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Speaker 1: I can't even wake up on time. All right, So

538
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Speaker 1: we mentioned some bargain bids. How about a little buyer beware? Uh?

539
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: Now I would I'm trying to figure out wrap my

540
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: head around this for this the purpose of this exercise.

541
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Speaker 1: If it's a buyer be ware, the scientists are going

542
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Speaker 1: to probably have them lower on the list, right or

543
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Speaker 1: is that not how it works? Are there there's a

544
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: talent level outweigh, you know the possibility of a bad deal.

545
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Take me through and take me through the It's a

546
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Speaker 1: good question. So Trent Brown is someone I would want

547
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: to stay away from first on my list? And where

548
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: is he on your time? But he still made it

549
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: to thirty one, which I think first on my buyer

550
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Speaker 1: beware list. Okay, so West HadAM even a little higher

551
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Speaker 1: than I did. I think I had Am about forty.

552
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Speaker 1: West HadAM. You also had Donovan Smith higher than Trent Brown,

553
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: which I was surprised at either way. It's like, this

554
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: is a guy who's had major weight problems, whose system

555
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: made him look better than he really was, but he

556
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: can probably be an okay tackle, so you still like

557
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: put him in the top fifty Dan. They're just gotta

558
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: pay him, like, you know, way too good money. Doesn't

559
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith Smith fit into that too, where there's this

560
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: position scarcity, so it's like we got to sign someone

561
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: to play tackle. I would put Jowan James in there too.

562
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Three guys who aren't very good. The Dolphins have been

563
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Juwan James. And when you're

564
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: when you're the Dolphins offensive line and trying to get

565
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: rid of you, you're not very good. He's someone, though,

566
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: I think, of all these guys, will maybe get paid

567
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: the most. Uh. I've asked her out in a little

568
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: bit on on this one, and people think he could

569
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: be a top ten PFF certainly sees him as a

570
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: as a good tackle, as an above average starter, and

571
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: there are people around that I've heard I kind of

572
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: think he's He's the guy that might be the bell

573
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: of the ball of all these guys, I would um,

574
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I'll have a sandwich that Donovan Smith gets more than

575
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: London Tag, so it's not even on a matter I

576
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: don't think. But back to what you're saying, we're talking

577
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: about Bell West. Would you rather spend a little extra

578
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: money on Bell even though you could find running backs?

579
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Speaker 1: I get it, like in the middle rounds of a draft.

580
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Or do you want to throw funny money at these

581
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: guys that just seem like a total roll of the

582
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: dice in this market? No, I don't like this tackle market.

583
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: There are some centers available, Mitch Morrison and Matt Paradise

584
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: who I think would be good signings, but these guys,

585
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: I think it's bara beware on all three of those tackles.

586
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: And and what drives me crazy about the NFL sometimes

587
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: is Trent Brown. The Patriots, Evan Silver says, is all

588
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: the time, they're so far ahead of the rest of

589
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: the league. They take a guy who was a right

590
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: tackle because they need a creative solution at left tackle.

591
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: They put Trent Ground on the tent round on the

592
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: left side, and now everybody's gonna want to pick him

593
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: up as a left tackle just because the Patriots played

594
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: him there and basically gave up nothing for him. I mean,

595
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing with these these less Let's be honest,

596
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Speaker 1: you know, be carefully. This is your bread and butter

597
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: bro I mean, what do we know, Matt, Matt, It's

598
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: tough to rank more, That's all I'm saying. It's tough,

599
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Like we can base. It's tough. We're just doing the

600
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: best week behind the curtain. What are the odds that

601
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: Mitch morrise Uh, he missed fourteen games to injuries the

602
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: last two years and he's gonna get paid like a star.

603
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: Like we think he's solid, but I don't know. I mean,

604
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that if I were you, unless it

605
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: was like three in the morning and like a quiet

606
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: bear Den and you we think you don't admit that

607
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: to anyone. You think it's solid. But I'm not breaking

608
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: but dorse tape. I'm trying to sell you guys. And

609
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: I got the guy saying, we don't know what we're

610
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: talking about, right, We're not breaking your horse tape. But

611
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: we have data. We know that the Chief's offense has

612
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: a good running game and passing game with him calling

613
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: the shots on the offensive line. Ka fab ever heard

614
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: of that? Kabe and wrestling, don't don't be afraid to

615
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: lean into that a little bit, so you are all

616
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: knowing people will believe you. How do you think half

617
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: the people in this industry or millionaires right now? All right,

618
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: you want to get get into it, guys, you wanna

619
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: here's a buyer. Beware that you might not expect about

620
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: landing Collins. Are we already that sure that landing Collins

621
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: is a great, great play or if now there's talkies

622
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: possibly gonna get tagged Although there's a little conflicting talk

623
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: about that out there out there that the big talking

624
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Shawn O. Harris said on her Twitter that they didn't

625
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: put him in a good position last year because he

626
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: was in coverage too much. How much do you want

627
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: to pay a safety that isn't really that good in

628
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: coverage in the year two thousand and nineteen, who hasn't

629
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: really graded out that well over the last two years.

630
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: He's got a big name, and I think he would

631
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: improve your team, but you're gonna have to probably pay

632
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: him as the number one safety in the NFL. He's

633
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: number ten on this list. West I put him high,

634
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: to we both put him high. I don't know. My

635
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: answer to Greg would be yes, I'm confident he's a

636
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: very I don't know about great, but I don't think

637
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: that he's a free agent. Are you really gonna get

638
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: a great player in free agency? But he's very good

639
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: and he was a legitimate Defensive Player of the Year

640
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: candidate in two thousand and sixteen. To me, that puts

641
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: you on another level. And the way these contracts work out,

642
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: it's like he might be your safety for the next

643
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: two seasons. Yes, I agree with it. That's one way

644
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: the NFL has got smarters. I mean these are all

645
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: like two year contracts. Three if you're a super if

646
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you're a Levian value, you can maybe work out that

647
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: it's three. Maybe landing Collins will be three, and the

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: rest there one or two. I would answer your Landing

649
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: Colins with Teddy Bridgewater. That is a huge buyer beware,

650
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: But is he going to get a huge contract though,

651
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna get a two year deal

652
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: from someone. I guess it depends on how desperate a

653
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: team like maybe the Redskins Redskins, I don't know who

654
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: else is. Why do you say that was buy or beware? Well,

655
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Week seventeen game tape for one number two, he was

656
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: knocked for his slight bill coming into the league and

657
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: we just have no way of knowing if this guy

658
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: can survive a sixteen game season full of hits. I

659
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: put him a lot higher than West it I had

660
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: him twenty three. I think West HadAM about forty something

661
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: because I feel like a quarterback, they're all getting premiums.

662
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Foles is what our number seven guy.

663
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: If if if there's like a one in three chance

664
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: that you found a a even Andy Dalton level quarterback

665
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: in Teddy Bridgewater, then you gotta rank them high, like

666
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: even the ChIL Like, I don't want to he's Tyrod

667
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Taylor high because I know what he is and it's

668
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: not what I want at quarterback. I think, yeah, we

669
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: disagreed on Tyrod a lot too. I think backup quarterback

670
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: is like a really valuable position. In Tyrod Taylor is

671
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: a great backup quarter and so that's to me much

672
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: more valuable than a lot of the guys that are

673
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: on this list. Towards the end, I would like, that's

674
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: just what quarterback and that's why I put Bridgewater so

675
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: high to that, like, if there's a one in two

676
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: chance that he could come in and spark and and

677
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: help you out, then like that's where a chance we're taking,

678
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think you'd have to pay that much.

679
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I'll throw out another buyer, beware number thirty six on

680
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: this list, and I know he had the big hit

681
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: that essentially put the Rams in the Super Bowl. But

682
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler people, uh, every team, Well, you can never

683
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: have enough guys on on the edge that can go

684
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: get the quarterback and be an impact player. And that's

685
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: what Fowler came in the league, or the Jaguars thought

686
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: he was that. I think he was number three overall

687
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: pick and he's flashed, of course, but he only had

688
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: four sex last year. He's I think entering now what

689
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: his age twenty eight season, is this the guy? Is

690
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: this who he is? That he's a guy that in

691
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: fits and spurts, is an impact guy that can cause

692
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: a ruckus, but he's never gonna be truly a dominant presence.

693
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I think he'll get overpaid because people want to look

694
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: at the impact plays he does make occasionally and think

695
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: they can get more. Some of his ruckis has been

696
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: caused inside his own locker room over the years too,

697
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: so it's it's the overall package reliable. I think those

698
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: are fair points. I loved what he put on tape

699
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: at the end of last year, the final month and

700
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: a half of the season. I thought he was outstanding.

701
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: And I think that some of his lack of production

702
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: is because he didn't get a lot of snaps behind Yannicknqua.

703
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: But he I agree, damn that he's someone to worry

704
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: about because he's sort of checks every box of like

705
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: a total free agent bust. I mean, he was maybe

706
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: the rams best defensive player in the playoffs, him and

707
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, but he was as he was almost as impactful.

708
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: But here's a top draft pick. Those guys always get overpaid. Uh.

709
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: He's had a ton of off field problems, work ethic issues,

710
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: teammates don't seem to like him, has gotten traded, and

711
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: then just had this little spurt right before he gets

712
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: to the contract, you know, time that gets everyone excited

713
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: and gets you a huge Let's be fair about the

714
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: teammate thing though, Like when he was going to the

715
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: playoff running with the Rams, a lot of Jaguars were

716
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: pulling for him and said so on social media. Yeah,

717
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: and we also have we have no idea about ninety

718
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: four to eight percent of what's going right. The teammate

719
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: fight thing though. That wasn't the first time though that

720
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: Fowler got in the news of being anybody remember the

721
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: TMZ footage of his the two girlfriends going at each

722
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: other and him being a referee. That that was a

723
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a lot of revial magnifico for me.

724
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I got to be honest with I mean, or he's desirable.

725
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's well, certainly, I mean I've never had

726
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: women do that for me. But you know, I'm not

727
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not gonna champion for it. No, that's

728
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: like you Mark. No, I'm just saying that maybe there's

729
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: an aspect to that to suggest that there's something about

730
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: him that he are interest interested in. I don't know

731
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: it's fair. We have some breaking news from my email box.

732
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: You guys may not care, but I care. MYRTA Antonio

733
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: breaks the news that my FedEx wardrobe box, which has

734
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: been lost for three weeks in America, has been located.

735
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: They have a new tracking number and it's coming home

736
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. I'm excited. This is a shocking turn

737
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: of events. This one matters to me because I was

738
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: plugged in on the lost money. They thought that my

739
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: box was lost initially, and I lost an entire bag

740
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: of luggage from the Superowl last year. It is a

741
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: huge offseason. Painting the butt no longer for you. I'm

742
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: happy for you. I just I just follow it up

743
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: to see, Okay, now that it's been three weeks, what

744
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: is the process to get compensated? Because they're not finding

745
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: this box? And she breaks the news that they've they've

746
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: turned it up, we'll see what's in. Let me let

747
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: me just first of all, I'm very happy for you

748
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: because that sucked that it disappeared for this long. I

749
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: will temper it by just saying, we don't know. We

750
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: have no idea. Like Dante Fowler, there's some red flags here.

751
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: We have no idea where that box has been in

752
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: these three what's been happening for those two been wearing

753
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: these clothes? What have they been sopping up liquids and

754
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: other things with with your your with your trousers? Who knows?

755
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Who has been out on the town in Memphis wearing

756
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: some you know, pretty stylish black hoodies A rather small man. Yeah,

757
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: we know that it's got to be the box went

758
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: to Memphis, Husky Child, It went to Memphis. It was

759
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: at some facility and then it just went off the radar.

760
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: It was containing really a lot of work. I've you know,

761
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: missed it. But my wife, my poor wife, I kind

762
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: of like, who bought this wardrobe? Was really annoyed for

763
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: me because I was kind of pushing her to buy

764
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: because we kept asking, you know, Greg's, what's going on

765
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: with this? And I always sense like a low level

766
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: of panic, like either you just assumed it was going

767
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: to show up or be like I don't need the clothing.

768
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't that worried. I figured as long as I

769
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: would get upset the moment that I found out they

770
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: weren't going to pay me for it. But I was like,

771
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: if they pay you for it's fine. One of the

772
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: great breakout stars of super Bowl week to Yeah, she

773
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: did a nice job. Sorry, congratulations. I saw this just

774
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: now coming in, and I'm pretty are we blaming Merita

775
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: for losing the box? To begin with? You got to

776
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: ask the question, Yeah, she helped me out. Now she

777
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: went and found that box. It was FedEx. I claimed

778
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: her to be helpful also, But I think it's fair

779
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to like run a full investigation because the journalist, Yeah,

780
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: it's just like, what's her role in that the Jesse

781
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: Smollett controversy with that the actor the shamed actor, like

782
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: somebody had to ask the question, that's all. It's not

783
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: always the answer you want. No, Sorry, let's head back

784
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: into the lap. We gotta go Columbo. Good, All right,

785
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some Let's talk about some names, brand

786
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: names that are on this list. Some of them may

787
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: be you would be surprised that they're a little lower

788
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: than you'd expect. I'll start right at number sixty one

789
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: with a man with a hot pot and great hair

790
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: and the ladies love him, Clay Matthews. Uh. He was tortured,

791
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: emotionally tortured by the new rules of the NFL, and

792
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever the same after what

793
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: happened in in September of this year, getting some sacks

794
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: taken away and some ridiculous roughing the passer calls. But

795
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: in general, Clay Matthews has not been the same guy

796
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. And the fact that

797
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: that he potentially the Packers are gonna let him go

798
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: one of the more popular players in the last decade

799
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Imagine West is a red flag in itself.

800
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: It's a huge red flag. And I think an even

801
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: bigger red flag is that his backup Kyler fact Rol

802
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: had three times as many sacks as him. And you

803
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: might say, oh, yeah, but he's still getting to the quarterback.

804
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: He's still putting heat on opposing passers. Not really. He rarely,

805
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: he rarely even affects a quarterback. And now you like

806
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: you said, damn, maybe that's he went into a funk

807
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: with the They did take two sacks away from him

808
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: with those silly rules, and I would send me in

809
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: an existential funk. He's the type of guy. He's the

810
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: type of free agent. Yeah, I don't want, you know,

811
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: at at this stage of his career where he's coming

812
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: from his original team and he's still gonna get that

813
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: like mid level contract where it's not he's not not

814
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: a bargain yet. Like I'd rather have Terrell Suggs who's

815
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: just gonna be like a one year deal, like everyone

816
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: knows who Terrell Suggs is. I'll take the one year

817
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: deal he helps you, Or like a Shack Barrett who's

818
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: kind of a young up and coming guy who hasn't

819
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: gotten to play a lot, whereas Matthews is somewhere in

820
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: between that, I don't want any party study the game,

821
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: not the name right west exactly about Randall Cobb's teammate

822
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: ten spots down on this list, Uh Mark, He's essentially disappeared,

823
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: it seems after what really was trending as a long

824
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: successful career, and there were some injuries involved, but he

825
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared to Mike McCarthy's offense. Is he a

826
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: guy that you'd like to take a flyer on if

827
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: you're a GM. I I wouldn't because I just think

828
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: you could probably find the younger, less injury and less

829
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: injury history version of this. But I understand why someone's

830
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: going to become I'm not saying that GM is gonna

831
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: champion this, but in general, these guys, why they are

832
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: these name brands is they're in prime time games like

833
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: six or seven times year. They're in playoff runs, and

834
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: you want to hope that you get that last sort

835
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: of year or two out of them. For me, Randall Cobb,

836
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: like it's just not someone I chased down, bit of

837
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: a mystery player for me. I I really loved him

838
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: when he came to the league, and I'm still not

839
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: sure what exactly happened. It's He's one of those guys

840
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: they and they even said this early in his career,

841
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: like that his size in the aggression that he played

842
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: the game with, like would he hold up over time?

843
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: And that might be what it is, Like he played

844
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: with such a fury at his size that maybe he's

845
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: just like once you don't have that fury anymore, even

846
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: paid a little bit and you've had some injuries, it's

847
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: like it's just not the same. Well you guys. I

848
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: think Mark mentioned this name early in the show. Jamis

849
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: and Crowder is who we think Randall Cobb is. That's

850
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: who actually performs in the slot. It makes big plays

851
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: after the catch. I would save I would save the

852
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Randall cop stuff and just go at Jamison Crowder. I

853
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: mean what his free agency is not just about who

854
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: can we print on the week for home game ticket.

855
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: It's like you want to be getting guys in the

856
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: right age slot too. I mean, he's that's why you

857
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: gotta have marked out of the picture over here to

858
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: picture at the words another wide receivers that just came

859
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: out right before he went to taping. Michael Crabtree The

860
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: ravens um Um say goodbye to Crabtree Um declining speed

861
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: at this point. He's thirty one years old, but always

862
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: been a red zone good red zone target. What about

863
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: crab Tree? See a guy helps the team. My problem

864
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: with Crabtree is that I could tell that he no

865
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: longer can miss anyone after he can He can't make

866
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: anyone miss after the catch. The speed is just not there.

867
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: And to me, if I'm playing Michael Crabtree, it means

868
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: I have a problem at that position. I need to

869
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: get better at that position. I kind of I still progress.

870
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't mind Crabtree because I look at it like now,

871
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: teams need four receivers, like you kind of want four

872
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: starting initi received one of those guys has to play

873
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: special teams, sure, but you and he's not that guy.

874
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: But he's like a possession guy that could have kind

875
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: of a long a little bit like a very very

876
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: poor man's Brandon Marshall or Fitzgerald where he could still

877
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: be catching those ten yard passes and doing some things

878
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: for you as he gets older. Two other big names

879
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: at the position right behind him on our rankings, some

880
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: big name value. Kelvin Benjamin. Remember Kelvin Benjamin. He shot.

881
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want but he's like a young guy, like,

882
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't get it. He gained nearly two thousand yards

883
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: in his first year. He gained nearly two thousand pounds. Right,

884
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley seemed to give a damn. That would

885
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: be my biggest concern. Just running in Buffalo with a

886
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: young was yeah, ugly, you would hope. Maybe he's so cheap.

887
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Now him and Cole Beasley are two guys at the

888
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: end of this list. I don't think are gonna get

889
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: paid much money. I don't know some name value. H

890
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: throwout one more name. Terrell Suggs. T's sizzle. What do

891
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: they call what do you call it? Sizzle? University? Well

892
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: a so hard go read an article that guy. That

893
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: guy is lucky to be in football right now. But

894
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: Arrell Suggs has been remarkably productive. Uh, he's probably he's Greg.

895
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: You like guys with low character. Um, he's a guy

896
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: you would have on your team. I really would, because

897
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: he he is about as solid as it gets. You

898
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: kind of know what you're getting. He's he's like, uh,

899
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: he's on the James Harrison plan where you can't quite

900
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: believe he's still doing it year after year, but trying

901
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: to get around the edge on him, like if and

902
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: if he's one on one against the right matchup, he's okay.

903
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still out there producing. He I could

904
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: see him being on the Patriots. He's exactly the type

905
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: of guy that Patriots would go get for one more year.

906
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: That's what the Patriots need right now. They needs something again.

907
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Patriots gotta make a move Kaepernick, Twarrell sucks something. What

908
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Take people's minds off other scenarios

909
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: around the Patriots right now. It's just how you run

910
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: a business, right You just gotta you know, that's how

911
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: bad it is right now. That would be a welcome development.

912
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: You're wrong way. I think the Patriots have no money

913
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: questions right now. Sizzle in their six year deal. We're

914
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about it. We're gonna be talking about

915
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about him next week. I think

916
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be traded, and I think they're gonna be aggressive.

917
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go into this offseason bananas certainly

918
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: have Tyrod Taylor at seventy two. Real quick note you

919
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: your caption is a shaky starter on an irrelevant team,

920
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: are you calling? Well, yes, they were. They were irrelevant

921
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: when he was starting. They became relevant when Baker Mayfield.

922
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Okay, here's a little a little peak

923
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: behind the curtain as I pick up my contact and

924
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: put it in while I high end back up on

925
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: a contender, though that is also here's the thing. Here's

926
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: a peak behind the curtain. When West and I disagree strongly,

927
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: contact back on in front of us. Uh. When a

928
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: West and I disagree strongly on a player, if he

929
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: happens to be assigned to write up that blurb, he's

930
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna take it out on me and the player by

931
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: saying I didn't want this guy this high, so I'm

932
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna bury him because I had tyrode about sixty. He

933
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: had about and so what I'm gonna do is write

934
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: a blurb that doesn't really make any sense with where

935
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: he's ranked, just to get back at the very confusing experience.

936
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense of larities ranks. He only makes

937
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: sense by his whole career. To me, had is succinct.

938
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: It's pithy and nailed the analysis. I mean, you're saying

939
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: it's worse than like Randall Cobb and like Kenny Karo

940
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: and whatever, like I like a good backup quarterback at

941
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: the very latest can start five games. That's great. So

942
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: you get Tyrod Taylor there, and then you you know,

943
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: you're maybe a seven and nine team in the games

944
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: in which you I mean you're ranking him thirty spots

945
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: behind Quentin Spain and Darius Violing. He's known mediocrity. I

946
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: don't value that quality highly. You guys hate each other.

947
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Um one more quarterback. Since we're on the subject, and

948
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: it's always my favorite part of this countdown except for

949
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: the top ninety nine. I didn't even look at that list.

950
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: What a disgrace. But now that we're back to top

951
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: one and one, I love whoever is the last name

952
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: on the list. Greggs for Gino Smith, many many years,

953
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: he finally gave up the ghost. Uh. Sam Bradford comes

954
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: in at one oh one, the former number one overall pick.

955
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: I wonder what kind of market. I mean, this guy

956
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: got paid one year and twenty million dollars last year,

957
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: last year, this time, what is his market one year later?

958
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: I people are people are decision makers in the league,

959
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: finally going to say this dude should not be getting

960
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: paid like a mid upper cheer quarterback. It's got to

961
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: be the year, right, Yeah, I agree that it's probably

962
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: the year in my senses that he will be one

963
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: of those guys that has to wait until Junior July.

964
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: He has to prove that his knee troubles are over,

965
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: he has to prove he can move well and throw well,

966
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: and I think teams are gonna want to see him

967
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: actually work out for them. Trevor Sibian Uh is out

968
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: there too. That's quarterback. You guys stopped making no, No,

969
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be one on one. I'm just saying, Uh,

970
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: if you need a quarterback on that one, maybe board

971
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: would be. I would boardles even make that what? I

972
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: don't think I would want. You'd be a good one

973
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: on one too. I think Bradford was nice. There was

974
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: another option. Bradford was legitimately one on one. We usually,

975
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, reverse that a little bit. Yeah, we reverse

976
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: engineer to make it fun because he's at one oh

977
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: one forever, no matter who's caught, no matter who's tagged,

978
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: he just stays there. Frank Gore was another option who

979
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: was in the ballpark. Uh, but you know, um real

980
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: quick quick aside, this list does get a lot of views.

981
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: The NFL really pumps this thing up. They promoted a

982
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: lot anybody's that's come after you, guys um as a

983
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: pair or individually in the past about their blur or

984
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: where their numbers are. They'll throw a couple names out there.

985
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: Well there is I forget the guy's name, but an

986
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: agent for one I think it was so many. Yeah,

987
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: Jared Allen's agent went to Ian Rappaport and said, this

988
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: guy Westling and Rosenthal or whatever. They have no idea

989
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. And it's because we didn't rate

990
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: like an age thirty six Jared Allen as a top

991
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: twenty free agent or something. It's it's funny because do

992
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: they often come to you and get your phone number

993
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: and call you up or is it usually going to

994
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: like Rappaport or Gara Folo or Mike Silver and be

995
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: and like talk to these clowns back in the hand

996
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: and get it or do you get Hey, it was

997
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers safety who wanted to kick your butt.

998
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Good luck trying that. Yeah, hitting her was not happy.

999
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: Well he got a contract too, I mean no longer

1000
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: in the league. Like, let me change and let me

1001
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: have a nickname, let me get as close to the

1002
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: biggest monster of the twentieth century. I'm gonna call me

1003
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: hitting her. I mean that's his last name. That's not

1004
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: in this one. May say there's been a few. Yeah,

1005
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: the players players don't like it. I think there was

1006
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: a guy in one of the bills secondary guys was

1007
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: upset last year it happened. I was hoping for a

1008
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: name this category, although the Jared Allen one was saucy. Yeah,

1009
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I never really. I was like, hey, how about you

1010
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: you should represent players and let us grade grade them.

1011
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, do your job, will do ours. Let's talk

1012
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: a little scientist heat here players. Because the way you

1013
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: guys figure this out right, you both come up with

1014
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: your one on ones and then you average it essentially

1015
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: or is there dis gushing? It's a it's kind of

1016
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: a process. Uh. And the average it out there used

1017
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: to be then after the averaging a discussion, but now

1018
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: we're just kind of mailing it in. All right again,

1019
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: stop pulling back the curtain. Do you want to be

1020
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: a millionaire? Greg? Yes? Or no? I'm trying to get

1021
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: you there. Okay, thanks, you know everything. There's no you're

1022
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: in on this exercise. We are. We put a lot

1023
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: of work into it. I just those the conversations don't

1024
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: happen because they never really improved the list that much.

1025
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: We just would get annoyed at each other. Tyrod Taylor

1026
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: came up already. Uh, you guys were on different pages

1027
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: with that, so the number is a little wonky as

1028
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: a result. Teddy Bridgewater, we mentioned how about the Eastern

1029
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: Bloc Margat's Hunt West. I know you like yourself some

1030
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: Margut's hunt apparently, Greg not so much. Greg could accuse

1031
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: me of saying that this guy's a one year wonder,

1032
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: but to me, he was a great fit in that

1033
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: defense with Mattieberflus, and he was throughout the entire season

1034
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: one of the most disruptive defensive tackles in the NFL.

1035
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: I want that, That's exactly what I want. Why would

1036
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: they not go back and get him again? He's older

1037
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: than you would think. He came into the league and

1038
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: I think he's thirty two years old now, so I

1039
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: think he might have trouble getting like a three or

1040
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: four year deal. There's some guys who just gotta stay

1041
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: out of the table for you know what I mean.

1042
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: When you're making these Lesiola's gotta over ranked them because

1043
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: that's just like your guy, and that's Margus Hunt. For West.

1044
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: I would say I'm pretty high on Margus Hunt. I

1045
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: had him ranked in my top sixty. He's a guy

1046
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: who has not that high for as well as he

1047
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: played last year. The number one eyebrow arch though in

1048
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: this exercise, I mean, he doesn't rush the passer at all,

1049
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: so you can well, that's just not true. I mean

1050
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: he had about fifteen pressures. Well, they changed his position

1051
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: halfway through the year, so he was rushing the pass

1052
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: her early and getting to the passer often, and then

1053
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: they changed him to nose tackle, and then Denico Autry

1054
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: started getting to the passer because Margus Hunt was taken

1055
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: up two defenders on every I really like him. I do.

1056
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I like him more than let's just look at the

1057
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: names right in front of him. Henry Anderson. No, uh,

1058
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: you know in terms of pastor sure sugs. No, you know,

1059
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I think he's a nice he's a nice player. It

1060
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: is the number one eyebrow razor in this exercise for

1061
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: me is why is this guy hitting the market? What

1062
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: are the colts see that? They're like, we take our chances.

1063
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: But that's well they're probably gotta It's just whether whether

1064
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: they want to pay him how much he because this

1065
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: is a guy who's has not made a ton of

1066
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: money in his career and this is probably his best

1067
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: chance to score a big contract. Tyrelle Williams, you guys

1068
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: were not on the same page about WHOA. I was

1069
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: surprised by that because he's a Charger. Yeah, Greg loves

1070
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Where did you like? Where did you have him? Greg?

1071
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: Where did West have him? West had him very high?

1072
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: I think in the top thirty. To me, he's a

1073
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: nice rotational guy, like kind of how we were talking

1074
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: about every team needs three or four receivers. He could

1075
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: be one of those three or four. But he's been

1076
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: in a great, great situation in Los Angeles and that's

1077
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: kind of what he is. He's a six hundred, seven

1078
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: hundred yard type of guy. Well, hasn't he been a

1079
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: thousand yard guy? Yeah? When they were hurt? You're right,

1080
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: And I think if another team signs him to be

1081
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: they're outside deep threat, he's gonna he's gonna be a

1082
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: pretty good signing. He does do something that almost no

1083
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: one on this list does, which is like go deep.

1084
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Like those guys just don't get to free agency, which

1085
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: is why I think like the Sean Jackson for instance,

1086
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: maybe he had a seventy catch one thousand, fifty nine

1087
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: yards sevent TV season two years ago. Sure. Um, Finally,

1088
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: if you're if your team, your favorite team to be

1089
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: already battled about a lot of the ones Teddy, it

1090
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: was all good organic combo um. Positions of depth, James.

1091
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: If you are a team that's in the market for

1092
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: defensive line and safety, those are two positions, uh scientists

1093
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: where there's a lot of options and you could go

1094
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: get your guy right now. I think defensive line is

1095
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: the deepest. Safety is pretty deep, and I think you

1096
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: can even throw running back in this year is a

1097
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: pretty deep group. Kicker, I mean we didn't even get

1098
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: to Stephen Gotskowski is available, Jason Myers is available. We

1099
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: got some kickers. It's crazy because the draft, that's all

1100
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: about the draft. It's not deep in all these positions.

1101
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for defensive line, there's more than enough,

1102
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: way more than enough. So suddenly it's like, how does

1103
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: that impact Are you gonna go spend and blow your

1104
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: entire budget on a veteran. It's a good point that

1105
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: that could depress some values out there, like we disagreed.

1106
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: Another name was Malcolm Brown of the Patriots a lot.

1107
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: It was a former first round pick who kind of

1108
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: fell out of favor. Like guys like that might not

1109
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: get paid very much because there's so many good guys

1110
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: in the draft that teams are going to look for.

1111
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to hear this guy because he's

1112
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: like a forty times Super Bowl champion. Now, but Giskowski,

1113
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: he's my new Dalton line for kickers. Well he's good

1114
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: at kicker. Well he's getting older. Is the primary is

1115
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: that article doing in the metrics hunt? It's coming together.

1116
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: It actually would probably do decent. I think it probably would.

1117
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: They would do fine. Yeah, but he's my new Dalton line.

1118
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: That's where he is now. What he's like, he's been

1119
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: over the course of his career. He's would have been

1120
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: the best kickoff guys in the league. What does this mean? Underrated?

1121
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: Like in the year two thousand nineteen, what does it

1122
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: mean to be a good kickoff guy when just about

1123
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: anybody he can kick it out of the end zone

1124
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: when they want to, And certain guys like Belichick will say, hey,

1125
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't want you to kick it there, I want

1126
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: you to put it between five and the goal line.

1127
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: So he's really good at that. But a lot of

1128
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: kickers could be good at that if they were asked

1129
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: to do it. I just made and being a good

1130
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: kickoff guy has that much value anymore. It doesn't have

1131
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: as much, You're right, But there's still about ten twelve

1132
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: teams with guys that can't do kickoffs all the time.

1133
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: So that's ten twelve teams with a significant disadvantage to

1134
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: me and Gustowski could do it. And on the other

1135
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: end of the spectrum here, if you are a team

1136
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: mark that's looking to build some weapons, uh, if you

1137
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: want a tight end who could bust down the seam

1138
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: and split a defense wide open, spill their guts all

1139
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: over the turf. If you want a wide receiver on

1140
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: the outside, um, you're this is not the free agent

1141
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: class for you. And also, and this is an annual thing.

1142
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: If you're looking for old line help, it's just always

1143
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: gonna be a scarce scarcity of aligneman and you're gonna

1144
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: look to the college game, uh to find a younger solution.

1145
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: That seems to extend more and more to the college

1146
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: game too, where it's like it's I don't know, maybe

1147
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: it's just a trend. But it's like how many drafts

1148
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: in a row where it's like, well, there's one or

1149
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: two tackles, but there aren't many more. It's just because

1150
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: we aren't you know, how many people being raised on

1151
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: farms like throwing animals over fences anymore? People are just there.

1152
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Is why he's down of the lab. I'm just saying,

1153
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: like this society is growing weaker, and so these like

1154
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: BF dudes that just want to get hit four billion

1155
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: times or there's a less of a flock of them.

1156
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: Cook is number twenty six on the list, Jared Cook,

1157
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: and we talked about him earlier. Who is the next

1158
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: tight end? Is a boy? Is my boy Eyford? Like

1159
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: he is indeed, And that's all the way down at

1160
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Who's the number one wide receiver in the

1161
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: market right now? Jamison Crowder, Golden Tate, maybe Golden Tate,

1162
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: You got John Smokey Brown's in there. Devin Funchs is

1163
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: a guy that I want to see what he gets

1164
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: paid because I never thought he was a good player,

1165
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: but he is one of those big outside receivers who

1166
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: don't make it. He'd scare me if I needed to

1167
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: rely on him for much. Yeah, he looks every once

1168
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: in a while. I looked great for about five weeks.

1169
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: That's it. Um, Finally I just went boys. I wanted

1170
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: to revisit last year's top ten and see where you Well,

1171
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: this is after the tags got you know, applied and

1172
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: after the tag What a joke that we even had

1173
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: Drew Brees on this list last year. But I get

1174
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: that he had to be there technically speaking. He was

1175
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: a free agent, signed a two year, fifty million dollar deal.

1176
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins at number one, And it's amazing how much

1177
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: everyone spoke about Kirk Cousins and then what he delivered

1178
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: on the field and what now The way people view

1179
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins now seems to be different now a year later.

1180
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: Well that's another argument that West put forward. You better

1181
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: have an offensive line before you plug these people in. Yeah,

1182
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is number two and got and Domin con

1183
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: Sue was three, Allen Robinson four, Honey Badger five. We

1184
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't talk about Honey Badger because he's a free agent again. Uh,

1185
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: after a solid year in Houston. Sheldon Richardson six, also

1186
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: a free agent again, trying to get a term deal. Uh.

1187
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins at seven, Andrew Norwell at eight, Kyle Fuller

1188
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: at nine, and case Keenum was number ten. Where's case

1189
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: this year? Oh he's still on the team still, he's yea.

1190
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Where would he fall on this list? I would put

1191
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: him probably No, I would have him somewhere around the

1192
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater range. Really, I would definitely have him lower

1193
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: than that. But the record number thirteen on your list

1194
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: after the tags last year, I would rather Yeah. I

1195
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: mean we definitely some of those Bradford fourteen to one

1196
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: oh one. Kyle Fuller was was quite a value, not

1197
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: that he totally got out there. And you seem like

1198
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: you can find good cornerbacks. There's a decent amount of

1199
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: good cornerbacks this year too, and you can find him,

1200
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: whereas those quarterbacks and Sammy Watkins got overpaid, and that

1201
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: tells us that five or six of the top thirty

1202
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: will be right back on the market a year from now.

1203
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: I think, I think, well, there are certain guys like

1204
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: and I know we're trying to go like, there's certain

1205
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: guys that are now just one year guys. Sheldon Richardson.

1206
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson is just like, we don't trust you for

1207
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: more than one year. We're happy to have you come in.

1208
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: We'll pay you for one year, and then they'll get

1209
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: by in the wheel of a car. I'd argue that

1210
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: almost every free agent is a one year guy. You

1211
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: never know how they're gonna do with a new team,

1212
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: and whatever you get, you better get up front because

1213
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: you could be out in a minute. Pull that quote

1214
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: smell you later. There you go again. Check it out

1215
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: the top one oh one free agents. Every time Dan

1216
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: is totally over and ready to say goodbye, you just

1217
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna smell you later. That's how we know NFL dot

1218
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: com slash top one oh one free agents and come

1219
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: on downstairs. Can we just make it NFL dot com

1220
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: slash top one on one. I say the same thing

1221
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: every year. That is not a good vanity r O.

1222
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: But that's what it is, NFL dot com slash top

1223
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: one oh one free agents. Uh to see the whole

1224
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: list that is it's changing. What's the word they use

1225
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: that when it's something that it's a living document, living document,

1226
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was looking for. Evolving, living breathing

1227
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: document is what they would call it. In the above

1228
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: the tree tops certainly, um, so you could check in

1229
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: on that list to see where people have signed. Uh

1230
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: if Greg and West secretly decide somebody ended up too

1231
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: high and then they sneakily change it like they did

1232
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: this morning with a player I won't say who it was,

1233
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: um that and so you could always rankings can move

1234
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Sometimes, well that we should be done

1235
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: with that jerrymandering. Well why not, Well we're not allowed

1236
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: to change your minds. I mean, I mean Gennaro was

1237
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: not thrilled that we were making the change, and nor

1238
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: was I on the topic. Why not you send it live.

1239
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: That's what you're sending out to the change our opinions

1240
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: about to decide what the what the rankings are. I

1241
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: like that you're holding our feet to the fire here.

1242
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a final edit of filmires. A

1243
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: little tough love is maybe what we need mark next year.

1244
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: I know, we don't even realize that we have to

1245
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: do it until the day comes out, and then we

1246
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: get mad that we don't have our own list. This

1247
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: is the year that we put our heads together. I

1248
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: don't really feel that mad about it. This felt like

1249
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: as much as I I'm going solo, then I'm doing

1250
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: my own top one. No af that I'm doing a

1251
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: top one out two next year that will get the

1252
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: people talking. I will really want to read this. I

1253
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: will join you, but it's not something that I think about. Well, well,

1254
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: work towards that. It's going to like one, I love it.

1255
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Three ones we wrote. We wrote blurbs for way more

1256
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: than one oh one. Oh yeah, we got like a hundred,

1257
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: got a hundred forty because once people start getting you know,

1258
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: smart smart. Thank you for giving us a roadmap. Um,

1259
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: when Mark and I have your competition next year. All right,

1260
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: We're on a plane tomorrow to Indianapolis. God will that

1261
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: plane lands? Uh? And we will deliver to you two

1262
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: more episodes of the podcast. So you'll get a show

1263
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, late afternoon UM here in the States, and

1264
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: then another show that will go up live early early Friday,

1265
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: so you'll have it for your commutes. And on Thursday, yes,

1266
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: at one thirty Pacific fourth the thirty Eastern UM nine

1267
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: thirty in London. I suppose maybe we will have our

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Speaker 1: is really cool. Dan Hanson signing off for a quiet storm.

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