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Speaker 1: Be the easily the worst player on the team.

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Speaker 2: Easily. He didn't do anything right, and he spent most

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Speaker 2: The dog just went nuts. Yeah, I mean, couldn't pass,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Sweel and welcome to the Nodungks podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Monday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skiet's back here in the Classic Factory and

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Speaker 3: alongside I mean, as always, Taskmelus.

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Speaker 2: My guest listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, we got the bearded wom Kirby. Hey,

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Speaker 3: hey yo, the bear's jersey jersey through me for a loop.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna slip something in there. Congrats on the

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Speaker 3: Bears there, big dub and over yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer jd There is here. We are, Uh.

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Speaker 3: The water has been pushed out of the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 3: Little delayed on this emergency podcast. We had our own emergency,

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Speaker 3: real emergency here in Atlanta with that storm coming through,

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Speaker 1: So no carpets here, carpets, no padding.

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Speaker 2: We're raw dogging it.

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Speaker 4: On the floor here.

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Speaker 1: You hear that slap, You can really move. But we're good.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's good.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the big news from Friday night, just

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Speaker 3: days before the start of training camp for most of

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Speaker 3: these teams here today, the Minnesota Timberwolves set the NBA

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Speaker 3: New York Knicks in exchange for Julius Randall, Dante DiVincenzo, Kita, Bates,

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Speaker 1: The Hornets are also involved in this deal.

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Speaker 3: Now, nothing's official, official, will probably happen in the coming days,

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Speaker 3: but Hornets are taking on Deyquon Jefferies.

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Speaker 2: Who I had to look up definitely.

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Speaker 3: And make sure it was a real player and draft

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Speaker 1: But yes, stunning. It is Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Trade tasks, you know, basically less than a month out

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Speaker 3: with this? What side the Knicks or the Wolves?

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Speaker 4: First and foremost. We got off sales of trades second

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Speaker 4: That's how you know it's fair. If everybody's upset and

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Speaker 4: this reads as a salary dump from Minnesota. They're trying

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Speaker 4: they're not worried about the Nuggets. Now. I would still be.

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Speaker 4: I know they lost KCP, but they've still got Nicola Jokic.

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Speaker 4: in which case you're still paying him quite a bit

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Speaker 3: That's what's the strangest thing of this trade. You have

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Speaker 3: of things for the future, from an insider Dane Moore

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves this.

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Speaker 3: think doing this move, getting you know, two players back

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Speaker 2: It is this is the new CBA. The NBA wanted

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Speaker 1: You could be next cat.

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Speaker 3: Tips back with carl Anthony Towns as well, went so

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Speaker 3: well the first time and he played some five that's right.

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Speaker 3: I guess there's no Jimmy Butler in the equation here.

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Speaker 3: We send out all your draft capital, and now this

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Speaker 4: Didn't Mitchell Robinson have a post where he's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: They've been shuffling guys in and out, like we've been

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Speaker 4: They said, Devincenzo get out of here. Tats is right

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Speaker 4: He's been missing fifteen games a year. Of course, same

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Speaker 4: I knew Jalen Brunson since he was a baby. Brunson

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Speaker 2: play more. That's great. We might see some Andry Shaman

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Speaker 2: lot on Jalen Brunson to do everything, so there's some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the trade there though, is like you're giving

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and Cat is you know, he always told

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Speaker 3: you're one in your five? Are Brunson and Cat teams

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Speaker 3: We're like, well, what are you gonna do? He shoots

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Speaker 3: like ten threes a game. Yeah, and he hits four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not exaggerating saying that Mitchell Robinson has

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Speaker 2: they were looking for a backup center. And we've talked

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Speaker 2: might even be a little bit better without Karl Anthony

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be fun to watch Kat in a

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Speaker 2: That's what they do. They didn't like the Ellipses tweet,

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Speaker 2: excited to get Corinthony Towns, who was just a damn

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear the groans from the MSG

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Speaker 3: Towns is one of ten players in MGAY history to

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched the first two rounds of the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Towns was awesome. Timberwolves don't beat either. Maybe they still

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Speaker 4: was coming off the bench anyways. He was the guy

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00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 4: that had his minutes squeezed by Bridges coming in because

432
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 4: you know, Tibodau's gonna play Josh Hard as many minutes

433
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: as he possibly can. So I think this is nice

434
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 4: for the Knicks. They're gonna have some growing pains. I

435
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 4: think they will run into problems if guys get hurt,

436
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 4: but that's what happened last year. That's what happens if

437
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 4: your team gets hurt, you can't win.

438
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talked about like the the Knicks, maybe

439
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 3: the bench now lacking a little bit because Dante was

440
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,479
Speaker 3: pretty instrumental to their success there, especially in the playoffs.

441
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 3: Even in the second half of the season. The guy

442
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: was like scoring nearly twenty points per game, like he

443
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: was on Towns numbers.

444
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right.

445
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: So I think though the similarities to what the Wolves

446
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: were looking at in this trade, like, Okay, we send

447
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: out talents, but we think nas Reed can do more,

448
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, maybe McDaniel's.

449
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: Get more opportunity.

450
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: I think the similar things are happening with the Knicks

451
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 3: on a level or lower in that they give Dante

452
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: Devincenzo up. They probably didn't want to write I mean no,

453
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: it was that was probably the hang up of this

454
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 3: trade ever happening. And then finally they relinquished Dante de

455
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: Vincenzo and maybe that Detroit Piston's pick, which probably won't

456
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: even be a first round pick. But anyway, they're looking

457
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: at this like Miles McBride deuce we think can slot

458
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: into Devincenzo's sort of role because he was good in

459
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: the playoffs. He had a couple Monster games, a couple

460
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 3: games where you know he can hit an open three,

461
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: had that first game to start the one series where

462
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 3: he hit five threes. He had a bunch of other

463
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 3: games where he did really well. So I think that's

464
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: their thinking as well, just like Nasri can take on

465
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,959
Speaker 3: more of a role. Well we've got we think Miles

466
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: Deuce McBride.

467
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: You can never decide what name. I know that he

468
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: can take over Dante's role a.

469
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Speaker 2: Little bit, A little bit for sure. Yeah, they don't

470
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: have the depth now that the Timberwolves do. It isn't

471
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: as deep. They're top heavy.

472
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 4: Okay, you keep saying to us about the depth, but

473
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 4: they went they were a game away from making the

474
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 4: conference finals last year, and that was with Hartenstein there

475
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 4: and with DDV there. So they upgraded Dante Devincenzo to

476
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 4: Michale Bridges and they upgraded Isaiah Harton Isaiah Hartenstein to

477
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 4: Karl Anthony Thomas. They're a lot better, and I mean

478
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 4: it's like the same rest of the team as well.

479
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're not ten deep, They're definitely not, but

480
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: that many guys don't play in the playoffs anyways.

481
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are guys that are in that rotation

482
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: that get hurt. I mean the guy, the guy that

483
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: karl Enton Towns was replacing right now is hurt. He

484
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: might not be able to play this postseason. I mean Randall, No, Robinson.

485
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: Oh he was hurt last year too.

486
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: They all got hurt.

487
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they ended this season not playing.

488
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: He did.

489
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: Plays are better of course this season, not just for

490
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: coll Anthony Town's trade, the Bridges trade as well than

491
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: they were at the end of last season.

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

493
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: I love Bridges of course.

494
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 4: How we traverse bodies of water without him?

495
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Right? Great question? Yeah, he is good. I do want

496
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: to see I'm trying to play named boats.

497
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank right now. Somebody here.

498
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: Boats Highland.

499
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: There you go, there go.

500
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bridges will be a decent secondary role guy. And

501
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: he supposed to be that guy in Brooklyn. But whatever happened,

502
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: there was all sorts of messed up with Ben Simmons,

503
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: Big Ben. Anybody got a tower analogy, Big Ben? Anyways,

504
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: I love Bridges, that is for sure. So yes, they

505
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: should be good. But we're talking right now for several

506
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: months as Cat as their starting center. That is a

507
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: problem going into the postseason. If that was the case,

508
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: because Mitchell Prott and Brominson does get injured every single time,

509
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: and he was hurt against Joel Embiid and he was

510
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: guarding Joelanbiid pretty well in the postseason h and was

511
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: able to get them there along with Isaiah harten Schein.

512
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: But we saw Kat, as you said, get a secondary

513
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: a second foul in the playoffs have to sit. And

514
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: so they had enough big guys to make it work

515
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: with Rudy Gobert and Nasried, but right now they don't.

516
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: Right now, the Bigs don't. Yes, of course they got

517
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: the enough wings and and Jalen brought enough enough guards

518
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: because yea, Druce McBride was good last year, but the Bigs,

519
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: there's a bit of a rotat, a bit of a concern.

520
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: I would say, oh yeah.

521
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: I just think it's weird that, like both these teams,

522
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: this could go incredibly well or it could go poorly,

523
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: and you know who's going to be the scapegoat. It's

524
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: the new guys coming in totally. So if Minnesota gets

525
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: off to a slow start, then it's like what the

526
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: hell Randall you know in Madison Square Garden in New York.

527
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: If the Knicks are struggling and it's not smooth to start,

528
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: and you know they're getting.

529
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: Lit up to offensively.

530
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Speaker 3: It's going to be Karl Anthony Towns, and I'm fascinated

531
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 3: to see how he could handle that. Especially, I mean,

532
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: Julius Randall had a weird relationship with Nick Man. He's

533
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: giving them the middle finger for.

534
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Crying out loud.

535
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: So you know, both they're like frustrating flawed players, but

536
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: like they're ceilings and their best nights. They're all NBA

537
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: talent and can win you games and postseason series and

538
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But there are stinkers as well. I mean,

539
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: you said, did you watch Karl Anthony Towns in the

540
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: playoffs last year? I did, first two rounds amazing. He

541
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: was missing an action in the conference finals.

542
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: Like forts, they're both, they both are, but he's not

543
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: a number one guy anymore.

544
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: And that's Norah's Towns. Is why why they're trading them.

545
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, Towns is a better shooter, that's for sure.

546
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. And that's why this this

547
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: trade is a puzzle. It's so fun.

548
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, if you had to pick right now,

549
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: which team will be better next season record wise or

550
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: even like moving forward. I know they're playing in different offerences,

551
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: so that's part of the equation. But yeah, like, is

552
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: it New York to you and that they can, you know,

553
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: stay relatively healthy and you're banking on that, or is

554
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: it maybe the Wolves with this incredible depth and maybe

555
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: in today's NBA where it feels like every guy misses

556
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: twenty games a season, that having that one through eight

557
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: or one through nine rotation actually helps you obviously win

558
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: a number one or two seed.

559
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, the Knicks were completely banged

560
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: up last year and they were still a top two seed,

561
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 4: right they finished second. Yep, it doesn't matter in the

562
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: regular season. Tom Thibodoh, you get injured, we got a

563
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: next guy. We got enough to win. He's been doing

564
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 4: that his entire career. The key is getting these guys

565
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: healthy for the playoffs. I think the Knicks will finish

566
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: with the better record because they're in the Eastern Conference.

567
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: I just think that they will play some worse teams

568
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: and it's just more competitive one through twelve in the West.

569
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I mean I do.

570
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: I think the Timberwolves are still probably a top four

571
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: team in the Western Conference, but I think It's harder

572
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: to fit Randal into a team alongside McDaniels and go

573
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: Baar than it will be to fit Town into a

574
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: team and just have them come in and pops and threes.

575
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: We're talking about the top of the Eastern Conference. It

576
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: is going to be fun to see Karl Anthony Towns

577
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: as they're five against christaphs porzingis like they are designed

578
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: now to take out Boston Celtics, to take them out

579
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: because Jalen Brunson is going to have lots of space

580
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: to operate, because you've got to guard Karl Anthony Towns

581
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: at the three point line if he If Tims decides,

582
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: even in a serious series where Mitchel Robinson is healthy,

583
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: why not put kar Anthony Towns at the five because

584
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: Kristaps has to come out and so now you got room.

585
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: So that's what makes them really, really good. That's why

586
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: they are designed to beat the Boston Celtics. Now, I mean,

587
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: I hate talking about injuries now, especially because it's the

588
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: off season. Everybody's zero and zero. Everybody's healthy sort of

589
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: unless you're Kawhi Leonard will talk about it. But like

590
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: the on paper, the Knicks are designed to beat the Celtics.

591
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: So that's sexy about this. And yeah in the Eastern Conference,

592
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean them, the Bucks should be better. There should

593
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: be better. There's handful teams are good. So I think

594
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: the records will be really really similar because Tim Rules

595
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: just gonna be damn good.

596
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: So Karl Anthony Towns is maybe now considered the defending

597
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: champions stopper if he did it to the Nuggets last year.

598
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: And now you're saying, you know, a big part of

599
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: this is maybe the NIXT looking at like, how do

600
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: we beat the Celtics, Like they're not breaking up that team,

601
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: they're still really good.

602
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Here comes Cat to be the answer.

603
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: He's our defensive backbone. That's a guy we need to

604
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: beat the Nuggets and the Celtics. Yeah, that is weird

605
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: when you put it on Cat versus MBID will be

606
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 4: fun again, they oh yeah, they'd be fun.

607
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely be.

608
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on this on this big trade on

609
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: Friday Night? Isn't a blockbuster?

610
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

611
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, two All NBA guys getting traded for each other.

612
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: It's true. Multiple All Stars, multiple All NBA both of them.

613
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, two wildcats. Well they're both from Kentucky. Dante DiVincenzo,

614
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: also a wildcat, different breed, records from the Villanova Reach.

615
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: Just some other dumb things. I was thinking, too bad.

616
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: Fred Katz is now a national reporter.

617
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for James Edwards the third or maybe bad,

618
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: I don't depends how you look at it. Like he

619
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: now took on the Knicks beat right role for the athletics.

620
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: This happens like a week or two later.

621
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Cat still writes about it, still wrote about this trade though.

622
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: He the cats, that's the key. His name is Cats,

623
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: the Cats. He got into it.

624
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: Carl Anthony Towns also, I would love to see a

625
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: playbill of Cats the musical. It's Kat say. I was

626
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 4: just on Wikipedia reading information about the worst movies made

627
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: of all time, and one of them was Cats because

628
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: people did not like the digital fur. So that was

629
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: what happened, Just some Cats information for you.

630
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, people hated it. I remember that. I remember not

631
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: wanting to watch it because people hated it. Yeah, it

632
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: just wasn't real enough for them.

633
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Do you think there'll be some sort of Bodega Cat

634
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: for Carl? Yeah, being there being in New York, it's

635
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: possibly possibility.

636
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be hilarious.

637
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: For this regular season because the ups and downs from

638
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: night to night for both of these guys fluctuates quite

639
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: a bit where they do look like all NBA players

640
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: one night and then can have these infuriating performances where

641
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: either you know, in Randall's case, maybe struggling from the

642
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: field that night, or you know, getting pissed off and

643
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: getting a tech you shouldn't obviously cat with dumb fouls

644
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: and the facial expressions, and it just like just adds

645
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: another flavor here to the regular season.

646
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I was already excited about, I'm even more excited about

647
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Speaker 1: with this move.

648
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Speaker 2: And I'm sort of interested in the ownership situation with

649
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves because it's it's drama filled now it ain't

650
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: sexy because they don't play basketball. But we still don't

651
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: know who's going to own the Minnesota Timberwolves. And so

652
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: that part, I know has nothing to do with the trade,

653
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: because they make this trade about financials. They have to

654
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: shed some money because they've got so many maxes now

655
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: with Jane McDaniels, Coronthley Towns and Rudy Bert. Excuse me,

656
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: Ja McDaniels, Anthony Edwards and Rudy Gobert so they have

657
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: to give up some money. But this arbitration hearing that

658
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: starts on November fourth, they're going to be on other

659
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: sides of the table with Isn't that exciting? Aren't you

660
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: exciting to see Laurie and Alex Rodriguez sitting at a

661
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: table that will never see but to play basketball?

662
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Speaker 1: Decide to get Glenn Taylor versus the both of them?

663
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Speaker 4: Ay radknhoop. Of course, I mean he's a professional athlete,

664
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Speaker 4: and also he was big for a short stands like

665
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Speaker 4: six three.

666
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Speaker 3: But as a good point, like, was this and if

667
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Speaker 3: it was, which side of ownership as they battle for

668
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: this team did they make this decision? Or was this

669
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Speaker 3: just a GM Tim Connolly sort of laying out the

670
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Speaker 3: map for the future here with Anthony Edwards, who you

671
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: feel pretty confident about being a top player in this

672
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: league sooner rather than later. And they made it because

673
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: I think I read the Wolf's tax bill was projected

674
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: at more than one hundred and million, and dealing towns

675
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Speaker 3: for two players who combined to make about nine million

676
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: less cuts at least forty million dollars off of that total. Again,

677
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: this was a this was for the cap sheet. This

678
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: trade just as much as it was for you know,

679
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: adding some depth and trying to compete with Anthony Edwards

680
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: for a title, like they save them sells a lot

681
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 3: of money here.

682
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Speaker 4: And if you're a timberwol, Sam, is that what you

683
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Speaker 4: want when you went to the conference finals for the

684
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Speaker 4: first time in twenty years?

685
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Speaker 1: That's the rub.

686
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: No, that's not what you want. Your rights ask You're like,

687
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: you're talking about the ownership changing over. Probably they got

688
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: to drop some money. So does that mean that they're

689
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: trading Randall for a one year rental?

690
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Speaker 3: Ye?

691
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: Right, you know, look, or are they paying him like

692
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: a little bit less than they paid Towns? But then

693
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: the money between him and de Vincenzo adds up to Towns.

694
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Speaker 4: I guess you get in two guys for one, but

695
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: they I don't think there's going to be a lot

696
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: more flexibility for this team. And if that's the case,

697
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: I would rather roll with Towns because I think he's

698
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: a better player. But that's just me.

699
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that and the Timberwolves are saying, well, we

700
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 2: need more guys, and so that's why they go get

701
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: de Vincenzo, who they're happy with. And it's sort of

702
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: also being overlooked in this He's a great get. He

703
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: is a very very good get. He can play anytime.

704
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: He may not start, I don't I don't see him starting,

705
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: and he I'm sure, was a little upset by getting

706
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges in New York because we're gonna go down Sez.

707
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: He's going to play a ton now and so this

708
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: is just a win for the NBA. They see parody,

709
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: They see the Timberwolves making this trade. They see parody

710
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: because it's it's difficult to operate in that sphere of

711
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: money and now in the NBA with the new CBA.

712
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: So they like that as far as the NBA goes.

713
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're a Timberwolf fan, you might say,

714
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: oh gosh, what if Julis Randall is a one year

715
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: and goo one year in god type of guy that

716
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Speaker 2: sucks just playing old sucks if that happens. But I

717
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: guess they're gonna sign him too cheaper for a long

718
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: term deal and then, let you know, some of their

719
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: other guys.

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Speaker 3: Go possibly like a Nikhil Alexander Walker is coming up

721
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: for a contract again.

722
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good Yeah, that's a good go.

723
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Speaker 3: But Devincenzo, he's on what maybe one of the best

724
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: bargain deals in the NBA. I think he makes like

725
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: eleven and a half million m hm. And like we said,

726
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: he was a twenty point per game score forty from three.

727
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: He's a hard nosed defender at least, like you know,

728
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: you can put him on the Wolves defense and it's

729
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: not gonna fall off because he comes screaming around, screams like,

730
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: he fights through that stuff as a trailer and stuff

731
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: like that. Decent size, so that shouldn't be an issue

732
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: where you're suddenly like.

733
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Speaker 1: Oh, we got this shooter.

734
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Speaker 3: Usually you get a shooter and it feels like, well,

735
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna hurt defensively because all he does is bomb threes, right,

736
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Speaker 3: But he gives you a little bit on that end.

737
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, fun trade, fun fund trade. Any other thoughts.

738
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Speaker 4: I wonder if Devincenzo ends up becoming the long term

739
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: starting shooting guard for the Timberwolves when Mike Conley retires,

740
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Speaker 4: because everybody's like, how come the Timberwolves didn't address their

741
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: point guard spot. They've got an old guy, and Mike

742
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: Conley he's what thirty seven thirty old, and then their

743
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: backup is nineteen years old, right, that's crazy. That's like

744
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: it's a double right, that's a double in age right there.

745
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: But I'm wondering, if you know, similar to weird comparison

746
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: when the Grizzlies traded Yonas Valentnis for Steven Adams because

747
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: they didn't want to have to keep give him the

748
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: ball to Yonas Valannis, maybe Anthony Edward then becomes the guy.

749
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: He's bringing it up, He's Luka Doncic, he's handling it

750
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: all the time, and now we've got a knockdown shooter

751
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: outside of him. I wouldn't be surprised that that's the

752
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: future for Aunt.

753
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call.

754
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on the Hornets part of the equation here?

755
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: It must be nice to be Dawan Jefferies and they're

756
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 4: just getting paid for having the right deal. Like didn't

757
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: that happen to Keith van horn one time? Like the

758
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: Nets needed matching salary or something, so he'd been retired

759
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 4: for like three years. They just kicked him a million

760
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: dollars to match the books. Good to be in the

761
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: right place at the right time.

762
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Speaker 3: And I glossed over the pick that is coming to

763
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: Minnesota as well, that first round pick by Waydy Troit.

764
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 3: You might you might be even listening or watching, Go

765
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: what the hell I mean, we're talking about the Pistons here.

766
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: There should be a good pick. It's protected top thirteen,

767
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: protected in twenty five, Top eleven, protected in twenty six,

768
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: top nine protected in twenty seven. If it does not

769
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: convey by then it turns into a second round pick.

770
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Speaker 3: You know, the Pistons are at some point maybe gonna

771
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: start becoming a competent basketball team and improved, so maybe

772
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: that turns into a pick of a first round pick

773
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: for the world.

774
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I think there is a chance in twenty twenty seven,

775
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: basically three seasons. So you're saying, in three seasons you

776
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: want the Detroit Pistons to be a play in team, right,

777
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: because then it conveys, then it's a real pick. Right,

778
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: that's possible.

779
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is.

780
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference. I mean, they just have to be

781
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: the twentieth worst team in the NBA. That's that's basically

782
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: what it is. That's not bad, you're crazy way, That's

783
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: all they have to be for three years from now,

784
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: so they can stank stink in back to back years

785
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: and then just be Okay, it's possible.

786
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: That'd be a true sicko bet right there betting on

787
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: whether that pick will be a first round pick by

788
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Speaker 3: way of the Pistons for Minnesota.

789
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: I bet it.

790
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean it probably will be moved ten more times before.

791
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: We get to that.

792
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: They could easily trade it. Yeah, three years, I mean

793
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: the Pistons would be happy to pay that out, you know. Yes,

794
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: if they're a top twenty team in three seasons, they'll

795
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: be popped. Yes, yes, it might even be this year.

796
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: We'll see.

797
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: Well, let's hear from everybody right now on YouTube. It

798
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: takes se Hit the like button, make sure you subscribe.

799
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: Who do you think won the Trader? What are your

800
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: thoughts on Randall of the Wolves and Evincenzo and obviously

801
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: Cat going to New York City? Is this a win win,

802
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: a lose lose better for one team than the other?

803
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: A TVD, which obviously you can play right now in

804
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: the off season.

805
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: Let us know, don't tell us it's a TVD. You

806
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: gotta make a decision.

807
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: You got to call your shot on this line.

808
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: Ridiculous. All right, we got some.

809
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: Other NBA news, let's slip it in here. Pelicans guard

810
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: Jose Alvarado has agreed to a two year contract extension

811
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: worth nine million dollars. The contract includes a player option

812
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: for the twenty six twenty seventh season, so they're extending

813
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Alvarado here Grand theft Alvarado there in New Orleans.

814
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: That's a fan favorite, fan favorite, also a locker room favorite.

815
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody loves this guy around. It's a pretty

816
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: damn good deal for a backup guard who's entering his

817
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: primary still young, and he had his best year shooting

818
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: the three last year, played great for Puerto Rico in

819
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: the Olympics. This guy's a great guy to have around.

820
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: It's like it's like Deuce McBride money, who just signed

821
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: a recent deal this past season. It's not a lot

822
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: of money. Four and a half million dollars. I know,

823
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: it's weird to hear that. Four and a half million

824
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: dollars is not a lot of money for basketball players

825
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: in America and Canada. For those players, I mean, it

826
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: might mean more in Europe, et cetera, but four and

827
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: a half millions is nothing. So it's a good deal

828
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: for David Griffin to sign him to. I can't wait

829
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: to see what this Pelicans team is. Still a question mark,

830
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: still a big question mark. What this team is with

831
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: all the part of it all. Yeah, de Jontay Murray,

832
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: et cetera.

833
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: What is but a lot of good Zion Williamson content

834
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: coming out of the summer, right, good vibes, good look,

835
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: bod looks tight. I feel there's a lot of confidence

836
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: around there. But any thoughts on Elvarado here for a

837
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: pretty cheap deal, Like Test said.

838
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: Cheap deal. It's like some rookies get four and a

839
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 4: half million a season or like a Nick Batoomb guy

840
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: at the end of his career. So I think it's

841
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: worth it on vibes alone. Hopefully he can actually shoot

842
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: it like he did last season thirty seven percent his

843
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: rookie year twenty nine, thirty four in his second season.

844
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Speaker 4: So if he shoots thirty seven percent, gives you the

845
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: mojo off the bench, the defense, he will outplay this contract,

846
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah.

847
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: And he's like the definition of the guy that changes

848
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: the speed of the game when he comes in off

849
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: the bench, just being that spark plug and obviously like

850
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: getting up in everybody's grill and just being a little

851
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: little water bug out there because he is relentless with.

852
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: The energy in the hustle.

853
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, he averaged seven points to assist per game

854
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: in fifty six game Nob he came in a season

855
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: injured last year, there was that. Now he got hurt

856
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: too for Puerto Rico, right, he buggered up his ankle,

857
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: but I think then he fo it. Yeah, he did

858
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: play through it there for his country. But yeah, this

859
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: is this makes sense on that type of deal for sure,

860
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: and even for him right with the player option, he

861
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: could have a really good year backing up to Jeante

862
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: Murray and maybe the Pelicans catch a lot of people

863
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: by surprise whatever, and then he could obviously go get

864
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: some more money. Other news, this was very, very strange.

865
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: The Athletics Andrew marchand dropped an NBA media bomb. On Thursday,

866
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: ESPN parted ways with NBA senior writer Zach Lowe Professor

867
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Lowe as part of the network's continuing layoffs. Zacholo had

868
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: been with ESPN for twelve years, first starting at the

869
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: long form site grant Land back in the day. He

870
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: might remember that, and besides writing and appearing on TV,

871
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: hosted the low po podcast. How shocked were you by this?

872
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: On Thursday? I mean, I know we got the big

873
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: trade on Friday, but this was in our world equally surprising.

874
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I thought him being laid off here.

875
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I have advice for some other sports media companies

876
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: out there who see Zachlo available, go get it and

877
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: get it, go sign him as the great Jalen Rose

878
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: loves to say, get it. Oh. Lowe is very, very,

879
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: very good at his profession. He's good at writing about it.

880
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: He knows about the game, he's good at talking about it.

881
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: He's good at making connections within front offices. It's yeah,

882
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: it's very surprising. It's very very strange. If he wants

883
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: a job, he's going to get it right. I don't

884
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: know the details but about ESPN and the relationship or whatever,

885
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: but it is extremely weird.

886
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: Yes, by all accounts, low salary was the biggest factor

887
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 3: in Espenn's decision. A little strange when they just paid,

888
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: uh was it thirty billion for you know, NBA media

889
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: rights and you had one of the most well respected

890
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: writers and podcasters and really television personalities.

891
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: He's got a lot better at that.

892
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: I thought over the years in low and they pivot

893
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: away from him, and he's like, you know, he'll be

894
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: he's laid off, so he's gonna be like not working

895
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: for a year he'll get paid.

896
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: You're still gonna pay him. That makes it even weirder.

897
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: He's gonna have two beers.

898
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Exactly, gonna get drunk watching the games. Now, Yeah, well,

899
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about this one?

900
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: I mean, it's super disappointing, like in the sports media

901
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: landscape to get a guy who is like one of

902
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: the best basketball writers out there, incredible podcast are good

903
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: on TV and this guy is getting laid off. That's

904
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: just disappointing. But he's gonna end up thriving whenever he

905
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: comes out of this on the other side and he

906
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: goes where it will be, if it'll be an independent thing.

907
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: But just pointing that ESPN would make this kind of choice.

908
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: They have lost so much and basically the past year

909
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: they've lost Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson, Doc Rivers,

910
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: JJ Redick, woj and now Zach as well.

911
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

912
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: That's like the start of an awesome network right there.

913
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: And that's just guys that are walking away from ESPN.

914
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: You throw in the fact that they just paid all

915
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: this money to re up their rights deal as the

916
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 4: number one rights holder as well, doesn't make sense.

917
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: Bummer.

918
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we will we'll see eventually where Zach low lands.

919
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: Like you said, there's gonna be no shortage of suitors

920
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: wanting to add him to their NBA coverage. Maybe a

921
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: potential silver lining with the ESPN departure for Zach Lowe

922
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: is like he will be, I don't know, more empowered

923
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: to chase topics that he really wants to like dig

924
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: his teeth into and write about or podcast about, because

925
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: I think once you're at that ESPN, you know, hot

926
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: take machine, you can get like caught up in the

927
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: gears of that.

928
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: Now.

929
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 3: I think he did a really good job of still

930
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: like obviously sort of separating himself from that. But you know,

931
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: maybe he'll have more of a passion for whatever he

932
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: wants to do at his next stop. So I guess

933
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: that's a silver lining. Cui really really weird.

934
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: My phone was.

935
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 3: Blowing up at the cottage with Thursday night and Friday

936
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: not you know, with all the hurricane stuff going on too. Man,

937
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: they were just like big news out of everywhere. I

938
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: can't I can never go to the lake House again

939
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: anytime I go. All this all hell breaks loose.

940
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: Honestly, we needed it. We hadn't had NBA news for

941
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: like a month. Yeah, finally they come through.

942
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: That's right, all right.

943
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: Clipper star Kawhi Leonard is dealing with swelling in his

944
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: right knee, the organization revealed this last week. News came

945
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: on the same day that the Athletics Shams Sharanya reported

946
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: that Kawhi had undergone a knee procedure during the off season.

947
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Team president Lawrence Frank told reporters that Leonard will be

948
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: kept out of drills during training camp in order for

949
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: him to be back at full strength. I'm glad we

950
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: didn't make this the is this news segment here?

951
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: Because this is not news.

952
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: This is just every day it was Kawhi Leonard unfortunately,

953
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: but yeah, what do you think of this?

954
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a bummer. The guy hasn't finished the

955
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: playoffs in four seasons. It was interesting the way things

956
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: went down with Team USA. They said he had a

957
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: surgery in May, went and reported for Team USA camp

958
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: in July, got sent home. The Clippers were like, we

959
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: didn't want him sent home. QUSA was like, he wasn't

960
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 4: good enough to be here, he wasn't healthy enough. Clearly,

961
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: Team USA was telling the truth and the Clippers weren't.

962
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: Because his knee wasn't ready during the summer if it's

963
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: not ready now, So I guess if you're the Clippers,

964
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: you would rather have Kawhi heard at the beginning of

965
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: the year then at the end of the year. But

966
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't think him being out now guarantees that he's

967
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: going to be healthy come playoff times. So it's going

968
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: to be James Harden. He's the system now he's going

969
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: to really have to carry now that Paul George is

970
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: on the seventy six ers. Hopefully this is a short

971
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 4: absence for Kawhi and hopefully they manage his knee well

972
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: enough during the season this year that he can actually

973
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 4: play in the postseason.

974
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the keyword is hopefully. Unfortunately. I mean, I love

975
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: to be positive and think that about Kawhi Leonard, but

976
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: as you said about their front office reaction when he

977
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: was sent home from the team USA, they spoke out

978
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: and they said we did not want him being sent home.

979
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: Lawrence Frank said that was not the plan. We're upset

980
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: about that. And now he goes into camp air quotes

981
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: strengthening his knee. This is obviously the same thing played over,

982
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: played out over and over again, because he kind of

983
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: did the same thing. Going into the postseason. He set

984
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: out and they were trying to strengthen that acl which

985
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: he has done before and he's been able to come

986
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: through it and play extremely well. But it didn't happen.

987
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: In the playoffs. He played two games which he was

988
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: not looking like himself whatsoever. So he undergoes a procedure.

989
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: Then he goes to tm USA and apparently he was

990
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: playing pretty well in the warm ups and in practice,

991
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: but obviously he was not because they sent home. They said,

992
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: we cannot have a question mark amongst our twelve guys.

993
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: So they go get Derek White and said, who is

994
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: extremely healthy. So this is just I can't be the

995
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: same positive guy about Kawhi Leonard's knee. It's impossible and

996
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: we didn't really talk about it. Excuse me when he

997
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: signed the extension in January as a three year extension.

998
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: But it was and is puzzling now looking back at it,

999
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: that the Clippers said, here's one hundred and fifty million dollars.

1000
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: You basically can't finish any postseason over the last four years,

1001
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: as you said, Trey, and here there they're paying him

1002
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: a lot of money. So that's yeah, it's just extremely bumming.

1003
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's depressing.

1004
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: Really.

1005
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: The Clippers did something else on Friday. They agreed to

1006
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: a three or forty seven million dollar contract extension with

1007
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: Terrence Man. Who is going to get maybe an opportunity here,

1008
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: even more of an opportunity if Kawhi Leonard is missing

1009
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: the start of the season. Who knows, I'm looking ahead here.

1010
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: It's the inflammation. It feels like this thing like you know,

1011
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: kicks up on that surgically repaired knee every once in

1012
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: a while, unfortunately way too often. But then sometimes looks good.

1013
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: Sometimes maybe he feels better. But Terrence Man got a

1014
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: pretty good deal here. Surprised me how old he is

1015
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: turns twenty eight next month. I thought he was younger

1016
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: than that.

1017
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: He's not a young man at all.

1018
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: Well, good stuff from the Clippers, because remember during the

1019
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: James Harden trade negotiations, Terrence Man was like the big

1020
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: sticking point, will the Sixers be able to get him

1021
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: for Harden? The Clippers held out and said we got

1022
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: to keep this guy around. They were able to keep

1023
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: him around, shipped out Batum and Batuman ended up coming

1024
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 4: back to the Clippers anyways. And I mean, he's gonna

1025
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: play even more with Kawhi Leonard out. He's a good

1026
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: backup for Kawhi can obviously move into the starting lineup

1027
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 4: when they need him to. So cheap deal for the Clippers.

1028
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: And you know, I think Terrence Man, everybody still assumes

1029
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: he's the guy who was lighting up the Jazz when

1030
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: Ruey Goobert was struggling there that last playoff run that

1031
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: they had together. He's not always that guy, but he

1032
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: can be that guy sometimes.

1033
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: Yep, thirty nine points that night when they closed out

1034
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: the Jazz and he was his playoff high is way

1035
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: higher than his regular season high. It happened that night.

1036
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: Final piece of news here, the Trailblazers will honor Rip

1037
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: city legend Bill Walton with a band on their jerseys.

1038
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: Throughout the twenty four to twenty five season. All of

1039
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: Portland's jerseys will feature a uniquely Walton tied die band

1040
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: along the top of the left side there with his

1041
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: thirty two number in white. Walton passed away on May

1042
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: twenty seventh at the age of seventy one, So this

1043
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: is it was a cool little feature here instead of

1044
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: the like the normal black band with the tie die.

1045
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it looks cool, and it's nice that

1046
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: the Trailblazers get to honor one of their greatest players

1047
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 4: of all time. Because when did you say Walton passed away?

1048
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: I think the in May, I think yeah, I think so.

1049
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: The Blazers were already done playing their season, the Celtics

1050
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: had a chance to honor him during the finals and stuff,

1051
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 4: and now the Blazers get to do the same. Timing wise,

1052
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: my guess is that it would be too late to

1053
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: do like a full tid eye jersey for the Blazers.

1054
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: But now I'm thinking twenty six twenty seven season will

1055
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 4: be the fifty year anniversary of their championship in nineteen

1056
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: seventy seven, full tid die jerseys they should do for

1057
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: Bill Walton.

1058
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is fun too.

1059
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: The organization will host a special Bill Walton Tribute Night

1060
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: on March ninth, when the Pistons visit. The night will

1061
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: feature special elements throughout to honor Walton and his contributions

1062
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: to Rip City in the game of basketball. All fans

1063
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: and attendants are encouraged to wear tied I and will

1064
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: receive a special tied I headband so they can rock

1065
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: Bill's classic style so I know we're starting to figure

1066
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: out our schedule here. I would like to start the

1067
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: petition to send up least Tray Kirby to Portland for

1068
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: March ninth for Bill Walton Tribute night. Very good call,

1069
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: you know as the Grateful Dead. I love that, you know, man,

1070
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: I think that would be really nice. We know you

1071
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: have tidy. You don't have to go dip into our

1072
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: budget for that.

1073
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: I've got a Bill Walton shirt right So now I

1074
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: want to go March ninth, March Night. There's not much

1075
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: going on in the NBA season in March ninth. That's

1076
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: a perfect time. Ex That's why the Blazers are like

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00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: second half of the season.

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00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, please Pistons coming to Oh yeah, maybe sell

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00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: out that night for sure.

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00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes. And Bill Walton would love seeing an arena full

1081
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: of Ti Dice shirts. And he would love if the

1082
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: Portland Trail Blazers celebrated him by putting on at Ti

1083
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Die jersey. As he said, trade, that's a great idea.

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 2: They should. They should four Bill.

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00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Be warm ups at least they could do for that night,

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00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: especially if they had plaid jerseys. They can wear a

1087
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 3: tight end come one jerseys. About the or at least

1088
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: elements of their airport carpet exactly City editions.

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00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: City editions can be one upped like ten times up.

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00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: This is for Bill. City editions are never awesome. Rip

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00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: City does great things.

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Speaker 1: I think they will.

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00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that's great advice.

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00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 3: Okay, well, we'll get March ninth on the calendar there

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00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: and try and get TK there for Bill Walton Tribute night.

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00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: But I like that they're doing that little band for

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00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: the entire season.

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00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 4: We do, unfortunately, have some more news. Sham Sharana reported

1099
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: Basketball Hall of Famer to Kenba Mtumbo has passed away

1100
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: at fifty eight years old due to brain cancer.

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00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: So Rip just happened.

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00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: Just happened, jeez. He's been dealing with cancer for several years.

1103
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: It has been a number of years and they've kept

1104
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: it low, although Alonzo morning when visiting him, so there

1105
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: was that report from I think it was twenty twenty two.

1106
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: So it's been something that's bothering him obviously a great

1107
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: deal for several years. But again it was extremely under

1108
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: the radar. It really really wasn't talked about a lot.

1109
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 2: But Kemba had been dealing with a lot of things

1110
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: in his family, I'm sure had been dealing with a

1111
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: lot of things.

1112
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Speaker 3: One of one of the greatest guests we ever had

1113
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: on the Starters when he joined us at the desk.

1114
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: He was great when we had him on the show,

1115
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: but then he was even better in the in between,

1116
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: like between I don't know, maybe B block and C

1117
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: block whatever it is. We go to commercial break and

1118
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: he's just telling stories for so long and we're like

1119
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: us and the crew are just like enraptured by what

1120
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: he's saying, Like, wait a second, we do have to finish, Yeah.

1121
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: To go live, try and hurry up to Kenby Matumbau

1122
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: to get up out of a seat to move.

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Speaker 2: But man, that was cool.

1124
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: That was a special moment for us and you You've

1125
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: had a.

1126
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: Couple other like uh, you know, clips or whatever you did.

1127
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: The one thing was that in London, it was yeah,

1128
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: I had tea with yes, Yes, we're trying to make

1129
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: that throat that that throat that's always always seemed to

1130
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: be just you know, a little bit horse a little

1131
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: bit better with that tea. But he was the phenomenal there.

1132
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal on an airport helping and then sorry,

1133
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: on an airplane helping people with their bags, getting it

1134
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: up into Yeah, we ran.

1135
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: We would always run into the Ken Matumbo in an

1136
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: airport and his and his giant family, Yeah, traveling together,

1137
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: we stick out. It's no doubt him.

1138
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: He was always doing things for his family and he's

1139
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: a great humanitarian. Yes, it's extremely unfortunate.

1140
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: So our condolences too, did the Kemey and mc tumble

1141
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: family and friends and everyone there in the NBA community.

1142
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: We lost another great one there unforcing it way too soon,

1143
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 3: way too soon. All right, we'll call that the show

1144
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: here today. Later this week we're going to jump back

1145
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: in here in the Classic Factory and uh have a

1146
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: little fun with the Eric Rose official retirement and go

1147
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: through the case or not about whether Derek Rose is

1148
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: a deserving Hall of Famer. So we'll crunch the numbers,

1149
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: look at the tape and talk it out, and we've

1150
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: got you know, look, maybe we've got a Bias Bulls

1151
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: fan here and Trey Kirby, but I can't wait to

1152
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: hear his thoughts.

1153
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: He's wearing a bearstersy right now, but that'll be later in.

1154
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: The week, probably on Wednesday, and any other NBA news

1155
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: that comes our way. Appreciate you joining us here today.

1156
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: Hit the light button, subscribe five star ratings and reviews

1157
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: as we get closer and closer to the start of

1158
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 3: the NBA season. But really appreciate you joining us live

1159
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: here today. Until next time, Kluber Rose you.

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00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: Heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

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00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

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00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember nothing positive here, just

1163
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: thoughts with Kemy, with Timbo's family.

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Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,