Speaker 1: Check it down, man. The numbers told the story, then
Speaker 1: he's down. Swando's idiots will believe in analytics. This is
Speaker 1: a numbers game with Gil Alexander gone Good Monday morning too.
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Speaker 1: Good Monday morning, after a chalk full of football Sunday
Speaker 1: and Saturday for that matter. But we're here to guess
Speaker 1: some lines on a Sunday Kelly Bidlin alongside, of course,
Speaker 1: good morning to you, sir, how are you? Good morning,
Speaker 1: Good morning. Giant Survivor, never in doubt is that how
Speaker 1: you had? You just had the Giants. That's it, Giants Survivor.
Speaker 1: I gave another one back on the Broncos. Broncos have
Speaker 1: gotten me two weeks in a row. Oh those bastards,
Speaker 1: Oh Survivor, Circus Survivor that is, we might as well
Speaker 1: start there. Another thirteen hundred and thirty nine go out,
Speaker 1: So over two weeks now three three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: four out of two hundred sixty seven. That's thirty five
Speaker 1: point eight seven percent of survivor entries Gonzo in two weeks.
Speaker 1: About right. Sounds about right. Not a carnage best year.
Speaker 1: We did fifty six percent the first week last year.
Speaker 1: Last year fifty six percent were yes, we were hired
Speaker 1: last year. We'll have a carnage week coming up. The
Speaker 1: biggest culprit was the Broncos. Ultimately would have been the Giants.
Speaker 1: We'll get to every single game from yesterday. Uh and
Speaker 1: we will guess here. For those of you who are
Speaker 1: new to this what we do, and we've done this
Speaker 1: for over a decade, I'm in a cocoon. I don't
Speaker 1: actually know the lines for Week number two. I guess
Speaker 1: what they will be. Typically, over the years, it's been
Speaker 1: our buddy on my Misch Bocha, Christy Andrews telling us
Speaker 1: what he will put up. After the show, Kelly will
Speaker 1: inform us what the consensus line actually is, and hopefully
Speaker 1: in this exercise we extract value. Really not about my guess.
Speaker 1: You can play along its interact, so it's a first
Speaker 1: sort of salvo into trying to get winning bets for
Speaker 1: the upcoming week. Before we get into it before we
Speaker 1: get into game by game here, Kelly, two and O
Speaker 1: teams San Francisco, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Baltimore, Dallas, Philly, and
Speaker 1: Tampa I guess Atlanta, Washington, and Tampa Bay not the
Speaker 1: three you'd expect of that group of eight. We could
Speaker 1: add some two and oh's and O and twos tonight,
Speaker 1: of course. And the O and twos so far Denver,
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Vikings, the Patriots, the Texans, the Bears,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Bengals. Bengals, Chargers, Vikings, and I
Speaker 1: guess for some of the Patriots and the Broncos amongst
Speaker 1: the O and two will revisit that and ask which
Speaker 1: we think is the uh the teams in the most
Speaker 1: desperate state of those O and twos coming up? Shall
Speaker 1: we begin with Thursday night? Thursday Night football? You're going
Speaker 1: to do this, let's do it week three? We guess.
Speaker 2: Maybe Thursday start with those j Ben back at it
Speaker 2: two days later. Giants at forty nine Ers eight fifteen
Speaker 2: Eastern Thursday Night.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not very fun. That game is not good, obviously,
Speaker 1: with Saquon Barkley being hurt on the closing sequence for
Speaker 1: the Giants, which turned out to be the winning closing sequence.
Speaker 1: This could be an ugly line Giants, in case you
Speaker 1: missed it yesterday, And for those who had them in Survivor,
Speaker 1: only only the UH the more selected team, the onliest
Speaker 1: team more selected than them with the Buffalo Bills. So
Speaker 1: a lot of people eleven point six percent of the
Speaker 1: remaining pool would have gone out and circuit and Survivor.
Speaker 1: But the Giants, they start out just where they left
Speaker 1: off the previous week, where they just were just absolutely
Speaker 1: horrible against Dallas, lost forty to nothing. Prater missed a
Speaker 1: fifty five yard goal. Fifty five yard field goal to
Speaker 1: start things for Arizona, but then a three and own
Speaker 1: for the Giants, followed by an eighty six yard touchdown
Speaker 1: drive for the Cardinals. It was seven to nothing, a
Speaker 1: Giants punt, an eighty yard drive for the Cardinals. It's
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing on a Dot twenty three yard touchdown run.
Speaker 1: We're still talking the beginning of the second quarter. Here
Speaker 1: another three and own, Parader kicks a field goal. Seventy
Speaker 1: to nothing. Arizona Giants actually got three first downs after that,
Speaker 1: but then Jones, picked by Jalen Thompson, off a deflection
Speaker 1: that led to another Parader field goal, twenty to nothing
Speaker 1: at the half. Twenty to nothing at the half. That
Speaker 1: meant that in the first six quarters of the NFL season,
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants were trailing sixty to nothing.
Speaker 1: Sixty to nothing, incredible. Arizona had fifteen first downs. The
Speaker 1: Giants had won in the first half, sixty to nothing
Speaker 1: after three halves of football. I wasn't None of us
Speaker 1: were thinking are they the worst team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We're thinking are they the worst team that's ever played
Speaker 1: an NFL game? Yep, And immediately I went to the
Speaker 1: whole thing about oh my alternate season win total underlooks quaint.
Speaker 1: Now I missed a massive opportunity, by the way, I
Speaker 1: still might have anyway. Second half it all changed. First
Speaker 1: play from scribbage third quarter Jones Jalen highlight for fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Two plays later, Jones for fourteen out, twenty to seven.
Speaker 1: Words did come back though, seventy five yard touchdown drive
Speaker 1: Dobs to mar Marquise Brown from three out. They got
Speaker 1: a two point conversion. It was twenty eight to seven Arizona,
Speaker 1: nine thirty four left in the third quarter, and then
Speaker 1: here came the Giants seventy five yards sake one in
Speaker 1: from one twenty eight to fourteen Cardinals eventually punt. Giants
Speaker 1: go down Fiel fourth and what the Arizona six? Still
Speaker 1: early third quarter Jones Toukas bushes. The other teams do it, Kelly,
Speaker 1: other teams do the tokres Bush converts. Three plays later
Speaker 1: after fall start, Jones to Barkley from nine out eylon
Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty. Now note this, Brian dabol put
Speaker 1: him in the column of coaches that went down fourteen,
Speaker 1: get to eight, go for two to try to get
Speaker 1: the six, but the Giants false start as they had
Speaker 1: to kick him. I was so confused. Ben and I
Speaker 1: were on the air during that. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, Ben, he's doing the right thing going out
Speaker 1: there to go for two. And then I looked over,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, ho was at a seven
Speaker 1: point game? What I miss? Yeah? Twenty eight twenty one,
Speaker 1: Arizona three and out. Giants go downfield, culminating at a
Speaker 1: Jones to Isaiah Hodges' eleven yard score twenty eight, twenty
Speaker 1: eight four to twenty five left. Did you believe at
Speaker 1: this point that your survivor gonna get through No, still
Speaker 1: didn't no, not at all. Cardinals three and out again.
Speaker 1: Giants start out on twenty eight, two thirty one left
Speaker 1: high game gano from thirty four good, good, twenty four
Speaker 1: unanswered points, first lead of the season with nineteen seconds left,
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty eight. It holds. Giants win their
Speaker 1: first twenty one plus point comeback since the nineteen forties matches,
Speaker 1: the biggest comeback in Giants' history, lost the previous one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty games in franchise history, went down twenty
Speaker 1: one and then they're they're at the Niners. You say, oh, boy,
Speaker 1: by the way, let me just say this. We'll get
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. There they could be two and oh
Speaker 1: they really could. Yeah, it's totally be two out And
Speaker 1: now look at their schedule.
Speaker 2: And the Giants made Josh Dobbs, at least in the
Speaker 2: first half, look like the All Star quarterback and he's
Speaker 2: been on the team for one a month like something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Barely barely Niners beat the Rams. They do so in
Speaker 1: how can I put this? Not as convincing of fashion
Speaker 1: as some might have thought. But they do ultimately get
Speaker 1: the win, but not the cover because all of these
Speaker 1: games are plinko. You know. Led this game ten to
Speaker 1: three thirteen thirty two left in the second quarter. The
Speaker 1: Rams then went sixty yards Stafford du Kyraen Williams from
Speaker 1: six out. It was tied to ten early second quarter,
Speaker 1: then a San Francisco plot, the Rams went eighty eight
Speaker 1: yards Kyen Williams in from four. The Rams led this
Speaker 1: game seventeen to ten. With one forty five left in
Speaker 1: the first half of the Niners came right downfield. They
Speaker 1: had a second in goal at the one after a
Speaker 1: PI in the end zone set them up there one
Speaker 1: second left, they eschew the field goal Kelly. They eschew
Speaker 1: it Perty in from one gutsy seventeen seventeen into the half.
Speaker 1: They eventually took a twenty seventeen lead and then got
Speaker 1: it to twenty seven to seventeen on a party to
Speaker 1: dbo eleven yard touchdown pass that was after perty went
Speaker 1: to Juwan Jennings for thirty one. Rams got a field
Speaker 1: goal cut it to twenty seven to twenty seven to
Speaker 1: thirteen left, Niners were forced to pont so The Rams
Speaker 1: had the ball with the chance to tie this, but
Speaker 1: Stafford third and five at their own twenty five, picked
Speaker 1: by diamidor Lenowar. Love that name, you name your child
Speaker 1: the Yamador, Oh yeah, diameteror bidlip. Niners set up the
Speaker 1: Rams at the fifteen yard line four forty eight left
Speaker 1: up seven. They settled for a moody twenty six yard
Speaker 1: field goal thirty to twenty San Francisco to fifty nine left.
Speaker 1: You know what that means, back door open Rams fourth
Speaker 1: and one, two twenty eight left at their own thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Williams was tripped up for a one yard loss. For
Speaker 1: all intensive purposes, the ball game was over, but a
Speaker 1: thirty eight yard Rams field goal to cut the deficit
Speaker 1: to seven at the buzzer determines yet another Plinko cover.
Speaker 1: Niners win it thirty to twenty three. Rams Ats get
Speaker 1: the money. And by the way, the reason that that's
Speaker 1: so frustrating for all Niners betters is what was Sean
Speaker 1: mcvayh doing on that last drive. Man, Either kick it
Speaker 1: early and try to get an outside kick so you
Speaker 1: leave time, or just there's only a few seconds left
Speaker 1: at that point, just go for it. What are you
Speaker 1: kicking the field goal?
Speaker 2: So, like dude Ben and I were discussing this a
Speaker 2: little bit on air. I was so confused in the
Speaker 2: moment because we're trying to figure out, okay, they you
Speaker 2: got to kick set up the on side kick, and
Speaker 2: you know by the time they go line up for that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this game's over as soon as they kick this,
Speaker 2: like the clock is gonna run. This doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: And then of course our brains start to go to like,
Speaker 2: what do the coaches know what the spread is? Do
Speaker 2: you take some kind of moral victory by covering against
Speaker 2: the Niners?
Speaker 3: If there's seven and alves out there?
Speaker 1: Right said the thousands of times on this show. We
Speaker 1: bet on this stuff, We bet on this stuff, And
Speaker 1: in yeah, I don't like, so what do you do?
Speaker 1: You treat that as you're padding stats, as like a
Speaker 1: head coach, But why are you padding stats with a
Speaker 1: kicker and not letting Stafford chuck it down field? It
Speaker 1: was very bizarre to me, Gil, very bizarre. Brent. I
Speaker 1: was honored to be on Brent Musburger Show yesterday right
Speaker 1: before football. Brent asked me who I think the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFL was, if I just had to
Speaker 1: get I said the Niners. But he said, which, you're
Speaker 1: not laying the points. I was like, no, because there's
Speaker 1: a spider sense here on this game where I think
Speaker 1: the Rams could keep it close. Rams might have might be,
Speaker 1: as we look back now, the most underrated team of
Speaker 1: the entire offseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean I think there's I think there's big time
Speaker 2: similarities with them in the Buccaneers right where you're talking
Speaker 2: about two teams that are Super Bowl champions that have
Speaker 2: had pieces stripped away and they're not quite at that level,
Speaker 2: but we we've over exact and I think they're they're
Speaker 2: full of where the teams are fully at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's Rams team.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Stafford's back to doing Detroit like Stafford things, right,
Speaker 2: He's chucking the ball around a ton, He's got these
Speaker 2: young wide receivers that are playing great.
Speaker 1: I know, good bet by you and last week, right,
Speaker 1: we can't. We'll get to that a little later. But
Speaker 1: this is this is the Giants at the Niners here.
Speaker 1: I mean with the Saquon question, I got the Niners
Speaker 1: by fourteen? Am I too high? Yeah you're a little
Speaker 1: too high. Ten and a half, ten and a half,
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, that's it. Yeah, Yeah, ten and a half.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna get rich laying ten and a half
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This tick it off ten, This was
Speaker 1: ten this morning. Ten and a half. Now, Uh, that
Speaker 1: seems low to me. But again, do I want to
Speaker 1: lay the ten and a half? I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: you you agree. The Niners are probably the best through
Speaker 1: two weeks anyway, at least two weeks minus two games tonight,
Speaker 1: which we'll touch on. Best team in the league, probably
Speaker 1: top to bottom. I think the Dallas Cowboys got so
Speaker 1: to say about it. They do, yeah, they do, And
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's really I think it's still really tough
Speaker 2: for those three NFC teams. Yeah, I think you all
Speaker 2: three of them, you want to put any of them
Speaker 2: in any order right now?
Speaker 3: They all three of those look like the best teams
Speaker 3: in the NFL too.
Speaker 1: Me. Yeah, Cowboys might have played two bottom feeders sorry Jets,
Speaker 1: sorry Giants at this point, but yeah, not not that
Speaker 1: the Niners have played a murderers row either, But certainly, Uh,
Speaker 1: when we do the power rankings, those teams are both
Speaker 1: at the top, if not one and two, I'm high
Speaker 1: on that one. That doesn't mean I want to rush
Speaker 1: to the counter to bet the Niners. We'll see if
Speaker 1: there's more value in some of these other games. We'll
Speaker 1: do them two by two. Coming up Week three in
Speaker 1: the National Football League Guessing lines, trying to extract value.
Speaker 1: Did you have that at ten and a half yourself?
Speaker 1: Did you have it lower? Did you have it as
Speaker 1: high as I did? Fourteen seems more appropriate to me?
Speaker 1: Would Chrissy have said I like your number better on
Speaker 1: that one? That was one? Probably I'm gonna say he would.
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Speaker 1: Alexander Kelly Bidlin live from bar Canada at the d
Speaker 1: guessing lines for week number three in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I went two and three ultimately in millions. You three
Speaker 1: and two, dude. You're having a great year so far.
Speaker 1: Seven o seven to three seven. It's a good start.
Speaker 1: It's a good start. Yeah. Like Matt said on Friday,
Speaker 1: it's the like you know, you're like, you're out of
Speaker 1: it already, right, See a quarter that's out of it.
Speaker 2: Let's see the next And then you're like, what do
Speaker 2: I I just got to go like eighty five percent
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year, you know, maybe that
Speaker 2: I'm in the running for somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, no problem, all right? What's first? On
Speaker 1: Sunday morning? Sunday one o'clock Eastern Titans at Browns. Titans
Speaker 1: at Browns. Okay, Brown's played tonight there at Pittsburgh. So
Speaker 1: sight unseen on the Browns, who are one and no
Speaker 1: heading into this one tennessee yesterday. Oh we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: more about the Chargers than we are the Titans. There. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Titans beat the Chargers. They beat them in overtime. Good God.
Speaker 1: Let's pick it up. Fourth and fourth at Tennessee eight.
Speaker 1: It is three to nothing Chargers. We're in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Trey Pipkins the third tackle eligible touchdown, Chargers eleven and nothing.
Speaker 1: That was on the two point conversion after Darius Davis
Speaker 1: touchdown or Darius Davis play set up a touchdown. It
Speaker 1: was eleven to nothing Chargers at that point. First play
Speaker 1: in suing drive Tannehill to Treylon Burgs for seventy What's
Speaker 1: what the Chargers defense that immediately when they had the Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a eleven and nothing. We actually have a good
Speaker 1: moment in a game. Let's mess this up immediately. We
Speaker 1: are not allowed to have two seconds of a good time.
Speaker 1: Treylon Bergs for seventy. Two plays later, Henry in from one,
Speaker 1: eleven to seven Chargers. Then a twenty seven yard field
Speaker 1: goal from Cameron Dicker fourteen to seven, the hard way,
Speaker 1: by the way that score. Then Tennessee adds a Nick
Speaker 1: Folk thirty three yard It's fourteen to ten Chargers at
Speaker 1: the half. Opening drive second half, Titans go seventy five,
Speaker 1: culminating with a Tannahill twelve yard touchdown run. The Titans
Speaker 1: take the lead for the first time seventeen to fourteen,
Speaker 1: and you're like, for those of us who have the
Speaker 1: Chargers get laying the points, really, is this really happening again?
Speaker 1: Chargers punt, Titans punt after Bosa sack Tannehill. Then the
Speaker 1: Chargers go eighty yards, bridging the third and fourth quarters
Speaker 1: Herbert Allen for twelve touchdown. Chargers regain the lead twenty
Speaker 1: one to seventeen, fourteen thirty eight left. Titans punt. Chargers punt.
Speaker 1: Titans punt after Tannehill sack for the fifth time, this
Speaker 1: one by Tui Poloto, but the Chargers eventually forced to
Speaker 1: punt with six minutes left. Kelly, and again, if you
Speaker 1: have the Chargers and you have the lead and they're
Speaker 1: forced to punt with six men that's left, your comment
Speaker 1: inevitably is or your thought in your head is they
Speaker 1: can never just do the kill shot. It is We're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna let you have every opportunity to win
Speaker 1: this game, and eventually the opponent always takes it. Tannehill
Speaker 1: to Chris Moore immediately for forty nine right off the bat.
Speaker 1: Really another one of those the very first play of
Speaker 1: the drive. Six plays later, Tannehill to West book a
Speaker 1: Kine for four out and the Titans lead twenty four
Speaker 1: to twenty one to twenty two left, but the Chargers
Speaker 1: have all three timeouts on the two minute warning, Chargers
Speaker 1: get all the way to first and tend the Tennessee
Speaker 1: fourteen with fifty one seconds left. What are you thinking there?
Speaker 1: If you have the Chargers, You're like, oh, could they
Speaker 1: possibly score a touchdown and win this? In regulation? Of course?
Speaker 1: Of course, they end up with a Dicker thirty three
Speaker 1: yard field goal twenty four to twenty four, forcing overtime.
Speaker 1: Chargers win the coin flip in overtime, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's another of course they're gonna go downfield and score
Speaker 1: a touchdown, right, No, because of the Chargers. Are they
Speaker 1: gonna go downfield and kick a field goal to force
Speaker 1: the other team's hand at least no. Three and out.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what happens in last week, albeit in regulation
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins. All of a sudden, the Dolphins defense
Speaker 1: showed up at the end. Titans forced the three and
Speaker 1: oun Titans come down full forty one yard field goal
Speaker 1: ballgame Tennessee twenty seven, charges twenty four, same all Chargers.
Speaker 1: Sam is Brandon Staley on the proverbial hot seat, is
Speaker 1: hell on the hottest seat of absolutely the hottest of them.
Speaker 3: All in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely no in life. Yeah yeah, like right now
Speaker 1: of all the teams. Yes, this guy, and I think
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, things keep going this way. See
Speaker 1: you you're in season out here it is. I was
Speaker 1: listening to Adam Tronoff's pod today. I think he described
Speaker 1: this very well. You always talk about Brandon Staley being
Speaker 1: a defensive guy. Yes, brought in for this reason, designed
Speaker 1: this defense to be a bend, but don't break. Defense
Speaker 1: has played and you've got Ryan Tannehill making big.
Speaker 2: Play after big play over top. You can't happen with
Speaker 2: how you've designed this defense. And real quick, just real
Speaker 2: quick on this game. Look, I trash Ryan Tannehill all
Speaker 2: the time. I am his biggest critic about once a year,
Speaker 2: I feel like I gotta say Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 1: Looked like a real NFL quarterback in this game.
Speaker 2: Twenty for twenty, you know, twenty for twenty four touchdown
Speaker 2: two forty six. Guy made big play after big play
Speaker 2: when it mattered. Bravo to him.
Speaker 1: And you know what, me and you were probably pretty
Speaker 1: you know, pretty dismissive.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about it. With Austin Ecklers bring
Speaker 1: out for this game. How big of a difference.
Speaker 3: Would it make?
Speaker 1: That didn't bother me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it didn't bother me going into the game.
Speaker 2: You look back afterward, though, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: of a difference they had.
Speaker 1: Every opportunity they had, every opt they had, every opportunity.
Speaker 1: By the way, this has nothing to do with the Charges.
Speaker 1: What was the game Tennessee at Cleveland? You said, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, this just hard not to talk about the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I put Cleveland in no man's land against sight unseen.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him tonight, I said minus five and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, that is four and a half over
Speaker 2: at Draft Kings. But you're seeing it, seeing it right
Speaker 2: in that dead number. Well, we'll see what happens to
Speaker 2: the four and a half, pretty much like Squeeze in
Speaker 2: one Falcons at Lions Sunday one the two and oh
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons YEP at the one and one Detroit Lions
Speaker 2: Atlanta uh in this I don't know. This was the
Speaker 2: one game of the eight you know how there is
Speaker 2: eight in the morning and you're like, Okay, one of
Speaker 2: these games, inevitably, I'm not gonna be able to pay
Speaker 2: attention to as much as the rest of them.
Speaker 1: This might have been it. But it was twenty four
Speaker 1: to twelve Packers, fifty six seconds left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: after green Bay went sixty five yards loved to Jalen
Speaker 1: Reid for ten, and you're like, all right, green Bay
Speaker 1: is gonna be two and zero. How about that after
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, But nope, Atlanta drives seventy five yards ridder
Speaker 1: in from six twenty four to nineteen green Bay eleven
Speaker 1: forty eight left green Bay three and out. Atlanta gets
Speaker 1: a coup thirty nine yarder twenty four to twenty two.
Speaker 1: That's a young, hey, coup thirty nine yarders? Who am
Speaker 1: referring to? Twenty four to twenty two green Bay eight
Speaker 1: ten left Packers guys wide open for touchdown. Love doesn't
Speaker 1: see him. Falcons dropping pick sixes. I mean, it's all plinko.
Speaker 1: Green Bay three and out again again when green Bay
Speaker 1: wasn't scoring they were completely inept. They had one first
Speaker 1: down the entire game on non scoring drives. Atlanta starts
Speaker 1: at their own twenty seven Ridder for twenty four to
Speaker 1: Matt Collins for seven to Bjeon of ten fourth and
Speaker 1: one at the green Bay twenty three. Keep in mind
Speaker 1: again they're down two points, fourth and one at the
Speaker 1: green Bay twenty three, two oh seven left. You kick
Speaker 1: a field goal, you take the lead. Falcons go for
Speaker 1: it Bijon for seven. They have to settle for a
Speaker 1: cowp twenty five yard or twenty five twenty four Atlanta
Speaker 1: fifty seven seconds left, but a four and out for
Speaker 1: Green Bay ballgame. Atlanta wins twenty five twenty four. They're
Speaker 1: two to zero. Ridder nineteen of thirty two for two
Speaker 1: thirty seven, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked once
Speaker 1: Bijon Robinson. That is nineteen for one to twenty four
Speaker 1: on the ground, four catches for forty eight yards. They
Speaker 1: held a green Bay to two hundred and twenty four
Speaker 1: yards four forty six to two twenty four total yards advantage.
Speaker 1: And then Detroit this is when I got right yesterday
Speaker 1: on Seattle, Detroit halftime score was fourteen to seven Lions.
Speaker 1: Goff was twelve to fifteen for one to eighty at
Speaker 1: the half, two touchdowns, no picks, He was not sacked.
Speaker 1: Gino was sixteen of twenty for one fifty nine, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks and no sacks of the half. But first
Speaker 1: play of the second half David Montgomery hit by Uchenna Nuosu.
Speaker 1: He fought were covered by Jaron Reid ball at the
Speaker 1: Detroit twenty three. Two plays later Walker Kenneth Walker the
Speaker 1: third that is in from three, fourteen to fourteen. Less
Speaker 1: than a minute in Lions go downfield fourth and three
Speaker 1: at the Seattle eleven golf to aman Ros saying Brown
Speaker 1: for five. Three plays later, Montgomery in from four Detroit
Speaker 1: regains the lead twenty one to fourteen, nine oh five
Speaker 1: left third quarter. This is like the last Detroit Seattle
Speaker 1: game too. It was like this back and forth. Seattle
Speaker 1: gets a Mayer twenty five yard field goal, spurred on
Speaker 1: by a fourth and one conversion at their own forty one,
Speaker 1: Walker in from three yards out, twenty one to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Detroit leading this leading this game at this point, and
Speaker 1: let's see a fourth and one conversion at their own
Speaker 1: forty one Walker for three yards, spurred on to get
Speaker 1: that Meyers field goal twenty one to seventeen Detroit. Then
Speaker 1: the Lions fourth and two at their own forty five
Speaker 1: thirty two seconds left in the third quarter, Golf under
Speaker 1: pressure incomplete intended for Josh Reynolds again the Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: I go for fourth down every time, no matter the situation,
Speaker 1: no matter where I am. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Seahawks takeover plus territory. They overcome a horrible grounding penalty
Speaker 1: called on Gino that was clearly a miscommunication. They're just
Speaker 1: throwing grounding flags. Smith to lock it from three out.
Speaker 1: Seattle takes the lead twenty four to twenty one, ten
Speaker 1: thirty eight left, then second and fifteen at their own
Speaker 1: thirty five eight fourteen left. Golf picked by Drey Brown
Speaker 1: to the house forty yards. Seattle leads by ten with
Speaker 1: eight h four left. That was the three hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty fourth pass from Golf that broke his streak of
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty three consecutive without a pick, and
Speaker 1: that one was a pick six. The record was four
Speaker 1: h two. It was eighteen excuse he was nineteen shy.
Speaker 3: That was the one.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we were trying to figure out live on
Speaker 2: air when he threw the pick. I'm like, did he
Speaker 2: get to that record? Because I know he's on record.
Speaker 1: He did not. Lions, though, down ten, they go seventy
Speaker 1: five yards in five minutes and one second, Golf to
Speaker 1: Reynolds from four out. They're down three thirty one to
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Then a Seattle three and out which Gino
Speaker 1: inexplicably ran around and took a seventeen yard sack rather
Speaker 1: than throwing the ball away, Like, what are you doing, Gino?
Speaker 1: Throw it? How long have you been in this league?
Speaker 1: One forty four left? Otherwise he was great. Lions started
Speaker 1: the fifty after Khalif Raymond sixteen yard put return, Lion's
Speaker 1: getting a field goal range thirty eight yarded by Riley
Speaker 1: Patterson right down the pupe to overtime. We go thirty
Speaker 1: one to thirty one, and unlike with the Chargers, the
Speaker 1: Seahawks win the coin flip. They matriculate the ball down
Speaker 1: the field, including a big third and sixteen version at
Speaker 1: their own forty six. Geno to DK for sixteen. Five
Speaker 1: plays later, Geno to lock it from six out pylon
Speaker 1: walk off touchdown. Aiden Hutchinson held by Kurrn badly no call.
Speaker 1: Seattle wins thirty seven to thirty one in overtime. Lions
Speaker 1: never see the ball. I will say Detroit by a
Speaker 1: full touchdown though who by seven at home?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Sniffed one out here.
Speaker 1: Lions four at DraftKings A couple four and a half's
Speaker 1: out there, but it is four to four and a half.
Speaker 1: That's a bet on the Lions. It's a bet on
Speaker 1: the Lions. I don't care that atlant Us too and
Speaker 1: zero that's low. That's low. By the way, bookmark that
Speaker 1: non call on Aiden Hutchinson. Are holding Aiden Hutchinson because
Speaker 1: non calls happen to determine another one? Perhaps coming up
Speaker 1: skill Alexander Kelly Bidlin we get tweets at beating the book.
Speaker 1: This is from Let's start with Chris Hitchcock, a lifelong
Speaker 1: Broncos fan slash season ticket holder. I too, wake up
Speaker 1: most Monday mornings and proclaim, quote those bastards I called
Speaker 1: the Barcos bastards earlier I think I did. Let's see
Speaker 1: Kevin at Clone Bone. After Mike and Mike's Sports talk
Speaker 1: on ESPN got canceled, I thought I'd never find a replacement.
Speaker 1: After years of looking you two have filled that void.
Speaker 1: Amazing show. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Kevin clone Bone. We appreciate that. That's quite a compliment.
Speaker 1: Charles and Connecticut and hoop Homer. Just one out of
Speaker 1: eight games you weren't able to pay attention to Gill.
Speaker 1: That's why you're a pro and I'm an amateur. I
Speaker 1: bowed down to you, miss d Alex saying, oh no,
Speaker 1: it's it's uh trust me copious notes while it's happening.
Speaker 1: Ryan Hyatt listening to Gil recap Sunday games with Kelly
Speaker 1: with the music in the background is oddly reminiscent of
Speaker 1: Howard Goseld doing halftime highlights on Monday Night football back
Speaker 1: in the day. More rolling stones, please, we were wondering,
Speaker 1: We were wondering if you all could still hear that
Speaker 1: mile high David Lyons minus four widely available. Listen. I'll
Speaker 1: say this again, like, this is what I was saying
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks spread last week and why part of
Speaker 1: the reason why I took the Seahawks is the Seahawks
Speaker 1: get crushed by the Rams. Anecdotally, we knew so many
Speaker 1: people who loved the Seahawks in the offseason and then
Speaker 1: one week goes by, they have one bad game and
Speaker 1: the market completely flips on them. It's like, did y'all
Speaker 1: one game is all it takes for you to have
Speaker 1: your memory erased? This Lions thing with the Falcons? How
Speaker 1: many people love the Lions in the off season. They
Speaker 1: lose one football game and they're only four point favorites
Speaker 1: of the Falcons.
Speaker 2: Come, yeah, no, I get it, and it's I don't know,
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten there yet on that one. I'm definitely
Speaker 2: leaning that way though. On that game will probably end
Speaker 2: up as a contest. Play good on you to stay
Speaker 2: on Seattle. I couldn't get there just because of the
Speaker 2: two tackles being out, But man, that was definitely the
Speaker 2: right call in that game.
Speaker 1: Looking for a bounce back from them. Let's continue Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: see if we can find some value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday, one o'clock Eastern time, Saints at Packers.
Speaker 1: Saints have not played. They play the Panthers tonight, of course,
Speaker 1: Monday night doubleheader, a stagger doubleheader where the second game
Speaker 1: kicks off an hour after the first. Do we like that,
Speaker 1: by the way, or did you prefer it when it
Speaker 1: was full game over, next game, like you do. I
Speaker 1: like the stagger uh and Green Bay Green Bay, as
Speaker 1: we already talked about, Green Bay loses to the Atlanta Falcons. Uh.
Speaker 1: So I'll just guess this real quick. I was very
Speaker 1: lazy here. By the way, Jordan love and defeed fourteen
Speaker 1: of twenty five for one fifty one, three touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sack ones. They were held to two hundred
Speaker 1: twenty four yards by Atlanta, outgained four forty six to
Speaker 1: two twenty four and a thirty six fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: three forty five disadvantage in time of possession New Orleans
Speaker 1: sight on the sceen. I'll just say pick them here.
Speaker 1: It was kind of lazy about this. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to make this at this point.
Speaker 3: Well, right now it is off the board.
Speaker 1: Sooks good, that's good. Good. You didn't really have much Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: wasted your time on that one. What's next?
Speaker 3: That one? Actually?
Speaker 1: Hold on, there are some lines up packers one and
Speaker 1: a half to two and a half is what's up
Speaker 1: right now? I mean that'll that could change with tonight's Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was off the board earlier this morning. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: up next Broncos at Dolphins o'clock Easter k the O
Speaker 1: and two Broncos at the two and O Dolphins the
Speaker 1: Dolphins two and oh. Both games on the road to
Speaker 1: start their season. So good on the Dolphins. Broncos. First
Speaker 1: of all, good Lord again. Two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: I have squandered a survivor entry, one survivor entry a
Speaker 1: week now on the Denver Broncos. Never again, Never again.
Speaker 1: Broncos first drive, Joey Slive missed a forty nine yard
Speaker 1: field goal for Washington that Matt Brown might have been
Speaker 1: closer on. Quite Frankly, Joey Slide had two field goals
Speaker 1: yesterday where I'm like, oh my god, what's happening. Someone
Speaker 1: blamed it on the snap. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was it. Broncos easy PC sixty one
Speaker 1: yard drive. Julian McLaughlin in from seven from five seven
Speaker 1: to nothing. Broncos sly makes a field goal seven to
Speaker 1: three twenty four seconds left in the first quarter. First play,
Speaker 1: next drive, Wilson and Marvin Mims Junior for sixty fourteen
Speaker 1: to three Broncos twelve seconds left in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: Skins three and out. Wilson and Mims for another fifty
Speaker 1: four fourth and two conversion. At the Washington twenty two
Speaker 1: Wilson to Brandon Johnson sixteen yard touchdown, twenty one to
Speaker 1: three Broncos, nine oh one left second quarter, and those
Speaker 1: of us who had the Broncos not only against the
Speaker 1: spread but also in the survivor, we're like, we're so smart,
Speaker 1: We're such such smart people. God, I wish everyone was
Speaker 1: as smart as I. Nope, Washington three and out. Now
Speaker 1: here's the real inflection point of this game. Mims gets
Speaker 1: a Mims junior who already had a you know, had
Speaker 1: a sixty yard reception and a fifty four yard reception
Speaker 1: at this point in the game, then returns upon forty
Speaker 1: five yards. They're up twenty one to three the Broncos,
Speaker 1: but second and fifteen at the Washington forty five Wilson
Speaker 1: sacked by Jamon Davis. He fumbles and Cody Barton recovers,
Speaker 1: and the game was never the same from this point forward.
Speaker 1: Skins go forty nine yards. Pardon me, the Commanders go
Speaker 1: forty nine yards, culminating in the Howl the Logan Thomas
Speaker 1: four yard touchdown pass on fourth and goal, where by
Speaker 1: the way, he got just absolutely destroyed by Kareem Jackson,
Speaker 1: and Kareem Jackson should be suspended. Twenty one to eleven
Speaker 1: Denver after the two point conversion was good on review.
Speaker 1: A Robinson run Bryan Robinson run one forty seven left
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, Broncos three and out. Howell gets
Speaker 1: him in field goal range, debates for thirty five the
Speaker 1: big one live forty nine yardfield goal and at halftime
Speaker 1: Washington only trailed by seven. After trailing by eighteen third quarter,
Speaker 1: Broncos three and out commodes go fifty eight. Howell do
Speaker 1: the incomparable Terry McLaurin, not double team, triple team, you
Speaker 1: can't stop him twenty one, twenty one. Then Wilson third
Speaker 1: and tenth at Denver thirty six. Picked by Emmanuel Forbes,
Speaker 1: who was drafted by Washington because he was able to
Speaker 1: get so many turnovers at Mississippi State. By the way,
Speaker 1: it was a little controversial, though, did you see that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he picked that off? No, I
Speaker 1: didn't see that play, and it survived review like he
Speaker 1: caught it and then the ball was kind of on
Speaker 1: the ground without him really finishing it. Anyway, it went
Speaker 1: Washington's way as everything in this game would, as we'll
Speaker 1: get to skin excuse me. Washington at the Denver forty
Speaker 1: six ten twenty five left third quarter short field to
Speaker 1: take a lead after being down eighteen third and fourth
Speaker 1: of Denver twenty five howls strip sacked by Jonathan Cooper.
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiley recovers, though, and so Washington decides we're gonna
Speaker 1: kick a fifty nine yard field goal ty gain Joey
Speaker 1: Slide misses seven thirty two left and third Courdon. The
Speaker 1: Broncos actually go up again twenty four to twenty one
Speaker 1: with two eleven left in the third quarter on a
Speaker 1: Will Lutz field goal, but then Washington seventy five yards
Speaker 1: Robinson a twenty seven yard run in the howl to
Speaker 1: gibbson thirty six yard yacker that go a long way
Speaker 1: towards setting up a Robinson two yard touchdown run, and
Speaker 1: Washington takes the lead. They would never relinquish it at
Speaker 1: this boy twenty eight twenty four, still thirteen to twenty
Speaker 1: five left, but the Broncos three and out again. Washington
Speaker 1: goes sixty nine yards Robinson in from fifteen thirty five
Speaker 1: twenty four Washington seven eleven left Broncos matriculate, can't punch
Speaker 1: it in, because of course they can't. They're the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They have to settle for a Lutz field goal thirty
Speaker 1: five to twenty seven. Washington does punt, but the Broncos
Speaker 1: start down eight forty eight seconds left on the clock
Speaker 1: at their own eighteen. And by the way, then a
Speaker 1: false start puts them back at the thirteen and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: they're not going eighty seven yards. How do you lose
Speaker 1: a game by eight when you're winning by eighteen? Well,
Speaker 1: guess what. They don't end up losing by eight. Midfield,
Speaker 1: three seconds left, hail bounce, bounce, Wilson to Brandon Johnson
Speaker 1: off two deflections, touchdown. What is happening? Thirty five thirty
Speaker 1: three two point conversion away from setting it to overtime.
Speaker 1: And on the two point conversion, Benjamin Saint just absolutely
Speaker 1: rips the shoulder back of Courtland Sutton. No flag? How
Speaker 1: is there no flag there? The Washington commodes never get
Speaker 1: calls or non calls like that.
Speaker 2: I was sitting here after the show yesterday watching that,
Speaker 2: and me and Ben were both like, well, how is
Speaker 2: that not a pass interference?
Speaker 1: They throw a flag on that every every night. God,
Speaker 1: yesterday they wanted to go home. Washington thirty five, Broncos
Speaker 1: thirty three, and Washington is two and zero. The Broncos
Speaker 1: are zero and too. How do you like that, Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: with all your name Nathaniel Hackett eight and all your
Speaker 1: russ inkate and all your just general arrogance. I like
Speaker 1: that he I liked that he would did you catch
Speaker 1: all the designed runs for us yesterday? I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this really feels like cham Paygne is just going out
Speaker 1: of his way to plaish this guy. By the way,
Speaker 1: he didn't even talk about Miami. Miami beats New England.
Speaker 1: That game was kind of ho hum. Last night Miami
Speaker 1: was up seventeen to three, and then, much like the
Speaker 1: first week where the Patriots tried feverishly to get back
Speaker 1: in the game against the Eagles that had every kind
Speaker 1: of opportunity, they got it to seventeen ten. Yesterday, excuse me,
Speaker 1: they got it to it was twenty four to ten Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They got it to twenty four to seventeen, I should say,
Speaker 1: and then fourth and fourth in Miami thirty three a
Speaker 1: minute left. Gasicki gets the pass from Mac Jones he
Speaker 1: stops short of the sticks, very very present of mind.
Speaker 1: He then pitches it back as Justin Bethel stops in
Speaker 1: short of the sticks. He pitches it back to Cole Strange,
Speaker 1: who tries to power his way to the sticks, but
Speaker 1: he is ruled shy ballgame. Dolphins win at twenty four
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Dolphins two and zero Patriots zero in two
Speaker 1: road wins for the Dolphins. I actually that ended was incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean Kaziki to have the the steeds, the presence
Speaker 2: of mind to bake that pitch, and then the offensive
Speaker 2: libeyan who you know, I don't I don't remember who
Speaker 2: the Dolphins defender was, but this is such a it's
Speaker 2: such a reaction by offensive players when someone goes to
Speaker 2: rip the ball out just to go on the ground
Speaker 2: and watching.
Speaker 1: The reeds kind of a reflect. That's what happened. Like
Speaker 1: he had it, he had it, and the Dolphins defender
Speaker 1: goes into rip it out and he just dives down
Speaker 1: Dolphins by seven and a half at home against Denver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my one and only bed so far, six
Speaker 1: and a half on the Dolphins, the seven low the seven.
Speaker 1: I like Detroit, I like Miami and it's been on
Speaker 1: the move. This opened most places seven it's.
Speaker 3: Six and a half.
Speaker 1: Like everyone, I don't like Broncos are taking money this morning.
Speaker 1: I don't understand anything. I like two already I liked,
Speaker 1: I like Detroit, I like the Dolphins. Goodness more value.
Speaker 1: Guessing lines continues next numbers game Visa the Sports Betting
Speaker 1: Network Skill Alexander. It's Kelly Bidlin Live and Bar Canada
Speaker 1: at the d table height. Uh you find Kelly that
Speaker 1: I'm hunched over because of the height of the table here.
Speaker 1: It's either like this the whole show or you do
Speaker 1: the comfy You got comfortable chairs that looks really good. Well,
Speaker 1: I hit that profile shot there. You forget you're even
Speaker 1: doing a show where you're like, oh, sorry, I forgot
Speaker 1: I was on it. We were just talking off air
Speaker 1: because I mentioned this to Brent yesterday when I was
Speaker 1: on with him, which is, you know, okay, take all
Speaker 1: the colv that that I get in tennis, right for good,
Speaker 1: for good or bad. The NFL, like, just take this
Speaker 1: last week, So Chris Jones signs with the Chiefs, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm buying a two and a half real quick, because
Speaker 1: I know this is going to shoot it. It was
Speaker 1: three yesterday, right, the Chargers. I got minus three earlier
Speaker 1: the week. I'm like, oh my god, I'm getting this
Speaker 1: real quick. He even got the minus two and a
Speaker 1: half like most of the week. So all this all
Speaker 1: this thought, I'm like, so today I'm like, Detroit minus four,
Speaker 1: Miami minus six and a half. What I got a
Speaker 1: rush and bet those Well, let's see what they are
Speaker 1: at the end. I mean, I bet I bet Dolphins
Speaker 1: at six and a half. But yes, to your point
Speaker 1: of I was loaded up so heavy on Bill's Niners
Speaker 1: teasers yesterday, but like I hit those as soon as
Speaker 1: they got into teaser range, and they what did they
Speaker 1: close it? Like seven to seven and a half those
Speaker 1: games probably like they keep all the way down CLV
Speaker 1: in our thing in the NFL. Not far Yeah, not
Speaker 1: at all all right, cruised in the afternoon. I'm more
Speaker 1: interested in the total than the spread in this game.
Speaker 1: But Sunday one Eastern Chargers at Vikings two zero to
Speaker 1: two teams Chargers who have lost the Dolphins and the Titans,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings who have lost to the Buccaneers and
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Vikings will have extra rest here coming off
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game. We already talked about the Chargers
Speaker 1: at nauseum. Herbert twenty seven and forty one for three,
Speaker 1: Zho five two touchdowns, no picks, He was sacked three times,
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen eight for one eleven and two touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers lost to the Titans in overtime, where again,
Speaker 1: as we documented, the Chargers had every chance to win
Speaker 1: this football game, but they can't do it. They cannot
Speaker 1: do it. We talked last week about a couple teams
Speaker 1: having on brand victories or on brand losses, So Chargers,
Speaker 1: this was such an on brand loss for them, right.
Speaker 1: It just keeps happening the same way, And Gil, do
Speaker 1: I feel like a moron for making it yesterday? I
Speaker 1: thought you're gonna say, laying three it was my turn.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm moron already. The teams that
Speaker 1: have made me feel like the biggest moron thus far
Speaker 1: this year the Chargers in the Broncos period just and
Speaker 1: I didn't even think the Broncs would be that good,
Speaker 1: but I thought they could beat those two teams anyway.
Speaker 1: Chargers at Vikings the Vikings again, they were eleven to
Speaker 1: zero and one score games last year they're zero to
Speaker 1: two out of the shoot this year, I'll see I'm
Speaker 1: gonna after all that, I'm gonna say, is it Chargers
Speaker 1: minus three again, isn't it? I love that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be putting the spot here. Chargers won at DraftKings at
Speaker 1: his pick the most places. Okay, so I'm high go
Speaker 1: back different. You're not going you're not going to all
Speaker 1: let me Charger. If I'll tell you this, if I
Speaker 1: make a bet on this game, a pre flop bet
Speaker 1: on this game, you have permission to slap me in
Speaker 1: the neck. I just want in the middle of the show,
Speaker 1: you walk over. If I say anything that suggests that,
Speaker 1: come over and just slap me in the neck. You
Speaker 1: always talk, You always talk about plintgo in the NFL.
Speaker 2: If I could bet the most plinko ish game that
Speaker 2: we see all year, I would put money on this game.
Speaker 1: What about the total? Because we we got we got
Speaker 1: the total opened at like forty nine and.
Speaker 2: A half, right, Sky almost betted. I was trying to
Speaker 2: bet it when we were talking Friday, the look ahead
Speaker 2: was at fifty and yeah, it's fifty one and a half,
Speaker 2: fifty two or places.
Speaker 1: Everywhere people were talking about that so that one seeped
Speaker 1: into I just don't know. The thing is how much?
Speaker 1: How much higher can you make it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you can make it pretty high? Like you think,
Speaker 1: where do you think closes at fifty four? Maybe? Like
Speaker 1: it's only gonna take over Buddy, who's betting under on
Speaker 1: this game? Nobody? Nobody? Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, Sunday one Eastern Patriots at the Jets.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we didn't give the Patriots Dolphins game
Speaker 1: much much top Besides that last seak went on like
Speaker 1: a sicky pitch. There's a couple other noteworthy things about
Speaker 1: that Patriots lost yesterday. One did you see the play,
Speaker 1: the blocked field goal play where Belichick had Brendan Schooler
Speaker 1: run in from the side of the field like he
Speaker 1: was in like a defensive player in motion, and you
Speaker 1: can't account for him, and he blocks the kicking easily
Speaker 1: times it perfectly bugs it by the way he the
Speaker 1: second time Sanders missed a kick, you wondered if it
Speaker 1: was in his head. Yeah. I thought the broadcast did
Speaker 1: a great job of bringing that up. They did, But
Speaker 1: isn't the counter to that, Well, we'll just then fake
Speaker 1: the field goal and throw to where he was. I mean,
Speaker 1: that would be the counter, right, But then the time
Speaker 1: they were kicking a field goal, like they had to
Speaker 1: be kicking a field goal. Well, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: was awesome. And the other thing that happened in that
Speaker 1: game was because we talked earlier about how, you know,
Speaker 1: chalk up Brian Dable as a guy who went down
Speaker 1: fourteen and they score a touchdown. This guy that goes
Speaker 1: from fourteen to eight to six, even though the fallse
Speaker 1: star prevented them from doing so and they had to
Speaker 1: kick the extra point. Bill Belichick, if your question was
Speaker 1: By the way, the reason this comes up is because
Speaker 1: on the first megapod that we did with Steve Feszick
Speaker 1: Psik and Wishnever, we're saying, oh, eighty percent of the
Speaker 1: teams know to do this, and me and Will were
Speaker 1: both like, what are you guys talking about eighty percent?
Speaker 1: It's not even fifty. Well we were generous and said fifty,
Speaker 1: but it's not even fifty. Belichick has no interest in
Speaker 1: going from fourteen to eight to six because he just
Speaker 1: kicked the extra point. By the way, Chris Felika chimes
Speaker 1: in on this, he said, and he starts out with
Speaker 1: a Kelly Bidlin comment, he goes, I'm sorry, that's his
Speaker 1: first word. FeliCa says, I'll never be on board going
Speaker 1: for two down fourteen. If you missed the first one,
Speaker 1: you have to make the second one to die. To
Speaker 1: have to answer to that is a lot and I
Speaker 1: can't be It can't be explained, he says, by showing
Speaker 1: a math chart. Well, I would tell him it can
Speaker 1: be explained by mat chart, but he says, sometimes you
Speaker 1: just have to use common sense. And I'm far from
Speaker 1: this a this is the way it's always been done. Guy.
Speaker 1: You just can't bring losing into the equation. That's his
Speaker 1: thought on that New England's at the Jets. The Jets
Speaker 1: lose after their win overcoming the Aaron Rodgers torn Achilles
Speaker 1: in Week one against the Bills. The Jets do lose
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, and they lose. Well, I know one
Speaker 1: point would have convinced me, but they lose in convincing fashion.
Speaker 1: Opening drive of the game, Dallas went seventy five yards
Speaker 1: against that vaunted Jets defense in twelve plays, Prescott to
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson seven to nothing Dallas. It was a quick
Speaker 1: three and out for the Jets when Parsons sacked Wilson
Speaker 1: and it was basically, there's no need to go through
Speaker 1: this blow by blow, but basically the only moment the
Speaker 1: Jets had in this game. It was ten to nothing
Speaker 1: Dallas Wilson. At this point, Zach Wilson was one of
Speaker 1: four for four yards, but then he goes sixty eight
Speaker 1: to Garrett Wilson, most of it yack to the house.
Speaker 1: Ten to seven Dallas, and with seven twelve left in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, you were like, could this be a
Speaker 1: game changer? No, not even close. Dallas just destroyed them
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. By the way, Sauce completely
Speaker 1: blew a pick six opportunity at that point too, because
Speaker 1: ye at that moment you're like, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: Jets could have had the lead. This is in midway
Speaker 1: through the second quarter. But Dallas ultimately gets it done.
Speaker 1: On that drive. They make him pay deck to a
Speaker 1: Luke schoon Maker from one out. There was a roughing
Speaker 1: the passing penalty earlier on that drive. There was a
Speaker 1: PI on that drive after Sauce didn't get the pick six.
Speaker 1: There was a roughing the passer penalty on the touchdown
Speaker 1: too that gave Dallas the ball to one, so then
Speaker 1: they appropriately went for two. That made the game eighteen
Speaker 1: to seven, and after it was eighteen to ten, it
Speaker 1: just became a field goal fest the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Twenty one, ten, twenty four to ten, twenty seven to ten,
Speaker 1: thirty to ten. Dallas could have named their score. Wilson
Speaker 1: threw pick after pick down the stretch, Malie Hooker, tray
Speaker 1: Von Diggs. You know, it was just one after the other.
Speaker 1: He ends up. Zach Wilson does twelve of twenty seven
Speaker 1: for one seventy one touchdown, three picks. He was sacked
Speaker 1: three times. He was the Jets leading rusher five for
Speaker 1: thirty six, so there was no rushing game for the
Speaker 1: Jets either. Remember Dalvin Cook got stripped by Parsons at
Speaker 1: one point in the game. Also four touches for Breeze Hall.
Speaker 1: He's complaining that postgame. Let the beginning. Let the complaining
Speaker 1: be like, this is gonna spiral quick.
Speaker 2: I mean, you had Garrett Wilson doing the whole wide receiver,
Speaker 2: getting Zach Wilson's face on the side. You got Breezehall
Speaker 2: complaining after the game. What did you guys expect?
Speaker 1: What do you expect? I mean, Twine They got twelve
Speaker 1: first downs the whole game in two hundred and fifteen
Speaker 1: total yards. They were minus four in turnovers. We just
Speaker 1: talked about three of them. So it's like, h and
Speaker 1: by the way, the time of possession forty two fifteen
Speaker 1: to seventeen forty five. I mean, unless you're scoring eighty
Speaker 1: r touchdowns our first down, you're not winning games doing that.
Speaker 1: What was this again, New England at the Jets. I'll
Speaker 1: say New England minus three on the road, New England
Speaker 1: two minus two. Didn't get the full full three.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, minus two.
Speaker 1: Anywhere between one and a half and two and a
Speaker 1: half you can find in the market right now. The
Speaker 1: interesting thing about this game is when we talked about
Speaker 1: the Jets gauntlet of a first six game stretch, this
Speaker 1: was the game that, at least on paper, would appear
Speaker 1: to have been the easiest. Yeah, the home game against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Now, when before Aaron Rodgers injury, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: if you gave the Jets a three and three truth serum,
Speaker 1: they would take it immediately when he got hurt, I said, okay, now,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, would you take the two and four even
Speaker 1: after having one game one? Would you take the two
Speaker 1: and four. The answer to the Jets probably would have
Speaker 1: been or should have been, yes, the second win is
Speaker 1: this one. Like you, this is almost I hate to
Speaker 1: say it again. We said about the the we said
Speaker 1: about Washington against it Arizona, and week one we said
Speaker 1: about the Giants yesterday must win situations. Those two teams
Speaker 1: ultimately came through this based on schedule. Feels like that
Speaker 1: for the Jets. You don't win this game, it could
Speaker 1: spiral real quick into a one in five.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I like, what do you do
Speaker 1: at cornback?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And you really must win.
Speaker 2: If Aaron Rodgers is just throwing out this stuff about
Speaker 2: trying to come back this season.
Speaker 1: It's okay. By the way, he's not coming back this year.
Speaker 1: First of all, they have to make the playoffs. Two,
Speaker 1: you're forty years old. You're gonna be three months shive
Speaker 1: of your forty first birthday. What's the record for coming
Speaker 1: back from Achilles? Cam cam Akers came back in five months.
Speaker 1: He's in his early twenties. Healthy scratch Yesterday to stop it.
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Speaker 3: I believe to private collect.
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Speaker 1: read some tweets here in the middle of guessing lines.
Speaker 1: This is and always appreciate all these. Joe Niagro as
Speaker 1: the Giants were lining up for what the announcer called
Speaker 1: the tushbush. I imagine Gilly yelling it's a tuhus push.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, I did. Why can't they get it right?
Speaker 1: I don't understand Titans insider silences everything from the Chargers
Speaker 1: fan club hashtag Titan up. He said, uh, Los Vegas
Speaker 1: five one four yo, Hail Mary, catch equals the Curse
Speaker 1: of Snyder. Two point conversion or two point conversation equals
Speaker 1: russ can't cook anymore. I'll take the win, Go Commodores,
Speaker 1: h Ringo Week eighteen Broncos Raiders and never again is
Speaker 1: out the door? Trust the glove said never again? Did
Speaker 1: I say never again that I wouldn't be oh because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet the Broncos. I meant I wouldn't take
Speaker 1: them ever in Survivor again. I'm never touching them again.
Speaker 1: I must have said it. I don't even know half
Speaker 1: the time what I'm saying, but good on Mondays were
Speaker 1: obviously very reactionary to our bets yesterday, but I love
Speaker 1: that you guys remember what I say in the reactor,
Speaker 1: Martl martl J.
Speaker 3: Good on Martl J.
Speaker 1: He takes this very well, he says out in week
Speaker 1: two with the Packers Survivor pick he had. The Packers
Speaker 1: tried to get too frisky early on caution others to
Speaker 1: wait until injury reports developing lines moved by Friday. I
Speaker 1: didn't love my pick, but it was in best contest ever.
Speaker 1: I'll be back to Vegas in August next year. Good
Speaker 1: for Martl that is, he took it well. That's incredibly
Speaker 1: incredible attitude to have about it. Very very great.
Speaker 2: And and look, I think after every every contest or
Speaker 2: every betting season, you should always reflect on what went well,
Speaker 2: what you did wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that in twenty four hours, so good
Speaker 1: on him all. In two one six, he says, I
Speaker 1: had both of my only two Circus survivors on Denver.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, sick to my stomach on that. But
Speaker 1: at least I don't have to worry about suffering the
Speaker 1: pain of a bad beat like that in week fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen. Tell me about it. I've been there, Jesse Wilch, Hey,
Speaker 1: Gil honestly think the Washington Fish Taco holder should just
Speaker 1: change their name permanently to Skins. Excuse me Washington. Uh yeah, Gil,
Speaker 1: I resemble that remark. I was at Javier's at Aria
Speaker 1: last week. I had tacos. Taco holder came out. I
Speaker 1: can't see a tacoholder anymore without immediately football, just like
Speaker 1: the logo Steve at Steve B or Steve eight four
Speaker 1: to two six six four three five because apparently four
Speaker 1: three four was taken. Love the show, absolutely Love Monday
Speaker 1: with you guys. Can we get them to turn down
Speaker 1: the background music in the bar? I mean, it's Monday morning.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the bar anyways? John Fitzgibbons, I
Speaker 1: have so much to say.
Speaker 3: There was one guy taking a nap earlier.
Speaker 1: John Fitzgibbons, how many wins do they need to go
Speaker 1: from being the commodes to the komodos, to the commodores
Speaker 1: to the commandos taking command Grissom, has anyone thought to
Speaker 1: maybe turn the speakers out in bar Canada while you're on?
Speaker 1: Eric Gillan, Kelly, I can't imagine being upset to have
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald turned down a little bit. Well, if it's
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald, no, But if it's anybody else, yes, If
Speaker 1: you could let me just respond to those by saying this,
Speaker 1: if you could hear me before the show, how many
Speaker 1: times did I say to turn on music? Eight? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're trying to manage parts of a casino. It is tough. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's next? Bill's at commander still the morning, Still in
Speaker 1: the morning. Yes, the one on one bills, the two
Speaker 1: and oh commodes bills, get it done. First of all,
Speaker 1: they trailed seven and nothing to the Raiders. And for
Speaker 1: those of us who had the bills and survivor or
Speaker 1: multiple survivor entries like myself, I had them in two. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, no, here we go. But Garoppolo was
Speaker 1: picked by Terrell Bernard off a deflection rather buffalo short
Speaker 1: seven play twenty eight yard drive. It was seven to
Speaker 1: seven then before you could blank three and out for
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Eighty four yard bills drive twelve plays aided
Speaker 1: by a twenty five yard pass interference being the biggest chunk.
Speaker 1: Allen to Dawson Knox from two out fourteen to seven.
Speaker 1: It got to fourteen to ten, and then honestly, at
Speaker 1: that point the route was on fourth and goal at
Speaker 1: the one. Oh before the route was on fourth and
Speaker 1: goal at the one for Buffalo, trying to add to
Speaker 1: their four point lead. Three zher one left in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, shotgun incomplete, intended for Dawson knocks gosh, I
Speaker 1: forgot about. We're still doing this. What do we if
Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen on your team, you go right it.
Speaker 1: Just run the ball with him, sneak it every time.
Speaker 1: Stop it already. But then another three and a half
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Buffalo short field one forty seven left,
Speaker 1: eight plays, Alan to Khalil Shakir for eleven twenty one
Speaker 1: ten at half. Allan was eighteen of twenty one for
Speaker 1: one forty two at the half, two touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: he was sacked once, and then they just added to
Speaker 1: it in the second half. No need to go into
Speaker 1: the details. Twenty eight to ten, then thirty one to ten,
Speaker 1: thirty eight to ten blowout for the Bills. Alan ended
Speaker 1: up thirty one of thirty seven for two seventy four
Speaker 1: to three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice James Cook,
Speaker 1: Dalvin's brother, seventeen for one to twenty three. They out
Speaker 1: first down the Raiders, if you will, twenty nine to
Speaker 1: thirteen now gained them four fifty to two. Forty Raiders
Speaker 1: only had fifty five rushing yards. Didn't hurt that the
Speaker 1: Bills were plus three in turnovers plus three and turnovers
Speaker 1: that led directly to ten Bills points and they out
Speaker 1: time it possessioned the Raiders forty four to nineteen fifty six,
Speaker 1: and not as much of a domination as the Cowboys Jets,
Speaker 1: but right up there, and we already talked about Washington, Washington,
Speaker 1: who somehow, somehow overcomes an eighteen point deficit to win
Speaker 1: a game in Denver that I said last week ago,
Speaker 1: I know this franchise, they never win a game like this. Well,
Speaker 1: when they were down eighteen, I felt real smart came
Speaker 1: all the way back and had to withstand a non
Speaker 1: flag on a two point conversion after a Hail Mary
Speaker 1: to win it. As much as I love the fact
Speaker 1: that Washington is two and Z I put Buffalo as
Speaker 1: a no man's land minus five and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite on the road. This is six and a half
Speaker 1: at DraftKings right now. Seven, it's about split six.
Speaker 3: And a half seven even more.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I thought it was gonna be high. It
Speaker 1: was mainly seven's right now it is the full seven.
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, okay, you think Sam, how's any good? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure yet. The offensive line is not great. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you just said it, because that's my answer. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure.
Speaker 2: I feel like the commanders are kind of I mean
Speaker 2: quarterback quarterback. Obviously, it's a change, but it feels very similar.
Speaker 3: To last year.
Speaker 1: I like there's a lot of highs and a lot
Speaker 1: of loaves with this team. It's it's one thing to
Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals and then the Broncos. Although I give
Speaker 1: him all the credit in the world for coming back
Speaker 1: on the road in elevation to beat the Broncos, I
Speaker 1: don't want to diminish that at all. This game against
Speaker 1: the Bills will tell us a lot. It will. What's
Speaker 1: next next? Up? Texans at the Jaguars. Yeah, the O
Speaker 1: and two Texans the one to one Jaguars Houston. They
Speaker 1: gave up an opening touchdown drive Anthony Richardson in from eighteen.
Speaker 1: They trailed seven to nothing and then Stroud was sacked
Speaker 1: by Deo odeingbo He fumbled it was recovered by Quitty Pay.
Speaker 1: Next play, Richardson was in from fifteen and it was
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing Colts before you could blink. But Richardson
Speaker 1: got concussed on the hit and he would never return.
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew played the rest of the way for the Colts.
Speaker 1: Texans did matriculate. Next time Stroud to Nico Collins were
Speaker 1: made out as fourteen to seven. That was as close
Speaker 1: as they'd ever get. It was twenty one to seven
Speaker 1: after a seventy seven yard Colts drive and a Zach
Speaker 1: Moss touchdown from eleven out. Then it was twenty one
Speaker 1: to ten. They did The Texans did get a game
Speaker 1: he fair barren Field goal, but twenty eight to ten
Speaker 1: by the half. Minshew was eleven of thirteen for one,
Speaker 1: fourteen at the half with a touch, got to thirty
Speaker 1: one ten is thirty one to ten, five fifty left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and then the Texans sort of
Speaker 1: cosmetically in garbage time made this score closer than it
Speaker 1: was thirty one to twenty in the end is the
Speaker 1: final and CJ. Stroud actually ended up thirty for one
Speaker 1: excuse me, thirty for forty seven for three hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty four yards, two touchdowns, no picks, but he was
Speaker 1: sacked six times and he lost a fumble. As we
Speaker 1: talked about Nico Collins seven for one forty six in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And then the Jags. We haven't talked about
Speaker 1: this game yet. The Jags lose to the Chiefs. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: Chiefs win this game. They cover in the process. This
Speaker 1: is the lowest scoring game of the weekend. I think
Speaker 1: it had the highest total. And the game started Jags
Speaker 1: punt case punt, Jags punt casey punt, I mean that's
Speaker 1: how it started. Jags had a fourth and one at
Speaker 1: the case thirty four to begin the second quarter. They
Speaker 1: decided to punt in plus territory. Richie James fumbled Tim
Speaker 1: Jones and the Jags recovered at the case seventeen, but
Speaker 1: they had to settle for a field goal, so they
Speaker 1: only led three to nothing. And it was the Chris
Speaker 1: Jones show, like left and right. He was just unbelievable
Speaker 1: in this game. By the way, after that three to
Speaker 1: nothing lead, just to let you know how this game
Speaker 1: win in case you missed it. Subsequent drive, third and
Speaker 1: seven at their own thirty nine, Mahomes justin Watson. He
Speaker 1: was hit by Darius Williams. He fumbled. Foyesad Olacon recovered.
Speaker 1: They tackled an unsportsman like but the first Jacksonville played Lawrence,
Speaker 1: then fumbles l Jerious Sneed recovers. Then two plays later
Speaker 1: Mahomes is picked by Andre Sisco. Was just this was
Speaker 1: that kind of geah, it was game. And then the
Speaker 1: Jags got a fourth and five at the casey forty
Speaker 1: five and they decided to go for it, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going for every fourth down in every game now,
Speaker 1: that's the new thing. He was sacked by Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Chris Jones was everywhere. Was still three to nothing. Mahomes
Speaker 1: to Edwards Lair gave the Chiefs their first lead before
Speaker 1: the end of the half. Actually they added Jacksonville got
Speaker 1: down the field real quickly. It was seven to six
Speaker 1: at the half, then it was fourteen to six. Mahomes
Speaker 1: to Kelsey from nine out on an eighty one yard
Speaker 1: drive to open the second half, and the Jags couldn't
Speaker 1: quite catch up the whole rest of the way fourteen
Speaker 1: to nine, seventeen to nine. Chris Jones. In addition to
Speaker 1: that sack, he deflected a Lawrence pass attempt on third
Speaker 1: down with three forty five left in the third quarter
Speaker 1: that caused a punt. Later on in the game, he
Speaker 1: had another huge sack when Jacksonville got all the way
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City fourteen. They had first in ten
Speaker 1: and on third down a sack by Jones. They ended
Speaker 1: up incomplete on fourth down, turning it over on downs
Speaker 1: with four eighteen left and they never saw the ball again.
Speaker 1: Kansas City wins at seventeen to nine. In the end,
Speaker 1: Lawrence twenty two to forty one for two sixteen and
Speaker 1: they were plus two in turnovers. Was Jacksonville, Yeah, didn't help.
Speaker 1: Horrible execution in the red zone by them. And look,
Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway from this game, because I
Speaker 1: don't really know how much there is to take away
Speaker 1: from this game, but I was impressed by the Chiefs
Speaker 1: defense and if this defense can be this good, well
Speaker 1: Chris Jones man, that is. He immediately said, this is
Speaker 1: why I held out. Yeah. Look, look, everything I did
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense. On the other hand, I don't know. I'll
Speaker 1: say Jaguars minus seven and a hook hosting the Texans.
Speaker 1: They are eight and a half point favorites right now
Speaker 1: in games, so it makes sense to me. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We still have seven games to get to.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them all. Week three in the National
Speaker 1: Football so far, what do I like best Detroit and
Speaker 1: Miami in Miami, Detroit in Miami so far? Yeah, those
Speaker 1: don't make sense to me. This is the another one
Speaker 1: people bet in Texans, Like, there's this numbers coming down?
Speaker 1: Who is betting the Texans right now? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Are we in the afternoon yet? Are we're still early games?
Speaker 1: We got one more in the morning? What more morning?
Speaker 3: Pacific time?
Speaker 1: Yes, East Ghast one o'clock Eastern coltet Ravens the one
Speaker 1: and one Colts. After that win yesterday against the Ravens
Speaker 1: now Anthony Richardson, as I mentioned, two rushing touchdowns knocked
Speaker 1: out of the game with the concussion, six of ten
Speaker 1: for fifty six, six of ten for fifty six, three
Speaker 1: carries for thirty five yards, but the two touchdowns. Minshew
Speaker 1: ended up nineteen of twenty three for one seventy one.
Speaker 1: But we don't know when it comes to this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, the status of a guy moving forward, it's
Speaker 1: always a dicey thing. Yeah, the the it was really
Speaker 1: interesting yesterday too, with the himself reporting it and basically
Speaker 1: taking himself out of the game. I don't like, have
Speaker 1: we gotten to a point in the league where you think,
Speaker 1: like his teammates are applauding him for doing something like that.
Speaker 1: One would hope, I would hope so. I would hope so.
Speaker 1: But I still questioned it, right because because a Neanderthal
Speaker 1: DNA same, Yes, I think that that's always going to
Speaker 1: remain in football. And I couldn't help but think about
Speaker 1: that yesterday. This kid is awesome. Like, I feel like
Speaker 1: we might have vastly underrated what this kid could be.
Speaker 1: And we knew it was gonna be. I certainly did
Speaker 1: before the draft. Yeah, I mean we knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna be. Hey, Boomer Bus kind of with him.
Speaker 2: But I have been impressed with his passing and then
Speaker 2: he you know, he is Josh Allen out there running
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 1: And then there's Baltimore. Can we just say that anyone
Speaker 1: who just disparaged this franchise a quick reminder they're as
Speaker 1: solid as it comes, this organization. Yep. And the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens beat the Cincinnati Bengals, and they do so on
Speaker 1: the road, and they are two and zero. Now, once
Speaker 1: again Baltimore getting it done. We had Matt Brown here
Speaker 1: on Friday given a passionate speech as to why he
Speaker 1: thought the Bengals would roll in this game. I don't
Speaker 1: know that Joe Burrow is right. That calf injury that
Speaker 1: he sustained in the preseason. I don't know if he's okay.
Speaker 1: Ravens win a twenty seven to twenty four. Let's just
Speaker 1: talk about the Baltimore side. They're up seven to nothing
Speaker 1: in this game. They're absolutely dominating it followed by a
Speaker 1: Cincinnati three and out. I have no idea what's happening
Speaker 1: behind us now at this point, a missed Tucker fifty
Speaker 1: nine yard field goal followed by another Bengals three and out.
Speaker 1: The Ravens were forced u punt, but then the Bengals
Speaker 1: Charlie Jones takes it eighty one yards to the house.
Speaker 1: Great Charlie Jones, the great Charlie Jones, who could forget him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then I loved him in college at that school
Speaker 1: he played for. And then a game the Gay Kelly's
Speaker 1: had it. Then they gave that. The that the Ravens
Speaker 1: were dominating is suddenly seven to seven a Tucker forty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal did make it ten to seven
Speaker 1: Ravens nine to fifteen left in the second quarter. The
Speaker 1: Bengals then finally went sixty six yards, which at that
Speaker 1: point was the longest drive of their season. They settled
Speaker 1: for McPherson twenty seven yard field. It's ten ten with
Speaker 1: three oh one left, Tucker forty yard field. Thirteen to
Speaker 1: ten Baltimore at the half. At the half, but a
Speaker 1: nineteen forty four to ten to sixteen time of possession
Speaker 1: advantage for Baltimore. How are they only up three? I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the Charlie Jones putt return for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Lamar was sixteen of twenty four for one forty one
Speaker 1: at the half, six carries for twenty nine yards, the
Speaker 1: Ravens leading rusher at the half. Bengals then go fifty
Speaker 1: eight yards to start the half. Oh, they're having drives now,
Speaker 1: but second and eighty at the Baltimore seventeen ten forty
Speaker 1: eight left third quarter Burrow picked by Gino Stone, who
Speaker 1: returned to thirty six yards. Still thirteen to ten Baltimore,
Speaker 1: and at this point Baltimore then would just one up
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and stay one score ahead. Of him the whole
Speaker 1: way through. Baltimore took over at their own thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Lamar to Zay Flowers, what are the young season Zay
Speaker 1: Flowers is having? What a grab? That was fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard catch. What a catch. Then after two more short
Speaker 1: Flowers gains one on the ground, one by pass Lamara
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews for three outs from three out, twenty to
Speaker 1: ten Baltimore, eight thirty nine left. In the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Bengals got their first touchdown drive on a thirteen play
Speaker 1: seventy five yard drive Burrow to Higgins from three out.
Speaker 1: The Bengals can get in the end zone twenty seventeen Baltimore,
Speaker 1: but then the Ravens go seventy five yards Lamarta Nelson
Speaker 1: Agualore for seventeen. They're up ten again, three and out
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati, three and out for Baltimore. Bengals go eighty yards,
Speaker 1: including a fourth and four conversion, and again they cut
Speaker 1: it to three twenty seven to twenty four with three
Speaker 1: twenty eight left. But in on brand Baltimore Ravens, you
Speaker 1: know condition that they're always in an on brand performance.
Speaker 1: The Bengals never see the ball again, and that's what
Speaker 1: the Ravens do. Can't get the Ravens off the field.
Speaker 1: Ball game twenty seven to twenty four. Baltimore lamar twenty
Speaker 1: four of twenty three excuse me, twenty four or thirty
Speaker 1: three for two thirty seven twelve carries fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: They outgained the Bengals four to fifteen to too eighty two,
Speaker 1: a game quite frankly that never should have been that close.
Speaker 1: I'll say Baltimore by a full ten at home against
Speaker 1: the Colts.
Speaker 3: Oh Man Ravens.
Speaker 1: This is eight at DraftKings, looking around seven and a
Speaker 1: half to eight and a half in the market right now.
Speaker 1: I think that's low. I don't like it as much
Speaker 1: as the the Detroit and Miami ones though, if yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Richardson obviously bears monitoring, but you know, if
Speaker 1: he plays, I don't know if I'm messing around bet
Speaker 1: In many games against this cold team, it's just it
Speaker 1: can be a one man offense. It looks like it's
Speaker 1: Josh Allen out there.
Speaker 3: Sometimes.
Speaker 1: This is not. This is not a dog I'm willing
Speaker 1: to go up against this game, Okay, all right? Next
Speaker 1: up we have ore into the afternoon games. Finally, Panthers
Speaker 1: at Seahawks four, h five Easter Panthers at Seahawks. Panthers
Speaker 1: don't play until tonight, which we'll get into momentarily. At Seattle,
Speaker 1: we already talked about Seattle's win against Detroit, a game
Speaker 1: in which Seattle looked great. Gino Smith, besides that one
Speaker 1: brain fart where he held the ball and didn't throw
Speaker 1: it away, was really great. In this game, Seattle won
Speaker 1: the coin flip in overtime after squandering a ten point
Speaker 1: lead in regulation, and they matriculated the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: They won at thirty seven to thirty one. Good on
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Gino thirty two of forty one for three
Speaker 1: twenty eight, two touchdowns, no picks, he with sack ones
Speaker 1: they were plus three and turnovers the Hawks were. That
Speaker 1: led directly to fourteen Seattle points. The fumble at the
Speaker 1: start of the second half, which they scored shortly thereafter,
Speaker 1: and then of course the pick six which put them
Speaker 1: up ten. I'll say Seattle minus six, Seattle four and
Speaker 1: a half at DraftKings, and that's what you're seeing four
Speaker 1: and a half five in that dead range around Seattle's
Speaker 1: only four and a half. Yep, I like the Seahawks two,
Speaker 1: so I like three home favorites.
Speaker 3: Me too.
Speaker 1: It's in that dead range though, like that only and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I don't think I'm betting this before tonight,
Speaker 1: But all right, can we take a break and talk
Speaker 1: about these two games? But I'm one, Yeah, these two
Speaker 1: games tonight, which again the only thing I have going.
Speaker 1: I have a I have the Pittsburgh teaser leg that
Speaker 1: was tied in to the Buffalo teesser leg last night yesterday. Rather,
Speaker 1: the first game is at seven to fifteen Eastern, four
Speaker 1: to fifteen Pacific. It's Saints at Panthers. The Saints are
Speaker 1: favored by a field goal. Saints coming off their sixteen
Speaker 1: to fifteen win against the Titans in Week one, Panthers
Speaker 1: coming off that loss to the Falcons, which they had
Speaker 1: every chance to win. And then it's the Browns at
Speaker 1: the steel which is probably the more fascinating game kicks
Speaker 1: off an hour later, eight fifteen eastern, five to fifteen Pacific,
Speaker 1: where the Browns are two point favorites. Let me just
Speaker 1: talk about that one first, where I have the Steelers
Speaker 1: teaser leg. The Steelers haven't lost a home Monday night
Speaker 1: football game in twenty tries. They're twenty to zero. In
Speaker 1: their last This is to me again. You talk about
Speaker 1: recency bias as being such a huge thing in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you talk specifically about week one recency bias because
Speaker 1: it's your only data point. Some people think the Browns
Speaker 1: are like NFL elite. Immediately with that defense, the Browns
Speaker 1: crush the Bengals in bad weather, and based on that performance,
Speaker 1: everybody is so convinced the Browns are great. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they will be. Maybe they will be. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the rush to judgment on that seems a little
Speaker 1: off to me. And Deshaun didn't look good at all
Speaker 1: again bad weather. Maybe he'll look better in this game.
Speaker 1: The Steelers, on the other hand, get crushed by the Niners,
Speaker 1: who to me might top to bottom be the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. They're at home, it's a division game.
Speaker 1: This feels like I might have a Steelers money line
Speaker 1: bet by the time the day is over. Okay, I
Speaker 1: just don't buy into this notion that a team in
Speaker 1: a division game at Pittsburgh that they ought.
Speaker 3: To be favored.
Speaker 1: I I don't disagree with you. This is I would
Speaker 1: have been. I would have said slight lean to to
Speaker 1: the Cleveland side for me because I do I do
Speaker 1: believe that defense is elite, elite, Like I think this
Speaker 1: is a top five defense in the league. I think
Speaker 1: there are major question marks still on what the offense
Speaker 1: is going to be this year.
Speaker 2: I think I said it last week. I'm still more
Speaker 2: confident DeShawn Watson the regaining his form than like a
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson where I feel like where everybody's asking question
Speaker 2: after every he's younger too, but where where this number
Speaker 2: is at right now? And the fact that Mark Cooper
Speaker 2: is probably not playing tonight, like and I think that's.
Speaker 1: A big deal.
Speaker 2: Like that's a bigger deal than like I mean, somehow
Speaker 2: we don't bring up anymore how like Dallas just let
Speaker 2: that guy go, Like, you know, two offseason, everybody.
Speaker 1: Lets him go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's been great for Cleveland so far since
Speaker 2: he's been there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. If he's out tonight,
Speaker 1: this is going to be a pass for me. I
Speaker 1: think it's like if you if you're a bigger fan
Speaker 1: of the Steelers than I am, I think it's a
Speaker 1: great teaser way player the first game tonight. And the
Speaker 1: reason that we bring this up is because I just
Speaker 1: mentioned I had Seattle minus six hosting Carolina next week.
Speaker 1: You tell me the line is only four and a
Speaker 1: half if Carolina gets so, Saints are three point favorites
Speaker 1: on the road again. I'm not. I want good things
Speaker 1: for Bryce Young, I don't. I just don't believe to
Speaker 1: if Carolina gets beat by double digits here tonight, don't
Speaker 1: know if it'll happen. Let's just say it does. What's
Speaker 1: that Seattle line tomorrow? That's what I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. If it does, we could we trust
Speaker 3: to six.
Speaker 1: If they if they get you know, it's by two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: six in a blink, if that happens. All right now,
Speaker 1: you don't have a play on Saints Panthers, don't do you? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure if I don't yet, I
Speaker 1: would lean Saints that way. Probably.
Speaker 2: I think they're just gonna be I think you'll be
Speaker 2: able to not have to do much and still win
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: I have zero feel for that. Saints Panthers games like
Speaker 1: zero five more games to get to looking for value.
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Speaker 1: John Baldouzzie, I lost my mom last week. Thanks for
Speaker 1: keeping me laughing and entertained. You guys are the best.
Speaker 1: John wow Man. I'm sorry to any degree that we
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Speaker 1: to you for sure. JR. Budaree, is there an ice
Speaker 1: cream truck driving through the studio? Sorry, that's a poor transition,
Speaker 1: but Robert Schaffer gil sounds like someone hit a jackpot
Speaker 1: on the penny Slots JJ wateringhole. Being a lifelong Colts fan,
Speaker 1: I am so encouraged by ar Anthony Richardson, but I
Speaker 1: can't help but have flashbacks to Andrew Luck and the
Speaker 1: hits he endured that ultimately made his decision to retire
Speaker 1: at twenty nine. A franchise killer. Love this kid, but
Speaker 1: guarded optimism is the safe play right now.
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1: Benjamin Schott is mad that you didn't know Charlie Jones
Speaker 1: where he went to school. That was part of the bit,
Speaker 1: is what it was, because he went to multiple Scott
Speaker 1: didn't know where he went to school. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I just listed off, I looked it up during
Speaker 1: the break Perdue Iowa Buffalo. Would you like to characterize those? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, good for you, Charlie Jones Scotti Scotti seven
Speaker 1: twenty six. Also, if Carolina gets blown out tonight by
Speaker 1: the Saints, they have to travel to the West Coast
Speaker 1: for a Sunday game, possibly minus seven. Even I'm with you, man,
Speaker 1: I am like, I just I can't believe that's only
Speaker 1: four and a half.
Speaker 3: So I like three.
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think you guys are right. I
Speaker 1: think the smart thing just to bet that game tonight
Speaker 1: or before tonight, may for tonight. Yeah. I like three
Speaker 1: games way too much, Kelly, way too much. There's sometimes
Speaker 1: we come out of here. I don't like anything three
Speaker 1: that convincingly. Yeah, Dolphins, I'm with the Dolphins. Lions, alright,
Speaker 1: what's next?
Speaker 3: Next?
Speaker 1: Up? Bears at Chiefs four twenty five. Oh, I thought
Speaker 1: we had gone through every game, but we hadn't. Here
Speaker 1: with the Bears and the and the UH Bucks. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the Bears are zero to two. And this is why
Speaker 1: I bet Matt Eberflus to be the first head coach fired,
Speaker 1: because there is no improvement in justin fields there just isn't.
Speaker 1: Bears trailed three nothing, then they led seven to three.
Speaker 1: They blocked a Chase McLaughlin field goal attempt, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the Bear's day. No. Bucks went eighty
Speaker 1: three yards Mayfield to Evans on the drive's first play
Speaker 1: for seventy three plays later, Rashad White in from four,
Speaker 1: ten to seven Bucks. Bears did out of Cairo Santos
Speaker 1: fifty two yard field goals ten to ten, one fifty
Speaker 1: five e left in the half. McGlaughlin twenty five yard
Speaker 1: field goal for the Bucks thirteen to ten Tampa at
Speaker 1: the half, and then well, I mean, look, this was
Speaker 1: a Mayfield to Evans show again for thirty two. The
Speaker 1: Bucks went up twenty to ten. Bears did come back.
Speaker 1: They went ninety yards just when you think they're out
Speaker 1: of it, Fields to Claypool for twenty twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Bucks fields six for six for ninety two yards on
Speaker 1: that drive alone. So it's like, right when you're, you know,
Speaker 1: prepared to bury him, and then he does that. Bucks
Speaker 1: forced to punt, Bears only down three. They get the
Speaker 1: ball with two twenty four left at their own seven,
Speaker 1: down three first and eleven at their own six. After
Speaker 1: the team's trade off side and OPI penalties, Fields screen
Speaker 1: pass picked just horrible Shaquille Barrett, shaq Barrett. Four yards
Speaker 1: later after you gets pushed in the end zone twenty
Speaker 1: seven to seventeen, Tampa Bay Fields adds one more pick
Speaker 1: for good measure. Christian Izi in for the second straight
Speaker 1: week we mentioned on Tampa Bay with a pick ballgame.
Speaker 1: Bucks two and zero Bears zero and two. You said
Speaker 1: they're traveling to where Kansas City? Yes, by the way,
Speaker 1: field sixteen of twenty nine for two to eleven, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: two picks. He was sacked six times. They only had
Speaker 1: fourteen first downs in two hundred and thirty six yards
Speaker 1: total yards against the Bucks, they were minus two and
Speaker 1: turnovers again the pick six game clincher. If not the
Speaker 1: next one sealing the deal, I'll say the Chiefs minus
Speaker 1: ten and a hook ten and a half only because
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense is a little lackluster. This isn't higher,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's it keeps moving. It keeps moving.
Speaker 2: So this is up to thirteen thirteen and a half
Speaker 2: now open to twelve and a half.
Speaker 1: Yester, Yeah, I figured it'd be low. By the way,
Speaker 1: Mahomes was sixteen of twenty one in that game yesterday
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars for one forty four. He only gained
Speaker 1: twelve yards at halftime, and he was their leading rusher
Speaker 1: at that point. He ended up with three hundred five
Speaker 1: yards passing, but again they were minus two and turnovers
Speaker 1: and won that game. The Chiefs did have twelve penalties
Speaker 1: for ninety four yards as well. So it's thirteen now
Speaker 1: you said, yeah, thirteen or thirteen and a half. This
Speaker 1: one's been lighting up like a Christmas treo on my blood.
Speaker 1: I mean, they should crush them. But I just worry
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs offense a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's it's I'm not worried about it long term. But yes,
Speaker 2: I think these first couple weeks of yeah, like finding
Speaker 2: a rhythm still is what they seem to be doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again they didn't have Travis Kelcey last week. They're, yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to find out. I just spoke like Yoda the
Speaker 1: yeah finding the rhythm all right? Cowboys and Cardinals for
Speaker 1: twenty five Cowboys at Cardinals two and ozer Cowboys, as
Speaker 1: we discussed with their win over the Jets, dak thirty
Speaker 1: one of thirty eight for two fifty five, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no Pixie with sack once Ceedee Lamb eleven for one
Speaker 1: forty three. They held the Jets to twelve first downs.
Speaker 1: That defense held the Jets to two hundred and fifteen
Speaker 1: total yards, that's two one five and they were plus
Speaker 1: four and turnovers ano as I mentioned the time of
Speaker 1: possession advantage against the Jets forty two, fifteen to seventeen
Speaker 1: forty five utter domination. In the thirty to ten Cowboys
Speaker 1: win and then Arizona. Dobbs was twenty one of thirty
Speaker 1: one against the Giants. Remember they led by three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: They led by twenty one two twenty eight through the air.
Speaker 1: He was three for forty one on the ground and
Speaker 1: a touchdown was Dobbs Connor James Connor twenty three for
Speaker 1: one oh six and a touchdown on the ground. I'll
Speaker 1: say Dallas minus ten and a half on the road,
Speaker 1: Dallas thirteen, Wow to draft plow on both of thirteen.
Speaker 1: Anywhere between twelve to thirteen. You could find on this
Speaker 1: game out thirteen on the road. Wo Yes, thirteen on
Speaker 1: the road. Yes, I mean listen, I said earlier Arizona
Speaker 1: could very well be too. And zero. Now does that
Speaker 1: mean I think they're any good? No, But this is
Speaker 1: why I always use the term those wins are banked.
Speaker 1: Like Philadelphia hasn't played particularly great, but they banked both wins,
Speaker 1: so there's nothing you can do about it anymore. Yeah, Cardinals,
Speaker 1: the opposite, the opposite. They they've played. They've played way
Speaker 1: more competitive football than I think I was expect anybody's
Speaker 1: I won't almost speak for everybody, but way more than
Speaker 1: I was expecting. And they have not banked a single win.
Speaker 1: They're oho to two, and you want to know their
Speaker 1: schedule moving forward? Yeah, home Dallas this week at San
Speaker 1: Francisco home, Cincinnati at the Rams, at Seattle home Baltimore
Speaker 1: at Cleveland. They don't have a game that did you
Speaker 1: just hear that stretch of football games? That could be
Speaker 1: One of these wins would have been nice. One of
Speaker 1: those wins would have been nice because you might be staring,
Speaker 1: oh to nine down the barrel right now and.
Speaker 3: This we're talking.
Speaker 1: You're even stopping at the falcons. I stopped in the
Speaker 1: falcons because I'm just trying to be kind. I stopped
Speaker 1: the falcons because then, yeah, right, because then at that
Speaker 1: point they could get a win or two, but that
Speaker 1: could be oh to nine right out of the shoot.
Speaker 1: And now when we talk about I don't know, we'll
Speaker 1: get to one more game here real quick. But I
Speaker 1: talked earlier at the beginning of the show. Here are
Speaker 1: all the and two teams in football. Remember you could
Speaker 1: bet on who's going to be the last undefeated, who's
Speaker 1: going to be the last team to get a win? Okay,
Speaker 1: here are the eight and by the way, this could
Speaker 1: be added to tonight if you know, if if New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Cleveland wins, then we'll have to add two
Speaker 1: more to and o's and two more and twos. But
Speaker 1: right now, as we stand right here, there are eight
Speaker 1: too and o's and eight oh and two's. The eight
Speaker 1: two and o's are San Francisco, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Baltimore, Dallas, Philly,
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay. Who's going to be the last team standing,
Speaker 1: last team to lose again, the last last remaining undefeated
Speaker 1: San Francisco, two and O Atlanta, t and O, Miami, Washington, Baltimore, Dallas, Philly,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay all too.
Speaker 2: And oh not looking at any schedules right now, going
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's either them or San Francisco or the obvious choices.
Speaker 1: They're right, yeah, Philadelphia, maybe some would say ohen two
Speaker 1: is the much more interesting conversation now, right, we could
Speaker 1: have a couple of teams, maybe one or two teams
Speaker 1: at it tonight, we don't know, maybe zero. But right
Speaker 1: now the eight winless teams are at oen two are Denver,
Speaker 1: the Chargers, okay, the Broncos, the Chargers, the Vikings, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Bears, the Cardinals, and the Bengals. Now
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals have lost those two games, they've got
Speaker 1: to be the overwhelming favorite. Yeah, and I have Caroline,
Speaker 1: I have a bet on Carolina in that. I'm wonder
Speaker 1: if they reposted odds. I'm gonna have to look for that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, who are they? Which one of those
Speaker 1: games are they winning? And I'm with you, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Let's squeeze in one more here, last winless team.
Speaker 1: They are plus one fifty a DraftKings, Texans plus two
Speaker 1: to fifty Bears plus three to fifty Broncos. Seven to
Speaker 1: one plus one fifty might be yeah a good number?
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite frankly, all right, Sunday Night Football because we
Speaker 2: have another double header Monday night next pak Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 2: Steelers at Raiders.
Speaker 1: All right, so we'll save the Monday night games for
Speaker 1: after the break. Steelers haven't played again. They host the
Speaker 1: Browns Tonight. They're at the Raiders. The Raiders are one
Speaker 1: and one. They lose badly to the Bills yesterday after
Speaker 1: the Bills spotted them seven points. Jimmy g was sixteen
Speaker 1: of twenty four for one eighty five. They were out first,
Speaker 1: down to twenty nine to thirteen. They were out gained
Speaker 1: four fifty to two forty. The Raiders only had fifty
Speaker 1: five rushing yards. Josh Jacobs lamenting that after the game
Speaker 1: the Raiders were minus three and turnovers that led directly
Speaker 1: to ten Bills points and again out time of possession
Speaker 1: forty oh four to nineteen fifty six. Without seeing the
Speaker 1: Steelers here, I said, this is a pick them because
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of either team currently.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, and it's it's Steelers one.
Speaker 1: At DraftKings right now you can get it's Steelers one
Speaker 1: one and a half everywhere one one and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with no surprise there to me, and right
Speaker 2: now I would have no interest in bending it. I
Speaker 2: can only imagine I would be interested in the Steelers side,
Speaker 2: but not I'm not.
Speaker 1: Laying one on the load with them right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So Monday night double header tonight, and another
Speaker 1: Monday night doubleheader next week tomorrow that would be Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So consecutive double headers, and I think we have one
Speaker 1: more later in the year too, part of the.
Speaker 3: New sort of scheduling. There's a few of them.
Speaker 1: That's that's happening in the NFL this week. We'll get
Speaker 1: to those two games if we can't extract more value.
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Speaker 1: knocked out here in just shy of two weeks and
Speaker 1: overs yesterday went eleven and two, twelve and two for
Speaker 1: the week now in overs heading into tonight's doubleheader, which
Speaker 1: is interesting because Kelly, the biggest mover of this morning
Speaker 1: is the opposite of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's multiple totals that keep getting hit under. I'm
Speaker 2: watching this Patriot hits Chets one. This was like thirty eight,
Speaker 2: thirty eight and a half. I believe I've seen it
Speaker 2: as low as thirty six this morning and when I
Speaker 2: say the super cool Sharps, just keep betting it back
Speaker 2: at the super coool ping pong and back and forth,
Speaker 2: super cool sharp.
Speaker 1: It's like thirty seven ish right now? What's the other one?
Speaker 1: Colts Ravens. The under keeps getting hit on that as well,
Speaker 1: So I think people adj you know, people adjusting a
Speaker 1: little bit after all the overs this week. Don't look now, Gil,
Speaker 1: but you might be able to get a three on
Speaker 1: that Linus game. There are three and a half's out
Speaker 1: there on that game. People have swooped in and are
Speaker 1: betting the Falcons. Did I miss something on the Falcons? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Okay, all right, just keep betting
Speaker 1: it down. Hey, hey, why you're at to get it
Speaker 1: to a three? You got I'm seeing two?
Speaker 3: There's three and a half right by.
Speaker 1: Okay? Well again, I went two and three this week,
Speaker 1: so I should perhaps I shouldn't talk right after the
Speaker 1: Broncos squandered that game, all right? Doubleheader Monday Night next
Speaker 1: week seven fifteen Eastern Eagles at Bucks two and o
Speaker 1: versus two and oh. How about the NFC East having
Speaker 1: three two and oh teams in a one and one?
Speaker 1: The NFC East is seven and one. The AFC West
Speaker 1: would be yeah, by I'm just trying to think two
Speaker 1: and six is that the worst so far? I would
Speaker 1: imagine Philadelphia at Tampa Bay two and o versus two
Speaker 1: and zero, Philadelphia extra rest coming off that win against
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Again, Philadelphia hasn't looked particularly great either week
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and the Vikings, but they banked the
Speaker 1: two wins. And then Baker Mayfield yesterday and that win
Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. Twenty six of thirty four for
Speaker 1: three seventeen good on Baker, one touchdown, no picks, he
Speaker 1: was not sacked, Mike Evins six for one seventy one
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. They held the Bears to fourteen first
Speaker 1: downs and just two hundred and thirty six total yards.
Speaker 1: They outgained Chicago four thirty seven to two thirty six.
Speaker 1: They were plus two in turnovers. As we mentioned, the
Speaker 1: pick six and then the game clincher, the next one
Speaker 1: that sealed the deal that said Philly minus seven the
Speaker 1: full touchdown at Tampa Bay, I would guess six and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Six and a half pretty much painted that way, all right,
Speaker 2: And I'm not willing to lay that it's another dog
Speaker 2: I got respect for the dog. I got to touch
Speaker 2: it eight to fifteen Eastern Rams at the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Same format as this as tonight, where the games are
Speaker 1: an hour apart. In terms of kickoff Rams at Bengals,
Speaker 1: Rams are one in one, and as I said beginning
Speaker 1: of the show when we first talked about them in
Speaker 1: their game against the Niners, because the Niners are playing
Speaker 1: Thursday night next week, the Rams probably just anecdotally the
Speaker 1: most can the most underrated team conventional wisdom wise this offseason.
Speaker 1: At least through two games, they're one and one again.
Speaker 1: They crushed the Seahawks in their first game. They lose yesterday,
Speaker 1: but get the cover on that very peculiar field goal
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. Late in that game, the last
Speaker 1: play of the game, when Sean McVay down two scores,
Speaker 1: really couldn't figure out exactly what to do. It's like, hey, Sean,
Speaker 1: have you played Madden before? You kind of should kick
Speaker 1: this or anyway, they end up not doing anything but
Speaker 1: kicking a field goal that gave the Rams the cover,
Speaker 1: and then they're Cincinnati, who's now zero to two. The Rams,
Speaker 1: by the way, in defeat yesterday, Stafford thirty four of
Speaker 1: fifty five for three h seven, one touchdown, two picksy
Speaker 1: sack once, and Pooka Nakua. I have him at twenty
Speaker 1: five to one Offensive Rookie of the Year. If Offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year was voted on right at this
Speaker 1: very moment, Poka Nakua is your offensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: Apologies to Zay Flowers and Bijon Robinson and everybody else,
Speaker 1: because Nakua after a game in which he had fifteen
Speaker 1: targets and caught ten passes, yesterday he had twenty targets
Speaker 1: and caught fifteen, say fifteen for one forty seven. He
Speaker 1: has twenty five catches on thirty five targets in two weeks.
Speaker 1: Pooka Nakula, everybody eight to one to win Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year now eight to one. YEP is third behind
Speaker 1: Bijeon and Anthony Richardson. He was one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: to one this off seas oh my gosh, minus two
Speaker 1: and turnovers the Rams were that led to six San
Speaker 1: Francisco points and then Cincinnati. We talked about them the Bengals.
Speaker 1: If the Rams are the most underrated team of the
Speaker 1: offense season, the Bengals are starting to feel like the
Speaker 1: most overrated. I don't know if Joe Burrow's okay though
Speaker 1: that calf injury that remember that offseason calf injury where
Speaker 1: they caught the Bengals practice from afar. The camera was,
Speaker 1: you know, from I don't know, fifty feet away, let's say,
Speaker 1: and we saw the calf injury. Well, Burrow was in
Speaker 1: the first half yesterday. Burrow was eight of eleven for
Speaker 1: thirty five yards three point three yards per attempt, four
Speaker 1: first downs for the Bengals. In the first half, they
Speaker 1: were out first downed seventeen to four. They only had
Speaker 1: sixty three total yards in the first half. They were
Speaker 1: out gained two twenty five to sixty three. And remember
Speaker 1: yet they only trailed by three. Second half, they picked
Speaker 1: it up. Burrow ended up twenty seven to forty one
Speaker 1: for two twenty two, two touchdowns, one pick. He was
Speaker 1: sacked once. They were outgained by Baltimore though in the
Speaker 1: end four fifteen to two eighty two. Not only are
Speaker 1: they owing to Kelly, they're zero to two in the
Speaker 1: division and I think Joe Burrow's calf injury is aggravated.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is still going to be the favorite here. By
Speaker 1: the way, Doug Clawson putting this in perspective for US,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, oh for twelve on passes of fifteen plus
Speaker 1: air yards this season. He's the only quarterback with multiple
Speaker 1: starts and zero completions thrown fifteen plus air yards. If
Speaker 1: there was a betting market for that, And I said,
Speaker 1: who do you think the last quarterback in the league
Speaker 1: is to have a completion of fifteen plus air yards?
Speaker 1: What number would you have gotten on Joe bur Gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: an door. Yeah, it is wild. And yet all that said,
Speaker 1: I'll say the Bengals minus four and a half. So this,
Speaker 1: I guess this requires a story. I didn't see. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it live, but when he hobbled off the field,
Speaker 1: he did, you know, really at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: And then I heard him talk about it postgame. I
Speaker 1: mean he admitted it's bothering him. It's an issue.
Speaker 3: This opened at six and a half yesterday. It's it's
Speaker 3: three and.
Speaker 1: A half now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, it's it's in. I don't blame
Speaker 2: everybody out there. I I had I wish I had seen.
Speaker 2: I was on the air, I didn't see.
Speaker 1: That's one of those where you're like I can't believe
Speaker 1: I still do guessing lines that I can't grab it.
Speaker 1: Six and a half. That's that's it. That was an
Speaker 1: insane opener, Yes, because the Rams are really actually a
Speaker 1: pretty darn good football see even that. So like the
Speaker 1: evil if you're watching a fist dot com or on
Speaker 1: YouTube TV right now, like that six and a half.
Speaker 1: I punched that in three hours ago this morning. You
Speaker 1: could have gotten that three hours ago. So it's three
Speaker 1: and a half now it's three and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot more correct than six and a half.
Speaker 1: The Rams are really good. Like we remember the things
Speaker 1: we were saying about the Rams in the off season.
Speaker 1: Not only were we wondering if they were gonna be
Speaker 1: any good, but the scenario that a lot of people
Speaker 1: put forth was, Hey, if they're no good, they're actually
Speaker 1: gonna bench Stafford at some point and just go with
Speaker 1: uh with the kid from Georgia, right yeah, and and
Speaker 1: just figure out you know what they have and that
Speaker 1: ain't happening. These guys are really good.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the and it's I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're really good, but it's the NFC right where you
Speaker 2: ain't gonna quit on, but like, who's who's great in
Speaker 2: the NFC?
Speaker 1: I was side of the top three teams. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: they crushed Seattle right who beat Detroit yesterday? They they
Speaker 1: they led the nine Ers seventeen to ten. Uh into
Speaker 1: the was it into its late second quarter? And like
Speaker 1: you said, it's the NFC. When remember when we asked
Speaker 1: the question what's the NFC team that will make the
Speaker 1: playoffs that no one is talking about? The Rams are
Speaker 1: the clear answer to that question so far. I agree
Speaker 1: with if you put in that perspective completely, yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: like they're.
Speaker 2: Alive for the playoffs. Yeah, I don't think they're quitting.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're winning a Super Bowl. I agree
Speaker 2: with you right now.
Speaker 1: You don't look at this as a team that's gonna
Speaker 1: be quitting at any point this season at three and
Speaker 1: a half. Do you like a bet either way on
Speaker 1: this right now?
Speaker 2: Stay away if you if you're good on everybody who
Speaker 2: grabs six and a half early?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Lions, Dolphins and what was the third
Speaker 1: one I loved so much on this settle Lion of Dolphins, Seahawks.
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