WEBVTT - Mick Shots: No Shortage Of Topics 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.200 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:17.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.200 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:27.200 Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.919 Welcome into another edition of Mick Shots on this beautiful 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.400 Thursday morning. We've got a lot of great stuff coming 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.080 your way. I'm Danny Siak alongside two of the Cowboys greats, 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.879 Mickey Spagnola and Everson Walls. Now we are doing this virtually. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.479 We're following the social distancing rules making sure everyone is safe. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.200 So I gotta check in with you guys during this quarantine. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.240 How have you guys been holding up so far? Well? 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.000 I think pretty well, you know, being able to work 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.440 at home and do basically everything we would do in 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.600 the office. The only downside is is we don't bump 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.280 into anybody to talk to, uh to get some information 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.440 I'm getting ready for this draft. But other than that, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.880 you know, we're still doing our podcasts and uh still 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.840 uh feeding the monster Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So still 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:26.039 writing and uh yeah, kind of staying busy, although uh 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.199 you don't get a chance to talk too many people. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.679 You know, I've been doing okay here on this end. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.120 I'm working out a lot. Oh my god, spags you 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.319 and I. We're gonna have a little contest when it's 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.399 all setting up. Well, we'll have to tour to North Texas, right, 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.000 we right, we might have. We're gonna we're gonna start 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.960 out with an ab contest. I want to see what 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:52.800 your abs. Oh gosh, yeah, I would love to see that. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.840 Who could do more crunches? Oh my gosh, I'm not 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:01.800 come back looking like us dog buffed up a little 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.000 uh wowa something coming up there. You scared me, Bro. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:13.959 I can't believe you're getting the shah. I don't think so. Right. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.000 Yesterday I rode my bike out into the country and 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.840 I went down some roads that I'd never been on before, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.520 and I was like, I don't know where I'm at 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.040 right now, and I don't know if I've gone too 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.519 far to get back in one piece. So but it 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.519 all worked out and ended up being a huge circuit. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.080 And it's amazing you guys out this way, this part 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:41.639 of North Texas or North Texas here. Uh, the amount 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.280 of a country that's out here, the amount of horse 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.320 fires and the mansions that are out here. I just 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.280 want to know what these people do for a living. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.640 They're steal these bags, they steal, that's how they got it. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:00.400 They stole the minor I've seen. I've seen more equestrians centers, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.800 and I ever knew that. I knew there was one 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.480 or two out here, but there must be six or seven. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.040 It's amazing. But it's great to be out on those 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.480 country roads. No one's bothered you, and I'm within I'm 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:16.040 not within six feet of anybody. I'll guarantee you. There 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.720 you go, you're following the rules. I love that making 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.120 back out there with nature. But I know you've been 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.480 watching some TV two even watching some of those old 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:29.760 games that have been reairing. Yeah. I actually yesterday it 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.560 was the first time I see I got to go 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.360 to the National Championship game, the LSU Clemson game, so 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.720 I never saw the game on television. I never heard 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:43.800 the commentary, and so yesterday it was on and I said, oh, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.000 let me watching it. I think I watched the majority 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.760 of the second half, and the one thing I was 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.160 surprised about in the third quarter. And remember and Everson, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.360 you jump in on here, but Clemson had a pretty 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.080 good defense, and in that third quarter they were starting 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.200 to give LSU a little problems and Burrow wasn't completing 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.960 every pass right, And I heard the guys say, oh, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.119 I don't know, Joe looks like he might be ill. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.600 He's I don't know if he's heard. He's not playing well, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.480 he might be sick. And I'm sitting there watching this, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.880 and as the game continued, I said, the only sick 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.440 thing about it were the dimes he was dropping on 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.120 his receivers. It was ridiculous, some of those touchdown passes. Right. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.320 You know, it was kind of looking at that whole game, Spags. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.480 You look did the entire game. That was some amazing football. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.839 You had two great quarterbacks and once again we talked 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.320 about the wide receivers, the studs that they had in 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.440 their game on both sides. That was something that was 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.440 very impressive. That was one of the more talent ritten 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.800 exciting playoff games I think I've ever seen in college football. Yeah, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.440 and they were. They were starting to give Lawrence the 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.200 clums and quarterback a hard time, and I'm going, yeah, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.359 the reason he's having a hard time is that the 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.680 LSU front is getting after him. He didn't have a 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.039 lot of time in the pocket, so it was kind 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.920 of good to go back and watch that. And then Danny. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.400 The other thing I watched, and it was on last 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.719 Saturday they showed. It was a replay of all the 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.720 Peyton's places, the half hour shows that they were showing me, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.320 and I had never seen one of them because they 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.720 were on ESPN Plus and I don't have it. So 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:30.080 they were broadcasting these on ESPN, and I started watching 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.120 one or two or three, and then I said, you 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.720 know what, I don't know how many of there are, 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.800 but I'm going to record the whole series. So I 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.320 just kind of I binge watched like half of them. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.400 What did you learn, spags? Tell me what you learn? Well, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.920 here's the one I did learn, and it was about 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.640 the the Lombardi Trophy because I had forgotten that. You know, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.080 once they came up with the trophy in those first 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.360 years of the Super Bowls, it wasn't called the Lombardi Trophy, right, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:03.640 It was called something like the Professional World Professional Football Championship, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.000 and they inscribed that on the trophy, and it was 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.680 a traveling trophy. It was like the Stanley Cup, so 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.560 the winner got to keep it for a year with 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.400 the team's name on it. And then in nineteen seventy, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:21.200 when they decided after Vince Lombardi passed away after his 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.880 one year coaching the Redskins, they decided to name the 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.000 trophy the Lombardi Trophy. So the first year of the 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:33.159 Lombardi Trophy was actually nineteen seventy and it dawned on me. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.320 And when I saw that, I said, oh, the Cowboys 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.200 had an opportunity to win the first Lombardi Trophy since 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.800 they were in Super Bowl five. They ended up losing 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.800 to Baltimore sixteen to thirteen, and they could have and 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.800 that's when they finally gave the trophy away. So they 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.680 had made a new one every year. And the funny thing, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.359 and this is certainly what I didn't know for sure, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:03.880 and Everson you'll remember this. And uh, like midnight in 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:11.440 nineteen eighty four, the Baltimore Colts left Baltimore for Indianapolis, right, uh, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.120 and no one knew they were leaving. They just kind 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.840 of took off. And yeah, that was way before social media. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.040 They couldn't get away with that. Now, there's no way 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.600 they could get away with that. Which, by the way, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.840 all you. All you would call was uh, Mayflower trucks 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.480 being moved and packed up. That's all that they showed 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.520 that in the dead of night. They snuck out in 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.440 the dead of night. That was one of the more 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:41.720 classless moves I think by any organization until Model came 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:48.920 and reversed it with to Baltimore from Cleveland. So do 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.280 you remember that happening? Like, were you shocked when you 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.880 heard a team that you probably could play moved to Indianapolis? 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.040 That that was a low blow. I was shocked at 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.920 the entire sports world was shot because they just couldn't 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.080 believe that a team would would first of all, be 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.160 able to do it under my under cover of darkness, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.000 which it just seemed like such a sneaky way. Could 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.800 you imagine if a brother had to pay his bills 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.200 and he just leaves his apartment right not paying his bills. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.360 Come on, they'd be looking for They'd be looking for 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.880 him all over. Or what if the Chargers just decided, Okay, tonight, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.440 we're leaving San Diego for La which I will yeah, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.679 and you know daddy. And the funny thing was is 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:39.160 so they were awarded the Lombardi Trophy. Uh and in 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:43.199 their agreement with the city. When they left, they left 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.079 the they decided the city of Baltimore said, no, that 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.520 trophies ours, it's nut yours. And so they left the 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:55.080 trophy behind. Oh my gosh. And when I mean, come on, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.520 tell me, that's Cleveland going to Baltimore. That's the same 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:03.000 things that I think, right, it's right. They left the 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.559 records behind, right, and so Cleveland would not let them 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.600 take anything. When Payton was trying to do the story 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.520 on the trophy, UH, they basically showed said, okay, we'll 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.400 show you where we're keeping the trophy. And it was 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.680 in the basement of the Babe Ruth Base. You'll have 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.920 the trophy. Yes, it's still base, not on display. It's 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.720 down in a basement, just sitting on a table. And 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.439 I was like, okay, that's a waste. This is too good. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.160 So those were some of the things I think I learned. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:36.880 And now here's the other one. And I don't know 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.920 ever soon if you'll remember this, but that year when 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.360 the Cowboys went to the Super Bowl, uh, they ended 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.120 up with a two game losing streak kind of mid 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.360 season uh. And in the big showdown against the Saint 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.800 Louis Cardinals, who were in first place at the time. Uh, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.439 the Cowboys at the Cotton Bowl get wiped out thirty 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.000 eight to nothing. They turned the ball over six times. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.240 And now after nine games, they're sitting there five and four, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:11.160 and everybody is given the team grief right there under fire. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.680 This is a team that was supposed to be really 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.440 good and they're sitting there at five and four, and 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.360 Tom Landry goes, well, the only way we're going to 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.199 get in the playoffs if we win the last five 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.280 games in a row. And they won the last five games, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.800 finished ten and four and in the first round of 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.360 the playoffs beat Detroit just pummeled him five to nothing. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.200 That they win. Then they win the NFC Championship game 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.079 seventeen to ten over samfra Tom Tom Landry called that 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:49.280 Detroit game the most dominating defensive effort he's ever seen 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.319 by a doomsday defense. Yeah, and that's what's at their height, right, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.640 and that's kind of uh they were had You had 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.719 meyl Winfeld back there doing his thing, doing his d 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:05.040 Sanders thing. You had Cornell Green playing both safety and 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.800 corner at that time. I think he got I'm not 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.880 sure if he got all Pro at safety that year 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.520 or if he got All Pro at cornerback that year, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.360 but that he was such a diverse player for the Cowboys. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.080 That's when you had the versatility, you had the talent, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.920 and you had the scheme all in one. That was 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.560 a perfect storm for the Dallas Cowboys defense at that time. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.040 That's when that's really when doomsday became alive. Right, and 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.000 then you know they go to the Super Bowl and 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.520 they basically hold Baltimore to sixteen points and they get 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:44.160 beat sixteen thirteen, but giving him sixteen thank you. Yes, 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.439 So when you had the John Mackie, the John mcke 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.599 double double tap U double tips, so to speak, you 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.199 couldn't you couldn't. You couldn't tip the ball to a 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.120 to your own player, right right? And how wentz bags? Yes, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:06.800 so they tipped the ball John mckincardon went seventy plus yards, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.560 Charlie Waters, Cliff Haris going crazy out on the field. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.360 But they didn't take it back. No, we play at 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.600 that time, of course, so the mistake is mistake. It stood. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.360 So that's how close to Cowboys came to winning the 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.719 first Lombardi Trophy. And then we know what happened after that. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.160 They went back to the Super Bowl the next year 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.800 and won the first chapel. But I'll tell you with me, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:33.080 I've I've been so bored around here. So I decided 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:39.800 to stroke my ego one day. Danny Oh, nineteen eighty 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.920 one was you know, that's the my rookie year. I 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.400 get eleven picks. No one's got the eleven interceptions since 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.120 that year. That's a long time ago. So I go 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.520 back and I think I'm gonna give my my ego stroke. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.480 And all I see was all the times I was 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.360 getting toasted. Right every time I looked up, I like, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.199 I forgot about that play. Oh my god, I got 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.839 about that touchdown. Wow, I forgot I gave up those 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.640 many yards in that particular game. So at first, you know, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.000 I started trying to fast forward to my interceptions. That 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.880 took too long, and so I started calling people. I 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.080 just started calling the guys that were toasting me. So 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.200 I called her call Michael, and I cursed him out. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.559 I called boy Green, I called him an old goat. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.640 And I didn't mean that in a in a complimentary way. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.319 I was just calling everybody that I called everybody that 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.680 beat me. It was so I got caught up with 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.840 a lot of guys. We had some good conversations. That's 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.800 after I ended up, After I cursed him out, I 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.560 ended up. We had ended up having great conversations, having 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.120 a good time. But that's what I've been doing, going 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:50.079 back on YouTube, watching old Cowboy games and reliving those moments, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.480 and you know, it's it's it's good, of course, just 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.880 to see those those old memories. But man, you look 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.440 at the guys that are not here, and that kind 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.440 of really took me, took me back a little bit 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.680 as far as the guys that are gone now and 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.000 the guys that are you know, that are kind of 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.920 sick right now. And it's just so amazing when you 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.000 look at the history of the Cowboys and and just 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.360 my own brief history here in Dallas. Uh, And you 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.800 look at your teammates that you you had that bond with, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.880 You look at your folds that you actually had relationships 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.640 with his well post career, and uh, it really made 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.960 me kind of connect a lot with the people that 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.680 that I had played with and played again. I called 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.840 Tony Hill, Who else did I call? I called Billy 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.480 Joe Dupree. I was just calling everybody, and you know, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.600 just having a good time just making some calls. So 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.280 that's my that's been my connection through this entire coronavirus. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.040 Then you should you should have given Tony Dorsetta call. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.600 It was his birthday on Tuesday. You're right, You're so right. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.200 I should have give him a call. Found these things 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.680 that are forty years old, and you found us? Oh yeah, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.280 and you on YouTube and find anything. My shame is. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.160 My shame is on YouTube, up and down the line. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.520 That's good, well, mickey, UM, I have some homework for 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.840 you for next week for the Paynes places. You need 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.800 to go watch the Emmett Smith one. I did the 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:20.080 one that they did with Emmett far Vron, Eric Dickerson. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.680 Was it that one? Um? I can't remember if it 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.280 was all three of them. I remember watching it like 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.200 on social media when it they put it out a 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.360 couple months ago. But he has the storage unit and 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.040 it's gone. I saw that football You did see that one? Okay? Yeah? 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.480 I like that right? And that's and Peyton ever said 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.040 Peyton Nascomb. He goes, so is there something in here 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.840 I can take as a souvenir? He goes, absolutely not. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.120 But but the story is Emmett when he when he 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.600 first started, he would he would keep every touchdown ball 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.720 that he remember and they put it in and then 0:15:54.760 --> 0:16:01.120 his dad in Pensacola, um he uh he up. And 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.960 this was at the at the advent of trading cards 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.240 and so he epped en up basically a souvenir shop 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.080 and they had all the balls there and Emmett would 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.960 just keep storing them in boxes and had to get 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.800 a storage unit because he had so many touchdowns. Yeah, 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.240 it was a pretty cool that was That was one 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.720 of the pretty cool stories. Absolutely. They also showed the 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.960 one about making the football and they walked into the 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.560 lady who was sewing them by hand, and she was 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.440 shocked that Peyton was standing there. Yeah, it was pretty 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.520 good stuff. You're exactly right. I used to I used 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.720 to keep all my interceptions from my rookie year, and 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.720 I found out that I would if you give them 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.320 away to charity, you know, they would bid on them, right, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:52.000 And so pretty much I'd say nine out of the 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.600 first eleven interceptions I gave away to charity, I kept 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.400 for my first one. I kept my first one, and 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.000 I don't know the other one I gave to my nephews. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.479 So yeah, it's it's all to up. Did they make 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:12.960 you pay for him? No, they did not. Eventually we 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:18.600 pay for everything. Okay, well you pay. You did a 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.280 better job than Drew did. After he cut the hill, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.920 Mary ended up throwing the ball out of the stadium 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.679 and they never found the football. And get you know what, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:32.040 that is one of the most controversial things ever. Someone 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.000 has that ball. Absolutely okay someone You would think they 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.240 would come out with it, but they were so mad 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.399 in Minnesota. They may have gone home and thrown it 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.040 into the fireplace or something, or they blew it up, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:50.480 deflated it or something. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, Oh my gosh, um, okay, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.120 well real quick, going back, Mackey, when you were watching 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.800 that uh national you're watching that title game with LSU, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.040 there's uh you were talking about the defense and they 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.919 have got some amazing defensive players going into the draft 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.639 this year, and you kind of touched on that front 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.440 defensive line, But there is a player in the secondary 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.040 who is a really top candidate for the Cowboys with 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.480 that seventeenth pick. And I'm sure Everson you have a 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.800 lot to touch on talking about safety, Grant Delpit. Yeah, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:26.880 I saw where Gil Brandt, Cowboys former personnel director and 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.160 he's still keeping a hand in the NFL after all 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.520 these years. Said that when they asked him, who do 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.520 you think the best safety is in the draft, and 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:41.440 he said Grant Delpot LSU, and yeah, he's a good one. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.960 And Everson, I understand that, you know maybe a little 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.720 bit about the mister Delpot. Well, you know, I've got 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:55.080 my connections in New Orleans. My college roommates from New Orleans, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.280 and of course that's my second family down there. And 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:03.400 they talked about the del famed family and how prominent 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.840 they are in the city. Talked about how this young 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.359 kid came up even from a from an early age, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.040 he was always a stud. And when you look at 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.840 how he played in the in the playoffs, I was 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:22.520 impressed with how he challenged the receivers for Clemson. I 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.679 had never seen anyone challenge receivers the way he was 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.840 down the field. He took the proper angles. He was 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.800 very anticipatory on every play that was coming down the pike. Now, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.600 of course they were able to Clemson was able to 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.520 get some good plays down the field because they have 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.840 amazing players at the wide receiver position. But when you 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:46.520 look at his play, not only is he adept at 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:52.240 playing the ball. He's also a very physical and aggressive 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.720 defensive back. Right now, you would have to give him. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.639 I think he's the top defensive back in the draft. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.520 I thought that as soon as I saw him play, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.840 because the ball skills were evident. There was no confusion 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.199 out there. He was never out of position. And of 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.280 course there were times when the ball there were playing 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.639 still made on him. But that's just the way it 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.560 was in that particular game because you had talent all 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.400 over the field, but he even stood out amongst all 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.800 of that talent. And that says a lot about him 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.560 when you're looking at the game. That just possessed so 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.520 many great athletes in their game. Yeah, and if you 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.000 look at cowboy needs, you know, and gosh, that's a 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.040 that's a whole segment, right, a whole probably show because 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.160 there's so many needs, right you know, in safety's one 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:44.320 of them, cornerbacks one of them. Uh yeah, and he 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.560 was awfully aggressive against the run. Now, Gill said, one 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.760 of his one of his weaknesses is sometimes he doesn't 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.320 tackle real well, takes bad angles. He goes, but that's teachable. 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.680 You could cure that he goes. But the coverage skills 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:02.080 and his ability just to play that same position. He 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.600 considers him that the best guy there, and I thought 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:11.080 that was awfully interesting. Well, in years past, the Cowboys 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.320 haven't used those early draft picks on safeties or cornerbacks. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.600 But you know, now we have a new coaching staff, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.480 so really anything is up for grabs, and defensive back 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.320 is definitely a unit where the Cowboys are needing to 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.320 add some depth. We will have more discussion though, coming 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.480 up about the draft and some of the players and 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.679 things that are going on. And we've actually got a 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.399 really great interview behind the scenes look at one of 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.840 the virtual interviews the Cowboys are having to conduct now 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.960 that everyone is social distancing. So stay with us. We'll 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.360 have a behind the scenes interview right after this. 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