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Speaker 1: Hi's here White with the interception, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there. Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: I know this is odd for everybody to have me

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Speaker 5: speaking first on Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I love it. Let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 5: And actually one of the reasons is because of you, Paula.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, let me right now. And I'm I'm about

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Speaker 2: this close to getting into a three point stance of

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Speaker 2: coming off the ball. Even though we don't have the

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Speaker 5: I think this is actually when I'm saying it's for you,

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Speaker 5: this is not going to be a rip pall thing

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Speaker 2: Don't give me another list. I'm so done with lists

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Speaker 5: It is a list, and it's interesting, but I the

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Speaker 5: first thing I thought of was you so SI dot

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Speaker 5: com did a article.

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Speaker 4: List whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: It's a positive thing, right It's about people that you

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Speaker 5: don't think have a chance to be All Pro this year,

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Speaker 5: that are under the raidar but that could be all pro.

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Speaker 5: There were some names on there. I'm like, yeah, that

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Speaker 5: guy's never going to be all Pro. But whatever, I

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Speaker 5: get to the bottom of the list, do tell Punter

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Speaker 5: Gillikin isn't known nationally for having isn't known nationally having

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Speaker 5: languished in obscurity with the four year win Cardinals last season,

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Speaker 5: but he was one of the league's best punters. He

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Speaker 5: had a fifty point six yard average along with a

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Speaker 5: punt less this year, Gillikin can bail them out when

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Speaker 4: Awesome, he could be all pro.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately it says Andrew Gillikin Arizona Cardinals. Okay, so in

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Speaker 5: one way they praised him, and the other way they

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Speaker 5: completely missed Blake Gillikin.

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Speaker 4: Who is the Cardinals punter currently?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Can I can you screenshot that? Send it to me?

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Speaker 3: And absolutely that is that till I put a chip

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Speaker 3: I'll show you I'm ann all pro.

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Speaker 2: I know there's no such thing as a bolton board

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Speaker 2: gonna to actually construct a bolton board, and we're gonna

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Speaker 5: When I saw the punter, I just thought of the

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Speaker 5: mixed emotions Paul Calvicu would have when they're suggesting that

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Speaker 2: You? Wow? Danny just putting me on the spot right

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Speaker 3: Look, I as I stayed today, Onda.

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Speaker 2: That's right. As we get into I least have until

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Speaker 3: Til the end of the podcast, we get some.

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation, just speaking a

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Speaker 2: list says, are there any contract holdouts this year for

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Speaker 4: Asan Reddick says, he's not coming.

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Speaker 2: But it's always good when the Jets trade for someone

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Speaker 5: Okay, Son Reddick and Brandon Auk do not play for

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Speaker 2: Don't look at me, Danny. That's your beat, that's the

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Speaker 3: If you ever listen to this podcast, he'd be like,

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Speaker 2: Danny needs her own mic, with her own mic flag

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Speaker 2: that John Gaines report that.

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Speaker 3: Right, she needs date, just a date. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: catch is gonna be did John Gaines wan to say?

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Speaker 3: And every day I'm gonna tweet no until it's yes.

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Speaker 3: I would not expect anyone to start on POPP or anything.

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Speaker 5: And then let's face it that there were two two

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Speaker 5: so obviously that's not a concern.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 5: Will be Okayky Collier has been doing everything anyway, So give.

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Speaker 2: Me a word to describe your feelings, your vibe, if

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Speaker 2: you will, right now going into camp. Jesse Luketta sat

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Speaker 3: For some reason, the first word that comes to mind

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Speaker 2: So this edition of Cardinals Underground brought to you by

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Speaker 2: the word sesame street style gnarly strew a little deeper, Danny.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the movie Fast Times of Ridgemont High?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: Because I've never heard of it?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, so you've never heard of Spiccoli. That was

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Speaker 2: his go to gnarly surfer. It's a surfer term.

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Speaker 2: No, you don't.

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Speaker 5: But it's that's how it hits us because we grew

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Speaker 3: So I will do I need to pick a new word.

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Speaker 5: See, here's the thing I used to I mean, it

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Speaker 3: So to start this podcast, and we're going to be

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Speaker 5: Did, I have been invited to watch what the Bachelorette?

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Speaker 5: Paul doesn't seem like the kind of guy that watches ALV.

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Speaker 5: He's reading literature.

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Speaker 2: I did just finish though Ripley, the series of Netflix.

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Speaker 2: It was recommended by my NYU film school brother who said,

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Speaker 5: But see that sounds like prestige TV, that's not trashy

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Speaker 5: TV that you're not embarrassed to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. I'm not wasting my time on it.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of shows based around people getting married

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Speaker 5: after a very short time together, only on television.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the family wants to know when the first

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Speaker 4: I feel like we've gotten off track. I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Here's my word to describe how I feel right now

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Speaker 2: going into this season. I'm gonna borrow word from Batman. Vengeance. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with vengeance. That's gonna be my word.

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Speaker 2: Stinking NFC West Cardinals. Oh, these teams in the NFC West, Okay,

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Speaker 2: though it's not being reflected in any of once again

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Speaker 2: And when they look under center and they say, a

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Speaker 2: talk about it, they've quote weeded those guys out, they

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Speaker 5: I will also say that spring training for baseball players

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Speaker 2: Little bit a little bit. It's just the visual. I guess,

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Speaker 2: you know what, if you're gonna bring your golf clothes,

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Speaker 3: Darren is saying that because the first thing he's going

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Speaker 2: Afternoon his pickleball paddle.

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Speaker 5: I don't have it pick a ball paddle, unlis, Unlike

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Speaker 3: I packed mine. We were staying right at the tennis

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Speaker 2: Sure you guys know where to go and everything, because

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Speaker 2: everything really is new around the organization, around the team. Correct,

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Speaker 5: I'm more comfortable around the wigwam and being knowing what

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Speaker 2: Some people using Google Maps to get around the building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it does feel I mean, look, you

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Speaker 3: Is it even that high? It's Gar Deck, Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 2: It's Jalen Thompson, Buddha Baker, Aaron Ber, Aaron Brewer. Right, Okay, four,

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Speaker 2: So think about that. Think about in the four draft

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Speaker 5: Well, and I had somebody bring this up to me

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and even the end of last season, it was

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Speaker 3: Do think when Paul you were mentioning the fight that

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Speaker 3: that were already here. Every move that's been made has

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Speaker 2: Everything you guys just said, give me summarized by my

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Speaker 4: That was the other That was another picture that I

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Speaker 3: That wasn't even what was top of my mind. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, and look, if I was trying to coach

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget that nobody got less out of the

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Speaker 2: And that was basically the question I asked Kyler Murray

439
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Speaker 2: at the end of his press conference not too long ago,

440
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Speaker 2: and he didn't even necessarily answer the question other than

441
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: to say that Marvin Arison Junior is that guy. That

442
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: was his answer. It's not a question mark to him.

443
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Marvin Irison Junior is wide receiver one already to Kyler Murray. Well,

444
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: now we all need to see it. He needs to

445
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: prove it, obviously, but he.

446
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Speaker 4: Doesn't need to prove it.

447
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 5: But I mean, you can't can't spend the fourth pick

448
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 5: on a person and not having be that guy. I mean,

449
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 5: even if you look at the quarterbacks picked ahead of

450
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Speaker 5: him and whenever they end up playing, you're picking him

451
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Speaker 5: that high. I mean, your intent is that he's gonna

452
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Speaker 5: be QB one, and Marvin Harrison better be wide receiver one,

453
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 5: and Joe allt better be left tackle one and all

454
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Speaker 5: these guys that went top ten. That said, I do

455
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Speaker 5: think because of his lineage and because of the way

456
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Speaker 5: he operates, I think he has a really good chance

457
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Speaker 5: to make that kind of impact. My question is, and

458
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Speaker 5: I know we've talked about it before, but like, does

459
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Speaker 5: he have to hit certain numbers for you to feel

460
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Speaker 5: like he is that guy? Or is it gonna be

461
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Speaker 5: the eye test? More Like, if he has nine hundred

462
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Speaker 5: and eighty yards receiving and ten touchdowns, is that can

463
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Speaker 5: he still be that guy?

464
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Speaker 2: Well, the ten touchdowns, I mean almost a thousand yards

465
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Speaker 2: receiving in a seventeen game season. Yeah, that's good. Pretty

466
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Speaker 2: pretty good. But if it's ten touchdowns, then absolutely the

467
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: numbers matter. But I'm more inclined to the eye tests

468
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: and more inclined to how defenses respect him, whether they

469
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: whether they take all the double coverage or trade. McBride

470
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Speaker 2: saw the second half of last season all of a sudden,

471
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Speaker 2: now it gravitates towards Marvel.

472
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Speaker 5: Well, don't don't forget that. What a thousand yards over

473
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Speaker 5: seventeen games is what sixty two sixty three yards a game?

474
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Speaker 5: It's not if Marvin Harrison gets sixty yards a game.

475
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Speaker 5: You know, depending you're not gonna be like WHOA. But again,

476
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Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think this is how it

477
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Speaker 5: all meshes together, in part because I do think this

478
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Speaker 5: team's gonna want to run. And the other thing you

479
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Speaker 5: know you mentioned is the defense isn't quite there, Danny,

480
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Speaker 5: And I'm thinking to myself, that is another reason why

481
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Speaker 5: you might want to run the ball and hold it

482
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Speaker 5: a little bit more to keep that defense off the field.

483
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Speaker 3: I think it's a combination. I would put quality over quantity,

484
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Speaker 3: and looking at Marvin Harrison Junior's upcoming rookie season, yes,

485
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Speaker 3: the numbers are important in finding the end zone or

486
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: stretching the field and getting those first downs. Absolutely. I

487
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: think the Cardinals again have been very intentional though, making

488
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: sure that you have enough of the right pieces so

489
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Speaker 3: you're not just having to go to one player the

490
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Speaker 3: whole game. Now, what I love is Harrison provides something

491
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Speaker 3: that it feels like this team has been missing since

492
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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins in terms of a reliable, consistent threat that

493
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Speaker 3: whether it's one on one or he's double teamed, Kyler

494
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Speaker 3: Murray can have that connection with him, He's going to

495
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Speaker 3: be able to find him and make those contested catches.

496
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Speaker 3: But I do like the fact that it seems like

497
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Speaker 3: you have enough of those pieces to where you're not

498
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Speaker 3: having to force something and you can find a Michael

499
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: Wilson or a Trey mcbrider, you can run the ball

500
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Speaker 3: with James Connor or Trey Benson or whatever the game

501
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Speaker 3: plan might be. I would expect that we see some

502
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Speaker 3: heavy numbers. I don't know if right out of the

503
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Speaker 3: gate necessarily, because even as poised and as we what

504
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Speaker 3: it sounds like is Harrison being ahead of the game

505
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Speaker 3: as what a typical rookie would be. I mean, there's

506
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Speaker 3: there's still an adjustment period to a certain extent. Now

507
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Speaker 3: it might be really short, it might be one game

508
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: or half a game, but I really would expect that

509
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: throughout the season. We see the numbers skyrocket with Harrison,

510
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Speaker 3: I really.

511
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Speaker 5: Love and Danny's now use it two or three times.

512
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Speaker 5: The intention intentionality the word the intentional of what this

513
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Speaker 5: team's trying to do, and it's really with Mania asin

514
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Speaker 5: for and I know one of the frustrations a lot

515
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 5: of fans had with the previous GM was it didn't

516
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 5: always seem cohesive on some of the moves, and it

517
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Speaker 5: might take a little bit longer to get to where

518
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Speaker 5: they want to be or whatever. But it does feel

519
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Speaker 5: like there is nothing that Mania Austin Ford does with

520
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: this roster that isn't intentional. And again, it might be

521
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 5: a little bit more of a slow roll with certain

522
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Speaker 5: spots or how it's looked at, Oh they didn't go

523
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Speaker 5: get a pass rusher this year, or whatever it might be.

524
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Speaker 5: But I think it's hard not to have that complete

525
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Speaker 5: trust that he knows that. And it's because of X,

526
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Speaker 5: Y and Z, which he's not going to go announce

527
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Speaker 5: because they're not going to say what their their ultimate

528
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Speaker 5: long term plans are.

529
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Speaker 4: But it feels like it's being done for reasons, and I.

530
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Speaker 3: Will say which I've mentioned, they're not how you know,

531
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Speaker 3: addressing the pass rush, and the second best way they

532
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: did by beefing up the defensive line and really putting

533
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: in a lot of and I don't want to keep

534
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: using that word intention but really putting attention. I guess

535
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: in the cornerbacks room, right like, if you're not going

536
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: to add a big pass rusher, what's the next best

537
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: thing you can do is try and alleviate some of

538
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: that pressure that's on them to produce multiple times a game,

539
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: which was a struggle near the end of last season.

540
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Speaker 3: So I do think that that again, the right moves

541
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: have been made for what they were able to do

542
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Speaker 3: in just a one year's time span.

543
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Speaker 2: And unlike the d line room, you had assets going

544
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: into the off season, in the edge rusher room, you

545
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: have the sixteenth pick over all, Zaman Collins in a

546
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: big year contract year prove it year, bjol Jalari, a

547
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: high second round pick from the year before, So you

548
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: do have capital invested into the outside linebacker. Unlike so,

549
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: you know, look to your point about the previous methodology,

550
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: we will from the previous GM too often there were

551
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: freaks taken in the first round. You didn't necessarily have

552
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: a position Dayoe Buchanan, Isaiah Simmons. You know there were

553
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: certain players who were driving Hassan Reddick freaks, great measurables,

554
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: could test through the roof. But where did they play?

555
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: Did they fit this system? What exactly you know? And

556
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: so you're right there does seem to be an absolute

557
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: knowledge of what they want, who they're targeting, not only

558
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: the sort of player, but the type of mindset every

559
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: one of these players. Would you guys agree or disagree?

560
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: Almost every single player has this similar mindset, this all

561
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: ball mindset. You don't get a bunch of guys running

562
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: their own social media accounts and worrying about their own

563
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: brand and their line of clothing. Most of these guys

564
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 2: are here to put their hand in the dirt and

565
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: try and rip someone's face mask off. And that's the

566
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: sort of player they're looking for. And to get back

567
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: to the whole Marvin Harrison Junior thing, that's how he's

568
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: being described. They had to back him off his own

569
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: his own workload, away from the facility and Danny you

570
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: mentioned DeAndre Hopkins. I stumbled onto this recently in twenty

571
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: twenty one, Kyler Murray's last Pro Bowl season. According to

572
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus, he threw forty one big time throws

573
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: in fourteen games to d hop That was second most

574
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: behind Tom Brady, who had forty two in seventeen games.

575
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: So if all of a sudden, Marvin Harrison Junior is

576
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: that deep threat, is that dude akin to a DeAndre

577
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Hopkins that Kyler Murray had the last time he was

578
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowler, which, by the way, they started seven

579
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: to zero and they ten and two, because what else

580
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: did they have a top ten run game with James

581
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Connors Pro Bowl season? That to me is one of

582
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: the most compelling storylines of this year.

583
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Speaker 3: And I don't mean that as comparing players, especially that

584
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: that's not fair, especially Harrison hasn't even stepped foot on

585
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Speaker 3: an episode Feld.

586
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: You got to compare Marvin to Larry fitzgu I.

587
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: Just I mean it as you have the size and

588
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: the strength, and you have the dexterity, and you have

589
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: all those skill sets that was very clear were lost

590
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: when DeAndre Hopkins was not on this team. That's what

591
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: I mean when I say that, that's what it feels

592
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: like having Harrison on this team.

593
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: Better.

594
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Speaker 2: I've had to go through some of the games, and

595
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: I started with late last season, right as I'm getting

596
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: ready to go all Paully play by play and make

597
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: everyone appreciate the top five play by play announce on

598
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: the planet. The day pass is because he makes the

599
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: look and sound easy and I most definitely do not.

600
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: And so I'm going through some of these games and

601
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: you forget that the Cardinals offense in the loss against

602
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: the Niners forty five twenty nine in the second half

603
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: of the season, the game where they ran for two

604
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: thirty four against the NFL's number one rank run defense,

605
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: where Fred Warner after the game was like, yeah, I

606
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. Okay, the number one linebacker in

607
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: the game and he had no clue. In that game,

608
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: the Cardinals had four hundred and thirty six yards of

609
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: total offense. Do you how many yards receiving? The receiver

610
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: room had twenty They had four catches on thirteen targets.

611
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: What week was that for twenty yards? That was week fifteen.

612
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: Oh, Hollywood was heard at that time.

613
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: Right.

614
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Speaker 3: There was a stretch. I remember it was like two

615
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Speaker 3: or three games where the leading receiver was a running

616
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Speaker 3: back or a tight end.

617
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Speaker 2: Yes, and so think about that, you had two thirty

618
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Speaker 2: four on the ground, Trey McBride had over one hundred

619
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Speaker 2: yards receiving in that game. You got Jack to the

620
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Speaker 2: squad out of your receiver room, and you still put

621
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Speaker 2: four hundred thirty six yards of total offense. Again, coming

622
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Speaker 2: back to my original question, what can wide receiver one

623
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Speaker 2: do for you in this offense? To me, that's what's

624
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: intriguing is when it's truly a balanced offense and you

625
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: can be what you need to be to be at

626
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: an opposing defense, which I think the Cardinals coordinators proved. Look,

627
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: that's the other thing that's complete unknown. How much better

628
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: did the first year coordinators get from a year ago

629
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Speaker 2: going into the season. How much better do they know

630
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Speaker 2: the division? Okay, Sean McVay, all right, because in these

631
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Speaker 2: head coach rankings, Kyle Shannan and Sean gavay are top

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: four or five and every single ranking.

633
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Speaker 4: And they've earned it.

634
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Speaker 2: They've absolutely earned it. I think we all have that

635
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: respect for the division opponents. So I just I find

636
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: those sort of anomalies and the numbers just to be

637
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: really intriguing when you look at last year and you

638
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: come into this year. In fact, here's another list and

639
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Speaker 2: then I'm going to be done with this. NFL dot

640
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Speaker 2: Com the biggest single challenge for every team going into

641
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Speaker 2: this season?

642
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Speaker 3: What is it for the Cardinals?

643
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Speaker 2: Tell me you guys, take a guess what an NFL

644
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Speaker 2: dot Com assert is the biggest challenge slash threat that

645
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: might undermine every team. And when it comes to the Cardinals,

646
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: it would be the pass rush, whose cornerback D line?

647
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh they listed D line just.

648
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: Based on is it so many new faces.

649
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Speaker 2: The inability to stop the run in twenty twenty three. Yes,

650
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: all the new faces, money invested, first round rookie.

651
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: Can't be upset with that. I think that's totally valid.

652
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, you go into that, you look at

653
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: the Eagles win from a year ago. Not only did

654
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: they come back from twenty one to six down at halftime,

655
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Speaker 2: but they give up a lot of rushing yards. It's

656
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: still found a way to win that game. So again,

657
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: to me, the question on offense, what happens if you

658
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: add that receiver? The question on defense, what happens if

659
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: you're at least middle of the pack and run defense.

660
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: Well, And not only did they improve the quality of

661
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: the defensive line. I feel like they have more. There's

662
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: they're numbers, it's it's quality and quantity that they attacked

663
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: to the point where I'm gonna be curious to know

664
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: how many guys make the fifty three man roster and

665
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: who they might be, because if you go and take

666
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: the tack that you did last year, there's probably going

667
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: to be at least one veteran that isn't on the

668
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: fifty three. I mean, what do they normally have five

669
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: active on game days? So you're probably gonna want six

670
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 5: on the roster. I would think at least.

671
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you're going Blall Nichols and Justin

672
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: Jones first team, second team, Darius Robinson, LJ Collier, and

673
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: then Dante Still's and Roy Lopez.

674
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: Kyrie's Tonga who they brought.

675
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: In, That's what I'm saying, Like the numbers say somebody and.

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Stilly who's here last year?

677
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: I mean again, you have the practice squad ability and

679
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 5: you can have veterans on the practice squad, but you're

680
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: also cutting somebody. But again this goes back to what

681
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: this goes back to when you start building a roster,

682
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: this is exactly what you want. You want a hard

683
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 5: decisions when you're cutting the roster and you want guys

684
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: that quite frankly, have a chance to get picked up

685
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: somewhere else if you get rid of them, because it

686
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: means you've got really good players. Now, I know, you know,

687
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 5: we know all these people because we're around this team

688
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: and we see it. You know, the casual fan is

689
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: gonna go, They're gonna hear three or four of those

690
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: names and go, Okay, we're none of those guys are

691
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald. But again, I feel like with what we

692
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: saw from the defense last year in terms of how

693
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 5: Nick Rallis approached it, I just it really feels and

694
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: please correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like

695
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: the way Gannon and Rallis want to operate this defense.

696
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: You want playmakers, but it feels like they put together

697
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: a defense that is usually the sum is greater than

698
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 5: the parts type thing.

699
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: And it's a good way to put it well, and honestly,

700
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: it better be because you don't have a lot of

701
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: name players on this defense beyond Buddha Baker. Right. So,

702
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: speaking of the Man of Miss I've dubbed him Mac

703
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Wilson's senior. Does he know you've dubbed him this absolutely

704
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: not no, and he will not know Kapeche when he's

705
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: when he's talking about how he is an unknown that

706
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: people you know around the league have no idea what

707
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: he can do. That he had to tell Coach Belichick

708
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: once they had massive injuries in New England late last season. Hey, hello,

709
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: I can pass rush, Give me a shot. Put me in, Coach,

710
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: I can play. And then he got his shot and

711
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: he had three straight games with a sack, and Kyle

712
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: Vanderbosh on the red Seer board, three time Pro Bowl

713
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: edge rusher, talking about, Hey, his film's legit. When Kyle

714
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: Vanabush took a closer look at mac Wilson Senior. So

715
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: to me, I'm really intrigued. We talk about pass rush,

716
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: right and the obvious dire need. You got to get

717
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: more sacks, you got to get more pressures, okay, b

718
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 2: Jo Juli Zaman Collins, mac Wilson Senior. I'm really curious,

719
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: and we won't know in August, but when we get

720
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: to set September, how are they going to use him?

721
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think that's exciting. I don't

722
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: what's realistic. How often do you see him stack in

723
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: the box, are coming off the edge or blitzing, you

724
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like it is an exciting threat

725
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: and aspect that he brings to this defense. I just

726
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: what is realistic of what you would expect to see

727
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: him rushing the passer in a game?

728
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: What I was writing that story the other day when

729
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: he talked after you talk to us, talked to the media.

730
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: I find it interesting that if you go backwards, you know,

731
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty two to twenty one the last three years,

732
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 5: he played twenty seven percent of the defensive snaps in

733
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: New England, than twenty one percent the year before, and

734
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: then twenty one percent the year before in Cleveland. It's

735
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: not like he's played a lot of defensive snaps, you know.

736
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: And I think that the number jumped a little bit

737
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: because of the pass rush thing. Because of the injuries,

738
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: he's going to be asked to play a lot more

739
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: on defense. He did start as a as a rookie

740
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: in Cleveland and played a lot of the insis naps,

741
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: but after that it fell off. And it's it's fascinating

742
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 5: to me because I have gotten that sense that they

743
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: really like him around here and what he does can

744
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: really pop off. So why was he not getting the snaps?

745
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: Now that said, we go back to the intentionality of

746
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 5: what this team is doing. I feel like they're going

747
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: and getting players that might very well pop in their

748
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: system more than any other system perhaps. And I feel like,

749
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: you know, Kaizer White was a little and ka people

750
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 5: knew Kaizer White, but I think he fits so well

751
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 5: on what they were doing last year. And mac Wilson

752
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: feels like another one of those guys. We're like, Okay,

753
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: you haven't really heard a lot about him before he

754
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 5: gets here. He's right, not a lot of people have

755
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 5: heard about him. I know I hadn't, and but I

756
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: like the idea it's okay if you have a chip

757
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 5: on the shoulder. But there's a little bit of self

758
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: awareness there, like he understands why people haven't too so.

759
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: And here's his quote, I just knew I always had

760
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: it athletically talking about rushing the passer. I can bend.

761
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: I can do a lot of things people don't know.

762
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: I feel like I can't be stopped, especially on the edge.

763
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: If I get a good get off, it's wraps. But

764
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: his body type. To answer your question, why wasn't he

765
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: given an opportunity? I think there's a little bit of

766
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: the Hassan reddic itis, if you will. They look at

767
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: his body type and they say, oh, you're an inside linebacker.

768
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: You're not big enough to play the edge. And of course,

769
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: once they put Hasan Reddick back to the edge where

770
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: he's an All American, a Temple look out, he ended up,

771
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: you know, having a Pro Bowl caliber season. I'm not

772
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: projecting double digit sacks or Mac Wilson Senior, but on

773
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: a team that needs various threats where it could be

774
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: wide open to compete and get into a rotation to

775
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: rush the passer. Badrew b Joe Jilari, Dennis Gardek, Zavon Collins,

776
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: and Mac Wilson Senior, I could easily see that.

777
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: And Zavion Collins has talked a lot about how much

778
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 5: they've used them at outside linebacker not rushing. They like

779
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 5: Xavion Collins a lot and the things he does as

780
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: an outside linebacker not rushing the passer. So his his

781
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: rushing the passer numbers might never be gaudy, but it's

782
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: because they like doing other things. And again, when we

783
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: talk about Zavon Collins, we talk about Mac Wilson, we

784
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: talk about all these people, it seems like it's a

785
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: cliche when coaches talk about the versatility, but man Nick

786
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: Rolis really puts it into you know, actual action on

787
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: the field.

788
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: Well and again, if they have a six foot six

789
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: playmaking tight end, who's checking that guy? That's always the

790
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: toughest matchup for any defense who's running with an athletics

791
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: six foot six tight end. Oh sorry, Collins, you.

792
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: Have said his name more this podcast.

793
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: Then Xavin Collins is athletic enough if there was a

794
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: reason why he's taking sixteenth overall that he's pretty decent

795
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: in coverage. Yeah, He's made his share of plays in coverage,

796
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: both on backs and tight end. So to your point

797
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: about Nick Rowsis, yeah, I could see that as his

798
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: job assignmon, no doubt about that. All right. So look,

799
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: you're going into this camp, Danny, and what other aspects

800
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: are you looking at early in this camp? What other

801
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: storylines do you think people are sleeping on that you're

802
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: waiting to develop when you get out there.

803
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 3: We're gonna say sleeping on. That means I can't say

804
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: cornerback because that is low hanging fruit.

805
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: Oh, we're all about the low hanging fruit.

806
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: I would probably say if you want, like a sleeper

807
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: story is the running backs room and what that is

808
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: going to shake out to look like. Of they liked

809
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: Michael Carter, that's a good one who is physically and

810
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: I think a skill set different than a James Connor.

811
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: You bring in Trey Benson as a higher draft pick

812
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: this year, who is more similar to Connor. You still

813
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: have a Mari de Mercato who looked pretty good in

814
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: the opportunities he had last year. You signed DJ Dallas.

815
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: Is that more for special teams? I think it is

816
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: not one of the more pressing stories because Connor's coming

817
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: off a thousand yard season when he missed four and

818
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: a half what five games, So it's not pressing the

819
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: way no pun intended a cornerback battle is. But I

820
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: do think it will be interesting how that shakes out

821
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: and kind of what the plan is in terms of

822
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: maybe lighting the workload from Connor. If that's the planner,

823
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: maybe it's not the plan. I think that that would

824
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: probably be one of the sleeper storylines is seeing how

825
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: this running backs room shakes out, because, similar to the

826
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: D line, I don't think they're all going to make

827
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: the roster. I think it's too many right now.

828
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: If I had to pick something it would be and

829
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: we talk so much about our mandatory Marvin, but staying

830
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: in that room, I want to see what Michael Wilson

831
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: looks like this year. I think Michael Wilson played really

832
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: well when he started getting his feet underneath him, and

833
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 5: especially once Kyler Murray came back and they started getting that,

834
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: and then Michael Wilson was dealing with the injuries. And

835
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 5: one of the last things he said last year, and

836
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it, I think I asked him something

837
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: about do you ever have statistical goals at some point

838
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: that you want to reach in a season, and he said, seventeen.

839
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 5: I want to play seventeen games now if he stays healthy.

840
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: I love his mindset. I don't think you're gonna find

841
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: a guy that works harder than he does. He spent

842
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 5: a ton of time with Kyler this offseason trying to

843
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: get that chemistry. You're gonna have Marvin on the other

844
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: side of people are gonna have to worry about and

845
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to worry about Trey McBride. I'm not

846
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: gonna sit here and say Michael Wilson's gonna go out

847
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: and get twelve hundred yards, but I do think he

848
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: can become if he again stays healthy, he is going

849
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 5: to be a serious threat. And if he takes the

850
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 5: kind of jump I think he can and McBride continues

851
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 5: his trend, and Marvin Harrison Junior can be all that.

852
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean, they're gonna have a hell of a pass

853
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 5: catching corps out of nowhere. And I keep thinking we

854
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 5: talked about the the rankings. I mean, the Texans at

855
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 5: this time last year, we're all counting on them to

856
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 5: being so bad that the Cardinals are going to get

857
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 5: a number one overall pick. And if you look at

858
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: all the rankings before last season, they were nowhere, including

859
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 5: the receiving corps. And now if you go look, I

860
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 5: think some recent raking had their receiving core. Now they

861
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: did get Stefan Diggs in addition, but has the receiving

862
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: court at like like the third best in the league.

863
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if the Cardinals make that kind of jump,

864
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 5: but I think if Michael Wilson plays the way he can,

865
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 5: I think they can really really open a lot of eyes.

866
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: I mean, if Michael Wilson makes half the surgeon year

867
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: two that Trey McBride did last year. Think about what

868
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: that can do for the offense. And if there's one

869
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: thing that I'm most bullsh about with Michael Wilson is

870
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: that he makes the contested catch. He's not a burner.

871
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: He's quick enough, he's not a burner. So but at

872
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: his size, he can make that contested catch in traffic.

873
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: And he showed that as early as Week four when

874
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: he had that big game against the forty nine ers

875
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: and the loss at Santa Clara. So that to me

876
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: is half the battle because he's going to need to

877
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: do that with his size. And then of course he's

878
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: won again in his favorites because he's a willing and

879
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: capable blocker.

880
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 5: Yes, and that again stuff you're not going to see

881
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: in the stat line, like we talked about with Marvin

882
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: if he pulls defenders away. Michael Wilson is huge in

883
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: the run game, and that's another reason he needs to

884
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: stay healthy because he helps that part.

885
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: Of the game so much. What's your sleeper over there?

886
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: You got one sleeper? Are you?

887
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: Are you two to another?

888
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: Uh? No, good question in that one. I mean I've

889
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: already named a few of the guys like Mac Wilson

890
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: Senior I think is most definitely a sleeper. I will

891
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: say this towards the end of camp and I had

892
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: a chance to interact with some of the offensive weapons

893
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: and some of the receivers at some of these community events,

894
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: and they're really bullsh on Max Melton. Okay, they're like

895
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: Max Melton. He's got the skill set definitely as the

896
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: compete he's experienced from college four years basically starting for Rutgers.

897
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, but wait a minute. He went against

898
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: some of the best receivers over in the game right

899
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: now over the last four years in college, and so

900
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: based on the fact he fits well in this scheme,

901
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: there's a reason once again they targeted to Max Melton.

902
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon knows his corners. So I'm really and you

903
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: know what, in camp, when guys are working against receivers,

904
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's full contact or not. You

905
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: can tell a lot about a corner and whether they

906
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: can keep up with certain receivers just in routes and

907
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: different drills, and so my eyes are definitely gonna go

908
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: to a Max Malton because Starley Thomas heck of a deal,

909
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: but he was undrafted rookie last year. Key Trall Clark

910
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: I'm confused on Key Troll Clark. Honestly with you there,

911
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to think. I could see

912
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: him excelling a year two. I mean, he's been nosed

913
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: to the grindstone and to hear him talk, he's saying

914
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: all the right things, and I think there is definitely

915
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: some skill there. But it was such an up and

916
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: down rookie season. I don't know what to think on

917
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: Keytrall Clark.

918
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: It almost feels like an uphill battle when you look

919
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: at how many cornerbacks were drafted.

920
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it did. It feels a little bit like if

921
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 5: they if they had a lot of belief in Keichoe Clark,

922
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 5: they wouldn't have spent So now they had twelve picks,

923
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: you're gonna throw a bunch out there and see what.

924
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: One ends up stick.

925
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: Not necessarily every pick's even gonna make the final fifty three.

926
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you're right, But I'm with you on Key Trow Clark.

927
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see. But again, if Melton's that

928
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: guy that that's a huge, again intentional pick. Everybody gnashed

929
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 5: their teeth on draft day about how they didn't pick

930
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: cornerback X or cornerback Y. If Max Meltons, is that

931
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 5: guy mine he's gonna, you know, do a celebratory dance.

932
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy Bunting, Max Melton, and then Garrett Williams and

933
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: then depending how Rabbit ends up in camp, there's there's

934
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: another guy or he's not gonna see much plenty time

935
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: obviously in front of Buddha Baker or Jalen Thompson. But

936
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: if needed, could he be that slot corner and then

937
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Garrett Williams at times kicks outside. At least that you

938
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: have options we'll see. I don't know.

939
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't see that. I don't know. I know we

940
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: haven't gotten told a definitive answer. Picking up on context clues,

941
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it is in the game plan to

942
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: move Garrett Williams outside. And I don't think that's because

943
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that's because they don't think he can

944
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: handle it. I think they just like him that much. Inside.

945
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

946
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: I do know this training camp tickets and parking are

947
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948
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Speaker 2: X after Azycardinals dot Com. There you go for that one, Darren.

952
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Speaker 2: Come on, you have your all access pass to the

953
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: entirety you know of the I mean you can go

954
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: behind the velvet ropes wherever you want on State Farm

955
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: State Farm Stadium. We know how that works. Okay, it's

956
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: going to.

957
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: Be not even working in the press boxes here. He's

958
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: going to be posted up in one of those casitos

959
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 3: or luxury seating areas.

960
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: But because nobody likes it, at least based on our

961
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: audience research, and we're nice to Darren. We're gonna finish

962
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: with a flourish here and we're gonna go through and

963
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: rip his top questions heading into twenty twenty four training

964
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: camp at Ezycardinals dot Com. Danny, we need full commentary

965
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: here from the top. Number one question for Darren. How

966
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: big of a season will Kyler Murray have? Okay, everything

967
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: starts ends with the quarterback it is, and if he

968
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: does have a big time yere guess what. You can

969
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: have a lot of flaws, but a Pro Bowl caliber

970
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: quarterback can cover up in a race a lot of

971
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: shortcomings on a lot of teams. We've seen it over

972
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: the years Aaron Rodgers has done it with a bunch

973
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: of nobody's in the receiver room. Patrick Mahomes just did

974
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: it with one of the worst receiving groups the entirety

975
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: of the regular season, just went repeat on a Super

976
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: Bowl title. So I don't think we get march argument

977
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: on that number two. What is the immediate impact of

978
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior? Okay, and you mentioned Larry Fitzgerald seven

979
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty receiving yards in his rookie year. You

980
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: forget he's sort of had a kind of a meh, right, eh,

981
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Can I get away with that? Can I get away

982
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: with that?

983
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 5: And and by the way, for anybody saying, well, An

984
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 5: Kwan Bolden was on that team, missed the first six

985
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 5: games Larry's rookie season because of a knee injury, So

986
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: it's not like was out there catching every ball.

987
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: Okay, who will slide in next to new left tackle

988
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson junior?

989
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: Evan Brown?

990
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: Why exactly have we installed.

991
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 5: Evro Like you said that same thing last week's podcast,

992
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: is the clubhouse Leader, because that's.

993
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: What it appears from the line.

994
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: Everybody.

995
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 5: Everybody loves Evan Brown. Have you have you listened to

996
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 5: these players talking about Evan Brown here here.

997
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: Why I need to give you a track record in

998
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: NFL history of dudes who are just monsters in the

999
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 2: weight room aren't necessarily monsters on the field.

1000
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: And you think you think it would be who see

1001
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: that that? I I That's where I'm confused. I mean,

1002
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: how the rarity the rarity of what round was he

1003
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: drafted third? I just feel like the rarity of having

1004
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman that is ready to come in. I

1005
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 3: know that around him are veterans, and that makes it

1006
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: a lot easier when you've got someone like yell To

1007
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: Froholt next to you at center and first move to

1008
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: the left side, but he's played their form Paris Johnson

1009
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Junior now as your left tackle. To me, it just

1010
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: typically pans out to where a rookie offensive lineman does

1011
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: not a see the field their rookie year or b

1012
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: not until later on, until they can really get adjusted

1013
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: to the speed of the game and getting a little

1014
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: stronger and making sure that their fundamentals are meeting the

1015
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: standards that are required to play in this league. And

1016
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: so I think it makes sense that if you bring

1017
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: in a veteran like Evan Brown, that would be his

1018
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: position to lose right now.

1019
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: His number is seventy eight and his nickname is Big Mo.

1020
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: And when the Carbinals have an open practice here soon

1021
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: and they actually get eleven on eleven, and when Big

1022
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: Mo is getting first team reps, I want both of

1023
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: you to tweet it out. I'm just gonna leave that

1024
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: right there.

1025
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: We're allowed to tweet out who's taking first team rep.

1026
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 5: That would be a little bit of an upset because

1027
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: he's one of the few guys that is still here

1028
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: from the previous regime in terms of a draft.

1029
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: Pick, Big Mo. That's another one of Darren's questions. We

1030
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: already covered cornerbacks we advance. Does Darius Robinson earn a

1031
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: starting role that's intriguing.

1032
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: Yes, but but not in training camp.

1033
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 2: He's not out of the gate, right.

1034
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: I just think when you look at the depth and

1035
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Blon Nichols and Justin Jones and LJ. Coller even maybe

1036
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: I think you're going to, don't get it twisted. You're

1037
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: going to see a lot of Darius Robinson. I think

1038
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 3: you're just going to see more of him in the rotation,

1039
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: maybe as a starter when you get later into the season.

1040
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't and I don't think he's not capable of

1041
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: being a starter. That's not what I'm saying of He's

1042
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: not going to earn it at camp by any means.

1043
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: I just think he's He's two far down the depth

1044
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: chart right now.

1045
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Our next question from Darren top questions going into Cardinals

1046
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: camp twenty twenty four. Can the running back room take

1047
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: the rushing game to another level? We cover that a

1048
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: little bit earlier. Michael Carter. You know, so you got thunder,

1049
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 2: thunder and lightning. It's not thunder and lightning. It's thunder,

1050
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: thunder and lightning. When it's James Counter, Trey Benson and

1051
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Michael Carter. That's the best case scenario we'll see that

1052
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: comes to fruition. Next question, is bj Ojalai the breakout

1053
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: pass rusher of the Cardinals need? Cardinals definitely have a need.

1054
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: Is he the guy? We'll find out? He did get

1055
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: our Rex Ryan Award for winning the off season b

1056
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: j o Jela for putting on extra weight and muscle.

1057
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: And I know you say that, but every time you

1058
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: say the Rex Ryan Award, it's never what I think

1059
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna say.

1060
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: Ever, So I'm comfortable pause. Okay, here's the name that

1061
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 2: hasn't been mentioned yet tip Ryman. Tip Ryman, will he

1062
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: again with Trey McBride at tight end. Yes, there's no doubt.

1063
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: I don't have this. Dave Sears assistant GM, who's on

1064
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: in the offseason a big red Rage said the Cardinals

1065
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: of Memory Serves led the NFL in thirteen personnel last year.

1066
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: So yes, tip Ryman's going to get a lot of

1067
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: snaps and he's gonna question is will you be part

1068
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: of the passing game? Because if you want a sleeper

1069
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: and you're under the you know you're into the very

1070
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: end of your fantasy football draft and you want someone,

1071
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: you might want to look at tip Ryman as a

1072
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: pass catcher because from all accounts, he was totally ignored

1073
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: at Illinois and he went to the Shrine game. He's

1074
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: a pretty polished route runner. His athleticism score once again

1075
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: upset in a Million Times was ahead of Brock Bowers,

1076
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: and they really like the ease with which he can

1077
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: catch the football. In the offseason, he's more of a

1078
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: natural pass catcher than he got credit for. So just

1079
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: keep that in mind for you fantasy football GM. What

1080
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: does the tandem of Kaiser White and Mac Wilson Senior

1081
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: provide Darren poses that question. We sort of covered that.

1082
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: There's no doubt the last seven games of Cardinals defense

1083
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Speaker 2: wasn't nearly what it was with Kaiser White. We all

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: agree on that one. And then Buddha Baker. Can the

1085
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: splash return to the game of Buddha Baker? That is

1086
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: a money question, right there was it?

1087
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Speaker 4: I'm getting the sense you like all my questions.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, was it the offensive game plans of

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00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: avoiding Buddha Baker or does Buddha Baker have something to

1090
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: prove this year when he didn't have a single interception

1091
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: or a pass breakup, it's just conspicuous by the zeros

1092
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: in those stat columns. He still was one among the

1093
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: team leaders and tackles even though he missed four games.

1094
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: But okay, what about Buddha Baker. You know in the

1095
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: highlight reel, we didn't see a whole bunch of that

1096
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: last year. And once again, there were plenty of games

1097
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: where he was told because I was there on the

1098
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: field after the game and posing players came up and said, hey,

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: number three, we weren't going your way. You were the

1100
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: X factor. Our quarterback broke the uddle said, where's Buddha.

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Speaker 2: We're going the other way? Okay, But if now it's

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00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: not so easy because you fortify the defensive line, you

1103
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Speaker 2: have a pair of stout inside linebackers. All of a sudden,

1104
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: the corners are more reliable, all of a sudden, Maybe

1105
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: you can, if you're Nick Ross, dial up Buddha Baker

1106
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: and he can be more that X factor to get

1107
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: into position to make those plays we all became accustomed to.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was an apt observation. There any

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00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: other questions, Danny, that you know you put into Darren's

1110
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Speaker 2: mail bag or suggestion box that he ignored or or

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Speaker 2: failed to include.

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Speaker 3: I thought this whole point was going to be to

1113
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: try to take Darren down. All you did was compliment

1114
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: his questions and answers.

1115
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: Well, I was waiting for you to maybe do bad

1116
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: good cop, bad Cob. What you know, where was the

1117
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: where was the bad cop?

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Speaker 3: Finger at me?

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Speaker 2: You know, I looked at my own audience research. I

1120
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Speaker 2: can't always be the bad guy around here. You know,

1121
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: I got occasion everybody before we.

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00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: Start recording, so I can be on the same page

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Speaker 3: as you.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, we'll get into the dog days of camp

1125
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Speaker 2: two weeks from now, and there will be a certain edge.

1126
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: Everyone will be in a bad one that reminds me,

1127
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Speaker 3: so we can't expect your list later this week.

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Speaker 2: I see, so, okay, so you still won't training the

1129
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: negativity on Darren, but here it comes full full blast

1130
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Speaker 2: at me. Okay, all right, So I'm trying to refresh

1131
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Speaker 2: my own memory as to as to my own protocol.

1132
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna come out. I think I'm gonna go

1133
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Speaker 2: with three candidates on offense, three on defense, and then

1134
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Speaker 2: we'll narrow it down by the first full padded practice

1135
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Speaker 2: as to who your polypig skin breakout player camp is

1136
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Speaker 2: on each side of the ball. Fair enough? Do we

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00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: are in agreement on that? Danny? Is that good enough

1138
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Speaker 2: for you?

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 3: I agree that's good enough for me.

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Speaker 2: I might have to get written approval from Danny on

1141
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: that one, so I just to be sure. Okay, next

1142
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Speaker 2: stop Cardinals training camp.

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Speaker 3: See y'all from State Firm Stadium.

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