WEBVTT - Selects: The Duality of Caffeine

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. It's your friendly neighborhood co host Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take you back in time to January fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, when we spoke at length about caffeine and

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<v Speaker 1>the ups literally and the downs literally. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>duality of caffeine. I hope you enjoy over your cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Bryant. Jerry's over there totally throwing us off with

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<v Speaker 2>some new as you focus pocus, Yeah, twenty sixteen head stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, Yeah, she's messing with it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we you guys don't know this because, through the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the magic of editing and publishing and publishing,

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<v Speaker 1>you think we've just never been gone from the office.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we've been gone. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>episodes we released. I've been so out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I took six weeks of paternity leave woo.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did by proxy and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did by proxy. Yeah. So we've been gone from the

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<v Speaker 1>studio for a while. And I just wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>it's glad to be back, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is nice to be back. Then, it's good

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<v Speaker 2>to see you again. It's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happened in the In the meantime, I lost another tooth? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my stupid front the tooth next to the one that

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<v Speaker 1>came out broke off at a Falcon's game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well there you go. God was cursing you for

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<v Speaker 2>being at the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have another stupid flipper and another eight months

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<v Speaker 1>of eight months early, yeah, until I get the permanent implant.

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<v Speaker 1>So again I'll be out on tour with no tooth.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't even see it, like you have to literally

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<v Speaker 2>like or your gums back, or your lips back to

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<v Speaker 2>your gums.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if I laugh a lot, which I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>just lead a more somber life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I plan on making you laugh a lot on

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<v Speaker 2>stage so people might see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what else? You got a dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got a puppy named Momo. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Momo? Momo is very sweet. She's a sweet

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<v Speaker 2>little Shizu poodle mixture.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that going.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a little fluff ball, very good house trained or yes,

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<v Speaker 2>good right off the bat. We crate trained her. At first,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, crates are mean now they put a

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<v Speaker 2>dog and crane, And then I started to read up

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<v Speaker 2>on it. It was like, yes, it's like her den.

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<v Speaker 2>It's her little room, like her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, when we took away the crate from our

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<v Speaker 1>youngest dog, Charlie because of, uh, we needed a breakfast nook,

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<v Speaker 1>she was kind of like, dude, you took my room away.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my room. Yeah. We plan to keep her

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<v Speaker 2>crate around, like as long as she wants it, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but just she won't be penned in it against her

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<v Speaker 2>will at certain times until until she's house broken, which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she's basically there. It's just we're we're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? You're about to pee?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't actually have accidents in the house. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, staying on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. What else happened? We had holidays, yes, good Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>In the New Year's I guess Yumy's birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and it was just a nice time off.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I had this big to do list, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>none of it got done because it was raising a

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<v Speaker 2>puppy replaced that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how's your kid? Ruby's great man and I did

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I had a big to do list

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<v Speaker 1>and found myself just kind of being like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>could you do this? Or I could just like play with.

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<v Speaker 2>My kid, right, or watch Making a Murderer? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>did watch all that to do same here. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>like a day, we'll talk about that. Okay, we probably

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>People want us to do a podcast on that, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a follow up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's not as bad as the requests to do

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast on the case that Cereal covered, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think Cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>Got that one cover. Oh of course, I could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do a follow up on Making of a Murder.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should revisit Exonerations in the Innocence Project

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<v Speaker 2>again because when we did that one, we had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what was going on, and now it's really like

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<v Speaker 2>it's really coming through true. So yes, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>What ell oh, I've been playing a lot of uh

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<v Speaker 1>I got a PS four. Oh yeah, I've been playing

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<v Speaker 1>Fallout four.

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<v Speaker 2>With the dog and their dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can have a dog companion, so of course

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<v Speaker 1>I chose it. Okay, but it's really awful because the

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<v Speaker 1>dog gets hurt a lot and like struggles around whimpering

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<v Speaker 1>and bleeding.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to put it out of its misery.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, you can heal the dog. But I went

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<v Speaker 1>to message boards and everyone's like, don't heal your dog, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just trust me, it'll heal itself. Don't waste your medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, I'm sure you waste your medicine every time,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it's tough to hear the sake dog whip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like, oh, be okay, don't mind me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog meat that's his name.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a that was a big time off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we just covered it and that's all that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry, how about you? That was great, Jerry. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you had a nice time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry also had a nice break with her little baby

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<v Speaker 1>in this.

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<v Speaker 2>She told us this through a series of blinks she

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<v Speaker 2>did that we've worked out over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, nice job, all right. So sorry about the long intro,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt like we needed to catch everyone up,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you didn't know that you needed it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe I had something to do with caffeine, because.

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<v Speaker 2>We did such a good job when we recorded those

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<v Speaker 2>ones that were released over the break of predicting things

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<v Speaker 2>we would be talking about at the time. Yeah, who

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<v Speaker 2>could tell exactly. So I'm a little caffeinated right now,

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>What a shock.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink nearly as much as coffee as I

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<v Speaker 2>used to. Yeah, it's because I really realized, like it

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<v Speaker 2>really does have a detrimental effect on my mood. Oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>say in the car cars are really good example of

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<v Speaker 2>me and caffeine.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a little ramped up in the car anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>that probably didn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I'm working on that. But part of

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<v Speaker 2>working on that is just, you know, not drinking as

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<v Speaker 2>much coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think a good title for this could be

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<v Speaker 1>mixed messages because in studying caffeine, and we did one

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<v Speaker 1>on coffee, we dabbled in this a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>all the research is, you know, caffeine, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>really good for you and help a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and caffeine can be kind of bad for you, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of both or can be both.

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<v Speaker 2>It sure seems like that unless we have like a

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<v Speaker 2>completely misunderstood model of addiction and the parasympathetic or sympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system. Unless we don't know those things. Then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>coffee is both, for sure. The weird thing is, like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody realizes that coffee, I'm sorry, caffeine. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna do that a lot in this episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they are virtually interchangeable. Sure, but it's not really

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<v Speaker 2>but caffeine it is. It has a lot of really

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<v Speaker 2>bad effects on you, and a lot of people know

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<v Speaker 2>that just from having a experienced it. You're right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the it's the beneficial effects that are so surprising. They

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<v Speaker 2>do seem to like you say, agreed, So Chuck, I

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<v Speaker 2>drink today. I've had five cups of coffee and Mount

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<v Speaker 2>Die mountain dew.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is one forty in the afternoon. Right, what

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<v Speaker 1>time did you get up?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm counting on my fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Six and a half hours. You six and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You've had five cups of coffee in a mountain dew, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's cutting back?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Oh man, Yeah, And it's cutting back because I

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<v Speaker 2>like this afternoon. I won't keep going, Oh so you stop?

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<v Speaker 2>This is this will be my last probably really.

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<v Speaker 1>For the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, And I'm actually I'm above average for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, and I could have guessed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the average for the.

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<v Speaker 2>United States is actually on the woos end of the

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<v Speaker 2>spectrum as far as like caffeine consumption goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look, the latest information I got this that

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<v Speaker 1>the US was sixteenth in the world in per capita consumption.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not even tenth or ninth or any anywhere above tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to know who leads the world right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the Netherlands, is what I found.

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<v Speaker 2>I found Finland. Oh really, uh huh from twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the most recent I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the most recent I saw said the Netherlands at

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<v Speaker 1>two point four, with Finland at one point eight. But

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<v Speaker 1>that is not what I saw. Really, Yeah, where were

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands on your list?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I just saw the that Finland was

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<v Speaker 2>number one at like two point four oh wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>like nine point six kilograms of coffee beans per person

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<v Speaker 2>per year consumed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I bet the top ten is kind of interchangeable

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<v Speaker 1>and fairly static though, sure, as in the Samish countries

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<v Speaker 1>in different orders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean coffee consumption patterns, I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>could change fairly rapidly, but they don't change in the

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<v Speaker 2>blink of an eye. Well, think about how much Starbucks

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<v Speaker 2>change coffee consumption in this country?

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<v Speaker 1>Did it ramp it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah? Like think about how many people now swing

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<v Speaker 2>by Starbucks are like three pm, whereas before they may

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<v Speaker 2>not even have drank coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't you mean Charbucks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, actually have no skin in the game Starbucks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know me, I don't drink caffeine that much.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I'm very mellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I'm starting to think I should

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<v Speaker 1>drink more coffee though. Why because of the health benefits?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know, we'll see, we'll get into all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the top ten you have a Netherlands, Finland, Sweden,

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<v Speaker 1>in Mark, Germany, Scandinavia loves her coffee apparently, yeh, Slovakia, Serbia,

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<v Speaker 1>Czech Republic, Poland, Norway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Than eventually the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold countries not bad, although Brazil loves its coffee as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're like number ten or eleven or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good coffee. I didn't see they weren't even in my

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<v Speaker 1>top sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had different lists made by two different caffeinated weirdos.

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<v Speaker 1>So the US, the FDA and the AMA Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they raised it to four hundred milligrams a

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<v Speaker 1>day from three hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in that race of changing coffee consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's now to four hundred milligrams a day,

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<v Speaker 1>as they said, should be like the upper limit of

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<v Speaker 1>what you should drink and what is cool to drink

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<v Speaker 1>for your health, right, not by being cool. You could

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<v Speaker 1>drink one hundred cups a day and you'd be super cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's why I'd drink coffee so much. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be cool. And so so what is that

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred milligrams a day? That's about two eight ounce

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<v Speaker 2>cups of coffee? Four hundred is yes, like high high octane,

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<v Speaker 2>right coffee. But yeah, it's no more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe three Well, and that's caffeine though, that's not coffee, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you might also be drinking sodas or eating chocolate, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>or eating on a cocoa nib.

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<v Speaker 2>That's packed with caffeine. Yeah. Yeah, it does show up

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<v Speaker 2>in all sorts of surprising places, including I looked this

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<v Speaker 2>up decaf coffee as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We should say, yeah, it's still got some caffeine in there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like a cup of coffee. Eight ounces of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee can have anywhere from like seventy five to two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred ish milligrams of caffeine in it. Okay, DCAFF coffee

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<v Speaker 2>still might have like twenty milligrams. Wow, And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound like much. But if you're pounding DCAF

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<v Speaker 2>coffee because you love coffee but you're trying to cut

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<v Speaker 2>back on caffeine stuff Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Yeah, I knew there was some caffeine, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's not Is that negligible.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty itself? Just if you drank one decaffeinated cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee a day, yes, okay, I think on the overall

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<v Speaker 2>effects of your health it would be negligible. But both ways,

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<v Speaker 2>because again the coffee giveth and the coffee taketh away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sure does a double edged drug?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is. It is a drug, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is also in t which we'll get to as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's a drug. It's it naturally occurs like

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<v Speaker 1>many drugs. But it is a stimulant called trimethyl zan

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<v Speaker 1>theene nice chemical formula c h C eight H one

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<v Speaker 1>zero in four O two not zero two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a ten in there.

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<v Speaker 1>What did I say?

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<v Speaker 2>One zero yeah, which I mean, you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>on a CB or something, they get the point. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast is close to CB chatter as as you

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<v Speaker 2>can come.

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<v Speaker 1>I quick segue here. I used to love talking on

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<v Speaker 1>the CB because my dad had one and his jeep.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember when CB culture was huge, Yeah, in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>My buddy, John Pindel now is a trucker. You met

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<v Speaker 1>John where at our New York shows Tall Johnny Pindela,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh uh he's a trucker now, okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>got to hang out and get in his truck. And

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<v Speaker 1>he does not use a CBE and he said that

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<v Speaker 1>he might get one, but it's not like the standard

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<v Speaker 1>thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>What is now texting cell phones?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he said, if you really want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that big trucker culture, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>the CEA BE. Still, well, you can just be a

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<v Speaker 1>lone wolf. He's a lone wolf, gotcha right now?

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<v Speaker 2>He is. He needs one of those jackets like Lenny

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<v Speaker 2>and Squiggy used to wear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was fascinating, though. We need to do an

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<v Speaker 1>episode on trucking because when I saw him, all I

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<v Speaker 1>did was ask questions. Basically, Yeah, it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he have his own rig?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he doesn't own.

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<v Speaker 2>It means truck. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, well hated Johnny and he listens to the podcast now.

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<v Speaker 2>So hey Johnny, because yeah, you don't need to see bee.

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<v Speaker 2>If you listen to stuff, you should know. No, we

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<v Speaker 2>are your keep you company.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So anyway, caffeine, he does drink a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of caffeine. That's where I was going with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that that really had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought up sea bees because he said, h one zero,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>And get our sea legs back? Yeah, our pea legs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a little rusty.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pa is in podcasts, not urine.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you urine. Man. Oh hey, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>something about this break. I learned that there's something called

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<v Speaker 2>mixturition sincope, and mixturition is a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 2>it means two P. No, urination is two P. Micturition

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<v Speaker 2>is the urge to pe. Okay. Sincope is a fainting spell.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a condition out there called micturition sincope where

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<v Speaker 2>people faint after they pee. Wow. There's also one called

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<v Speaker 2>defecation syncope, where people faint after they poop. They have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think Elvis had the most severe case of that. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let that happen to you during this break, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be back right after this. Have we got

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<v Speaker 1>it together?

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<v Speaker 2>That was like half a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I guess so.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna give it another stay up here.

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<v Speaker 1>So caffeine, I think that's what we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a drug, and in its pure form, chuck is

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<v Speaker 2>a bitter, bitter tasting crystalline powder. It's actually very closely related,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in its effects to opioid antagonists like heroin, cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, caffeine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will talk a little more about the brain,

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<v Speaker 2>the effects on the brain, but it is it does

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<v Speaker 2>have these effects, and it does basically this. It uses

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<v Speaker 2>the same mechanism as these drugs, and therefore it can

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<v Speaker 2>cause addictions just like these drugs as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like I said, it occurs naturally. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee bean and in chocolate and tea, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also added artificially in things like soda. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up the sodas to get the most recent amount, and

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<v Speaker 1>Pepsi one right now, I think has the most caffeine.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, do you remember Jolt and Yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>drink a ton of Vault.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you did well.

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<v Speaker 2>I would drink one right before the podcast, remember, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just be like talking a thousand miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the good old days.

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<v Speaker 2>I've settled down quite a bit, you have. I'm happier

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Pepsi one at fifty seven milligrams, tab is number two

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<v Speaker 1>at forty eight, like coke forty six. You will work

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<v Speaker 1>your way down to regular role Coca Cola at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three milligrams per twelve ounce can. And the FDA regulates

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<v Speaker 1>how much caffeine you can put in a soda.

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<v Speaker 2>A soda A soda, that's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. If you were an energy drink like Red

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<v Speaker 1>Bull or any of the those other gross tasting things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like them personally, but people love them. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't like the taste. But that's the workaround for

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA. Because they're not considered sodas, they can put

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<v Speaker 1>lots of caffeine and sugar to the tune of about

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<v Speaker 1>eighty milligrams per eight point three ounces, which you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of Red Bull, there's a lot of caffeine.

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<v Speaker 2>It does seem like a lot. But some people love

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<v Speaker 2>to take it even further. And there's like those five

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<v Speaker 2>hour energy shots.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I have had those before.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are two I have not tried it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I think I was doing construction

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<v Speaker 1>work and I was really tired, and I was at

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<v Speaker 1>the big box store and it was right there at

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<v Speaker 1>check out. I was like, let me try this thing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it rammed me up. I felt like a speedhead.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that little two ounce shot, there's two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>milligrams oh of caffeine, no wonder, like a high end

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<v Speaker 2>amount in a coffee in that little two ounce shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And I think those are the like coffee has

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<v Speaker 1>the most of any beverage.

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<v Speaker 2>I think espresso ounce for ounce has the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean from the coffee being at least or

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<v Speaker 1>espresso bean. Oh yeah, not like an artificial drink, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I meant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got an espresso maker and has some pronounced effects.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy how different it is from coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like an espresso every now and then. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>And I like my coffee every now and then, but

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<v Speaker 1>just every now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want the health benefits though, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink that much coffee, you should just be

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<v Speaker 2>injecting pure caffeine. Chuck, can you do that? They do

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<v Speaker 2>it to mice. Yeah, that's a good point, as we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see later on true, I should probably Again, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>several weeks since we've done this. I need to probably

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<v Speaker 2>throw out a disclaimer there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a joke, right to don't inject caffeine.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you can even get your hands

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<v Speaker 2>on pure caffeine, yeah, do not inject it. You probably

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<v Speaker 2>should inject anything, let alone the pure form of anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because even too much water can kill you. I always

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<v Speaker 2>remember that everybody. Even too much water can kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did look into caffeine overdoses because I was curious,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't happen much because you'd have to drink

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<v Speaker 1>so much of something. Yeah, that it makes it unlikely.

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<v Speaker 1>But there have been overdoses blamed on caffeine pills.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Okay, what's the milligram amount, what's the dosage amount

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<v Speaker 2>that it got?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't remember this. One kid died in Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>like a nineteen year old that I think he had

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<v Speaker 1>like a dozen or two dozen caffeine pills. Wow, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the I think the deal with caffeine pills. It's

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<v Speaker 1>concentrated and it hitch all at once. Yeah, so taking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is just like overdosing on any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stimulant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, it's a stimulant. Yeah, do'es some weird

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to you, including killing you? And like you said, chuggers,

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<v Speaker 2>we already talked about coffee in the coffee episode, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just some of it bears repeating, Like the

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<v Speaker 2>lighter the roast, the higher the caffeine content, typically because

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<v Speaker 2>the roast process actually bakes out a lot of the caffeine.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to make up a clever

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<v Speaker 1>rhyme like the light of the roast, the darker the

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<v Speaker 1>toast or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's that doesn't make any sense. The rhyme's got

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<v Speaker 2>it at least makes sense, or else it's just rhyming words.

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<v Speaker 2>How about how about uh, the lighter the roast more

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<v Speaker 2>caffeine than most. How about that? That's great, that actually

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And so if you want to extract the

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<v Speaker 2>most caffeine out of your diet. Yeah, actually came across

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<v Speaker 2>a website called Bulletproof exac. You know that bulletproof coffee

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>thing or they put like butter in your coffee. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a diet thing. I think it aids in pooping

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<v Speaker 2>and butter in your coffee. Yeah, butter in your coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called bulletproof. It's actually not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you like that, though, take it one step further

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<v Speaker 2>and use coconut oil. Oh okay, that's even better because's

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<v Speaker 2>got a little it's like an almond joy creamer. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>but like an oily version of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, this Bulletproof exec they had a post about maximizing

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<v Speaker 2>your caffeine intake so you can suck it to your

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<v Speaker 2>underlings throughout the day or whatever most efficiently. Right, And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that they said is that grapefruit.

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<v Speaker 2>You should eat more grapefruit because grapefruit contains something called

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<v Speaker 2>naragin or narogin, and it actually slows the removal of

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<v Speaker 2>caffeine from your brain, so you enjoy its effects longer. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So a morning breakfast in the nineteen fifties of

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and a half a grapefruit, that's all you needed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your noon cocaine bump, right, just.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep you going just drinking coca cola.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you also, if you want to maximize your

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<v Speaker 2>caffeine and take from coffee, you should look at the

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<v Speaker 2>beans you're drinking. So Arabica, which is I think the

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<v Speaker 2>most prevalent coffee has it's one point five percent caffeine.

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.640
<v Speaker 2>But Robusta, oh, two point four percent. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>I know, that's the highest caffeine content, naturally of any

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 2>coffee bean. So a light roast robusta is gonna basically.

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<v Speaker 1>With your grapefruit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll be like getting kicked in the chest by

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<v Speaker 2>a mule.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. And doesn't that sound appealing?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what every bulletproof exact wants. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows you how to be a more efficient robber baron.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get down to this, man, How does caffeine

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<v Speaker 2>actually affect your brain? Because it does affect your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole point behind taking coffee and stuff like that is,

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<v Speaker 2>as the guy who wrote this article, oh, the three

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<v Speaker 2>guys who wrote this article, including.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Yeah, I did a little on this. I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's using caffeine. It's a form of self medication.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that's why most people drink it, I think,

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to get that boost in the morning.

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Sure, or in the middle of the afternoon.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm sure people love the taste and stuff.

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're holding their nose and forcing this

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>drink down their throat.

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what like five hour energy is for nose.

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't taste very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they not. I've never tasted one. I've always but

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I've never wanted to experience its effects so badly. Yeah.

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:04.959
<v Speaker 2>I tasted it.

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like just that synthetic

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>fruit taste.

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Does it taste like medicinal at all?

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just tastes. Yeah, it's just not good. Huh

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion.

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just two ounces. You get it over with

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 2>real quick.

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you just sock it down and like you're done,

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>punch a wall. So how does it work on the brain.

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>It tricks your brain actually by mimicking something called a dentosceine,

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's kind of remarkable actually because what it

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>does is it mimics a dentosine and then does the

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>opposite of what a dentosine does, which is to try

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and help you sleep it's pretty cool. Yeah.

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 2>So you know you have a sleep wake cycle, right,

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>part of the sleep cycle is adenocene latching onto the

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>adenoscene receptors on your neurons and they're sweepy. Yeah. It

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>does make you sleepy because it slows the function of

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>your neurons down. It's a big buzz kill. Basically, it's

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>a drag a dinocene is.

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's great, it is, yeah, it is.

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>It helps make you sleepy. And what caffeine does is

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>it gets in there to the same receptor. It binds

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>to the same receptor as adenocene. It's because your brain

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>thinks it's a dinocene. Yeah.

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It puts on its adnoscene costume.

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, which consists of like a sparkly one piece jumpsuit.

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a onesie. And it not only doesn't slow your

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 2>neurons down, it apparently speeds them up. Yes, so your

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>brain starts going haywire. That's part one of what caffeine

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>does your brain. It not only doesn't slow your brain down,

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 2>it prevents the thing that does slow your brain down

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 2>from slowing your brain down, and it actually speeds your

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 2>brain up. Yah haywire.

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, but adenoscene usually well not usually.

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>A dnocene always causes your blood vessels to dilate, and

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>caffeine causes them to constrict, which sounds bad. But one

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 1>of the pluses, and we'll get into the benefits, but

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 1>one of them is constricting. It can maybe help you

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>avoid headaches and migraines. And that's why caffeine is in

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>things like anison or my old reliable BC or Goodies

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>headache powders that I use, Yeah, contain caffeine. Yeah, that's

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>my secret hangover helper BC powder BC your Goodies it

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>or acts fast.

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>They work really well too, both together a little yeah,

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I got to know. Yeah. So caffeine is a vaso

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>constrictor right, that's right. It constricts your blood vessels, and

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>like you said, that can actually help your headaches because

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of headaches vascular headaches, I guess is what

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>they're called, or when your blood vessels are too big

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and the change of pressure in your brain gives you

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>this horrible headache.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Right, So while this is happening, your body thinks these

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>neurons are firing. Your pituitary gland says you must be

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>in trouble because you're supposed to be going to eat, buddy, Yeah.

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Something, there's clearly a bear coming at you. Yeah, I

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know about something's wrong.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>So let's send you some adrenaline. We've talked ad nauseum

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about fight or flight, and your body thinks that's what's

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>going on when you drink coffee or caffeine, and so

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>it says here, you need this adrenaline because, like you said,

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you got a bear come in your way, right, and

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>all the hallmarks of fight or flight kick.

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 2>In which man, this used to be like our go

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to Yeah yeah, and now it's just such an accepted

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>part of everything, that's right. Do we even need to

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>say the things anymore? Yeah? Go ahead, Okay, So your

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 2>pupils dilatee. Yeah, you're breathing. It becomes more rapid. You

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 2>get more breaths. If you're eating something, you stop digesting

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>it because your stomach doesn't matter at that point. That's right, superfluous.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Your blood pressure rises, your liver releases sugar in the bloodstream,

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 2>so you can get some extra energy. Yeah, you're ready

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to go. Basically, it's like time for some action.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's why you drink that cup of coffee.

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You might feel tense like you in the car, yes,

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>or agitated, right, it's because your body thinks you're about

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to be in a big fight with the car next

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to you. Yeah, which ends up it's this weird reverse

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>cycle that ends up causing that fight. Yeah, you know

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>You'll also find if you drink a lot of coffee

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 2>like me, there a big knot develops in between your

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>shoulder blades just below your neck. Nice. It's just yet

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>another result of your muscles tightening and you being ready

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>for action thanks to the fighter flight syndrome. So your

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>brain has been kept from getting drowsy. Yeah, it's been

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>sent in to basically like a Lucy esque assembly line

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>of chocolates. The fighter flight syndrome is kicked in. That

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>describes like a significant amount of the effects of coffee.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 2>But there's a big one that's missing still that we

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>haven't touched on, and that is it's pleasurable effects. It

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 2>makes you feel good.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's a stimulant and it's a drug. And

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>just like while the other illicit illegal drugs, this one

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is just accepted, but it has the same effect. It's

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>going to release dopamine and that's the pleasure center activation center, right,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and it makes you want more of it, and so

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that dopamine's flowing and your body's like, man, this is great.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it doesn't actually it's like heroin and cocaine.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't actually make you overproduce dopamine, but it keeps

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>dopamine from being absorbed as quickly, so you get its

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 2>effects longer and more than you would if you weren't

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 2>under the influence of the drug. Just like heroin, Just

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>like cocaine. Caffeine again, it uses the exact same mechanism.

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just to a weaker degree, which is why again,

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>people aren't shooting caffeine right. And this is a bad idea.

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>This we should point out varies from person to person

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the effects of caffeine on the body because it metabolizes

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>differently in everyone. So some people might be like, I

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get jittery at all, or I can go right

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to sleep after coffee.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Other people, I'd like to see those people in an

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>espresso shot of robusta. Yeah, yeah, I'll bet they wouldn't

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>be singing the same song other folks.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I used to wait tables and I would have people

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>come in at like like lunch and say like, no, no, no,

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't. Like their friend would get a cup of

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>coffee after they'd be like, no, no, no, I'll be up

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>all night.

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd be like are you serious? What did you

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>say that to?

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>No? I would just always yeah, I always think it

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>was a little weird. But like I said, it may

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>keep them up all night. Yeah, it's their own jam.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Those people know their bodies.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So don't just go with the decaf in that case.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>So there are plenty of negative effects like keeping you

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>up all night, as well as positive effects with caffeine,

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about those right after this.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, So you've got the one two three punch.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Your body is enjoying the caffeine. It's blocking that adena scene.

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna feel alert and awake. It's got that adrenaline going,

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's rewarding you with the dopamine. So it's gonna

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>make you want to drink coffee. But I mentioned the

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>vicious cycle. It is a bit because after coffee comes

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the inevitable crash like any stimulant drug, and you want

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>more of it to get back up again. So you're

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna have that fatigue and maybe even slightly depressed feeling,

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you have a little bit more of that

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>caffeine and it's gonna get you going again. And that's

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of the cycle that you find yourself in, which

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>will eventually, even though you might not think it is,

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna affect your sleep patterns.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that cycle kind of continues on into the next day. Right,

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So coffee has a half life of six hours.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Caffeine caffeine, Yeah, I.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Told you if I addicted this, all right, caffeine is

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>a half life of six hours, where if you drink

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>a cup of coffee that has two hundred milligrams of

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 2>caffeine at noon, at six pm, you will still have

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 2>one hundred milligrams of caffeine in your system. So it's

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like at six you drank a red bull in a

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>quarter right then, right, not exactly what you want. And

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>then at midnight you would have fifty milligrams left, which

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>is like more than a coke. That's like a mountain

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>dews worth of caffeine, and you again, not really what

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you want. So, as the authors of this article, including you,

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>point out, you may fall asleep, but that caffeine stimulation

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is probably going to keep you from getting deep sleep,

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and deep sleep is what you really genuinely need. And

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I think after researching this, reading that sentence, I went

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 2>because I think, like, I basically like that. That is

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>how I live my life is I don't sleep deeply.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Even though I sleep deeply, I don't think I get

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 2>actual deep sleep, you know what I mean?

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, So then you wake up craving the caffeine again.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and that's where that cycle goes on and on,

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>where you just it's really tough to quit it.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's very interesting. If you are pregnant, there

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.479
<v Speaker 1>are some studies that suggest and we should say there

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of caffeine studies.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this article says like nineteen thousand since the sixties.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's twenty thousand by now easily, and they

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>are somewhat conflicting. So we always are going to say

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>like this study suggests, because they aren't hard and fast rules.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you're pregnant, some study suggests that three hundred

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>milligrams or more per day could lead to low birth

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>weight in your little BB kids. I read one article

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like five experts talk about caffeine and children, and they

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>all said that's not great. For kids.

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>No kids drink coffee these days, yes, but in the

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>form of like those like coffee drinks that are super

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>sweet and creamy and everything, but they drink like if

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>walk around the mall, you'll see like eight year olds

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>with like a coffee drink just walking around like it's nothing.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I went to the mall the other day for the

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>first time in probably five years.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how was it?

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Was awful?

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Was it?

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And I hated every minute of it? And I'm not

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>going back.

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>The mall is another place that it's another thing that

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>puts that like not yeah back, just too many people

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>in one place.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's no good. And with a baby stroller, it's

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just like I wanted to put a spoon in my ear.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Which mall?

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I went to Perimeter, Okay, I mean there was a

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we got new pillows, so I was like I had

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to go to the mall to get pillows, you know, yeah,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>because you got to put your head on it, even

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>through the plastic case.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>No, I know.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I've been pillows shopping.

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Your pillows are great, though, oh.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you get a good one. Yeah, I've been

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>on a bad run lately with pillows where I've gotten, well,

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>that's two. I've got one. Wasn't very happy with its

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>iond one to replace it. Not it's better, but I'm

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>still not quite happy with it.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you just use one pillow? U?

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Really?

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>One soft pillow?

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Anything else? I'm like, oh my neck.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I gotta have one under my head. I gotta have

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>one behind my head between my head and the headboard.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>And then one tied to your face.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>No, and then a clutch you know, to hold on to,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 1>like to wrap up with. Wow, it's the best.

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's three pillows. Yeah, you sleep with three pillows.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Emily in Yeah, six total.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Jerry tell us and blinked. How many pillows you sleep with?

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Three?

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Three? As well?

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you're under pillowed.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess so I sleep with one third the pillows

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you do.

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's a pillow tip though, if you're buying, just wait

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>for a Macy's one day sale. Oh yeah, because pillows

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>are expensive, good ones, Yes they are, and of worth.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 2>It goes a lot. Yeah, get your hands on a

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>good pillow. Yeah. And Macy's does it twice a year.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe Memorial Day and Labor Day or their

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>pillow sale days.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, they had one going on after New.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Year's I am wrong.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.879
<v Speaker 1>There, you have it all right. So we were talking

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>about sleep and the shopping mall where kids were drinking coffee.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It all comes together, it does. But all five of

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the experts said your kids shouldn't really be having too

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>much or any caffeine. And they didn't say like because

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>of like the health effects like on the basically it

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>was just like, just like sugar, you don't want your kids,

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, heart rate increased a lot and their blood

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>pressure increased, and it's just not going to do yourself

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>any favors as a parent. I have a caffeated child.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>But I genuinely believe that you can go through experiences

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>like that as a younger kid and it'll make you

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>a keyed up adult, a higher strung adult.

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh you think I do.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I have come to believe that. Yet, experiences in childhood

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>very dominantly shape you're who you are as an adult

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>very much. So I've come to that.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess if you're thirteen and drink a lot

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of coffee and you get anxious, yeah, you'd probably be

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>an anxious adult.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe that probably keep drinking coffee, probably to stave

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>off the anxiety.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>When did you start drinking coffee or did you always

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 1>drink a lot of soda too?

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I guess it was as a more of a

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 2>grown up Yeah for both. Oh really, Yeah, I drink

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of kool Aid as a kid. Yeah, and

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like the straight up tons of sugar in the kool

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Aid kool Aid. Yeah. But and I drank like some

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 2>some we called it pop oh yeah, like fago and

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>pepsi and stuff too. But I mean, I think it

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was like as an older person twenties thirties that I

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 2>started drinking like coffee in earnest and yeah, coax.

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what it should be.

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I think. Sure. I definitely didn't drink coffee as a kid. No,

0:36:58.280 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>that was gross.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I added too. The taste of it was just

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>really foul, I thought. But I really learned to love

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 1>the taste of coffee. Yeah, and I enjoy a nice

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 1>hot cup of coffee on a camping trip or a

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>cold day. I just never took up the regular habit,

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and not for any reason other than I just, I

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, just never grab me the never took it up.

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a stand though, you know, like I'm

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>not going to start drinking caffeine.

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and everybody who drinks coffee can rot.

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>No, because my brother in law, my mother in law,

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>drink more coffee than any humans alive, more than me.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>They're both wonderful. Yeah, they're like, let's brew a pot

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>of coffee, not a cup of coffee. Yeah, and let's

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.479
<v Speaker 1>just drink it until it's gone, then brew another pot.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, you know, yeah, I know.

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>But they get a lot done accomplish people.

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>They sleep several inches above the bed.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>One of them is a general in the Marine Corps.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That shows you where he is. Yeah, or actually that's

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>my mother in law. All right. How about some health

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>benefits right, there are a lot, believe it or not.

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>They've done a lot of studies and they found everything

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>from helping out to not develop Parkinson's disease to dropping

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>your risk of various cancers, cirrhosis. How about this. Two

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>cups a day supposedly will cause an eighty percent drop

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in the odds of developing cirrhosis. That's amazing. Yeah, I

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 1>drink a little bit, so maybe I should drink coffee.

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that has to do with stimulating the

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 2>fight or flight syndrome where your liver releases more sugar

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to give you more energy or something like that. Maybe.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>But what's weird then is so that would be more

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>sugar in the bloodstream, right yeah, too much sugar in

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 2>the bloodstream can lead to diabetes.

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, coffee actually is shown to reduce your risk of diabetes. Yeah,

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>there's this Harvard study that involved one hundred and twenty

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>six thousand pe all over eighteen years. They followed their

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>cost is a good study. It's a great study unless

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>they fudge the results. But saying they didn't. What they

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>found was that people who drink one to three cups

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>of coffee a day are nine percent less likely to

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>contract diabetes. Right, yeah, you think it ends there, No,

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 2>it does not. So people who drank six or more

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 2>cups of coffee per day, if you were a man,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>your chances of contracting diabetes were reduced by fifty four percent.

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>That's substantial.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>And for women who drank one six or more cups

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>a day, their chances of contracting diabetes were thirty percent

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>of developing diabetes thirty percent reduction.

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I got another one four cups a day, fifty percent

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>less chance of mouth and throat cancer. And I don't

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>know if it was this Harvard study or another one

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>said it could reduce suicide risk in adults. Even huh,

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense, I guess in one way. Which way,

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I was sinking. I don't know. I

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>take that back.

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe you like run from self harm, even.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe like you flee or fight, or if it just

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it could battle your depressive systems by

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>picking you up or something. I don't know.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yeah, something better explaination than mine. Mime was stupid.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 2>There's there's evidence that it prevents cavities actually, oh really,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 2>which yeah, which is kind of surprising, because that is

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>if you just if you're doing a study on coffee,

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 2>that's if you don't put anything in your coffee, Yeah,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 2>put cream and sugar in. Yeah, you're going to get

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>your cavities on.

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, you kind of do both, right, just depending

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>on your mood.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I typically go toward black, right.

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>But every now and then you throw a little vanilla

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>creamer in there, every once in a while.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I want to treat, oh yeah,

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>special treat right, But caffeine can hurt your teeth in

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 2>that it causes teeth clenching.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Too well, which is one reason I'm losing teeth is

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I grind my teeth at night. Yeah, so maybe I

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't drink more coffee. It could be Yeah, but like

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you said, a Gibbeth and it takes away Do I

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>want teeth or do I want my liver to hang

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>in there.

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And no diabetes? Right? Yeah, good point.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Alzheimer's The bird Alzheimer's Institute in Tampa did some experimenting

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>on lab mice, injecting them with caffeine like you said earlier,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and not only did it protect them against developing Alzheimer's,

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>but it helped reduce symptoms if they already had it.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>They haven't tried it on humans yet, but as it

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>goes with mice, many times it goes with humans.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, we could all be injecting caffeine at

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>some point. That to me is also counterintuitive too, because

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's disease is potentially a buildup of plaques in your brain. Right,

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>that's the result of not getting enough deep sleep, because

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 2>when you sleep, your glial channels expand and your brain

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 2>is bathed in cerebral's final fluid. That it cleans out

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>those plaques, right, But it only happens when you're sleeping

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 2>very deeply. But if you're not getting very deep sleep

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>with coffee or caffeine, then I would think you be

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.959
<v Speaker 2>there'd be a higher risk of Alzheimer's.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's fuddling, it is, And I've also found conflicting studies

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>on memory. Johns Hopkins says that it's a memory enhancer,

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but I've seen other studies that.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Say it's the memory dhancer.

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So again, it's like it's tough to kind of

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>get down to the brass tacks, you know. Yeah, when

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you have conflicting studies.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>If you exercise, coffee is your best friend, caffeine is.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've heard of like Olympic athletes that like we'll

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>shoot espresso right before a race.

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Not only does it like give you a jolt

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 2>of energy and everything, but apparently it has ergogenic properties,

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>which means that it delays fatigue, right, Yeah, and it

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 2>helps your muscles use glycogen their energy stores more efficiently too,

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 2>so it can help you run better. Interesting.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as far as cognitive abilities, the one study f

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>on from Johns Hopkins Medical School said that while you

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>think it is increasing your cognitive abilities. What it's really

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>doing is just taking you back to normal for a

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>short period.

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 2>That is chilling.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then when it wears off, you're actually below man.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I hate to think that. I

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want to quit coffee.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Though you've quit smoking. Yeah, you lost weight? Yeah, keep

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>your coffee.

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 2>That's another thing though I did during this break is

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>put some of that back on. We'll drink coffee and

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 2>go exercise. All right. If you want to know more

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 2>about caffeine, you can type that word into the search

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 2>bar and how stuff works. Don't forget in this case

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the egoes before the eye. Since I said search bar,

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:49.479
<v Speaker 2>it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from Maddie in Virginia. Hey guys, I'm a

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty two year old college student in Virginia. I want

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to start out by saying thank you for the wonderful podcast.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I would likely semails is a good you've seen this.

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, let me explain, guys, how you've helped me. I'm

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a sufferer of extreme anxiety and depression. Have had these

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.680
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0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.759
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0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that have made them much worse. Got to the point

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>last semester where I was not able to go to class,

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>do homework, or play on my sports team. Thankfully my

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.480
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0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>able to work everything out, men in a much better place.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very curious person in love learning and acquiring knowledge.

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>This is where you guys come in. Though I had

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.759
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0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.279
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0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.880
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0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.560
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0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.640
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<v Speaker 1>Really want to thank you for putting in all the

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.640
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0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.360
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0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.240
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0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.960
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0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.359
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0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.359
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0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.600
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0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.480
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0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.280
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0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.879
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0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 2>What a wonderful message.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>They sound like trite things to say, you know, like.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unless you're going through some time, heals wounds and

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 2>it's darkest before the dawn.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.280
<v Speaker 1>But they're trite and true for a reason.

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Because they are trite and true. I think you just

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