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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. It's your friendly neighborhood co host Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take you back in time to January fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, when we spoke at length about caffeine and

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Speaker 1: the ups literally and the downs literally. It's called the

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Speaker 1: duality of caffeine. I hope you enjoy over your cup

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Speaker 1: of coffee.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Bryant. Jerry's over there totally throwing us off with

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Speaker 2: some new as you focus pocus, Yeah, twenty sixteen head stuff.

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Speaker 2: What Yeah, Yeah, she's messing with it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we you guys don't know this because, through the

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Speaker 1: power of the magic of editing and publishing and publishing,

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Speaker 1: you think we've just never been gone from the office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've been gone. I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: episodes we released. I've been so out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I took six weeks of paternity leave woo.

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Speaker 2: And I did by proxy and you.

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Speaker 1: Did by proxy. Yeah. So we've been gone from the

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Speaker 1: studio for a while. And I just wanted to say

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Speaker 1: it's glad to be back, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is nice to be back. Then, it's good

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Speaker 2: to see you again. It's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: What's happened in the In the meantime, I lost another tooth? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my stupid front the tooth next to the one that

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Speaker 1: came out broke off at a Falcon's game.

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Speaker 2: Oh well there you go. God was cursing you for

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Speaker 2: being at the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So I have another stupid flipper and another eight months

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Speaker 1: of eight months early, yeah, until I get the permanent implant.

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Speaker 1: So again I'll be out on tour with no tooth.

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Speaker 2: You can't even see it, like you have to literally

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Speaker 2: like or your gums back, or your lips back to

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Speaker 2: your gums.

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Speaker 1: Or if I laugh a lot, which I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: just lead a more somber life.

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Speaker 2: Well I plan on making you laugh a lot on

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Speaker 2: stage so people might see it.

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Speaker 1: Then what else? You got a dog?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a puppy named Momo. You want to

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Speaker 2: talk about Momo? Momo is very sweet. She's a sweet

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Speaker 2: little Shizu poodle mixture.

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Speaker 1: How's that going.

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Speaker 2: She's a little fluff ball, very good house trained or yes,

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Speaker 2: good right off the bat. We crate trained her. At first,

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Speaker 2: I was like, crates are mean now they put a

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Speaker 2: dog and crane, And then I started to read up

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Speaker 2: on it. It was like, yes, it's like her den.

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Speaker 2: It's her little room, like her bedroom.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when we took away the crate from our

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Speaker 1: she was kind of like, dude, you took my room away.

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Speaker 2: That was my room. Yeah. We plan to keep her

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Speaker 2: crate around, like as long as she wants it, sure,

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Speaker 2: but just she won't be penned in it against her

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Speaker 2: will at certain times until until she's house broken, which

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Speaker 2: I mean she's basically there. It's just we're we're like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? You're about to pee?

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Speaker 1: You know, right right.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't actually have accidents in the house. We're just

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Speaker 2: you know, staying on top of it.

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Speaker 1: It's great. What else happened? We had holidays, yes, good Christmas.

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Speaker 1: In the New Year's I guess Yumy's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it was just a nice time off.

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Speaker 2: Like I had this big to do list, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: none of it got done because it was raising a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how's your kid? Ruby's great man and I did

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I had a big to do list

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Speaker 1: and found myself just kind of being like, well, I

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Speaker 1: could you do this? Or I could just like play with.

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Speaker 2: My kid, right, or watch Making a Murderer? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: did watch all that to do same here. Yeah, in

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Speaker 2: like a day, we'll talk about that. Okay, we probably

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Speaker 2: shouldn't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: People want us to do a podcast on that, I know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not as bad as the requests to do

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Speaker 2: a podcast on the case that Cereal covered, Like I

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Speaker 1: Got that one cover. Oh of course, I could maybe

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Speaker 2: I think we should revisit Exonerations in the Innocence Project

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Speaker 1: What ell oh, I've been playing a lot of uh

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Speaker 1: I got a PS four. Oh yeah, I've been playing

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Speaker 2: With the dog and their dog.

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Speaker 1: Well you can have a dog companion, so of course

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Speaker 1: I chose it. Okay, but it's really awful because the

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Speaker 2: You have to put it out of its misery.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, you can heal the dog. But I went

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Speaker 1: to message boards and everyone's like, don't heal your dog, Like,

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Speaker 1: just trust me, it'll heal itself. Don't waste your medicine.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I'm sure you waste your medicine every time,

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's tough to hear the sake dog whip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, oh, be okay, don't mind me.

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Speaker 1: Dog meat that's his name.

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Speaker 2: So that's a that was a big time off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we just covered it and that's all that happened.

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Speaker 2: Jerry, how about you? That was great, Jerry. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: Jerry also had a nice break with her little baby

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Speaker 2: She told us this through a series of blinks she

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Speaker 1: Yep, nice job, all right. So sorry about the long intro,

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Speaker 1: even though you didn't know that you needed it, right,

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Speaker 1: And maybe I had something to do with caffeine, because.

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Speaker 2: We did such a good job when we recorded those

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Speaker 2: could tell exactly. So I'm a little caffeinated right now,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: What a shock.

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Speaker 2: I don't drink nearly as much as coffee as I

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Speaker 2: really does have a detrimental effect on my mood. Oh really,

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm working on that. But part of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think a good title for this could be

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Speaker 1: mixed messages because in studying caffeine, and we did one

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Speaker 1: all the research is, you know, caffeine, it can be

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Speaker 1: it's kind of both or can be both.

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Speaker 2: It sure seems like that unless we have like a

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Speaker 2: coffee is both, for sure. The weird thing is, like

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Speaker 2: probably gonna do that a lot in this episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they are virtually interchangeable. Sure, but it's not really

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Speaker 2: bad effects on you, and a lot of people know

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Speaker 2: the it's the beneficial effects that are so surprising. They

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Speaker 2: do seem to like you say, agreed, So Chuck, I

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Speaker 1: And it is one forty in the afternoon. Right, what

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Speaker 1: time did you get up?

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Speaker 2: Seven?

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Speaker 1: Six and a half hours. You six and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: You've had five cups of coffee in a mountain dew, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's cutting back?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh man, Yeah, And it's cutting back because I

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Speaker 2: like this afternoon. I won't keep going, Oh so you stop?

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Speaker 2: This is this will be my last probably really.

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Speaker 1: For the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And I'm actually I'm above average for the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the average for the.

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Speaker 2: United States is actually on the woos end of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, the latest information I got this that

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Speaker 1: the US was sixteenth in the world in per capita consumption.

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Speaker 1: No, no, sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know who leads the world right now,

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Speaker 2: I found Finland. Oh really, uh huh from twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Well, the most recent I saw said the Netherlands at

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Speaker 2: like nine point six kilograms of coffee beans per person

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Speaker 1: Well, I bet the top ten is kind of interchangeable

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean coffee consumption patterns, I guess they

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Speaker 2: change coffee consumption in this country?

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Speaker 1: Did it ramp it up?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? Like think about how many people now swing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you mean Charbucks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, actually have no skin in the game Starbucks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't really.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know me, I don't drink caffeine that much.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, I'm very mellow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm starting to think I should

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Speaker 1: drink more coffee though. Why because of the health benefits?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, we'll see, we'll get into all that.

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Speaker 1: But in the top ten you have a Netherlands, Finland, Sweden,

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Speaker 1: in Mark, Germany, Scandinavia loves her coffee apparently, yeh, Slovakia, Serbia,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Than eventually the US.

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Speaker 2: Cold countries not bad, although Brazil loves its coffee as well.

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Speaker 1: Good coffee. I didn't see they weren't even in my

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Speaker 2: So we had different lists made by two different caffeinated weirdos.

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Speaker 1: So the US, the FDA and the AMA Right now,

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Speaker 1: So caffeine, I think that's what we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: It's called bulletproof. It's actually not bad.

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Speaker 1: coffee and a half a grapefruit, that's all you needed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then your noon cocaine bump, right, just.

441
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: To keep you going just drinking coca cola.

442
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

443
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: And if you also, if you want to maximize your

444
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: caffeine and take from coffee, you should look at the

445
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: beans you're drinking. So Arabica, which is I think the

446
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: most prevalent coffee has it's one point five percent caffeine.

447
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 2: But Robusta, oh, two point four percent. As far as

448
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: I know, that's the highest caffeine content, naturally of any

449
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: coffee bean. So a light roast robusta is gonna basically.

450
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Speaker 1: With your grapefruit.

451
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be like getting kicked in the chest by

452
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Speaker 2: a mule.

453
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: Wow. And doesn't that sound appealing?

454
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: That's what every bulletproof exact wants. Wow.

455
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Shows you how to be a more efficient robber baron.

456
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: So let's get down to this, man, How does caffeine

457
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: actually affect your brain? Because it does affect your brain.

458
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Speaker 2: The whole point behind taking coffee and stuff like that is,

459
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Speaker 2: as the guy who wrote this article, oh, the three

460
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Speaker 2: guys who wrote this article, including.

461
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Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I did a little on this. I forgot.

462
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: It's using caffeine. It's a form of self medication.

463
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: Of course, that's why most people drink it, I think,

464
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Speaker 1: to get that boost in the morning.

465
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: Sure, or in the middle of the afternoon.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure people love the taste and stuff.

467
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: It's not like they're holding their nose and forcing this

468
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: drink down their throat.

469
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Well that's what like five hour energy is for nose.

470
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Speaker 1: Don't taste very good.

471
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Speaker 2: Do they not. I've never tasted one. I've always but

472
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: I've never wanted to experience its effects so badly. Yeah.

473
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 2: I tasted it.

474
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like just that synthetic

475
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: fruit taste.

476
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: Does it taste like medicinal at all?

477
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just tastes. Yeah, it's just not good. Huh

478
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion.

479
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: Well, it's just two ounces. You get it over with

480
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: real quick.

481
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: Hey, you just sock it down and like you're done,

482
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: punch a wall. So how does it work on the brain.

483
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: It tricks your brain actually by mimicking something called a dentosceine,

484
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of remarkable actually because what it

485
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: does is it mimics a dentosine and then does the

486
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Speaker 1: opposite of what a dentosine does, which is to try

487
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: and help you sleep it's pretty cool. Yeah.

488
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Speaker 2: So you know you have a sleep wake cycle, right,

489
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Speaker 2: part of the sleep cycle is adenocene latching onto the

490
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Speaker 2: adenoscene receptors on your neurons and they're sweepy. Yeah. It

491
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Speaker 2: does make you sleepy because it slows the function of

492
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Speaker 2: your neurons down. It's a big buzz kill. Basically, it's

493
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Speaker 2: a drag a dinocene is.

494
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's great, it is, yeah, it is.

495
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: It helps make you sleepy. And what caffeine does is

496
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: it gets in there to the same receptor. It binds

497
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: to the same receptor as adenocene. It's because your brain

498
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: thinks it's a dinocene. Yeah.

499
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: It puts on its adnoscene costume.

500
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Speaker 2: Pretty much, which consists of like a sparkly one piece jumpsuit.

501
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: It's a onesie. And it not only doesn't slow your

502
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Speaker 2: neurons down, it apparently speeds them up. Yes, so your

503
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: brain starts going haywire. That's part one of what caffeine

504
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: does your brain. It not only doesn't slow your brain down,

505
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: it prevents the thing that does slow your brain down

506
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Speaker 2: from slowing your brain down, and it actually speeds your

507
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Speaker 2: brain up. Yah haywire.

508
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Speaker 1: And not only that, but adenoscene usually well not usually.

509
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: A dnocene always causes your blood vessels to dilate, and

510
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: caffeine causes them to constrict, which sounds bad. But one

511
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: of the pluses, and we'll get into the benefits, but

512
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: one of them is constricting. It can maybe help you

513
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: avoid headaches and migraines. And that's why caffeine is in

514
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: things like anison or my old reliable BC or Goodies

515
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: headache powders that I use, Yeah, contain caffeine. Yeah, that's

516
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: my secret hangover helper BC powder BC your Goodies it

517
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: or acts fast.

518
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: They work really well too, both together a little yeah,

519
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 2: I got to know. Yeah. So caffeine is a vaso

520
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: constrictor right, that's right. It constricts your blood vessels, and

521
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: like you said, that can actually help your headaches because

522
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: a lot of headaches vascular headaches, I guess is what

523
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: they're called, or when your blood vessels are too big

524
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: and the change of pressure in your brain gives you

525
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: this horrible headache.

526
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Speaker 1: Right, So while this is happening, your body thinks these

527
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: neurons are firing. Your pituitary gland says you must be

528
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: in trouble because you're supposed to be going to eat, buddy, Yeah.

529
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Something, there's clearly a bear coming at you. Yeah, I

530
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: don't know about something's wrong.

531
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Speaker 1: So let's send you some adrenaline. We've talked ad nauseum

532
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: about fight or flight, and your body thinks that's what's

533
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: going on when you drink coffee or caffeine, and so

534
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: it says here, you need this adrenaline because, like you said,

535
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: you got a bear come in your way, right, and

536
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: all the hallmarks of fight or flight kick.

537
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: In which man, this used to be like our go

538
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: to Yeah yeah, and now it's just such an accepted

539
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: part of everything, that's right. Do we even need to

540
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: say the things anymore? Yeah? Go ahead, Okay, So your

541
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: pupils dilatee. Yeah, you're breathing. It becomes more rapid. You

542
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: get more breaths. If you're eating something, you stop digesting

543
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: it because your stomach doesn't matter at that point. That's right, superfluous.

544
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Your blood pressure rises, your liver releases sugar in the bloodstream,

545
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: so you can get some extra energy. Yeah, you're ready

546
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: to go. Basically, it's like time for some action.

547
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why you drink that cup of coffee.

548
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: You might feel tense like you in the car, yes,

549
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: or agitated, right, it's because your body thinks you're about

550
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: to be in a big fight with the car next

551
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, which ends up it's this weird reverse

552
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: cycle that ends up causing that fight. Yeah, you know

553
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

554
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: You'll also find if you drink a lot of coffee

555
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: like me, there a big knot develops in between your

556
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: shoulder blades just below your neck. Nice. It's just yet

557
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: another result of your muscles tightening and you being ready

558
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: for action thanks to the fighter flight syndrome. So your

559
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: brain has been kept from getting drowsy. Yeah, it's been

560
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: sent in to basically like a Lucy esque assembly line

561
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: of chocolates. The fighter flight syndrome is kicked in. That

562
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: describes like a significant amount of the effects of coffee.

563
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: But there's a big one that's missing still that we

564
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: haven't touched on, and that is it's pleasurable effects. It

565
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: makes you feel good.

566
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a stimulant and it's a drug. And

567
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: just like while the other illicit illegal drugs, this one

568
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: is just accepted, but it has the same effect. It's

569
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: going to release dopamine and that's the pleasure center activation center, right,

570
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: and it makes you want more of it, and so

571
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: that dopamine's flowing and your body's like, man, this is great.

572
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it doesn't actually it's like heroin and cocaine.

573
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't actually make you overproduce dopamine, but it keeps

574
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: dopamine from being absorbed as quickly, so you get its

575
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: effects longer and more than you would if you weren't

576
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: under the influence of the drug. Just like heroin, Just

577
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: like cocaine. Caffeine again, it uses the exact same mechanism.

578
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: It's just to a weaker degree, which is why again,

579
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: people aren't shooting caffeine right. And this is a bad idea.

580
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: This we should point out varies from person to person

581
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: the effects of caffeine on the body because it metabolizes

582
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: differently in everyone. So some people might be like, I

583
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: don't get jittery at all, or I can go right

584
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: to sleep after coffee.

585
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: Other people, I'd like to see those people in an

586
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: espresso shot of robusta. Yeah, yeah, I'll bet they wouldn't

587
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: be singing the same song other folks.

588
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I used to wait tables and I would have people

589
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: come in at like like lunch and say like, no, no, no,

590
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't. Like their friend would get a cup of

591
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: coffee after they'd be like, no, no, no, I'll be up

592
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: all night.

593
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like are you serious? What did you

594
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: say that to?

595
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: No? I would just always yeah, I always think it

596
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: was a little weird. But like I said, it may

597
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: keep them up all night. Yeah, it's their own jam.

598
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Those people know their bodies.

599
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: So don't just go with the decaf in that case.

600
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: So there are plenty of negative effects like keeping you

601
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: up all night, as well as positive effects with caffeine,

602
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about those right after this.

603
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: All right, So you've got the one two three punch.

604
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Your body is enjoying the caffeine. It's blocking that adena scene.

605
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel alert and awake. It's got that adrenaline going,

606
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: and it's rewarding you with the dopamine. So it's gonna

607
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: make you want to drink coffee. But I mentioned the

608
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: vicious cycle. It is a bit because after coffee comes

609
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: the inevitable crash like any stimulant drug, and you want

610
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: more of it to get back up again. So you're

611
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna have that fatigue and maybe even slightly depressed feeling,

612
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and then you have a little bit more of that

613
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: caffeine and it's gonna get you going again. And that's

614
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: sort of the cycle that you find yourself in, which

615
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: will eventually, even though you might not think it is,

616
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect your sleep patterns.

617
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that cycle kind of continues on into the next day. Right,

618
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: So coffee has a half life of six hours.

619
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Caffeine caffeine, Yeah, I.

620
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Told you if I addicted this, all right, caffeine is

621
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: a half life of six hours, where if you drink

622
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee that has two hundred milligrams of

623
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 2: caffeine at noon, at six pm, you will still have

624
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: one hundred milligrams of caffeine in your system. So it's

625
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: like at six you drank a red bull in a

626
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: quarter right then, right, not exactly what you want. And

627
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: then at midnight you would have fifty milligrams left, which

628
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: is like more than a coke. That's like a mountain

629
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: dews worth of caffeine, and you again, not really what

630
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: you want. So, as the authors of this article, including you,

631
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: point out, you may fall asleep, but that caffeine stimulation

632
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: is probably going to keep you from getting deep sleep,

633
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: and deep sleep is what you really genuinely need. And

634
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: I think after researching this, reading that sentence, I went

635
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: because I think, like, I basically like that. That is

636
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: how I live my life is I don't sleep deeply.

637
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Even though I sleep deeply, I don't think I get

638
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: actual deep sleep, you know what I mean?

639
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: Right, So then you wake up craving the caffeine again.

640
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Exactly, and that's where that cycle goes on and on,

641
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: where you just it's really tough to quit it.

642
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's very interesting. If you are pregnant, there

643
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: are some studies that suggest and we should say there

644
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: have been a lot of caffeine studies.

645
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this article says like nineteen thousand since the sixties.

646
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's twenty thousand by now easily, and they

647
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: are somewhat conflicting. So we always are going to say

648
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: like this study suggests, because they aren't hard and fast rules.

649
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: But if you're pregnant, some study suggests that three hundred

650
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: milligrams or more per day could lead to low birth

651
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: weight in your little BB kids. I read one article

652
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: like five experts talk about caffeine and children, and they

653
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: all said that's not great. For kids.

654
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: No kids drink coffee these days, yes, but in the

655
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: form of like those like coffee drinks that are super

656
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: sweet and creamy and everything, but they drink like if

657
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: walk around the mall, you'll see like eight year olds

658
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: with like a coffee drink just walking around like it's nothing.

659
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I went to the mall the other day for the

660
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: first time in probably five years.

661
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was it?

662
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Was awful?

663
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Was it?

664
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: And I hated every minute of it? And I'm not

665
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: going back.

666
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: The mall is another place that it's another thing that

667
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: puts that like not yeah back, just too many people

668
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: in one place.

669
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no good. And with a baby stroller, it's

670
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: just like I wanted to put a spoon in my ear.

671
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Which mall?

672
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I went to Perimeter, Okay, I mean there was a

673
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: we got new pillows, so I was like I had

674
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: to go to the mall to get pillows, you know, yeah,

675
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: because you got to put your head on it, even

676
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: through the plastic case.

677
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

678
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: No, I know.

679
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: I've been pillows shopping.

680
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Your pillows are great, though, oh.

681
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you get a good one. Yeah, I've been

682
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: on a bad run lately with pillows where I've gotten, well,

683
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: that's two. I've got one. Wasn't very happy with its

684
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: iond one to replace it. Not it's better, but I'm

685
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: still not quite happy with it.

686
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Do you just use one pillow? U?

687
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: Huh?

688
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Really?

689
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: One soft pillow?

690
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Wow?

691
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Anything else? I'm like, oh my neck.

692
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: I gotta have one under my head. I gotta have

693
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: one behind my head between my head and the headboard.

694
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: And then one tied to your face.

695
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: No, and then a clutch you know, to hold on to,

696
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: like to wrap up with. Wow, it's the best.

697
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's three pillows. Yeah, you sleep with three pillows.

698
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Emily in Yeah, six total.

699
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: Jerry tell us and blinked. How many pillows you sleep with?

700
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Three?

701
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Three? As well?

702
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: I think you're under pillowed.

703
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: I guess so I sleep with one third the pillows

704
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: you do.

705
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Here's a pillow tip though, if you're buying, just wait

706
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: for a Macy's one day sale. Oh yeah, because pillows

707
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: are expensive, good ones, Yes they are, and of worth.

708
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: It goes a lot. Yeah, get your hands on a

709
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: good pillow. Yeah. And Macy's does it twice a year.

710
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: I think maybe Memorial Day and Labor Day or their

711
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: pillow sale days.

712
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, they had one going on after New.

713
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Year's I am wrong.

714
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: There, you have it all right. So we were talking

715
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: about sleep and the shopping mall where kids were drinking coffee.

716
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: It all comes together, it does. But all five of

717
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: the experts said your kids shouldn't really be having too

718
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: much or any caffeine. And they didn't say like because

719
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: of like the health effects like on the basically it

720
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: was just like, just like sugar, you don't want your kids,

721
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, heart rate increased a lot and their blood

722
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: pressure increased, and it's just not going to do yourself

723
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: any favors as a parent. I have a caffeated child.

724
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: But I genuinely believe that you can go through experiences

725
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: like that as a younger kid and it'll make you

726
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: a keyed up adult, a higher strung adult.

727
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: Oh you think I do.

728
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: I have come to believe that. Yet, experiences in childhood

729
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: very dominantly shape you're who you are as an adult

730
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: very much. So I've come to that.

731
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if you're thirteen and drink a lot

732
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: of coffee and you get anxious, yeah, you'd probably be

733
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: an anxious adult.

734
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: I believe that probably keep drinking coffee, probably to stave

735
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: off the anxiety.

736
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: When did you start drinking coffee or did you always

737
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: drink a lot of soda too?

738
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: No, I guess it was as a more of a

739
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: grown up Yeah for both. Oh really, Yeah, I drink

740
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: a lot of kool Aid as a kid. Yeah, and

741
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: like the straight up tons of sugar in the kool

742
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Aid kool Aid. Yeah. But and I drank like some

743
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: some we called it pop oh yeah, like fago and

744
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: pepsi and stuff too. But I mean, I think it

745
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: was like as an older person twenties thirties that I

746
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: started drinking like coffee in earnest and yeah, coax.

747
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: That's what it should be.

748
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I think. Sure. I definitely didn't drink coffee as a kid. No,

749
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: that was gross.

750
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I added too. The taste of it was just

751
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: really foul, I thought. But I really learned to love

752
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: the taste of coffee. Yeah, and I enjoy a nice

753
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: hot cup of coffee on a camping trip or a

754
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: cold day. I just never took up the regular habit,

755
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: and not for any reason other than I just, I

756
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: don't know, just never grab me the never took it up.

757
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a stand though, you know, like I'm

759
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: not going to start drinking caffeine.

760
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and everybody who drinks coffee can rot.

761
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: No, because my brother in law, my mother in law,

762
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: drink more coffee than any humans alive, more than me.

763
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: They're both wonderful. Yeah, they're like, let's brew a pot

764
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: of coffee, not a cup of coffee. Yeah, and let's

765
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: just drink it until it's gone, then brew another pot.

766
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Uh huh, you know, yeah, I know.

767
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: But they get a lot done accomplish people.

768
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: They sleep several inches above the bed.

769
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: One of them is a general in the Marine Corps.

770
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: That shows you where he is. Yeah, or actually that's

771
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: my mother in law. All right. How about some health

772
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: benefits right, there are a lot, believe it or not.

773
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: They've done a lot of studies and they found everything

774
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: from helping out to not develop Parkinson's disease to dropping

775
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: your risk of various cancers, cirrhosis. How about this. Two

776
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: cups a day supposedly will cause an eighty percent drop

777
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: in the odds of developing cirrhosis. That's amazing. Yeah, I

778
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: drink a little bit, so maybe I should drink coffee.

779
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: I wonder if that has to do with stimulating the

780
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: fight or flight syndrome where your liver releases more sugar

781
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: to give you more energy or something like that. Maybe.

782
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: But what's weird then is so that would be more

783
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: sugar in the bloodstream, right yeah, too much sugar in

784
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: the bloodstream can lead to diabetes.

785
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: Right.

786
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: Well, coffee actually is shown to reduce your risk of diabetes. Yeah,

787
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: there's this Harvard study that involved one hundred and twenty

788
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: six thousand pe all over eighteen years. They followed their

789
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: cost is a good study. It's a great study unless

790
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: they fudge the results. But saying they didn't. What they

791
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: found was that people who drink one to three cups

792
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: of coffee a day are nine percent less likely to

793
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: contract diabetes. Right, yeah, you think it ends there, No,

794
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: it does not. So people who drank six or more

795
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: cups of coffee per day, if you were a man,

796
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: your chances of contracting diabetes were reduced by fifty four percent.

797
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: That's substantial.

798
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: And for women who drank one six or more cups

799
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: a day, their chances of contracting diabetes were thirty percent

800
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: of developing diabetes thirty percent reduction.

801
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: I got another one four cups a day, fifty percent

802
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: less chance of mouth and throat cancer. And I don't

803
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: know if it was this Harvard study or another one

804
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: said it could reduce suicide risk in adults. Even huh,

805
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense, I guess in one way. Which way,

806
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know I was sinking. I don't know. I

807
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: take that back.

808
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Well, maybe you like run from self harm, even.

809
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Maybe like you flee or fight, or if it just

810
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it could battle your depressive systems by

811
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: picking you up or something. I don't know.

812
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, something better explaination than mine. Mime was stupid.

813
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: There's there's evidence that it prevents cavities actually, oh really,

814
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: which yeah, which is kind of surprising, because that is

815
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: if you just if you're doing a study on coffee,

816
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: that's if you don't put anything in your coffee, Yeah,

817
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: put cream and sugar in. Yeah, you're going to get

818
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: your cavities on.

819
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: All right, you kind of do both, right, just depending

820
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: on your mood.

821
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: I typically go toward black, right.

822
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: But every now and then you throw a little vanilla

823
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: creamer in there, every once in a while.

824
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I want to treat, oh yeah,

825
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: special treat right, But caffeine can hurt your teeth in

826
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: that it causes teeth clenching.

827
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: Too well, which is one reason I'm losing teeth is

828
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: I grind my teeth at night. Yeah, so maybe I

829
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't drink more coffee. It could be Yeah, but like

830
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: you said, a Gibbeth and it takes away Do I

831
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: want teeth or do I want my liver to hang

832
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: in there.

833
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: And no diabetes? Right? Yeah, good point.

834
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's The bird Alzheimer's Institute in Tampa did some experimenting

835
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: on lab mice, injecting them with caffeine like you said earlier,

836
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: and not only did it protect them against developing Alzheimer's,

837
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: but it helped reduce symptoms if they already had it.

838
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: They haven't tried it on humans yet, but as it

839
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: goes with mice, many times it goes with humans.

840
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, we could all be injecting caffeine at

841
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: some point. That to me is also counterintuitive too, because

842
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's disease is potentially a buildup of plaques in your brain. Right,

843
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: that's the result of not getting enough deep sleep, because

844
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: when you sleep, your glial channels expand and your brain

845
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: is bathed in cerebral's final fluid. That it cleans out

846
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: those plaques, right, But it only happens when you're sleeping

847
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: very deeply. But if you're not getting very deep sleep

848
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: with coffee or caffeine, then I would think you be

849
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 2: there'd be a higher risk of Alzheimer's.

850
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: It's fuddling, it is, And I've also found conflicting studies

851
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: on memory. Johns Hopkins says that it's a memory enhancer,

852
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: but I've seen other studies that.

853
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Say it's the memory dhancer.

854
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, it's like it's tough to kind of

855
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: get down to the brass tacks, you know. Yeah, when

856
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: you have conflicting studies.

857
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: If you exercise, coffee is your best friend, caffeine is.

858
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've heard of like Olympic athletes that like we'll

859
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: shoot espresso right before a race.

860
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only does it like give you a jolt

861
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: of energy and everything, but apparently it has ergogenic properties,

862
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: which means that it delays fatigue, right, Yeah, and it

863
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: helps your muscles use glycogen their energy stores more efficiently too,

864
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: so it can help you run better. Interesting.

865
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as cognitive abilities, the one study f

866
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: on from Johns Hopkins Medical School said that while you

867
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: think it is increasing your cognitive abilities. What it's really

868
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: doing is just taking you back to normal for a

869
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: short period.

870
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: That is chilling.

871
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when it wears off, you're actually below man.

872
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I hate to think that. I

873
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: don't want to quit coffee.

874
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: Though you've quit smoking. Yeah, you lost weight? Yeah, keep

875
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: your coffee.

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Speaker 2: That's another thing though I did during this break is

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Speaker 2: put some of that back on. We'll drink coffee and

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Speaker 2: it's time for listener mail.

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Speaker 1: This is from Maddie in Virginia. Hey guys, I'm a

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Speaker 1: twenty two year old college student in Virginia. I want

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Speaker 1: to start out by saying thank you for the wonderful podcast.

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Speaker 2: I would likely semails is a good you've seen this.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me explain, guys, how you've helped me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a sufferer of extreme anxiety and depression. Have had these

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Speaker 1: I'm a very curious person in love learning and acquiring knowledge.

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Speaker 1: This is where you guys come in. Though I had

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Speaker 1: of the only instances where I would smile or laugh.

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Speaker 1: Really want to thank you for putting in all the

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Speaker 1: Don't think you'll read this on the PSYCH and I

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Speaker 1: read on the podcast, I just want everyone listening to

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Speaker 2: What a wonderful message.

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Speaker 1: They sound like trite things to say, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're going through some time, heals wounds and

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Speaker 2: it's darkest before the dawn.

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Speaker 1: But they're trite and true for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Because they are trite and true. I think you just

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Speaker 2: tried and true. Yeah, but I think you just improved

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Speaker 1: But they're not tried, they're true things. Hang in there, people,

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: That's my message. If you want to get in touch

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