1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Once upon a time, not long ago, when people were 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: pajamas and lived life slow, when laws precerned and justice stood, 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: and people were behaving like they ought to good, there 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: lived a little boy who was misled and another little boy. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: And this is what he said. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you got we're going to rock some cash. 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to the Black Guy to his podcast, your 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 4: host Rod and. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 5: And Karen robbing o'folks and making a dash. 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 6: M I know this one got up. 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you wouldn't have messed this one up. No, but uh, 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: this is a Wednesday, last day of the week for us, 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: Yes it is. Then you know next week, you know, 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: we may or may not be here, might take a 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 4: week off. We'll let you guys know how that's gonna work. 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: But what is important is we're not doing the show alone. 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: As you guys can hear from the voice that you 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: heard people that have premium subscriptions, you should have heard 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: his voice before. He's done a couple of movie reviews 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: with us. Yes, people that have listened to some of 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: our guest appearances and stuff. I've been on his show, 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: Cinema Fixed before with he and Maica Castillo. And this 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: is the first time ever getting to beat on the 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: actual podcast podcast. I'm excited, but it is the host 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: of the Agents of Shield cast, which. 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm a member of. 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: Hopefully you guys are listening to that on iTunes, those 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: of you who listen to Agents of Shield and I 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: mean watch Agents of Shield and want to hear different 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: opinions on it. It's a good recap show that we 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: do every week. You can also find them on Cinema Fix. 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: You can find them on film geek radio dot com. 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: He's also a managing editor for movie Mezzanine and he 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: runs a block cinema meditations at pathios dot com. 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: Did I leave anything out? Andrew? 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: I think everything, And yes, I'm pretty sure that people 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: realized that there was a guest on when they heard 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: me open up the show. They were probably like, who's 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: this white guy the show today? Like they could tell 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: right away. 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: Well, you are not the first white man ever be 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: on the show, and you will not be the last, 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: So that you know, they probably got excited and said 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: a new person to break in. 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: We don't recognize this white man's voice. 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 4: So first thing is, first man, how'd you get into, 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: you know, movie criticism and the movie reviewing and all 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: that stuff in the first place, because that's kind of 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: how I know you from Cinema Fix and Film Geek 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: radio and you know some of your television review shows 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: I've been reviewing movies professionally for around eight to ten 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: years now, and I first started to really get into 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: criticism when I was a teenager, around fourteen or fifteen. 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: And you know, like most people, I grew up with movies. 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: My family watched a lot of movies, and when I 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: was fourteen or fifteen, I just started to really just 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: get into how movies made and I started to watch 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: a lot of more stuff and started to really think about, Okay, 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: how are these things put together, and more importantly, what 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: do they mean? And how do people come away affected 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: by movies and how do movies interact with the greater 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: culture as a whole. And that's really what got me 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: started in film criticism, and I've been doing it ever since. 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: Do you remember the first movie you reviewed? 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, it's been so long ago. I 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: remember when I was a teenager, I had a cheap, 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: awful looking angel Fire website where I used to post 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: some movie reviews, and I think maybe one of the 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: first ones I did was probably around ten years ago, 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: two thousand and three, two thousand and four. I remember 74 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: I wrote about The Lord of the Rings, maybe the 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Passion of the fight Club. I think when I saw 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: fight Club, I wrote about that fight Club. That was 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: a movie that that that played a major rule in 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: my life. That movie really just got me thinking and 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: and really pushed me towards film criticism in a lot 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: of ways. 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: Now, what was the movie that you first remember getting 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: into like arguments about. 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Because you know, I listen to. 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: Your show I like, and I know that I'm very 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: opinionated with my own stuff. Like I actually find it 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: hard to listen to most review shows because I'm so opinionated, 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, I disagree with this. You know, 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: they should think like I'm thinking. You know, but obviously 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: everyone's entitled to their own opinion. But like, what was 90 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: the first thing you review where people were like, no, Andrew, 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: you got this wrong, and I don't like you anymore 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: because of this. 93 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: Oh oh man, I can't. I can't remember. Honestly, I 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: haven't gotten a whole lot of like, really vitriolic hate 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: male or anything like that for people. I mean, I've 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: had people tell me that they disagree, but no one's 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: been like, oh man, you're so wrong, I'm gonna cumber 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: down your house or not. Yeah, So thankfully nothing nothing 99 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: too bad. 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: Because I feel like with the Internet now and especially 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: if you get more and more successful, that just is 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: part of territory, is that someone somewhere is. 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Gonna be like gonna say something. 104 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: I have to physically assault you because our opinions are different. 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: And he must not be doing the ones that had 106 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: the nerd rage all over them. 107 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: So now he talks about he talks about a lot 108 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: of them, like uh, you know, for example, like what 109 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: do you think about Dark Knight Rises? 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: Dark Knight Rises was an okay mediocre movie that unfortunately 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: was too bloated and too long and too messy to 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: really be any good. 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: See now, I feel like people should want to fight 114 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: him for that, cause it's like yeah, because it's like, 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: I's not gonna I don't agree with that, and it's 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: you know, it's one of those movies that got like 117 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: a ninety or ritting tomatoes from fans, so you know, 118 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: it's something where you would expect people to be like, oh, hell, noah, 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: I'm about to take you to task for this. But 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: maybe he says it in a way that people are 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: not taken as inflammatory or something like that. 122 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: But that's true, and a lot of times it might 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: depend on the tone and things like that. What movie 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: have you ever critiqued? And you watched the movie and 125 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 5: by the time it was finished, I was like, this 126 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: is the worst shit I've ever watched. Ever, how do 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 5: I put the words together to tell people that this 128 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: movie is so bad? 129 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, it's the worst we've ever seen. I have 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: no idea. I've seen a lot of bad movies. I 131 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: remember when I first started reviewing movies in college, I 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: went to a screening of a movie called Over Her 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Dead Body with Paul Rudd and Ava Longoria and it 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: was so awful. I just it was one of the 135 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: most It's some of the most fun I've ever had 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: writing a review, I think because I had nothing here 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: to say about it. I just sometimes it's fun, you know, 138 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: to just pile on it and bache a really bad movie. 139 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: And with a movie like Over Her Dead Body, that's 140 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: just that's just asking for it. That's just asking for 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: people to for people to say, you know, don't see 142 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: this movie. You know, you should never see this movie 143 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: over your dead body, right, you know. So that was 144 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: a really bad one. But but film criticism is interesting. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: And because I I tend to be the kind of guy, 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily as interested in persuading you that I 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: am right as I am in trying to have a 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: conversation about the movie and figure out what it means 149 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: to people and and and what it what it speaks 150 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: to in terms of the culture, what it could mean 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: for movies in general, because obviously I'm not going to 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: persuade everybody, and and people sometimes aren't gonna be a 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: persuade me. But if we can at least find some 154 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: larger issue to talk about regarding the film, then I 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: think that that's a victory. So I'd like to try 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: to find common ground whenever I can, and I'm open 157 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: to change in my mind, I really am. Sometimes I 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: changed my mind in ways that people like, and other 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: times I change my mind in ways that people don't like. 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: For example, Rod, I don't know how you feel about 161 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: the James Bond film Quantum of Solace. 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 163 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, Well that's good because when I first saw 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: that movie, I didn't care for it very much. I 165 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: thought it was a pretty lackluster follow up to Casino Royale. 166 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: But in the past year, I've seen that movie three 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: or four more times, and I'm now convinced that it 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: is the most underrated James Bond film, that it's definitely 169 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: in the top seven or eight, possibly even the top 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: five James Bond movies. So I am open to having 171 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: my mind change over time, and it's great when that happens, 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: especially if I go from not liking a movie he's 173 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: really liking it. 174 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 175 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: I'm the same way when it comes to like, like 176 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: my thing is, I think opinion should be kind of fluid, 177 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: not that like it shouldn't be about I said this thing, 178 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: so therefore I must always stand by that thing. 179 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: True, because I feel like things do change, we as. 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 6: People change, your view change. 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes I just understand something a year later that I 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: just did not even possibly understand when it first came out, 183 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: you know, So I think that, And then also another 184 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: thing that happens. I think a lot of critics like 185 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: get caught. 186 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 6: Up in. 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: You'll go to a movie or something, you might be 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: tired you might you know, it might be a late 189 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: It might be late, you might be you may have 190 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: had a big meal. 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 6: You know. 192 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: I went and saw and this is always like a 193 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: questionable example, but just follow me here. I wouldn't saw 194 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: the hell Boy two, which I completely did not like, 195 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 4: and a thing. 196 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: I was tired. I had played basketball. 197 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: I like fell asleep for like ten minutes of the movie, 198 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 4: woke up, didn't remember what happened. And I remember people 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: were like, did you go see hell Boy? And I'd 200 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: be like, yeah, man, it's fucking terrible. I can't believe 201 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: they made it. I was so bored. I fell asleep. 202 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: And then I watched it again, like later on on 203 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: like HBO and a random like Saturday Afternoon or something. 204 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: I made it all the way through, and I was like, 205 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: I don't know why I thought it was as bad 206 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: as I thought it was. I still don't think it's good, 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: but like I just thought it was like, you know, 208 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: a B movie when I watched it the first time, 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: and then then when this time, I was just like, Okay, 210 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: it's a hero that I'm just not into. But the 211 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: movie's not terrible. 212 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: Yes, And also I think for me too, which is 213 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: something that I consider when I'm listening to people who 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 5: coultique movies, do you like that genre of movies? Because 215 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: to me, that makes a big difference, because if you 216 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 5: don't like that genre of movies, me, as a fan, 217 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 5: I automatically dismissed almost everything you have to say because 218 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 5: a lot of people, they might be exception to the rule, 219 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 5: but most people automatic shit own it because they just 220 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: don't like that genre movies. Well, then if I'm somebody 221 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 5: that's really coming to you for you to really critique it, 222 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: I don't feel like I'm getting a fair perspective. Not 223 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: that you got to like and love everything that you watch. 224 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, but if you already like, but 225 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 5: I don't like comic book movies, or I don't like 226 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: such such a movie, or I don't like movies violencing, 227 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, why am I coming to you to 228 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: critique something from I guess from my perspective, from a 229 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 5: pure and honest perspective, When you're already to me, you're 230 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: already coming at it or critiquing it from such a 231 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 5: negative point of view. 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, I think you have to be 233 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: aware of your biased and that helps cause you know, 234 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 4: I'm like, there's some critics that review like. 235 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'm reviewing for the New York Times. 236 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: And that means that the people reading this have families, 237 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: you just have a certain income level. They're expecting a 238 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: certain type of you know, a trip to the theater. 239 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: And I could see why that guy goes, yeah, Batman may. 240 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: Be rated PG. 241 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: Thirteen, but they putting guns in little kids' heads and shit, 242 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: don't go see this. I'll be like, I get that guy, 243 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: you know, I get why that guy goes, this was 244 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: scared of shit out of your thirteen year old or 245 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: ten year old or eight yearld or whatever. But then 246 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: there's other times where people are just like, this thing 247 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: sucks or this thing kind of is about the business 248 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 4: of movies likes matter of fact, Andrew like, in the 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: last you'd say, you've been doing this about ten years. 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: In the last like ten years, what things have you 251 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 4: seen kind of change in criticism? 252 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: Well things have I seen change in criticism? Oh man? Well, 253 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean the explosion of the Internet and social media 254 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: in particular has definitely changed how people talk about movies, 255 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: and sites like Rotten Tomatoes I think are great because 256 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: they can give the average consumer just a quick snapshot 257 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: of like what the critics are saying is, I think 258 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: people suddenly culturally it's easy to get stuck in this 259 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: mindset that a movie is either good or bad and 260 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: that's it, and then that's all there is to it. 261 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: Or the movie is the greatest thing ever the worst 262 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: thing ever. Yeah, And the truth is, there's it's so 263 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: much more than that. A movie can be bad but 264 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: still have some really good or at least interesting things 265 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: about it that are worth discussing, that are worth thinking about, 266 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: that that are worth talking to people about. And a 267 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: lot of good movies, you know, I might enjoy them overall, 268 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: but they're not perfect. And so I think it's easy, 269 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: especially now in the age of social media and in 270 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: the age of instant reactions, where we're you know, I'm 271 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: the same way. As soon as I see a movie, 272 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: I'll hop on Twitter and tweet my initial reaction. And 273 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: I think that's fine. It's just important for people to 274 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: realize that one hundred and forty characters isn't enough space 275 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: to really adequately explore a film, right, Yeah, And and 276 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: and if you if, if if you're just looking at 277 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: movies as a motive entertainment, that's fine. Maybe that's that's 278 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: all you need. Maybe all you're looking for is a 279 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: consumer guide. You're looking for a critic who's just gonna 280 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: tell you is this worth spending your money on? And 281 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: if that's all you're looking for, that's fine. I got 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: no problem with that. But personally, I tend to prefer 283 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: critics and and and people that that aren't just looking 284 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: at is this movie worth your money? Is entertain entertaining. 285 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: I like to go a little bit deeper and talk 286 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: about and more detail how things work, and and and 287 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: and you just can't do that with an instant yes 288 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: or no reaction. So I think that's definitely one of 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: the biggest changes I've seen, uh in criticism. 290 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, also like that, there's a couple of 291 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: things I've noticed in my time, just you know, because 292 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of podcast read a lout 293 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: of movie reviews and stuff, and I had to kind 294 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: of slow down because to me, the Internet and competition 295 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: kind of ruined reviewing for a lot of people because 296 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: once it came down to like page hits and like 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: who could get the most like likes on a comment 298 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: on riten Tomatoes or who could get this kind of 299 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: the snarkiest headline some people. I feel like it kind 300 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: of lost integrity because it kind of became like a 301 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: roast of movies, you know. 302 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: And that's one of the things. 303 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: That kind of like changed criticism for me, because I 304 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, if anytime you put a profit 305 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: in center behind, like hey, I need you to click this, 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: and I only have like a title and maybe a 307 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: blurb to get your attention, then all of a sudden, 308 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: you know, if I go see World war Z and 309 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: maybe I think it was a mediocre movie, I didn't, 310 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: you know, it didn't blow me away. That doesn't get 311 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: your attention as well as much as if I said 312 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: world war Z more like world war Z's and. 313 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: A whole bunch of like like that gets then. 314 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: It's like going to sleep, right, Yeah, Like let me 315 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: click on this and see what this what this guy's 316 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: problem with this movie was. 317 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: So I always think. 318 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: Like that was one of the things that kind of changed. 319 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: And then the other thing that that really changed movie 320 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: We know so much more about behind the scenes of 321 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: movies now, and we. 322 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 6: Know it is that we didn't know before. 323 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like it's good and bad because 324 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: on the on the one hand, as a fan, I've 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: kind of always wanted to know some of these little things, 326 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, like who turned down this script, who you 327 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: know who was up for this role and didn't get it. 328 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: Uh uh, you know things of that nature. Who wrote 329 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: this and how many times was it rewritten? And you 330 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: know and expect. But but it also kind of has 331 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: the cash twenty two where if I don't like a movie, 332 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: then I go looking for that stuff to be like 333 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: this is why it sucked, where it's like why I 334 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: didn't like the Trying Legacy movie, and then you go 335 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: then you just like, well, you know I was born. 336 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: I didn't like it, blah blah blah. 337 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you look up a few articles, 338 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: Oh it was written seven times by six different groups 339 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: of writers, and you're like, yeah, see, that's why it 340 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: sucked because the writing. 341 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: I didn't know that before. I just didn't know. 342 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: I didn't like it, you know, But now I have information, 343 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: I can be like, well, did you know Brave change 344 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: directors because the lady was taking too long? I didn't 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: know that when I was watching the movie, But when 346 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: later when I was like Brave didn't hit home for me, 347 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: I suddenly know it, and now I'm using that to 348 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: analyze the movie in hindsight, which may which you know, 349 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: it might really just be me hunting for an answer. 350 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: That is it really the reason I liked that movie? 351 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. And you bring up a good 352 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: point just about how much information is available nowadays about 353 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: what goes on behind the scenes in movies. For the 354 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: past two or three years, I've done my best to 355 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: avoid knowing a lot about behind the scenes stuff with movies, 356 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: and I try to avoids as many trailers and as 357 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: much marketing as possible, not because there's anything inherently wrong 358 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: with it, but just because, to be honest, all of it, 359 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: including news stories and scoops and everything, it's all marketing, 360 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: and it's all designed to get you set certain expectations 361 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: in place and get you hyped up. And if you 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: go into the movie seeing it and then it doesn't 363 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: meet those expectations, that could affect how you view the film. 364 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: So now I try to go in as blind as 365 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: possible with most things, and I only look up, you know, 366 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: stuff about the production and what went on after I 367 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: see the film, and I found that it is actually 368 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: probably it's probably made me enjoy a lot more things 369 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't have enjoyed if I had gone in 370 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: with different expectations. And if I don't like something, I 371 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: can be pretty honest with myself when I say, well, 372 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: it wasn't because it was overhyped for me if I've 373 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: avoided most of it, and that has actually helped a lot. 374 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: The other thing regarding criticism that I think it's important 375 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: for people to realize. And it seems obvious when you 376 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: say it, but I didn't even fully realize it until 377 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: I started writing criticism and until I just started seeing 378 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: so many more movies. Film critics see a. 379 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 5: Lot of yeah, and I think I think people fail 380 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 5: to realize. For a lot of people, like you go 381 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: to work eight hours a day, they watch movies eight 382 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 5: hours a day, ten hours a day, twelve hours a day, 383 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 5: so their perspective is a little different, and to me 384 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: sometimes I think it becomes draining. 385 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 6: And also a lot of people fail to realize. 386 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: And once you once you understand that, you understand why 387 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: the obscure form flicked and nobody else is going to see. 388 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: But critics get nominated because they go. 389 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: Ooh, something different than the normal structure that I see. 390 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 6: Fifty times or sixty times or eighty times in a year. 391 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: But for the average fan, they're like, what the fuck 392 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: is this? I'm not reading self titles? Why did this 393 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: person win? I don't give fuck? But for them they're 394 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 5: like it's something. It's like a dominant a rough to 395 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: a critic. But to the average fan, they're like, I 396 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: don't comprehend this. 397 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely that because I, like I said, I 398 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: listened to a lot of podcasts, and especially when you 399 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: have people that are so like into the like criticism 400 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: is their livelihood. There's nothing else they do, so they're 401 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: they're constantly seeing movies because they have to. 402 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: And there's a lot more bad movies than good. 403 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And to top that off, even your good 404 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: movies a lot of times the difference between a good 405 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: movie and a bad movie. We were actually talking about 406 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: this on the Ages of Shield cast. We were like 407 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: having a discussion about like tropes and like how certain 408 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,239 Speaker 4: things are like kind of constants in different kinds of 409 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 4: TV formats. Like the last Ages of Shield starts with 410 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: a you know, flash forward kind of and then it 411 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: goes back and tells you how built up to this moment, 412 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: right that happens dozens, I mean thousands of shows, literally 413 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: thousands of shows. Yes, but it's at that point I've 414 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: seen it, so I'm not as excited by the idea 415 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: of their doing it. So now it's about execution, and 416 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: that is like the only thing that separates your some 417 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: of these good movies from these bad ones is like 418 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: true this you know, Dark Knight was able to execute 419 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: this thing better than this shit movie that I saw 420 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: that tried to do the exact same thing. 421 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of times with critics. 422 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: If I see that trope a thousand times, at some point, 423 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: the level of execution required to make keep me interested, 424 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: it's gotta be higher. Because I've seen it so much. 425 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: I know what's gonna happen in an hour, you know. Now, 426 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: it's just how much time are you gonna waste before 427 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 4: you tell me what? 428 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: I already know that. 429 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 5: That's true, And I think for me, once I understood that, 430 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 5: I kind of lightened up on critics because for very 431 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 5: very long time time. 432 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 6: And I know you're in that crew, Andrew, I was like, 433 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 6: fuck critics. 434 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't give a god damn what 435 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 5: y'all talking about, because your shit and you're angry about everything, 436 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 5: and I'm not an angry person and I'm not a 437 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 5: mad person and everything that I love and I think 438 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: the best. I read it and y'all going, this is terrible, 439 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: this is bad, and I'm going, I don't understand. How 440 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 5: could you have that perspective? But then I was like, oh, 441 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 5: this is their job. They do this, like like, I 442 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: literally had to reprogram how my mind thinks. And also 443 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 5: critics are forced to watch things that they might not 444 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 5: always want to watch. I watch things I enjoy, good 445 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 5: or bad. I watch them out of my choice of 446 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: enjoying it, not because it's my job. 447 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 6: So my perspective had had to change. 448 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: Now I still disagree with a lot of them, and 449 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: I think that something that not not you in particular, 450 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 5: but I think that a lot of critics are very 451 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 5: biased when they go in. But I can respect the 452 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 5: opinion a lot more than I did before. 453 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And I think the key for everyone and 454 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: especially critics is to always keep an open mind. And 455 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: you're right, because we see so many movies, it's easy 456 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: to go into something thinking, oh man, this is just 457 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: gonna be another one of those formulaic movies. I've seen 458 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: a million times before already it's not gonna have anything 459 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: fresh or new or exciting. I'm gonna be totally bored. 460 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: But a good movie is gonna be a good movie, 461 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: and a good movie can overcome that, you know. 462 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 6: True. 463 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: So I can't count the number of times that I've 464 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: gone into a movie thinking I don't really know much 465 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: about this, I'm probably not gonna enjoy it very much, 466 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: and been really surprised at how good something was. So, 467 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: you know, it kind of goes both ways. And I 468 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: think the thing people need to realize is that it's 469 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: that critics. You know, the average moviegoer goes to the 470 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: movies two or three times a month. Critics go so 471 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: much more so that they see so many movies. I mean, 472 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: I think I see it between one hundred and fifty 473 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: to two hundred movies every year, new movies that have 474 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: released that year. And that's not even close to compared 475 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: to what some other people and some other critics that 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: I know see, I mean, especially if you're like the 477 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: critic for the New York Times, some of those big 478 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: publications that you get sent screeners, you go to festivals, 479 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: you see so many movies. I mean, you'll see a 480 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: minimum two to three hundred movies every year, and a 481 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: lot of that it just has to do with there's 482 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: so many more movies coming out nowadays, and not all 483 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: of them are being getting wide releases, and some of 484 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: them are only released in New York and LA and 485 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: so some of them, you know, only certain critics will 486 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: get to see. But when you see that many movies, 487 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: I think you're right, there is a tendency to maybe 488 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: be willing to give something a pass, or to like 489 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: something a little bit more if it's just being different 490 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: or if it's just trying to do something different, just 491 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: because so many movies follow the same beats and you 492 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: get used to it and you can you can predict 493 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. And I think that's where a lot 494 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: of the divide comes between between just more casual fans 495 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: of movies and critics. It's not that we're pretentious necessarily, 496 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: or that we are smarter than people or anything like that. 497 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: It's just that we see more so we tend to 498 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: be more informed, and a lot of us have studied 499 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: film and we know the history of film, and we have, 500 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, decades of film history that we're also drawing 501 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: upon when we look at movies, so it's just a 502 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: it's just a different perspective, yeah, you. 503 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: Know, Like like also there's kind of a separation because 504 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: I think you can be like critical of a movie 505 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: and still enjoy it true, you know what I mean, 506 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: Like a movie we can critically fail at certain things 507 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: like that, you know, the the you know, the storytelling 508 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: wasn't that that that well done. Maybe it wasn't that 509 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: well written or it wasn't that well acted, but it 510 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 4: may have some things that it either knocks out the 511 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: park or that just work despite its flaws. 512 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: Like for me, I think the latest Riddick film was terrible, 513 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: Like oh really, yeah, I think I think it was 514 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: like lot. 515 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: I think it was one of the worst movies to 516 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: come out this year. It is also one of my 517 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 4: favorite movies this year, like because it is like you know, 518 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: because I like, I couldn't tell someone to go see 519 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: this in any good consciousness, like conscience because I know that, 520 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: you know, it's some of the dialogue is like really bad, 521 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: Like it really feels like a dude that just lift 522 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: weights all day came up with a lot of the 523 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: dialogue for the lines that the one liners and stuff. 524 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: A lot of eighty sentimentality in it, you know, just 525 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: so you know, some of the special effects are like 526 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: really kind of low budget, or at least they don't 527 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: pop off the screen, you know, you can kind of 528 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: tell that. They were like, look, it's not gonna we're 529 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: not spending one hundred million dollars on this shit. Okay, 530 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: we got thirty million dollars. That's what we're spending, and 531 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: we're gonna make four movies. 532 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 6: You know. 533 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: But but the thing is, I enjoyed it thoroughly. 534 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: I had a smile on my face the entire time 535 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: I walked out of there, like, oh my god, that 536 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 4: was perfect. But at the same time, I think it 537 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: was you know, critically, I could see any critic going, yeah, 538 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: this is terrible. Don't see this, you know, So like 539 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: I wonder like if critics ever have that same type 540 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: of feeling where it's like, well, I enjoyed this. But 541 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: for my job of what makes a movie good or bad, 542 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: going by the things that we typically judge a movie by, it, 543 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: I can't tell you it's good, you know, right, I. 544 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: Mean I could, I could sort of see what you're saying. 545 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean, personally, I saw ridick. I really enjoyed Riddic. 546 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: I'd recommend people go see Riddick. I think it's a 547 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: legitimately good movie. 548 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: You know. 549 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: And I can see how some critics or some people 550 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: there might be a tendency to think, oh, well, it's 551 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: just it's just an action movie starring Ben Diesel, or 552 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: it's a sci fi movie, it's a genre picture. It's 553 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: not quote unquote high art or anything like that. But 554 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: the thing is, popcorn movies can have stuff to say too. 555 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: Popcorn movies are are relevant to the conversation as well, 556 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's very completely dismiss them. And 557 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: I would say Riddick is a legitimately good film, And 558 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you have to feel guilty about enjoying 559 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: something ninety nine point nine percent of the time at least. 560 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I try not to be like like 561 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: if I if I hate a movie, I I'm sure 562 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: I sometimes fail in this, but I try not to 563 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: be condescending towards people who like it, even something like Twilight, 564 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: which I I just loathe and I've never seen any 565 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: of those. I hate what it represents. I just hate 566 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: everything it stands for, and it's I think it might 567 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: be easy to be condescending towards people that like Twilight, 568 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: and I'm sure I have been at times, but I 569 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: would never begrudge someone their enjoyment, you know. And if 570 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: you if you like it and you have fun with it, 571 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: hey good for you. I wish that I felt the 572 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: same way. I wish I had that enjoyment, but I didn't. 573 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad you did. 574 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and that's one thing that I can respect, 575 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 5: because it's a lot of stuff. I like shitty movies, 576 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 5: and I will admit I like terrible ass movies. 577 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: I love them. They make me happy. 578 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: But I do understand uh, people going well, I didn't 579 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: like that, And it's one of those things where I don't. 580 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 6: I'm like you. 581 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 5: I don't show on other people's happiness. But if I 582 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: don't like something, I will make it plain. Then I 583 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: don't like it. Like a lot of people like Salt, 584 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 5: Salt is a terrible, shitty ass movie. 585 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 6: To me, it's just bad. 586 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't like you, But it's a lot of 587 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: people that swear it's the best thing ever. 588 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 6: I'm like, cool, I'm glad you like it. Well, it's not. 589 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: They don't even swear as the best. 590 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: They just keep bringing up that Angelina Jolie was in it, 591 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: but she's said in a lot of movies, and she 592 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: didn't even get naked in Salt, So what the hell 593 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: are we talking about? You know, I hate when people 594 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: do that word because I was like, yeah, I didn't 595 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: like Salt. 596 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: It was kind of boring written, you know, straight by 597 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: the numbers. 598 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't possible white man though, so maybe your guys 599 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: will enjoy that. And then people were like, but Angelina 600 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: Jolee's in and she's so hot. I'm like, there's pornography 601 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: on the internet. Like, if you really need to see 602 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: a naked woman, you have a cell phone, you have 603 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: a laptop, you have all kinds of ways to see 604 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: naked people. Don't let that be the reason you spend 605 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 4: thirteen dollars at the theater. 606 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: Go see something you might actually enjoy. 607 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: But like, like going back to the Riddick thing, right, 608 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: So with Ridick, if someone told me like they didn't 609 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: like they thought that it was written badly, or like 610 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: the dialogue was really uh corny and over the top, 611 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: I would not save that movie, you know what I mean, 612 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 4: Like I would be like it really was. 613 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: But that's why that's why I like. 614 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: What makes it fun? 615 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, yeah, yeah that okay. 616 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: I guess That's what I'm saying is if someone told 617 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: me that and they were like, that's why I didn't 618 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 4: like it, I'd be like, that's cool, but that is 619 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: why I like it, like for the record, like the 620 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 4: same reason you don't like it make which I would 621 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: not even try to save this movie from ide but 622 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: that's why it's awesome. 623 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: Like I I giggled at. 624 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: Every single like line that he uses gravelly voice to 625 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: like foreshotow like it really should be called Ridick was 626 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: right about everything from like every single lie he says 627 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: just foreshadows something to happen. Is later that he is 628 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: absolutely right about in every single situation. Another now, another 629 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: question I want to ask, like, of the movies you've 630 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: seen this year, like what was your like, give me 631 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: like two or three of your most enjoyable movies this year. 632 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. I actually have. I've 633 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: been making a list throughout the entire year of everything 634 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: I see and ranking them for best to worst, just 635 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: as an experiment and and just sort of see how 636 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: my tastes change over the year. Right now, My number 637 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: one film is spring Breakers. Okay, I don't know. I 638 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw spring Breaker. 639 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: I didn't see it. I heard a lot about it. 640 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: That's my number one film right now. There's a movie 641 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: called Fill the Void, which unfortunately didn't get released widely. 642 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: It's it's an Israeli film. I believe it's coming out 643 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: on DVD in November. People should check it out. Let's 644 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: see before midnight this summer. I really enjoyed that film. 645 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: In terms of like a wide release, mainstream movie, I've 646 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: got one in my top ten. This is okay. This 647 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: is an example of a movie that surprised me. The 648 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: Purge Okay, I loved The Purge and I was not 649 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: expecting to. And I think there are a lot of 650 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: things going on in that movie that are often overlooked 651 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: by critics. I think it has some very interesting things. 652 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: It's trying to say in different levels it's operating on, 653 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: don't I'm planning on rewatching it before the end of 654 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: the year. I don't know if I if it's a 655 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: second viewing will lower my opinion of it, But right 656 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: now it is in my top ten of the year. 657 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: And and and that's one of those movies that I 658 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: You know, if I tell most people it's in my 659 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: top ten, they'll just be like why. And I can 660 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: fully understand that reaction. And it's one of those cases 661 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: where I think I probably got something out of it 662 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: based on my interests and my passion and the way 663 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: the things I tend to look for in the things 664 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: I tend to look for in movies that most people don't. 665 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: And so I would like to have that conversation with 666 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: people and explain what I liked about it, but I 667 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: also understand not everybody else is going to get that 668 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: from the film. 669 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah that's interesting too, because you know, that is one 670 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: of those movies that critics and fans gave like very 671 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 4: low ratings on. 672 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 6: Like right, most most people I've talked to. 673 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: Said it was terrible. Yeah, so but I'm kind of 674 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: but I'm glad that you like that. 675 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: Not that I haven't seen it, no, but I'm glad 676 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: that you like a movie that other people don't like 677 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: in general, uh, just so that you know how it feels, 678 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, like, I think all 679 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 4: critics should like something where it's just like, no one 680 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 4: else likes this, and then I can go, well, at 681 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: least you know how it feels, you know, because I 682 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 4: think a lot of people when you listen to like 683 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: a podcast where people are giving their opinions on something 684 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: like you know that you either support, enjoyed, don't like whatever. 685 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: There is this kind of idea like, oh, you're you're 686 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: the guy on the mic, and you don't even you 687 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: don't even understand man, you don't even get it. But 688 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 4: then to know that they have their well, no one 689 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: gets my movie. The purge is also and you guys 690 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: don't get it. I feel like that that makes it 691 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: more relatable. 692 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, And sometimes I think people have a have ao 693 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: tency to have a disconnect because I know me and 694 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 5: Roderick or or at least people listen to critics, they 695 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 5: feel like critics have a disconnect. 696 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 6: But critics are people too, And it's one of those 697 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 6: things where. 698 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 5: I know me and Roderick, we literally are go to 699 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 5: the movies more a lot more than an average movie goer, 700 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 5: especially in the summertimes where a lot of the action 701 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 5: movies come out. We will literally go every weekend a 702 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 5: lot of the times for months on end, doing high seasons, 703 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 5: or if shit come out on Wednesday, we'll see something 704 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: that come out on Wednesday, they go see something else 705 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 5: on that Friday. So we watch more than most people 706 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 5: watch a lot of movies. 707 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 6: And how does it. 708 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 5: Feel when you sit back and you go, Okay, I 709 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 5: went to school, I got this education, you know, I 710 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 5: know all this you know, background about cinematography and all 711 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 5: that stuff, and you have somebody listening to go yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 712 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 5: I don't care nothing about none of that. 713 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 6: Did you like the movie? 714 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I personally, I think that's a very simplistic question, 715 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: and I would prefer not to be forced into a 716 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 2: situation where I just where I have to say yes 717 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: or no like that, because most of the time it's 718 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 2: not yes or no unless it's a movie I either 719 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: just really loved or really hated. You know, it's probably 720 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: gonna be somewhere in the middle. And if you don't 721 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 2: know someone, if you don't know like their taste and 722 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: what they're probably gonna like, it can be hard to 723 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: say to say, you know, you should go see this movie. 724 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: And I think that's support it for for for consumers 725 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: as well as critics, to realize, you know, when a 726 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: critic states or her opinion that critics a person too, 727 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: he's just telling you his or her subjective response. He's 728 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 2: not speaking just to you, you know, He's just speaking 729 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: to everybody and saying, here's what I thought, here's what 730 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: I took from this movie. And you know, when I 731 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: write a review, even if I if I loved it 732 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: or I hate it or I'm passionate about it, I 733 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: would much rather get a conversation going. If you disagree 734 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 2: with me, I have no problem with that. Just tell 735 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: me why you disagree, what worked for you, what didn't 736 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: work for you, and let's talk about it. 737 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I think. I think that's all it 738 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: comes down to. Me too, is like the conversation is 739 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 4: actually better than the rating of a movie, better than 740 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: you know, your final thoughts or whatever. 741 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 6: The job in minds takes. 742 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And in the conversation sometimes I learned stuff from 743 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 4: the conversation where I'm out, I didn't know people looked 744 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: at such and such a thing from this perspective. 745 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 3: The only thing about twenty thirty. 746 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 4: That's been weird for me is I felt like this 747 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 4: year had some really solid movies that I actually enjoy, 748 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 4: but it was kind of ruined for me because I 749 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 4: think the best movie came out in like March and everything. 750 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 4: Nothing has been able to give me that same like 751 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 4: feeling of just inspiration and like, oh my god, everything 752 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: about this movie was perfect. 753 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: They are are you talking about Olympus Has Fallen? 754 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Olympus Has Fallen was to me. 755 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it knocked it out the park, like just like 756 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 4: because I had I had like decent expectations. I tried 757 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 4: not to get myself too excited, but like every time 758 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 4: I saw a treyl I was like I have I 759 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: have a feeling that this movie could be special. But 760 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 4: there's a million movies like this and they and almost 761 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: all of them suck ass at some point. 762 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 6: You know, Yes, that dude, I mean. 763 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: I mean I liked that movie. I didn't love it 764 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: quite as much as you, but I enjoy if This 765 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: Has Fallen. I enjoyed White House Down. You know, I 766 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: think there's nothing wrong with making a a popcorn movie 767 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: where your only goal is just to entertain people. I 768 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: think that that is that's fine, that's wonderful. I think 769 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: there are obviously better examples of that than others. Sometimes 770 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: a movie can do that well and sometimes the movie won't. 771 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I like, personally, I'm not a big fan 772 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 4: of White House down, Like I feel like that one 773 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 4: got a little too comical for me. They try to 774 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 4: throw a couple more couple too many jokes in there, 775 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 4: and I was like, motherfucker, they're attacking the White House 776 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: is nothing, It's nothing funny about this, Like y'all need 777 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: to get to killing these terrorists and start with the 778 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 4: buddy comedy stuff. But at the same time, like, uh, 779 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 4: I you know, I with with Olympus is fallen. It 780 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: just it also had the idea of expectations, and I 781 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 4: think what a lot of criticism and a lot of 782 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: just fan hood is about managing expectations and once something 783 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: superseds your expectations, like like Olympus is falling dead for me, 784 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 4: it's really hard to like get my gauge back because 785 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 4: I've seen other movies that I think were actually good, 786 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 4: if not better, but I can't, like, I don't have 787 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: the same feeling when I leave the theater. I saw 788 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: Star Trek Into Darkness, which I think was a very 789 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 4: great It was a good thing, joy that it was 790 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: a really good film. This it was, But I did 791 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 4: not feel the same way I did after olybas has following. 792 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 5: I think Olympus has fallen in The Raid. Now, yeah, 793 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 5: the Raid too when two years ago. Yeah, like when 794 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: I can honestly say, out of all my movie watching 795 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 5: that I've actually did in the movie theaters, the Raid was. 796 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 6: I can't expect. 797 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 5: It was one of the few movies where I literally 798 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 5: like screamed like I was at a concert the whole 799 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 5: time watching the movie. And I think it was the 800 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 5: fact that it was me, Roderick and Asian Christen there 801 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 5: with like eight old people and in like a theater 802 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 5: and we literally you'd have thought we was watching football. 803 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 6: Like we literally had to jump up and like hold 804 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 6: each other down, like it was just hilarious. Yes, we 805 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 6: were like still, oh did you say that? Oh, I 806 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 6: mean we gotta sit down and we're gonna miss something. 807 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 5: And I have never I can truly say, I have 808 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 5: never felt that much enjoyment. 809 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 6: And I don't know gonna be just gonna do that. 810 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: And there's no quantifying that, cause like like there's no 811 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 4: way to put that in a review or to even 812 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 4: express it on our like when we do review shows, 813 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: there's no like remember when we saw Machete. Oh, that's 814 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 4: another good one like that that theater was so good, 815 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 4: Like the crowd was exactly perfect for Robert Rodriguez. 816 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: They all got it. 817 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 4: They laughed at the exact ship that was supposed to 818 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 4: be a joke, and they took it with the exact 819 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 4: amount of seriousness was just kind of none, you know. 820 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 4: But I could not replicate that for any one else 821 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: who asked me how was the movie. 822 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: I can't be like, well. 823 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: It was okay unless you see it with like seventy 824 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: drunk white college students, then it is fucking awesome. 825 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, how do you control 826 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 3: for that? 827 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 6: You just can't. 828 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 5: And when we went to go see Michette, and it 829 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 5: was one of those like like like the ray window 830 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 5: magical moments, because everybody would bust out, like like if 831 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 5: we would have went with and seen it at a 832 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 5: regular theater, we wouldn't have got that same vibe, right, 833 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 5: But everybody busted out laughing, kept saying it was ridiculous 834 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 5: but had a blasty whole entire movie. And I think 835 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 5: that also dictates how you feel about the movie if 836 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 5: you have the right audience too. 837 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And I think you know, regardless of what 838 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: the crowd experience is, like, I think as a critic, 839 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: if I come away from a movie just feeling that 840 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: much joy and that much enthusiasm. It's my responsible ability 841 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 2: to put that into my review and to just communicate, 842 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 2: find the find the right words, find the right expressions, 843 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 2: to communicate this movie was incredible at an awesome time 844 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: watching it, and you should go see it, you know, 845 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: and and and crowd experiences can be weird sometimes, but 846 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: I have you guys ever been in a movie where 847 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: you were the only people reacting something. 848 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 4: It was Rise of the Planets of the Apes, which 849 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: is and I stand by this one of the greatest 850 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 4: movies of all times, hands down. It's basically prison Break 851 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 4: for apes, and but it is. But it's amazing because 852 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: so many people in our theater because we went to 853 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 4: like a kind of an upscale theater or whatever, so 854 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 4: so many like it's it's like a really big statement 855 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: on class. It's a really big statement on race and 856 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: you know, oppression, slavery, all this different stuff, right, So 857 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 4: it was really funny because Karen and I got it immediate, 858 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 4: but we were probably also the only black people in theater, 859 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: so we kind of got like, oh no, no, no, the 860 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 4: humans are not the good guys. The humans are kind 861 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 4: of the bad guys in this movie, they're you know, 862 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: they treating these apes like shit, and we like, for 863 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 4: two hours we were laughing when the apes got the revenge. 864 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: You were angry when the apes got angry. 865 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 4: When Caesar like grabs his leash and says no, And 866 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 4: when Caesar talks to uh uh was it Joseph Golden 867 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: Levit or or whichever one of those one of those dudes, 868 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: and he was like, Caesar is home. 869 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: When he got to the like Redwood Forest or whatever. 870 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 4: Like those moments were like so triumphant for Karen and I, 871 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 4: like we were looking at each other like, I can't 872 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: believe this happened. This is the greatest thing ever. And 873 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 4: literally the rest of the artist is like, what the 874 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: fuck is happening? Why are these apes? When are the 875 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 4: humans gonna beat the apes? 876 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 6: Yes, I don't understand. 877 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 5: When we left, it was such a baffling May and 878 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 5: Roger balked out like this is the best movie ever, 879 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 5: and people. 880 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 6: Around us going, I'm confused, why does the humans lose? 881 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: I was smiling, We were smiling in people's faces like 882 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: that was good, right, and they're like that was horrible. 883 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 6: Yes, they going in that was like we died I 884 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 6: don't understand. 885 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, so what happened? You know, like what when? 886 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: Were Are the humans gonna come back in part two? 887 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: It's like no, it's the title pretty much says it 888 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 4: all about you. 889 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 6: Have you watched the older movies? Apparently not? 890 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but their oppressors that that's what happened. That's the 891 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: important thing. Oh man, see see that's great. And that 892 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 2: brings up another point that I think people sometimes forget, 893 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: which is that I mean, yeah, everybody's opinion is their 894 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: own and it's subjective. But why is everybody's opinion subjective? 895 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 2: Because we all come from different backgrounds, we all come 896 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: from classes, we all come from different races, we all 897 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 2: come but we will all have different life experience, instances, 898 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 2: and all of that factors in to our perception of 899 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: a film. And that's why it's so important to be open, 900 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 2: not only to change in your mind on a movie, 901 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: but just open to other opinions and other sides of 902 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: the conversation. Yes, Like I enjoy like seeking out criticism 903 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: and essays and opinions from people that disagree with me, 904 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: Like I'm always looking to know, like, Okay, if I 905 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: didn't like a film, but you did What was it 906 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: in your experience? What in this movie spoke to you 907 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: that I can learn from I could change how I 908 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: view this film or view other movies in the future. 909 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 2: And that, I think is what's really important is how 910 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: do how does our own experience as individuals shape how 911 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: we view movies and view popular culture? 912 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 4: Now, last question and then we'll get into some of 913 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 4: the pop culture and news and all this stuff. But 914 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: do you as why do ever like worry about like 915 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: reviewing films for like African Americans, Latinos, like other nations, 916 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 4: other like you know, do you ever go like, do 917 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 4: I not have the life experience? Do I not have 918 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: the right uh you know, uh background to really judge 919 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 4: these because one of the things I found is, uh, 920 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 4: like I used to listen to this one podcast, slash 921 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 4: Film Cast. For a lot of people, I don't know 922 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 4: if they heard of it, but you know, it's one 923 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 4: of my It was it was one of my favorite 924 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 4: podcast to review. But then I remembered after listening to 925 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 4: I think it was the Django and Chain review where 926 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 4: and it wasn't even that I just disagree with them, 927 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 4: but like I kind of had an epiphany of the 928 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 4: fact that they don't really review black movies pretty much 929 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 4: at all, you know, unless it's like like not even 930 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 4: like not even no, not even the main stream ones, 931 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 4: like just like they pretty much don't do black movies. 932 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 6: Like oh okay at all, so they just skip them. 933 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like like I. 934 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 4: Think the last one they did was and it's arguably 935 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 4: black quote unquote was the one that started quovenjian A Wallace. 936 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 3: How was it coming? 937 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was the last like quote unquote 938 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 4: black movie that they actually had review. But you know, 939 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 4: they just passed over so many other movies that they 940 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: were quality enough to you know, every once in a 941 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 4: while you might want to check one of them out, 942 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 4: you know, or if you were just gonna make the argument, 943 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 4: well we only do mainstream movie, Well, some of them 944 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 4: were made enough money, some of them got enough sales 945 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: that would warrant at least a review or mentioned. 946 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 3: Even if it's not like the hour long review. 947 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 4: It might be like, oh, yeah, we saw I don't know, 948 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 4: Medea does goes to camp I don't know, And and 949 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 4: the thing is not even to say it's good. It 950 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 4: would be one hundred behind them being like it was terrible. 951 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 4: Like I don't get white people like Tyler Perry, it's 952 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: a horrible movie. 953 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 3: But I've always kind of felt like there's like an. 954 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 4: Uncomfortable, unspoken like I'm not gonna talk about these movies 955 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 4: because I don't want to piss anybody off, because I 956 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 4: might not know what the fuck I'm talking about. 957 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna I'd rather either not. 958 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 4: Review, you know, Red Tales, or if I do review it, 959 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it's good and just walk away 960 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 4: from it and not really critique it like like I 961 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 4: do other movies. Right, I saw Red Hook summer. Spike 962 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 4: Lee directed it, so it must be good the end. 963 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 4: Let's move on to something else instead of being fair. Yeah, 964 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 4: So do you ever worry about that or do you 965 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 4: ever feel any kind of pressure about that? 966 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 2: I worry about that a lot, And it's part of 967 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 2: it's just because I'm mentored in sociology and I'm really 968 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: interested in just like power dynamics and race and gender 969 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: and class and just how people relate to each other 970 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 2: and and how how we might sometimes unconsciously be biased 971 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: in certain ways without realizing it. And so like if 972 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 2: you listen to our podcast Cinema Fix, there will be 973 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 2: frequent episod. So it's where Monica and I just really 974 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: try to dive into, like, Okay, what is this movie 975 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 2: saying about class or or gender or or race? Is 976 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 2: this movie sexist? And if so, how is it being sexist? 977 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 6: Is it? 978 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: Is it fair to overanalyze it that much? You know, 979 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So so I think about that 980 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 2: stuff all the time. And actually, I just the last 981 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: movie I reviewed over at movie mezzanine dot Com was 982 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 2: Baggage Claim, And that's a movie aimed primarily an African 983 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 2: American demographic, and so I was just very worried going 984 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 2: into that movie, like will I be able to adequately 985 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: experience this way this movie and and write a fair 986 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: review of it not being black and not having that 987 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 2: experience and and and so so it does, you know, 988 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: way heavily on my mind. And you know, when it 989 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 2: comes to quote unquote, you know, black movies, if you 990 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 2: want to call them that, you know a lot of it. 991 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 2: It's just it comes down to, like any other type 992 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 2: of film, it's all about exposure and knowledge. And the 993 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 2: more you expose yourself to something, the more you're gonna 994 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 2: learn about it, get a feel for it, you know, 995 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: be able to offer a more balanced critique of it. 996 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: So like, for example, I haven't seen any Tyler Perry movies. 997 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 3: Good for you, sir, Yeah, you're very lucky. I mean, 998 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 3: if you say so, take my word for it. 999 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: And so there's a part of me that thinks, Okay, 1000 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: if I'm ever assigned a Tyler Perry movie to review, 1001 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: like part of me feels like I would have to 1002 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: go back and watch a lot of his other movies. 1003 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 2: You probably will do a lot of research and before 1004 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: I could adequately feel comfortable, you know, looking at one 1005 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 2: of his films. And I think it's like that with 1006 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: any other genre. You know, you mentioned earlier that so 1007 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: sometimes people might be hesitant to look at documentaries or 1008 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: foreign films or genres that they're just not exposed to 1009 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: as much. 1010 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1011 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 4: I had to do this with Harry Potter, by the way, 1012 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 4: Like I wanted to go see the Harry Potter like 1013 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 4: last two movies, and I was like, you know, a 1014 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 4: lot of people were like, well, you could just go 1015 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 4: see them anywhey. 1016 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, let's go back to. 1017 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 4: Day one man, Let's watch them all and let's get 1018 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 4: the whole background in the field I'm not I'm not 1019 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 4: gonna I'm not gonna read the books, but I will 1020 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 4: watch all those movies. 1021 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 3: And you know, I was thankful that. 1022 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 4: I did it because it did give me better perspective 1023 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 4: on the last two movies. 1024 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's important to be willing to do that, 1025 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 2: I think. And it's so easy to get stuck in 1026 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 2: these assumptions like, oh, that movie has subtitles, so it'll 1027 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 2: be extra work or something to watch and to read, 1028 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: even like, come on, people read every day. You're always reading. 1029 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 2: You're reading text, you're reading online, you're reading Twitter. It's 1030 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 2: not that big of a deal to read. And the 1031 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: more you open yourself up to other types of movies, 1032 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 2: I think, the better and you and people are gonna 1033 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 2: find that. Yeah, there might be a lot of the 1034 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: like any like any type of movie. There's gonna be 1035 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 2: movies of that genre that you don't like, but there's 1036 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: also gonna be a lot of movies that you just 1037 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 2: discover and are surprised by it turned out to be 1038 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic. So it's just a matter of being willing 1039 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: to expose yourself to new things. 1040 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like and I do like that you at 1041 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 4: least review the movie, you know what I mean, Because 1042 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 4: like I said, like that was kind of my issue. 1043 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 4: Was like man, like I was, and I didn't know 1044 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 4: it was even an issue until that moment because I 1045 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 4: was like, wait a minute, I'm gonna listen to shit 1046 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 4: for three years. Like there had to be some like 1047 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 4: just a handful that you just have to sit down 1048 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 4: and go, we're going to review it as it hit 1049 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 4: the radar and talk about it for X amount of 1050 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, you know, for x amount of time. But 1051 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 4: you know, it just had where that moment where I 1052 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 4: was like, so we can talk about you know, before 1053 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 4: sunset or before sunrise or whatever. It was like we 1054 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 4: could talk about that for an hour, and we can't 1055 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 4: talk about any of these movies for like twenty minutes 1056 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 4: or something. 1057 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 3: So it did kind of have that moment. 1058 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,959 Speaker 4: But it's like if they would have reviewed them and said, 1059 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 4: well I don't get it or I don't like it, 1060 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 4: I would have taken that too. It's like, well, hey, 1061 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 4: you didn't get it, I get it. At least you try. 1062 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 4: That's your be's part of your job, all right. 1063 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 8: Man. 1064 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 4: This is the Blackout Tests podcast. 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I only had one random thought 1110 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 4: and that was I saw we talked on the show 1111 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 4: the other day about Kentucky Fried Chicken is coming out 1112 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 4: with these things called go cups, and they're basically food 1113 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 4: that fits in your cup holder of your car made 1114 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 4: design in the cup. Yeah, like chicken wings and potato 1115 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 4: hedges a drink, right, KFC is new bowl? 1116 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 3: Oh you know, but they I saw. 1117 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 4: The commercial for it, and the commercial just happens to be. 1118 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 3: Like slightly racist like that was. 1119 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 4: It was two cops and the cops are like on patrol, 1120 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 4: and then like an emergency happens, right, and there's a 1121 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 4: white cop and a black cop, and the white cops like, oh, 1122 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 4: it's an emergency, we got to go out there and 1123 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,919 Speaker 4: help these people. And the black cop is like, yeah, 1124 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 4: you go ahead, and stays there and eats the chicken 1125 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 4: and doesn't get out the car. And I was like, 1126 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 4: you have to switch the races in this one, right, 1127 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 4: Like whoever whoever did like green lighted this commercial, they 1128 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 4: just needed like one black person on set to be like, 1129 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 4: no black dude goes to say the crime, white dude 1130 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 4: eats chicken. 1131 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 3: Come on, guys, can't that. 1132 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 6: Would eliminate the letters that you're getting ready to. 1133 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 4: Receive, right, you cannot have the black dude that will 1134 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 4: not save lives because of chicken. 1135 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 5: That. 1136 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 6: It was hilarious to me. 1137 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I laughed, but I was like me too, they 1138 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 4: have no idea, Like I just laughed because they fucked up. 1139 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,919 Speaker 3: All right. We talked about yuh for the last couple 1140 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 3: of days. 1141 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: Of course, the government is shut down, so uh, anybody 1142 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 4: that wants to like go out and do crime, now's 1143 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 4: the time. Guys do it at the national pause because 1144 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 4: they don't pay your taxes. Now, now's the time, you know, 1145 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 4: go to the store and when the store is like, 1146 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 4: that'll be three ninety five plus tax, you say, not 1147 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:30,919 Speaker 4: plus tax. 1148 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not paying for the shutdown, buddy. 1149 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 2: But uh, we're living out the prequel to the Purge. 1150 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 3: We might be man but getting steps. 1151 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 1152 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 6: You know. 1153 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 4: The other thing too, I like about it is I 1154 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 4: now have a new trash talking line that I used 1155 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 4: when I play basketball. Uh, if I play good defense 1156 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 4: on somebody, I'll say, oh, I'm gonna start calling you 1157 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 4: the federal government because you just got shut down. And uh, 1158 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 4: they all have the same roll their eyes annoyed reaction. 1159 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 4: But that's what I'm going for, you know. It's kind 1160 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 4: of like the writing and Riddick, like I want you 1161 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 4: to be annoyed. Well, apparently Republicans are not planning, of course, 1162 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 4: any new proposals to like stop the shut down. 1163 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 3: Because it's way too early for that. 1164 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 4: But they are thinking about like making some proposals to 1165 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 4: keep certain things open that people are getting pissed about, 1166 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 4: so that they can still say it's a shut down, 1167 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 4: but then people will be less pissed. For example, I'm 1168 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 4: on the riots. Well yeah, it's a political game obviously. 1169 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 4: And we said this at the beginning. You know, it 1170 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 4: was like we're gonna shut the government down except for 1171 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 4: the defense budget, Like, well, the defense budget is like 1172 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 4: the biggest part of the budget. Yeah, like we don't 1173 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 4: want any problems, all right, guys, those guys have the guns. 1174 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, House Republicans are planning no new proposals on 1175 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 4: the first day to shut down the fully funded go 1176 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: but they will introduce three small bills that would continue 1177 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 4: funding for veteran benefits, national parks, and museums, plus another 1178 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 4: measure that would allow the District of Columbia to continue 1179 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 4: operating using its own revenue, which would you know, eliminate 1180 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 4: a lot of those like hundreds of thousands of government 1181 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 4: jobs and people aren't like getting paid, so now you 1182 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 4: can just put it on the local budget and make 1183 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 4: the money come out of that so people won't miss 1184 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: checks and then it won't. It'll be like a quote 1185 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 4: unquote painless shutdown. 1186 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. The the thing about it that's funny though, is 1187 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 5: that I'm still giving you the sida. Y'all can put 1188 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 5: all these provisions, all quick to extend shit, but y'all 1189 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 5: can't do the big shit. 1190 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 6: Okay. 1191 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 4: Also, like, as you know, obviously, if the president passes it, 1192 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 4: it will make him look weak. And if he doesn't, 1193 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 4: then they can kind of go, well, it's his fault, guys, 1194 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 4: he won't even pass the damn thing we were trying, 1195 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of it is politics. They 1196 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 4: know that he can't budge and he kind of knows 1197 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 4: that they can't. But and then also it's it's sad 1198 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 4: that it's politics because this means that literally the idea 1199 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 4: that people will be going without and not getting a 1200 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 4: check is gonna be the only motivating factor to get 1201 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 4: the government back. 1202 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna have to be enough angry people. 1203 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 5: Right now, not enough people are angry. But you know, 1204 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 5: if it gets to the point where distracts out weeks 1205 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 5: and months, there will be a serious. 1206 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 6: People people will start showing up at these people. 1207 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 5: Houses, you know, and and it could get really ugly 1208 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 5: and really nasty, and I think they don't want to 1209 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 5: go there. And it's one of those things where it's 1210 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 5: a stare down. It's gonna be who's gonna blink first, 1211 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 5: the President of the Congress. But this is something me 1212 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 5: and Ross talked about this last night. We didn't have 1213 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 5: we didn't we never had to go here. This is 1214 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 5: something that could have been prevented. And it's one of 1215 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 5: them cans they kept kicking down the street because every 1216 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 5: time it came up, they never bought it up or 1217 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 5: either dale go around or they'll find money to extend 1218 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 5: it a little bit longer. 1219 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 6: And it's one of those things when we do talk, 1220 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 6: we don't want know too much of you. 1221 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 5: Well, we come back to this shit again right before Christmas. 1222 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 5: Go ahead and do whatever it is you got to 1223 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 5: do to solve this problem. 1224 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. And my first thought, I mean, I'm I'm 1225 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: no political expert or anything like that, but my first 1226 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 2: thought when I read this story Rod was I noticed, Okay, 1227 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 2: they wanted they want to keep funding veteran benefits. Okay, 1228 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 2: I think that's great, But one of the main things 1229 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 2: that they also want to keep funding is national parks 1230 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 2: and museums. And I was thinking to myself, Okay, why 1231 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 2: is that more important to you than say, bringing funding back, 1232 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,959 Speaker 2: either bringing you know, certain jobs back, or refunding something 1233 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 2: like the FDA or NASA or the EPA. And and 1234 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: you're right, I think it is playing politics. I mean 1235 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 2: national parks and museums. Those are public spaces. They're visible, 1236 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 2: and tourists that go to d C to visit some 1237 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 2: of these places, right, and then they realize that they 1238 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 2: can't get in now because the government is shut down. 1239 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 2: That's when people are gonna start noticing, Oh, yeah, the 1240 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 2: government's shut down. Maybe I should call my congressman. 1241 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's one of the national parks and museums. 1242 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 3: Is one of the. 1243 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 4: Things that the media has like lashed on too, because 1244 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 4: it's easy to send the camera out there and be like, look, 1245 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 4: the Yellowstone Gate is closed. There's Yogi bear, he's starving. 1246 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 4: There's no picking up basket. So like it kind of 1247 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 4: makes it more like, well, if we can get that open, 1248 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 4: then the media will probably like die off of this 1249 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 4: because you know, they're not gonna go find people who's 1250 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 4: like food stamps and welfare benefits have been cut and 1251 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 4: like assistance Yeah, that's not that's not as easy as 1252 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 4: just like putting the camera somewhere. 1253 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 6: That stay at home because you know, dey caa ain't 1254 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 6: open up today. 1255 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not as easy to like get people on 1256 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 4: board with. But it's very easy to be like, wait 1257 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 4: a minute, we can't go to Yellowstone. 1258 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1259 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 5: And I didn't realize this, And I guess it's because, 1260 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 5: like you said, because the media rolls on this. This 1261 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 5: time of the year is when people start going for 1262 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 5: like the fall leaves and all that stuff. So people 1263 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 5: are like, hey, you're affected whole economies that kind of hotels, 1264 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 5: you know, people counceling the hotel reservations, campsite reservations, and 1265 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 5: so people are losing lily billions of dollars. 1266 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 6: Across the country. People going, oh, y'all shut down counsel. 1267 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 6: My shit, I'm not going now. 1268 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 4: Like we got an email and I won't say the 1269 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 4: guy's name because you know he's currently like working for 1270 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 4: the government and stuff. But he wrote me and said good, 1271 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 4: good start to the podcast. The troops will get paid 1272 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 4: just hell of late if the shutdown happens. Contractors will 1273 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 4: get an extended unpaid vacation. Some of those folks were 1274 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 4: crying in there at work, And by crying he means 1275 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 4: literally not like. 1276 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 6: Winding, no liv big tears. Yes. 1277 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 9: Uh. 1278 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 4: It even trickles down to the bagging guy in the 1279 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 4: commissary or grocery store for a bit, he gets money 1280 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 4: and then his benefits cut off. 1281 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 1282 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 4: Kind of feels like they used us as hostages to agendas. 1283 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna get my money. 1284 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 4: Eventually they will not no insurance, no unemployment in a 1285 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: few days, sudden they get cast into limbo. Anyway, dude, 1286 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 4: love you getting that out there. You know what I do. 1287 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 4: When I heard the same ah that he wrote, he 1288 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 4: wrote something about the post that I made about grand 1289 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 4: theft auto but he basically says, if grand theft auto 1290 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 4: radio gets repetitive, turn it off and listen to podcasts. 1291 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 3: So thanks, thanks man for writing us. 1292 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, Man's it kind of is just just like, 1293 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 4: you know, this big ass game to these people. 1294 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 6: But they really are playing with people's lives. 1295 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1296 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 5: And the thing about it is right now is small 1297 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 5: because the average American citizen this does not affect. But 1298 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 5: for the people it does affect, it's a huge impact. 1299 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 5: If the breadmaker of your household, bread winner brand maker, 1300 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 5: bread winner of your household does not know when they paychecks. 1301 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 6: You on to come and if the brand winner of your. 1302 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 4: Household did not get paid yesterday, right, yeah, that was 1303 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 4: the first right, yes, But hey, don't worry about it, guys. 1304 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Now, I know as a movie critic, you'll definitely. 1305 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 4: Appreciate this, Andrew, AMC Movie Theaters is stepping up in 1306 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 4: the absence of the federal government, you know, giving people 1307 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 4: their money and said, look, don't worry about it. Federal 1308 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 4: employees impacted by the government shut down can use their 1309 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 4: free time to see a movie and get free popcorn 1310 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 4: at the courtesy of AMC Theaters. 1311 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 6: Oh they ain't say free. 1312 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 3: Movies, Uh no, free free popcorn. 1313 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 6: They didn't get paid. 1314 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, well, it does say in this article that the 1315 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 2: purchase of the ticket is not necessary to receive the 1316 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 2: article to receive the offer. So I guess that means 1317 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 2: that there are any starving federal employees who need something 1318 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 2: to eat, they can go to their local AMC and 1319 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 2: get some popcorn on even if they can't afford to 1320 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: buy a ticket. 1321 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that popcorn is like currency, you know, because popcorn. 1322 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve dollars for some free popcorn. 1323 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 4: You know, you go out in the parking lot hustle 1324 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 4: that you know, so turn around now you make it 1325 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 4: twelve dollars a box. 1326 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 3: Man like you gotta you guys gotta think outside the 1327 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 3: box man. Don't let the government hold you down. 1328 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 4: Speaking of the government holding people down, Tom Clancy is dead, y'all. 1329 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: That's right, first casualty of the government shut down there. 1330 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wrote a lot of books about the government 1331 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 4: and then ironically he was shut down on Tuesday. 1332 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 5: Ain't just the dude the video games? Yeah that Tom Lord, 1333 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 5: did I tak that one too? But no, but he 1334 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 5: is the same dude. 1335 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he does have several video games franchises based off 1336 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 4: of books. 1337 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 6: That he's written, billions of dollars. 1338 01:07:58,880 --> 01:07:59,919 Speaker 3: Of course, he has a movie. 1339 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 4: He's The Hunt for Red October, Red October, Patriot Games, 1340 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 4: Clear and Present Danger, the character Jack Ryan, which has 1341 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 4: been played by seventy five different white dudes. 1342 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 3: That dude is his, So like, you know, rest in 1343 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: peace man, he was. 1344 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,879 Speaker 4: He created a lot of cool, impossible white men, especially 1345 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 4: you know, a genre that is near and dear to 1346 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 4: our hearts here. So you know, he's definitely in the 1347 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 4: Black Autills Hall of fame man, Rest in peace, Tom Clancy. 1348 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 4: I thought this article is funny. It's not guess the 1349 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 4: race or anything, but it's just funny. A radio shack 1350 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 4: worker punched the customer for being sarcastic. 1351 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 5: A They must have got fed up, like, look, I 1352 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 5: will not take you criticizing me no more. This other 1353 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 5: customer just cussed me out by some divided D batteries 1354 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 5: we do not have in radio shack? 1355 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 6: Could we the only people that have D batteries? 1356 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1357 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 4: Anyone that's ever worked behind a countering anything knows this 1358 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 4: is kind of everybody's wet dream. 1359 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 5: Like man, Yeah, because a lot of people are very, 1360 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 5: very very nasty to people when it comes to customers, especially. 1361 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 4: The sarcastic one. Yes, because you know it's like, well, 1362 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 4: can I help you anything? Can I help you with anything? 1363 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 3: Can you like? 1364 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 5: Oh, man, I punched that person right, you know, Yes, 1365 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 5: this this is my job. 1366 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 6: Because somebody asks people go to real shak. 1367 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, radio shack is one of the few 1368 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 5: places it's almost like. 1369 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 6: Game stop where you could go in and ask. 1370 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 5: Them questions and they actually kind of know what the 1371 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 5: fuck you ask. 1372 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 6: But yeah, can I have a transit thore? 1373 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 1374 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we got transition real back can what kind of 1375 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 6: transit three? Oh you need? 1376 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 5: They can kind of go through it with you versus 1377 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 5: you looking and they hunching their shoulders, you hunching your 1378 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 5: shoulders and everybody lost. 1379 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Radio shack is like one step up from the 1380 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 3: pawn shop. 1381 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 6: It is. 1382 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,839 Speaker 4: It's almost scary. Sometimes it feels illegal to be in there. Yes, 1383 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Like I don't know why, it just doesn't feel official, 1384 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 4: like I like when I they have And then the 1385 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 4: other thing about radio Shack that I think you don't 1386 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 4: learn until you like try to get into podcast. You know, 1387 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 4: you have to deal with some type of technical computer stuff. 1388 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 3: They have a chord for everything. 1389 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 6: Yes, because we got we had like the most obscure court. 1390 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you have to a three one, five, two six, Yes, 1391 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 5: we got that one with you like red, blue, green, orange. 1392 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 4: I mean like they have chords that will like connect 1393 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 4: a car battery to like a USB port. 1394 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 3: Yes, Like I don't like, it's just weird shit. 1395 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't even make sense, like, oh yeah, this 1396 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,680 Speaker 4: is a chord that it takes like uh, like the 1397 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 4: ability to lactate and you can power a MP three 1398 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 4: player with it, Like who thought of this? 1399 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 6: And we have an adapter that also allows you to 1400 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:46,839 Speaker 6: hook it up to HGTV. 1401 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's is. It is amazing, and it's always 1402 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 3: ship that you know. 1403 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 4: I ride around town searching every other store for I 1404 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 4: can't find it nowhere. I go to Radio Shack and 1405 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 4: it's like the person the media is like, oh, yeah, 1406 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 4: that's right here. 1407 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 6: Yes, you're the fifth person. 1408 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 4: And it will cost twice what you probably think it 1409 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 4: should cost. But that's just at that point, it doesn't matter. 1410 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 4: They're the only game in town that has these like 1411 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 4: weird ass connections, Like you know, they were the only 1412 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 4: people I could find that had the old school USB 1413 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 4: ports that connected to a new school USB port, and 1414 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 4: that ship seems like it doesn't matter until you have 1415 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 4: a generation one iPod, Yes, a Generation one iPod with 1416 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 4: a screen with the will that clicks like it literally moves, 1417 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 4: it's not sensing your finger. It looks like a big 1418 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 4: ass break. I rock with mine for a very long 1419 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 4: Only Radio Shack had that ship, and I went everywhere. 1420 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 4: I went to comp Usa, and I've never stepped in 1421 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 4: a comp Usa in my. 1422 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 3: Life until that day. It was like, what the hell 1423 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 3: is this? 1424 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,519 Speaker 4: Everything in comp Usa is covered with dust like Indiana 1425 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 4: Jones Temples. 1426 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 3: And and it's and and even in there they didn't 1427 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 3: have the chords. 1428 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, that's me though, that they would have 1429 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 2: stuff like that, because I I was actually I was 1430 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 2: walking around the mall yesterday and I saw a radio 1431 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 2: shack and I thought, wait, radio shacks still exists, right, 1432 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. 1433 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 4: I know where, I know where the radio shacks are 1434 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 4: in Charlotte, and even still when I go there, I'm 1435 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 4: still surprised of there. Yes, you know, I'm like, well, 1436 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 4: I guess I'll go to radio shack and pick it up. Wow, 1437 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 4: they're still open. 1438 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 3: Look at you. Wow, that's amazing. 1439 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 6: One day I will come here and sit close sign. 1440 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 3: But until then, right, selling cell phones and yes. 1441 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 4: And first generation cell phone yeah, and and and and 1442 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 4: cords that connect a cassette tape to a to a 1443 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 4: h T to a HDTV. 1444 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 2: How How did radio shacks survive but Circuit City didn't. 1445 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 2: That just boggles my mind. 1446 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what. 1447 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 5: I was actually listening to the NPR and they were 1448 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 5: saying they were actually was covering this, and they said 1449 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 5: the bigger vision of wives because like like to say, 1450 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 5: they have such obscure stuff. 1451 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 6: That people actually need. 1452 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 5: That people will go there and play twice as much 1453 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 5: because they don't want to do with Walmart. They don't 1454 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 5: want to be lost in the other sections and things 1455 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 5: like that, or either like there, Like I said, they 1456 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 5: want a few people to sells like the size D 1457 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 5: extra wide batteries and shit like that you can't find 1458 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 5: nowhere else. 1459 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 6: I mean you can google it online, but you're. 1460 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 5: Like, hey, by time away for somebody to get here. 1461 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 5: I could just go pay twice as much a going 1462 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 5: and come home. 1463 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1464 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 4: I have no idea why Circuit City didn't work, honestly, 1465 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 4: although I will say this, those people never knew what 1466 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 4: the fuck they were talking about, so that's probably got something. 1467 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 3: To do with it. Oh and I always lost in confused. 1468 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they never had like Best Buy does it too, 1469 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 4: But somehow they're staying in business. 1470 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 6: But I don't. 1471 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 3: I hate places like that where I'm starting. 1472 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 4: I guess the older I get, the more I'm feeling 1473 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 4: like I appreciate people that know what the fuck they're 1474 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 4: talking about. 1475 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 6: Me too. 1476 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 3: I used to just be like, I like a cheap price, 1477 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 3: I'll take the time to look for it myself. 1478 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 4: But now I'm grown, and I'm just like, point me 1479 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 4: to the exact shit I want. 1480 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 3: Yes, this is taking this. I don't have all day. 1481 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 6: No, I don't have time, you know. 1482 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,799 Speaker 5: And once you and I'm to the point now where 1483 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, I have a question about this, and 1484 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 5: I don't know a lot of people have customer services 1485 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,480 Speaker 5: almost going at the window. Yes they are ass whole customers. 1486 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 5: But also when I ask you a question, I do 1487 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 5: expect you to know something. 1488 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, now listen, if you're in the chat room, brace yourself, guys. Okay, 1489 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 4: about to show you the scariest thing you probably see 1490 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 4: this year. And I'm talking about scarier than the purge. 1491 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 3: What's that huge? 1492 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 5: Oh? 1493 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 4: That those are Chinese hornets that are going around and. 1494 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 3: Terrorizing and killing people. 1495 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 6: Oh shit, you serious. 1496 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 4: According to recent reports out of China, twenty one people 1497 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 4: have died as a result of washed things over the 1498 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 4: past three months in the province of Shangxi alone. It 1499 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,120 Speaker 4: might be time to just pack up our bags and 1500 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 4: turned to the moons we came from. According to the 1501 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 4: snarky article. But yeah, there's been more frequent hornet attacks 1502 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 4: than usual in China this year. 1503 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 3: People are you know, get dozens of people are dying. 1504 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 4: Twenty eight people have died and the hundreds have been 1505 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 4: injured in a wave of attacks by giant hornets in 1506 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 4: central China. Victims subscribed being chased for hundreds of meters 1507 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 4: oh shit by the creatures and stung as many as 1508 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 4: two hundred times. Most of the attacks in the past 1509 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 4: three months were remote, rural, wooded areas in the southern 1510 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 4: Shaanxi province of China's Business. 1511 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,480 Speaker 3: China's Business newspaper recorded in the city. 1512 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 4: Of a Kong alone, eighteen people have died from the stings. 1513 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 4: Health official Zhao yung Hong told Associated Press people in 1514 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 4: the city of Headsong and Shanglow have also been injured 1515 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 4: the insects. 1516 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 3: Highly toxic stings. 1517 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 4: Can lead to anaphylectic shop and renal failure, and official 1518 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 4: from an Kon's Disease Control Center urged people to seek 1519 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 4: medical help if they receive more than ten stings. 1520 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Can you imagine counting like it's only nine? 1521 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 4: I guess I'll be okay, and warned the emergency treatment 1522 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 4: that was required for any sting anyone stung more than 1523 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 4: thirty times. One woman was in her fifties and she 1524 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 4: had to spend almost a month in the hospital and 1525 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 4: was still in continent at the receiving more than two 1526 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 4: hundred stings. A man from her village died. He actually 1527 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 4: died from kidney failure. Oh shit, this is like the 1528 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 4: scariest shit ever. Like they huge, just shit, Like, yeah, 1529 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 4: that's the thing, guys, If you ever I might make 1530 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 4: it the show art. But these hornets literally as big 1531 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 4: as your hand is wide across and the stingers are 1532 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 4: so long. 1533 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 2: I think we just discovered the next big villains in 1534 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 2: uh in sci fi original movies right here. You know, 1535 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 2: they got mega octopus and Gatoroid. I think now it's 1536 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 2: time for giant hornet. 1537 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hornet Nato or yeah, yeah, I would definitely watch Yeah, 1538 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 4: I would definitely watch Hornicane. 1539 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 3: I would definitely watch that. 1540 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 5: That would be cool, just a behive with a big 1541 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 5: old hurricane floating around it. 1542 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,679 Speaker 3: They're like they're so big. 1543 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 4: They look like models, you know what I mean, like 1544 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 4: like toys or something that your kids would play with. 1545 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 4: But they are hornets. So Akiya in the chat says, 1546 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 4: are those the hornets from the horn Hunger Games? They 1547 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 4: they look like the hornets from the Hunger Games. 1548 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 5: Do I need to get on my Patt and to 1549 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 5: have ray in the in the in the Uh carry 1550 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,760 Speaker 5: on then you know how we got the ray and 1551 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 5: the big ass cano. 1552 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,839 Speaker 6: Can I have like a small version. 1553 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 5: I just kind of carry on me at all times 1554 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 5: in cases, I don't walk up on me after sprays as. 1555 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,599 Speaker 3: I honestly feel like ray wouldn't work on these. 1556 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 4: I feel like these hornets are like the alcade of hornets, 1557 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 4: like or they like they actually have like terrace cells, 1558 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 4: they like plot ship, they like. 1559 01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 5: Oh this so they're taking out all the all the 1560 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 5: beat house. You know, we gotta take them hundred bees. 1561 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 4: Outre I feel like these hornets would like find a 1562 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,520 Speaker 4: way past your alarm system and the house before. 1563 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 2: They stumbled into some gamma radiations. 1564 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, something happened. 1565 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 2: The whole cornets. Yeah they're all bucks spray. 1566 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are our huke nets. 1567 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 6: These are you set them on fine and keep coming 1568 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 6: at you. 1569 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 3: Uh. 1570 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 4: This says hornets attacks have been a recurring problem in 1571 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,240 Speaker 4: the area from May as the late as November. 1572 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,679 Speaker 3: So they even stay awake even when it's getting cold. 1573 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 3: There's still like I can steam one more person. 1574 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,719 Speaker 6: Oh do they not hibernating like we right here all 1575 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 6: year long? 1576 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,760 Speaker 4: H well made to November, so I guess you know 1577 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 4: after November. Before May, right, thirty six people died in 1578 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,640 Speaker 4: the city. Seven hundred and fifteen were injured between two 1579 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 4: thousand and two two thousand and five, but Zoo says 1580 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,639 Speaker 4: the issue had been particularly severe this year, possibly because 1581 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 4: the weather changes. Well, China does not really believe in 1582 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,680 Speaker 4: global warming, so maybe this will change some shit up. 1583 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 5: I know, I ain't got the truth, like we believe, 1584 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 5: we believe God, damn, what do we need to do? 1585 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 6: Don't steam me, no mold? 1586 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, We'll cut some of the fucking pipe some 1587 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 4: of the smoke pipes off. 1588 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:39,719 Speaker 3: Okay, guys. 1589 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 4: Experts have suggested that it's the warmer temperatures in the 1590 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 4: area have led the hornets to breathe more successfully, that 1591 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 4: laborers have been moving deep into the areas where they 1592 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 4: may disturb nests, and that the insects are sensitive the 1593 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 4: chemicals found in food and cosmetics, where they get angry 1594 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,839 Speaker 4: when they hear it out like what it means sensitive. 1595 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 4: They only especially consent maybe the scent and the perfume 1596 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 4: people out there wearing. Oh okay, and it kind of like, okay, 1597 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 4: something out here other than us, They attack humans only 1598 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 4: if disturbed, but they are carnivorous and can quickly destroy 1599 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 4: bee colonies. 1600 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 3: So they kill they do be after them bees. 1601 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, so apparently their fire service has removed over three 1602 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 4: hundred hornets nest this summer, but experts said that the 1603 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 4: problem was unlikely to end entirely until the temperature drops. 1604 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 6: Data strong. 1605 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 5: When the temperature drops and and everybody's chilling hibernation mold. 1606 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's harder to find them. I 1607 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:40,640 Speaker 3: don't know. 1608 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Moscow, a Ukrainian couple got a shock when they were 1609 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 4: having some sex. An attempt to spice up that sex 1610 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 4: life went badly wrong in the middle for a middle 1611 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,840 Speaker 4: aged couple in central Ukraine when they were run over 1612 01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 4: by a train while having sex on the railro tracks. 1613 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 6: They didn't hit the train coming to the train sneak 1614 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 6: up on him. 1615 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1616 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,560 Speaker 6: I guess you didn't have his lights turned out. 1617 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 3: I guess she had a train right up on her. 1618 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,560 Speaker 2: It's those special Russian stealth trains. 1619 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:18,120 Speaker 4: Right, Maybe that's what it is. Maybe she was getting 1620 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 4: it in the kaboose when the caboose hit her. The 1621 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 4: woman died on the spot. The man lost both legs 1622 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,560 Speaker 4: and was hospitalized. 1623 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh how did he live? I don't know. 1624 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 4: The man and his girlfriend failed to overcome the national 1625 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 4: natural passions when walking home and wanted to experience an 1626 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,519 Speaker 4: extreme sensation near the railroad tracks. 1627 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:41,120 Speaker 3: Well they did. 1628 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 6: Well, you couldn't have did it off the tracks. 1629 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think there's anything more extreme than being 1630 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 4: horribly maimed or dying. 1631 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, ain't no sex that good? 1632 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 2: Well, obviously he was on top and was able to 1633 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 2: push himself off. 1634 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 4: Yehind possibly yeah, yeah, saddest part is that he didn't 1635 01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 4: get that sandwich afterwards. 1636 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,640 Speaker 3: So nope, you always have to regret that. 1637 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like, dammit, she almost made the three. 1638 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 3: Hundred the duck. 1639 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 4: The duo will run over by a switcher locomotives, the 1640 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 4: report said, adding that the incident took place near the 1641 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 4: city of Zazapoor. 1642 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 6: Right. 1643 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 4: I don't know how to pronounce that shit, And on 1644 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 4: early Saturday morning, the industry did not release the victim's name, 1645 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 4: saying only that the man was forty one and the 1646 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 4: woman appeared to be thirty something and made of peanut 1647 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 4: butter and jelly. 1648 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 6: At this point, of course, I say white, I know 1649 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 6: we're not paying. 1650 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 4: Yesster rais right, Disney World. Who else is a fan 1651 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 4: of disney World, Land of Magic and Wonder and enjoy? Well, 1652 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 4: you know who else. 1653 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 3: You know what I like. 1654 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 4: About disney World, Karen, is that they're kind of like me. 1655 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 4: They're about fairness, Like you know how I will park 1656 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 4: in a pregnant woman's handicapped space at the at the 1657 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 4: YMCA because it's the closest one. 1658 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 6: If I'm in a rush, I do the carpool. 1659 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 4: And being pregnant is a choice. I didn't make that choice. 1660 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 4: Oh that's your fault. I gotta live with the world 1661 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 4: where you're knocked up. I gotta be nicer than you. 1662 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 4: Come on, lady. 1663 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 3: Well. Fans of Walt Disney World were. 1664 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 4: Fuman last frame following reports of people gaming the system 1665 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,720 Speaker 4: that allowed disabled part guests to advance to the. 1666 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 3: Front of the line. Now it seems the entitled few 1667 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 3: have ruined it for everyone. 1668 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 4: Disney Parks has just announced a changing policy. People with 1669 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,600 Speaker 4: disabilities will no longer be allowed to go to the 1670 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 4: front of the line. 1671 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think we even read stories where people 1672 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 5: were like faking their children being sick and things like that, 1673 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 5: or or come up with people in wheelchairs and things 1674 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 5: like that when they really wasn't disabling. What's unfair is 1675 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,839 Speaker 5: this You won't the quote unquote advantages of being disabled, 1676 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 5: but your ass really don't want to be disabled, because 1677 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,679 Speaker 5: being disabled ain't no joke. 1678 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be a real discussion person to be like, 1679 01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 4: all right, Timmy, I wait, I'm gonna need needs you 1680 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 4: to walk with a limp. All right, we are gonna 1681 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,400 Speaker 4: get We're gonna know, we're gonna get to go. 1682 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 3: See it's a small world. 1683 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 4: But Timmy, I donna need you to walk with your 1684 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 4: foot a little bit lippy, like, turn that foot inwards, 1685 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna need you to talk a little funny. 1686 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 4: Do you want to get on the rod or not? 1687 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 4: You know, that's a lot of pressure for a little kid, 1688 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,720 Speaker 4: And of course they do it. I do it if 1689 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 4: I was like eight, I don't know the fucking difference, 1690 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 4: you know. And now I'm complicit in your crime, but 1691 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 4: defrauding people that are actually you know, standing in line 1692 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 4: to get on. 1693 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 3: The rid man. 1694 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 5: And I feel bad for like children with like children 1695 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 5: with real disabilities, adults with ryal disabilities that now a 1696 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 5: lot of them may not even come because I say, hey, uh, 1697 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 5: we for whatever disability is, we can't wait three hours 1698 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 5: in a line. 1699 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 4: Yep, it certainly has been problematic. We wanted to curb 1700 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 4: some of the abuse to the system. Further than a 1701 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 4: statement by Disney provided by to Yahoo Shine through a spokesperson, 1702 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 4: know that we have an un wavering commitment to make 1703 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 4: our parks accessible to all guests. Given the increase in 1704 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 4: volume of request we received for special access to our attractions, 1705 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 4: we are changing our process to create a little more 1706 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,920 Speaker 4: consistent experience for all our guests while providing accommodation for 1707 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 4: guests with disabilities. We engage disability groups such as Autism 1708 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 4: Speaks to develop this new process, which is in line 1709 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 4: with the rest of our industry. So yeah, no more 1710 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,400 Speaker 4: skipping the line for you guys. You ruined it for everybody. 1711 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 5: I was waiting anyway, so it don't effect me, but 1712 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 5: I just feel bad for people that have rid disability. 1713 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 4: Well, now you gotta wait like me, you see, because 1714 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 4: you took it too far. Did you guys know that 1715 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:49,320 Speaker 4: there is a venezuela in prison that is off the hook? Okay, 1716 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 4: it has a swimming pool. I don't know if it's 1717 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 4: keeping fit or it's just like to relax. 1718 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,759 Speaker 5: I don't you know, I'll be scared they drawing themselves 1719 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 5: to somebody else. 1720 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 4: But they have a swimming pool. They have overnight accommodations 1721 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:07,639 Speaker 4: for guests. 1722 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 3: That's right. You can have overnight guests at your prison. 1723 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 6: What is a prison resort? 1724 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 3: Hey, man, come to the prison man, hang out this weekend. 1725 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 2: It's for conjugal visits. 1726 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeah, keep them all night, not just five 1727 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 4: minute hand job and you know over by the commissary. Nope, 1728 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 4: talking all night, sexyton guys. A plenty of places to drink, 1729 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 4: and even somewhere to treat yourself to some tasted barbecue chicken. 1730 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 4: This is no fancy tours, attraction or result resort. It's 1731 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:44,639 Speaker 4: a prison. Come villit, Come visit Venezuelan's Venezuela's San Antonio prison, 1732 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 4: the place that's so nice and comfortable that many inmates 1733 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 4: never want to leave. One inmate ah, one inmate Ricardo, 1734 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 4: a drug traffick hotels, SBS Dateline reporter Giovanna Vittola, how 1735 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 4: good they really have it? I found a I found 1736 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 4: a place with barbecue chicken. There are places to drink. 1737 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 4: It is not like a prison, he says, Vinetola was 1738 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 4: given unprecedented access to the place criminals in Venezuela dream 1739 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 4: about being sent to. Her footage was which was shot 1740 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 4: entirely on her iPhone. On the airs on Dateline Tonight, 1741 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 4: reveals relative comfort inmates enjoy while incarcerated, as guards walk 1742 01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 4: care free around the facility. Inmates and guests can be 1743 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 4: seen dancing, enjoying a barbecue, even swimming in the pool 1744 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 4: with their partners and families. But Toola was given access 1745 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 4: by a criminal by the criminal in charge of the 1746 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,759 Speaker 4: prison known as the Rabbit, so they're not even hiding 1747 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 4: at the prison. That the Chris inmates charge of the prison. Wow, 1748 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 4: it's like I would like to, you know, get a 1749 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 4: guest past. Well, let me ask the Rabbit. We'll see 1750 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 4: what we can do for you, ma'am. Her footage goes 1751 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,040 Speaker 4: on the show how many inmates live comfortably while there 1752 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 4: for the duration of their sentences and others who have 1753 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 4: it so good they don't want to leave. One woman 1754 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,759 Speaker 4: shown on the footage reveals how inmates have access the guns, 1755 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,320 Speaker 4: drugs and everything. 1756 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,640 Speaker 6: It's probably like its own little city. 1757 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 3: I feel like, and everything means sex. 1758 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, and prostitutes and the whole nine. 1759 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the unusual take on prison reform isn't without 1760 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 4: his critics, with many questions and how the culture of guns, 1761 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,759 Speaker 4: violence and drugs is allowed to take place. 1762 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 3: It's not the first time the prison has made headlines. 1763 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 4: In April, it was revealed that San Antonio located in 1764 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 4: the Villazuella Allen and Margarita. 1765 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 3: Well, hey, there's the problem right there. 1766 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, open up a nightclub for inmates, complete with DJs, 1767 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 4: lights and strippers. 1768 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,800 Speaker 6: Not the nightclub. 1769 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 3: DJ andcars operation on the ones and twos. We go to. 1770 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 6: God by day, party by night? 1771 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 2: Right? Do they have to pay for this stuff? Is 1772 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 2: there some sort of economic system in place? Like, Okay, 1773 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 2: you can go to the strip club, but it's gonna 1774 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 2: cost you five packs of cigarettes. 1775 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 4: Right, Uh, you got to come up off with some 1776 01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 4: of those oatmeal cream pis. 1777 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, you can definitely come to the party tonight. 1778 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 4: Iris Virella, who runs the country's prison system, defended the move, 1779 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 4: saying it reduced violence and improved the quality of life 1780 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 4: for inmates. Vellezuela's prisons are notorious for having the highest 1781 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 4: level of overcrowded in Latin America. Originally built to house 1782 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 4: fourteen thousand inmates. The country prisons now hold about fifty 1783 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,639 Speaker 4: thousand and often have low. 1784 01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 3: Sanitary standards and high levels of violence. 1785 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 6: So I guess we will have to pay this and 1786 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 6: have them killing each other. 1787 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 4: I guess so, man, the prison was like that, I 1788 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 4: guess a lot more people wouldn't mind going true. All right, 1789 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 4: let's go ahead and get into well, actually, no, I 1790 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,400 Speaker 4: actually have one more article. 1791 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:44,480 Speaker 3: Two more articles. They're about famous people, okay, movie stars 1792 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 3: quote unquote. 1793 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 4: Amanda Bonds has been formally diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. 1794 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 4: And it's funny because of all the things that we 1795 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 4: joke on about this show, we've never really gotten in 1796 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 4: to any Amanda Bond shit, be cause I always have 1797 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 4: this like like some people they are acting out in 1798 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,599 Speaker 4: such a weird way where you just go something must 1799 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 4: be wrong with him, like they can't like this is 1800 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 4: so not normal. There's no end game, Like there's certain 1801 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 4: type of people, like say a Kardashian does something and 1802 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,280 Speaker 4: you go, okay, what is the show like premiere next week? 1803 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,759 Speaker 5: Is that's funny? But when it was like okay, something 1804 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 5: is not even not even. 1805 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,559 Speaker 4: Funny, Karen, I just mean like It's like, did you 1806 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,639 Speaker 4: guys know Kim Kardashian was seen walking with her baby 1807 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,440 Speaker 4: and holding a bottle of wine or something. 1808 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,040 Speaker 3: Like, Okay, what what's what's going on? You know, like 1809 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 3: what what's coming up? 1810 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 6: Is the season premiere is next week? 1811 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:48,840 Speaker 8: Right? 1812 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, you know, Kim Kim and the Baby 1813 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 4: is coming up with his own series on E Right. 1814 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,400 Speaker 4: But Amanda Bonds is just doing crazy shit and there 1815 01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 4: was no fucking like, there's no reality show coming out, 1816 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 4: there's no album coming out, there's no movie coming out. 1817 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 3: It's just like her being crazy. 1818 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 4: Well apparently she's been formally diagnosed with schizophrenia and the 1819 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:12,959 Speaker 4: bipolar disorder. 1820 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 3: I feel like it explains so much shit, Yes, it does. 1821 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 4: You know, the wigs, the weird ass like drug stuff 1822 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 4: she got in trouble with, freaking out on the cops, 1823 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 4: claiming the cops were like trying to fill her vagina 1824 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, like just weird stuff that she 1825 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:31,000 Speaker 4: was bringing up. 1826 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, yep. 1827 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 4: Her parents released a statement saying that upon the recommendation 1828 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,519 Speaker 4: of healthcare professions at the UCLA Medical Center, Bias is 1829 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,880 Speaker 4: receiving specialized treatment in the facility outside of Los Angeles 1830 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,240 Speaker 4: parents also assisted that their trouble daughter was making great 1831 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 4: strives towards recovery, and she's been hospitalized for psychiatric evaluation 1832 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 4: or she was hospitalized for psychiatric evaluation allegedly at the 1833 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,760 Speaker 4: setting fire in a fire in a California your neighborhood 1834 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,719 Speaker 4: and was later transferred to UCLA Medical Center for further treatment. 1835 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 3: You know the other thing too, man, It could be 1836 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 3: some drug shit too. 1837 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,839 Speaker 4: You know a lot of these people get on drugs 1838 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,400 Speaker 4: and they're all fucked up. 1839 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 6: Man, And I can't handle that's doing it for years too. 1840 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 3: Yep. 1841 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 2: Well, well, well do you think this this is going 1842 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 2: to change anything? Do you think this is going to 1843 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 2: change how the media portrays Amanda Binds or how people 1844 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 2: on the internet treat Amanda Binds. I don't think it's 1845 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 2: going to change anything at all. 1846 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,799 Speaker 6: It's sad, that's a true sad statement. 1847 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,640 Speaker 4: I think it'll change if her behavior changes, you know 1848 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,799 Speaker 4: what I mean, because if, like if if she shows 1849 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 4: up in a blond wig with the shades on and 1850 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 4: wearing pajamas in the middle of the street, No, it 1851 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 4: won't change because people don't really give a fuck about 1852 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 4: anyone's mental care. As long as long as it's funny 1853 01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 4: or mockable, then people are gonna roll with that. But 1854 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,439 Speaker 4: if like say, she did get treatment and she was 1855 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 4: able to like kind of become a spokesperson to talk 1856 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,160 Speaker 4: about some of these issues or use her celebrity to 1857 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,880 Speaker 4: like draw attention to it and tell people like, you know, 1858 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 4: get diagnosed, you know, pay, I think you would see 1859 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,800 Speaker 4: some people change, you know, like but it w was 1860 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 4: all it is all based on her and then our 1861 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 4: perception of quote unquote her changing. You know, that's my 1862 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,519 Speaker 4: prediction anyway. But we'll see what she does, because she 1863 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,640 Speaker 4: might just want to chill. She might not want she 1864 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 4: might just be like, can I go home and work 1865 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 4: on my own sanity for my own health sake? You know, 1866 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, totally is I think if she wants people 1867 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,599 Speaker 4: to view her certain ways, she could, but you know, 1868 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,479 Speaker 4: totally up to her. This is also where Mia Farrell, 1869 01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 4: who was married, of course to Woody Allen. 1870 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,000 Speaker 3: She has a son twenty five years old. 1871 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 4: She just told Vanity Fair in the in the November 1872 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 4: issue that Frank Sinatra might possibly be the father of 1873 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:02,800 Speaker 4: her son. 1874 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 3: Her son who thought Woody Allen was his father all 1875 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:08,599 Speaker 3: this time. 1876 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:13,760 Speaker 4: Wow, celebrities are crazy, man, Like, why would you just 1877 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,519 Speaker 4: tell the world some ship like this? 1878 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,960 Speaker 2: Like we did her son not know according to this? 1879 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 3: Uh no, Woody Allen thought he was his father. 1880 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,639 Speaker 2: Did she not talk to Woody Allen or her son 1881 01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,200 Speaker 2: before doing this interview? 1882 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 1883 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,280 Speaker 6: I don't. 1884 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,639 Speaker 2: I don't. 1885 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:34,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 1886 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:35,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1887 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if this is how they are founding out. 1888 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 4: But I will go on a limb and say, uh, 1889 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 4: this is probably not how they want the world to 1890 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 4: find out. 1891 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 6: Ain't that truth? 1892 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 8: You know what I mean. 1893 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 4: It's like if I if your mom said, Andrew, listen, 1894 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,840 Speaker 4: this is gonna be tough to tell you. But your 1895 01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 4: father's not your real father. There's or possibly not. There's 1896 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,240 Speaker 4: a speculation it might have been another guy. Okay, And 1897 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, mom, that was a tough talk. I 1898 01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,360 Speaker 4: need to think about this, and I'm glad you help me. 1899 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,640 Speaker 4: And then also I told Vanity Fair So that'll be 1900 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 4: out of November. 1901 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 3: You might just might want to look out for that. 1902 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 6: Ye'll be calling you soon. 1903 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you might see a couple of articles, a couple 1904 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 4: of internets, get a couple of texts, pictures. 1905 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,760 Speaker 3: Also the fact that there's no fraternity test done like. 1906 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,559 Speaker 6: That was my question. It's like, when you want that. 1907 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 5: Done to confirm that before you just kind of blank 1908 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,599 Speaker 5: me pull it out there, because now you're talking about 1909 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,200 Speaker 5: a whole nother set of family to go. 1910 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. But yeah, anyway, that was weird. Not gonna get 1911 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 4: too far to that. We do have some games to play, guys, 1912 01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,280 Speaker 4: and uh, you know I would not be it wouldn't 1913 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 4: be the black Out Tests and we didn't get to 1914 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,639 Speaker 4: our game section. So, uh, first game first, we have 1915 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 4: fucking with Black people. Let me get my game. 1916 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 3: Music, and uh, here we go. 1917 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:00,439 Speaker 2: Back. 1918 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,200 Speaker 3: That's right, It's time to play fucking with black people. 1919 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,640 Speaker 4: It's a game that we play around here on the 1920 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 4: Blackout Tests where we find different articles from around the 1921 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,840 Speaker 4: world and uh we rate them on scale from zero 1922 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 4: to one hundred for fucking. 1923 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 3: With black people. Today's article. 1924 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,679 Speaker 6: Wait, I said, we done got jazzy. 1925 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1926 01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever got that far into the 1927 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 4: music before. And I'm I can't even see my article. 1928 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:40,320 Speaker 4: What happened my article? Huh uh, I may have lost 1929 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,200 Speaker 4: my article. Maybe we get to day out from fucking 1930 01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 4: with black people? 1931 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,040 Speaker 3: Oh nah, I know what. 1932 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 2: I think life just won the game. 1933 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I think I'm gonna. 1934 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna use this YouTube clip from the first ninety 1935 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 4: minutes of Grand Theft Auto. 1936 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:56,680 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 1937 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,960 Speaker 4: This is the first ninety minutes of Grand Theft Otto. 1938 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,599 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna call it fucking with black people, cause 1939 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,919 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure no black. 1940 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 3: People wrote this game. But this is what it sounds like. Nah, 1941 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,120 Speaker 3: No obsessed with sex. 1942 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 4: Nigga doing this nick Nigga, and you love me for 1943 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,760 Speaker 4: a nigga because. 1944 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,920 Speaker 2: That's right home, nothing but love nigga. This nigga must man, 1945 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 2: what the fuck is wrong you? Niggas? I was getting 1946 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:23,760 Speaker 2: us pain? 1947 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 3: What the fuck is wrong with you? 1948 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:25,799 Speaker 2: Nigga? 1949 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 9: Everything? 1950 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,559 Speaker 6: Nigga everything? And you his cousin. 1951 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 2: Nigga. 1952 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,200 Speaker 6: You said you was gonna. 1953 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 2: I got your head. You scared of dogs, nigga. 1954 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 6: Nigga. 1955 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,120 Speaker 4: That stud apache blood in me, homie, it's waiting to 1956 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:42,920 Speaker 4: be taking Nigga. 1957 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 10: Nigga got airs now. 1958 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,120 Speaker 3: Oh, nigga, don't hate me because I'm beautiful Nigga. He 1959 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 3: was about it, yes, ma'am saying ass Nigga, Hey, patchy blood. 1960 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:52,800 Speaker 2: You gonna be able to trace these nigga if he 1961 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:53,519 Speaker 2: goes to the ground. 1962 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:54,920 Speaker 3: How are you calling a nigga? 1963 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:59,880 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not calling nobody in Niga. 1964 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 2: But Chella nigga. Miss that fuck nigga. 1965 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 8: Drunk ass, Nigga, be cool. 1966 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,880 Speaker 2: Nigga. Ain't no motherfucking bike in here. 1967 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,760 Speaker 6: Man, No ship niggas. 1968 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 8: Nigga ain't afraid to get my hands dirty or so. 1969 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,160 Speaker 2: What's up now, Nigga? 1970 01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 6: You snitching or so? Ship ass? Nigga like you? Nigga, y'all. 1971 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 2: You make friends, were having your ass for niggas up 1972 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 2: there and shoot that nigga bumper's ass. 1973 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:31,320 Speaker 3: Fans very on you before you can't even move. Nigga. 1974 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,479 Speaker 2: Man, we only came in for a fight, and then 1975 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 2: is like, now there's a couple of niggas, which one 1976 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:43,280 Speaker 2: you want? Nigga s bails my niggas, Nigga and we 1977 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,080 Speaker 2: ain't going to neither. 1978 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 3: Nigga. 1979 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 2: I'ma Carein't nothing wrong with nigga shits whatever, Nigga, many 1980 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,240 Speaker 2: chop go get their food. 1981 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,680 Speaker 3: Nigga just shitting your ass there with your feet kicked up. 1982 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 3: It's a big black motherfucking nigga. You're creeping days. 1983 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 6: It's over, Nigga. You need to slow it. Down. 1984 01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 3: We can walk and talk at the same time. My nigga, 1985 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:01,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to preach on. 1986 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:02,599 Speaker 6: The my niggas. 1987 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 2: Listen, you boy, you want some paper. My niggas just 1988 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 2: starting another people the fucking balls. 1989 01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 4: Nigga, Bobby big Dick on the nigga. 1990 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 6: Could have creaked up on this nigga concios all over nigga. 1991 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:22,840 Speaker 4: Nigga who took the time to chop this up. That 1992 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,639 Speaker 4: is only the first ninety minutes of gameplay. 1993 01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 6: And that's if you're just playing straight person. Yeah. 1994 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,280 Speaker 4: Well you can change between like three different characters, and 1995 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 4: the one character is obviously a black character, and you 1996 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,000 Speaker 4: know he deals with a lot of other black people. 1997 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:43,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, I would give this a one hundred. The 1998 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 4: reason I give this one hundred out of one hundred 1999 01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 4: is because this game sold eight billion dollars worth of 2000 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 4: games in three days, So everybody got this. And I'm 2001 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 4: sure it's not only black people playing this. There's all 2002 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 4: kinds of white people playing this. Asian just bombarded with 2003 01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,680 Speaker 4: the N word left and right. 2004 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,760 Speaker 2: Uh, Like, there are ten and eleven year old white kids. 2005 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 5: Yes this game, and they probably use it. A lot 2006 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,400 Speaker 5: of them may use it more than the video game. 2007 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,240 Speaker 5: Get on Xbox Online online, Yeah, and play some of 2008 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 5: the games and play Call of Duty and you'll be like, oh, yeah, 2009 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 5: this is this makes sense. 2010 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, how long was that clip? 2011 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 3: Two minutes and nine seconds? 2012 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,920 Speaker 2: Okay. I love the fact that you played the whole 2013 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 2: thing because it actually ended up illustrated kind of a 2014 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,759 Speaker 2: deep point about how how, how, how how racism works. 2015 01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:33,759 Speaker 6: Uh. 2016 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,720 Speaker 2: The longer that video went on, the more desensitized and 2017 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:42,599 Speaker 2: bored I became. And that is racism in a nutshell 2018 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,479 Speaker 2: right there. You are in a culture where you are 2019 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:48,719 Speaker 2: surrounded by that, it just becomes the normal, everyday, mundane 2020 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 2: experience streets. 2021 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just like, I just like that. Uh that's 2022 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,720 Speaker 4: only ninety minutes in, you know what I mean, Like 2023 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,479 Speaker 4: like the if for people that play video games, it's 2024 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 4: probably like twenty hours of gameplay, like at least, and 2025 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,840 Speaker 4: that's if you just do the main missue mission. So like, 2026 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 4: you know, we're talking about a game people will be 2027 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,720 Speaker 4: playing for hundreds of hours over the next year or. 2028 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 3: So, and that's just the first ninety minutes. 2029 01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,280 Speaker 4: So but you know, for me, when I was playing it, 2030 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm kind of glad they went there 2031 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,400 Speaker 4: because it was like they pushed the ovelope with every 2032 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,439 Speaker 4: fucking thing else on that game. You know, if I'm 2033 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,080 Speaker 4: sure I can make two minutes of misogyny, two minutes 2034 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,880 Speaker 4: of jokes about gay people, two minutes of like it's 2035 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 4: really a fucked up game that kids shouldn't be playing. 2036 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,920 Speaker 4: And I feel like every parent should have to watch 2037 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 4: that in public before telling me that their ten year 2038 01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,000 Speaker 4: old can handle playing Gred Thevado. 2039 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:46,919 Speaker 6: True. 2040 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,680 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about our other game, which is, 2041 01:41:49,680 --> 01:42:02,040 Speaker 4: of course Guess the Race, this time for some guests. 2042 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 3: The Rays Guest the Race time. 2043 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 4: That's right, it's time for a guest The Race, the 2044 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 4: number one game show across all the podcasts land. I'm 2045 01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,959 Speaker 4: even getting reports caring that people in Birmingham are stealing 2046 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,200 Speaker 4: Guess the Race for their local radio station. 2047 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 5: Cool cool that we are getting stole from. That's correct, 2048 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,559 Speaker 5: Karen things, it's cool, but we ain't got no patent 2049 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:26,920 Speaker 5: on it. 2050 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 2051 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:33,240 Speaker 4: Today's guest is actually Andrew from the film geek Radio 2052 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 4: dot Com and Cinema Fix and movie Mezzanine and a 2053 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 4: whole bunch of other ship that he does. You ready 2054 01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:41,040 Speaker 4: to play some guests the Race? 2055 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 3: Andrew? 2056 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,679 Speaker 2: I am I'm very ready. I'm a little bit nervous 2057 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 2: about what this could mean if I if I screw 2058 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 2: this up. But okay, all right, let's play. 2059 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,080 Speaker 3: It's the only game where there's no winners. 2060 01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're right, then your racism and stereotypes 2061 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:02,040 Speaker 4: are on point, and if you're wrong, then you don't 2062 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:02,639 Speaker 4: win the game. 2063 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,240 Speaker 3: So here's the first one. 2064 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,960 Speaker 4: It is about a news report about a gang that 2065 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 4: made a thousand dollars heist. 2066 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 3: Thousand dollars heists, here we go, all. 2067 01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,559 Speaker 10: Right, criminals steal all sorts of things, from cash to copper. 2068 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,599 Speaker 10: But as Fox sixteens wants to showed her found out, 2069 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:23,160 Speaker 10: apparently human hair is now a hot commodity too, Melissa, that's. 2070 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 6: Right, Susan. 2071 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,759 Speaker 10: We talked to the owner of Whig and Beauty Plus 2072 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,760 Speaker 10: in North Little Rock today just after a group of 2073 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,120 Speaker 10: women rob the store. 2074 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,320 Speaker 1: It's a crime that was caught on camera. For the 2075 01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,520 Speaker 1: past twenty some years, Umi has been in the business 2076 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 1: of selling hair. It's come back and she's never seen 2077 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,080 Speaker 1: anything quite like this. 2078 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,920 Speaker 9: And they come here just a one minute try to 2079 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:44,400 Speaker 9: tech gavinything from mine. 2080 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,080 Speaker 3: Just before four o'clock this afternoon. 2081 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 7: Yumi says, a group of nine girls, one carrying a baby, 2082 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,040 Speaker 7: stormed her store, looking for hair extensions, but not planning 2083 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:54,160 Speaker 7: to pay for the merchandise. 2084 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,000 Speaker 6: Eight to nine, child, don't come in. The young teenage 2085 01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:58,439 Speaker 6: are coming. 2086 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,920 Speaker 7: In this video, you can see the ladies gathered around 2087 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:02,240 Speaker 7: a display looking at the hair. 2088 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 3: Umy says. 2089 01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:05,760 Speaker 7: At some point the girls opened up empty purses and 2090 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 7: shot the expensive extensions inside. 2091 01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 3: Oh God, doesn't pushing me everywhere. 2092 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,519 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm so nervous, so I never have this problem. 2093 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 7: Then the girls took off running, knocking over everything in 2094 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 7: their way. 2095 01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,759 Speaker 9: I tried to grab that, I tried to put to them, 2096 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 9: and they do that young you know that kind of 2097 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 9: the fast that I'm fifty one. 2098 01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:24,800 Speaker 2: You know. 2099 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 3: The suspects jumped in a car and sped off. 2100 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 7: Jumy says they stole one thousand dollars worth of stuff, 2101 01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,160 Speaker 7: but what they didn't steal for joy or love of 2102 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,080 Speaker 7: selling this hair, something she plans to continue doing. 2103 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 3: For a long time. 2104 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,960 Speaker 10: She had quite the personality, and Yumy did report this 2105 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:41,639 Speaker 10: crime to police. 2106 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:42,960 Speaker 7: It's under investigation tonight. 2107 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,519 Speaker 10: So if you recognize anyone in the video, please call 2108 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,880 Speaker 10: North Little Rock Police Department and have help her out 2109 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 10: wow and yumy, she was really funny to get her 2110 01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 10: the hair extensions back. 2111 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 3: Such an odd thing to steal. 2112 01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 6: Do we know why these women wanted to steal the hair? 2113 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 10: I don't know if you've ever bought hair extensions. 2114 01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:00,080 Speaker 6: I have their super exp. 2115 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,679 Speaker 10: And she says, apparently what they do is they'll they'll 2116 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 10: steal a lot of these hair extensions and then sell 2117 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,400 Speaker 10: them on the street for the cash. 2118 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,160 Speaker 6: So that's apparently what's happen right now. 2119 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:09,559 Speaker 10: Well, this is the first I've ever heard of people 2120 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,559 Speaker 10: stealing some hair extensions. Next, right, thanks a lot more, 2121 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,519 Speaker 10: and here's your Fox sixteen bottom line. 2122 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:19,000 Speaker 4: All right, So in this case, I want you to 2123 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,280 Speaker 4: guess the race of Umi the shop owner. 2124 01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 3: That's right. 2125 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,400 Speaker 6: Not the shop owner, y'all. 2126 01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, not the actual people who stole the weave, although 2127 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,880 Speaker 4: they also were all the same race, not as Jimmy, 2128 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,120 Speaker 4: but one race. But uh, guess the race of Umi 2129 01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:38,000 Speaker 4: the shop owner. 2130 01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:44,480 Speaker 2: I am going to guess that she is Asian. 2131 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,360 Speaker 4: All right, that's right. Okay, so he's gonna guess Asian 2132 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,880 Speaker 4: for this. Let's check with the chat room. The chat 2133 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,519 Speaker 4: room also plays along, and they are quite racist. They're 2134 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 4: very good at this game. Uh, let's see what they 2135 01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 4: believe the race is. I actually have to scroll up 2136 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 4: a lot of guesses for this already. Miss Swan says, 2137 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:09,400 Speaker 4: uh hood rats in facts black. That's that's not what 2138 01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 4: I asked you to guess the follower. I asked you 2139 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:17,679 Speaker 4: to guess the shop owner. I feel sorry for your mother, message, 2140 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,840 Speaker 4: says Redo Sonya. So for everybody to ever watch, I'm 2141 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,920 Speaker 4: gonna get Wait, that's a don't be a minuce. Joe 2142 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,519 Speaker 4: Spacey says, one who better watch out for mega hornets 2143 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:33,719 Speaker 4: Asian one that is likely to get attacked by giant 2144 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:38,320 Speaker 4: hornets asient Asian hurry up and buy uh no, no, 2145 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,679 Speaker 4: you hut up it by creator of those big ass hornets. 2146 01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 4: Shirley Want's Auntie Korean also owns a Korean barbecue wild 2147 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,720 Speaker 4: pack of negresses with well, that's that's that's not the 2148 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 4: uh well, let me read it anyway with reckless abandon 2149 01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,799 Speaker 4: But they but those surly spear chuckers couldn't curb Uman's 2150 01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,680 Speaker 4: love for exploitation of the black community. I vote Vietnamese 2151 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 4: ha my bad Asian one who was offended by Dick 2152 01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 4: Tracy cartoon ju jitsu Shanghai space grasshopper and one who 2153 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,800 Speaker 4: has a rep as a bad driver and very good 2154 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 4: at math. 2155 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,599 Speaker 3: The correct answer is Asian. 2156 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:25,240 Speaker 4: All right, everyone got that one right. 2157 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 3: She was good. I liked her. Uh. 2158 01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:34,040 Speaker 4: A Boynton Beach man, Old, Florida, is behind bars Wednesday 2159 01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,639 Speaker 4: after police say he sold drugs to an undercover officer 2160 01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 4: on four occasions. 2161 01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:45,120 Speaker 3: Oh, four four his magic number. I guess, so, I guess. 2162 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 6: Three strikes. You ain't out, you get to extra in it. 2163 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 8: All right? 2164 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:49,520 Speaker 3: He went to overtime. 2165 01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:55,320 Speaker 4: Justin Baker twenty soul, cocaine and prescription painkillers to the 2166 01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 4: officer in June, drugs in June and August. According to 2167 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,960 Speaker 4: a Dale Rape Beach Police for Fresh report, the two 2168 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,320 Speaker 4: met at a subway on Lynton Boulevard in a neighborhood 2169 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,320 Speaker 4: near the Village Academy at the Pompey Park. 2170 01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,120 Speaker 6: I feel bad for that sealing. They're like, man, We're 2171 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,559 Speaker 6: just trying to sell our sandwiches yep. 2172 01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,080 Speaker 4: Baker was arrested Tuesday and booked in the Palm Beach 2173 01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,720 Speaker 4: County Jail. He faces one count of selling cocaine, two 2174 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,719 Speaker 4: counts of selling in near a school or a park, 2175 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,839 Speaker 4: and one count was selling opium. 2176 01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,200 Speaker 3: Or derivative near a school or a park. 2177 01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 6: Now they got him for everything. 2178 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,160 Speaker 3: I see how Jared lost all the weight? 2179 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,639 Speaker 6: No, oh yeah, doing that. 2180 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 4: Late Wednesday, he remained jailed in liu of fifty thousand 2181 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 4: dollars bill, according to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. 2182 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,920 Speaker 4: I guess the race of mister Jared, I mean, sorry, 2183 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,599 Speaker 4: Justin Baker, drug dealer. 2184 01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 2: Huh. I'm going to go with white. 2185 01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:56,760 Speaker 3: All right, go on with white. Let's check the chat 2186 01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:57,759 Speaker 3: room and see what they believe. 2187 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:02,519 Speaker 4: He got four chances to sell drug white, no crack, 2188 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:10,280 Speaker 4: no Molly's. He whiter than a name brand Percocet, Redneck 2189 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 4: Trevor from Grand Theft out of five White, Walter Wizite, 2190 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,960 Speaker 4: not Cheach but Chong white, cast member of the Wire Black. 2191 01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,759 Speaker 4: It took four acts of trafficking to get him arrested. 2192 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,840 Speaker 4: The hot the hoighly Privileged, a member of MMG it's 2193 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,519 Speaker 4: made back music group. That would be black. The cousin 2194 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:36,400 Speaker 4: of the girls who stole the hair boy Crowded from Justified. 2195 01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:42,000 Speaker 4: I don't know what race he is, but the correct 2196 01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 4: answer is black. 2197 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 6: You got to put that in the chat room, Baber. 2198 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:49,360 Speaker 6: They might not believe you. 2199 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,800 Speaker 3: That's right. A couple of people got it right, so 2200 01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:56,439 Speaker 3: that white. 2201 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:05,040 Speaker 4: And uh. 2202 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:06,760 Speaker 3: I put it in the chat room so you guys 2203 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,120 Speaker 3: can click onder yourself. 2204 01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,800 Speaker 6: And see because when it's like that, people don't be believing. 2205 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:11,920 Speaker 4: I don't blaime you Now I got thrown I would 2206 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 4: have been thrown off by it too, because they said 2207 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,679 Speaker 4: that he was selling cocaine, and I feel like cocaine 2208 01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,400 Speaker 4: is a white people's drug. But I guess you know 2209 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,400 Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you can't sell cocaine to white people, right. 2210 01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:30,479 Speaker 2: Well, his name was Justin Baker. I was torn because 2211 01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,000 Speaker 2: that could be either a white person or a black person. 2212 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,200 Speaker 2: That's true if you're just going by stereotypical names. 2213 01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,120 Speaker 3: So I think it's time to get into the bonus round. 2214 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 4: Man, you're one for one so far, but let's see 2215 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,200 Speaker 4: if maybe you can step it up. 2216 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,719 Speaker 3: We'll get into the bonus round of guess the race. 2217 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 8: Debos, double the race, go. 2218 01:50:59,400 --> 01:50:59,800 Speaker 2: The rain. 2219 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,599 Speaker 4: That's right, guys, it's the bonus round time where everything 2220 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:07,200 Speaker 4: is double the points and double the racism. 2221 01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,320 Speaker 3: So if you missed a couple, don't worry. 2222 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,000 Speaker 4: You can get right back in the game with a 2223 01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,960 Speaker 4: couple of correct answers, are you nervous, Andrew? 2224 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,240 Speaker 2: I am so ready for this, all right? 2225 01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:21,720 Speaker 3: Were actually I think I can play this one. Let 2226 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 3: me see. Oh nah, it's just the courtroom footage. 2227 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:25,640 Speaker 8: All right. 2228 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:30,880 Speaker 4: A Lowell man. I guess Lowell County or Lawrel Street. 2229 01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't know anyway. A man with a golf with 2230 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:38,920 Speaker 4: golf ball sized lumps on his head and cuts on 2231 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:39,679 Speaker 4: his face. 2232 01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:42,400 Speaker 3: Forty six year old. 2233 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,280 Speaker 4: A forty six year old Lawrence man was ordered held 2234 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:50,360 Speaker 4: without bail pending a dangerousness hearing after a woman told 2235 01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,840 Speaker 4: Tewkesbury police that he tried to rape her at night point, 2236 01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,120 Speaker 4: so she repeatedly hit him on their head with a 2237 01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:57,840 Speaker 4: frying pan. 2238 01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 3: It was like some Tom and Jerry shit. 2239 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 4: Thomas stars In Lowell District Court Monday, Judge Thomas Brennan 2240 01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:13,439 Speaker 4: ordered Frank Harrison, who was appearing and with what appeared 2241 01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:14,800 Speaker 4: to be a hospital gown on. 2242 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 3: She sent them my worker to the hospital. 2243 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:20,759 Speaker 5: Oh. 2244 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:22,720 Speaker 6: She was like, you're gonna have to work for this. 2245 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,960 Speaker 3: One couldn't have it to a nicer person. 2246 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,040 Speaker 4: Held after he pleaded not guilty to armed assault, to rape, 2247 01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,320 Speaker 4: to rape in decent assault and battery on someone fourteen 2248 01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:36,280 Speaker 4: or older. And kidnapping, a dangerousness here and the schedule Friday. 2249 01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:41,320 Speaker 4: Prosecutor Rachel Peerlman uh that early Sunday morning, h said, 2250 01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,000 Speaker 4: early Sunday morning, Twsbury Police responded to an extended stay 2251 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,719 Speaker 4: of America. Nothing good ever happens there, Like, don't extend 2252 01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 4: your stay in that place. 2253 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,600 Speaker 3: No, it's more like extended state crime report. 2254 01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 2: For it's going to be an extended state because you're 2255 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:56,519 Speaker 2: never gonna leave right. 2256 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 6: Extended states inside. 2257 01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,800 Speaker 3: They should they should come out with that as one 2258 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:00,720 Speaker 3: of the CSI's. 2259 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, CSI extended to stay America for a report of 2260 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,440 Speaker 4: a man covered in blood and blended, bleeding from lacerations 2261 01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 4: on his head. Harrison was bleeding from lacerations above his 2262 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,800 Speaker 4: right ear, under his left eye, under his chin. He 2263 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 4: also had lumps on his head. He was transported to 2264 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:19,680 Speaker 4: the hospital to be evaluated. 2265 01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 6: She'd beat him like a drum. 2266 01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,439 Speaker 4: Police spoke to the alleged victim, who said he tried 2267 01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 4: to rape me. The alleged victim told Belice that she 2268 01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 4: met Harrison at a party in Lowell. He offered her 2269 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,280 Speaker 4: a ride to what she believed was another party. Instead, 2270 01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 4: they drove to the Tewksbury hotel, Harrison and the victim 2271 01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 4: went to his room, where a woman called a friend 2272 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,120 Speaker 4: to pick her up. It was then that Harrison allegedly 2273 01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,680 Speaker 4: took off his clothes from the waist down, grabbed a 2274 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,560 Speaker 4: woman and attempted to rape her. Harrison allegedly grabbed a 2275 01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,720 Speaker 4: steak knife while the victim hit Harrison in the head 2276 01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 4: with a pot. When the friend heard screaming, he began 2277 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,479 Speaker 4: banging on the door. Harrison heard the friend coming down 2278 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,600 Speaker 4: the hall, allegedly threw the knife and ran out the 2279 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:54,799 Speaker 4: door through the knife. 2280 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 6: Was he a ninja? 2281 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,320 Speaker 3: What the fuck? What was the logic to that? 2282 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,200 Speaker 4: But Defen's attorney Karen Goldberg argued that this was a 2283 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 4: setup for Harrison. Hotel employee took a call from the 2284 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,960 Speaker 4: alleged victim telling the employee not to let her friends up, 2285 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 4: and then she called saying her friends could come up, 2286 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:18,160 Speaker 4: and that's when Harrison came downstairs bleeding. Goldenberg said it 2287 01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,800 Speaker 4: was absolutely untrue that Harrison has started the woman and 2288 01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,640 Speaker 4: she defended herself. Goldenberg said this could have been the 2289 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 4: scheme to rob Harrison. See nothing good happens in extent, 2290 01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,200 Speaker 4: That's the lesson here is, guys, I don't know if 2291 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:36,080 Speaker 4: this guy is a rapist or an attempted like robbery victim. 2292 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,800 Speaker 3: What I do know is this happened at extended to 2293 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:39,440 Speaker 3: Stay America. 2294 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was not good for anybody. Yeah, nothing 2295 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,320 Speaker 4: good is gonna happen here. The clothing was taken for 2296 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 4: annalysis and the scene was processed. Guess the race of 2297 01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:52,920 Speaker 4: mister Frank Harrison frying pan victim. 2298 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 2: I am going to go with white again. 2299 01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 4: All right, let's check the chat room that that pot 2300 01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,720 Speaker 4: called that nigga black Willie lump lumps a nigga. 2301 01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:06,680 Speaker 3: Wait, littly lumplump ass nigga. 2302 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,960 Speaker 4: My mammy done hit the scary black buck with her 2303 01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,080 Speaker 4: frying pan. One who believes in the land of milk 2304 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 4: and cheese, I mean, honey, unable to extend, unable to 2305 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:19,280 Speaker 4: extend it, stay with it with two blocks of a 2306 01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:20,080 Speaker 4: school or a park. 2307 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:20,560 Speaker 3: White. 2308 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:28,160 Speaker 4: I wish that frying pan was used for grilled cheese sandwiches, White, 2309 01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:28,839 Speaker 4: says Trojan. 2310 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,520 Speaker 3: The correct answer is. 2311 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:32,480 Speaker 8: Black. 2312 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:42,920 Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know if I should be upset or proud. 2313 01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's confusing game. I don't know if 2314 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,320 Speaker 4: anyone got it right, but if you did, yeah, some 2315 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:55,240 Speaker 4: people did, all right, last guess the race article. All right, See, 2316 01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,600 Speaker 4: we can get everybody back in this, prosecutor say. 2317 01:55:58,640 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 3: Alice Louise. 2318 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 4: Shot her ex husband in the back of their head 2319 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,400 Speaker 4: as he slept and dumped his body in an abandoned 2320 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,720 Speaker 4: gold mine on a ranch in the southeast Wyoming High 2321 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:09,560 Speaker 4: count Country. 2322 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 6: Oh. 2323 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:15,280 Speaker 4: Five years later, her then future husband, Gerald Uden allegedly 2324 01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,760 Speaker 4: shot his ex wife on an outing to hunt birds 2325 01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,720 Speaker 4: in the farm in the farm and ranch country on 2326 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 4: central Wyoming. Police prosecutor said he then shot her two 2327 01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,040 Speaker 4: kids and hid the three bodies. 2328 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 6: Oh. 2329 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 4: Gerald Uden seventy one and Alice Luiseen seventy four were 2330 01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,160 Speaker 4: quietly living out their senior years and the ryal Ozarks 2331 01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:40,760 Speaker 4: in their Springfield, Missouri. Now they face extradition to Wyoming 2332 01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,520 Speaker 4: to answer allegations authorities say have gone unpunished for more 2333 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 4: than thirty three years. 2334 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:46,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 2335 01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,840 Speaker 4: What role their own relationship may have played into the 2336 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,120 Speaker 4: slaves remains murky. Court documents have yet to hint at 2337 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,440 Speaker 4: the motors or indicate at what point Alison Jerald caught 2338 01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,600 Speaker 4: each other's eyes, and authorities are tight looked about details 2339 01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,800 Speaker 4: of their mistigation, but the cases are likely to stir 2340 01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:02,880 Speaker 4: up old sentiments out in. 2341 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 3: Wyoming open spaces. 2342 01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,840 Speaker 4: Earlier this year, the mother and granddaughter of Freemont County 2343 01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:11,760 Speaker 4: victims died without seeing any resolution to the case. Missus 2344 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,080 Speaker 4: Martin's spent the remainder of her life with the hope 2345 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,560 Speaker 4: of learning what happened to them. 2346 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:18,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2347 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,760 Speaker 4: Gerald Uden is accused of killing thirty two year old 2348 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,720 Speaker 4: Virginia Uden and her two children, Richard Uden twelve and 2349 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,920 Speaker 4: Reagan Uden ten. He was arrested Friday in charge of 2350 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,560 Speaker 4: three council first degree murder. According to Wyaomy Division of 2351 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,160 Speaker 4: Criminal Investigation, Virginia Uden and her children were last seen 2352 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 4: in Freemont County in central Wyomen in nineteen eighty. 2353 01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:38,840 Speaker 5: Wow. 2354 01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. According to an Avid, I wonder how 2355 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,600 Speaker 4: they found out? Do you think they was like, yeah, 2356 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:48,120 Speaker 4: it was like what cracked this case? 2357 01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:48,760 Speaker 2: No? 2358 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, how did the married couple find out they 2359 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,480 Speaker 4: both killed their exes? Like you think it was when 2360 01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,200 Speaker 4: the police showed up, or you think at some point 2361 01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:00,120 Speaker 4: during over the thirty years they were like, oh what 2362 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,240 Speaker 4: what you know, what, what was the worst thing you've 2363 01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,560 Speaker 4: ever done? And it's like I don't I don't know, 2364 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you, you know I no, 2365 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,480 Speaker 4: it can't be worse than mine. It can't be worse 2366 01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,880 Speaker 4: than mine. No, no, it's pretty bad. And you know 2367 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,960 Speaker 4: I don't want to play this game. No, come on, 2368 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,600 Speaker 4: come on, I'll tell you what. 2369 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:17,160 Speaker 3: We'll say it. 2370 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,680 Speaker 4: At the same time, I murdered my X thousand. Oh 2371 01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:24,360 Speaker 4: my god, you too. You both said at the same time. 2372 01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:28,920 Speaker 6: It's just a coincidence, right, but yeah. 2373 01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,160 Speaker 4: According to Avid David gerald Uden confessed to an investigator 2374 01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,840 Speaker 4: at his home Friday that he shot Virginia Uden and 2375 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,200 Speaker 4: her two small children with a twenty two caliber rifle 2376 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,720 Speaker 4: that Virginia Udin had bought so that they could all 2377 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,480 Speaker 4: go bird honey. Udin allegedly said he picked up all 2378 01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:45,760 Speaker 4: three September thirty of nineteen eighty, drove them to an 2379 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,840 Speaker 4: area near Pavilion in Freemont County. All four got out 2380 01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,360 Speaker 4: the car, shot his ex wife, then both boys, then 2381 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:58,600 Speaker 4: he allegedly processed proceeded to conceal the bodies. The county 2382 01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,440 Speaker 4: attorney declined to comment on any details of the case, 2383 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,520 Speaker 4: including where the bodies of her and the two children 2384 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 4: were ever found, and court documents also didn't show when 2385 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:11,839 Speaker 4: Alice and gerald Da met or indicate what their relationship 2386 01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:12,600 Speaker 4: played in the role. 2387 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 3: Of the killing. So that's just crazy, man. 2388 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:21,440 Speaker 4: But guess the race of this wonderful couple that both 2389 01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:25,880 Speaker 4: killed their exes and went on to find the right person, 2390 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,640 Speaker 4: you know, because that's what life is about, guys, finding 2391 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,560 Speaker 4: the right person to grow old with. 2392 01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,080 Speaker 6: And what they have in common they have murdered in common. 2393 01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:36,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have murder in common. That is a strong bond, 2394 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,360 Speaker 4: really strong. So what do you think the race is here, Andrew? 2395 01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say white again. Come on, they gotta be 2396 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,360 Speaker 2: one of these has to be white, because there are 2397 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 2: so many crazy white people in the world. And I 2398 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,959 Speaker 2: mean this was in Wyoming, Okay, in the middle of nowhere, 2399 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,440 Speaker 2: wanted to go bird hunting. Okay, this this has to 2400 01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,240 Speaker 2: be some white people. 2401 01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, you're like that guy that keeps and 2402 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,120 Speaker 4: taking a hit at twenty one, you know. 2403 02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like the gambling addicts that that's the same 2404 02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:09,480 Speaker 2: number every time. It's got to come up one. Eventually. 2405 02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,640 Speaker 3: I want to put it all on black. Twenty two. 2406 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:19,160 Speaker 4: Psycho killer Norman Bates White, says JT rejected members of 2407 02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,480 Speaker 4: the Manson family white. All I have to hear is 2408 02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,640 Speaker 4: Wyoming all white all the time, says just basically the 2409 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,120 Speaker 4: old couple from the Book of Eli, who do who 2410 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:33,200 Speaker 4: done killed them? Is wiggedy, wiggedy wiggy white, natural born killers, white, 2411 02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:37,080 Speaker 4: natural born killers. Only white people are a Wyomy lived 2412 02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:41,480 Speaker 4: in Wyoming white. Wyomi means white. These are American psycho 2413 02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:46,480 Speaker 4: Christian Beale white. The correct answer is white. 2414 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:47,800 Speaker 2: All right. 2415 02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:57,240 Speaker 4: No one missed that miss so we can't get out 2416 02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:01,960 Speaker 4: of here without talking about this. Though sore rat Samara 2417 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,640 Speaker 4: saw was using an allege attack on a Joplin cup or. 2418 02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,040 Speaker 4: A fifty nine year old Choplin man has been charged 2419 02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:08,880 Speaker 4: with felling in a sawt in connection with a ledge 2420 02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,840 Speaker 4: attack on a couple with a samurai sword. That's right, people, 2421 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,600 Speaker 4: they are even attacking couples at this point. 2422 02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:17,360 Speaker 3: Elijah M. 2423 02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:21,200 Speaker 4: Wright was arrested after an incident early Friday on North 2424 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,320 Speaker 4: Cox Avenue and was charged with second degree assault. Police 2425 02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,280 Speaker 4: Lieutenant Matt Stewart said, right, who lives in a trailer 2426 02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:32,080 Speaker 4: in the backyard, became argumentative with Tracy why Latham Hopkins, 2427 02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:35,120 Speaker 4: fifty one and occupant of the houses that address, and 2428 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:37,960 Speaker 4: grabbed her by her finger before retrieving a samurai sawd 2429 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,360 Speaker 4: from his trailer and swinging at it at her and 2430 02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:44,240 Speaker 4: her husband, James S. Hopkins, forty two, and inflicting cuts 2431 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:48,200 Speaker 4: to both the husband's forearm and stomach. Stewart said that 2432 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,640 Speaker 4: either Hopkins nor neither Hopkins nor his wife have been 2433 02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:55,840 Speaker 4: transported to the hospital. So yeah, this is another chance, man, 2434 02:01:56,040 --> 02:02:00,680 Speaker 4: Like another story, another tell of people with these losing 2435 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,400 Speaker 4: that goddamn mind. You can't even let them stay in 2436 02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:04,600 Speaker 4: your backyard. Next thing you know, they're trying to chop 2437 02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,640 Speaker 4: you on your wife up for no fucking reason. They 2438 02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,080 Speaker 4: think a sword gives them the right to do anything. Guys, 2439 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,360 Speaker 4: and I'm here to tell you you can stand up 2440 02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:14,960 Speaker 4: to that. You don't have to be a victim, all right. 2441 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,040 Speaker 4: Let that be a lesson that you take with you 2442 02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:20,000 Speaker 4: until the weekend. H Andrew Man, thank you so much 2443 02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:21,920 Speaker 4: for coming on the show, man, you see. 2444 02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:24,160 Speaker 2: No problem. It's been a lot of fun. 2445 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:24,680 Speaker 3: No doubt. 2446 02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:28,040 Speaker 4: Man, We enjoyed you and everybody. Make sure you check 2447 02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:31,320 Speaker 4: out Ages of Shield cast. It's on iTunes and Stitcher 2448 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:32,040 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. 2449 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm on it. 2450 02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:36,200 Speaker 4: If you're listening to our watching the Agents of Shield show. 2451 02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:39,440 Speaker 3: It's a good little uh you know. It's like it's like. 2452 02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:45,240 Speaker 4: A dessert for a meal of a TV show, So 2453 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:46,280 Speaker 4: I would check that out. 2454 02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:48,080 Speaker 3: They also do Cinema Fix. 2455 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,760 Speaker 4: He does you do a ton of other shows too, 2456 02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:53,880 Speaker 4: like TV review shows and stuff. 2457 02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just wrapped up a podcast all about the 2458 02:02:57,160 --> 02:03:00,000 Speaker 2: last season of Dexter. We just launched a new podcast. 2459 02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,120 Speaker 2: Asked about the new season of Homeland. I talk about 2460 02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:06,080 Speaker 2: movies every week on Cinema Fix. Uh, so this weekend 2461 02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:08,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about Gravity. So if you plan 2462 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,800 Speaker 2: on seeing that movie, go see it. Come back listen 2463 02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:14,200 Speaker 2: to Cinema Fix. And yeah, I do the Agents of shieldcasts, 2464 02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,680 Speaker 2: so tune in and if you if you like it, 2465 02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,040 Speaker 2: then leave us a night Tunes review and let us know. 2466 02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,240 Speaker 4: Yep, make sure you guys go to shadow Down Productions 2467 02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,800 Speaker 4: dot com and get four dollars worth of stuff so 2468 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,720 Speaker 4: you can get a free DVD of the palette of 2469 02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:32,920 Speaker 4: their new TV series. So that'd be a cool way 2470 02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 4: to support the show. And uh think that's about it. 2471 02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:40,960 Speaker 4: So until next time, I love you. 2472 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:41,480 Speaker 6: I love you to