Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is Scott Patterson. I am all in podcast, I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and uh we are gonna talk about Kiss
Speaker 1: and Tell, episode seven, season one, and we have a
Speaker 1: very very very very special guest and and a good
Speaker 1: personal friend of mine, Mr George Bell. George Bell was
Speaker 1: the dialogue coach uh on Gilmour Girls. What what season
Speaker 1: three through seven through the end of the run. You
Speaker 1: came in like the first part of season three, um,
Speaker 1: and Mike Odd he saved the show. George literally saved
Speaker 1: when you know, I mean we were we were kind
Speaker 1: of kind of struggling along with all the dialogue, um
Speaker 1: until you showed up. And then when you showed up,
Speaker 1: it just, you know, the days became shorter, the scenes
Speaker 1: became better, it all, you know, it all, it all
Speaker 1: got easier when you were there because you were helping
Speaker 1: us out so much. So, so let me, uh, let
Speaker 1: me tell everybody who the heck you are. And you've
Speaker 1: got quite an impressive resume, young man, So let me
Speaker 1: put on the specs here. So, so, you played dual
Speaker 1: roles in in Gilmore Girls. It was first as dialogues
Speaker 1: set dialogue coach, and you also appeared as Professor Bell
Speaker 1: Fantastic and you were in A seven episodes from two
Speaker 1: thousand three two thousand seven. First time we saw it
Speaker 1: was season four, uh, episode six and Affair to Remember
Speaker 1: in the last time we saw you as Professor Bell
Speaker 1: was season seven, episode twenty. Laurel, Laurel I, Laurel I
Speaker 1: question mark question anyway? Um, George, what is a dialogue coach?
Speaker 1: What is it? What? What do you do? What is
Speaker 1: it specifically that you do well? Dialogue coach not to
Speaker 1: be confused with dialect coach. Uh. Dialogue coaches the keeper
Speaker 1: of the word so so to speak, and that uh
Speaker 1: when uh, the exactly producer they want the dialogue pretty
Speaker 1: much word for word. Uh, then I'm there to work
Speaker 1: with the actors to make sure they get it word
Speaker 1: for word. Um, dialect coach or people like if you
Speaker 1: talk with the British accent and Jamaican accent, so it's
Speaker 1: an accent for dialect, but for me it's dialogue. I
Speaker 1: don't give acting notes unless the actor would requested it
Speaker 1: from me. I'm just there to be, you know, the
Speaker 1: person to read their lines with them. And drill it
Speaker 1: in their head. And then and after each take, I'll
Speaker 1: go up to them with my little trustee notebook that
Speaker 1: show them UH if they've got something wrong. And generally
Speaker 1: with my my own method is UH. I try to
Speaker 1: write what the actors said incorrectly, because quite often as
Speaker 1: an actor, you think you're saying the line correctly, but
Speaker 1: then you're really not. So when the first things you
Speaker 1: show them something they did wrong, they said, what did
Speaker 1: I say? So if you can show them what they
Speaker 1: said incorrectly, then more often than not they can make
Speaker 1: the adjustment. Some actors, I don't tell them what they
Speaker 1: said incorrectly because they only would confuse them more. But
Speaker 1: other actors would like to know what they make that adjustment.
Speaker 1: So I know how each actor worked on the show,
Speaker 1: what their method us and UH, and I would work
Speaker 1: with them under that framework. Oh yeah, really interesting. So
Speaker 1: so I you would approach me differently than you'd approach
Speaker 1: Lauren than you'd approach Unique or so what were the differences?
Speaker 1: What were the differences? What was I like to to
Speaker 1: work with on set? And how did you approach You
Speaker 1: really love to run the lines over and over it
Speaker 1: and get it drilled in your head, uh, which was great.
Speaker 1: Um and um. And also you know, because I would
Speaker 1: come to your trailer, which was nice and quite offer,
Speaker 1: you would treat me with sushi, right right right. So,
Speaker 1: but but now we would we would work the scene
Speaker 1: and work the scene. You know. Sometimes it took ten times,
Speaker 1: fifteen times whatever it took for you to feel comfortable,
Speaker 1: and then you were there. Um. Uh. Lauren, she liked to,
Speaker 1: uh just do the maybe a couple of times and
Speaker 1: really at rapid speed. And also maybe just the que
Speaker 1: line sometimes like maybe a line or two, just to
Speaker 1: give it the cube. And so we would do that. Um.
Speaker 1: Alexis was to come the same, We would just do
Speaker 1: it quickly and uh. And also Lauren and alex Is
Speaker 1: what they would do they would write down their dialogue
Speaker 1: on the back of their sides because they said that
Speaker 1: that would help them memorize the line by writing down
Speaker 1: their lines, which I actually incorporate that as an actor now. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's true it sometimes helps you when you write
Speaker 1: it down, it kind of somehow settles in the brain. Um.
Speaker 1: And then uh, Kelly, because she's some theater she I mean,
Speaker 1: she'd like to run the lines. So most people what
Speaker 1: we're like you, they'd like to run the lines. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I think you were the most diligent and wanting
Speaker 1: to uh you know, to run the lines and really
Speaker 1: get it locked in so that you you know that
Speaker 1: you were ready. Um. So yeah, for me, it was
Speaker 1: about the comedic timing. It's if you don't have the
Speaker 1: lines cold, you can't really focus on the timing. Right.
Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to do was screw up
Speaker 1: Lauren on the timing things because she had so many
Speaker 1: of those great lines and I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: in the way of that. And you can really, you know,
Speaker 1: kill a scene if your timing isn't there, you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't know the lines. And that's that's the
Speaker 1: first thing. I mean, you gotta that's the first rule theater.
Speaker 1: You you come in walking, I mean, sorry, you cat,
Speaker 1: you walk in talking, You have you have to come
Speaker 1: in walking. You maybe sometimes you walk in crawling or
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but you've got to You've got
Speaker 1: to know your lines. Um. Yeah, So what about on
Speaker 1: this set? What was the experience, Like, we're different actors
Speaker 1: that you approached on set to correct their dialogue where
Speaker 1: they you know, it can get a little testy sometimes
Speaker 1: because people that are they're very tired. They've been there
Speaker 1: for sixteen hours and they blow. They do a brilliant
Speaker 1: monologue or a brilliant scene and one word is off
Speaker 1: and you have to go up until the with the
Speaker 1: bad news and lamp. You had a tough job. Man
Speaker 1: knew you had to go up and you had to
Speaker 1: tell the director you know, look, we got to do
Speaker 1: it again because they didn't get that one word right.
Speaker 1: And then you have to go up to whoever it was,
Speaker 1: you know, me or whoever said listen, you know, you
Speaker 1: got that word wrong, and you're just like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we can't write that take on right. So what was
Speaker 1: that experience like for you? Well, that's also in part
Speaker 1: the reason why I would write down what the actors
Speaker 1: said if I could, because sometimes if it was so tiny,
Speaker 1: I could lobby in there on their behalfs and look
Speaker 1: they just said this instead of that, you know, I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: you know close enough, you know. Especially it was helpful
Speaker 1: if amy and then we're directing, because you know they
Speaker 1: would the final say so with them, you know, they
Speaker 1: they would give you, guys a little bit more leagal
Speaker 1: we actually than some of the other guest directors. Uh so,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know. But I think for all of
Speaker 1: the regulars on the show, they kind of knew the
Speaker 1: routine and so and so with one even though I
Speaker 1: was coming up there to give them the correction. You know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, everyone took it and stride and
Speaker 1: they understood. Uh. But sometimes the guests actors that would
Speaker 1: kind of crash and burn, and you know, I would
Speaker 1: want to crucify me because you know, they're like, what
Speaker 1: the hell. You know. I was like, sorry, don't, don't,
Speaker 1: don't shoot the messenger. Right, you remember that guy, that
Speaker 1: nice guy. He was a little bit older and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he was an experienced Broadway theater actor, and
Speaker 1: he just got this deer in the headlights thing going
Speaker 1: on about. And he looked at me and he goes,
Speaker 1: do we really have to go this fast? He goes,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, we do. Unfortunately, he was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do this. They said, you
Speaker 1: can do this. If I can do this, you can
Speaker 1: do this. Um you know, you're they were The guest
Speaker 1: actors would get shocked. Um. Yeah, they wouldn't realize what
Speaker 1: they were walking into the speed of it, you know,
Speaker 1: not not at all I think how I got Professor Bell,
Speaker 1: uh said, many of the people who are playing the
Speaker 1: teachers crashed and burned. And there was there was one time, uh,
Speaker 1: this lady who was a teacher, Jamie Babbitt, was directing
Speaker 1: that that episode, I remember. And so when I was
Speaker 1: in the hallway with her running the lines and everything
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, and she kind of had it,
Speaker 1: but but I could I kind of see that look
Speaker 1: coming over them, like, oh oh danger, will Warminson Dungeon,
Speaker 1: and and she just quiet and said, I want to
Speaker 1: go home. And I said, why, I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I want to go home. I said no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you could know. No, I need to go home now.
Speaker 1: And so I said, oh, no, no, You'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And so we ended up having to write cue cards
Speaker 1: in the back of the classroom so she could read
Speaker 1: the lines because she just had so pigned herself out
Speaker 1: and couldn't take the stress of it all that we
Speaker 1: had to write it on two cards and and that
Speaker 1: was the only way she got through it. Uh. And then, UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the actor that you
Speaker 1: were talking about. It was in the little movie theater.
Speaker 1: It was a couple and an older guy, and he
Speaker 1: just I had to literally, especially for his coverage, just
Speaker 1: speed him every line. I would say the line, and
Speaker 1: then he would say the line. Then I would say
Speaker 1: the next line, and then he would say that was
Speaker 1: the only way he was going to get to it.
Speaker 1: It just he had just that was it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so so we we had those moments, Oh George,
Speaker 1: it was you know, you fore, it's been so long
Speaker 1: and you forget what a pressure cooker the series was.
Speaker 1: I mean, the reboot was a lot more relaxed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had more time to prep uh the scenes and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But and they weren't as
Speaker 1: strict about the dialogue because it was just uh Dan
Speaker 1: and Amy directing, so they were okay. So that's why
Speaker 1: I tried to write it down so they could see.
Speaker 1: And it's like and rarely did we have to go
Speaker 1: back and do it because of the dialogue. It was
Speaker 1: unless it was just really you know, like a whole
Speaker 1: line was omitted or something or you know, and so
Speaker 1: and I also I had to I wrote down what take,
Speaker 1: what was said on what take? So on tape three,
Speaker 1: they missed this word or that sentence. On tape four
Speaker 1: that was a better one. But but they missed this,
Speaker 1: but they got that one right on take so they
Speaker 1: knew which one. So so that she said, so we
Speaker 1: have it, I said, well, and take maybe two and
Speaker 1: six you have it, you know. And so so it's
Speaker 1: really interesting. So I want to take us back a
Speaker 1: little bit. How did you get the job as a
Speaker 1: dialect coach on the show? Carla mccloski, who is a
Speaker 1: very very dear friend. I actually I sang in their wedding.
Speaker 1: Her husband and I went to college together. We were
Speaker 1: theater majors. Okay, so let's tell Let's tell the audience
Speaker 1: who Carla. Carla is, what what was her role over there?
Speaker 1: Carlo was the first a d assistant director on the series,
Speaker 1: and she's like the main person, uh you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: they they're like the heartbeat of the show. And so
Speaker 1: I guess when the decision was made in the third
Speaker 1: season to bring in a dialogue coach, in part, it
Speaker 1: was because they were going through script supervisors, like it
Speaker 1: was like a revolving door, you know. And finally I
Speaker 1: think they realized, well, you know what, maybe it's too
Speaker 1: much to expect the script supervisor to do all what
Speaker 1: they do and then to be on top of the dialogue. Uh.
Speaker 1: So they said, let's bring in let's bring in a
Speaker 1: dialogue coach, and Carla said, I have just the person.
Speaker 1: And so uh. But I interviewed with several of the
Speaker 1: people and I think they got it down before people.
Speaker 1: And then the four of us interviewed with Lauren really
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, so we interviewed with Lauren, and in
Speaker 1: in the interview with Lauren and she said, now your
Speaker 1: friends with Carla, right, I said, yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: very close friend. So I think that was my ace
Speaker 1: in the whole and so uh and I was selected.
Speaker 1: So that's how UM and I. Then I also interviewed
Speaker 1: first with my first interviewed with UM Patricia Palmer and
Speaker 1: Amy so Falmer was producer, one of the supervising producers
Speaker 1: or one of the main producers of the show, right right,
Speaker 1: So so my first interview was with them, and then
Speaker 1: I think they whittled it down to four of us
Speaker 1: who met with Lauren and then Lauren had the final
Speaker 1: say as to who you wanted, and so she selected me.
Speaker 1: I brought on board and I remember my first day,
Speaker 1: you said, I can't believe they did. They actually brought
Speaker 1: that they sprung some money and brought in a tile
Speaker 1: up book. I can't believe. You were really happy, you know,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't believe it. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think I think Brown season three they were starting to
Speaker 1: cut the budget on craft service. So the craft service
Speaker 1: wasn't as you know, I mean, it was nice, it
Speaker 1: was always nice, right, it's uh, but the craft services
Speaker 1: where you know, all the food is the snacks and
Speaker 1: the fruits and the veggies and right the water and
Speaker 1: the soda and all that stuff, but it was, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: well there they there was. There was always sort of
Speaker 1: a budgetary constraints to consider, and that's perfectly understandable. Those
Speaker 1: shows are very very expensive to produce, so I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're doing multiple shows over there, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna try to trying to keep it in
Speaker 1: accounting wise, but perfectly understandable. But anyway, um, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, and then tell us about when they
Speaker 1: were going to let you go. Well, I think I
Speaker 1: quit four times. Really it was about four times. It
Speaker 1: was about four times, didn't Yeah, yeah, because I do
Speaker 1: remember one time you were just when you heard that fact,
Speaker 1: who was it was it Dan Church, the sound card
Speaker 1: or someone. Usually when you if you were um out
Speaker 1: for a few days, you know, they uh, and then
Speaker 1: you come then you come up to the sound truck
Speaker 1: or something and I think you said, okay, so who
Speaker 1: got fired today? Got fired this time? And they said,
Speaker 1: well George quit and he said and you said, what
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no, no, this can't happen.
Speaker 1: And you went to particial. You can't know. This cannot happen.
Speaker 1: You can't this cannot know. We cannot lose him. We
Speaker 1: cannot lose him. You know, we're not gonna let so
Speaker 1: And it didn't happen. You were the mean, there's no
Speaker 1: way we could have done that were kind of work
Speaker 1: at that level. Um without you, there's just no way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like I was going. We weren't
Speaker 1: going in each other's trailers running lines. Everybody's too busy.
Speaker 1: Everyone was busy doing their own other things, and so
Speaker 1: so I was resting around, you know, and I worked
Speaker 1: with everybody. If you had one line h as a
Speaker 1: guest actor, Uh, if I had the time, I would
Speaker 1: go there and just you know, give you that attention,
Speaker 1: just to make sure because quite often, especially with the
Speaker 1: guest actors the first ad relied on me to see
Speaker 1: if they were how they were doing. And I remember
Speaker 1: this one guy who was a minister and it was
Speaker 1: in the dinner scene at the Gilmore House. And when
Speaker 1: I ran lines with them, he just it just they
Speaker 1: weren't sticking. And and so as I'm running the lines, uh,
Speaker 1: where he's not looking at me? And Sean Kavan, who
Speaker 1: was the other first a d uh was looking at me,
Speaker 1: you know, to see how things are going. And I
Speaker 1: would I did did this so and it was like
Speaker 1: so then everyone kind of knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh I said that, no, it's not you know.
Speaker 1: I would go to the director and saying and and
Speaker 1: and and and uh you know. And I mean I
Speaker 1: was the ladys on between the actor and the video
Speaker 1: village where the director and all the technical people would be.
Speaker 1: And especially for the guest actors because I knew all
Speaker 1: you guys personality. I knew. I knew if you were
Speaker 1: having a tough day or things were kind of you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you were struggling a little bit or you know this,
Speaker 1: you know are you there was no more correction should
Speaker 1: be given, you know. And I and I was literally
Speaker 1: a couple of times with the directors, I would saying no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give them that note. I was, good, you
Speaker 1: need to let them just let them know, let them
Speaker 1: have another go at it. Uh, you're gonna go in?
Speaker 1: I thought, no, no, that they're on the edge, you know,
Speaker 1: let them, uh, let them figure it out, you know.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, unless it was something I absolutely
Speaker 1: had to go in, you know. Uh. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: as I was there longer, U and I felt more secure,
Speaker 1: you know, I felt I could make that call sometimes
Speaker 1: just to say no, and I and I would you know,
Speaker 1: warned the directors, especially the new ones, Uh no, they're
Speaker 1: not having you right now, so let them alone. So
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but and they were
Speaker 1: all delightful, and they were all such good directors. But
Speaker 1: some of some of them, not not a lot of them,
Speaker 1: but some of them would come in onto the set,
Speaker 1: they'd leave video village, they take their ears off. They
Speaker 1: they come into video village after every single take and
Speaker 1: talk and would just be like, really, this is happening again,
Speaker 1: Like it's the second take, you know, Yeah, well we'll
Speaker 1: get there. Well we'll get you know. And it was
Speaker 1: just and then they go to each actor and it
Speaker 1: would take forever to do it. So, um, so you
Speaker 1: were back there with a leash on them. That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I was trying to, like you say it.
Speaker 1: Then most of the time the directors would listen to me,
Speaker 1: you know, and and take my lead. Um, but sometimes
Speaker 1: they didn't and they found out that I was right,
Speaker 1: so they defied you. They didn't take your advice, and
Speaker 1: then they got chewed up and came back to your
Speaker 1: tail between their legs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah that happened. And and I and but
Speaker 1: also script supervisors, Oh my god, I had There were
Speaker 1: a couple of script supervisors who were just the very
Speaker 1: first script supervisor that uh when I first started. She
Speaker 1: started four days before me. And instead of her being
Speaker 1: happy that I was there to kind of relieve the pressure,
Speaker 1: she was very territorial. And she was jealous because you know,
Speaker 1: the actors had taken to me so quickly, and she
Speaker 1: was she gave me all kinds of problems, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh and it was just like, so, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to help you out. She one time she didn't
Speaker 1: even want me on the set, you know, and uh.
Speaker 1: But eventually she was let go. And and you know,
Speaker 1: there were, like I said, a revolving door of script
Speaker 1: supervisors and I probably into the six or seventh season,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. There was this one young girl who
Speaker 1: had come on and she was like trying to give
Speaker 1: me all kind of grief and I and I just
Speaker 1: told her so I said, uh, excused me, but there's
Speaker 1: a reason why I'm still here. And I said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of scripture advisors, So
Speaker 1: I would think that you would want to listen to
Speaker 1: what I have to say, because you know, there's a
Speaker 1: reason why I have survived and so place to survive. Right, No, No,
Speaker 1: And sure enough, I don't know. Maybe she lasted two shows,
Speaker 1: maybe three episodes, I don't know, and then she was gone. George,
Speaker 1: So George, you know, yeah, it was it was something
Speaker 1: like the Octagon and there wasn't it. It was like
Speaker 1: a Chuck Norris film. Good God, So let me let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, um um. I wrote down this question,
Speaker 1: what was the script? What script was the toughest one
Speaker 1: that you had the opportunity to coach on. Do you
Speaker 1: remember if there was one particular script that because they
Speaker 1: were all pretty dense with dialogue. So it was there
Speaker 1: one particular that you remember, and if not, it's okay,
Speaker 1: we won't be don't. I don't remember a script per se. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think what I would do, I would judge it.
Speaker 1: But if it was going to be a tough day,
Speaker 1: depending upon the actor who was in and the amount
Speaker 1: of dialogue they had to do. So certain actors who
Speaker 1: shall remain nameless, uh, weren't very good with dialogue, handling
Speaker 1: dialogue and some of the other rules. And if they
Speaker 1: had a particularly big scene with a lot of dialogue,
Speaker 1: I knew my work was gonna be uh kind of
Speaker 1: difficult that day because uh, they just weren't quick with
Speaker 1: the lines. And what didn't mean they weren't a good actor.
Speaker 1: It's just that certain people could retain lines pretty well
Speaker 1: and certain people couldn't. Um uh and so so I
Speaker 1: so if I saw a particular day that certain actor
Speaker 1: was in and I look and I see all the
Speaker 1: page and then they had a lot of dogs, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a long day to day, you know.
Speaker 1: So you know, and there were certain actors, you know,
Speaker 1: if I saw that they had a lot of dialogue
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, Okay, you know I know that
Speaker 1: they were going to breeze right through it, so uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was not so much descript it. It's
Speaker 1: just the actor. Uh and how well they you know,
Speaker 1: couldn't learn their lives and you know how well they
Speaker 1: worked under pressure. All right, let's take a little break.
Speaker 1: George great talking to We're gonna come back and uh
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Speaker 1: We're here with the Dialogue Coach from Gilmore Girls from
Speaker 1: season three to season seven, all the way to the end.
Speaker 1: George Bell, who also played Professor Bell, did seven episodes
Speaker 1: in this series. A consummate actor in his own right. Um, George,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Okay, who is the
Speaker 1: best at reading their lines? And who need did a
Speaker 1: little more help? Be honest? Ha? Oh god? Okay? Uh
Speaker 1: if I were going to give medals out for best
Speaker 1: with lines, I would say Liza Sean Gunn. And we
Speaker 1: know that Liza played Paris and Sean Gunn played Kirk. Well, Lauren.
Speaker 1: What what amaze me about Laurn is that she kind
Speaker 1: of almost had like a photographic memory, so that she
Speaker 1: would come to work and you know, without having even
Speaker 1: looked at the lines, but she could process and and
Speaker 1: I don't she must have a photographic memory or something
Speaker 1: because she was so quick with learning the lines. That's
Speaker 1: that's what you get when you grow up reading books,
Speaker 1: when you live in books, and you have that that capacity.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a very special skill. You know. Now,
Speaker 1: people who kind of struggled with lines doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: they weren't good after Let mean, I want to make
Speaker 1: that clear to wait minute, you wouldn't put me in
Speaker 1: that category with the top people with the lines. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get in there. No, you learned your lines,
Speaker 1: but they've learned them quicker. Is that what you re so?
Speaker 1: I mean, No, you knew your lines. I mean I
Speaker 1: always felt good after we left your trailer. I knew that. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's wrong, solid just on being your eye line. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was always fun, you know, because I was always
Speaker 1: cleared with you. Wherever I was on the set when
Speaker 1: you were doing the scene, you go until I know,
Speaker 1: someplace sales another place for your eye line, so you know,
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, a good place for your highline.
Speaker 1: So we we had our routine that we all did,
Speaker 1: um now, but for the actor that needed a little
Speaker 1: more work. And I think he would actually admit it, uh,
Speaker 1: that that he wasn't on top of his lines. It's
Speaker 1: Jackson sukiece supiece uh husband uh in the series and
Speaker 1: you know, and he directed a couple of episodes too,
Speaker 1: and you know, good friends of Amy and Dan. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, even if he had a few lines, sometimes
Speaker 1: they just wouldn't stick. Uh. So I had to I
Speaker 1: had to kind of you know, work with him, um,
Speaker 1: you know, to make sure. I'm trying to think, who help,
Speaker 1: Oh it's our heart list tourists, Miss Patty. This is
Speaker 1: one of those people that you know, I would not
Speaker 1: I don't tell her what she said wrong because she
Speaker 1: said no, I don't want to know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, because I get I get confused, you know,
Speaker 1: don't tell me. So so I would just give of
Speaker 1: the correction. Uh as she was a hooke. Uh let
Speaker 1: me see, oh Sally start this was pretty good with lines,
Speaker 1: um um, and well with the two of them together
Speaker 1: there there was just such a joy on the set
Speaker 1: that they would crack up everybody. Um uh oh you
Speaker 1: know who acting was pretty good. It was you unique
Speaker 1: because French is his first language, so he really wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, be on top of his dialogue. So uh
Speaker 1: but but but if I were gonna give a gold medal,
Speaker 1: oh and Kelly, Kelly was really good two so uh um,
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, the every all the regulars pretty much.
Speaker 1: It was it was oh your sister, Oh what's that list?
Speaker 1: Was that her name? Yeah? Love her, wonderful acts she
Speaker 1: sult but a lot of actors come from the school
Speaker 1: of improv where you know, you know, as long as
Speaker 1: you get close to the lines, it's okay. And that
Speaker 1: was her thinking. And so for her to be to
Speaker 1: to get the lock in to save the line exactly
Speaker 1: has written that was a challenge for her. But she
Speaker 1: was just a wonderful actress. But yeah, I remember her.
Speaker 1: I'm having to really run lines with her quite a
Speaker 1: bit and given giving her a lot of corrections because
Speaker 1: of that. So so yeah, that was that was a
Speaker 1: challenge for her. But uh but again, like I said,
Speaker 1: they were all great actors, um, and I just know
Speaker 1: there's certain actors I'd have a little more work to
Speaker 1: do than other with than others. Kathleen will Hoyt, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: wonderful actress. She uh a sweet girl. She was great,
Speaker 1: She was great and she did a great job. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She and Michael Dan Louise, they were great. They were Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was were really great days on set when those
Speaker 1: two were there. Absolutely. Um. So what was it like
Speaker 1: as Professor Bell to be on the other side of
Speaker 1: the camera? It was probably one of the most stressful
Speaker 1: days of my life, Yes, because how that all came about. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know on uh the you know, it takes eight
Speaker 1: days to do an episode, and usually the eighth day
Speaker 1: is the longest day because if we had problems but
Speaker 1: we had to uh we didn't get to all the
Speaker 1: scenes that day, then we put it on the back
Speaker 1: end and we had to get everything done on that
Speaker 1: eighth day. And I remember this eighth day was on
Speaker 1: a Monday, so we Mondays our earliest day, so we
Speaker 1: had gotten up really early that morning and too, and
Speaker 1: to try and get everything done. I think we were.
Speaker 1: It was getting around six or seven o'clock that evening.
Speaker 1: Uh so it was already twelve thirteen hours day. And
Speaker 1: then the next thing I know, they come up to
Speaker 1: me and said, George, guess what you're going to be
Speaker 1: Professor Bell uh in the next episode. I went, oh really,
Speaker 1: I said, oh that's really nice at them. Oh great,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought, okay, and I said okay, And
Speaker 1: so then they gave me this, But I said, so,
Speaker 1: now what am I doing this? You know, tomorrow tomorrow, okay,
Speaker 1: and your first up. I'm first up, and it's tomorrow
Speaker 1: and we haven't finished with this episode. And then I
Speaker 1: looked and it was a page and I have monologue,
Speaker 1: And I was like, when will I have time to
Speaker 1: learn this? You know, you're already brain dead anyway because
Speaker 1: you're tired, and so so I'm trying to look at
Speaker 1: the lines and learn the lines between takes and whom
Speaker 1: we're moving from one set to the next, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and then of course to add the
Speaker 1: pressures that now the shoe is on the other foot,
Speaker 1: I've got to now, you know, it's like all the
Speaker 1: other actions. I'm sure like, m hm, okay, now let's
Speaker 1: see you do it God and so and so. I
Speaker 1: went to the first day g and I said, is
Speaker 1: there any way you can put me towards the end
Speaker 1: of the day, not personal? She said no, because of
Speaker 1: the moving It just makes the most sense. And I said,
Speaker 1: but I have no time to learn this. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep much that night at all. And in fact,
Speaker 1: I think around about three or four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: my doorbell rings with changes to the dialogue, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: and then I thought, am I being pumped? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's this, it's this for you know, so and so
Speaker 1: and just enough, just screw you up. And so when
Speaker 1: I walked in to do that scene, I was like
Speaker 1: a walking zombie. Now I must say, watching the scene,
Speaker 1: I must be a good actor because I was dying
Speaker 1: on the inside. But I looked calm up on the outside,
Speaker 1: you know. And I got through it, you know. I
Speaker 1: it wasn't my best work, but at least I got
Speaker 1: through it to I guess break the curse of the
Speaker 1: teacher or the professor, because then they gave it to
Speaker 1: me several more times. But and the other times I
Speaker 1: had enough time to learn the lines and feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: But that very first time I was in Rory's classroom,
Speaker 1: I was I think I was a philosophy or sociology professor,
Speaker 1: and I'm not even I don't have anyone else to
Speaker 1: the lines to bounce off of. It's just me talking
Speaker 1: and talking, so it's all just all on me. I
Speaker 1: was just I was just like the stress. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one of that probably was my his date.
Speaker 1: You were working on the show. You were probably the
Speaker 1: most versatile actor of all of us because you had
Speaker 1: to play so many different roles when you were dial
Speaker 1: we're coaching all of us, right, so you'd go from
Speaker 1: one to the other to the other. I mean you
Speaker 1: probably do five or six every morning, and then you
Speaker 1: do lunch and then throughout the day. So you were
Speaker 1: you were playing all the characters, and they, you know,
Speaker 1: Amy probably just said, boy, this guy can do anything.
Speaker 1: Let's see the professor bell and who cares if he
Speaker 1: can learn his lines? Know they you know, the reason
Speaker 1: why they were giving me all those little parts was
Speaker 1: partly I think one of the times I quit. One
Speaker 1: of the things I wanted and it is you know,
Speaker 1: your your health insurance. So and I wanted to get
Speaker 1: it as an actor. So I negotiated that they paid
Speaker 1: me as an actor and I needed to make a
Speaker 1: certain amount of money, uh to uh so I could
Speaker 1: get Plan one, which was the better plan for health insurance.
Speaker 1: So uh oh, I remember one episode, I think the knit,
Speaker 1: the knitting one. I think I say one word, uh,
Speaker 1: twent I think that's what I said that coming down
Speaker 1: the seconds and I say twenty. And I got top
Speaker 1: of the show payment big because it was all going
Speaker 1: towards my I tell you, Amy did things for me
Speaker 1: that you know I would get on any other show.
Speaker 1: The top of show means when you get a guest
Speaker 1: star role that they're paying you as the top guest star,
Speaker 1: which which gives you what five thousand dollars or whatever
Speaker 1: it is or whatever it is now six six. Now
Speaker 1: you've got six. You've got six grand. So that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: And one word and you and you need to accumulate
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money earned in any fiscal year
Speaker 1: for the Union to give you those lower rates on
Speaker 1: your health insurance. And if you don't accomplish that, then
Speaker 1: you lose your health insurance. It's it's it's very trick,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter how good a year you had.
Speaker 1: For ten years in a row, you could be making
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. But if you don't, if you don't
Speaker 1: continue hitting their minimums, theyll you lose your health insurance.
Speaker 1: So that's a very very big deal. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: nice thing. Good for you. Good, good, good. So why
Speaker 1: don't we get into the episode recap. You watched Kiss
Speaker 1: and Tell last night? I did. What were your impressions?
Speaker 1: What did you think? Everybody so young? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: look how young everybody. It's like little babies, you know.
Speaker 1: But it was it was great, uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: to kind of go down that road. I mean, also
Speaker 1: because I didn't work on that that episode, but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I knew, I knew the set, and you know,
Speaker 1: of course I know all the actors, and so it
Speaker 1: was fun just seeing everybody and and uh, just how
Speaker 1: wonderful the show is. I mean that it's it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's like comfort food. It's just a great show. Um,
Speaker 1: what did you think? You know? The thing that really
Speaker 1: jumped out at me about Kiss and Tell was, um,
Speaker 1: Dean was it really developed a little bit at Dean's
Speaker 1: background and where he came from and what he was
Speaker 1: on about, and uh, you know when he I was
Speaker 1: really surprised when he kissed her in Dozi's Market. I
Speaker 1: was very very surprised, which which which, which really spawned
Speaker 1: one of the funniest lines, laugh out loud lines from
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim, played so beautifully by Emily Corona, was to
Speaker 1: Laurel I when she came in. And that's when Laurel
Speaker 1: I found out about the kiss from because you know,
Speaker 1: because Mrs Kim thought she knew says your daughters, you know,
Speaker 1: getting kiss She's she's kissing or making out in Dozis
Speaker 1: Market and you know this is where we buy our
Speaker 1: Foodly funny, Uh, but I I was a little surprised
Speaker 1: by that, you know, the the Chicago kid coming into
Speaker 1: the little town and then you know, grabbing they're pretty
Speaker 1: girl and just just planting one honor at work. And
Speaker 1: I just thought that's a bold move, was very bold,
Speaker 1: very confident young man. Well, they had a lovely chemistry,
Speaker 1: the two of them, It really they really did. Uh,
Speaker 1: all three of her boyfriends, you know, Dean, uh, Matt
Speaker 1: and my Low you know, I mean those are my boys.
Speaker 1: I I didn't I didn't, okay, so, but I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: You know, Jared was such a good actor at such
Speaker 1: a young age. Yeah, I mean he was eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: He was literally just like out of high school, or
Speaker 1: maybe he was still in high school, but I think
Speaker 1: he graduated high school and then he's on the set
Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls, right. Oh. Yeah, I mean he was
Speaker 1: just like as fresh as it gets, and he was
Speaker 1: good at eighteen. He was excellent. He was excellent, and
Speaker 1: I think he got cast in that. Um the uh
Speaker 1: was it Jamie? Who's that was the casting director? Well,
Speaker 1: our mar somebody? When we did UH one of the
Speaker 1: fan fest, she was telling how they found Jared because
Speaker 1: they had been looking and looking and looking, and I
Speaker 1: guess when he came in or something, because I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was leaving to go somewhere, but he
Speaker 1: read and she went running into Amy's office and said,
Speaker 1: you gotta come. You know, I think we found I
Speaker 1: think we found it. I think you know, and and
Speaker 1: and he was like and so and they went in
Speaker 1: and he read and sure enough, you know, that was
Speaker 1: great story, great story. And I believe Dean Uh was
Speaker 1: recast UH when the original Dean was Nathan Weatherington, um,
Speaker 1: and Dean came in and uh, sort of took over
Speaker 1: that role from good old Nathan. But so what did
Speaker 1: you think? And also, you know this episode just kiss
Speaker 1: and tell really, um, my god, I mean the Rory
Speaker 1: that Rory and alexis was so vulnerable and sweet and
Speaker 1: and you know, it really defines what that town was
Speaker 1: all about, and being raised in that town to produce
Speaker 1: a girl that was, you know, so vulnerable and so
Speaker 1: sweet and so and and and this the flush of
Speaker 1: young love. And my god, he kissed me and he ran.
Speaker 1: She ran to to Kim's antiques and told Lane all
Speaker 1: about it, and they giggled, and I was just like wow,
Speaker 1: and it's like it hit me it. You know it
Speaker 1: hit me before, but it really hit me right between
Speaker 1: the eyes. Why people love this show so much and
Speaker 1: and keep rewatching it and rewatching it is because this
Speaker 1: is so well done. I mean, to do those kinds
Speaker 1: of emotions and a young person, a middle aged person
Speaker 1: in old rush to do that at that level is difficult.
Speaker 1: You don't see that. I mean that's film quality. That's
Speaker 1: like high end film quality, emotional life writing acting on
Speaker 1: a little screen from the deep WB and It's confusing
Speaker 1: because yeah, these young kids, man, they were so good,
Speaker 1: they were so natural and so good. They never pushed.
Speaker 1: They never you know, you know, you never you never
Speaker 1: caught them over acting or just just great stuff. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he crossed the line a little bit with
Speaker 1: the scene. You know, she invited him over to for
Speaker 1: movie night, which was one of the which one was
Speaker 1: another hysterical scene when when when Lauren told Alexus that
Speaker 1: she'd done that invited Jared over and uh and and
Speaker 1: you didn't see the look on Eric Alex's Alexis's face,
Speaker 1: but you saw Lauren. They favored her coverage her what
Speaker 1: they consider a close up, which is, you know, from
Speaker 1: sort of the naval on up Um and Lauren just
Speaker 1: went and why are you looking at me like that horrified,
Speaker 1: horrified child? Like you did what? It was such a
Speaker 1: great scene, such a great scene. But then you know
Speaker 1: after uh, Laura, I gave Um Dean her little like
Speaker 1: if you hurt my kid, you're dead kind of speech,
Speaker 1: which of course has to happen. But it really surprised
Speaker 1: me that she took that much liberty, knowing that if
Speaker 1: Alexis ever found out, it was gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: Trouble and River City, like, you know, because Dean's gonna say, boy,
Speaker 1: your mom really scared me a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't scare. He didn't scare. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: he was. He was so in his own skin that
Speaker 1: character that he said, now is it my turn? Can
Speaker 1: I can I speak now? And then he said that
Speaker 1: the that the I need you to like being this
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And I just thought, boy, that kid
Speaker 1: is ballsy. I was a little I'm just like you,
Speaker 1: honestly little taken back by that. I was too. I
Speaker 1: was too. But it says so much about the character, right.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, it's not the writing. It's like that
Speaker 1: takes you back. It's it's it's I mean it is,
Speaker 1: but it's it's what that character says. He draws a
Speaker 1: line and he says, listen, I'm an equal to he's eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here, you know, I'm here to stay, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, hal so, which was which was nice. I
Speaker 1: mean I love the fact that that that she did
Speaker 1: say that this town loves Rory and that everyone will
Speaker 1: be watching because it's so true everyone loves Rory and
Speaker 1: and so that uh, and of course he's aware of it.
Speaker 1: Uh that that she is this special, special person that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do something wrong with there, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: whole town to deal. That was an amazing amazing scenes,
Speaker 1: amazing scenes, really really funny what's what sean? Uh? Because
Speaker 1: there was no Kerk in it, and yet no Emily
Speaker 1: or Richard either. It was it was it was devoid
Speaker 1: of Emily and Richard. Um. So you know, I wrote
Speaker 1: down some great lines. Uh. When she was telling uh
Speaker 1: Lane about the kiss and where it happened, what aisle
Speaker 1: and Lane says, oh, that's a great isle. He says, well,
Speaker 1: why is that a great issle? And she says, well,
Speaker 1: because that's where you got kissed. And then at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, she's telling her mother, she's telling
Speaker 1: Laurela about it, and she's great, that's a great Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's you know that scene. That episode for me,
Speaker 1: really brought into focus as to why, um, that show
Speaker 1: is so beloved. That was such a charming episode because
Speaker 1: everybody's been through that man, woman, everybody's been through that
Speaker 1: first kiss, and it was just so iconic. The whole
Speaker 1: episode was so iconic. It's so funny. My god, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was laughing out loud through the whole thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole town knew about the kiss. Everybody knew about it.
Speaker 1: You know. In in comedy films, right, they say every laugh,
Speaker 1: every big laugh, is worth twenty million dollars at the
Speaker 1: box office. There were five big laughs in the first
Speaker 1: ten minutes of this thing, and usually all of the episodes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting big laughs throughout the whole thing
Speaker 1: in the hour, and it's what forty minutes because they're
Speaker 1: doing twenty minutes of commercialsavable. Um, just just knockout stuff. Anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break and we come back. George
Speaker 1: Bell and I are going to do something that we
Speaker 1: have never done on this podcast before and we may
Speaker 1: never do again, depending on how this goes. We are
Speaker 1: going to walk to tight rope. Allow the Wallenda family
Speaker 1: here with our fan base, the most dedicated fans in
Speaker 1: the world, the best fans in the world, and so
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break. I am Scott Patterson,
Speaker 1: I am all in Podcast, I Heart Radio. Will be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages. Yeah, alright, we're back, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, Our Heart
Speaker 1: Radio we're here with George Bell, dialogue coach of Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls season three through seven. We're gonna do a little
Speaker 1: acting here. We're going to enact. We're going to re
Speaker 1: enact a scene from Kiss and Tell with Luke, Laurelai
Speaker 1: and uh Alexis in this scene. This could be this
Speaker 1: is a diner scene. I believe that it's a diner scene.
Speaker 1: Are you ready to critique us, George and help us out?
Speaker 1: I am ready. I got my laptop and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at It'll be a challenge for me because I don't
Speaker 1: have my pencil. All right, here we go. Let's just
Speaker 1: take a crack at it. Danielle Riley, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Rock and roll? Alright ready? And I wanna and at
Speaker 1: a coffee? Come on, man, you you med at me too.
Speaker 1: I mean, a man can choose whether or not he
Speaker 1: wants to a picture of a fat, stupid burn on
Speaker 1: his wall. And oh my god, that's the reason damn
Speaker 1: Pilgrims came here in the first place. Luke, I wasn't
Speaker 1: snubbing you. I didn't even hear you. Now I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about you. Sorry, I'm just feel a little persecuted lately. Coffee, please, okay, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Don't look fine? Well, thank you. Well, just
Speaker 1: might be a little concerned, preoccupied. Do look concerned? Well
Speaker 1: I'm not. Well, that's fine. You just look at it. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know some streamers will look eight in here. Thank you? Sorry? Sorry, sorry?
Speaker 1: Oh hey, save your apologies for the Indians, missy. People
Speaker 1: are really in a giving mood today. The Horn of
Speaker 1: Plenty is packed. That's great. Do you want some coffee?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'll just have a sip of yours. I
Speaker 1: have to get right back. Oh really, I thought we
Speaker 1: were having lunch today. I can't. We're one program short.
Speaker 1: I only have a couple of minutes. Oh. You've been
Speaker 1: really busy lately. Yeah, I guess. I guess it's the
Speaker 1: end of year. Rush. I mean, we haven't really even
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of days. What do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about? I don't know anything. Okay. Did you
Speaker 1: read the article in the newspaper about the polar ice
Speaker 1: cap smelting? Yeah, yeah, big deal, Fine, you picked the subject. Okay, great.
Speaker 1: I was watching General Hospital the other day, and you
Speaker 1: know they have a new Lucky because the old Lucky
Speaker 1: went to go play something where he could have a
Speaker 1: real name. So, the old Lucky had his girlfriend Liz,
Speaker 1: who thought that he had died in a fire. So
Speaker 1: then they bring this new Lucky and you're all like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know that that's not the old Lucky because the
Speaker 1: new Lucky has way more hair, jel issues. But still
Speaker 1: Liz was so upset about the supposed death that you
Speaker 1: could not wait until you see them kiss. You know,
Speaker 1: when do you have time to watch General Hospital? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the point. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the whole Liz Lucky kissing thing. I think their
Speaker 1: actors being played to play a part. So it's nice
Speaker 1: that they're living up to their obligations. Rory. Look, we
Speaker 1: can finish this meaningful conversation later. I promised Lane I
Speaker 1: would get right back. Okay, I'll see you later. Okay,
Speaker 1: by I'm not going to say you look concerned. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to talk about how good you would look
Speaker 1: dressed as one of the guys from the Crucible. Fair enough,
Speaker 1: wowful gaps you could drive trucks through. Dr George. The
Speaker 1: speed of the time off was good, but I would
Speaker 1: I would say okay, I uh. Normally if people are
Speaker 1: too so I'll say okay, that was great now, Gilmour rise,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like they said, what speed it up?
Speaker 1: Speed it up? Um? The only uh, let me see
Speaker 1: whoever was who was reading Rory there was just one
Speaker 1: little tiny thing in that last page and said you said, look, uh,
Speaker 1: we can finish this very meaningful But it was look,
Speaker 1: can we finish this very meaningful conversation later? So you
Speaker 1: you kind of inverted that. And I have like a
Speaker 1: little symbol where I said you inverted that. Uh. There
Speaker 1: were just a couple of little floods where you guys
Speaker 1: kind of repeated the word a second time, and I
Speaker 1: would probably put a little circle with a two x
Speaker 1: by that, saying okay, you said that word twice, you
Speaker 1: know it's just one time. Uh yeah, So I have
Speaker 1: all these Similarly, you've seen my script. It's like chicken
Speaker 1: scratch all over the place. George, what about how terrible
Speaker 1: the acting was? It was really Scott got but oh
Speaker 1: the others it's like they forgot they were active. As
Speaker 1: I said before, as a dialogue coach, I don't give
Speaker 1: acting notes unless the actors specifically asks me something in
Speaker 1: regards to be acting. Danielle Riley, why don't you ask George,
Speaker 1: how good you're acting? Wasn't well. Actually, what I was
Speaker 1: going to ask George is, from a scale of one
Speaker 1: to ten for a dialogue, what would you give us
Speaker 1: ten being great, one being really bad? I would you do? Guys?
Speaker 1: Because you see, you must remember you had the dialogue
Speaker 1: right in front of you. It's a whole different ball
Speaker 1: game when you're doing different memory. Uh, so you don't
Speaker 1: have that safety net. But I give you an eight. Well,
Speaker 1: I can go to sleep happy tonight. I got an
Speaker 1: eighth from George. I'm good. Well, part of being a
Speaker 1: dialgue being a dialogue coach, you have to be somewhat
Speaker 1: of a diplomat, you know. Get I get a solid too,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Amy. It actually made me realize, like, wow,
Speaker 1: the show is so good because they are so bad.
Speaker 1: Acting is hard. Acting is not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's hard. Anybody tells you acting is easy.
Speaker 1: And then and then put in like especially for you, Scott,
Speaker 1: you're in a your diner, you know, so you've got
Speaker 1: a whole lot of props and things, so pouring the coffee,
Speaker 1: you get in the donuts, you're getting the food orders,
Speaker 1: and and then and while saying all these lines at
Speaker 1: a rapid speed, So you gotta get all those actions
Speaker 1: in as well as the dialogue, and then you have
Speaker 1: to match it every take, and you have to match
Speaker 1: it every single take, and you have to match it
Speaker 1: on the mediums shots and the close ups. So you
Speaker 1: do it again and again and again and again, because
Speaker 1: then I'm there with my trustee. I'm scared of George's
Speaker 1: pencil Sure, I would a lot of lid on my pencils.
Speaker 1: You get a ten out of ten. We love you,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. George was always a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 1: To come to the set and see George. Everybody would smile.
Speaker 1: He put a smile on everybody's face. Um, Georgie boy,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Man? Huh, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm just hanging in there. Uh, just one
Speaker 1: day at a time. So glad that the pandemic seems
Speaker 1: to be easy, so that we can maybe get back
Speaker 1: to some normalcy or some type of normalcy. Have you
Speaker 1: been in touch with anybody from the cast? Carla? Uh
Speaker 1: and Patty Malcolm? Uh, Laurence stand in Patty Malcolm right? Um?
Speaker 1: And who else? Do I? Uh? What have you have
Speaker 1: you heard from Rich my standard. No, I haven't heard that.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen or heard him in years. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and of course with those fan fests, I'll
Speaker 1: see the people usually then uh. So I'll see Emily
Speaker 1: and Keiko and uh some of the some of the
Speaker 1: regulars who have been doing it every every year, so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and on Facebook prints with certain people, so
Speaker 1: I so I'll see their post. But I'm gonna see Sean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see Sean at the end of July. We're
Speaker 1: doing a convention together in Connecticut that Mohegan's son July
Speaker 1: twenty nine through August twod so Sean Sean, Yeah, Sean
Speaker 1: and I have done a couple of I will he's
Speaker 1: He's great. We did a panel together I think where, God,
Speaker 1: I can't remember, somewhere in this I think it was Charlotte,
Speaker 1: North Carolina someplace. Um, but yeah, I see am I
Speaker 1: ce Milo on the convention circuit. Um. We did a
Speaker 1: panel together in Houston at the Pandemic tour. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I get to see these guys on the road in
Speaker 1: working situations, you know. Okay, you know, for the when
Speaker 1: we did the reboot, I remember Milo. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite stories about him was set. We had been working
Speaker 1: that day earlier that day, and then I think we're
Speaker 1: getting ready to read the next script, which he was
Speaker 1: was just going to be his first appearance in the reboot,
Speaker 1: and we do it on our lunch break, so I know,
Speaker 1: I have been working all that day and you know.
Speaker 1: And so then so then we go over to the
Speaker 1: space where we're gonna do read the script. Well, I
Speaker 1: had I had to go to the bathroom because it
Speaker 1: was it was like, okay, you know, because the scripts
Speaker 1: are really thick and so and so. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: rushing to get get to the bathroom and Milo sees
Speaker 1: me and it's the first time he seen me in years.
Speaker 1: He was so excited. He allowed me into the men's room.
Speaker 1: I think comes in he said, I'm sorry, George something,
Speaker 1: but I was just so excited to see you. I
Speaker 1: just have to come and give you a hug. I said, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well let's do it. Now, do I do anything else?
Speaker 1: So he gives me a big old hug in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: At least you didn't do it during, right, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. No, no, no, I haven't gotten that point yet.
Speaker 1: He got to be before. But yeah, I'll do those guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just love him to Jared, Milo and Matt,
Speaker 1: they're all just I'm just so happy for all of
Speaker 1: them that they're doing well and very well. They're doing
Speaker 1: very very well. Georgie. How about time? It's time for
Speaker 1: rapid fire? Ready for rapid fire? Yeah, okay, I want
Speaker 1: to fire some questions at you rapidly, and I would
Speaker 1: like to ask for rapid answers if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: But here we go. Ready, How do you take your coffee?
Speaker 1: Can you smell snow? No? Are you team Logan, Jess
Speaker 1: or Dean? All three? Who's the daddy? I have no clue.
Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls? Oh god, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't everything just the actors being with all the actors
Speaker 1: show you're binge watching right now? Um? Well, I just
Speaker 1: saw one episode of Loki on Disney Plus, but I
Speaker 1: think I may start back on Gilmore Girls. After watching
Speaker 1: the episode yesterday, I was like, Oh, it's been a while,
Speaker 1: cast member. You texted most recently and I think we
Speaker 1: know the answer that one. Patty, Oh, I thought it
Speaker 1: was me and then text mess oh yeah what do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He texted Patty. You just just texted me before we
Speaker 1: went on the air. Huh. I text Patty just before
Speaker 1: to say that I was going to be doing the podcast,
Speaker 1: So then I I got your text. Alright, puddy, all
Speaker 1: right do it was so great to see you and
Speaker 1: talk to you, and please come back, please please please
Speaker 1: come back. Okay, Oh any time you know you you
Speaker 1: let me know I'm there, and hey, I want to
Speaker 1: come and see the family. Yes, Nick, nick seven now yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting old anyway, Georgie, it was great, Senor. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time and uh, just a fantastic catching
Speaker 1: up with him. We'll do it again as soon as
Speaker 1: it was my pleasure. Okay, thank you to all the
Speaker 1: fans are being so loyal to much. Yeah all right, George,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And uh and we'll see you soon, buddy.
Speaker 1: Take care be well. I will take care you too. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. He was like every morning
Speaker 1: he was in my trailer. We were running lines, dishing
Speaker 1: the dirt, eating. You know. He was just great guy
Speaker 1: to hang out. He was just really remember so much too.
Speaker 1: That was why I love talking to him, because he
Speaker 1: has all the great memories. Oh, he's fantastic in every way.
Speaker 1: He upped the level of that show. He really did anyway,
Speaker 1: Wasn't that fantastic? George Bell one of my favorite people,
Speaker 1: not just from the set of Gilmore Girls, but in
Speaker 1: the world. What a what a great, great guy and
Speaker 1: fantastic human being, fantastic dialogue coach and a fantastic actor.
Speaker 1: He couldn't do the dialogue coaching at the level he
Speaker 1: does it without being a great actor himself. He understands it.
Speaker 1: And whenever I tried to do run lines with other
Speaker 1: people to prep for the show, it just wasn't as good.
Speaker 1: It wasn't George Bell. So it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd go, can you just, you know, go a little faster,
Speaker 1: Can you just give me this or that or that?
Speaker 1: And people just don't understand being a dialogue coach. That
Speaker 1: was a tough job. But he was perfect for it,
Speaker 1: and he he could play anything. He did play anything.
Speaker 1: He played all those characters intense job. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the notes he had to take and
Speaker 1: knowing this was take three, this was take five, they
Speaker 1: got it on take six, they didn't get it. It
Speaker 1: was like, this is like mathematical and and the thing
Speaker 1: is is you never saw the guy working. It didn't
Speaker 1: seem like work for him. You never saw him in
Speaker 1: a bad mood. He was always jovial and happy and
Speaker 1: and conversational. And it's it's like, it's like he wasn't
Speaker 1: even working. It's it was wild. He was always in
Speaker 1: a great mood and just so efficient with what he did,
Speaker 1: and it was just all very effortless. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was really important to that show. He was really really
Speaker 1: key to that show. And uh, I hope somehow he
Speaker 1: gets some kind of honorarium from the studio maybe or
Speaker 1: from the creators. Maybe an honorarium is in store, because man,
Speaker 1: he contributed mightily to that whole production. I think we
Speaker 1: have some questions for you, Scott, for me, Yeah, Daniel,
Speaker 1: you want to bring him in? Oh my goodness, here
Speaker 1: she is Joanna. Hello, how are you welcome to the podcast? Hi?
Speaker 1: Nice to me too. And where are you? Um? Where
Speaker 1: are you calling in from New York City? Oh? You're
Speaker 1: in New York City. So you sent um a pretty
Speaker 1: detailed email to the show pointing out the fact that
Speaker 1: I was incredibly wrong about some specificity, some some details
Speaker 1: of the show. If I am not mistaken and I
Speaker 1: did read it, Sorry, no, no, no, no, I mean
Speaker 1: this is what we love. Like, like we said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast, we want feedback, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's a super positive and super supportive or you
Speaker 1: know you're correcting us. Hey, I love it. That's why
Speaker 1: you're on the show, your honesty, and we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and and and let's let's discuss it.
Speaker 1: What what did you uh, what did you see and
Speaker 1: what did you feel the burning desire to point out
Speaker 1: to us? Yeah? Sorry, So what do you guys were
Speaker 1: talking last week about how Luca has been in love
Speaker 1: with lorelife for sixteen years and and that's not true.
Speaker 1: They actually only met about for five years before that
Speaker 1: episode happened, because and they will see it tell us
Speaker 1: how you know, because I am totally okay. So in
Speaker 1: the episode that's coming up in a little bit further
Speaker 1: down still this season, the concert interrupted us actually the
Speaker 1: one that previous guest was talking about, where they go
Speaker 1: to a concert in the city. Anyway, in that episode, um,
Speaker 1: Rachel comes up for the first time, and uh, when
Speaker 1: Rachel comes up, loyalized like, you know, just totally dumbfounded.
Speaker 1: Who's who's this blue had a girlfriend? What's when and
Speaker 1: so there's this conversation that happens with Miss Patty and
Speaker 1: with Suki, and uh, it comes out that you know,
Speaker 1: they said that he had this girlfriend Rachel five or
Speaker 1: six years before, and Suki says, and Laura I respond,
Speaker 1: how did I miss this? Like you know, where was I?
Speaker 1: And Suki says, well, Rory was eleven. You were just
Speaker 1: moving into this house. So that's one of the times
Speaker 1: that we get timing. And then we also later on
Speaker 1: in the series confirmation from something that Luke says, um
Speaker 1: that also matches up time and wise. But so it's
Speaker 1: only been like four or five years. Have you ever Joe,
Speaker 1: and let me let me ask you a question, have
Speaker 1: you ever been so deeply in love with somebody over
Speaker 1: a period of time that I'm not saying five years
Speaker 1: in a long time. One year one year of being
Speaker 1: in an unrequited love situation seems like we're years. So
Speaker 1: if it's four or five years that I was in
Speaker 1: love with her, according to you, and I know Luke's
Speaker 1: heart was so deeply um good, what what is the word?
Speaker 1: So deeply affected by Laura La that it seemed like
Speaker 1: sixteen years. I'm not saying that five years four years
Speaker 1: isn't a long time. I'm just saying that it wasn't
Speaker 1: you know the timeline? Can we can I ask a
Speaker 1: timeline question though? So it she was just moving into
Speaker 1: the house, but she lived with that woman that owned
Speaker 1: the the inn, right, did they know each other? They
Speaker 1: just weren't so tight that she would have been aware
Speaker 1: of the girlfriend or did they not know each other yet? No?
Speaker 1: That and this comes this comes up in this conversation.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give stuff away. It's okay, it's okay,
Speaker 1: we we need the timeline, so it's okay. But so
Speaker 1: when when looking a lot Laura, I finally go on
Speaker 1: a date, uh, and Luke says, very it's like eight
Speaker 1: years has been uh at that point, and that happens
Speaker 1: at the well, I don't want to say what it happens,
Speaker 1: but that happens. So we feel like, I like I
Speaker 1: ruined some stuff for some of the people. You're amazing,
Speaker 1: You're doing great. So we had the timeline a little screwy, Scott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And what what we were talking about on Instagram was
Speaker 1: that part of actually how because everybody was saying, how
Speaker 1: does that even make sense? Like? How did she not
Speaker 1: go to Lukes well, when they were living in the
Speaker 1: Independence Inn, which as Rory was growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: from the age of whatever. However, many months or one
Speaker 1: until she was eleven and they moved into the house.
Speaker 1: Clearly lower Ali had no money. She must have been
Speaker 1: just saving up. They didn't go to Luke's. They certainly
Speaker 1: were eating for free at the Independent sense. So that's
Speaker 1: how it all makes sense. Because the other pendcon is,
Speaker 1: you know, still have known each other in passing. Maybe
Speaker 1: they knew each other just like from around town. Is
Speaker 1: there any chance? No chance? No, I think Luke knows
Speaker 1: very specifically when he first saw so we'll get into it,
Speaker 1: I'm sure later. But Scott, you did love her at
Speaker 1: first sight, absolutely so deeply that the first week seemed
Speaker 1: like a month, and the first year seemed like four years.
Speaker 1: That's held deeply, it was. It's like beyond thunderstruck, beyond
Speaker 1: beyond you know what I mean, so beyond that you
Speaker 1: can't even act on it. It's so because this is
Speaker 1: why we need help, because yeah, we we aren't well.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for coming on and
Speaker 1: pointing it out. Keep it coming, because we're gonna blow
Speaker 1: something else. Soon enough. It's already happened here and there.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, and and and it's and it's wonderful
Speaker 1: to meet you. And again, thank you so very very much. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for having me up. Okay, Joanna, take
Speaker 1: care well that was Joanna. Thank you Joanna for coming on.
Speaker 1: Love that. Uh you know, braceis man can get us,
Speaker 1: you know, cracked the whip on us. Man. We we
Speaker 1: love that kind of stuff. Thank you so much, Joanna.
Speaker 1: Um And like I said, I'm I'm sticking with the
Speaker 1: thunderstruck every year. It was like four years for for
Speaker 1: Luke and that's why he's That's why I said sixteen
Speaker 1: years because that's what it was like for me as
Speaker 1: an actor. Um. Anyway, UM, so we're gonna turn this
Speaker 1: into a two parter because we're gonna we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to recap the episode as a team, uh
Speaker 1: and then just you know, we'll drop it. We'll drop
Speaker 1: a separate episode in the same week because there's just
Speaker 1: so much to unpack here and we need to really
Speaker 1: go into this. Just everybody stay tuned because we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a full recap on Kiss and Tell, like right away.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so there you go. Um, so everybody stay tuned.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a full recap of Kiss and Tell.
Speaker 1: It's on the way. It's going to be a separate episode.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna be a part two of Kiss
Speaker 1: and Tell. Um anyway, thanks everybody for tuning in and downloading.
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