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Speaker 1: Hard. Welcome to lay Kick is Live. It is Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: December seventeenth year of our Lord, twenty twenty National Signing

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Speaker 1: Day in the books, it was you and I and

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Speaker 1: Barton and Steve Woollfong, director Colin Trey, a cast of

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Speaker 1: several thousand others. It felt like but not really, for

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Speaker 1: eight hours straight in this very room yesterday. But yet

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Speaker 1: we got through it thanks in large part to you, guys,

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for tuning in. Heard a

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Speaker 1: lot of good feedback from you, saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: good numbers from you, so I know good and well

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Speaker 1: you guys were watching, even if you don't admit it,

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Speaker 1: and we really appreciate you hanging in there with us.

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Speaker 1: So that's obviously in the rearview mirror now, but there

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Speaker 1: is a lot still to chop up about it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you some very overarching thoughts about Signing Day tonight.

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Speaker 1: I am also going to do several more conference championship

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Speaker 1: game picks tonight. We got the SEC and the ACC

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Speaker 1: out of the way the other night, but some of

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Speaker 1: the games I'm most looking forward to, including one I

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Speaker 1: have just a vested emotional interest in. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: break down in just a few minutes. The Auburn coaching

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Speaker 1: search got a little I wouldn't call it a blockbuster

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Speaker 1: tidbit of information, but got some information today, So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to deliver that to you. I know there have

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Speaker 1: been several reports I've seen floating around out there today.

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Speaker 1: I will come in as much as I can on that. Again,

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Speaker 1: as I told you the other night, just because there's

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Speaker 1: a new tweet or new report every hour or a

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Speaker 1: post every hour, doesn't mean there's new news every hour.

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Speaker 1: So we'll do our best to get you caught up

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Speaker 1: on the Auburn coaching search with apparently no end in sight,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to deliver best bets. I thought at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the week, I told Colin when he

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Speaker 1: was making the graphic, we're probably not going to have

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Speaker 1: all five of our little Rama Noodle Express boxes filled up.

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. We have all five, so we are

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Speaker 1: going to have two new picks against the number before

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Speaker 1: we go off the air. I have not tweeted these out.

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Speaker 1: They were just added in like the last hour. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot to get to tonight. Got a

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Speaker 1: jampack show, so let's dive into it, and I want

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Speaker 1: to start with some signing day thought. So yesterday was

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Speaker 1: obviously a day the lights of which the sport of

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Speaker 1: college football has never seen. This studio has certainly never

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Speaker 1: seen it. And the reason is because of so many

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Speaker 1: things converging. It's conference championship week. Then we've got because

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Speaker 1: of the dates were pushed back, early signing day happening

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of it. I have it on

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Speaker 1: good authority that coaching staffs for Florida, Oklahoma, Alabama, it

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Speaker 1: was very commonplace to have coaching staffs actually on the

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Speaker 1: field yesterday just walking around with these I'm holding up

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Speaker 1: a cell phone if you're listening on the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: you just had to multitask. I listened to several press

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Speaker 1: conferences afterwards yesterday and coaches were just kind of open

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Speaker 1: about the fact that can't complain about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just got to deal with it. No one cares

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Speaker 1: if you lose Saturday afternoon or Saturday night. No one's

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you in the postgame. Coach, it must have

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Speaker 1: been hard because you had to deal with two things

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Speaker 1: at one time this week. All they're going to say is,

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Speaker 1: you get paid eight plus million dollars a year. You

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Speaker 1: should be able to deal with it, and so it

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Speaker 1: was a really unique situation. Some things that I noticed.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we walked out of here, and I

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Speaker 1: was driving home last night, eventually or a final, I

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Speaker 1: was sneaking back to our show. I couldn't remember the date,

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Speaker 1: but I went back and found it. It was May twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: and we were sitting in this very studio. It's an

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Speaker 1: eternity ago. Now COVID had just set in. We were

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Speaker 1: a little ways into it. Staffs had come off the road,

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Speaker 1: and recruiting classes were very quickly piling up verbal commitments.

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Speaker 1: Remember this this was the era in time that Tennessee

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Speaker 1: was a top five class. Ohio State was way up there.

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Speaker 1: They were the number one class by a mile. Alabama

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Speaker 1: worst class ever? Under Nick Saban. Now the answer for

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Speaker 1: asked him, there are some programs without mentioning names Tennessee

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Speaker 1: that are racking up verbal commitments. You guys haven't really

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Speaker 1: taken many as far as we can tell publicly, granted

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Speaker 1: we can't see the whole picture. Have you chosen to

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Speaker 1: take a different approach? And he said, we're not doing

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Speaker 1: see find me in December. You'll see. So yesterday arrives

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Speaker 1: and there we have not only Alabama surpassing every one

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Speaker 1: lock up the highest rated class of all time, which

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Speaker 1: Steve Wilfong kind of he kind of flagged us down

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Speaker 1: was physically positioned yesterday, and so he waves us down.

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Speaker 1: I just tossed to him. I don't know what he's

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Speaker 1: about to say, and he says, Jojo Earl. Got to

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Speaker 1: look at Barton, gotta look back. What about him? He's

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Speaker 1: going to lsu Well, not anymore, he's not. He just

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Speaker 1: sign with Alabama today. So here's what had happened. Xavier

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Speaker 1: he has been committed to Michigan for a while. One

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Speaker 1: feels like Alabama probably got those same headwinds because they

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Speaker 1: out the fact that by the time the next NFL

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. Well, you could never replace that. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: so the perception was different from the reality there. The

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I found really interesting for their

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Speaker 1: many opportunities to talk about Ohio State on the Signing

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Speaker 1: Day show. I cannot remember off the top of my head. Colin.

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Speaker 1: not how Ryan Day views his program, though he doesn't

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we beat Rutgers into a coma. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many touchdowns we beat Michigan State by,

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Speaker 1: Clemson Saturday. That's a really good team that's ranked two

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Speaker 1: a good position when we play Alabama or Clemson, because

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Speaker 1: casual football fan sees LSU just cratering last week, notwithstanding

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Speaker 1: them win this game is the fact that they feel

429
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Speaker 1: like they have an advance their offensive line versus Oklahoma

430
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 1: up front. They feel like they can disrupt all day.

431
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: They feel like even if you have a running back

432
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: now that you didn't in the first go round. They

433
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 1: feel like they can throw off timing in rhythm enough

434
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: to where they can stand up physically to Oklahoma and

435
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: they can take advantage offensively, maybe like Baylor in Oklahoma

436
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 1: State Camp. I didn't have call and do game capsules.

437
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: I will tell you that as the line is five

438
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: and a half on this one, our numbers are a

439
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Speaker 1: lot shorter. And because of that, because as I told you,

440
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: I have a vested interest here, just a strong bias

441
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: towards the cyclones. We're going to take Iowa State to cover,

442
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: and I'm going to also take Iowa State to win.

443
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: And as strongly as I've been a proponent of certing

444
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: certain teams making the playoff, if we're in a world

445
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: by four point thirty on Saturday afternoon where Iowa State

446
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: has won the Big twelve championship and they currently sit

447
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: at number six in the playoff rankings, you will never

448
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: see anyone more obnoxiously and openly stump for a team

449
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs than I will for Iowa State.

450
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Speaker 1: Let's move on, or again versus us See Southern Cal

451
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: a three and a half point favorite, maybe a three

452
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: point favorite now depending on where you look. This is

453
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: a Friday night game, so keep that in mind. It's

454
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. It's eight o'clock Eastern time on Fox. It's

455
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: in the coliseum in LA. Do you remember this time

456
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: last year? Kind of doing some some research on this

457
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: game and the PAC twelve championship game last year was

458
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: Oregon in Utah, and I you know, I had trouble

459
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: remembering it had gone down like this, but it did.

460
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: Utah was going to the College football Playoff if they

461
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: won the game. In all likelihood, and then Oregon smashed

462
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: them thirty seven to fifteen, ended up not being close

463
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: and knocked Utah out of the game. And I wonder,

464
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Speaker 1: is this Southern cal playoff juice reel right now? I,

465
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Speaker 1: for the record, don't believe it is. I don't care

466
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: which network out there uses what kind of branded predictor

467
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: to tell you they've got a fifty percent shot of

468
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Speaker 1: making this playoff. They don't. They don't have a zero

469
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: percent shot. They sure as heck don't have a fifty

470
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Speaker 1: percent shot. So Oregon, you make the case for him here.

471
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do something in reverse. I'm gonna tell

472
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: you ahead of time. I'm taken Orgon to win the

473
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Speaker 1: game outright, not just cover. I'm gonna take a second

474
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: underdog in as many games to win the game outright.

475
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Speaker 1: How am I gonna make the case for this Because

476
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: they've not been consistent all year? Have they? They've been

477
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Speaker 1: turnover prone all year? Well, therein kind of lies my argument.

478
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm a believer that good teams, good talented teams, eventually

479
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: have a complete game in their arsenal. Here's how I'm

480
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: choosing to look at Orgon this week. I've got a

481
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: feeling that they will play the best football we've seen

482
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Speaker 1: them play at the most important moment, which is the

483
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Speaker 1: conference title game. What makes me believe that is Number one.

484
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Speaker 1: They strike me as one of those teams in a

485
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Speaker 1: normal year that would stumble over themselves early in the year.

486
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Speaker 1: But you know, hey, the parts here are greater than

487
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Speaker 1: the sum supposed to be different. And eventually you get

488
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Speaker 1: to week seven, week eight. This happens every year. You

489
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Speaker 1: get to week seven or week eight and all of

490
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Speaker 1: a sudden the team that you wrote off early starts

491
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: to hit it stride. Well, that could be happening this

492
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Speaker 1: year too. The only difference is we don't have a

493
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Speaker 1: twelve week season. We only have a five, six to

494
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Speaker 1: seven week season. And so there's going to be some

495
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Speaker 1: team and I'm going to count on it being Oregon

496
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: this week. Sorry, I had a hiccup there that hits

497
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Speaker 1: its stride, except instead of a midseason stride, it's a

498
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Speaker 1: conference championship game stride. The second thing, and it's a

499
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Speaker 1: more tangible reason that gives me hope here is you

500
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: know what our philosophy on turnovers is, especially when we

501
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: have a team that's been disproportionately negatively impacted by turnovers

502
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: versus a team that's been disproportionately positively impacted by turnovers.

503
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: Oregon has lost games or struggled mightily to win them

504
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: because they've turned the ball over. USC conversely, has been

505
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of that. Those are very random

506
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: occurrences broad strokes purposes. Some teams are more disciplined than others,

507
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: and therefore some teams can control the ball and protect

508
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: the ball more than others. But in a one game setting,

509
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: that's very, very unpredictable. And so when you get some

510
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: of those the results that are baked in to make

511
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: this number, this Southern cal minus three and a half

512
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: number have been bored orn out of plus and minus

513
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: turnover differentials. Thus the outcomes of games, and what I'm

514
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: telling you is just as easily in this game, Oregon

515
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: could end up being plus one turnovers. If they are,

516
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: it totally renders every model in every algorithm that was

517
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Speaker 1: used to generate this line. Moot, that's what we're counting on. Thirdly,

518
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: I just think Organ's a really good team, and I

519
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: also look at the teams that have given them trouble.

520
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: For instance, Oregon Oregon state that game I was listening

521
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: to on the radio, Oregon State had a lot of

522
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Speaker 1: success running the ball against the Ducks. Ucla almost beat

523
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Oregon had some success running the ball against Oregon. Southern

524
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: Cal's not going to do it. I don't even care

525
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: if you are a weak against the run. Southern Cal's

526
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Speaker 1: just not that kind of team. So I believe that

527
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Speaker 1: Oregon will have at least a little firmer footing being

528
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Speaker 1: able to defend enough in this game to give themselves

529
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Speaker 1: a real winnable shot. I think they're going to win

530
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: the game, and I think they're going to cover. So

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Speaker 1: give me the Ducks plus three and a half and

532
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: give me the Ducks to win outright. And the Big

533
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Speaker 1: Ten Championship game is Saturday at noon Eastern time on Fox.

534
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Speaker 1: This is OHI So State minus twenty and a half

535
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Speaker 1: against Northwestern. This is normally in a primetime spot. I

536
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: don't know what changed this this year. Well, I guess

537
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: everything changed this year. That's how this is normally an

538
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: eight o'clock Eastern time kickoff. Why is that important here?

539
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: It's not because it's a premier matchup. I mean, there's

540
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: a three touchdown favorite nearly, but it's important to note

541
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Speaker 1: you will know before the ACC Title Game starts. You

542
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: will know what the Ohio State Buckeyes did. You'll know

543
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: if they lost, that in and of itself will be

544
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: a huge story. You'll know if they won close. There

545
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: are some out there who believe Ohio State needs to

546
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: win and win impressively Saturday just to make sure they're in.

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I believe that, but there are

548
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: some out there who believe that. Either way, you will know,

549
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: for better or for worse, what the outcome is there.

550
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Texas A and M will be playing simultaneous

551
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: to this, so you'll also know if Texas A and

552
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: M is giving themselves a shot or not by the

553
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Speaker 1: time the ACC title Game kicks off. So I tried

554
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Speaker 1: to make a path for Northwestern in this game. Anytime

555
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: there's a big underdog. As I've told you before, I

556
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Speaker 1: try and make the breakdown what I think the path

557
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: to an upset would be. I really didn't find one,

558
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: and I got all the confidence and respect in the

559
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: world in Pat Fitzgerald. I just don't think they have

560
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: a good enough team and they certainly can't afford to

561
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: fall behind. They don't score enough. They just have trouble scoring.

562
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: And here's what I did. I've tried to go the

563
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: emergency disaster scenario. Let's say they're able to hold Ohio

564
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: State to twenty four points. I strongly doubt they will

565
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: be able to. But even in that best case scenario,

566
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find twenty five points for Northwestern unless there's

567
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Speaker 1: a meltdown again of turnover proportions, and there's no skill

568
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Speaker 1: in predicting that. I just don't think it's there. I've

569
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Speaker 1: heard the reports, just like you guys may have, or rumors.

570
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: I guess we should call them like you guys have

571
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: today about potential COVID issues for Ohio State. Maybe Chris

572
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: Olave maybe not listen. If he doesn't play, let's just

573
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: assume he's not playing. This prediction remains the same. I'm

574
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: going to take Ohio State to win. I don't have

575
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: a strong feel on the line. Our numbers think it's

576
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: right in line with what we believe the outcome will be.

577
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: But I'll take Ohio State minus twenty and a half

578
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: as an odds makers begging me to think I'm getting

579
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: good value by not having to lay three full touchdowns.

580
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: I'll go into that not actually putting money on it.

581
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State wins Ohio State minus twenty and a half.

582
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Auburn. Oh boy, So, Gus

583
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Mauson has been out of a job for several days now,

584
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Speaker 1: and when Gus Mauson was announced as being out at

585
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Auburn Sunday, a lot of my Auburn folks rejoiced. I

586
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: remember it. I still have the emails. In fact, I

587
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: could pull them up right now, but I won't do

588
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: that to you. What I am doing is pulling up

589
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Auburn undercover dot com to make sure that Auburn hasn't

590
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: hired a coach since we went on air. Play it safe.

591
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: They haven't. It doesn't look like so. Do you remember

592
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: what you felt like when the announcement came down that

593
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: Gus Malson was fired? And I'm talking specifically to Auburn

594
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: fans at the moment, you can think along with me,

595
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: even if you're not an Auburn fan. What'd you feel like?

596
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: A lot of you felt like you needed to rejoice.

597
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: A lot of you felt like going outside and blowing

598
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: the car horn. Let's just celebrate because we're finally going

599
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: to get rid of this mediocre coach, this average coach,

600
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: and it can only get better. And I want to

601
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: remind you average is average for a reason. There's just

602
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: as much below it as there is above it. But

603
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people think average is the floor. Average

604
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: isn't the floor. Average is the floor of the second level.

605
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: There's this entire level underneath it. It's called the basement,

606
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: and you can easily fall down the stairs and find

607
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: yourself there for an extended period of time if you

608
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. I don't know that Auburn

609
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing right now. So I want to

610
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: ask you what were your feelings when Malzon first got

611
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: fired Auburn fans, and what are your feelings now, because

612
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: now one of your big fishes is off the table.

613
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: A lot of you thought it was a foregone conclusion

614
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Mario Cristobaul was going to be the head coach at Auburn.

615
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: It was never going to happen. We never even gave

616
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: it serious traction on this show. We never bought into it. However,

617
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: there are other names out there. So all I could

618
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: think about yesterday is we did the signing Day show,

619
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: even though we didn't talk about it on air. A lot.

620
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: All I could think about was Auburn. And it wasn't

621
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: cause we were talking about Auburn. Auburn's rank fortieth. We

622
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about the

623
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Tiger's recruiting class. All I could think about was we

624
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: were talking about Alabama NonStop. We were talking about LSU NonStop.

625
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: We talked about Georgia a fair amount. We talked about

626
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: A and M. And you know what those four teams

627
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: have in common. There's one program in America that has

628
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to play all four of them every year, and it's

629
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: the Auburn Tigers. One of several reasons why I think

630
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: it's the toughest job pound for pounding college football is

631
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: because of the unique blend of expectations, the intersection of

632
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: expectation and challenge. There's nothing like it in the sport

633
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: of college football like exists at Auburn. And those teams

634
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: aren't slowing down. Those programs aren't slowing down. And I'm

635
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, as I remember what I shared with

636
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: you Tuesday night before signing day, I told you some

637
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: people close to this coaching search had indicated signing day

638
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal to them. They were not basing

639
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: any timeline or any decision on signing day, which to

640
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: me is stupid, is what it is. It's really just stupid.

641
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Recruiting is the lifeblood of this sport, and so I

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Speaker 1: want you to think about two different programs. Think about

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Speaker 1: South Carolina and think about Auburn. There's no way that

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Speaker 1: Gus Malzan in the last couple of weeks of the

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Speaker 1: season convinced you he wasn't the answer for Auburn. Like

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Speaker 1: if you didn't think he was, if you weren't sold

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Speaker 1: on him after the Mississippi State game, that means you

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Speaker 1: weren't sold on him well before that. Why didn't you

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Speaker 1: fire him? Why didn't you do like they did with

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Speaker 1: muss Champ, get him out the door with a month

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Speaker 1: left to go, so you get a head start on

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Speaker 1: the coaching market and you could hopefully get someone in

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Speaker 1: place to where kids who are thinking about signing with

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Speaker 1: Auburn and maybe even want to sign with Auburn have

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Speaker 1: a reason to sign with Auburn because there's some stability,

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Speaker 1: there's at least some tangible vision of the future. But

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Speaker 1: they didn't because people running this coaching search don't really

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Speaker 1: have a firm grasp of how college football works, as

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Speaker 1: it turns out shocking, I know for those who have

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Speaker 1: followed Auburn before. And so they fumbled the ball. And

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Speaker 1: now Auburn's sitting there with a very poor recruiting class,

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Speaker 1: watching their rivals rosters distance themselves further, and all the while,

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Speaker 1: you seem to be no closer to hiring a head

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Speaker 1: it looked like maybe someone was going to be locked

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Speaker 1: up within forty eight hours. That wasn't the case. That's

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Speaker 1: why when I told you, some people close to the

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Speaker 1: search think they've got their ma'am. They can think that

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Speaker 1: it's reality that they thought it would go pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: But there's also a second reality that could be in place.

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Speaker 1: The second reality could be maybe you get used for

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Speaker 1: leverage for someone trying to get themselves extended elsewhere. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's happening. You have no way to climb into someone's

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Speaker 1: head and know what they're doing. There is no sure thing.

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Speaker 1: But now what we're looking at is we're looking at

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Speaker 1: you paying twenty one million dollars for a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been pretty darn good not to coach for you anymore.

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Speaker 1: And you having no earthly idea where you're going. If

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Speaker 1: Kevin Steele is hired as the head coach at Auburn,

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Speaker 1: they will revolt. A lot of the fan base will revolt.

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Speaker 1: And I don't blame you one bit. Like I've told

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Speaker 1: you before, there's some folks who make fun of fans

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Speaker 1: for being overly passionate. I don't like. I don't. First off,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that because you feel that way,

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Speaker 1: a company like twenty four to seven or CBSC is

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Speaker 1: fit to pay me money to sit here and talk

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Speaker 1: about this stuff because you're interested enough. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't even be able to do this

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Speaker 1: without you, So I've never been arrogant enough to think otherwise.

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Speaker 1: But also, I grew up in the South, I grew

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Speaker 1: up near Auburn. I understand why they feel the way

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Speaker 1: they do. They value that place. A lot of them

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Speaker 1: went there, obviously, or you got family that went there.

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Speaker 1: You value the product. You value Auburn. You value what

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Speaker 1: it represents, and therefore you value the football program as

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Speaker 1: being a symbol overall of what you believe Auburn to be,

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Speaker 1: and you invest in it financially. You invest emotionally. And

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Speaker 1: yet you got a few folks who have been successful

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Speaker 1: in other walks of life but have never made a

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Speaker 1: dime in the football world, thinking they're experts in the

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Speaker 1: football world because their money and their other ventures have

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Speaker 1: bought them access to the world of football. And now

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Speaker 1: they're running a search and instead of running it successfully,

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Speaker 1: they're running it into the ground, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: be left with the product. And if the product is,

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Speaker 1: for example, Kevin Steel, I got no problem with Kevin Steele.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a phenomenal coach. Is he qualified to

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Speaker 1: lead a program one of the ten or fifteen best

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Speaker 1: in America? Is that what Kevin Steel's resume, is that

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Speaker 1: what that nine and thirty six head coaching record would

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Speaker 1: tell you he's ready to do. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: You don't think so. You've spoken out against it, and

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you whatsoever. So I don't know which

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Speaker 1: direction Auburn's going to go. I just know they better

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Speaker 1: get serious, really really quick, because Bama, Georgia, lsu A,

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Speaker 1: and m they're not slowing down. They are getting further

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Speaker 1: and further distance from you in the horizon, and they're

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Speaker 1: not slowing down. You can either keep up or you

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Speaker 1: can be a speed bump for him four times a

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Speaker 1: year on the football field come fall. I hope I've

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Speaker 1: been clear there. I always talk about the Romannudle Express.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I get worked up over this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I have zero interest in Auburn like this stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to impact me one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: But I just have I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: guys watch the show, and so I know how you feel,

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Speaker 1: and it really aggravates me. Sometimes things mismanaged because you

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Speaker 1: got folks who really have no business being involved in

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Speaker 1: something involved in something. So I've said as much as

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Speaker 1: I can say, let's talk about let's talk about good

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Speaker 1: old fashioned sports betting, or just people who are interested

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Speaker 1: in point spreads and don't ever bet a dime on

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Speaker 1: this stuff. We already gave you some picks this week

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Speaker 1: on the Ramen Noodle Express. We are fifty seven point

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Speaker 1: eight percent against the spread this year. Let's get over

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Speaker 1: fifty eight to end the year. Missouri is playing Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: That is a Saturday game. We've got the Tigers of

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Speaker 1: Missouri minus one and a half Oregon three and a

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Speaker 1: half point underdog against Southern cal we're taking the Ducks

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Speaker 1: plus three and a half. We're taking Washington State plus

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Speaker 1: ten and a half against Utah. These are the two

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Speaker 1: new numbers we are releasing them right now. Northwestern versus

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, we're taking under fifty seven in that game,

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Speaker 1: and we are indeed writing the fighting irish of Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame plus ten and a half against Clemson. So, for

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Speaker 1: those of you listening on podcast, Missouri minus one and

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Speaker 1: a half, Oregon plus three and a half, Washington State

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Speaker 1: plus ten and a half, Northwestern Ohi Io State under

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Speaker 1: fifty seven, and Notre Dame plus ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: Been a really good week. I will give you a

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Speaker 1: heads up because I had someone cancel on me today.

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Speaker 1: First come, first serve. I've got one or two consultation

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Speaker 1: sessions open tomorrow night. Those of you interested in sports media,

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Speaker 1: you may want to start a podcast, YouTube channel, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case. Email me and grab that. Probably by the

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Speaker 1: time we end the show they'll be taken. So joshpat

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Speaker 1: seven zero six at gmail dot com or follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Latekickjosh. It also occurred to me that

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Speaker 1: we are close to one thousand five star reviews on

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Speaker 1: the Late Kick podcast so far. More than a thousand

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Speaker 1: people are going to watch this show. In fact, we

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Speaker 1: had about forty some odd k watch on YouTube alone

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Speaker 1: the other night. So do me a favor. At least

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Speaker 1: a thousand of you. Go over and find the Late

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Speaker 1: Kick Podcast in your Apple podcast feed, or your brothers

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Speaker 1: or your mom, steal a phone if you have to,

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Speaker 1: and give us a five star review. Get us over

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Speaker 1: one thousand. It's been one of the goals of ours

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Speaker 1: all year, one of the very few result oriented goals

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Speaker 1: we have around here. We have that Nick Saban attitude

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Speaker 1: process over prize until it's December seventeenth and New Year's

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Speaker 1: is on the horizon, and we want to get a thousand.

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Speaker 1: So give us a five star review on the Late

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Speaker 1: Kick Podcast. Several of you already have. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for that. And with that, it's time for director

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Speaker 1: Colin and I to go hibernate for pretty much the

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Speaker 1: entire weekend. So for Director Colin, for myself or producer

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Speaker 1: Jordan on the podcast side of things, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for making this a very very good week for us.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to a weekend full of great games. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you back here Sunday nights. Until then, have yourselves

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Speaker 1: a great rest of your evening, and God bless