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Speaker 1: For John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast, John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love them. I can't get enough of them. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear that box.

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Speaker 3: Big job there Forctufia Cracker.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 5: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Give me the live, no more live to take, Ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: give me the live on a Monday, Happy tax Day, Monday,

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Speaker 6: April fifteen, twenty twenty four, Episode four eighty two of

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Speaker 6: the Antic and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: You have C three hundred is in the can.

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Speaker 1: We are live.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna start going live twice a week, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 6: not just to commemorate events like UFC three hundred. I

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Speaker 6: got an extra pep in my step today. Ken fl

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Speaker 6: It's good to see you, buddy. It was great to

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Speaker 6: see in Vegas Anakin Florian podcast on location.

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Speaker 5: How are we feeling?

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Speaker 1: Likewise?

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Speaker 3: Man, the live shows just feel different energetically, it's different,

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Speaker 3: and I imagine for UFC three hundred, man, it must

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Speaker 3: have been amazing. What a card rarely, you know, you

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Speaker 3: see this huge build up for all these fights, you know,

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Speaker 3: top to bottom, it was the biggest card I think

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Speaker 6: It certainly had everything, and it was laid out beautifully

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Speaker 6: by the promotion. And it's always fun for us to

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Speaker 6: look to our right while we're broadcasting these events and

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Speaker 6: UFC matchmakers and their responsiveness to a given fight that

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Speaker 6: they have put together, even a fight like Bobby Green

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Speaker 6: and Jim Miller. Promotionally, they were adamant four times to

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Speaker 6: put that fight together, and man Bobby Green was leaking

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Speaker 6: blood of Jim Miller all over that octagon and it

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Speaker 6: just sort of snowballed from there. A tremendous show. We're

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Speaker 6: going to recap the ever living, fucking daylights out of

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Speaker 6: it with you today.

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Speaker 5: We're also going to talk to Ray Longo.

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Speaker 6: We'll ask him how it felt to have the only

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Speaker 6: winning fighter boot at UFC three hundred. No, I'm just kidding,

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Speaker 6: but I'm gonna give it hard to Ray Longo as

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Speaker 6: I usually do. He'll join us at the bottom of

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Speaker 6: the hour, and we are hoping to be with you

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Speaker 6: for a couple hours today live on the Anikin Flooring

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Speaker 6: podcast channel, DraftKings YouTube channel as well, and we will

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Speaker 6: get into all things UFC three hundred headlines brought you

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Speaker 6: by Cuervo. Now is a good time to enjoy the

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Speaker 6: tequila that invented tequila. So kind of feels like I

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Speaker 6: need to begin the Ray Long Go minute with Max

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Speaker 6: Holloway and not Al Jamaine Sterling, And kind of feels

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Speaker 6: like I should begin the show with Max West Holloway

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Speaker 6: and not the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Alex Padeta Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're sort of the A side of this podcast.

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Speaker 6: Three times you fought for the UFC title, tough for

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Speaker 6: US Team Florian folks that you never brought that home

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Speaker 5: Kidding, I mean, where do we even begin?

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Speaker 6: I guess I would just start with being so you know,

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Speaker 6: this fan base and this fight week and what this

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Speaker 6: Connor McGregor. Pay per views are enormous. Noch UFC is

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Speaker 5: We're very happy it's in the can.

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Speaker 1: You know, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It just felt it felt big to me just watching

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Speaker 3: of three hundred pay per view events. You know again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just being out there and fight week again.

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Speaker 1: Every time I'm there, it's a huge reminder of how

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Speaker 6: You know, it didn't have that International Fight Week Hall

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Speaker 6: gonna lead the program with Max Blessed Holloway if I could.

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Speaker 6: And if you had told Dana White and the UFC

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Speaker 6: bad motherfuckers, and in this case, the baddest motherfucker is

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Speaker 6: And I'm glad that not that he needed it, but

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Speaker 3: Isn't it so interesting how one performance can change the

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Speaker 1: To begin with? Absolutely? This was deserving.

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Speaker 5: Why won't you say it? Are you a role model?

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Speaker 1: No? Are you bad motherfuckers?

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Speaker 3: These guys are as bad as it gets right, This

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Speaker 3: let's take away the ending. If it didn't have that

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Speaker 1: Of bowing down to Max Holloway.

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Speaker 3: And it was a great reminder for me because I

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Speaker 1: I thought Geichee had this one in the bag.

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Speaker 3: Badly, badly, However, this was a masterful performance from Max

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Speaker 3: Holloway and similar to al Joe, which we will get to.

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Speaker 3: I think this weight class allows him to utilize the

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Speaker 1: Now it was a decimation he picked Geichie.

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Speaker 3: Apart aside from maybe round four, which he probably lost,

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Speaker 3: Holloway was on fire. He was utilizing all the right tools.

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Speaker 1: Now he decided to throw that.

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Speaker 3: All away with ten seconds, I wouldn't have done it right.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's because I'm a whimp, or I just wanted

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Speaker 1: I beat that guy.

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Speaker 3: And he decided to go there, throw the dice and

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Speaker 3: round five, you couldn't write a script better than that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Max Holloway maybe the greatest volume boxer in

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Speaker 5: This is just the cloth from which he is cut and.

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Speaker 6: Just couldn't happen to a better dude, Man, I just

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Speaker 6: And it's just like, dude, like Dana says, we sell

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Speaker 5: I don't have to be like, dude, holy shit, Like,

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Speaker 6: I come on, man, It's like, how many people didn't

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Speaker 5: Like come to a live and that, I dare you,

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Speaker 5: it'll ruin your marriage.

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Speaker 5: So I certainly think he has now found his correct

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Speaker 6: And when you harken back to the wins over Josealdo

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Speaker 6: Five million probably net on the night or something like that,

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Speaker 3: He set himself up now to be a contender title

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one fight with one performance.

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Speaker 3: And again it's another reminder you can change the trajectory

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Speaker 6: Well, full stop for me, with respect on toll Poitia

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Speaker 5: You're like the nicer.

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Speaker 3: in the plus one twenty five range. So close ish,

438
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Speaker 3: especially after that last performance but I would think Tolpouria

439
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: would still be the slight favorite heading into that one.

440
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 6: In terms of the leg kicks the Max Holloway absorbed

441
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 6: in this fight against Justin Gaetgee, A lot of fighters

442
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 6: say this is a toughness equation.

443
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 5: Now, we all have different.

444
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 6: Pain thresholds or whatever, right, But like when Cody Garbrand

445
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 6: fought Dominant Cruise, it was this virtuoso performance. Cody could

446
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 6: barely walk, as Data White acknowledged at the press conference.

447
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 6: Max Holloway's wearing super tight jeans and I see him

448
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 6: at the post show and he's not even limping, right,

449
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 6: So what a tough customer?

450
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really do you believe with the right spot?

451
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Speaker 6: Well, like Blah Muhammad repeatedly says, it's a toughness equation, right,

452
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 6: But like Connor McGregor when he absorbed those leg kicks

453
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 6: against Dustin Pourrier, like dude, like like physiological like look

454
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 6: the visual I mean, I don't know that any human

455
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 6: being would have been able to walk on that type

456
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Speaker 6: of injury, So I wouldn't sit here and suggest that, Like,

457
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 6: I think Connor's tough enough to take leg kicks, but

458
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 6: he was in a wheelchair. You know, so, like, do

459
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 6: you think it's a toughness quotient type thing or.

460
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Speaker 3: What I think it's a toughness quote you know, definitely

461
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: in that realm as far as having that toughness but

462
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: also having the ability to keep your composure so you're

463
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Speaker 3: not losing any added energy to the equation.

464
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Speaker 2: Right.

465
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: So, I think when you grew up in Hawaii and

466
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 3: you grow up in the way that Max Holloway did,

467
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 3: He's dealt with a ton of adversity, man, and he's

468
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: had a lot of street fights along the way. That's

469
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Speaker 3: just kind of the nature of, you know, living there,

470
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Speaker 3: and I think nothing kind of phases him at this state,

471
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Speaker 3: at this stage. You know, he's seen the worst of

472
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: it and this was no different. And he had a

473
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Speaker 3: ton of time in that octagon where I don't know,

474
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: he just brought that composure, that calmness, and of course

475
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Speaker 3: that toughness.

476
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Speaker 2: You know.

477
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: The dude something special man.

478
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Speaker 6: Yeah, congratulations to Max blessed Holloway on a life changing

479
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 6: night and performance. And anyone who watches this show regularly

480
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 6: knows that his performance against Calvin Cater from January of

481
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one on Fight Island on ABC is immortalized

482
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 6: behind me. That is the singular greatest performance that I

483
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: have seen with my own eyes.

484
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 5: But that was against Calvin Cater.

485
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 6: That was not against a prime Justin Gaetchee with chance

486
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 6: be in ship stakes, and obviously it wasn't punctuated with

487
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: a highlight like this with one second to go.

488
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 5: So I said to Max Holloway after this fight.

489
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 6: I can't believe you topped the Calvin Cater performance because

490
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 6: when I harken back to the best offensive performances I've

491
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 6: seen Kenny Colby Covington against Robbie Lawler, all the records

492
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 6: are Holloway versus Cater, and yet somehow he topped it.

493
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Speaker 5: So congrats to Max.

494
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 6: Hollow will get very long Goo's thoughts on that, but

495
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 6: what an absolute warrior. And Hawaii couldn't have a better

496
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 6: guy to roof for and get behind. And the same

497
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 6: can be said for Danbury, Connecticut's own Alex Padea can flow.

498
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 5: A Salpolo Brazil as well.

499
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 6: The UFC Light Heavyweight champion has done things in two

500
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: and a half years that most fighters can only dream of,

501
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 6: and he does this on the heels of a Hall

502
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 6: of Fame.

503
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 5: Career as a kickboxer.

504
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 6: He just got inducted right, defended I think his middleway

505
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 6: championship in Glory kickboxing five times, and now he defends

506
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 6: the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship successfully. My goodness, Kenny, I

507
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 6: truly don't know what else to say about this guy

508
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 6: other than he has maximized his utility, he has realized

509
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 6: financial freedom. Seemingly hardest worker in the room. It couldn't

510
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 6: happen to a better guy.

511
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: You could put him in a tuxedo and have one

512
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: of those, you know, long cigarettes, and you could put

513
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: him in some classy place and you look at out

514
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: Alex Pereira's face and you know that he enjoys hurting people.

515
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: He just has that look.

516
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: And you know, you go back to the press conference

517
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: with where Dana White is announcing that yes, in fact,

518
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: he will give everybody three hundred thousand dollars bonuses, and

519
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: every single person on that stage was cheering, was excited,

520
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: was animated. And then there was Alex Paeda with just

521
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: a stone old face look, no reaction whatsoever, probably still

522
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: thinking about punching Jamal Hill in the face.

523
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: And he's just different everything about him.

524
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: You know, the way that he thinks the way that

525
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: he approaches the game, way that he fights, the power

526
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: that he brings, the speed that he brings. The dude

527
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: is unusual. I mean, let's talk about the ending of

528
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: that fight. Please, gets kicked in the cup.

529
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Referee goes in to stop the ice. No no, no, no, no,

530
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: no no no. I got this, I got this, I

531
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Speaker 1: got this.

532
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: Just waves him off, walks forward, murders another dude with

533
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: a left hand. He drops, he finishes him, puts him

534
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: to sleep, and then goes like this with his hands

535
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: like he's presenting a Thanksgiving dinner like here it is.

536
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: It's on the table. Look what he did. Here's my creation.

537
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: This is what I do best in the world. Yeah,

538
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: the dude is unusual, just crazy, crazy power and structure.

539
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: The man is special, just like Holloway. And again this

540
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: is this was the cherry on top, right, I mean, unbelievable.

541
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: Jamal Hill is a very dangerous dude. But the horror

542
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: that Pereph brings he just took over.

543
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 5: And you know what else is crazy. Not for nothing else.

544
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 6: Since we're on the fucking DraftKings Network, that Alex Padata

545
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: minus won twenty five money line right when you looked

546
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 6: at all the factors, the active competition schedule, the lack

547
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 6: of a major injury, all the big time title fights

548
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 6: that Alex Paata competed in, and then just the different

549
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 6: nature of his life and career as a striker. Like

550
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 6: I think Jamal Hill, if his life has played out differently,

551
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 6: you know, could have.

552
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 5: Been a really high level shooting guard.

553
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 6: Not to sit here and suggest NBA, right, but you know,

554
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 6: there are a lot of factors in Alex Paada's favor

555
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 6: And when you look at that gesture at the end

556
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 6: of the fight, his inner monologue is like, is that

557
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 6: all you got?

558
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: Man?

559
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 6: You know, like as if to say, there are levels

560
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 6: to this game, Like this one thing that you want

561
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 6: to try to do. If you're Steve verseeg on May

562
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 6: fourth against alesch Andre Pantosia, lay some sort of foundation

563
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 6: for a rematch with Pantoji even if you don't win

564
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 6: the fight. And I'm not at all being suggestive of

565
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 6: Steve ver Sag not being able to win that fight, right,

566
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 6: but go to war with the guy, establish yourself as

567
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 6: an undeniable, bona fide flyway to lead, And I believe Jamal.

568
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: Hill is a light heavyweight to lead, right.

569
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 6: But Alex Panata be minus six hundred for the rematch

570
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 6: at this point in time, right, So it's going to

571
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 6: be a rebuild for Jamal Hill. And we didn't hit

572
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 6: on what's next for Justin Gaigee time permitting.

573
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 5: We will.

574
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 6: But dude, Alex pa Data is the real deal and

575
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: his game has been called simple, which is fine. But

576
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: you know, best of luck to the rest of the

577
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 6: light heavyweight division. We all love Maga man Anclive and

578
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 6: his game and his wrestling and his versatility. You know,

579
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: all the best against that Poeton cat.

580
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: No question about it, dude.

581
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: But like for anyone who's operating at a high level,

582
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: right like yourself, a broadcast ticket, anyone, no matter what

583
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: you're doing, it's always about the fundamentals and hard work

584
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: that you put into it. It's all the things that

585
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: people don't see. You're doing all the things that a

586
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: lot of other people don't want to do, throwing a

587
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: left hook a million times, an analyzing your structure, analyzing

588
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: your training, going back and doing the basics until you're

589
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: sick of the basics, and then doing it again, like

590
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: all those years of kickboxing and muy thai and boxing

591
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: and all like this, dude is unbelievable, and he knows

592
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: he has that weapon now and he's patient with it.

593
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: Like just the way he was walking in that cage,

594
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: you knew something violent was gonna happen and it was

595
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna be Pereira like doling it out, Like the way

596
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: that he was just walking Jamal Hill down.

597
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Like just his energy.

598
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: He just has that aura of an absolute juggernaut and

599
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: Hill just wasn't able to stop him. It was extremely

600
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: impressive and for Perira to do it in that spot,

601
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: he just made himself into an even bigger star.

602
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,240
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Speaker 6: I believe. November twenty twenty three. Now he has success

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Speaker 2: With a win?

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656
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Speaker 6: Right, I'm not sure the featherweight debut could have gone

657
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 6: a whole lot better. And there's a Calvin caters to this,

658
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 6: and certainly I think he looked a little bit listless

659
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: at times, but al Jamaine Sterling at one hundred and

660
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: forty five pounds, I think is a really intriguing addition

661
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 6: to this division.

662
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: He had to be absolutely thrilled.

663
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: I mean, the danger factor was almost non existent from

664
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 6: moment one. I've never seen I've never seen cater neutralize

665
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: like that.

666
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Hey, listen from my standpoint, when the danger is limited

667
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: like that, I'm always happy because you know, I worry

668
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: about my guys. Obviously I want to win. I want

669
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: him to perform well, but at the end of the day,

670
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: I want him to be healthy and you know, live

671
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: a great life. And Ben, what a way to shut

672
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: somebody down. I mean, there's the guy that's fought who

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Chikazi Arnold down and he gangs Max Holloway. I mean,

674
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: think of the guys he's fought, all right, I mean

675
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: all strikers. But then again, you know, and he always

676
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: had decent takedown defense. So I mean, I got to

677
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: give it up to al Jo Man. I thought he

678
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: did great. I don't think al Jo was happy with

679
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the performance. I have no fucking idea why if I

680
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: went through with her. I thought it was absolutely beautiful

681
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: and you know, look, he landed some. He landed on

682
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: his feet. You know, he did great on the ground.

683
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: He had great control. Uh you know, you know, maybe

684
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: coming off that last loss and moving up to forty five.

685
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: You know, look, he was uh I think he was.

686
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, he was feeling the nerves a little bit.

687
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: But it could have been the event, because I gotta

688
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: tell you I was feeling the nerves. I mean I

689
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: that event was by far the best event Kenny I

690
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: was ever at in my life, Like from the press

691
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: conference to the ceremonial way ins to just you know,

692
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: like I called the guy up to get on the bus,

693
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: like because they were picking al Joe up at the house.

694
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: So the guy goes, hey, he could go with three

695
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: thirty four thirty. I said, I'll probably go with four thirty.

696
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: And then I guess the show started. I hear Annik

697
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: and Rogan's voice and I I just get my shit on.

698
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: I go to the There was nobody even there. They

699
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: took me over by myself. Like I got to get there,

700
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: like I was starting to wig out, like and I

701
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: was chilling, like I'll go get something eat. Fuck that

702
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: I had to be in that fucking arena. I've never

703
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: felt like that before. I think they did a great job.

704
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Dana crushed, absolutely crushed the press conference. I mean not

705
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: like we know we couldn't do it, but he knows

706
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: how to control the crowd. He knows how to give

707
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: in when he has to give in, he knows when

708
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: to push back. I thought the guy was absolutely fantastic.

709
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: And the ambiance Kenny and that press conference when he

710
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: announced a three hundred thousand Mark Colman putting the belt

711
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: on was crazy. Was absolutely for me, like nothing, I

712
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: don't think anything gets to be Like I'm going over

713
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: to the press conference with Alja going, what a crack

714
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: of shit? Twenty five guys, twenty six guys on the thing,

715
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: who's going to nobody? What are we doing? And then

716
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: I get there and they line up all the champions

717
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: that were on the car, and I'm starting to go,

718
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: holy shit, ma, I'm just a la la lay and

719
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: this is this is huge. And then I started getting

720
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: like into it and I go from that moment on,

721
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: that whole event took on a different, uh different turn

722
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: for me a lot.

723
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: Because Ray's been going to UFC fight since nineteen forty five,

724
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: so I mean, that's that's.

725
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: That's it, and Kenny. That's a compliment, thank you, because

726
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: I think it was actually thirty nine.

727
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: But I Ray, but these are the things you can't

728
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: really know unless you're there, you're present, you're feeling of

729
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: your cloud, right.

730
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: It's I wasn't feeling it before that. That's all I'm

731
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: saying is he did such a great job that they

732
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: brought out that that emotion that you know, like again,

733
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: when you've been around for a long time, it just

734
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: becomes matter of factly. Yeah, I was really beautifully surprised.

735
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: What a what a what a great job.

736
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, this curmudgeony New Yorker who forgot to get his

737
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 6: haircut before UFC three hundred. I see him Thursday night

738
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: at the Virgin Hotel. Shout out to big Ron.

739
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 5: We're in the PEG run.

740
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 6: Thanks to Ray for coming by, you know, and making

741
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 6: the effort to come by with Chris Widman. But yeah,

742
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 6: I see this guy Thursday night, you know, and you

743
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: know his pants are wet because of the press conference.

744
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on here? You know?

745
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: I mean, this guy's.

746
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Usually no, no, I actually pissed up my pants.

747
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 6: But thanks, But no, that's great, and we probably should

748
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: have led with big picture of UFC three hundred stuff

749
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 6: with you, but it was great to see you. And

750
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 6: you know, this guy shows up at our appearance with

751
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 6: Cuervo as well. I mean, what a soldier you are,

752
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: you know, I mean.

753
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: You know, Wideman was there. I haven't talked to him

754
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: since the fight, so we got to see. I mean,

755
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I wish I could have

756
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: stayed for the Quervo thing. I really did. We had

757
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: the team dinner, but it looked like the ambiance was

758
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: great there too. It was great seeing Kenny getting his due,

759
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: getting his accolades that he will deserves exactly and I

760
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: love it. And John, You're always a big star with everybody.

761
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: But it was just great. Everybody's accessible to the people.

762
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: That's the type of people I like to be.

763
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Well before we potentially circle back to

764
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: al Joe one of two winning fighters to get booed

765
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: at UFC three hundred, and I'm just kidding, I got

766
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: a bit.

767
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: Listen, come on, he's not he's not.

768
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 5: That's a huge.

769
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's that's not a new thing for him

770
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: to of course not.

771
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 6: No, and he no, I did you know? I just

772
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 6: DC wondered aloud during one of these fights. Like, I

773
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 6: just don't understand how mixed martial arts as a sport.

774
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 6: You know, and we're not going to talk about this today,

775
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 6: but how does mixed martial arts get booed as a

776
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: sport when wrestling grappling is a part of it, Like

777
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 6: when the fight transitions to one part of the sport.

778
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 6: You know, it's just interesting, like to see if NBA

779
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: athletes got booed for making layups instead of three pointers

780
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: or something that.

781
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: It's just I think my biggest advice to John in

782
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: between whichever round it was, don't fucking listen to this crowd, man,

783
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: Do not let them become a factor in this guy

784
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: damn fight. You are doing unreal, unbelievable.

785
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he learned his lesson in that last fight against O'Malley.

786
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he really needed a pressure. I think

787
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: he was rushing himself and then you know, got caught

788
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: with that shopping the thing for me Ray, I think,

789
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: which I probably saw incorrectly. I saw an Aljamin sterling

790
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: that had way more pep in his step. He had

791
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: way more strength and was timing things really well. And

792
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: I think there were some question marks on my part

793
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: of going can his strength translate to one hundred and

794
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: forty five pounds and that was not a problem. I

795
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: didn't see that really being a problem at all. He's

796
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: that strong. And then as far as the energy that

797
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: he brought, this is a much better I think he

798
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: was probably showing maybe seventy five percent of what he

799
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: actually had in thirty five and obviously still doing extremely

800
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: well being a champion who defended the belt. But I

801
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: think we're gonna see a much better al Joe now

802
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: at one forty five. I think I think he at

803
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 3: least proved that and is on that right foot.

804
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Well now he knows what he can do up a

805
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: weight class.

806
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: And Kenny Calvin's a big dude.

807
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: He's a big, forty big one.

808
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: He's a big forty five man.

809
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: In the strength department.

810
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: Listen Al Joe's skill set and his set of attributes

811
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: if he ever decides to really use him, and he

812
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: you know, he knows how to fight within himself. But

813
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: you see, like those spin back kicks that Holloway was

814
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: landing on Gai Gee, He's gotta trust me on this.

815
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: He could do that blindfolded, like I see him do it.

816
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: And then you know, like and I'll always tell him.

817
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I'm the striking guy, so you know

818
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: I put my two cents in with that stuff. But

819
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: that's easy for him, easy, And he might tell you differently.

820
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that from watching what I and he's

821
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: got so many other tools that he hasn't really shown

822
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: yet that you know it's going to come a point

823
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: in time he's gonna let everything go completely. I think

824
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: on that end, the grappling, he's got down to a science.

825
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 6: Matchup that necessitates that he used those things at some

826
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: point in time, especially up ten pounds, right. Yeah, without certainly,

827
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 6: we've always known he's a flashy, decorated dynamic striker Bush.

828
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: It's one thing to do it, you know, in one

829
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: setting and another.

830
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: Guys, we're not talking about that.

831
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: We're live right now, we're not talking about want to

832
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 6: talk about Anthony to Lemmy right now? Or can I

833
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 6: get back from.

834
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's give a shout out to Anthony.

835
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 6: Let me great, No, I said, I said later, Yeah,

836
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: we're not doing that. You can do it real quick

837
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 6: right now. I get back to my.

838
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: You're not going to rush.

839
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: We'll go back to get to fucking later.

840
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: All right.

841
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 6: So, Charlie moynihan, one of my dear friends, longtime ESPN producer.

842
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 6: He's been producing for ESPN twenty five thirty years, if

843
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 6: not longer. I'm not trying to date the guy, but

844
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 6: I come up to do the post fight show with

845
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 6: Teddy Atlas and bread O Komodo, and Charlie says to me,

846
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 6: and this guy has covered it all, NBA Finals, Super

847
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 6: Bowl for years.

848
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: He goo.

849
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 5: After the Holloway thing, he says, that's the greatest thing

850
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 5: I've ever seen.

851
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 6: Right when you parlay all the factors, the BMF title fight,

852
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 6: the title, the fight itself, the knockout with one second

853
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 6: to go, the UFC three hundred angle, right, So whether

854
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 6: or not you believe this to be the greatest knockout

855
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 6: in UFC history alongside Anderson Silva Vitor Bell for Connor

856
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: McGregor versus Jose Aldo, Leon Edwards versus Kamara Ousman, right, Ray,

857
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 6: A lot of people are saying, as UFC fans combat

858
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: sports fans, this is the fucking greatest thing they have

859
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: ever seen. So I asked the pole question at Anna

860
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 6: Florian Pod, like, is this the greatest thing you've ever seen?

861
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: And yes, there will be some recency bias in there,

862
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 6: but I'm just saying, you know, seventy percent of you know,

863
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 6: five or ten thousand people believe that what we saw

864
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 6: Saturday night was the greatest fucking thing they've ever ever seen.

865
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: So where does it stack up for you?

866
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: It stecks up is probably the greatest thing I've ever seen.

867
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because the guys ahead in the fight.

868
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: He's got nothing to gain except getting knocked out by

869
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: a guy that has the ability to put you out

870
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: with one punch, and with ten seconds to go, he

871
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: plants his flag in the middle of the octagon. Let's

872
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: fucking go, and he knocks him out with two seconds

873
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: to go. That's some Hollywood shit that you wouldn't even

874
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: believe if they put in a movie. You go, yeah,

875
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: that that'll fucking happen. But halloway, this is why the guy. Look,

876
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: he didn't have to do that. This guy's a fucking fighter, man,

877
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: This is what the UFC wants. Who could blame him?

878
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: That was absolutely phenomenal against a guy that's considered an

879
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: absolute killer. Let's fucking go. He moved up in wait.

880
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Look at all the factors that make it the greatest knockout. Ever,

881
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: he's a forty five and moving up. Gaichie's an absolute assassin,

882
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: will put his body on the line for anything up

883
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: in the fight, nothing to gain except he has the

884
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: ability a chance to get knocked out, and look what

885
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: he does. Look with that, no risk, no reward, no guts,

886
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: no glory, whatever fucking saying you want. This is the guy.

887
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Holloway is the fucking man, and he's gonna remain a man.

888
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: And that just guaranteed him a title shot at to

889
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: PORI If I'm sure that that's that's I don't know

890
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: what else to say. Like all those other knockouts came

891
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: within the fight, same weight class, you know, not some

892
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: good company behind not but nothing like this where it

893
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: just it was the timing, the pacing, like anything else,

894
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: like a movie, like a stand up comedy. Said, His

895
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: pacing and the timing of everything was absolutely beautiful, and

896
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: he pulled it off. It would have been good if

897
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: not if he didn't knock him out, It still would

898
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: have been good, right, it would have been, but he

899
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: not knocked them flat face.

900
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: What may be more impressive than that knockout in the

901
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: last second of that round round five is the fact

902
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: that Holloway doesn't need a well wheelbarrow to carry around

903
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: his balls all day.

904
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean like that was that was.

905
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: Like it says, all right, I beat you as a fighter.

906
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: Technically I took you apart. Now let's see whose balls

907
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: are bigger. And then he just stood there and you know,

908
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 3: take me on his face with a knock, Kenny.

909
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't think a wheelbarrow is big enough for those boys. Yeah,

910
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: and again, one of the most personable, nicest guys you're

911
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: gonna meet, So really is how could you just put

912
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: everything together? How accessible he is, how compliment I mean

913
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: I saw him. I mean it feels like I know

914
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: the guy for a hundred years. I don't bare, I

915
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: really don't. I just love watching him fight. Just a

916
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: great dude. Man couldn't be happy for a guy. And

917
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: uh and Gate, she's always a warry. It's not taking

918
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: one ounce of anything away from him. It takes two

919
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: to hango and he's willing to put his his bulls

920
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: on the line. Toe, so give them both wheelbarrels.

921
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 6: So we've been going live for forty five minutes, and

922
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 6: I wonder aloud how we're gonna get to Diego Lopez

923
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 6: in the next seventy five minutes because there's so many

924
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 6: different things that we actually have to get to. And

925
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 6: Kayla Harrison, by the way, Ken Flow and Greg Jackson.

926
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: It was nice to see Greg Jackson there in h

927
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 6: Las Vega. I'm gonna start hanging out with older men

928
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 6: like Ray Longo and Kenny Florian and Greg Jackson, so

929
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 6: I'm not always the oldest man in the room. But

930
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 6: what great to see the wizard Kenny Greg Jackson. Did

931
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 6: you guys break bread or do you guys not want

932
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 6: that revealed? You guys fucking these dangerous men probably don't.

933
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we did. We got some dinner.

934
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: Always great to see Greg, uh, you know, awesome dude,

935
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: ton of experience. Obviously, it's always cool to kind of

936
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: pick his brain. And yeah, man, legend of the game

937
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: for sure.

938
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 5: How old is Craig Now Greg's his name? You call

939
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: him Craig.

940
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: Greg?

941
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: How old Greg Gregory? How old is Gregory?

942
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 5: I don't know you're calling him fuck and crack?

943
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: No, No, I had a good chat with winkle John.

944
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: I didn't know winkle John's sixty one. First, I'll give

945
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: you great yeah, yeah, I'll give you a good story

946
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: because I love it. What are you doing.

947
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: I'm wearing your Ray long shirt right now, John dot Com.

948
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 6: Sorry, I thought it was the enemy that we're wearing

949
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 6: your fucking face, wearing your fucking face to our.

950
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: All Anak and Florian ship the whole week because I'm

951
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: a team fucking player.

952
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 6: That's right, you Hey, I think you wear it because

953
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 6: it's comfortable. If I'm being honest, right, I mean, you know,

954
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 6: well beyond on.

955
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: This because I wear it to represent because all things. Uh, listen,

956
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking at first off, shout out to short Shelby.

957
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: I always like Buster. I love the guy. Now because

958
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: we're talking about something. He goes, well, we're the same age.

959
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: I go, really, I go how? I go? How old

960
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: are you? He goes fifty two? I go, wait a minute,

961
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: do you think I'm fifty two? And I tell him

962
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: I'm sixty five, going to be sixty six. He goes,

963
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: no fucking way. So I feel fucking great. Man. I

964
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: love hearing those compliments.

965
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: Well, dude, come on.

966
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 6: Big fucking go big ron as straight as an arrow.

967
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 6: But man, he was talking about the Ray Longo aesthetic

968
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: when you were thirty, as if like you were.

969
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 5: His dream man, and that type of scenario.

970
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 6: I mean, we all know at a point in time,

971
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 6: uh when ray Longo was uh was shredded up with

972
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 6: those blue eyes.

973
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 5: It was just like I mean, you know, you know,

974
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 5: women love and men want to be him all that stuff.

975
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know about shred it up with the blue eyes.

976
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 5: But no, you do you have age gracefully.

977
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 6: I mean black, don't crack, and you're white, but largely

978
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 6: for a Caucasian man, you've aged graceful. All right, So

979
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 6: there are so many directions in which we could go

980
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 6: there really are. Would you like to talk about Alex

981
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 6: Paeda for a minute.

982
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Let's go ben everything. There's a lot to talk about.

983
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: So I don't know that there's a comp for this guy.

984
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 6: We have marveled at Israel Adssanya and Connor McGregor and

985
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: how quickly they essentially laid out hall of fame resumes

986
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 6: in the UFC. But for this guy to make a

987
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 6: decision right to transition fully from kickboxing to MMA when

988
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: he did because he didn't like is he's sort of

989
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 6: talking about him, right, former alcoholic doing this really in

990
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: a lot of respects for respect, but for financial gain

991
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: to support his two boys. And he has in a

992
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: few years become one of the most sensational accomplished MMA

993
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: fighters of all time, Like, at least on paper.

994
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, first off, besides even what he's doing in

995
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: the octagon, unequivocally the best and most scariest walkout I've

996
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: ever seen in the last thirty years. I mean, who

997
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: cannot love that man? And I don't know if he

998
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: does it on purpose, but he plays the part. He

999
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: just has that blank look. This guy looks like, you know,

1000
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: they can announce him from parts unknown and you would

1001
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: believe it, you know what I mean? Like, I just

1002
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: the way he carries himself. That's a scary motherfucker. Man,

1003
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: that's a scary motherfucker. And he hits like a god

1004
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: damn freight train. Holy shit, he generates power I think

1005
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: is I think it's gotta be his. The way his

1006
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: arms are so long and the way he could generate

1007
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: power from a short distance is just absolutely phenomenal.

1008
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 6: So we asked a pole question, who would be next

1009
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: for Alex Padata Now? I said on the broadcast Kenny repeatedly.

1010
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 6: As he was getting his Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt

1011
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 6: for this knockout, he was looking at his left pinky

1012
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 6: toe seemed like maybe something was going on that was

1013
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 6: irritating him, and then I was told as the broadcast

1014
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 6: went on in my ear that maybe there was something

1015
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 6: with his foot. So it sounds to me like may

1016
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: fourth UFC three to Zho one that does already have

1017
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 6: a headliner and branding h would be ambitious for this guy.

1018
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 6: He's not gonna fight in defense of his light heavyweight

1019
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 6: title in a few weeks and cut all the weight

1020
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 6: against what would be a heavyweight fight. And I don't

1021
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 6: know that you're gonna rush tom Aspinall on Alex Padata

1022
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 6: for you three to Zho one. Maybe Podata positions himself

1023
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: for some heavyweight work this summer against tom Aspinall. But

1024
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 6: I asked the pole question and I'm not sure why

1025
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 6: Aspinall and un Calive are linked in those percentages, Cody,

1026
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 6: So if you could get me different results, But essentially

1027
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 6: the guys who could possibly be next for Alex Padata

1028
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 6: tom Aspinall for the interim heavyweight championship magamet An Calive

1029
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 6: would seem to be the guy at light heavyweight. Uri

1030
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 6: Prohaska had a huge result here Kencelo against Alexander Rockitic,

1031
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 6: but I gotta think at light heavyweight an Calive would

1032
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 6: have the inside lane over pro Hoska.

1033
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 5: Perhaps not.

1034
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 6: But Kenny, what do you think about as to what

1035
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 6: is next for uh, the multi optional Alex Podata.

1036
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: You know, if I'm out Alex Pereira, I would prefer

1037
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: to stay in my weight class, you know, especially the

1038
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: stylistic matchup against someone like Aspinall who could put him

1039
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: on his back and keep him there.

1040
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: With the size of the weight.

1041
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: Pereira is a big guy, no question about it, but

1042
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: Aspinall is both a tall and wide guy, and weight

1043
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: at the end of the they really does make a difference,

1044
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: especially in a lot of those grappling exchanges. Striking wise, Hey,

1045
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: he can knock out anybody all the way up the

1046
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: heavyweight I.

1047
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: Truly believe that.

1048
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: But I think at this stage of the game, I

1049
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: would like to see him against someone like an Akalive.

1050
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Let's see a new challenger out there.

1051
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: While Prohasca is always going to make it a very

1052
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: exciting fight, I didn't see anything in his game where

1053
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, he's dangerous, but I don't think he

1054
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: can prevent Pereira from knocking him out. Like as many

1055
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: times as he got hit against Rockage. I would say

1056
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: Pereira would need to throw one tenth of the amount

1057
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 3: of those strikes to put Prohaska back to sleep again.

1058
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: So I would like to see him against aklith Ray.

1059
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: Thirty eight percent of people said Tom aspinall is the

1060
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 6: guy they want to see next for Alex Podata. Thirty

1061
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 6: eight percent also said Maga ben an Caliath So fan

1062
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 6: opinion pretty split there eighteen percent you're a Prohaska six

1063
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: percent other. What would you do with Alex Padata? I

1064
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 6: mean you got to measure your goals against his. But

1065
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: what do you think they'll do?

1066
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: And what would you do? Uh?

1067
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: I think look the way his trajectory is. Wait before

1068
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: we even get that, talk about moments at UFC three hundred,

1069
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: because I'm thinking about Alex. Now, that guy gets kicked

1070
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: in the bulls and he's just, hey, they're only fuck,

1071
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: They're only bulls. Get the fuck away from me. I

1072
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: got something to do. Wait, you think I'm one of

1073
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: those pussies that gets kicked in the bulls. I'm gonna

1074
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: take five minutes, get the fuck and he goes in

1075
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: does this. I'll tell you these are moments, dude, that

1076
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: this event had some shit that's gonna live on forever.

1077
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: And I always want to give credit to that too,

1078
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: because I'm blown away by that didn't even look, didn't

1079
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: even turn his head, wouldn't take his eyes off his opponent,

1080
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: because that's not what guys like that do. Man, even

1081
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: when he backs up out of the stair down, he

1082
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: ain't turning around and running back to the corner. He's

1083
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: he's making eye contact as he's walking back. This guy

1084
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: is so fucking dialed in. I love it.

1085
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 5: Listen to this.

1086
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 6: Quote about it. I was starting to find my distance.

1087
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 6: I started using leg kicks from the beginning so I

1088
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 6: could find his distance. He's a south past, so it's

1089
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 6: a little harder my game plan to start throwing hands

1090
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 6: after that. So then he threw the groin shop, but

1091
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 6: it did not really hurt too much, so I chose

1092
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 6: to just keep pushing so I did not have to

1093
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 6: reset the distance. Capitalize on the moment, like fight IQ

1094
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 6: fighting a bunch of championship fights in a row against

1095
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 6: a guy who tore his achilles. I'm not trying to

1096
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 6: like lean too much into the achilles, right, but look

1097
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 6: at what Alex Padata is doing. Ladies, and gentlemen, you know,

1098
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 6: and think really seriously before you go bet against him

1099
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 6: in his next fight. Like he's he's all in right

1100
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 6: now in the middle of his fighting prome. He's getting

1101
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 6: better every fight.

1102
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to your point about what do you do

1103
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: with him? Look, if he wants to go to heavyweight,

1104
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: I think what he's been doing is absolutely phenomenal. Why

1105
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: not try to complete the hat trick?

1106
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: Man?

1107
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: Let him go up away cliss and do something big

1108
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: or at least give him the opportunity. I one hundred

1109
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: percent think he deserves it, and I think the crowd

1110
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: would want it. I think the fans you know, obviously

1111
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: are behind him. He's building this aura that's invincible, and

1112
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: give give him that doom, man, I see, go for it.

1113
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: You have really run with it, because now's the time

1114
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: to do it. It's not going to be there forever.

1115
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 6: You know, Kenny is a very covert operator, so we

1116
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 6: don't even know his inner circle necessarily.

1117
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: You know.

1118
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 6: The next thing, you know, he and Greg Jackson are

1119
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 6: you know, looking to make sure there's no imminent threat

1120
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 6: at the bar, and then we don't see kenflo again

1121
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 6: the rest of the week.

1122
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: You know. Wow, But in.

1123
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 6: Terms of surrounding yourself with good people and being some

1124
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 6: sort of byproduct of the people that you perpetually surround

1125
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 6: yourself with. Plenty o Cruz Glover to share a This

1126
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 6: Alex Padata corner and circle is really tight for Nelly, Felise,

1127
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 6: everybody else. And they did a really good job with him,

1128
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 6: and he might just be getting started here in terms

1129
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 6: started in terms of what he's gonna accomplish in the

1130
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 6: next four or five years.

1131
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 5: Ray, you want to go go ahead? Sorry, John.

1132
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: You could see the friendship there, right. You could see

1133
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: that they have a good time busting bulls. They like

1134
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: each other, not a big camp. They're coming at it Danbury, Connecticut.

1135
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't think there's another gym up there. I mean,

1136
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: come on, man, I mean it's like.

1137
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 6: You guys, you know, well, tight knit, you knowable, you know,

1138
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 6: no nonsense.

1139
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how tight knit we are anymore,

1140
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: but we were tight. But that's what I'm saying. I

1141
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: love that type of scenario where these guys are friends

1142
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: and you know, just nothing's coming before that, and they're

1143
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: fucking they're knocking it out of the park, They're knocking

1144
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: the cover off the ball, and you have to love it.

1145
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: I have to love it.

1146
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also think that from a from a

1147
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: promoter's perspective as far as Perira, Yeah, when you have

1148
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: a star like that, a guy who's doing so well

1149
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: in his division, I think you have to be careful

1150
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: to not push him into the headweight division and then

1151
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: maybe diminish that kind of luster potentially. You know, I

1152
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: think you kind of want to keep them, get the

1153
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: most out of them in that weight class, and then

1154
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: maybe do that later.

1155
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: Not to say he can't, but you got to start

1156
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: keep building that star. The dude. The dude's doing unbelievable.

1157
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I agree with that from a long

1158
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: term standpoint, but from running off the emotion and the

1159
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: momentum you have. Now, Look, the only way it's going

1160
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: to be a disaster is with the great right, Like

1161
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: you said, he could strike with anybody, So they could

1162
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: definitely pick a guy up there that could be talibayed

1163
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: for him to get a heavyweight wit And there's absolutely

1164
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: no question about that. But from a from a building standpoint,

1165
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent right. From a seizing the moment

1166
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: standpoint and cashing in on a big payday, I say,

1167
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: strike while the iron's hot, this is the time to go,

1168
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: and like again, it could backfire, but you know he

1169
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: wanted to take care of his two kids. That'll be

1170
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: well taken care. They'll be well taken care. So I

1171
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: don't never want to deny you guy of a payday.

1172
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 6: Kenny Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mizula shows up to

1173
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 6: the morning shoot around today wearing a Jhongwei.

1174
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 5: Lee T shirt.

1175
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: No way, Yeah that's crazy.

1176
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 6: Talk to me about Jeongwey Lee over Jan Shan on

1177
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 6: unanimous decision forty nine forty five times three. And let

1178
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 6: me just say, off the top, really tactical, fun fight.

1179
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 6: A lot of admiration for both corners, but particularly to

1180
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 6: Ryah Faber and Danny Castillo. They've done tremendous work. Marcus

1181
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 6: Reeves as well with Yan Shannan, and just loved watching

1182
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 6: them sort of coach her through a lot of the

1183
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 6: perilous moments of that fight.

1184
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: It experience matters, and Yan shown on.

1185
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: Every time I've seen her compete, she's looked better, and

1186
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: I thought she not only technically looked better, but we

1187
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: found out just how willing she is to go to

1188
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: those dark places.

1189
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1190
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: She is an absolute beast. You were not going to

1191
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 3: beat her unless she was one hundred percent of sleep,

1192
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 3: whether it was a knockout or a joke. We found

1193
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: out if she's just fifty percent of sleep or even

1194
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: eighty percent of sleep, she was going to find a

1195
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: way to get back to that stool, and she did

1196
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 3: just that. So toughness technique, you know, had the right tactics,

1197
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: just didn't have enough against Jean Wayee, who you know

1198
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: from an athleticism athleticism perspective, from a skills perspective, just

1199
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 3: had a little bit too much, particularly on the ground

1200
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: I think where she was getting caught up is Yan

1201
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: was able to time her because Joan Waeley was throwing

1202
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: like little to no feints at all, so you can

1203
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: at least see her coming in. And yes, she's fast,

1204
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: but Yan Hunan is also very fast and was capturing

1205
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: on the.

1206
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: Counter a few times. Was the longer, taller fighter, so

1207
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: she was kind of able to see her enter. She

1208
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: was landing the right shots.

1209
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 3: So for Jean Waylee, I'd like to see her faint

1210
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: a little bit more, but still her ability to get

1211
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 3: you on the floor and now look like a wrestler

1212
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: and look like a jiu jitsu fighter is really impressive.

1213
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: The strides that she has made from her first fight

1214
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: to where she's at now is really really impressive. But

1215
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was a very exciting fight, you know,

1216
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 3: coming off of what the Gaetchee and Holloway fight. After that,

1217
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, I don't know how much

1218
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: more I can handle.

1219
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: You know, this is a lot. And then these guys deliver,

1220
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: and then the fight after that delivered.

1221
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: So it was exhausting, not only because it was late

1222
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: at night, but just the amount of energy watching these

1223
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: guys go out, at the amount of skill that was

1224
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: being exchanged.

1225
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: Every fight just really delivered, and this was certainly one

1226
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: of them.

1227
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I was super, super repressed. And again it

1228
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: had it had the moments again where the girls basically

1229
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: choked out. Like again, that part was a weird scenario

1230
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: because she was basically out, so and I'm not I

1231
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: don't want to be a dip shit, but like it

1232
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: was like Morob and Ricky Simone, they overturned that that

1233
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: decision because of that, Morob survived the same same exact

1234
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: thing that girl was out. Right, the girl was out.

1235
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: Why why wasn't the fight over.

1236
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 6: She was actually more out than Morob And even though

1237
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 6: I thought Jason Herzog handle things beautifully. He I don't

1238
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: know if he's allowed to touch her, but nobody else can,

1239
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: you know. But man, she by the skin of her teeth,

1240
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 6: she was able to extend that fight.

1241
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: But you're right, but you know what I mean, and

1242
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: I and again, I'm gonna say that fight was closer

1243
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: than the score cards indicated because of the knockdowns, you

1244
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean. She did knock it down. She

1245
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: just got she just got hammered with the grappling exchanges

1246
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: and she couldn't get back to her feet. But that fight,

1247
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: because of those knockdowns, added a lot of intrigue, you know,

1248
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: just a great, great visual for anybody watching. So you

1249
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: had to score the fight for yeah, you know, Wayley,

1250
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: But that fight was really really close, and it could

1251
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: have turned at any second while that fight was standing up,

1252
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: and it almost did. So hats off to both corners.

1253
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: I thought they did a great job.

1254
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Rudy standing job.

1255
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: They thought he had a glove on when he stuck

1256
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: his finger up and those because that would been kind of.

1257
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 6: Well, it's actually right, yeah, right at the base of

1258
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 6: the in between the two nostrils, Hare opened up the passageway.

1259
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: No, he was knuckled deep, John, if you really look, okay,

1260
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: he took one for the team. Rudy's good man just pushed.

1261
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 5: Right under here as he came to the broadcast booth

1262
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 5: to tell us.

1263
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, well hey, as I was mentioning early though,

1264
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 6: you like, if you can't get the belt, you know,

1265
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 6: maybe you lay some sort of foundation for a rematch.

1266
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 6: Not to say that they're going to run that one

1267
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 6: back because of all the strawweight talent, right, Like, I

1268
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: think at some point, you know, Onrage, I think he's

1269
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 6: one a couple in a row, you know. Graciously, when

1270
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: Jessica and Drage was a champion for a couple cups

1271
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: of coffee, flew to China to fight Joan way Lee

1272
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: in her first title defense off of pay per view

1273
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: on UFC Fight Pass. So Andrage say what you want

1274
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 6: about how she stacks up to the other strawweight contenders.

1275
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: Right now, she deserves another shot against John way Lee, period.

1276
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: Don't at me.

1277
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 6: And by the way, right, my favorite word to hear

1278
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 6: you say in the English language by a significant.

1279
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 5: Margin is hamid handed. Oh it sounds so good.

1280
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: All right, So.

1281
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 6: Dustin Poorier is gonna fight Islamikashev for the undisputed UFC

1282
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: Lightweight Championship at UFC three zero two.

1283
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: I believe on June first, Newark, New Jersey.

1284
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, but Arman Sarwikian's next fight could

1285
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 6: likely be for the title.

1286
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: We'll lead with Kental on this.

1287
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: Where were you when you're watching Saraikian and Charles OLIVERA,

1288
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: you're back at the h You're back at the Red Rock.

1289
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: Where were you watching this fight?

1290
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: Ray? I'll tell you where I was. I was in

1291
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: the back and I didn't really watch it. I had

1292
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: order it when I got home and rewatch it last night,

1293
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: so I got to see it.

1294
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 5: But podcast will reimburse it.

1295
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: Yep, go on, I mean you think that's right. I

1296
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: got to come home and order the God damn.

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Speaker 6: I said, Podcast. I just said, we'll reimburse You're not.

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 6: You're going to complain about it. It's not on the

1299
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 6: back end, you just said. And you also said off

1300
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 6: the top of this Ray long go minute, you talked

1301
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 6: about this event, and you've a lot of data.

1302
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 5: You can't pay the fucking seventy guess A reimburshit, we

1303
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: got you.

1304
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: I tell you he's brutal today he's brutal, he's handy. Yeah,

1305
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: I get I'm getting hammed.

1306
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: I was trying to make another point with that. It's

1308
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: not the podcast is uh place?

1309
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 6: But that wait, so where what we can where we

1310
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 6: were talking about where you were for that fight. It

1311
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 6: sounds like maybe I should have asked Kenny, but go ahead.

1312
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to bite you up. And Ray Longo incidentally,

1313
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 6: very generous man. I'm not trying to you know, castis

1314
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 6: versions here that this is a frugal or chief gentleman

1315
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 6: not wanting to pay a generous guy.

1316
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: You should see what he sent my kids.

1317
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Nothing. Ever, Listen, you could you could try you could

1318
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: try passing that around. You're gonna come on deafy as

1319
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: because I'm a generous motherfucker. But anyway, listen. So I

1320
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: think I was in the back, so I saw bits

1321
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: and pieces of it. But when I got home I

1322
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: saw it. I thought, you know, I picked Serukian to win,

1323
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: and I thought he did. Uh yeah, I thought he

1324
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: did a great job of controlling. You know, Oliver always

1325
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: has trouble with the top pressure. He's still dangerous off

1326
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: his back, but he can't. You know, he's just not

1327
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: gonna win a fight like that. And uh man, but

1328
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: he had his look. Serrukian's tough man. That choke was.

1329
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to give it up to the

1330
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: guy survive first and then win, and that's what he

1331
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: fucking did and that was not easy to do. You

1332
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: could see was struggling Kenny, and I'm saying ninety nine

1333
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: percent of the guys would have tapped. He's not one

1334
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: of them. And he deserves to win that fight. And

1335
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a really I want to see that

1336
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: fight more than any other fight. I want to see

1337
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: Serukian against the Islam. That's the fight I want to

1338
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: see more than any other fight.

1339
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 5: Ken Flow, Charles Oliver Armon Saakian talk to me.

1340
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.

1341
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: I think that's why Seroukion was a favorite, and olivera

1342
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: again proved that offensively he is a problem. He's a

1343
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: nightmare because of all the tools that he brings offensively.

1344
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: But when he is uh you know, the nail and

1345
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: not the hammer, that's when he can that's when he

1346
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 3: can struggle a little bit. Defensively, he showed that vulnerability

1347
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: didn't take a whole lot of damage. But those short

1348
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: elbows from Serukion man, He's he's absolutely brutal there. And

1349
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: again I think a great measuring stick for that was

1350
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: his fight against Dabby Homos, an ADCC gold medalist, you know,

1351
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: as good as it gets when it comes to grappling,

1352
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: and he was dominant from that top position. He was

1353
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: not afraid to engage on the ground, something that a

1354
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: lot of people are afraid to do against Olivera, and

1355
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: did so after almost getting submitted off the guillotine by

1356
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: the way. But he really did a great job of

1357
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: being defensively sound when he needed to be. He was

1358
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: winning the rounds when he needed to battle back after

1359
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: losing round one, winning rounds two and three and doing

1360
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: it on the ground against Olivera. You know, and I

1361
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: think that vulnerability kind of revealed itself again here for

1362
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: Charles Olivera still going to be exciting. I still want

1363
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: to see him fight, yeah, you know, but he came

1364
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: up short because of those same things that he's been

1365
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: kind of showing in previous losses or even when he

1366
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: kind of comes back to win and we see him

1367
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: get dropped with something, but he's still really dangerous.

1368
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: I think I saw some improvements in his striking as well.

1369
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: So Olivera is still getting better, just defensively needs to

1370
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: be a little bit sharper. But sarrukion Man proved himself

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: to absolutely be worthy of fighting for a belt.

1372
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Speaker 2: In the near future. I think also Kenny, he's a

1373
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: guy that you got to put the sleep or you're

1374
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: not stopping like, he's not gonna quit, He's not gonna

1375
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: tap early. He's got to go out. Light's gotta be

1376
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: out completely. It was that guy's going to be a problem.

1377
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: He thought it was a great fight for him.

1378
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 6: Oh and it's really telling just to hear all the

1379
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 6: other pro fighters talk about our mon saer Kian and Kenny.

1380
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: By the way, some connective tissue for you and me.

1381
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 6: You harkened back to the fight between our Mont Sarkian

1382
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 6: and Dabby Hamosh. So I asked Arman and the fighter

1383
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 6: meeting any sort of comp from your past or maybe

1384
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 6: a fight that might you know, help you with.

1385
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 5: This one, and he mentioned Doabbi Hammar.

1386
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I mean that's going to be

1387
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: a confidence builder.

1388
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: And the other thing is you know in that fight,

1389
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: I would have loved to see five rounds, you know,

1390
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: because yeah, it wasn't absolutely clear who was going to

1391
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 3: win that fight if we went into rounds four and five.

1392
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: So uh, maybe we see that down the line at

1393
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: some point. But just an awesome fight, very technical.

1394
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: And John, that's pretty good hawking back. Would you watch

1395
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: Robin Hood before you got on the book? Is hawking back?

1396
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 6: Embarrassingly enough, I've drop that verb twice today. I regret

1397
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: doing that.

1398
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 5: It's become a little bit of a verbal crutch on

1399
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 5: this episode, you know.

1400
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: But a little bit you know, yeah, yeah, he yeah, he.

1401
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 6: All right, Sorry, I'm underslept. That was the most exhausting

1402
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 6: night of my professional career, which is neither here nor area.

1403
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: I get that man.

1404
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 6: So but Charles OLIVERA, I would just like to say,

1405
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: really quickly, I feel like I want to get it

1406
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: like a Charles Olivera tattoo. And I'm not sure if

1407
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 6: he's the most popular excuse me fighter in the world

1408
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 6: right now, but he's certainly in the top three.

1409
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 5: It's crazy to think that.

1410
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 6: Amanda noon As upon retirement, sort of said, I want

1411
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 6: some Brazilian to you know, take the throw now. And

1412
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 6: become a champion because at the time there were no

1413
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 6: Brazilian champions, right and Alex Padata and Charles Olivera two

1414
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 6: of the biggest three stars in the company right now essentially,

1415
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 6: and Aleschandre Pantosia has also won the belt as well.

1416
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 6: Mya Bueno Silva was not able to get that done, right,

1417
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 6: But it's just amazing what Charles Olivera has become. And

1418
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 6: even if the loudest ovations on this night were reserved

1419
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 6: for Alex Paday, that Charles Olivera has a relationship with

1420
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 6: this fan base that is on a level that you

1421
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 6: know people can only dream of.

1422
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 5: Can we get to bow Nickel?

1423
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: Ray?

1424
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 5: I got like seven more minutes? Where Ray Long go?

1425
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 5: What is the rest of your day?

1426
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: Hold?

1427
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 4: Ray?

1428
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just uh might thay, I cancel

1429
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: all my my private lessons. I'm going into workout and

1430
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: then I'll teach the the seven o'clock.

1431
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 6: Cliss Maybe in the future you don't even book those

1432
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 6: privates on a Monday following a pay per view when

1433
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 6: you're when you're crossing time zones on the way back, right,

1434
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 6: not want to inconvenience those people, You might as well

1435
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 6: just get ahead of.

1436
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 5: It and not book them, right, I could, but that's

1437
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 5: what I did.

1438
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: Thanks for Thanks, No, it's out for you some of

1439
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: those some of those people listen.

1440
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 6: So if you guys are listening, you just don't be

1441
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 6: expected to raise going to show up on those Mondays

1442
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 6: after a pay per view. Seems today he prioritized this

1443
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 6: show over the business. Ray, I could I just wait,

1444
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 6: I'm killing his business?

1445
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying?

1446
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: Kenny? All right?

1447
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 5: I mean we can take this offline. I feel like

1448
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 5: we've done some things to maybe help your business.

1449
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 6: You know, maybe the Chicken Pound can send me some

1450
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 6: fucking chicken before the end time.

1451
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: You know, wow, jeeze Chicken Pound getting a shout out?

1452
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, what else shout out? Oh yeah, let's get

1453
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 5: to bow Nickel, shall we?

1454
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

1455
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 6: Cody, maybe you can chase the quote as to what

1456
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 6: he said Dana White said to him after the fight.

1457
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 6: But Nickel comes over after the win over Cody Brundage.

1458
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 6: He was a little bit disappointed. I know he expects

1459
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 6: perfection and he did get hit with the right hand

1460
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 6: early in this fight. But the end comes at three

1461
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: thirty eight of round two by rear naked choke bon

1462
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 6: nickels six and zero realizes.

1463
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: A stool for the first time in his MMA career.

1464
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 5: Right longest profit coming in was two minutes and fifty

1465
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 5: four seconds. What'd you make a bow?

1466
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 6: Nickel methodically moving forward kicking off the pay per view

1467
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 6: Ray Longo, Well.

1468
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: A couple of things. First off, the guy got booed

1469
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: at the press conference for what reason. I have no

1470
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: fucking idea. Maybe they were made. He was on the

1471
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: main card, But I think more impressive than the fight

1472
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: for me was the way he handled the microphone and

1473
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: very articulate. Man, I got six goddamn fights. What do

1474
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: you want? Give me a chance to grow a little bit,

1475
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And guys like that can't

1476
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: get fights on the regional scene. Nobody will fight him.

1477
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: So he's got to do on the job, training in

1478
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: the biggest show in the world. And I think he's

1479
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: doing an absolutely great job. Do I get then? And again,

1480
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm biased and everybody could attack the shit out of me,

1481
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: But do I get the Chris Weidman vibe? When Widman

1482
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: was coming up, You know, he was going in there

1483
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: like you know, he was taking people out. You know,

1484
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 2: the law is you know, Moonyos was a good wrestler.

1485
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he did some stuff coming up, and he

1486
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: had no fights. He had five or six fights. How

1487
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: many fights did he have when he fought for the title.

1488
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: So I'm not getting that vibe because I think Widman

1489
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: had a different type of presence and he wanted everything

1490
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 2: as quick as possible. But what I love about bow

1491
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: Nichol is he's taken his time and I think it's

1492
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: really going to pay off him. He's super intelligent. I

1493
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: love the way he spoke. Obviously he's he's talented as

1494
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: a motherfucker, but I think he's got the right thing.

1495
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be pushed into anything big. Give

1496
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: him a chance to grow, because again, you can't get

1497
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: fights on the regional circuit. I'm there right promote fights.

1498
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: Nobody's fighting a guy like bow Nickel. And like I

1499
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: think he said, if you get the contract, just sign

1500
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 2: the goddamn contract because you know it is what it is,

1501
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: and let him have a couple of fights, build them

1502
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: up the right way, and I think you're going to

1503
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 2: see an outstanding champion. So he might have been disappointed

1504
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 2: with the performance, but I love the way he handled

1505
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: the mic. I think He's got a clear, clear vision

1506
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: of what he wants to do and how he wants

1507
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: to get there, and it sounds perfect to me. So

1508
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 2: Widman was a little different man. He wanted to know

1509
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, you know Widman. You know when John Jones

1510
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: somebody back there of that fight. I was on the plane,

1511
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: but when I got off, I had ten messages he

1512
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 2: wanted to fight John Jones. So he was He's just

1513
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: writing the mix from the beginning, you know what I mean.

1514
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: And it was a little different, and for Chris it

1515
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: worked out. But I think this guy's taking a more

1516
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: methodical approach.

1517
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: And I love it.

1518
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: I think it's the right thing to do.

1519
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's really valuable stuff there. From the the

1520
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 5: legend the wise Ray Longo.

1521
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 6: Kenny Bonnickel thought he would be ten or eleven and

1522
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 6: oh when he got to the UFC, but certainly hard

1523
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 6: to find fights. Twice he competed on Series No Contest. Yeah,

1524
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 6: you know, Kem Flow back in the day two in one,

1525
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 6: same thing. You know, who's gonna fight Camflow? Regionally, Kenny

1526
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 6: actually is like these local promotions like say no elbows,

1527
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 6: and Kenny's still fucking throwing elbows.

1528
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: So eventually I just.

1529
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 5: Got to get into the UFC, can't find anybody to

1530
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 5: fight locally.

1531
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: But Kenny, would you make of Hey?

1532
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: Kenny was and Kenny was fighting at two o five

1533
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 2: and he couldn't get fight?

1534
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,879
Speaker 5: Fucking crazy, unbelievable, Kenny, Uh, what'd you make of? Bonnickel?

1535
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: Well, listen, now, I can also relate to not having

1536
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: a whole lot of experience and then kind of being

1537
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: thrown into the fire. It's like, here you go, you're

1538
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: the UFC kid. You got four fights. Good luck, not easy,

1539
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, because you're ineverably going to make some mistakes. Now,

1540
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 3: if you're able to make some mistakes and still get

1541
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 3: the wins, these are great things. Didn't have a perfect performance,

1542
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: but it was still damn good and what the first

1543
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: time he ever had to go into round two. You're

1544
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: gonna learn a lot from that process. Not every fight

1545
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 3: is gonna be perfection. That's not the way real combat goes.

1546
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna have some adversity, You're gonna make mistakes. How

1547
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: you react to those mistakes that's when we find out

1548
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 3: who you are. And you know, still you can argue

1549
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 3: he hasn't experienced a whole lot of adversity we haven't

1550
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: seen him in rounds three, four or five. We haven't

1551
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: seen him when he's hurt. We haven't seen him when

1552
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: he's tired. We will still find those things out. You

1553
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: can't buy experience, and he's gonna be learning as he

1554
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: goes and during these fights. But still, I thought it

1555
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 3: was a really solid performance for me. I think he

1556
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: wasn't really able to manage the energy of the fight

1557
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. He kind of was just engaging whenever

1558
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: Brundage wanted to engage, and I think it'd be probably

1559
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: one of those fights where it seems like it was

1560
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: really being played very like almost a fast forward during

1561
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: the fight. I want to see Bo out there being

1562
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: able to kind of lead the dance go when he wants,

1563
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: defuse pressure when he wants, as opposed to kind of

1564
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: just be in this mad scramble. So I think that's

1565
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 3: probably more of what I would criticize. But I mean,

1566
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: come on, I'm still kind of being very picky here.

1567
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 3: Bo Nickel is also special and I expect him to

1568
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 3: be a champion of the future as well.

1569
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 5: Yes, there was a lot of pressure on bon Nickel.

1570
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 6: We asked last week, is there more pressure on him

1571
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 6: or Kayla Harrison or Jongwai Lee, and a lot of

1572
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 6: that pressure was just rooted in kicking off the pay

1573
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 6: per view, and Dana White came over to provide some

1574
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 6: reassurance and just said, if you keep doing what you're doing,

1575
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 6: you're going to be a big star. I just think

1576
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 6: some of Bo's disappointment was not only his own perfection,

1577
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 6: but kicking off the biggest show in UFC history, and

1578
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 6: all those big favorites Kayla Harrison, Bonnickel, Jongwey Lee were

1579
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 6: able to hold serve as the favorite.

1580
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 5: Ray I'm supposed to let you go right now? So

1581
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 5: all right, So I mean do I go to Lemmi

1582
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 5: or pro Hoska for first.

1583
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Of Let's talk about Kayla Harrison because I had the

1584
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: opportunity of the.

1585
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 5: Meet her about neither.

1586
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely love her. This is a great soul of

1587
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: a person. I think she stands for the right stuff.

1588
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: What a what a performance she had, handles the mic beautifully,

1589
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: give it a title shot. I believe she beat Roquel

1590
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 2: penalty and she deserves it. I think she represents you know,

1591
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: women's mma beautifully. And like again, I just you know,

1592
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: for meeting her for the first time, she just felt

1593
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 2: like a like an East Coast ball busted mentality. I

1594
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: love her and I think she deserves the shot. That's

1595
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: the call, give it and give it a title shot

1596
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: next She's she's ready for it. She's a professional when

1597
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: you talk to her. Oh yeah, you know what I mean,

1598
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: Like on every level, she's exactly what you want in

1599
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: a fighter and a person and everything. So hats off

1600
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: to Kayla Harrison on a great UFC debut. And I

1601
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: think Kenny had mentioned something before where she wasn't put

1602
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: on the there were so many fights she kind of

1603
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: wasn't the main traction, which takes a lot of pressure

1604
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: off you, Kenny. I think that's a really good point,

1605
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: whether it was the balled her or not, because she's

1606
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: got such great experience. Who knows, but those Octagon jit

1607
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: is with the UFC and you're at that press conference.

1608
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everybody's human. I mean it could it could

1609
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 2: really affect you. But she seemed to be totally unaffected.

1610
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: She's dialed in and she deserves that shot them one

1611
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: hundred percent behind a always be a big fan of

1612
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: hers moving forward. I think she's she's unbelievable.

1613
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, she'll be a five to one favor probably to

1614
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 6: beat my friend Raquel Pennington.

1615
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,480
Speaker 2: If they fight anybuddy.

1616
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they're all my friends. I mean, I just

1617
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 6: got to know Kayla, but I like her as well.

1618
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 6: But yeah, Richall and I are close and U. I

1619
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 6: remember being with her after one of her two losses

1620
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 6: to Holly Holm and uh just tremendously frustrating. And then

1621
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 6: she reeled off you know, five or six in a

1622
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 6: row to become the world champion thereafter. So but Laura Sanko,

1623
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 6: my great colleague and friend, said that she feels like

1624
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 6: Kayla Harrison to the UFC is exactly what women's MMA

1625
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 6: needs right now.

1626
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 5: And I go out of I think Kayla just just

1627
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 5: to the table.

1628
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 6: And if anybody can speak Kenny to uh to you

1629
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 6: know what she has accomplished professionally and dealt with personally,

1630
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 6: it's you right, saving her family and adopting these two

1631
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 6: beautiful children and raising them on her own. Just a

1632
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 6: tremendous ambassador for MMA in the UFC. And she's got

1633
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 6: a little edge to her as well.

1634
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1635
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 5: She moved to Boston when she was sixteen.

1636
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if we can claim her as a

1637
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 6: Massachusetts natives, as you know, like first, you know Massachusetts fighter, right,

1638
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 6: Like when we talk about ken fl Will being the

1639
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 6: best fighter at in Massachusetts, we're not gonna like put

1640
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 6: Kayla in that class, are we, Kenvil.

1641
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: That's a good thing because she would be the better

1642
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 3: fighter out of pout Jesus, you know, listen, I think

1643
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: that she went out there and did Kayla Harrison things.

1644
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what she does best.

1645
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 3: She gets a hold of you, she throws you on

1646
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: the ground with something spectacular.

1647
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: And then she beats you up.

1648
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 3: And we have to remind people that how many people

1649
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: go out and fight Holly Holme and actually look good.

1650
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of people.

1651
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: Holly has a knack for making you look bad, even

1652
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 3: in wins, even if you beat her. It's not one

1653
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 3: of these things where you can dominate someone like Holly Holme.

1654
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: Rarely does that happen. And with all that experience, with

1655
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: all that athleticism and size and striking ability, you know

1656
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 3: she's going to be a tough matchup for anybody. And

1657
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 3: this was pretty flawless from Kayla Harrison. Aside from that

1658
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: takedown where Holly was able to get on top, Holly

1659
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 3: still didn't take advantage of that position.

1660
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: It was.

1661
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: Kayla kept her composure, got right back to her feet,

1662
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: went right back to work, got the takedown, took over nasty, nasty,

1663
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: grounded pound. I mean, she was strong all the way

1664
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 3: at one hundred and fifty five pounds, one hundred and

1665
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: forty five pounds. I can't even imagine what it's like

1666
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: to lock up with Kayla Harrison at one hundred and

1667
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 3: thirty five pounds.

1668
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: Just the fact that she was.

1669
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 3: Able to do that. She was on point from the

1670
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: get go. I was seeing her so slowly lose that weight,

1671
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 3: cut down. Everything's perfect. The UFC really.

1672
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: Has a star in Kayla Harrison, Like you just saw

1673
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: it coming.

1674
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 3: When I was hearing it she was maybe gonna go

1675
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 3: over to the UFC, I was like, this is probably

1676
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: one of the best things they could do for women's MMA.

1677
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: She is going to be huge. She's going to be massive.

1678
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: People still don't know the full story behind her and

1679
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: what she's accomplished. As that story comes out more and more,

1680
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 3: I think she's going to resonate that much more with

1681
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: the fans.

1682
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: But she's got the skills to back it up. She's

1683
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: got the pedigree, she's got the story, and she showed

1684
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: the whole world that she has the skills to back

1685
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: it up as well. Not a whole lot of people

1686
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: can go out there and make Holly Holm look like that.

1687
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: And the unknown John was can she make the thirty five?

1688
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: She's she's jacked that girl. So she made the weight.

1689
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 2: I was on the bus with her. I think after

1690
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: before whatever, she never waved in her personality. You know,

1691
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: some people don't want to look at you, they want

1692
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: to talk to you. She was upbeat every aspect of

1693
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 2: that whole thing. So again, hats off to hats off

1694
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: to a tea. She's got a great corner Steve Marco Anderson.

1695
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: Mike Brown's obviously great her strength and conditioning coach. I

1696
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: can't think of his name, but I know he consulted

1697
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: my great friend Tony Ricci was a part of that

1698
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: and helping her make the weight. And Tony had nothing

1699
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,480
Speaker 2: but beautiful things to say about her. So she's surrounded

1700
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 2: by the right people. She's in the right spot. Like

1701
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: you say, she's got the backstory, she lives it, she

1702
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: speaks it, and she's you know you just when you

1703
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: talk to you. You know, there's something special about this girl.

1704
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 2: There really is She's just a I just say it,

1705
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: like a beautiful soul. That's what I see. And I

1706
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: don't think I'm mistaken, Like I don't think she's pulling

1707
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: the wool over anybody's eyes. She's a really sweetheart, this girl,

1708
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: and I just wish her nothing but the best.

1709
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 6: She was on my flight back to Miami. Took up

1710
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 6: a lot of that overhead space, did Kayla Harrison.

1711
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that, all right.

1712
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 6: So I thought on this night, it was a particularly

1713
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 6: outstanding night for my broadcast partners Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier,

1714
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 6: And if you could only see walk into the dressing

1715
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 6: room just jumping out of his skin with enthusiasm and excitement.

1716
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 6: And we were talking about the depth of the card,

1717
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 6: and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but

1718
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 6: we mentioned Diego Lopez versus Sadik Yusef, and Joe said

1719
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 6: he thinks Diego Lopez is gonna be a world champion.

1720
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 6: And then Diego Lopez promptly goes out there can flow

1721
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 6: in a minute in twenty nine seconds and disposes of

1722
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 6: super Sadik Yusef in a way we have never seen before.

1723
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 6: Like I'm not sure where the credit's supposed to be

1724
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 6: dispersed in terms of like a fucking shy pie chart, right,

1725
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 6: But like Francisco Grosso man, like what this dude is

1726
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 6: developing is unbelievable, Ken Flow, Diego Lopez man, like this

1727
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 6: is a BJJ coach, just a five tool player. I

1728
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if this guy's in a championship setting

1729
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 6: in a win or two.

1730
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 5: Man, what a what a rise to start a man?

1731
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1732
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: Well, this was one of those fights, right, Like every

1733
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: fight you're trying to prove something.

1734
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: But this was one of those fights for me where

1735
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: I go, Okay, we're gonna find out if he's got

1736
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: to be a title contender, if he's able to beat

1737
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 3: Yusef just to get a decision, when would be impressed

1738
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: and to say, hey he's here, people need to watch out.

1739
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: You know, not only did we get that answer, but

1740
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: I think we got the answer that he's now calm

1741
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: inside the octagon. He knows how to manage the energy

1742
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 3: of a fight. As opposed to say Bo Nickel. He

1743
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: went out there was able to take a lot of

1744
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 3: what Usef does well away from him.

1745
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: He got into that boxing range.

1746
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: He showed that he shows he could throw the shorter,

1747
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 3: harder punches in tight and he never let Yusef get started.

1748
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: That's what you do against a guy who comes with

1749
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: a very methodical game and likes to plan and strategize

1750
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: from the outside and take his time. Lopez never let

1751
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 3: him even get into that role. It was really cool

1752
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: to watch. And for me, you know, this was one

1753
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 3: of the ones that I got wrong. I'm not surprised

1754
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 3: by the result, but the way that he did it

1755
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 3: and as quickly as he did it was surprising. Lopez

1756
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: is the real deal. This is a guy that is

1757
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: a few future title contender, no question about that.

1758
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Lopez has the X factor. Yeah,

1759
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 2: and you know what that factor is. What's that his

1760
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: fucking haircut? Because I guarantee you you cut that fucking

1761
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: hair if this guy can't win a fight, this this

1762
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: is Sampson. I'll tell you that haircut is what does it.

1763
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: But no, what a great kid surrounded by great people.

1764
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: We saw him at the well, we were all taking

1765
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: the photos at the end. Great kid again, Grosso Francisco Grasso.

1766
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely great job. But what he's doing over there all

1767
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: all sweethet people and that kid that kid's come with

1768
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: the fight, man. Even his call out of the other guy,

1769
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: who the hell wants to fight that guy? Now, it's

1770
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: never like an exciting fight. Give me ship, That's what's true.

1771
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: He's a good calling out mob.

1772
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 6: Sorry, I almost finished him four times in their fight

1773
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 6: that he took on five days notice. But dude, you're right,

1774
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 6: Ray like calling for him again, like you know.

1775
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: And as far as the Beau Nickel comparison, you know,

1776
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: Diego's got five times the amount of fight exactly. I mean,

1777
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: he should be able to manage the crowd and the

1778
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: energy at this point, Bo Nicol, That's again what I

1779
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: love about what he was saying, give me some time.

1780
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean, geez, I just got here. What do you

1781
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: you know? What are you busting my bulls?

1782
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 5: The Diego Lopez story is crazy, right.

1783
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 6: He competed on the Contender series, I believe lost and

1784
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 6: then went and lost his next fight, and then obviously

1785
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 6: it was hard for him to find fights at times.

1786
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 5: But man, like, he went into this weekend not even ranks,

1787
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 5: so he's gonna be ranked right now.

1788
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 6: You better hope he doesn't come for your guy, Al

1789
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 6: Jamain Sterling, you know, But no, Lopez is gonna be

1790
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 6: a star.

1791
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 5: I'd like to see him get a fucking main event.

1792
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 6: I know he only made his UFC debut like a

1793
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 6: year ago, but he's a bona fide featherweight contender. Selfishly,

1794
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 6: I just want him to have a main event because

1795
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,839
Speaker 6: I know it's going to end in round one instead

1796
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 6: of you know, round five at the end of the night.

1797
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 6: Little extra recreational time with the Ray long goes.

1798
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: Of the world.

1799
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1800
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, I like what your headsaid. All right,

1801
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: let's touch on the Lemmy for a minute before I forget.

1802
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: Please Anthony de Lemmi six or Ozho. Great victory at

1803
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: the CFFC. Look of this kid on the Contended series

1804
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: this summer is a really nice kid, great family. Let's

1805
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: fucking do it. But hats off the dilemma. We all

1806
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: watched the fight during Al Joe's ceremonial dinner, uh the

1807
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: night before the fight, and everybody was ecstatic, so good energy.

1808
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 6: And Ray Longo just managing obligations as usual, right, Team Dinable.

1809
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 5: You wasn't the fight in Vegas or No?

1810
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: No, that fight was in uh the Hard Rock at

1811
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: uh in Jolantic City.

1812
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 5: All right, man?

1813
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 6: Well, uh, you know have a great day in a

1814
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 6: better evening. We we appreciate your extended time. Uh we will,

1815
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 6: uh we will start a GoFundMe for your paper views.

1816
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: You want me to put the rolicks up there again?

1817
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: Is that what you want to do? That fuck rolling

1818
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: up there? It was great to finally get to see

1819
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: you guys out in Vegas. I'm glad we got to

1820
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: get even though it was only short. Kenny always always

1821
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: great to catch up with you.

1822
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: And that's like again, I was.

1823
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: Glad to see lines of people want to take pictures

1824
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: with you guys. Yeah, you guys give back. I mean,

1825
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. Now, what do we have

1826
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: this platform for to be selfish? You want to be

1827
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: a selfish a little bit? Let me give back.

1828
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Speaker 5: That's the goal, buddy.

1829
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 6: And we actually were contemplating on Sunday trying to figure

1830
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 6: out a way to sort of fight through the fatigue

1831
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 6: and get out get something out there, because I know

1832
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Speaker 6: people were looking for some content on the day after

1833
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Speaker 6: you have see three hundred.

1834
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Speaker 5: But we're here live on a Monday.

1835
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 6: We're gonna let you go, so uh, you know, go

1836
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 6: sweat it out and uh we will talk to you

1837
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 6: in about a week But congratulations to you and al

1838
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 6: Jamain Sterlam just having a little bit of fun at

1839
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 6: your guys' expense. You know, rumblings in Massachusetts, the cater

1840
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 6: through the fight, but you know you guys can celebrate.

1841
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, thank you guys, thanks for everything. It was

1842
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: a great weekend. Shout out to old a minute man.

1843
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean the love I got in Vegas this time

1844
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: I haven't experienced in a long time. So I think

1845
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: the crowd, the fans, everybody was on point. It just,

1846
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: you know, the world's collided. Whatever that's saying is where

1847
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,560
Speaker 2: everything meets at the right point. I think it was

1848
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: just a phenomenal weekend and you guys are the best. Thanks.

1849
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 2: I'm mad he here.

1850
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 5: There he is, You're the man. We love you. Great

1851
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 5: to see you see these old guys like Ken Flow

1852
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 5: and Ray Longo reconnect. Yeah I'm just getting got Kevin

1853
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 5: Flow's age, but.

1854
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 6: He just loves seeing you and you guys just obviously

1855
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 6: go way back and uh yeah, it's it's always cool

1856
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 6: when we can get everybody together. So thanks to the

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Speaker 6: Virgin Hotel, Thanks to Big Ron Pellegrino. Great to have

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Speaker 6: our producer Cody Merrow out there. Jason Annik, the president

1859
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Speaker 6: of the Diego Lopez fan club. Diego Lopez is insane, right,

1860
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Speaker 6: and an even better human being like Francisco Grossow, Alexa Grosso,

1861
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 6: Diego Lopez, Alessandro Costa. These are elite human beings and

1862
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 6: to see them realize the success is what life is

1863
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Speaker 6: uh is all about?

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1897
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Speaker 6: Real quickly, Kenny, I'm gonna try to be efficient on

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1899
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,760
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Speaker 6: Connor McGregor, Michael Chandler and potentially even islamikashev against Dustin Pourier,

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 6: both of which were announced over the weekend. Also Sean

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Speaker 6: Strickland Palo Costa. So al Jamaine Sterling we talked about

1903
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 6: his performance. I just wanted to get your quick thoughts

1904
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 6: on Calvin Cater because I don't know that there's much

1905
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 6: fight left in this dog. I mean, he has, you know,

1906
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 6: been through it to get to it. He has often

1907
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 6: talked about the journey being the destination. He has realized

1908
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 6: a lot of success as a promoter. This was a

1909
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 6: challenging matchup, but you know, he was completely neutralized. And

1910
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 6: not to suggest that that wasn't.

1911
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Speaker 5: All al Jo's doing, but I don't know.

1912
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 6: I felt bad for Kal on this night, a huge

1913
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 6: showcase for the sport. And you know, for whatever reason,

1914
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 6: you know, Tyson Chardier, our friend, couldn't get him going.

1915
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Speaker 5: You're on mute love you though, gosh.

1916
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like, you know, there there was an

1917
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 3: issue with his ability to get his striking going. And

1918
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: I think it was kind of twofold. It was the

1919
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 3: unorthodox approach from Al Jermaine Sterling, and also I think

1920
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: it was the threat of the takedowns. It seemed to

1921
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 3: freeze up his striking, and I don't know in some

1922
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: of those exchanges, like when he was up against the cage,

1923
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: you like to see a certain level of composure, but

1924
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: you also want to see a certain level of competitiveness,

1925
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,799
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure there was that sense of urgency

1926
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: out of Cater that you you'd see in other fights

1927
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 3: like and.

1928
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Perhaps that was maybe his lack of willingness to fight.

1929
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to go that far.

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Speaker 3: I don't know him well enough, but seemed like in

1931
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: other fights he's had that energy and it just wasn't

1932
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: there against Ali Joe. Now, certainly Aljo's doing a great

1933
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 3: job of controlling them, especially up against the cage, on

1934
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 3: the floor all that stuff, but I don't know. It

1935
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: definitely lacked a sense of urgency I think that you

1936
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: normally see from Calvucato.

1937
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 6: And not so Moikano over Jalen Turner by TKO the

1938
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 6: in comes at four eleven of round two. Not sure

1939
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 6: if Jalen Turner was chasing a potential three hundred thousand

1940
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 6: dollars bonus, which he might have had a better chance

1941
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 6: to attain with a walkoff style KO. But the next thing,

1942
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 6: you know, he was on the wrong side of it,

1943
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 6: and Moikana is the guy who deserves a lot of credit.

1944
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 5: Kenny.

1945
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 6: I love watching him grapple and get the fight where

1946
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 6: he wants to get it. And obviously he was able

1947
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 6: to take Jalen Turner out from there. What do you

1948
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 6: make of Moykano rallying, you know, for a victory here

1949
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 6: in a huge spot of lightweight.

1950
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, Turner's inexperience is maybe his mental competitive competitive

1951
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: awareness may have lost him this fight.

1952
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 3: He had mo Kano hurt at a certain point, and

1953
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, you were talking about me following up. You know,

1954
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: maybe if the person's hurt, I don't do that necessarily

1955
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: to be mean, but I do it to make sure

1956
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 3: I get the result that I want. If you hesitate

1957
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 3: during a fight, then man, you could be in trouble.

1958
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 3: That one second window, which may even be smaller in

1959
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts, can be taken away from you if

1960
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 3: you're not applying the pressure on These are the toughest

1961
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 3: individuals in the world. You have to if you see

1962
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 3: a spot, you got to take him out. And Jalen

1963
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 3: Turner allowed Moikano back into this fight because maybe he

1964
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: felt that the referee should step in there.

1965
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: You're not a referee, You're a fighter. You fight.

1966
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 3: You don't let the referee go in there and try

1967
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 3: to dictate what happens. You have to follow up and

1968
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: try to take that guy out. And when someone is

1969
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 3: very tough like Moikano and dangerous and knows how to

1970
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 3: time his takedowns, he was able to battle back.

1971
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: He put Turner on his back.

1972
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 3: He cooked him in round one and in the second

1973
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: round was able to really take advantage. Turner was pretty

1974
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 3: much exhausted, didn't know what to do, was overwhelmed. He

1975
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 3: found that opportunity to take him out with ground and pound,

1976
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: and he did just that. Jalen Turner has a lot

1977
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 3: of talent, but you have to be better with the

1978
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: decisions that you make in the UFC.

1979
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Those things matter.

1980
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 6: And on a night on which both Uri pro Hoska

1981
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 6: and Max Holloway asked for an appearance on The Joe

1982
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 6: Rogan Experience, I thought it was great to see hit

1983
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 6: out to Moykano say that Joe Rogan was going to

1984
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 6: be his podcast guest today. So hopefully that comes to fruition.

1985
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 6: But it's going to be interesting to see what they

1986
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 6: do with Moikano because there's just an undeniable electricity about him.

1987
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 6: I'm not sure I've ever enjoyed seeing a Brazilian speak

1988
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 6: English and work a microphone. And this guy, Kenny, he

1989
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 6: really I don't know. He has multiple lines every post

1990
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 6: fight interview that really resonate.

1991
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 3: I can tell you he's extremely popular with the bitcoin community.

1992
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,919
Speaker 3: Right now, I'll tell you that, you know, mentioning Austrian

1993
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: economics and mesas and all these things and property.

1994
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,799
Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, just that whole community.

1995
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 3: They have a favorite fighter in Moikano, and there's a

1996
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 3: lot of bitcointers out there. They were just they couldn't

1997
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 3: believe what they were hearing in the post fight interview.

1998
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 3: But you know, when you have a guy who has

1999
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: really changed the way he approaches the fight. You heard

2000
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: him that I cannot afford to lose. It means that

2001
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fight really smart.

2002
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Now.

2003
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to be exciting when I can, but I'm

2004
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: gonna fight smart, get the wins that I need so

2005
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 3: I can elevate my career and maybe fight for the

2006
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 3: title at one point. But more than anything else, he's

2007
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: trying to make as much money as possible. That nickname

2008
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 3: is there for a reason. He's doing all the right things,

2009
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: and he beat a really tough and talented guy at

2010
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 3: Jalen Turner.

2011
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 5: What did you make of Bobby Green against Jim Miller.

2012
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 6: Jim Miller suggested that maybe Bobby Green has a style

2013
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 6: that doesn't age. Well, I don't know that Bobby Green

2014
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 6: has lost much of a step at all. And when

2015
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 6: you look at some of the challenges Kenny that he

2016
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 6: has taken on over the last several years, whether it's

2017
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 6: Islama Kashev short notice or Grant Dawson when he was

2018
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 6: undefeated in the main event, just wicked impressed with the

2019
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 6: career evolution for Bobby Green, the sustainability right and now

2020
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 6: realizing financial success at this state of his career and

2021
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 6: you know, taking care of business like that and battering

2022
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 6: Jim Miller thirty twenty five on one of the cards

2023
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 6: like it's a huge fucking win for the King.

2024
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think he has a lot of gratitude, you know,

2025
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 3: for where he's at at this point in his career,

2026
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 3: the fact that he is able to make a lot

2027
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 3: of money now fighting in the UFC, being on these

2028
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 3: huge cards, and you know, he's kind of fighting without

2029
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,839
Speaker 3: this pressure. He's just kind of enjoying himself. He's enjoying

2030
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 3: the fights. He's enjoying the fact that he gets to

2031
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 3: entertain people with what he does best. And I thought

2032
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 3: this was an excellent performance from him. You know, he

2033
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 3: had Jim Miller hurt many times during that fight. I

2034
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 3: think it's almost seemed like Jim Miller kind of ran

2035
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 3: out of his bag of tricks after round one and

2036
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Bobby Green understood what the assignment was after that and

2037
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 3: then really kind of una hell on Jim Miller. The

2038
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 3: body kicks down the middle the proper range. It never

2039
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 3: allowed Jim Miller to really do what he does best,

2040
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: which is get to the clinch and hit those takedowns.

2041
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 3: Bobby Green was keeping him on the outside, was able

2042
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 3: to see the takedowns coming, was able to stop the

2043
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: takedowns and.

2044
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: Beat up and battered Jim Miller. You know, something impressive.

2045
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: All right, So.

2046
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 6: Last fight I want to touch on, and then I

2047
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 6: just want to talk some big picture UFC three hundred stuff.

2048
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 6: We'll get to Connor and Chandler and then we'll let

2049
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 6: you get back to childcare or whatever it.

2050
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: Is you do with the rest of your day.

2051
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 6: So Davison Figuretto beats Cody Garbramp by rear naked choke.

2052
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 6: I guess I'm just curious, like where you see Davison

2053
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 6: in this one hundred and thirty five pound division in

2054
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 6: which they're all chasing Sean O'Malley, because that sounds like

2055
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 6: a fun competitive fight, even though Davison's got to need

2056
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 6: a couple more wins. Like, what are your thoughts on

2057
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 6: on Figuretto as a potential future two division champion, having

2058
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 6: twice already won the flyweight bell and now a sen

2059
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 6: at thirty five Rob Font now Cody Garbrant in the

2060
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 6: rearview mirror.

2061
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think his position is secure as someone you

2062
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 3: want to watch because of the skills that he brings in,

2063
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 3: because of the pedigree, what he's accomplished in the division,

2064
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 3: and the fact that he's exciting to watch. You know,

2065
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 3: he's showing that he has multiple ways to win. He

2066
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 3: can switch things up, he can use strategy to win fights,

2067
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 3: and I think that was the difference here, the timing

2068
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 3: of his takedowns taking advantage of the opportunity on the

2069
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 3: ground against Cody Garbrandt, and Cody was looking pretty good

2070
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: early on, but I think the takedowns and specifically the

2071
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 3: threat of the takedowns, similar to maybe the Turner fight

2072
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 3: or the Cater fight.

2073
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: It tends to shut down your striking.

2074
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 3: If you don't have a lot of confidence with your

2075
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: takedown defense, it can shut down your striking, it to

2076
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 3: take you off rhythm.

2077
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Davison started to do to

2078
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:51,919
Speaker 1: Cody Garbrand.

2079
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 3: And we know about maybe some of the mental hiccups

2080
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 3: that Cody Garbrand can encounter during fights. You know, sometimes

2081
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 3: he loses some of that emotional stability during fights and

2082
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: make some poor decisions. And you know, Davison had great

2083
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 3: timing on that entry, was able to take the back

2084
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 3: of Cody Garbren and ended up getting it done. And

2085
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, Cody's vulnerability has been if he does end

2086
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 3: up in bad positions on the ground on his back,

2087
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 3: that's gonna, you know, be an effect on any fighter.

2088
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for any fighter to deal with.

2089
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 3: But when you have someone as sharp and as experience

2090
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 3: as Davison Figuredo who's been there with tough guys and

2091
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 3: five round fights, and the fact that he is very

2092
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 3: durable and pretty emotionally stable in the fights, I think

2093
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 3: that was the difference, and it was a big, big

2094
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: win for him, and I expect him to do big things.

2095
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be surprised to see him fight for the belt

2096
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 3: at some point, but there is a big line leading

2097
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: to that belt at one hundred and thirty five pounds

2098
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 3: right now, dude?

2099
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 6: All right, A few quick questions on UFC three hundred

2100
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 6: on the way out factor fiction. Joan way Lee's next

2101
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 6: title defense will come against Tatiana Suarez, who has competed

2102
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 6: at flyweight but is now of course back to one

2103
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 6: hundred and fifteen pounds.

2104
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: What do we think? I think that makes a lot

2105
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: of sense.

2106
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So, bon Nickel Kamzat Chimayev, right now, do

2107
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 6: you favor Kamzat Chimayev in a matchup with Bnickel given

2108
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 6: the MMA experience, dream matchup for a lot of fight fans,

2109
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 6: bon Nickel Kamza Chimayev.

2110
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 5: But sitting here April fifteen, twenty twenty four, who do

2111
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 5: you like?

2112
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 3: I like the matchup for Bonnickel based on skills, but

2113
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 3: right now because of experience, yeah, I'd be leaning towards

2114
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: Tomzad right now.

2115
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 6: In terms of ranking Max Holloway's knockout all time. Our

2116
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 6: good friend Joaquin Buckley knw Mansa against Impuk hasang Gan.

2117
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 6: I aesthetically, I'm not sure you have a Kneater knockout

2118
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 6: for me. I would put Edson Barboza against Terry Edam. Actually,

2119
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 6: aesthetically a notch above that. I thought there was like

2120
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 6: some attack happening on that arena in Rio de Janeiro.

2121
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 6: But I do think this greatest knockout of all time. Conversation.

2122
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 6: Kenny oftentimes focuses on fights in which there are championship stakes.

2123
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give you three and you tell me

2124
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 6: which one does it for you. Leon Edwards against Kamara Usman.

2125
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 6: I'll give you four, Leon Edwards against Kamara Usman, Connor

2126
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 6: McGregor against Jose Aldo. Gosh, I could really open this

2127
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 6: thing up. No, I'll go Leon Edwards against Kamara Usman,

2128
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 6: Conor McGregor and gave to Jose Aldo, Anderson silver against

2129
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 6: vtor Bell for Max Hollowey against Justin against.

2130
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 4: Man.

2131
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 3: Out of all of those, I would probably be leaning

2132
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 3: towards the Connor McGregor knockout of Jose Aldo. Jose Aldo

2133
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 3: at the time was easily recognized as the number one

2134
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 3: pound fer pound fighter on the planet. Connor knocked him

2135
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: out in about thirteen seconds. Everyone's jaw dropped the stakes.

2136
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 3: Everything Connor was saying to build up that fight and

2137
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to go out there

2138
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: and actually get it done in that fashion was something

2139
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 3: absolutely spectacular. Uh, John is going back to his backup

2140
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 3: to get sound, But that was one of those moments

2141
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are never going to forget. However,

2142
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: the way it went down with Max Holloway really just

2143
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 3: putting on a clinic against Justin Gaetgchee and then ultimately

2144
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 3: getting that knockout by pointing at the canvas and trading

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Speaker 3: with one of the most dangerous guys in that division

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Speaker 3: and putting him out face first into the canvas. That is,

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Speaker 3: without a doubt, top three, top five knockouts in UFC history.

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Speaker 1: Just unreal.

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Speaker 6: All right, So we're live right now. My studio just

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Speaker 6: went down. We got the backup setup rolling. Can you

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Speaker 6: hear me, Ken Flow?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I mean this is what we do.

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Speaker 6: So today's show has been so enjoyable that I'm inclined

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Speaker 6: to go live every Monday and Wednesday, which I think

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Speaker 6: would be very exciting for our listenership to not have

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Speaker 6: to wait for the show later in the day. But

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Speaker 6: you know, sometimes when you got a brand new studio,

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Speaker 6: you want to use it. But the fancy studio failed me.

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Speaker 6: So we have backup set up ready to go here live.

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Speaker 6: All right, So last one from me before we get

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Speaker 6: to Connor and Chandler. In terms of you ranking UFC

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Speaker 6: three hundred all time you were with me there on

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Speaker 6: the ESPN set for MMA Live at UFC one hundred,

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Speaker 6: you have called a lot of big events dating to

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Speaker 6: UFC eighty three. For me, I'm not sure that any

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Speaker 6: event singularly would top UFC two twenty nine, but UFC

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Speaker 6: three hundred is close. We were talking off the air

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Speaker 6: Isla Makashev an Alexander Volkanowski in Perth, Western Australia felt

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Speaker 6: absolutely enormous. But and I have actually a visual here

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Speaker 6: UFC two seventeen right in New York City, the night

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Speaker 6: upon which three belts changed hands George san Pierre against

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Speaker 6: Michael Bisping, Roseenam a Unis against Yannie and J.

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Speaker 1: TJ. Dillashaw against Cody Garbritt.

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Speaker 6: Some people might say UFC two oh five for me,

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Speaker 6: it's either UFC three hundred UFC two twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: Where does this one rank all time for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say overall, top to bottom, first fight

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Speaker 1: to the last five. I would say probably the best

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Speaker 1: of all time. But is it the best main card?

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: It's up there, but as far as you know it

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Speaker 3: being the best main card probably not. Two twenty nine

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Speaker 3: is one of those that really stand out to me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that overall it really did deliver.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of hype behind this. Every single

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Speaker 3: fighter fought their ass off and it was an amazing

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Speaker 3: and amazing bet all.

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Speaker 6: Right, anakin floor in podcast poll question. Now that we

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Speaker 6: know the weight class one hundred and seventy pounds, and

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Speaker 6: we know the date for Michael Chandler versus Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 6: June twenty ninth, UFC three TOZHO three, who wins the fight?

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Speaker 6: Connor McGregor's the betting favorite right now, Kenny allbe it

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Speaker 6: slightly minus one twenty Michael Chandler the even money underdog

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Speaker 6: plus one hundred fifty seven percent of respondents like the

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Speaker 6: slight underdog.

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Speaker 1: Michael Chandler.

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Speaker 6: I know you were not expecting to be making a

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Speaker 6: prediction on this fight today, but I don't much care.

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor Michael Chandler June twenty ninth, Who do you like?

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Speaker 3: I think Connor is the better fighter. I think he's

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Speaker 3: got more skills. I think he has more ways to

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Speaker 3: win than Michael Chandler does. However, you know, Connor McGregor

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Speaker 3: has so much going on. How much energy has he

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Speaker 3: put into training for this?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm what am I going off of social

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Speaker 3: media and all this stuff like it, It's hard to

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Speaker 3: really know. But right now and maybe be leaning towards Chandler,

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Speaker 3: but I want to see more. I want to see footage.

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Speaker 3: I want to see that Connor is focused training. I

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Speaker 3: want to see him saying the right things.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Chandler is gonna show up, you know, and sometimes he

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Speaker 3: brings too much chaos and recklessness into the octagon, but

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Speaker 3: you know he's gonna train hard and be ready. So

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Speaker 3: with Connor, I'm not so sure. But skill wise, man,

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Speaker 3: he is so talented. But I'm excited for that fight. Man,

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Speaker 3: that that's gonna be That's gonna be pretty special as well.

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Speaker 6: And then Islam Maikashev in defense of his title against

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Speaker 6: Dustin Poorier at UFC three to zero two. I think

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Speaker 6: an interesting time for Poorier with confidence riding so very

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Speaker 6: high to be getting this Islami kas Chev fight.

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Speaker 1: The gate Chi.

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Speaker 6: Results, of course, was good for Poorier's case. What do

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Speaker 6: you make of Dustin's chances here against the thus far

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Speaker 6: nearly perfect Islami Kashev.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be extremely difficult for him to beat

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Speaker 1: mahas Chef.

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Speaker 3: You know, again, just based on his last fight against

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Speaker 3: another grappler, no question for me that he'll be the

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Speaker 3: more dangerous guy in the feat. You know, if someone

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Speaker 3: gets the knockout, perhaps it's Dustin Pori against Islam mahas Chef,

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Speaker 3: and Islam has definitely been improving his striking skills. I

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Speaker 3: like it there, But Islam is going to have the

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Speaker 3: ability to take this fight where he wants Where does

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Speaker 3: he want it on the ground, That's where he's going

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Speaker 3: to take advantage of be able to move and outposition

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Speaker 3: Poorier perhaps for eventual TKO or submission. So I like

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Speaker 3: Mahashev's chances as of right now.

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Speaker 6: All right, thank you all for indulging us for this

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Speaker 6: extended live UFC three hundred recap. I did just want

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Speaker 6: to say in closing at this live event, we acknowledged

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Speaker 6: Chail Sonen and Anderson Silva their fight from twenty ten

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Speaker 6: for the middleweight title will be inducted into the UFC

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame as part of our induction class of

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. So Silva versus son and one going

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Speaker 6: into the UFC Hall of Fame. And I just want

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Speaker 6: to say, as somebody who has hosted this UFC Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame induction ceremony for a long time, we use

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Speaker 6: these wings as conduits to get certain people into the

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. Not to suggest that our Hall of

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Speaker 6: Fame is perfect, right, but Chail son and has been

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Speaker 6: a major contributor to mixed martial arts and I'm really

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Speaker 6: happy for him to get this type of acknowledgment. He

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Speaker 6: has brought a ton to the sport. He nearly realized

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Speaker 6: the world championship at middleweight that he so badly wanted

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Speaker 6: to produce for his late father. He was unable to

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Speaker 6: do that, but he's continued to deliver, you know, as

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Speaker 6: my colleague on the TV side, and I just think

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Speaker 6: he's brought a lot of eyeballs to mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 6: So you know, even though he was absolutely filthy, maybe

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Speaker 6: the night upon which he fought my good friend Brian Stan.

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Speaker 6: You know, I hope Chaal will understand that, you know,

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Speaker 6: this fight wing is used as a conduit to get

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Speaker 6: to serving people into the Hall of Fame, and I

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Speaker 6: hope that chill Son and will in that consider himself

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Speaker 6: a UFC Hall of Famer. All right, we got to

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Speaker 6: April twenty seventh. With that for Ken Flow, I'm John Anna.

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