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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shuler. Matt Williamson here with plenty to

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Speaker 2: discuss on a Thursday afternoon. But Matt, before we do that,

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Speaker 2: we had a rousing reception to our brief five minute

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Speaker 2: Halloween candy conversation on the show yesterday, and you for

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Speaker 2: those watching on YouTube, I'm holding it.

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Speaker 3: Up here right now.

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Speaker 2: Brought in some Nerds gummy clusters. We're available for sponsorship,

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Speaker 2: by the way, so great by you. You've never had

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Speaker 2: one of these. Let's get right into it here.

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Speaker 4: In the same Halloween I could pick up stuff at

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Speaker 4: CV yesterday and I'm walking down and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'll be going out of the cab the Alan try

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Speaker 4: to see if these things really exist. So they're little,

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Speaker 4: and I thought that gonna be like big, like.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and no, they're almost like like the size of

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Speaker 2: like a stick of gum or something, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like a little little piece of orbit gum

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Speaker 2: or something like that.

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Speaker 4: These are rainbow. There's only one flavor. Is there a

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Speaker 4: variety there's two.

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Speaker 2: There's rainbow and there's mixed berry. I think I like

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Speaker 2: Burry a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: But I'm doing Hey cheers TV for you. Yeah, all

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Speaker 4: the equipment listen.

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Speaker 2: If you're somebody who normally watches in podcasts for you

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Speaker 2: gotta at least uh, at least watch the start of

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Speaker 2: this one here.

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Speaker 3: Not too bad. How what are your thoughts they get

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Speaker 3: right away?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 3: You get the crunch, but the softness at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Are you chewing or are you letting it just mellow.

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Speaker 3: A little bit. I kind of take like one chomp

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Speaker 3: and then flying mellow.

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Speaker 2: And you know what it reminds me of is like

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Speaker 2: a good loaf of like French bag at bread, crunchy

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Speaker 2: on the outside, soft on the inside.

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Speaker 3: TV's lapping at me over there.

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Speaker 4: Chewing changes everything everything.

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Speaker 2: I see the allure you not not too shabby, right, Well,

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Speaker 2: that'll do it for our food Nation, our candy Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio segment of the day more next break, probably have

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Speaker 2: plenty of those. During break, too bad, we got labs

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Speaker 2: on the phone and not in studio. We could have

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Speaker 2: gotten labs.

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Speaker 3: Take here.

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Speaker 2: He will join us in the first hour here on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday as always, Matt, we have got not bad.

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Speaker 2: I really like those a lot, and I'm sure, like

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Speaker 2: I was telling you, you have a bag next of

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Speaker 2: those next to you and you're watching the gaming or

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Speaker 2: you're watching a movie or something. The next thing you're

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Speaker 2: reaching down and you're like, oh, they're all gone. You

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Speaker 2: know those went, Those went real quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes berry sounds attractive to definitely my choice.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to have to switch it up to there's

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Speaker 2: still maybe I'll bring you a bag of mixed berry

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Speaker 2: in uh here in the in the next day or so.

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Speaker 3: But we have got plenty to get into.

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Speaker 2: Other than some Halloween some Halloween candy taste testing here

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Speaker 2: in our studios today, Matt, let's jump right into Matt's Stats.

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Speaker 2: It's this is typically where we begin and dive in

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Speaker 4: I got a quick Matt's Stats story that happened two

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Speaker 4: minutes ago. So again, I was down at the facility

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Speaker 4: of the day. Every every Thursday, Missy Rob and I

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Speaker 4: do a video and actually a couple of people down

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Speaker 4: there were enjoying our candy segment, and so I brought

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Speaker 4: up this these gummy nerds and Missy's like my kids

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Speaker 4: love them. They're they're the favorite thing ever. And for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason, Rob was talking whining. Actually yeah, yeah, big

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Speaker 4: celebrity whining about his printer issues and he's and as

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Speaker 4: I was getting coffee right now, I get a text

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Speaker 4: from Rob saying, all kinds of going on. That's why

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Speaker 4: my alarm to order dinner. Geez. Lots going on in

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Speaker 4: this segment. Not the typical opening of the drive anyways.

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Speaker 3: Matt's stats, let's go. Of course, I love it. I

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Speaker 3: love it. Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: There are there are some who are privy to this information,

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Speaker 2: although now it's it's all on Steelers dot com as

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Speaker 2: well too for those who who want to read it themselves,

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Speaker 2: follow along, take notes, whatever the case may be. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: I want to start here with you. It was the

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Speaker 2: kind of your stat that I teased at the end

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Speaker 2: the Steelers defense and how you can kind of slice

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Speaker 2: it two ways. You can look at this as encouraging

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Speaker 2: or as concerning. And here's what it is. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: defense points allowed by quarter three point seven in the

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Speaker 2: first quarter. That is twelfth best in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good, pretty good, little above average.

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Speaker 4: That might surprise people. That's slightly above average.

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Speaker 2: Second quarter five point seven points allowed. That's tenth best

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Speaker 4: Getting better, getting better. I mean that's definitely above average.

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Speaker 2: Top ten third quarter points in the league. Three point nine.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't sound bad.

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Speaker 3: Best in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: It's a problem.

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Speaker 3: That's really good.

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Speaker 4: Top three quarters, you're well above average.

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Speaker 2: Matt, well above average, well above average Matt. The fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: they are dead last, thirty second out of thirty two

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Speaker 2: teams in the NFL, allowing an average of eleven point

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think there's twenty eight that are below ten.

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Speaker 4: So this is kind of a distant last. Yes, And

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Speaker 4: to sum it up, forty seven percent of their points

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for that quarter, it's not good.

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Speaker 4: and sports Chasers wrote back, seems like that's that seems

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Speaker 4: like a well defined problem, And I'm like, that's a

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Speaker 4: a problem. We know the points allowed period is a problem.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, well I let up too many points.

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Speaker 3: I hear all your symptoms, but what's our diagnosis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well well your brother pressures do hi you? You know?

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Speaker 4: But whatever, So how can you alleviate that? I think

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Speaker 4: watching every game, and just if you told me about

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Speaker 4: same thing. Sure, immediately, I would say fatigue. Playing sixty

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Speaker 4: minutes and four quarters of football's really hard. But to

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Speaker 4: take it up a level with the Steelers, we know

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Speaker 4: they're not young on that side of the ball. I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't say that they're riddled with injuries and super lean

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Speaker 4: So from that perspective, I think you have to look

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Speaker 4: we help our ailing defense. We need to sustain the

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Speaker 4: run the ball maybe a little bit more. That doesn't

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Speaker 4: this isn't uncommon in the league. That's an extreme, extreme case,

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Speaker 3: Is a ball asking to win, We saw them.

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Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger, no question. How many times the Ravens would

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Speaker 2: be frustrating the Steelers and then in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: gotta have it. Here comes Ben Santonio or ab right

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Speaker 2: and they find a way to score when they have to.

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Speaker 4: And clutch is certainly a real thing. Like people have

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Speaker 4: written articles in football, clutch doesn't matter, of course, it matters,

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Speaker 4: absolutely does, but it also is smart quarterbacks coordinators figure

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Speaker 4: exactly right, you know. So it's true for Rogers' career

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Speaker 4: and as a Steeler, I mean, like, fourth quarters harder

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Speaker 4: You know, you're coming off the ball, your reactionary position.

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Speaker 4: But in this case it's so extreme. I think you

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Speaker 4: whatever you can to remedy that. And kind of what

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they're the seventy six Steelers through

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Speaker 4: three quarters. We've all watched the games. But these numbers

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Speaker 4: I think are massively reflective on your diagnotion. I can

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Speaker 4: live with the first three quarter. There's more than we'll

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Speaker 4: to succeed. So I was kind of happy to see this.

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Speaker 4: To me, this is better than a weird way.

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Speaker 3: It is kind of comforting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's better than being twenty fifth, twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 3: You're wondering for the wandering through the wilderness, like looking

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Speaker 3: for a roadmap. Here it's laid out right.

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Speaker 5: Now, it is.

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Speaker 4: Here's your problem, right, you know. I mean I went

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Speaker 4: it's because this certain tendon isn't working. Okay, well how

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Speaker 5: All? Right? Now?

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Speaker 4: We can figure it out from that.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to amputate your leg right right, right,

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Speaker 4: It's just one issue. Now, Am I trying to blow

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Speaker 4: smoke that all of a sudden, Steel d is going

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Speaker 4: to be great?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't even know if they're aware of this,

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Speaker 4: you know, but I'm sure they are. But to me,

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Speaker 4: that was kind of very enlightening but also kind of encouraging.

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Speaker 4: You know, how can we lighten the load on Hayward

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Speaker 4: Watt Ramsey Sleigh late in the game. Maybe you have

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Speaker 4: Maybe you have to do a fake punt once in

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Speaker 4: a while to steal a possession. You know, have your

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Speaker 4: offense help the defense, because the last eight years or whatever,

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Speaker 4: it's always been the.

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Speaker 2: Opposite correct, And I know anytime we have a conversation

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Speaker 3: They're doing their jobs.

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Speaker 4: Possessions, right, like complimentary football.

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Speaker 2: And so while the offense has without a doubt been

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Speaker 2: Dive more into some of these Matt's stats will do

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be in a delightful mood today.

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Speaker 2: Probably he needs some he needs some gummy clusters to

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday, nice and sugared up, all full of candy,

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Speaker 2: getting ready for Halloween here, Matt, I want to continue

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Speaker 2: talking some stats, talking these Indianapolis Colts with you. Seven

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Speaker 4: Then they cause them and they don't turn them over.

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Speaker 2: They only have four giveaways, better than everybody but the

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I wanted to go on that.

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Speaker 2: Part of that has been more because how successful they've

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they score quay, sometimes they score quick.

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Speaker 2: But like for example, last week against a bad Titans team,

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Speaker 2: And that's how you win, as you're the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: No doubt, tied with the Colts first, second most and

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Speaker 2: Know, horseshoes and hand grenades. Absolutely, Colts plus fourteen sack

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's one of our big indicators.

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Speaker 2: that really worries me is this is another kind of

439
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: ongoing theme thing that you and I have discussed. Steelers

440
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: now negative twenty one and explosive play differential Sunday night

441
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: against the Packers certainly did not help in that department.

442
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I don't know where that ranks in

443
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: the league. It can't be high off the I mean,

444
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 4: it's here to the bottom obviously. I mean, because half

445
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 4: of the league's gonna be above zero and have some

446
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 4: be below. But I just keep I just keep a

447
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: spreadsheet in Italian myself, the old school way, and you know,

448
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 4: I look at each game. But it has to be

449
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the league.

450
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 3: It has to be.

451
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: It has to be the turner differentials. Okay, uh, you know,

452
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 4: big picture, Yeah, sack differential is good, good, but big

453
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 4: play differentials real bad.

454
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Speaker 3: All right, man?

455
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: How about for something encouraging from a Steelers department.

456
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is more than people think.

457
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: By the way, the Colts allow at least one first

458
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: down per opponent possession nearly eighty percent of the time,

459
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: seventy nine point seven percent of the time. That's thirtieth

460
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: out of thirty two teams in the NFL.

461
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: Now, because that's what we're saying, they allow a bit

462
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: long sustaining drives bad news.

463
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: Though the Steelers are slightly worse.

464
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: They rank thirty first, just behind the It's it's seventy

465
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of the time. But Matt, that

466
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: to me again, in this whole ecosystem of you know,

467
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 2: everything works in concert in football, it's all complimentary football.

468
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: You know that term that we use all the time.

469
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: Who who can keep their defense off the field the least,

470
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: who can extend those drives? Who can who can put

471
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: together eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve play.

472
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 4: Drives convert on third down?

473
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Speaker 3: It feels like both offenses have a.

474
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 4: Fourth and short you go forward instead of like you know,

475
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: or you know, if it's sustain the drive.

476
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: If it's fourth and three at.

477
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Speaker 4: The midfield or whatever.

478
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: What even was it though on Sunday against the Packers

479
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: was fourth and three at the thirty two yard line.

480
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 3: I want to say, go to range. Yeah, you're going

481
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 3: for it in that regard this time you get.

482
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Speaker 4: Three more you know, time and possession of my defense,

483
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: thanks me. And they're fresher in the fourth quarter, you know.

484
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: But that's kind of one of those game within the game,

485
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: and we highlight a lot of the things that the

486
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: Colts do well, but this is this is an area

487
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: where both teams struggles and if you can have the

488
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: upper hand in that regard, that to me is a

489
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: real will be a real indicator, you know who. The

490
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: time of possession is always important, it is, but it

491
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: hasn't been again as we alluded to it times for

492
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: the Colts, like they had less than toys and blew

493
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: out the Titans. You need to keep that dynamic offense

494
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: off the field. And if you can't do it by

495
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: sacking Indianapolis Jones, if you can't do it by limiting

496
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor force and turnovers, limiting Tyler Warren splash plays,

497
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: then you have to do it with that Steelers offense.

498
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: It has to be we have to see six seven,

499
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: eight minute drives of eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve place.

500
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: So I'm close, But usually in an NFL game there's

501
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen total possessions. You know, some of them might

502
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: be a kneel down to in the half that's two

503
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: seconds whatever, say eight or nine each at the ten whatever. Yeah,

504
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: but if you could make it fifteen, well you got

505
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 4: a better shot, much better, you know what I mean. Huge,

506
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: And this isn't one for one, but I use this

507
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: example all the time too. Shortening the game against a

508
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: better opponent is always a good idea. If this was Mahomes,

509
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: if this was Allan, you want to do the exact

510
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 4: same thing to.

511
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: Wear out the shot.

512
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: If you're playing against Steph Curry and the Warriors wear

513
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: out that shot clock, you know what I mean?

514
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: This is what that's the example do I use all

515
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 4: the time, Like could I ever win a three point

516
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: contest against Steph Curry? Of course I can't, But if

517
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 4: the if the rules were the first one to make one,

518
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: I might. If it's first one to make a hundred,

519
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: I'll win zero out of a bazillion. But if it's

520
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: first one to make a three pointer, maybe he misses

521
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: and you make it, I might win. You know what

522
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: I mean, Just shorten the game.

523
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: I might win.

524
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Speaker 2: I mean still probably not used to have a chance, right,

525
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: And then Matt one thing that the Steelers did very well,

526
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: uh early in the season, but haven't done well lately.

527
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Is reaching the red zone just one time against the Packers.

528
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: We discussed that on Monday.

529
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 4: Three snaps against the Packers in the red zone only

530
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: talling in that high red zone area. That's a day.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in that thirty to fifty yard range.

532
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: Only twenty two percent of Steelers drives have reached the

533
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: red zone this season. That is fifth lowest in the

534
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: National Football League twenty seven out of thirty two teams.

535
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: Only four offenses work sorry, twenty eighth out of thirty

536
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: two teams.

537
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we're convinced. You brought this up with

538
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 4: them summer that they are better in the red zone.

539
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 4: They used to just be bad in the red zone

540
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: with Duck.

541
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: And they've been much better. There's one point early on

542
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 2: in this they were like seven of eight in.

543
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: The red zone in the.

544
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: First couple of games.

545
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, now they're just like getting there enough.

546
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing to me. And that's another one

547
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: of those if you're at the thirty yard line and it's.

548
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 4: Fourth and short to go for it, maybe.

549
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: You got to be a little bit aggressive.

550
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: But that to me, they did a solid job, particularly

551
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: in the first half, not as much in the second half,

552
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: but they did a solid job of moving the football

553
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: against a good Packers defense.

554
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: It's a lot of field goals, just a lot of

555
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: field goals.

556
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: And it wasn't, you know, it wasn't twenty three yard

557
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: chip shot field goals. Thirty one yard field goals. They

558
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: have got to find a way to get one more

559
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: first down and get into the red zone exactly, you know,

560
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: because once they've gotten into that area with Aaron Rodgers,

561
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers game brain, with the size advantage they

562
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: have with guys like Metcalf and Washington, they've been able

563
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: to create some matchup air, some matchup problems when they

564
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: get down into that shrunken field space.

565
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 4: And unlike other years, they're throwing the ball across the

566
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: goal line as opposed to running the ball across usual

567
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: to be give it a nausey three times and pound

568
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: away and hope for the best.

569
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely well said. But yeah, that number to me

570
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: was kind of glaring when you consider that they've been

571
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: successful in the red zone, but only twenty two percent

572
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: of their drives, less than one out of four are

573
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: getting to the red zone.

574
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: And if you're not playing it run enough plays to

575
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: begin with, and they're not enough of a red zone plays,

576
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: just a double whammie.

577
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: Right, just under fifty five plays per game for the

578
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: Steelers offense. That's thirty first out of thirty two teams

579
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

580
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: That all gets back to time possession and you know,

581
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: getting the defense off field and beating Steph Curry to

582
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: one as opposed to a thousand, you know what I mean?

583
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: Right again, this isn't rocket sigence the diagnosis or as

584
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: clear as can be. Yeah, yeah, I mean the X

585
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: ray machine is up on the board, right, and you're

586
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: standing there with the doctor and you got this issue

587
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: and that issue, and I think.

588
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: We're doing some good doctor stuff here. Now. Now the

589
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: patient has to go execute it and you and I

590
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: can't do that, that's for sure.

591
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: But you said you don't have much of a financial background.

592
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: What's your medical background?

593
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: Look like?

594
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: There worse, doctor, worse.

595
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: As opposed to you know, the Indianapolis Colts leading the

596
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: league thirty three point eight points per game they average,

597
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: This is nuts four forty two point three yards per drive,

598
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 2: zero point four touchdowns per drive or draft, which is

599
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: just kind of it's crazy impressive. Again, it's for what

600
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: their offense is doing, not being, you know, not the

601
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: greatest show on turf or anything like that.

602
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: It is it is.

603
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: It's almost an offense. It really is.

604
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: And good way to put it.

605
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: I've been pumping this up lately because I'm new to

606
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 4: it this year. But the j T. O. Sullivan quarterback

607
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: school that he does, he broke down some of them

608
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: are you have to pay for some of you don't.

609
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: If you do every snap, you have to pay for him.

610
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: Some of them just does like briefs and he did

611
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, So that came out yesterday. I think I

612
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: threw it on Twitter just to help him pump it up,

613
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: and I thought some of the fans would like it.

614
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: But it's pretty impressive. It's not oh this guy's getting

615
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: lucky the bust from the Giants. He's making serious throw

616
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: and he's throlling with anticipation and he's fitting the scheme

617
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: and much like Darnold and Baker when they got to

618
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: the right place, he's playing really good football on his level, not.

619
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh we got a doubt, Yeah he is. That's that's

620
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: a great say he is. He is in the right place.

621
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: It's not going to give him.

622
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: Sixty million in the off season to be their starter.

623
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, exactly right.

624
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: And but hey, last thing here before we go to break,

625
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: get to our buddy about Bob Labriola. You know you

626
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: said this, A lot of people said this last week.

627
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: You know, never underestimate a professional athlete that's been embarrassed.

628
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: It's Madge's Maridge.

629
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: You and Pursuda and Labs. And I heard dou Lax

630
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: say it in the pregame show as well too. Steelers

631
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 2: defense allowed over four hundred and fifty yards of offense

632
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: and back to back games for just the second time

633
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: in franchise history. That's like a ninety year history of

634
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: the Strigler.

635
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if they were charting it in thirty eight,

636
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: but yeah, probably nobody was putting up then.

637
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: Anybody if you were putting up that kind of offensive.

638
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: But even if it's in the Super Bowl era, long time.

639
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: Crazy, A long time I would. It's a man, it's

640
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: a tough spot.

641
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: But if you can respond and you can perform against

642
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: this offense, you can you can carry that forward for

643
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: the back half of the season.

644
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: That's the thing. I mean, Yeah, this looks bleak, and

645
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: I expect Colts to put a ton of points. But

646
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: it's also an opportunity, you know, like maybe you step

647
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: up and you slay the dragon, and all of a

648
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: sudden Monday we're like, oh, I remember this defense, you know, yeah,

649
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: that that happens in this league.

650
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely the right story, yet, absolutely does That's a great

651
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: call by you. We will make a call to our

652
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: buddy Bob Labriola when we return, we'll catch up with Labs,

653
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: get all his thoughts on the loss of the Packers,

654
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: the upcoming challenge of the team with the best record

655
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, the seven to one Indianapolis Colts.

656
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: You think we're gonna ask Labs about his favorite Halloween

657
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: candy or will he shoot me away? I don't know

658
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Speaker 2: if that's his bags. Maybe I'll maybe I'll ask him.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll ask him Sunday before the pregame.

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Speaker 4: Shows across as that guy that turns his lights off,

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Speaker 4: yes when you come, or at best leaves the light

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Speaker 4: on with the bucket of candy, take one and.

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Speaker 3: Handy is he giving out like like apples?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe somebody needs to give us ten pennies wrapped

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Speaker 4: up in aluminum foil. Throw these at your.

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Speaker 2: House, use these to buy some eggs right right right

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Speaker 2: TP or tree out front.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to Bob labry.

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Speaker 4: And he watches if you take two yells at you.

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Speaker 2: Like a ring camera and comes on. It's like the

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Speaker 2: voice of God. One piece of candy per child, Bob Labriola.

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Speaker 2: When we return on the other side, it is the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday afternoon, it's time to go to the phone

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Speaker 2: lines and catch up with the historian, Bob Labriola himself. Folks,

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Speaker 2: it is Halloween, but every single week of the year

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Speaker 2: he is the Dean of Doom, the Lord of living

681
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: in his fears labs. How we feel in today? The

682
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: Steelers have pretty quickly gone from four and one in

683
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: the driver's seat feeling good to two straight losses now

684
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: maybe gripping that steering wheel a little bit tighter and

685
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 2: without much room to spare. As the team with the

686
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Speaker 2: best record in the NFL heads to Akerschure Stadium this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's some Dean of Doom stuff. Every week, the

688
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: NFL sends up, you know, a stat package, and on

689
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Speaker 5: the last page of the stats package are team rankings

690
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: in seventeen offensive and seventeen defensive categories. In the seventeen

691
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Speaker 5: offensive categories, the Indianapolis Colts rank in the top six

692
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Speaker 5: in sixteen of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm not shocked. Pretty good, So there you go.

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Speaker 5: If you watched the previous two games Steelers games, I

695
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: think that's a fairly ominous I don't know, undertaking.

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Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, well, I got a positive question for him,

697
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: the kicker aside, I think we're all pretty happy with him.

698
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: What is the quarterback? What you trust the most to

699
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: play well week after week? Right now?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I don't, you know,

701
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: all due respect, I mean I don't think it's close.

702
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: And I say that because of how good I think

703
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has been more than you know what the

704
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 5: other guys have not. You know, I I really don't

705
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 5: see what else, what more you could be asking from him?

706
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: You know, that's that's realistic. Just you know, his completion

707
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: percentage is high, a touchdown to interception ratio. He doesn't

708
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: take stupid secks, he doesn't run himself into sacks. You know,

709
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 5: he's he understands the principle of getting rid of the

710
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: ball taking the incomplete pass. You know, he doesn't do

711
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Speaker 5: that Kenny Pickett thing where he tries to spin out

712
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Speaker 5: and runs backwards and then gets then a you know,

713
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Speaker 5: six yard sack turns into a twelve yard set. He's

714
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 5: he's accurate and on time, and I you know, I

715
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Speaker 5: think that what we're seeing from Roman Wilson is a

716
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Speaker 5: good example of what Aaron Rodgers provides, you know, And

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Speaker 5: that would kind of be my message into the wide

718
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: receiver's room, which is this, your job is to get

719
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Speaker 5: open and catch the ball when it comes to you,

720
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Speaker 5: because he's gonna throw it to you if you are

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Speaker 5: in fact open, and if you catch it, then when

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Speaker 5: it comes to you, first of all, you won't be

723
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Speaker 5: embarrassed when to hit you in the face if you're

724
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Speaker 5: not paying attention. And the other thing is I think

725
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Speaker 5: that that will I have him coming back to you

726
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Speaker 5: more often. So you know, Aaron Rodgers is kind of

727
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 5: a I don't know his own version of a wide

728
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: receivers coach. You know, it's you know a lot of

729
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: times when when you were in school, you'd learn you

730
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Speaker 5: do some book learning, and then the teacher or a

731
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Speaker 5: professor or whatever might supplement it with some practical experience

732
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Speaker 5: or you know, practical applications. Well, Aaron Rodgers is the

733
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Speaker 5: practical application of everything as a wide receiver. You're learning

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Speaker 5: in the meeting room. So yeah, I to an that's

735
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 5: a long winded way for me to say to you, Matt. Yes,

736
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Speaker 5: he is the second best, and all due respect to Boswell,

737
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: who is just you know, money personified. Having a quarterback

738
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Speaker 5: at the at the height of his powers is more

739
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: significant to an NFL team than a kicker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them. That West I've been saying a

741
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Speaker 4: lot the last couple of weeks is Foo, thank you

742
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Speaker 4: for bos But I don't want him to be the

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Speaker 4: team MVP, right, Yeah, something's wrong if hev exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, this is something I've been doing.

745
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 5: You know, I first got the job with the Steelers

746
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: Steelers Digest in nineteen eighty eight, and part of the

747
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: you know, the plan all the way back then was

748
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: that the game coverage would include a would include me

749
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Speaker 5: picking the player of the week. Okay, and I think

750
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Speaker 5: I've picked the place kicker. Certainly fewer than five times

751
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Speaker 5: in all those years, all those games, and I've picked

752
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 5: Boswell twice already this year. Yeah, and I'm again saying

753
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: he doesn't doesn't deserve it, He's not great, all of that,

754
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: and none, I'm not saying any of that, but I

755
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 5: just you know, it's it's And again I remember angering

756
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: a few place kickers in Steelers' uniforms when in conversation

757
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: or on radio shows or whatever, I would say I

758
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: didn't think kickers belonged in the Hall of Fame. You know,

759
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that. Well, let's let me put it

760
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 5: this way. I'd vote for a kicker for the Hall

761
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: of Fame if there weren't any other real players, right right, right, exactly,

762
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Speaker 5: no matter what, no matter what position it is. Because

763
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Speaker 5: and then when people say, well, you know, special teams

764
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Speaker 5: is one third of the game, Okay, who's the who's

765
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Speaker 5: the holder that's going in the Hall of Fame? Then

766
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Speaker 5: I mean, if if this is all you know, you

767
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Speaker 5: want to cast this as equal, you know, Okay, who's

768
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Speaker 5: the best holder in NFL history.

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Speaker 4: Who's the best personal protector?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Christian?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So but anyway, uh, you know, that's kind of

772
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Speaker 5: as I said, Chris Boswell's you know, if if my

773
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Speaker 5: life was hanging in the balance on a made field

774
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Speaker 5: goal attempt, he's I pick, I don't care where it's from. Well,

775
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 5: but again, like you said, I don't want them to

776
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 5: be the MVP, right, that's not a good a good

777
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 5: four or a good indicator. That's the word. They want,

778
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 5: a good indicator for the football team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, Labs.

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Speaker 2: You know, kind of piggybacking off of what you said

781
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Speaker 2: about Aaron Rodgers. There the best game of Roman Wilson's

782
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: career by far, scores his first touchdown. You know, you

783
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: brought us that stat about how highly ranked the Colts

784
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: are in a lot of categories. Matt and I spent

785
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Speaker 2: the start of the show going through some impressive numbers.

786
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Speaker 2: One area, though, where Indianapolis does not excel. One area

787
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Speaker 2: where the Colts have not covered themselves in glory this

788
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Speaker 2: year is their past defense twenty ninth out of thirty

789
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Speaker 2: two teams, giving up over two hundred and fifty yards

790
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Speaker 2: in the air on average per game. Does this feel

791
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Speaker 2: like a big opportunity for Aaron Rodgers now with obvious

792
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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf doing what he's doing, Calvin Austin back in

793
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Speaker 2: the fold and being able to knock that rust off

794
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: on Sunday night and Roman Wilson his usage, his confidence

795
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: at an all time high. Is there some some hope

796
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Speaker 2: in your mind that we could see another one of

797
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Speaker 2: those vint? I mean I even hesitate to say vint

798
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Speaker 2: to Jaron Rodgers performance because that's like four hundred yards

799
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Speaker 2: and five touchdowns. But but a you know, one of

800
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Speaker 2: those Sundays where it looks like Aaron Rodgers is still

801
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Speaker 2: one of the best doing it and drives the bus

802
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Speaker 2: for this offense.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I all the scenarios, Sunday scenarios, as

804
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: I play them through my Dean of Doom mind, there

805
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Speaker 5: is not one of them where the Steelers win the

806
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Speaker 5: game by scoring fewer than thirty points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think I do not see that happening.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can do this game. That coach

810
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: this game like it's a rased to twenty. It's a

811
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Speaker 4: race to thirty or more.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, you know, the obviously, outscoring the opponent is

813
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: the object of every game you're ever in. But when

814
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: I say outscoring in this particular situation, I'm talking about

815
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 5: big numbers. I you know, thirty to me is the

816
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: bare minimum that I think it's going to take to

817
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Speaker 5: win the game. And whether that's all from offense, you know,

818
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 5: there could be special teams, who knows, I mean the defense.

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Speaker 5: If the defense gives up thirty but scores for you, you know.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's I would take that, right.

821
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I mean, you know, I've always said if

822
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Speaker 5: if I'm looking at a corner versus a receiver, if

823
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: the corner gives up eight catches but has an interception,

824
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you start, you know, mitigating some

825
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 5: of these things because a lot of times the impact

826
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Speaker 5: of a takeaway can be more than a lot of

827
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Speaker 5: the yards gained necessarily by some of the offensive plays.

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Speaker 4: So piggybacking off that deal, are you shocked that the

829
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Speaker 4: Steelers haven't gotten more defensive splash lately? Well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that that's that's really the

831
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Speaker 5: the whole was part of the reason that it was

832
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Speaker 5: built this way, with that with that hope, that expectation,

833
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 5: that goal of having more splash, and for.

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Speaker 4: The most part, they're really good at it, just not lately.

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Speaker 5: Well, right, And you know, so you're you're trying to

836
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: you know, I don't, I don't I didn't believe. You know,

837
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Speaker 5: I wasn't buying when they had five takeaways against New

838
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: England that hole they were lucky, because I don't think

839
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 5: takeaways are luck. I think it's you know, it's study,

840
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 5: it's planning, it's practice, and you also, I think have

841
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Speaker 5: to have a skill set assembled that is conducive to that.

842
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm surprised that it isn't hasn't produced more takeaways.

843
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: And really it's it's you know, as they as the

844
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: young kids say, it's mission critical that they start taking

845
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 5: the ball away again. The defense has to create splash.

846
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: It just does. I just there's it can't survive without

847
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: that in the consistent cases, right.

848
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Speaker 2: And that's tough to do against a colts team that

849
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: doesn't give up many sacks, doesn't turn the ball over

850
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: second or third fewest part of me turnovers in the

851
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: NFL this season, They've got a very good offensive line

852
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: that makes it more difficult to get after Daniel Jones

853
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: with that labs, are you willing to try any different

854
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: types of deployment in the secondary. That's something Matt and

855
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: I have spent some time on this week as well too.

856
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Moving Jalen Ramsey into more of a safety role using

857
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: more Brandon Echols is it? And I don't want to

858
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: say like time to push the panic button. But the

859
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: Steelers defense has also given up over four hundred and

860
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: fifty yards in back to back games for just the

861
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Speaker 2: second time in franchise history.

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Speaker 4: And the piggyback off it. If I'm shuying, if I'm

863
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: stiching right now, I'm going I'm not sure who their

864
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: safeties are going to be, but I'm attacking them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh the Steelers safeties. Yes, yeah, well I mean

866
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: that to me, that to me is pretty obvious when

867
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Speaker 5: you look at No Deshaun Elliott plus even when he

868
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 5: was playing some of the issues you were having at

869
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 5: that position. Uh, you know, I don't know about moving

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Speaker 5: guys around. I mean I don't. I don't. When I

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Speaker 5: say I don't know about it, and I'm not saying

872
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Speaker 5: I'm discounting it, I don't. I literally do not know.

873
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 5: But what I would like to see or hope that

874
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Speaker 5: they try is whatever they decide to do, it's something

875
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: that they can actually do it. You know. The the

876
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 5: sometimes I think it's too complicated football. They make it

877
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 5: too complicated. I would rather whatever the coverage is supposed

878
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: to be against the Colts on Sunday. I would like

879
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: everybody to know what it is for sure before the snap,

880
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: and then all they have to think about is executing

881
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 5: it because this, you know, how things change the snap

882
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 5: with a ball and a guy goes in motion or

883
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 5: how far does he go in motion and that changing

884
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 5: for this to that, and hey, forget all that stuff.

885
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 5: It's the busts, the plays that end with a couple

886
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 5: of guys like looking at each other like, well, what

887
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: were you doing? What did you see there? I mean

888
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: that needs to end. And let these guys because I

889
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: think a lot of them have pedigree, they have some

890
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 5: impressive resumes. Let them play, you know, just let them play.

891
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: And just because you know this, this group of in

892
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: the secondary was assembled with the idea of matching up

893
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 5: and playing man coverage. Okay, if that can't work, throw

894
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: it away right now. I mean, I don't I hate that.

895
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 5: I get into this argument with Mike Pursuit every now

896
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: and then. You know, he always wants to play more

897
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: man demand and he says, well, that's why they brought

898
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 5: those guys here. Well, yeah they did. But if it

899
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 5: doesn't work, I mean, I'm not going to continue. I

900
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: don't think it's you should feel the need to continue

901
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: to try to make that work. You know, play something else.

902
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 5: It can be something else, and it can be something

903
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: else if you get some pass rush.

904
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Speaker 4: You can't put your players in positions that they're not.

905
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 5: Good at right or again, and you know, they might

906
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: even be good at some of those positions if they

907
00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 5: knew what they were. I just I don't know. I

908
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 5: don't know anything. You know, I'm making a lot of

909
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: definitive statements here. I don't necessarily know that it's too complicated.

910
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 5: It just seems to me, you know, watching the games,

911
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: especially when you're there, and the body language and what

912
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 5: goes on after some of the plays, and when the

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 5: units come off the field, the reaction from the sideline,

914
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 5: the assistant coaches on the sideline. You know, it just

915
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: seems that there is too much quote unquote miscommunication. There is,

916
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 5: and I don't know why. And again I you know,

917
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: as I said, I don't know why. But at some point,

918
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: I think the best way to try and maybe stop

919
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: the bleeding with this group is simplify it and just

920
00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 5: you know, let them play and try and execute whatever

921
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: the coverage is to the best of your abilities. If

922
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: you get beat, you get beat and hope that your

923
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 5: front seven can start making some plays too to help

924
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 5: you out.

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00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

926
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: Easier, maybe easier said than done against this Colts offense,

927
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: but way.

928
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 5: Easier said than done, young fellow, Way easier said than done.

929
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 5: And I understand that one hundred percent.

930
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know the bright spot in that, though, Labs,

931
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: is if you can get it moving in the right

932
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: direction against these guys, you can you can do it

933
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Speaker 2: against pretty much anybody.

934
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Speaker 5: Well, let me throw this out there too, And you

935
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 5: know you're looking for silver linings. You know, you tried

936
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: to give me a good stat I'm going to try

937
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: and throw one back at you. We know from you know,

938
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 5: a covering the Steelers for years that there are certain

939
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 5: top teams at certain venues that historically give the Steelers problems. Well,

940
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: the Steelers in Pittsburgh historically give the Colts problems. You

941
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 5: can go back with. You know, even when that franchise

942
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: was in Baltimore, the Colts in Pittsburgh usually did not

943
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 5: end well for them, So who knows. I mean, this

944
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: is exactly, this is exactly the kind of NFL game

945
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: that you look at and say, there is no way

946
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Speaker 5: X is gonna be y and X exactly beats.

947
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Speaker 2: Why in that in that game, any given any given labs,

948
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Speaker 2: any given.

949
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Speaker 5: Sunday, yep, I mean, you know the Packers in the

950
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: Browns that wasn't a loss. But yeah, to me, it

951
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: was the Giants in the Eagles.

952
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, even the Jets and the Bengals this past Sunday.

953
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 5: Uh So there you go, just when you think it can't,

954
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Speaker 5: it does.

955
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Speaker 2: How about that the Lord of living in his fears,

956
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: the Dean of Doom with some professor of positivity to

957
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: get us out of here.

958
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: Only for you Ray of Sunshine, and I got it.

959
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 5: Okay. You know we were talking a lot about place

960
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 5: kickers and their significance and all that stuff. You don't

961
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 5: want the placekicker to be your MVP, either, one of you.

962
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: Two know the last time and a placekicker was voted

963
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: NFL MVP Mark Moseley. What's that?

964
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Speaker 4: Mark Moseley in the strike year?

965
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Speaker 5: Okay, the hell with you, William.

966
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Speaker 4: I was alive then that was ten or so.

967
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was but anyway.

968
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Speaker 4: Weird year though, I mean there was he was young.

969
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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of scabs, right, and he no.

970
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Speaker 5: No, the Scabs were in eighty seven.

971
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, eighty.

972
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Speaker 5: Two was the nine game season.

973
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Speaker 4: See I don't know that much. Here you go, yeah,

974
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Speaker 4: you still got anyway.

975
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Speaker 5: It was a.

976
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Speaker 4: Right, right, that's right, that's right.

977
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Speaker 3: The Great, the Great Bob Labriol.

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Speaker 2: To make sure you're checking out all his works Steelers

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Speaker 2: dot Com listening to him on the pregame show with

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Speaker 2: Jerry Dulac and Mike Persuda, beginning at eleven am on Sunday. Labs,

981
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Speaker 2: thank you for the time as always, and we'll see

982
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Speaker 2: this weekend. There he goes, the Dean of doom, the

983
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Speaker 2: lord of living in his fears, maybe the professor of positivity.

984
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Speaker 3: We'll see.

985
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Speaker 2: That's an hour in the books, another hour to go.

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Speaker 2: More Matt stats, some of your tweets as well too.

987
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Speaker 2: It's a Thursday. Let's get, let's get. Let's get on

988
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: the tweets as well too. If you've got questions, we've

989
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Speaker 2: hopefully got answers at wesle Yuler at Williamson, NFL.

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Speaker 3: Halfway Home. It's the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network